general-modding

[merry lotus]

one thing i'm planning is a motorcycle that you can't really drive as much as steer

when you get in, you move forward constantly and don't stop until you crash into something (you won't take damage)

[merry lotus]

nah i'm still not sure about it

maybe if it was in a more artsy art style instead of just a 3d render

[spare scarab]

Lmao I love it

[dire echo]

huh

[hazy sky]

i think it looks fine as is, i used a 3D render of the compass as well

can you show us a picture of the whole screen with this hud element though

[hazy sky]

okay im generally upset about ratchet games not having fucking mouse hooks

wish the best of luck to me chat i'm about to learn something new

[pure jackal]

[hazy sky]

could definitely see it working im just not good at C

probably found a few memory addresses that correspond to the camera's position

they're just either in radians (float) or 2 or 4 bytes

[hazy sky]

i fixed the tweens to the best of my capabilities

its so funny how i can set a destructible object's "drop" to an explosion and it will drop the explosion

like spawn an explosion instead of an item

[unique trellis]

The animations on the shells look really nice :0

[stiff thorn]

sounds like a perfect use-case for explosive barrels

[hazy sky]

thanks, it's almost simulating each with gravity but not really

[hazy sky]

they're not meant for that, but i'll keep this newfound knowledge in mind

that however means that the enemies can also drop explosions

what if you could pick up explosions

like pick up pistol but OOPS ITS EXPLOSION

BOOM TIME

this is so funny i have to test this shit

[stiff thorn]

honestly this sounds just full of possibilities XD

brutha struck gold

[hazy sky]

i cannot pick it up,,,

i've subconsciously made sure i cannot pick it up

unless i make a weapon that just exploded immediately

actually it works

if this wasn't a debug build, the breakpoint wouldn't interrupt and you'd just die

[stiff thorn]

see? it's perfect

[pure jackal]

What was that red text?

[merry lotus]

maybe it would look better with more UI elements?

[hazy sky]

it kinda covers the side more than it should

did you think about having a see through background for it instead?

[merry lotus]

yeah i could probably do that

[hazy sky]

or, make it a bit smaller

[merry lotus]

this was unintentional but i like how it looks with the blood in the background

[hazy sky]

it looks better now

it's not just a black background now

you could make a smearing effect on the path of the needle though like a screenwiper

wiping away the blood

[merry lotus]

do you mean like just a simple smear effect on the texture

because if so that would be easy to add

but if you mean like it wiping away the blood as it goes that would be a lot harder to do

[hazy sky]

i think it's cool with the smear effect

[hazy sky]

i think my game is haunted

[pure jackal]

You killed that "I made better in 12 hours no I wont show it" guy so hard he's haunting the game

[hazy sky]

he's gonna show me his game

whether I like it or not

[pale raft]

what are good godot templates for first person stuff

[merry lotus]

before/after

not that big a difference but

[pale raft]

i finally got something :D

https://cratercrash.com/orchestrator/ is this any good

[spare scarab]

definetly an improvement

[spare scarab]

oh visual scripting for godot? neat

[pale raft]

wowie

why is the video doin g that

a ancient halloween CURSE

[graceful shard]

Yo, I'm tryin to make a Detroit Zomboid Experence. but i donno if i should go with this mod or not? (and for reference , I don't mean zombie apocalypse detroit. Just, Detroit)
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3333779609&searchtext=

[pale raft]

its not on the little assetlib tab and when i import it its not showing up

this is truly glorpshit

it says it therre

[hazy sky]

you don't really need one but depends on what you want

quake/source movement with wishdir and acceleration/air acceleration or just a basic movement

[hazy sky]

how do you import it

usually you'd put it in the addons folder, go to project settings -> plugins and enable it there

but you really don't need a visual language when gdscript is so readable

you need to get used to the syntax and that's all, sometimes the code is as readable as the message I'm writing rn

[pale raft]

I just extracted and dragged and dropped it into a Addon folder I made in the bottom left

[azure flume]

Nice clouds very cool!

[azure flume]

they had an official implementation in earlier versions, but nobody used it so they got rid of it

[hazy sky]

enable it

[hazy sky]

legion of honor: germany on earth

[junior bluff]

practicing composition

[unique trellis]

Would it be better to work on a main menu screen first or just focus on making a test room? Pretty amateur at game dev but really interested at getting better at it.

[tranquil oracle]

Having a simple menu to start out with can be helpful and might push you into programming the game a bit better (because you need to think about "game state" sooner)

But it doesn't really matter that much ultimately

On the other hand, having any kind of UI makes it feel more "complete" which can help motivate you

[unique trellis]

Not much atm but I can turn it into something bigger in the future

[unique trellis]

Made this half assed menu for now. It's getting really late I should probably sleep for tonight and hopefully get more done.

[hazy sky]

first thing I did was create a developer room

and expanded it as I saw fit and needed more space

specifically needed it for movement testing, then added a firing range, some interactive stuff to implement the objective system, etc

the dev room grown so much onto me it's like home

[drowsy escarp]

Beta for my NMH Slot Machine Mod for Doom: https://www.mediafire.com/file/xmzocy54xdeejm2/DarkSideWheelBeta.pk3/file

[azure flume]

https://www.fab.com/megascans-free

17k megascans anyone?

[drowsy escarp]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/524686616816517120/1298354615053455440/Screenshot_Doom_20241022_113514.png?ex=67194276&is=6717f0f6&hm=3b822ff4db2ba266c6b14ef7e6c5e6aa500f09b199b28b3caf5ce1bae349cf4b&

[desert shard]

Finished a thriller game I was trying to make

https://badpiggy.itch.io/the-library

[pure jackal]

You missed the pun "HEIL ON EARTH" :[

[merry lotus]

switched from quake bsp to goldsrc bsp so I could get colored lighting and better texture quality but now i have to make a tough decision since skies work differently

do i switch back to quake bsp and deal with no colored lights and a limited color palette, switch to a different kind of skybox, or code a workaround that would only work for Dead End

there's also the evil option where i code my own level editor and compiler

[wraith beacon]

The based option of modular levels.

[merry lotus]

wdym

[pure jackal]

have levels be made up of building blocks instead of bsps, I think?

[merry lotus]

no I'd rather do bsp

it would be easier to set up a custom level editor with modular levels though...

maybe for another game

[wraith beacon]

Yea it'd probably require rolling your own level editor or uhhhhhhhhh, if you really wanted to be deranged using Blender as the level editor for placing instances and shit.

[pale raft]

I am placing blocks and shit cus I’m in fuckin blender

[unique trellis]

I've been trying to wrap this texture on a cube for half an hour at this point. Anyone know how I can do that? Couldn't find any good tutorials on how to do it.

[spare scarab]

in blender?

[unique trellis]

Unity

[spare scarab]

Like a default unity cube?

[merry lotus]

you can't do it around a default unity cube

you have to import a cube with custom uvs that are mapped to that texture using blender, probuilder, or some other tool

[spare scarab]

yea ^ this

[unique trellis]

Oh I see

Thanks

[spare scarab]

if you're gonna be tryin to add assets with textures and all that jazz blender is so worth learning

it'll be invaluable for so so many things

[unique trellis]

Yeah I wasn't sure if I needed blender to do that

[spare scarab]

if you intend to make a 3d game chances are either you're going to need blender or someone who knows blender lol
(other tools exist but it's just so nice and widespread in terms of public knowledge that it's hard not to recommend)

[unique trellis]

Blender is also something I'm learning too

I have only made 2 models but they're extremely amateur

This was was a sawed off I modeled off of a reference

[tranquil oracle]

You can get colored lighting with regular BSP via .lit files (it can also be embedded via BSPX)
Other good alternatives are BSP2 (Q1 bsp but all int16 -> int32) and Qbism BSP (basically BSP2 for Quake 2, has colored lighting support)

[unique trellis]

My friend helped make the movement, they reused the movement code from another game they were working on and just added jumping to it. They added these red cubes which was awesome, the blender model is just a test so I can learn how to import them into unity.

[manic raptor]

the movement seems very smooth and what are you gonna do next

[unique trellis]

Probably a kick or being able to pick up and throw objects.

or both

[unique trellis]

Little peak at the player prototype model I'm working on (He doesn't have a name yet but you're free to call him whatever)

[hazy sky]

reminds me of old roblox days

[limber bramble]

colored lights are too good to lose imo

[stiff thorn]

agreed, I'd say stick to goldsrc

[pure jackal]

The dastardly gestapo officer when the resistance member slides towards him with a 10 guage at 200 km/h

[hazy sky]

splat bonus

[waxen plover]

the sudden urge to make a cave exploration game

claustrophobia, my beloved

[pure jackal]

Whole bunch of jank placeholder animations coming to a legion near you

[merry lotus]

before / after

[unique trellis]

Decided to shade smooth it because it looked better that way. Now I have to rig it up and I should be good

[pale raft]

how did i already mess up crouching

[unique trellis]

Am I doing this right?

[unique trellis]

It sort of works??

[limber bramble]

Nice

Rigging is pretty cursed

Satisfying to get good results tho

[unique trellis]

Thanks

It is a prototype so improvements can be done

but it will do for now as a learning experince

[limber bramble]

I feel that

I've been doing some basic modeling and rigging lately and that's how I'm going about it

Just letting it be what it is and learning tricks as I go

[unique trellis]

It's nice actually learning something like blender

it feels like I'm doing something big

[limber bramble]

It's a pretty versatile and insanely powerful software tbh

Good skillset to have

[spare scarab]

blender is so, so good

you can keep learning it forever and discover new shit all the time

[unique trellis]

Little kick animation I did

[hazy sky]

colored lighting is very underrated, most of the time people use plain white lights in indie games and ask why everything looks bland and flat

[hazy sky]

show code

seems like the check to see if you're crouching is immediately set to false or something and instantly uncrouches you

[muted stirrup]

new pew pew

[hazy sky]

@earnest lily do you use blender to animate your goons?

[earnest lily]

whar

what else?

[hazy sky]

idk just asking

rn blender's animation interface looks like a fucking mess

[stiff thorn]

naaah it's very compact

at least for me

has just what I need and not too much else

[blissful arch]

if you're using the timeline window/panel try out the action editor, i find that one to be better

[pure jackal]

Dope sheet action editor

But no way to change the timeline time-frame wuthout changing back to timeline view

Throwback thursday

[hazy sky]

silent gun

[merry lotus]

is there a way to check for leaks in bsp maps

because i've been looking for leaks but haven't found any

[pure jackal]

Usually a leak will show up when compiling the map

[unique trellis]

The leg

Now I just have to make it a viewmodel and actually get it working as a kick function

[hazy sky]

I thought BSP won't compile with leaks at all

[pure jackal]

I mean it will make a bsp file but it won't be complete

[merry lotus]

leaks as in leaks in the map geometry

if there's a hole in the geometry somewhere then faces in the map that aren't supposed to be visible are visible

[hazy sky]

you're doing what

you don't do that vino

you see, when you call something in process or physics process, it gets called every frame/every physics frame

you're basically calling crouch every physics frame meaning it will uncrouch you and then crouch etc

[pale raft]

https://youtu.be/xIKErMgJ1Yk?si=KNDevgzR2JK-f9Bc i was trying to follow this

[hazy sky]

use func _input

also

[pale raft]

where do i put func _input

[hazy sky]

create a bool variable like var crouching : bool = false do you can keep track if the character is crouching or not and make checks

[hazy sky]

you already have it

it's above physics process

[pale raft]

ok

[hazy sky]

just move the if input action pressed thing into the func input

and the sprinting as well

AND, if you take my word, don't do an else check on that

the logic here goes: if the crouch button is pressed, crouch. if not however, sprint instead

you can just not call else

and modify that to if

[pale raft]

ok

[hazy sky]

that way the two checks are independent

AND, to make sure you can stand up, there is an Input.is_action_just_released function

it gets called when you release the button

you can revert the speed and height back to normal there

so psuedo code

func _input():
if input.action_pressed("crouch"):
crouch stuff
if input.action_released("crouch"):
reverse crouch stuff

I don't know if just_released or if it's released

hope that helps

[pale raft]

thanks

[hazy sky]

worked?

[pale raft]

im getting this

[earnest lily]

kino wtf

[pure jackal]

Ooooh dom if you only knew what I was cooking up last year

[earnest lily]

❤️

for a split second discord said "tomorrow at 00:00"

[unique trellis]

Pixel filter

[unique trellis]

So I have this shader material thing that gives a outline look to objects I put it on and it works perfectly

Except that it scales based on the size of things making it look too big on larger objects. I'm currently trying to find a fix for this so it can be displayed at a fixed size.

[merry lotus]

more before & after stuff

right now i'm just using point lights for sunlight

[tight light]

what mod is the custom style replacementa like the ones i've seen in Linguini's videos? (ultrakill)

[spare scarab]

Do you still need help?

Level compilers like ericw's tools output a point file which, for example, trenchbroom can load and point where the leak is

It will always know if theres a leak

[merry lotus]

I fixed it

I didn't know about the point file thing so I just placed a bunch of giant cubes to narrow down where the leak was

but I still couldn't find it so I just rebuilt the room where it was happening

[spare scarab]

Ah well now you know lol

[merry lotus]

I still have much to learn about trenchbroom & ericw tools
thanks vriska

[limber bramble]

mega improvements

[toxic hemlock]

how exactly is this outline working? does it make an inverted hull of the object?

[unique trellis]

I think so? I had to search up what inverted hull meant because I'm not familiar with any of this.

[toxic hemlock]

basically is it making a larger, inside-out version of the object to use as the outline?

[unique trellis]

Oh yeah it's doing that

It's all in a shader graph

[tight light]

what mod is the custom style replacementa like the ones i've seen in Linguini's videos? (ultrakill)

[unique trellis]

wrong chat

[toxic hemlock]

#ultrakill-modding

[unique trellis]

you're looking for #ultrakill-modding

[tight light]

nobody is answering ao im doing it here

[toxic hemlock]

ok so i think what ur doing rn is enlarging it by multiplying it's size rather than adding some fixed amount to it

[toxic hemlock]

be a patient little peanut and wait

[unique trellis]

Should I send the graph so you can take a look at it?

[tight light]

[toxic hemlock]

maybe idk what engine this is

[unique trellis]

Unity

[toxic hemlock]

oh ok im no help there then, been a hot minute since i last touched unity

[unique trellis]

dang

I appreciate the help tho

[toxic hemlock]

i think the general theory should still apply tho, dont scale the hull by a factor just resize it by some amount of world-units

[unique trellis]

Well I'm gonna post the graph here just incase if someone here knows a solution to this problem.

[toxic hemlock]

maybe just try swapping that multiply node for an add node?\

[unique trellis]

No luck

[wraith beacon]

It's because you're using object space position rather than vertex normal for scaling things.

[hazy sky]

fell asleep

[hazy sky]

press tab at the highlighted line to indent it

when you're checking something, you need to indent the block like

if this_check == true:
do_stuff()
else:
pass

[hazy sky]

I like the deeper colors, looks dreamy at places

[hazy sky]

#ultrakill-modding

[hazy sky]

it does look like you're using the objects size and multiply by some amount rather than a small but constant amount

[unique trellis]

Sorry I'm trying to wrap my head around these because I only followed a tutorial for the effect

I have no clue how the Graph editor works

[wraith beacon]

Got bored and decided to make retro emboss style bump mapping.

No idea why it was stuttering when I changed the fake light position but uhhhhhhhhhh.

[stiff thorn]

@desert shard I just wanted to mention how impressively recognizeable your artstyle is, brutha. I was browsing the fan game section on itch.io and soon as I saw the chainsaw man game's cover, I could instantly tell it was yours

[desert shard]

lol.
Thank you

I should probably make another fangame at some point .....

[stiff thorn]

Yeah, a short, fun one, for sure

Wish I had the time to make one

[hazy sky]

General modding should collab

[merry lotus]

new blood game jam...

[hazy sky]

I'd make an arg for sure

I'm aching so hard to make a genuinely creepy and unsettling arg horror game

like not jumpscare horror, just the feel of horror and being uninvited

and not the creepy pasta bullshit where xy thing bleeds hyperrealistically all of a sudden, you could entirely just miss the ARG part of the short mini game

and now that I know a good chunk of development and I'm in the loop, it's very much a possibility now

[merry lotus]

it just occurred to me

is it even legal to use the half life bsp version in a separate commercial game

[hazy sky]

it may not be

Xash3D also uses it but it's also not a commercial game

[stiff thorn]

Hell yes, brutha

Let us make a god hand spiritual successor

[hazy sky]

i kinda have the system in place

need animations and an art style

(i made it a 3D side scroller)

[stiff thorn]

Eeeeh

3D side scroller ain't for me

One of the best parts about it's focus on positioning is that you have 3 dimensions of movement

I was thinking more along the lines of similar gameplay with an improved, but similar style of camera, more crowd control moves (still ones you have to earn) and directional counters like in Oni

[toxic hemlock]

ONI MENTIONED

[stiff thorn]

Oni had really good ideas with the directional attacks

Too bad it feels more clunky than the locked, over-the-shoulder God Hand, surprisingly

Not to throw shade at Oni, but God Hand's many combos flowing into each other as well as them being (almost) always cancellable at any time just makes group fights so much more palatable and smooth

But I do love the directional attacks Oni had. Imagine if you could use the same idea, but combine it with God Hand's counter system

[vestal idol]

BRO WHY IS EVERYONE HERE HOT

[muted stirrup]

@wraith beacon about that l4 👀

[limber bramble]

[hazy sky]

because the tank controls work here

sure it can be frustrating but somehow you have the best agility intended for this

if only the turn speed was a bit faster and you could strafe too

[hazy sky]

no boards are too thick to chop

[merry lotus]

yeah but then you'd just skip the level

and it's more badass to drive through them...

[hazy sky]

metal fortified planks,,

[pure jackal]

an iron gate

[merry lotus]

you'd crash the car

[unique trellis]

Assuming you have an axe you could just say it's too dull to chop that wood specifically

idk if that logic would work or not it's the only think to pop into my mind

[stiff thorn]

Yeah, 'cause the soft lock-on and dodging are meant for it, and yet I wonder if we can still have that exhilarating gameplay without the tank controls

Sorta how re4 remake made it work

[hazy sky]

if you're weak

[hazy sky]

okay but that's a shooter

God hand is designed around enemies that fuck you over

[stiff thorn]

I know

That's why I said sorta

Main reason behind God Hand's crowd difficulty is that all your easy to use, short wind up attacks only really work against one enemy

And to use more AOE ones you gotta earn them

I think that can still be done using a soft lock-on while doing away with tank controls

[hazy sky]

hello

can anyone tell me why the edge bevel weight is refusing to work again

[merry lotus]

learning how framebuffers work so i can add something cool to dead end

[hazy sky]

okay but how do you use edge bevel weight

[merry lotus]

why not just bake a fake bevel effect into the texture using a shader

[hazy sky]

because i want high poly bake

[merry lotus]

oh is this not for the medal of honor thing

[hazy sky]

but without fucking up the topology on the high poly

[hazy sky]

it is

[merry lotus]

oh i misunderstood

idk sorry

[hazy sky]

i usually bake in details from normal map

so the lighting looks good and gives a good illusion of more details

let me consult the shotgun model for this

the entire shotgun is like 300 tris at best

but due to the way i calculate the baked lighting, it looks like it has 10 times more

man this came out so good,,,,

wish the kar 98 came out so well too

might do a revision on this

[merry lotus]

getting somewhere

depth is just a bit messed up rn

there we go just had to change where opengl cleared the screen and depth buffer

and now if i just change a couple shader values...

post processing!

now to add that thing i mentioned earlier

[spare scarab]

looks sick

[hazy sky]

i see that town

[merry lotus]

horror movie filter :)

aka film grain, vignette, & contrast

got the idea from fallen aces's noir effect

[pure jackal]

Ze folks wagon

[hazy sky]

good ol 33 coupe

[hazy sky]

actually curious, how come you have the health displayed plainly as text instead of having some cool gauge instead?

[merry lotus]

it's temporary

and I'm not sure what to do for a design

[hazy sky]

i wanted to do one where it's a bar filled with liquid, and animated too so you can see the bubbles sort of fizz in there

not necessarily lifebar but animated lifebars always look good

[hazy sky]

@pure jackal which gun should i start animating, the Kar98, the shotgun, MP40 or the FG42

[pure jackal]

Mp40

||I want to try the fg42 >:]||

though honestly all of them are really good picks to animate first

in terms of easiest to get started, it'd probably be the shotgun

not as many moving parts

[hazy sky]

well yea

still not sure if i should animate the shells being inserted one by one or have them reload all at once

with how much attention i've put into the guns already, i think i should just do a sequential reload where it gets inserted one by one

also i need to play with my rig

as in find it first

the person under this post is smelly

[stiff thorn]

btw guys ya'll know how to do paired anims in Godot?

aw fuck

[hazy sky]

paired anims?

[hazy sky]

elaborate

rn

or else i'll follow you home and ask you in person

[stiff thorn]

no no please don't, I got enough people in my walls

I meant for example like a suplex

do you just have both the enemy and the player play animations seperately, at the same time while you teleport them to starting positions?

or is there merhaps a better way?

[hazy sky]

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

let me think

[unique trellis]

My friend is gonna help me program a kick function. Hopefully I can get some coding experience out of it.

[hazy sky]

well for starters, you'd need the grab animation and reaction animation on the respective sides

and either use root motion or use attach points

worst case scenario is using IK within godot if you need to

with root motion, you could basically animate the entire thing in blender by having two rigs

[unique trellis]

Well rn all I have is the model and animation I made for it in blender

[hazy sky]

oh i was replying to @stiff thorn

[stiff thorn]

hmmm

see I don't get that part with two rigs

implies to me that I'd need a seperate export that has both rigs in it

and then call it when I need paired animations?

[unique trellis]

Oh mb

[stiff thorn]

which seems like an ass workflow at first glance

also wdym when you mention attach points?

[hazy sky]

not really

in godot, you can retarget animations

do you know what retargetting means?

[stiff thorn]

animations on different models that use the same skeleton?

[hazy sky]

good

[stiff thorn]

I think

[hazy sky]

in godot, you can create animation libraries

[stiff thorn]

yeah

[hazy sky]

in short, you export a rig from blender, and import into godot as a library

you can create a separate library from the other rig

[stiff thorn]

and retarget it's anims?

[hazy sky]

yeah

but you'd only export one rig at a time

[stiff thorn]

oh

that's kind of what I meant when I said playing them seperately

[hazy sky]

yeah

you could do that

[stiff thorn]

aight I know that one, I just wondered if there are some better ways I wasn't aware of

[hazy sky]

the rigs in street fighter for example don't merge for the duration of grabs

[stiff thorn]

'cause I remember trying to mod skyrim and one of the anim files had two rigs in it

[hazy sky]

yeah that is curious

[stiff thorn]

yeah and I heard it's why most people couldn't mod paired anims

'cause they had the skeleton for single anims

but paired ones used two rigs in one file?

still no idea how that works

anyway, thanks, I guess I'll just go with the seperate method

seems a decent enough option and I know how to do it

[hazy sky]

did you try asking in the godot servers

[stiff thorn]

I'd rather not at this point

there's like 4 questions of mine I sent a few weeks ago

they've been laying there untouched ever since

[merry lotus]

https://vxtwitter.com/ThePlaz42/status/1850257893007720509

[hazy sky]

normal maps my beloved

[hazy sky]

i think its cool now

took like 3 hours to relight the baked lighting

this time each separate part uses at LEAST three light sources, the body, barrel and stock uses 6 each

maximize dramatic lighting

think it was absolutely necessary tho

specially since this is gonna be the world model as well

can't have the gun be black on one side and shaded from the other

[merry lotus]

bigger or smaller noise?

[hazy sky]

definitely looks better, but will have to tweak the lights close to the camera

oh fuck

forgot to apply the bipod's texture

was wondering why it felt so uncanny

[merry lotus]

the contrast looks so good it's just so dark

maybe instead of contrast i should do saturation

[hazy sky]

need a last polishing pass on this as well

excuse me

[limber bramble]

noice, looks much better

[limber bramble]

small noise gang

[feral ermine]

Do people have any strong feelings on mixing resolutions in a game?
Been trying it to make text in the world more legible without making it overly large

[merry lotus]

I think it's fine

[limber bramble]

I think that's a pretty good solution to the problem

doesn't really compromise much, if anything

[feral ermine]

Thanks!
I thought it was necessary for having interactive computers and such but wondered if I was committing some sorta crime in the process
it still dithers and such at the improved resolution, the sampling change can make edges a little jaggedy sometimes, but its a small flaw

[hazy sky]

time to start redoing the other assets too to bring them up to quality

[earnest lily]

layout / clusterfuck for Sirocco Thugs demo

[feral ermine]

nice blockout!

How were you planning to do the more final level geometry?
I've wound up using cubegrid a ton because it lets me tweak things in the editor

[earnest lily]

Static meshes out the ass

I dont really know any other way and I won't need terrains for this either

[feral ermine]

Cheers, I guess I mainly meant how said meshes are made, I havent worked with terrains at all
I can blender decently but cubegrid has let me alter things in the actual level which has been handy, it can make some bogus meshes and mess up looping textures if used wrong though

[earnest lily]

oh hm

it looks interesting, so far most of my 3d modeling work has been traditional

so yeah I guess the answer would be "lots of blender"

[unique trellis]

Thought of this silly idea and just wanted to share it with you all. I'm gonna be adding this later in development when I can.

[hazy sky]

tiny car mate

[hazy sky]

just make a servo and extend the kick from the knee?

dropkick,,

[unique trellis]

That's actually a good idea and way better design wise

Thinking of like a leg attachment that just has a piston on side acting as a powerful kick

Way better than just a reality defying piston at the bottom of the shoe

[feral ermine]

the New Vegas ballistic fist, duct taped to your shoe

[unique trellis]

I also thought of when you aim it at the floor you can boost yourself

[unique trellis]

Not final design but it will do for now

[merry lotus]

should i add a half-life styled flashlight to dead end

i know everyone says the half life 1 flashlight sucks buuuuttt

[unique trellis]

Well if it covers enough area then maybe

Because the vanilla HL1 flashlight was doggy doodoo because of it's size

[limber bramble]

you already got dynamic lighting up and running in your enigne?

[limber bramble]

lol this is a cute idea

[merry lotus]

nah it's just an addition to the map fragment shader that make the area around a point brighter

i'm not sure if i'm gonna add dynamic lighting

should i?

[limber bramble]

as the resident lighting freak at New Blood I will always say yes to something like that

but realistically, only if it's a fun prospect or practical to your project imo

[merry lotus]

i might add it later for small effects like glow around projectiles or muzzle flashes

[wraith beacon]

Depends on how comprehensive of a dynamic lighting system you need for the project.

[hazy sky]

it does suck but not for the reasons you'd think. for a flashlight it's laughable because of how small it's radius was

if you could make the flashlights point grow or shrink depending on how far it is from you, I think it could work

it didn't make sense in half life that the flashlight always had this small pinpoint radius regardless of how far the light shone

[blissful arch]

pain in the ass but definitely worth it in the end

im in the process of doing that atm

[limber bramble]

implement Forward+ rendering

[muted stirrup]

Snipin' time

[hazy sky]

hell yea

what sniper is that

[hazy sky]

what's forward+

[muted stirrup]

L42a1, need to add a little more detail on the bolt area but its getting there

[limber bramble]

Forward+ is an improvement of the forward rendering path, generally with better performance and support for many more lights. Instead of re-rendering a lit object multiple times for every light that affects it (as Unity does with pixel lights), or calculating contribution from all lights affecting an object, the screen is subdivided into a grid of small tiles, each one storing a list of lights.

For each tile, a frustum is constructed, and every light visible to the camera is intersection tested against that frustum. Lights that intersect are added to the tile's light list. Finally, in the fragment shader for lit objects, you determine which tile the fragment is in, and calculate light contribution from just those lights

I implemented that for Fallen Aces' dynamic point and spot lighting. We had a forward-esque approach before where there was a global list of visible lights that would be used to shade every fragment, but this got extremely expensive with even a small number of lights

Here's a debug view example from FA

the # on each tile = # of rendered lights for that portion of the screen

[muted stirrup]

better side view, lee action bolts seem to have a alot of detail needed lol

(also in game, plan is to have the player character shoot with third finger so fire it faster, like the real action since its short and quick)

[hazy sky]

pretty interesting, also pretty interesting how Godot's rendering engine is supposedly faster than Unity's

[hazy sky]

you could lighten up the wood texture so it contrasts better against the dark metal

but kino shit so far

[limber bramble]

I don't know if that's necessarily true, but considering there are like 20 permutations of Unity's rendering pipeline, who knows

[drowsy escarp]

https://bskyx.app/profile/someautisticdev.bsky.social/post/3l7o6h4bopi2z

[muted stirrup]

like this?

[hazy sky]

okay that's sexy

did you make the wood body from multiple pieces?

[muted stirrup]

yeah, theres a slight issue with teh stock being seperate

so theres a small part sticking out

didnt have the issue so much on say the the bren gun, since its easier to build that from seperate shapes

so i might redo the stock as one at some point

[hazy sky]

what do you use?

blender?

[muted stirrup]

3ds max

[hazy sky]

oh shit, my bad good luck with it

[muted stirrup]

lmao

[hazy sky]

(idk 3ds max)

[muted stirrup]

ive been meaning to transition to blender for a while, given im pretty sure it shouldnt be too different based on what ive seen

also given im not working with high poly / detail stuff anyways

[hazy sky]

oh man wait til you find out how many polygons my stuff have

[hazy sky]

how many tris is this model

[muted stirrup]

you dont wanna know 💀

[hazy sky]

why do you think i asked

of course i wanna know

[muted stirrup]

well thats the complex collision in ue4 lol

id say thats accurate to how the mesh looks, forgot/couldnt be arsed to trim this part down lmao

[hazy sky]

that carryhandle has more tris than my entire FG42 💀

wait lemme check

[muted stirrup]

if it ships it ships

[hazy sky]

i like clean topology,,,,,,,,,,,

[muted stirrup]

" Edge flow? Whats an Edge flow? "

[hazy sky]

if there's no edge then there's no flow

[torpid oak]

don't mind the high poly parts, it was for a school assignment and we only needed to optimize the chassis

I also forgot to clean up some of the window parts

had a week to make it so some of it is a little rushed

[hazy sky]

shit man why did you make it look edible

now i crave yummy car

[torpid oak]

it's the matte color and lighting

lol

[hazy sky]

its called candy finish for some reason

not sure why

[muted stirrup]

having looked at it in editor it looks sligghtly less offensive lmao

[unique trellis]

Sorry to interrupt but I got my kick viewmodel working. Now I have to get it to work and yknow... Kick things...

[torpid oak]

I mean the paint is just matte black but the HDRI I used is VERY pink

[hazy sky]

man that's an overhead kick if i ever saw one

full on heel hammer

[torpid oak]

me thinks you could dissolve some edges on the cylinder and get away with it if you use smooth shading

it's still low so doesnt rly matter

[hazy sky]

wonder why you need all that extra topology on flat surfaces

[muted stirrup]

i dont im honestly just lazy icl

[torpid oak]

it looks cool I like it

[muted stirrup]

the cylinders could have the half the edges, specifically the barrel etc , the rest i dont think is that bad

[muted stirrup]

thanks 😄

[torpid oak]

I just rigged my lil guy

[muted stirrup]

nice

[hazy sky]

you're only baby, you'll learn

[torpid oak]

the topology is pretty good tbh, it's not all quads but its still pretty solid except for the cylinders

also quads not needed if the shading isn't fucked on hard surface objects

[hazy sky]

my only advice for low poly is to not do high poly 💀

[torpid oak]

low poly is relative

[muted stirrup]

aye, im not a game artist by trade, at uni i went down the design route, then switched to indie, and ive been doing that for years

tbh, ive not noticed mich performance hindrance

[hazy sky]

in blender, you can set how many edges should the cylinder have so i usually either go with 6, 8 or 12

[hazy sky]

mind you, this is very low poly still

[muted stirrup]

i like 16 tho lol

idk why ha

[hazy sky]

i feel like that's too defined for low poly

i usually do 8 or 12 and bake a 32 or 64 on it

[torpid oak]

in relation to what

[muted stirrup]

aye, im trying more mid 2000s, where theres like this wierd mix of low/high poly sorta stuff

[torpid oak]

why would you do bakes if you do a low poly artstyle

[muted stirrup]

given the 2000s covers ps2 - ps3 console era

i remember in college i just abused the turbosmooth function

ive learned that looong ago to not do that 💀

[hazy sky]

baked lighting

[torpid oak]

I mean

I guess if thats the style youre going for I guess it depends on what you make

[torpid oak]

but if you make retro graphics using smooth shading should suffice

[hazy sky]

no because the shading sucks with few polygons

[torpid oak]

it can be good

[hazy sky]

i'm not gonna bother with support loops plus i already have the normal map

[torpid oak]

Personally I'd probably just make it part of the texture at that point but sure depends on what era or style you want. Im usually in PS1 ish territory for low poly

so for me it wouldnt make sense

[hazy sky]

shitty ass shading with 0 normal information and old texture on top, bottom is new texture, normal map

[muted stirrup]

is it wierd

[hazy sky]

AND baked lighting

[muted stirrup]

that i dont hate the top one

[torpid oak]

I like it

[hazy sky]

i don't either, that's not the point

it just looked out of date and stuck out next to my other guns sasdly

sasdly

[muted stirrup]

gotcha, conistency makes sense then

[hazy sky]

it uses a photo of the same shotgun, i unwrapped with that in mind so

model is the same tho

[hazy sky]

derek jupiter guitar

[torpid oak]

I had no idea what I was doing when I made this, it's pretty cursed behind the scenes but most of it is quads

[muted stirrup]

thats very clean, nice

[torpid oak]

but it's all made in mid poly so I didnt have super amazing shading done automatically for me

[hazy sky]

honestly if i had fucked up topo, i'd just use weighted normals to try and salvage it

[hazy sky]

but yea this is clean as fuck

[torpid oak]

I also wasnt super good at uv mapping back then so it's multiple 4k UDIMs for texture

[stiff thorn]

honestly guys, weighted normals is such a "fix it for me" button, legit MVP

[torpid oak]

if I did it now I'd be able to do this at the same quality with way less texture space

probably keep textures at 2k also

[hazy sky]

whats udim

[muted stirrup]

genuine question, you worked much in industry or just practiced alot @torpid oak ?

[hazy sky]

not always but you can always just apply it to select groups

[torpid oak]

multiple UV spaces with different textures

[hazy sky]

oh

[stiff thorn]

well yeah, obviously, nothing is ever THAT easy

but holy shit does it help out a lot of the time

[hazy sky]

peakzin nagant

[torpid oak]

no industry experience yet but I study to become a 3D artist and my teachers are industry professionals

[hazy sky]

still pretty low poly considering how high poly it looks

i hate it but i learned to embrace that failure

[torpid oak]

looks awesome

[muted stirrup]

ahhh, was guessing you went the uni route also, just on the 3d art compared to me since i went the design route, makes sense 👍

[torpid oak]

I havent done any guns yet... Honestly I haven't done much of anything yet most of it has been portfolio pieces and also assignments

I really wanna make a military sentry mech thing with spider legs using sub-d workflow

[muted stirrup]

that be neat

[hazy sky]

mod i made for 7 days to die

[muted stirrup]

nice work

[hazy sky]

actually the mosin was meant for that too

made a shittier salvaged version of it too

[muted stirrup]

lol looks cool

[hazy sky]

and a small deal thompson

[muted stirrup]

how long you been doing moding/dev for btw?

[hazy sky]

for some reason i never bothered to re render the better materials AND the different attachments

i only really started taking it more seriously in the past recent years

[torpid oak]

is this low poly enough

[hazy sky]

otherwise i've been at this for like what, since 2013

[hazy sky]

no

use less

[hazy sky]

less is more

[hazy sky]

nice texture work great job

[torpid oak]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fire-flamethrower-burn-on-fire-gif-7684110515453159552

[muted stirrup]

ahhh, if i count college years id say since like 2017/16, but seriously/indie since like 2020 for me 👍

so i guess 4 years in terms of releasing shiz etc

[torpid oak]

havent done much yet honestly but I've been learning blender since 2021 or something

but I kinda went all in 2022 and forward

[muted stirrup]

aye, inexperience is only temporary as they say

[hazy sky]

an artist is only as good as his tools are, and his tools are only as good as the artist can utilize them

or however that goes

i completely butchered it

[torpid oak]

yeah, defo been unlocking my potential exponentially as I have gotten more acustomed to blender and learning many tricks

[muted stirrup]

i guess theres some truth for the most part youll only use like 20 percent of the software tool wise, but knowing how to use the other 80 or so can elevate/unlock so much refinement

[pure jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/correctcity-feral-gif-21818350

[torpid oak]

learning good practises for workflow efficiency and industry practises and also taking the time to customize binds helps so much

[feral ermine]

Starting to model more props and feel like it's making my awfully blocky geometry stick out like a sore thumb
Might have to switch to blendering more of the structural stuff to see if it gets any better

[torpid oak]

did a basic ass hotkey to subdivide with mouse5 and dissolve with mouse4 on the extra keys on my mouse and holy shit its so useful

[torpid oak]

you can probably go a long way just using smooth shading on some areas

[muted stirrup]

i only worked in industry briefly but im being honest, you often learn alot when you start releasing shiz (at least going the indie dev route since you gotta often make it from ground up) for an artist im guessing the paths a little different, specially if you going more industry/freelance route

often wish i did a bit of modding back before i started now tbh

then again my scripting is....not great lol (far from it in fact 😅 )

[hazy sky]

what

[hazy sky]

the only thing that caught my eyes are the flat shaded arch roof

[pure jackal]

GIMMEGIMMEGIMME

[hazy sky]

shade auto smooth so good,,,,,,,,,

[hazy sky]

what would you like to do with it

[feral ermine]

Thanks, I'll look into it for the existing stuff
I've been abusing blockout tools and looping textures for it rather than modelling and texturing externally, since my friend who does the texturework has been ill
It's probably doing a lot more heavy lifting than it should be already, surprisingly robust once I found how to avoid it breaking looping textures and quadrupling vertices needlessly
I'm normally okay with individual surfaces sticking out, I think it's the difference in detail thats getting me most, and I cant really get any finer with blockout tools
The whole level was made at the same time as most of the mechanics and visuals took shape, when it's done and I start on the next one hopefully I can plan everything out in advance

[hazy sky]

its very crude tho you don't want it

topo all fucked up and shit

this was the model that made me take it more serious

[feral ermine]

that looks rad!

[pure jackal]

[hazy sky]

wait why is it not using the ridged barrel

am i stupdi

[muted stirrup]

lmao

[hazy sky]

stupdi

[muted stirrup]

Unrelated, but this is slowly coming together nicely now https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1851251958243356889

[hazy sky]

i have default barrel, short barrel, short ridged barrel, pistol handguard, the optic and the drum

[muted stirrup]

still need to swap out some sounds

[hazy sky]

with the addition of the top or side bolt

[feral ermine]

Yeah, its sticking out more here than most places
I've mostly been able to cover up that kinda stuff with lighting and high ceilings, but now I'm making more conventional rooms its hitting me hard
It's been a lot of confused screaming, as a programmer trying to do proper 3D level work for the first time

[muted stirrup]

the last part is relatable lol

doing things outside what you specialise in

[feral ermine]

it was such fun making all the technical stuff like 3d cursor interaction and messing with the AI and doors
And then I realise I have to properly model those valves, doors and the whole building theyre inside of

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/948666455048732702/1258020466464129145/image0.gif

[muted stirrup]

looking gud tho 👍

[feral ermine]

thanks!

and likewise!
Hope the sound stuff goes alright
I'm chock full of placeholders right now too

[hazy sky]

looks pretty good for a programmer

I'm the other way around, I'm a 3d artist first and foremost and do my own coding

[feral ermine]

nice, and thanks!

[hazy sky]

coincidentally my 3d work is lacking while the coding is going strong and I hate it

[feral ermine]

your stuff in here looks pretty great, for what it's worth

[hazy sky]

yea but I mean my game

I have 0 levels done

[stiff thorn]

I struggle with level design myself

[hazy sky]

I have VAGUE style guides and that's it

i dont tho, im just split betwen having to do everything and running out of ideas by the time i get there

[stiff thorn]

ah, I see XD

I just can't come up with a layout for the life of me

[hazy sky]

it'll be fine tho, I'm focusing gameplay first and then levels

[hazy sky]

have you tried dnd map generators

[stiff thorn]

like I know my level is the interior of a spaceship, I can imagine how a room looks like (lighting included), but I have no idea for the rest of it

[hazy sky]

some can be quite handy

[stiff thorn]

like no other ideas outside that one room and concept come out

[stiff thorn]

no...? never heard of such a thing, actually

it's why I wanted to do a beat 'em up at first, 'cause I knew level design was gonna be a struggle

yet here I am, making an fps XD

[feral ermine]

getting our only current level made has been a bloodbath, partially because the mechanics and everything else were still being worked out as it was made
I've seen it through almost to the end now, but I can't wait to design a level knowing the needs and tools available from the start instead of trying to shoehorn features into existing map

I miss when I was just coding

[hazy sky]

there are lots of map generators, you get a 2D topdown layout

you can generate villages, cities, houses

[stiff thorn]

hmm

obviously it won't fit, but perhaps it would work as a starting point...

yknow what? good idea, I'll try it out, thanks

[unique trellis]

Used a parent to bones approach for the model and it works wonders.

It's tedious to set up but I don't have to deal with deformation and weight painting

[limber bramble]

Yeah, can't be any more cursed than weight painting

[stiff thorn]

dear god :((

please no

where's the AI tool to do perfect weight-painting?

if only we had one :/

[unique trellis]

The model itself is made out of seperate parts. I tried rigging it with weight paint and it just caused a lot of issues.

[hazy sky]

i don't really think AI could do any better than we do tbh, weight painting needs a lot of context

[stiff thorn]

True, but we could get there if AI efforts were focused on shit like this

Not on trying to straight up make full 3D models

[drowsy rose]

There exists a tool called auto rig pro that can smart create rigs and has auto weight painting

How good it is im not too sure im just in a blockout phase right now but it works well and the rig control is v nice

But the auto weight painting is probably at least a good starting point anyhow

Just be wary of using bone stretching if you plan on bringing them over to like unreal engine or something

[stiff thorn]

that tool is awesome actually

I tried blender's automatic weight-painting and it performed horribly on fps arms

so I gave it to auto-rig pro's voxellized skinning engine and it straight up made 90% perfect weights

same thing happened when I tried it with a full body

might be recency bias, but so far it's one of the best starting points you could ask for

[steel orbit]

Hoyl shit wrong chat mb, meant to send that art in the art chat

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1851722020628672816 arctic warfare rifle added

polycounts better on this one lol

since the cylinders and tubes only have needed amount of segments/loops

[spare needle]

why is there no gloomwood modding

[merry lotus]

because it's not done yet

and there's no official mod support

[spare needle]

fair enough

[weary flicker]

does making a map in hammer++ count as mod making?

not mod making but making smth

a map

[toxic hemlock]

yes

bitches post doom maps here all the time so post ur source shit sis

love me some brushwork

[unique trellis]

Brushwork always got my back

[toxic hemlock]

'ate sectors
'ate static meshes
'ate tiles
luv me convex solids
simple as

[spare scarab]

Sectors go hard tbh

Aint no quicker way to make a set of rooms

[unique trellis]

Made this lil hud icon that I will possibly use for health. I edited in the outline in paint.net.

[merry lotus]

was messing around with post processing and thought this would be a cool color palette for a future level

[unique trellis]

Here's a pizza box I made. I plan for the pizza inside to change based on the order you're currently delivering. If any of you want to add any custom pizzas then just dm me the toppings you want on it and I'll make sure to keep it all on a list.

[limber bramble]

Hell yeah

[manic raptor]

I need for someone to teach me unity cause I cannot understand the internet

[unique trellis]

Checking the pizza box. This mechanic is primarily just used to check the temperature of the pizza which is gonna be extremely important for a good grade.

Those red squiggles are one of the few icons used to portray the temp. Those squiggles are the default temperature which is hot.

[hazy sky]

why are they going horizontally

[unique trellis]

Just a design choice I made.

Here are all the other icons

I'm also gonna be working on a test map on what I want the maps to look like so I'll make sure to post updates on that

[oblique topaz]

NEW DOOM(zandronum, GZDoom) MOD TC TRAILER

⦑ ☣BIOHAZARD TRAILER☣ ⦒

Nillium - The grave of mankind, my dear friend... welcome to the hell...

https://youtu.be/K99YNnn2v1M

[hazy sky]

what

[hazy sky]

can you talk normal

[pure jackal]

Why is your everything like that
Why does it look like that

[manic raptor]

downloading unity what should i need to know?

[oblique topaz]

Eeergghhh... What? This looks like doom (zandronum or GZDoom) mod.

[pure jackal]

The text

[oblique topaz]

Oh... Just because of because... I'm want some StYlEd TeXt

[hazy sky]

shur up

if you want people to not read your shit then you're on a good path

[oblique topaz]

Can't you motherfucker communicate normally instead of aggressively attacking people?

[hazy sky]

no

if this is aggressive to you then I have real fucking bad news for you

[tidal fulcrum]

calm down pls and ty. no need to fight u silly geese

[azure flume]

rotate the "hot" by 90 degrees so it looks like hot steam

not waves of fire

heat goes up!

[blissful arch]

artist illustration of microwaves

[forest harbor]

bazinga

[proud stump]

wefds

[feral ermine]

Hey, does anyone have any recommendations or good reference material for low-fidelity level geometry?
Trying to touch up some of my test level and pin down the visuals

I think I'm mostly getting rather caught up on how blocky rooms can feel, but is sticking some trim all along where walls meet the ceiling a proper solution?

[pure jackal]

Honestly anything on the NDS would be decent reference if you're looking for squeezing as much as you can out of low poly limits

[feral ermine]

thanks! I'll take a look

[toxic hemlock]

you now owe unity 20 decillion dollars every time someone downloads your game

[hazy sky]

make light attenuation a bit smaller so the lights are less concentrated around the light and more evenly spread around, it might be too blocky because the corners are too dark and the middle is too bright

another thing you could try and add are decals to surfaces

you could apply smooth shading as well where applicable like the arches undersides

plus if you want a bit more detail you could always add in more via geometry. try indenting things into the wall like the doorways or arches or whatever they are, or push the walls out a little

sometimes the reason something feels blocky is likely because it's literally blocky

[hazy sky]

you could extrude this part out a little so it feels less uniform as a shape

or you could add something on the walls like cables running or pipes

[feral ermine]

Thanks!
I'll try fiddling with lighting, low visibility has helped in some places to cover up simple geometry
I've got a few decals like that wall grime I've started using, friend who does the texture work is ill so I've been making do for now
As far as smooth shading goes, I've been making the geometry in the engine with a blockout tool, which was very handy for actually making stuff with looping textures at a consistent scale whilst having everything else right next to it for reference, but has had limitations like a lack of smooth shading, in future I definitely want to make more reusable parts in blender instead that we can texture
I'll try to break up the surfaces more, spots like that space above are a problem of those alcoves and such being attached to a rather tall room
I wanted to barrel vault it or something similar, but the lack of smooth shading made the large curve stick out badly
I'll try to break up the wall surfaces more and add some more decor, I've made some modular pipes but should probably make some extra stuff like vents

The moral of the story is probably to not make a level entirely out of a blockout tool, but it became very handy since my blendering was so rusty when I started working on this

[hazy sky]

in these PSX examples, you can see that there's always variety in the geometry, it's never just flat geometry with textures and in some cases the baked in vertex lights carried the entire thing

or in the case of MGS they literally baked the lights INTO the textures

every single room, there's so many unique textures bruh

but yeah if the wall doesn't slope or tilt in a direction, there's a good chance something is placed along the wall to give depth

or posters as well

[feral ermine]

oh yeah, my friend who was doing texturework being ill has led to a lot of the looping texture reuse
As far as lights go I wanted to try some different things but having the lighting setup to alternate between normal and emergency made things a lot fiddlier

[hazy sky]

the lights look really good though

[feral ermine]

thanks!

thanks again for all the advice
I'll try to make a lot more decor to break up surfaces, and give them some placeholder textures

[hazy sky]

also, if you want good PSX inspired style guides, look up games that pushed consoles like the PSX itself to it's limits

watch some long plays of it, skip around and take nodes or screenshot portions out for reference and do a sort of research about how a scene is structured and try to understand why they did it like that

this is a process that I really enjoy doing and I always take my time with it

not in just this example but be it level design, gameplay element anything

half the shit in my game feel so good to use is because medal of honor has these super satisfying guns and to mimic the behavior and satisfying feel, I played through the game with a different glasses and started piecing together the puzzle about what made it so good

[feral ermine]

thanks, will do
Its really impressive what teams could do to push the hardware to its limits
I'm definitely not replicating things perfectly, already messing around with things like the colour quantisation, dithering and some vertex snapping changing when the player is injured and such, but definitely want to try and do much more

[hazy sky]

i suggest quantizing the textures and applying a smaller resolution than applying quantization on everything textures involved and then the screen effect as well

but I don't remember how quantization worked on PSX

I don't think it had a full screen quantization effect with dithering going on

it's definitely something that could be looked into but then again it's also dependent on your art style

[feral ermine]

I'd been messing around with the quantisation changing based on values, and also some slightly heretical stuff with not downsampling for specific things to "focus" on objects or to make text small but still legible
If it weren't for that I would try something simpler

[wraith beacon]

Messing with vertex shader based destructibles some more.

[wraith beacon]

Now storing hit locations in render textures,

[feral ermine]

looks really nice!

[hazy sky]

you should look up the receiver glass thing on YouTube

[wraith beacon]

I already have, I watched that video the day it came out.

[waxen plover]

animation test of a character from my game

[spare scarab]

ey that's pretty damn good

[hazy sky]

separated the viewbob from the player to the weapon, now you can customize the weapon bobbing

[hazy sky]

watch it 21 more times

(its fascinating)

[unique trellis]

Honestly this looks a lot better. Thanks for the feedback.

[drowsy rose]

should I move to unity

I use unreal and im more familiar with c++ but what are the potential advantages of moving over

[unique trellis]

I'd say try it out for a bit and see how you like it

Make a little test project

Is this good enough for a small open map? It's 500x500 atm.

I want to make sure that it's big enough for a quick semi-open map.

[merry lotus]

https://bskyx.app/profile/plazmin.bsky.social/post/3l7ylkrjmhc24

[unique trellis]

Wait this is done in a custom engine?

[merry lotus]

yeah

[unique trellis]

That's fucking awesome

Does it have a name?

[merry lotus]

the engine or the game

[unique trellis]

The engine and also the game because I'd like the check that out too

[merry lotus]

the game is called Dead End and the engine doesn't have a name so i just refer to it as the "Dead End Engine"

[unique trellis]

I see. Do you plan to make it open at some point?

[merry lotus]

maybe i'm not sure yet

but i'll try my best to make it easily moddable

[unique trellis]

Level grading concept.

When you beat a level I plan for the grading to be based off of a 5 star review system. The review you get is split into 2 factors with 2.5 stars being for time and the other 2.5 stars being for pizza quality (Temperature of pizza). The overall rating is just all the ratings from the other levels you beat.

[manic raptor]

Bruv how's the game ur making is it coming out nicely

[unique trellis]

Me or Plazmin?

[azure flume]

That's a question that can only be answered by doing playtests.

Make shit and see what sticks

[spare scarab]

there's no way to know until you try it

[earnest lily]

Where do I put tutorials?

[tranquil oracle]

dead center, 2x scale, all confidence

[merry lotus]

teleport the player to a tutorial room whenever a tutorial is triggered

(I'd recommend putting it on the bottom or top center)

[earnest lily]

terrible moment to have used up all space at the bottom

[merry lotus]

you can just put it a little above the elements at the bottom

like around here

[hazy sky]

how about instead of a black box it could be a piece of paper

[earnest lily]

hey reading what I said in other places is not fair

[hazy sky]

wait what

where else did you discuss this

i was thinking like the driver 1's tutorial

but on the left side

[earnest lily]

so I was more specifically thinking ||sticky notes that change screen placement based on the relevant element||

[hazy sky]

what about scratch card

that would be funny since these thugs would 100% use scratch lottery

[earnest lily]

you are insinuating they'd be intelligent enough to

( there is a more appropriate local gambling meme for this )

[hazy sky]

wym just take paper, scratch with quarter

[waxen plover]

a somewhat good hand model i made

[uncut agate]

Castles, anybody?

[pure jackal]

Mind the Gap.
Though, it's more like an abyss...

[feral ermine]

looks really nice!

[feral ermine]

experimenting with mixing hand painted dithering into looping surface textures to try and squeeze a little extra life out of using blockout tools to make geometry in place of blending and texturing surfaces properly

ie; using a separate looping texture for tops and bottoms of walls, but still being able to generate them in the editor

mip issue slightly messed up the last image, another comparison to try and prove they are making some difference and I'm not losing it

[hazy sky]

no way you're back

what's up man

[hazy sky]

@hazy sorrel here?

[hazy sorrel]

what is it

[hazy sky]

it says your ad here

[hazy sorrel]

dont bother me with this blood 2 map

[hazy sky]

I wonder if it'll crash into a baby this time as well

[uncut agate]

nothing much
ive got a sort of commission thing going on

[pure jackal]

[stiff thorn]

oh damn, getting commissions already?

[hazy sky]

nice

[uncut agate]

sadly ive gotten none so far, dont really know how to advertise my services
right now ive got a twitter account up posting some of my works
but it only gets a few views and thats it
ive also tried discord servers but nothing from that either

[unique trellis]

Getting someone to voice the protagonist (Spoiler: It isn't Gianni)

[uncut agate]

i feel like a mixture of these two designs would work well
like several bricks only showing

[waxen plover]

😭

[uncut agate]

decimate modifier?

[waxen plover]

yeah

i gotta retopo

[uncut agate]

have the symmetry set to y
that'll make the faces the same on both sides

[waxen plover]

well

I'll just remodel it

[uncut agate]

yeah, i usually make a high quality model then retopo it with better geometry and what not

but it looks good so far!

[waxen plover]

ty

[feral ermine]

looks nice!

[feral ermine]

made some more modular decor to break up flat surfaces
more texture variety too for gradients, effectively working from a trimsheet now

[hazy sky]

wrong channel sorry

[craggy minnow]

LMAOAOAAO

[uncut agate]

i am cooking

[unique trellis]

Deathmatch map I made for Half life night in NBDS.

I'm amateur at mapping so feedback on what I can improve would be nice

[slender knoll]

yoooooo

this brings back memories

I should just fucking pick up mapping again instead of always talking of the "old days" or whatever other excuse I have

I mostly did small maps for cs and some single player levels

[unique trellis]

If you are then I recommend the dimbeak tutorials. Learned a lot from him and he makes them really entertaining.

[slender knoll]

was this done in jack?

or are you using the older vhe

[unique trellis]

Jackhammer

[slender knoll]

👍

[unique trellis]

Well to be specific the free version of it

[slender knoll]

wait jack costs money?

[unique trellis]

Yeah on steam

[slender knoll]

interesting

[unique trellis]

The steam version just has more qol and stuff tho from what I heard

[slender knoll]

then again 15 eurodollars aint shit

[unique trellis]

https://youtu.be/sjX96WdY9iE?si=T-LfkoEFsam_GXeZ This video pretty much showcases all the tools you need

[slender knoll]

lmfao it even has achievements

[unique trellis]

WHAT

[unique trellis]

Honestly that's really funny and cool

[slender knoll]

also I wonder if the carve tool finally works right almost 20 years later

or whatever it was that u used a brush to carve out another brush

[unique trellis]

Clip tool?

[slender knoll]

wasnt clip just the one u used to cut a brush in two?

[unique trellis]

yeah

[slender knoll]

point is Jack is literally just vhe

and back in the day vhe had a tool that let you use a brush to carve out another brush and it was always fucky and you never wanted to use it

so in the end you just used the clip tool because it didnt cause errors when compiling

[unique trellis]

I've never seen the carve tool when I used jack

[slender knoll]

lol maybe it just flat out doesnt exist anymore then

[unique trellis]

yeah maybe lol

[slender knoll]

I cant even member if it was called carve

[slender knoll]

to be more precise: for example you placed a cylinder brush inside a regular block brush and carved it so it made a cylinder shaped hole in the block

it always caused problems so it was better to just cut it by hand

[unique trellis]

Looking into it more and the carve tool might've been a source thing.

[slender knoll]

hmm

I didnt really do source mapping

[unique trellis]

I couldn't find much on it so it could just be a tool that was so hated that jack removed it

[slender knoll]

no idea

[unique trellis]

I never used the base vhe so I don't know much on it

[slender knoll]

I tried jack a few years back and it's just vhe lol

with shit added in between

vhe used to be called worldcraft before valve acquired it

[unique trellis]

I am using Jack with some 3rd party tools so it could be a lot more different from what you experienced

[slender knoll]

does the interface change much tho?

[unique trellis]

Not sure but you can take a look at this if you notice anything different

[slender knoll]

the icons are a bit different but the basic layout is still the same windows default

I could probably barely remember how to make a hinged door but I could probably build you a shitty house out of brushes lmao

and make it airtight so its not fullbright

[unique trellis]

That reminds me of my first deathmatch map I made and publish on gamebanana

It was just a small thing that I could mess around with but I learned a lot through it

I remember learning how to make doors, ladders and health chargers

[slender knoll]

yooo gamebanana

havent heard that name in years

or how about planet half-life

[unique trellis]

Never heard of it

[slender knoll]

https://planethalflife.gamespy.com/index.html

still exists wtf

[unique trellis]

Well not in the best shape though

[slender knoll]

yeah it doesnt look right

copyright at the bottom says 96-11

gamespy's been dead for ages tho

back in the day every game that was something had a planet site

[unique trellis]

I wish brush mapping was still a way of making maps in modern game engines

[slender knoll]

agreed

[unique trellis]

It's really beginner friendly imo

[slender knoll]

brushes have so much soul in them

I will forever respect someone who built whatever object out of brushes and made it look good over an imported model