general-modding

[merry lotus]

i also discovered this brand new glitch where for some reason certain objects cause the player's collider to move while the player stays in place

i'm assuming it has something to do with overlapping brushes

nvm poked around and found out that it was this piece of code that teleports the player back to it's previous position if it moves through a brush between frames

[hazy sky]

that seems kinda complicated

at this point i spent more time on the HUD than the game itself

[pure jackal]

Fair

[desert shard]

Finished my Ludum Dare entry lol

https://badpiggy.itch.io/spirit-edge

[limber bramble]

bro you are prolific

always making some cool shit

[rough sundial]

More content from my game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgj_pK5FvOI&ab_channel=Darxkl05

[slate python]

mmmmyeeeees crystal rock buggg.,...,,,,.

[hazy sky]

something's cookin,,,,

[hazy sky]

showcase of the stripper load, magazine and the revolver/shotgun loads

[pure jackal]

BYOOODIFUL

[earnest lily]

is this video a James Brown concert? because it got SOUL

[hazy sky]

done

such a cute little gimmick

never would have guessed it looked so good in motion

later on i'll tie everything together with signals so the animations will dictate the HUD's actions as well

did i mention i can control the speed of each bullet insertion and stuff

everything is fully modular

plus i can eject any of the bullets, not even in a particular order

[pure jackal]

BULLET CONFETTI

[hazy sky]

yasss

[hazy sky]

da rokat lawnchar

[pure jackal]

It should go in by halves

[hazy sky]

what

[pure jackal]

Half in, wait a sec, rest in

[hazy sky]

oh

lemme see if i can tween that

this fucks

[fickle zinc]

you know what add rocket jumping

rocket jumping needs to make a return in fps

[hazy sky]

yea you can rocket jump

with your ragdoll camera maybe

[hazy sky]

please consult with the end of this video

[pure jackal]

FUCK YEAH

@limber bramble BRO LOOK AT WHAT SOLACE HAS COOKED

[hazy sky]

dinner served, bitchers

[south tinsel]

reloading bottom right my beloved

[limber bramble]

yeah that shit is cool

[earnest lily]

https://tenor.com/view/cool-shark-shark-yerah-yeah-shark-yeah-gif-17883556731611562555

[limber bramble]

the revolver reload is so juicy

[azure flume]

Time to add some weapon animations!

I know you totally love animation!

[hazy sky]

I really fucking love rigging

[hazy sky]

swear I'll get to it tomorrow

need a breather for now

might have to completely redo the arm rig

[pure jackal]

May I see it

[hazy sky]

see what

[pure jackal]

The rig

[merry lotus]

early axe throwing

suggested by someone in the selaco discord server

[hazy sky]

think i posted pics of it here

[pure jackal]

Is it the same rig as the one you did back in the first iteration of the project?

[hazy sky]

nope

[hazy sky]

okay so after 4 hours of dota 2

let me boot up blender for you

its not a complex rig though, but very in spirit of the medal of honor arm model

here's the OG PS1 model

shiiit

might actually need to reshape the fingers a little bit

[rotund garden]

bro is cooking

[pure jackal]

that is not the rig that is the olde model

[hazy sky]

this one is the rig

the old model stops at the forearm

this i made from scratch, got cool control bones and everything

should adjust the finger shapes and add some more topology to make sure things bend well

[hazy sky]

yoooooo godot engine update les goo

[granite tusk]

ah for real

4.2 ?

[lapis sinew]

hello people i wish to ask how to compile .blob into .dll

it is c# code

i assume it has to do with visual studio but i have no idea what workloads are required

ping me if you decide to give solutions

[azure flume]

4.2.1 has existed for months already

i guess 4.2.2 came out

Any new features in it you are excited about Mr. Solace?

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1780934298461147450 boomstick clip

[hazy sky]

i don't know shit man, i just see bigger number, neurons fire up

i am no game developer, i don't know a thing about game engines

[dry spear]

hey does anybody know how to make unity scenes exportable/importable back into a final build

basically custom levels

[rotund garden]

https://vxtwitter.com/LandfallGames/status/1780525303778968042?t=C1zVY6O21gWpsslc7K-LBw&s=19

1 month

[hazy sky]

you wouldn't

[hazy sky]

plausible, a group of 5-6 people could easily make a cool game within a few weeks or months if they all know what to do

also fuck full time jobs,,,

i'm so tired, i'll probably leave the animation shit for the weekend when i'm caught up on my sleep debt

side note did i show before

this cool mgs vr mission project i had going on before

basically a gridmap containing combinations of walls and floors

later version i've done utilize two gridmaps, one for the floors, one for the walls

now that i say that, i think i actually shown this off before

but anyways its pretty cool

i might get back to this if i burn out from the medal of honor development

[dry spear]

super helpful cheers

[hazy sky]

if you can find dev tools for said game, sure, otherwise you might need to do your own compiler within unity

there is no guaranteed process

but let me guess you want to mod ultrakill

[dry spear]

nah bro im knee deep in my own game development

trying to make my game moddable

but just custom maps really

[hazy sky]

i'm 100% sure you can make your own packager and loader within unity without needing to extract and repack

look at Ballistic NG or Unturned for example

both are on unity, both allow for custom levels and assets to be loaded

i'm 100% sure there are better ways to create an in-game level editor or map maker than bruteforcing the process. or the least you could do is supply an SDK so people can mod with greater ease

but since it's unity, i'm 100% sure bepinex would help massively already

[azure flume]

Do what ultrakill does, text based maps.

[hazy sky]

it has custom maps?

[azure flume]

Yup

[dry spear]

all i need to figure out is how to "compile" a scene into an already compiled game build. So the game build would look for these "compiled" scenes in XYZ folder and use them

or more like geometry instead of a scene

liek the scene stays the same but it can load geometry during runtime from say an fbx file

or like a prefab

couldnt find shit online

[hazy sky]

pretty sure you can write to and load from file

open at least 30 pages of documentation

that's what i do all the time anyways

[wintry seal]

iam not a general mode

r

[merry lotus]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/815401135221374977/1230549303609655367/2024-04-18_12-01-56.mp4?ex=6633b958&is=66214458&hm=56966b59ae102bc7aa5c28389c30bd93eb4bd17eaf5f91872c52f375a3964d32&

triggers

[hazy sky]

is that a dusk sound effect

[merry lotus]

yeah

it's temporary

[hazy sky]

so fucking tired man

i'll just work on the sounds for now

watch this become a theme for two weeks

[pure jackal]

Hey any progress is good progress and good progress is pogress

[earnest lily]

I'm stealing that one

[merry lotus]

aside from the fact that func_plat isn't implemented, trigger_counter isn't implemented, some door pieces not moving, and light styles not having been implemented yet, quake e1m1 is pretty much completely playable in my engine

oh and that secret door at the start is kinda weird idk why

i wonder what i should do next

[hazy sky]

anybody got a cool interior shader for godot by any chance

i don't have to do it all myself do i

hh

[azure flume]

I didnt know either so I went with Godot

[hazy sky]

fucking suck

[hazy sky]

looks like a fishing pole

[wraith beacon]

Wip destructibles using only vertex shaders

[hazy sky]

really not sure

the first one actually looked better tbh

gonna use the third person viewmodel instead

[wraith beacon]

I know you aren't supposed to hold the Mp40 by the magazine but I generally find that sort of pose reads far better from first person.

[hazy sky]

its not held by the magazine though

just behind it

[wraith beacon]

I know, I'm just saying that posing it so that it's held by the magazine generally looks better in first person.

[hazy sky]

oh

well

where else would you hold it

[digital meteor]

how do i fix this

[hazy sky]

you cannot

you have to live with this now

live with the consequences of your action, or perish

[slim lance]

@novel elm, please keep all discussions in English.

[hazy sky]

i think the arm rig is done

now to unwrap,,,

[hazy sky]

it'll do for now

[dry spear]

https://vxtwitter.com/billybob_c10781/status/1781687958405345459

buffed the grenade launcher

[hazy sky]

guys

i really really really need some help

i have no idea how to set up the workflow on the arm rig for example

sure i will have an arm that i'm gonna use within the game

but i don't think every gun should have a new instance of the arms

do i animate every gun with the arm rig and then export the animations?

[dry spear]

thats what i do

have a unique instance of the arms for each gun

then disable/enable it accordingly

[hazy sky]

bruh

why would i create new and new rigs when i already have one

[dry spear]

im just telling you the way i do it, and it works, no performance hits

for ik rigs all you need to do is reposition the rig ends points and youre good to go

but maybe its different on godot?

[hazy sky]

not sure

never fucked with it before

i hate low poly modeling

so fucking much

[earnest lily]

My scenes are usually set up with the arm rig and the weapon rig as two separate objects ( both in Maya as well as Blender )

The arms use the same skeleton asset, you need to cook up some logic to swap to the matching animation set when needed, and are exported as a separate asset from the gun

using my personal project as a practical example.

Linked library for weapon and one for arms

[hazy sky]

informative

guess i gotta set up some variables inside the gun scene

and pick animations based on that

[earnest lily]

not sure how Godot flows but I pass the animset as a struct in unreal engine

the arms "morph" accordingly for lack of better term

the cool advantage of this system is that you can easily swap out arms

[rugged canyon]

Which game is the best place for me to start making mods?

[earnest lily]

what's got you down?

[earnest lily]

these FBX ( 🤢 ) only contain animation data

SK_Thug_Player_Viewmodel is the mesh + skeleton

[rugged canyon]

okay

i'm very stupid

[hazy sky]

came out gold by accident

[earnest lily]

kino

[hazy sky]

so after a bit more normal map tweaks it is done now

lets see how it looks like in godot

it can use a little tweaking but it's close to finished

that barrel looks sloppy as fuck

[hazy sky]

pretty content with this outcome

man

playing with the normal maps

i'm really thinking about ditching the prebaked lighting

[muted stirrup]

ngl though, as a still shot

looks decent

no idea how it looks in motion

[hazy sky]

the same as in the still shot

(still not animated yet)

[muted stirrup]

id keep it as the final one for now then yeah, still better texturing than i could do lol

[muted stirrup]

is it bad that i want a variant like this?

[hazy sky]

might be

never out of the question tho

i'm planning a very cool trophy system that allows for multiple replays

basically you collect some collectible souvenirs and you unlock certain stuff

[muted stirrup]

oh nice, and yeah that be a cool and kinda organic way to reward the player with such

[hazy sky]

or like in goldeneye 64 where you could unlock cheats

same principle

okay prebaked lighting is NOT ditched

will keep the shiny factor to a minimum tho

[hazy sky]

who won

you decide

[fickle zinc]

the left

[hazy sky]

i have a slight feeling the dying camera is a bit too dramatic

[azure flume]

needs a visible ragdoll flying around at the same time!

[muted stirrup]

left yeah

[hazy sky]

https://tenor.com/view/gmod-garrysmod-halflife2-hl2-ragdoll-gif-27129887

[azure flume]

Yes!

[cunning wing]

big head cheat is required by law

[hazy sky]

chat what is happening on my screen

what is this chat

[hazy sky]

how

[pure jackal]

SEX

[hazy sky]

unfortunately it is 4 am

[pure jackal]

GUH

[pastel wharf]

He cooked

[hazy sky]

i just realized that at one point i'll also have to rename the guns

[wraith beacon]

Uuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhh

[hazy sky]

nice particles

are they all particles suspended in the air and scatter once you shoot them or

[wraith beacon]

There are no particles.

It's vertex shaders.

No physics, no particles, just a static mesh that has pivots store in the uvs and is then sent a time and location value for the actual shattering.

[hazy sky]

how the fuck can shaders create 3d objects

[wraith beacon]

It's not generating geometry at runtime or anything, just moving around the vertices that're already there.

[hazy sky]

oh

thought it was a texture

and it would automatically cut out any hexagons

using a sort of mask or threshold

[wraith beacon]

Nah it's all prefragmented.

Vertex shaders aren't smart enough to do that.

[wraith beacon]

Also fun visualizer.

[hazy sky]

made the cool vector logo for the gun

and yet, it was all in vain,,,

wouldn't look too bad if the surface area was bigger

[hazy sky]

I really have to further simplify the model,,,

if I didn't have to texture the other side, I'd win so much more detail on the other side

but the substance painter as we know it, is a fucking pussy and won't bake the maps if your model is Payday 3 levels of done

[wraith beacon]

I feel like the implication of a manufacturer mark would suffice with the art style.

[hazy sky]

as in?

of course it would, it's part of the gun tbh

but if it looks like a scrambled set of pixels then it's not implication, it's just mess

[wraith beacon]

Then simplify it as much as possible, drop the text, just focus on the big shape.

[hazy sky]

nah tho I really have to redo the unwrap or seam the model better because this is at 512 resolution

the MP40 for example is a 256 texture

[wraith beacon]

Fair.

[hazy sky]

and it looks even better detailed

problem is, the MP40 is pretty round

it's easy to unwrap and staying organic

this is a big rectangle

with a pipe and a broom handle extruding on each side

I could mirror the handle

that would give me some more space

[wraith beacon]

Do try and keep texel density between props consistent tho or I will be mildly annoyed.

[hazy sky]

it is consistent

it's just the tiny details that look the worst

because of even chunky pixels

[granite tusk]

oh fuck that looks so cool

[wraith beacon]

uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh

[granite tusk]

pov you're a hamster and you're in a cardboard jail

[wraith beacon]

Lol lmao

[hazy sky]

let's say it's done

[pure jackal]

Is this for ttr

[pure jackal]

Mr solace
Mr sex

[wraith beacon]

Prolly not.

[thorny iron]

H

H

H

H
H

H

HH

H

H

oops

[pure jackal]

what

anyways uhhh

the notorious wakers

[drowsy escarp]

How in the hell do you handle weapon movesets for beat em ups/hack n slashes in godot?

[wraith beacon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/509998369544863744/1231782874026475561/2024-04-22_13-43-41.mp4?ex=66383632&is=6625c132&hm=92362ba18d177a8fb98340c8fa93e281fe031cc95612342f6545457f9f20eac8&

[hazy sky]

the flood !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[hazy sky]

its shit i have to redo the entire thing

[hazy sky]

okay chat what do we think now

[earnest lily]

achtung

[hazy sky]

okay so

added the final details as well

we are finally there

RTX footage

nah though for real, this is how it looks proper

[earnest lily]

12 rounds?!

[hazy sky]

misinput

only wanted 10

now to move onto the sounds...

what if it sounded similar to the RE4 original's Red 9

[hazy sky]

how does this sound like

i may ditch the entire arm rig deal though, each set of guns will have it's own arm

and that's the end of it tbh

i'll figure out another way to skin the arms to new textures or models if you have a different player model

[hazy sky]

dig it so far

what if autofire

[earnest lily]

you're missing a super micro tiny detail

https://youtu.be/bC7Vrutcm6c?feature=shared&t=6

🥺

the top half is supposed to travel backwards ever so slightly

[hazy sky]

i did notice it was on a sort of rail when modeling it

[earnest lily]

otherwise me likey, already has some nice flow

[hazy sky]

no chat i'm not going to go back, modify the rig, import the thing all over into godot just to animate the top part nudging back slightly when firing

[earnest lily]

boooo

[hazy sky]

are you cappy now @earnest lily

what if i decoupled the top part from the model and animated it using a tween that has a random float so the bouncing is always different

[earnest lily]

kino

[hazy sky]

ignore the arm model, created a new one that looks similar but i still need to fucking unwrap it and shit

i might have to reduce the hand movement a bit

but i like it's cartoony movement

[blissful arch]

not much but i changed the input class to output a movement vector (wsad) along with the camera rotation (mouse)

ofc z position changes with qe independent of the camera rotation

and camera rotation is applied using quaternions

all using glfw

[hazy sky]

okay so made my own hand texture

some inspiration from medal of honor

although it is slightly higher poly than the OG

lemme cap a quick comparison

first one is the OG, the c96 one is my own model, own texture

[azure flume]

needs more rotation, barrel doesn't rise high enough, looks super strange

[pure jackal]

Solace my man you have mastered an aesthetic I dub "rose tinted glasses"

That looks as good as I rememver MOH guns looking through my nostalgia of playing the games 15+ years ago

[hazy sky]

is this good my man

[azure flume]

that's not how recoil works

[hazy sky]

one major difference to the old arm is that mine is fully modeled cinematic mod style

also hand painted

[hazy sky]

also its not supposed to be realistic

its supposed to look good

[azure flume]

why not both

[hazy sky]

but you know what, i'll add in some spin just for you

[azure flume]

im not asking for realism, im asking for not completely breaking the laws of physics

It still has to look "believable"

[hazy sky]

now we masters of recoil

[earnest lily]

your hands fits way better

Oh I just saw the new clip

[hazy sky]

obviously, it's my own art style on both the gun and the hand

there isn't a clash like with the old hand new gun

[earnest lily]

for the recoil animation, I'm tempted to make a suggestion so that the weapon motion reads better

[hazy sky]

i'm listening actually

[earnest lily]

let me sketch it out

Give reducing the vertical motion of the hand a shot

and try substituting some of that jump with some wrist pivoting

[hazy sky]

let me visualize the problem

[earnest lily]

the main thing I see is that since it jumps up and "moves out of the eye-area" - as I call it - as soon as you pull the trigger, you kinda don't get to catch the bolt going backwards

[hazy sky]

pivot

but yeah i get what you mean

i'll give it a frame or two down time so you get to see the bolt

[earnest lily]

ohh I see is the arm static?

then yeah try the layered approach and perhaps delay the vertical jump actually

still I really like where you're headed. Gives it some nice liveliness without being overblown

and I really like how you're paying homage to the offscreen reloads

[hazy sky]

i mean i could try and make a rig

problem is i have no idea how to use bezier keyframes with bones in godot

[earnest lily]

I see, are you animating inside godot itself? I never actually tried that

I know Unreal lets you mess with keys and save it out to animations

[hazy sky]

i'll be paying more to those, gonna make a stripper clip fall out as you're moving the gun back into the screen

[hazy sky]

godot allows you to do the same thing

[tropic token]

This looks like a shitpost

[earnest lily]

[tropic token]

Just the arm with a gun

[hazy sky]

let me try a different placement

okay so

how is this

[fickle zinc]

eh its decent

[pure jackal]

Now its too little

You can't add a wrist bone to the rig?

[hazy sky]

maybe

but then i lose the capability to add easing in godot

man

why are the animations inside blender so choppy

[earnest lily]

couple of three things

Framerate, constant interpolation

[hazy sky]

that is literally the only reason i'm not animating inside blender

[earnest lily]

it's a really long topic to get into but most games are animated at 30fps and the engine interpolates between frames so they don't chop at 144fps or whatever you're rendering them at

clicky this little fella

put the bwoy at 30fps

these are the Real New Blood Discord Regular Fact Checked settings I use ( clip taken from my personal first person thug'em'up )

[hazy sky]

i did set it to 30 frames

would be cooler if it automatically interpolated to 60 tho

it distracts me enough to not want to use it

[hazy sky]

okay so

importing everything into godot returns errors to me

"bone contains unnormalized quarternions"

i have no idea what that means

someone give me a hand because i have zero fucking idea how to put the hand in the arm inside blender

[hazy sky]

okay so before i delve any deeper, this might be a point of reconsideration in terms of the animations implementation

any help is more than welcome because the whole godot-to-blender process is gonna be so fucking wack

like before, i could just pause the scene, edit a few keyframes, restart the scene but now i gotta export like 452 times to make sure it looks good

[hazy sky]

fuck you chat timesplitters' your gun

[merry lotus]

some ideas for the gloomwood dungeon crawler

i don't know if they're good or not (especially the quick time event thing)

[pure jackal]

What format are you trying to get out of godot and put into blender

Dae or fbx

[hazy sky]

wym fbx

Godot outright discontinued support for fbx since 4.x

gltf2

I love doing rounds though, just saw at least two other games in the Godot discord server using a simulated magazine on the side as well

by the time my game comes out, it'll be a cheap knockoff

sort of like unrecord

[granite tusk]

what kind of dungeon crawler? Grid based one ?

[hazy sky]

dungeon based crawler

[hazy sky]

is there a way to reliably animate in 60 FPS inside of blender, so its smooth and then export in 30?

[hazy sky]

WHY

whenever i set the pistol as the bone attachment, it just flings 90 degrees down

[azure flume]

Getting close to the concept art you posted here^ !

[hazy sky]

i have 0 idea why it's overwriting the rotation here

the problem is, the animation player is constantly settings it's rotation back

no it's not even that

something else is fucking it up

[hazy sky]

i cannot figure it out

bet y'all said "yo lets prank this fucker by making him troubleshoot the most easily overlooked problem ever"

[hazy sky]

the reload and stuff look better, but trying to overcomplicate the firing with the wrist movement doesn't make it as punchy

[pure jackal]

Ok is THIS gonna be used for ttr?

[pure jackal]

Does godot have frame interpolation styles like blender and unity?

Back interpolations really good for snappy/punchy movement

[wraith beacon]

Still highly unlikely.

[pure jackal]

😠

[earnest lily]

[pure jackal]

I think the movement of the hand going back from recoil should be faster

give it a try?

[hazy sky]

as in?

does this look better?

[pure jackal]

bit faster?

specifically the frames of the hand going backwards from the recoil, not it returning to the resting state

[hazy sky]

it is already faster

let me see a bit later i'm mixing sounds for the next gun

[pure jackal]

Okay

[hazy sky]

fuck

wait

feels a bit better with the kick of the first gun just you wait

okay fuck wait again

now its the correct video

[azure flume]

Looking pretty good!

[hazy sky]

thanks

finally got everything working

[azure flume]

The empty trigger pulls move the weapon a bit too much, perhaps cut that distance in half, if the weapon moves that much without recoil your aim must be really potato

I mean the movement in left-right direction, not the other directions

[hazy sky]

i mean you're not COD johnson

that's the plot of the game

you're a resistance member, not a trained fighter

but i'll tone it down

i just had it extra heavy since its a double action pistol

[azure flume]

trained or not, weapons behave similarly no matter who pulls the trigger

[hazy sky]

did you try pulling a stiff trigger before

that shit is hard

plus its more about visibly telling the player that they are out

[azure flume]

I've pulled all kinds

None made me aim at the dude on my left

[hazy sky]

well, this will

i'm just so fucking lazy to import it again and set up everything

[earnest lily]

KINO

[hazy sky]

love the misfire at the end of the video tho

gotta make some checks to see if i can fire again or not

even though i'm already doing that tho

got some bigger tasks at hand tho

[hazy sky]

i really hate drawing hands

[slate python]

I really love drawing hands <3

[merry lotus]

why draw hands when you can just do this

[hazy sky]

realized the hand is hella out of proportions

probably why i cannot make it look good

the palm looks so good like

and then there's me trying to figure shit out on the other side

why does it look so bad

am i stuck in an eternal hell of drawing hands

like fuck man, the other arm model was much more complex shaped and that came out perfectly

[pure jackal]

Where's the bullet confetti from the gun itself

And I think an issue is the fingers are a lil too lonf?

[hazy sky]

trying to, but i don't know how to work the gpu particles

[pure jackal]

😦

[merry lotus]

i'm not sure what really goes as a grid based dungeon crawler

but i still haven't really decided on how i'm gonna generate levels (mainly because they're all equally hard) so

[hazy sky]

yeah it simply doesn't want to stay inside the player's coordinates

also cannot make it eject one at a time

unless i just instance a new scene every time i fire

chat

how the fuck do i remove changes i made in pose mode

i cannot clear user transforms

[pure jackal]

Control Z

[rough sundial]

Had to use TTS at some point

https://youtu.be/aF7vzSdobWc

[earnest lily]

alt+g / alt+r / alt+s not working with bones selected?

[hazy sky]

didn't try yet

saw what the hands looked like when trying to pose them and got dissatisfied

i'll redo the entire thing

[merry lotus]

making a font atlas for blood drive (which i'm now considering calling Dead End)

is there a better way to do this? right now i'm assigning each character in my atlas a specific index which will be used to find the letter on the atlas

[hazy sky]

man

where do you even find good fonts like that

[merry lotus]

i made it myself with some references from the quake 1 font (mainly the A and the X)

[sly ocean]

What if you made a string "ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ1234567890"? then you simply get the string at that index (eg. string[8] to get 'I')

[merry lotus]

oh that's a good idea

thanks

[sly ocean]

👍

[merry lotus]

i feel like i'm getting somewhere

[hazy sky]

i just realized i don't need a new audio stream player in godot for every new sound

you can literally change the sound on the go with an animation player

[merry lotus]

it's kinda working

yaaay

[sly ocean]

What game is this?

[merry lotus]

my own game

[sly ocean]

oh neat!

[merry lotus]

name is undecided but I'm either going for Blood Drive or Dead End

[sly ocean]

Do you use unity?

[merry lotus]

I did

and I still kinda do because I'm working on a gloomwood and a fallen aces fangame on the side

this is made using Java and LWJGL though

[sly ocean]

ah

[merry lotus]

fixed aspect ratio + centered text that only works for this string only for some reason + symbols

[limber bramble]

hell yeah font rendering

[limber bramble]

Blood Drive was a cool name conceptually but I think Dead End is more fitting

more informative of what the game is perhaps

[pure jackal]

DEADИƎ

[slim lance]

@pure jackal, please keep all discussions in English.

[pure jackal]

Damb

[rotund garden]

https://www.humblebundle.com/software/blender-core-skillsthe-ultimate-blender-basics-bundle-software?hmb_source=&hmb_medium=product_tile&hmb_campaign=mosaic_section_1_layout_index_3_layout_type_threes_tile_index_2_c_blendercoreskillstheultimateblenderbasicsbundle_softwarebundle

15 dollars

[slim lance]

@granite lintel, please keep all discussions in English.

[hazy sky]

@slender knoll can you work some magic on this fool

ok nvm

[slender knoll]

pussy in bio

[azure flume]

deadie?

or deadiz?

yeah, perhaps use english letters

[azure flume]

But do you want to load the sound every time or would it be better to keep it in memory? Think of the potatos.

[hazy sky]

wym

it is loaded inside the animation player

did you read what i just said

[hazy sky]

man

i really have to redo the entire arm

i asked people on how to limit a sound's sample rate to 22050 and they listed me 53 complicated methods on how to do so like using a limiter or an EQ to filter out any sound above a certain hz

then i found the option to do it in two clicks inside fl studio

[hazy sky]

new reload sounds, more pronounced movement of the top-side of the gun

plus the slide slams shut at the end of the anim

problem is, it won't be so easy animating the bigger guns

[earnest lily]

Brothers in Honor : Road to Kino

[hazy sky]

i still haven't figured out a name yet

got something like Dawn of Defiance or something but i was like meh

lame

[hazy sky]

also they sorta do

the hands do not reset though

[earnest lily]

let me reiterate how much I genuinely appreciate you taking all the feedback in, in spite of frustration

👑

[hazy sky]

i really like feedback, it's how we improve

it's another thing trying to juggle ALL of the feedback and find a middle ground to please everyone's suggestions

[azure flume]

I agree, way too generic and unmemorable

[hazy sky]

exactly

just sounds like day of defeat

like who remembers that game

[azure flume]

I remember the name but that game was very similar to like 10 others and I have no clue which is which

I love 'Blood Drive' though, great name!

[hazy sky]

yea

reminds me of Harvester

jerma live action game from the 90's

oh

okay i could delete the pose now

i had a sneaky keyframe at 0

i fucking suck so much at weight painting it's almost comical

[hazy sky]

is there some way to make the rig keep the volume of itself?

like for example when rolling the wrist, it becomes extremely creased

[hazy sky]

chat im gonna download an arm rig idc at this point

[jade sonnet]

real

[hazy sky]

after like an hour of weight painting i decided fuck it and simplified the model

except i didn't see i deleted half of the palm

then mirrored the model to make it whole

and realized like 30 minutes later

and my last save is like 2 hours ago, before any of the weight painting

[azure flume]

I too love blender

[hazy sky]

start from square 1

[pure jackal]

Nah man pass me the blend let me try

In like 3 days

[merry lotus]

trigger_counter functionality (try to ignore me falling through the floor at the end i removed a part of the player controller code a while ago and forgot to add it back in)

[pure jackal]

Bruh

[hazy sky]

i'll send you tomorrow after i fixed up the textures

[pure jackal]

Okay

[hazy sky]

I think I figured out why it looks off though

took a closer look at the original models and my hand model's fingers are equally thick

they look like a shovel

also holy fuck man

people from different discord servers are hyping my game up now

shit's getting real,,,

[rotund garden]

as they should lol a medal of honor like is a really cool idea

[hazy sky]

really makes me wonder why aren't there more like it

its not like a new idea, the core gameplay loop is pretty simple

then again, calling an fps game moh-like is kind of a vague term

what defines moh is the overall playful feel and essence of the game

maybe playful is not the best term to describe it, but it's not like extra gorefest with hyperrealistic weapon animations

also @pure jackal i'll send the arms tomorrow, was hella tired tonight and i feel like if i started working on it again i'd just stay up until morning

[earnest lily]

different things make us click really. The one I feel personally closest to for example is rtcw

[hazy sky]

i feel ya

but i have the one difference of having the PS2 rtcw closest to me in the series

and 2009

in this order probably

[pure jackal]

Wolf09 was my first wolfenstein game

[hazy sky]

it was REALLY good though

or at least i really liked it

[pure jackal]

It is really good

[hazy sky]

simply the feel and vibe of the game is just unmatched still to this day

it essentially boils down to first person indiana jones and i really love it

doesn't help the fact that me and my cousin watched the entire indy saga that same time

wolf09-like next,,,,

no not really

if i were to develop the game after this one, it'd probably be the beat em up type game i wanted to do first

streets of rage + god hand + fighting force + 3-4 player co-op is a good match i think

also i'm not sure if anyone remembers, been a while i showed it off but the main menu has a co-op option in the mohlike game for a reason,,,,

developing it with split screen co-op in mind

i know jack shit about networking though so that'll be probably sorted out later

but i feel like through the steam share play/parsec, the multiplayer campaign can be a good deal

[azure flume]

Why is wolf09 not back on steam yet, microsoft owns all the rights to it now 😦

[hazy sky]

they're just not sure they would make any profit off of it now i guess

you know it costs money to list a game on steam

[sour bobcat]

anyone do mod commissions? for ultrakill

[pure jackal]

#ultrakill-modding its RIGHT THERE COME ON

[sour bobcat]

i asked there goofy

[merry lotus]

model didn't really come out the way I wanted but good enough imo

inspired by the dance with the dead out of body album art

[limber bramble]

hell yea

i like its ghoulish pose

reminds me vaguely of this prick https://media.moddb.com/images/members/2/1039/1038539/ao_phantasmsplit.png

[azure flume]

It's already listed, just need to make it purchasable again.

https://steamcommunity.com/app/10170/

[spare scarab]

a whopping 100 dollars

[azure flume]

How could a shitty game from 2009 possibly earn that back

[spare scarab]

"shitty"

you are my mortal enemy

[fickle zinc]

it can

and its going to

100 dollars is not alot to earn back

[azure flume]

No, nobody will buy it.

[fickle zinc]

you sure about that

lets see what general has to say

[azure flume]

you should ask ultrakill

[hazy sky]

i mean the people who are interested in the game are probably owning a copy, it's a janky game from 2009, i doubt it would generate much revenue

[hazy sky]

ok at least 3 people will buy it

[spare scarab]

I would buy it

I didn't even know it was on steam till it was delisted

[blissful arch]

finally got some models into my engine

[merry lotus]

clearer view of the stitch model

yes the hands are thumbs are intentionally supposed to be on the wrong side it's not like i didn't notice until i was animating it or anything

[merry lotus]

hell yeah

what are you making it in

[blissful arch]

just a game engine

oh sorry

opengl

[merry lotus]

what language

[blissful arch]

c

[merry lotus]

oh sick

[blissful arch]

it's actually really nice

one thing i don't like is how i have to handle arrays using pointers

which leads to me storing an array "start" position in memory and the array length

and unless i wanna reallocate memory every time i add an element then i have to stick to that

but really that's the only hard part about it

everything else is cool

[tranquil oracle]

Yeah it's pretty much unavoidable in C

Since there is no real array type, it just decays to a pointer

[unique trellis]

you made a game engine?? that’s so cool!

[blissful arch]

i wouldn't call it that yet

more like a renderer right now

[blissful arch]

it's even more renderey now

[hazy sky]

no way

[strong stump]

What’s the mod that has the “mayo%” thing in the sidebar. I like it but I don’t know what it’s called so I can’t mod my ULTRAKILL to have it I know it has more than mayo% I just forgot what it’s called

[marble dust]

have you tried asking there

[strong stump]

Ah no, thx

[hazy sky]

triggers placed

also reworked a lot of stuff in the background to make things clearer plus decoupled plenty of stuuff

(there's a target_node variable that allows for destruction, i'm just lazy to add a giant hole in the wall)

[fickle zinc]

i was thinking what if you added wolfenstien elements to the game

also like how side missions in medal of honor had like scifi elements

[hazy sky]

i am thinking about that

SOME scifi

the bonus campaigns will have stuff that are too wacky for the main campaign though

like outright joke campaigns

[merry lotus]

https://vxtwitter.com/ThePlaz42/status/1784287052655157704?t=MOLSYyVEVbfHg37U185UeQ&s=19

[hazy sky]

i love it when godot has a breakpoint before it can load any graphics

i like the art style ngl

[hazy sky]

.

oh, new material for the revolver plus the shell casings, they really tie the gun together

oh yeah

the flying hot brass ties everything together so nicely

[earnest lily]

can't wait to watch you blast nazis

[hazy sky]

why watch me

i wanna do a demo sometime in the future

just polishing up whatever i can before adding the enemies

[earnest lily]

[hazy sky]

i really think a month or two is all i need to properly tie up everything into a playable state

depends on how much time i'll get after work hours

[azure flume]

you are underestimating the amount of work proper enemy ai takes lol

took you a year to get this far and now you think you can finish in a month?

[hazy sky]

i essentially restarted the entire project from scratch less than a month ago

it took me at least 3 weeks to get here

where do you think another 3 weeks will get me

[azure flume]

redoing stuff you have done before takes far less time than making new stuff

[hazy sky]

bruh

my last try didn't have half as many stuff as the recent one

everything is done differently, more efficiently, and new as well

i'm taking everything i've learned so far and implementing, while learning new stuff

i mean sure, on the screen, not much is visible from all these changes but when you lift the hood, everything is different

[hazy sky]

this might be it

deforms much nicer

unwraps better as well

[hazy sky]

chatum

i'd like your opinions

why does this look so shit compared to the palm

[hazy sky]

kinda better

can't imagine the shit that ancient devs had to go through just to texture a simple hand

[merry lotus]

which enviroment textures look better

[pure jackal]

Handy

[pure jackal]

The walls don't seem to have the same dithering(?) As the floor texture so the right one fits more, maybe if you added the effect to the walls it's fit better?

[azure flume]

never liked dithering

but i guess its better than piss filter games

[hazy sky]

bruh

my rig worked fine until it didn't

after i added the IK and controller bones, the fingers distort all over the place

why

[fickle zinc]

you weight painted correctly?

[hazy sky]

like i said, it worked fine before

i didn't touch it since

[fickle zinc]

do any of the bones have similar names

[hazy sky]

pretty sure it should do that

same rig but without the IK shit

i might just say fuck it and animate it without IK,,,

like this is giving me way too much trouble once again

following the fucking tutorial step by step over and over and it literally behaves all over the place unlike in the video

[earnest lily]

did you add a second set of bones for IK ?

[hazy sky]

second set of what

no i didn't

the tutorial doesn't anything like that and it works fine for him

i tried using the rigify addon but i said fuck that halfway through because it added so much shit, and removed my finger bones entirely

[fickle zinc]

wait you used rigify

[hazy sky]

yeah, the armature

didn't generate the rigify rig

[fickle zinc]

as in the pregenerated ones

[hazy sky]

metarig

[fickle zinc]

wait did they remove rigify in blender 4.1?

[fickle zinc]

well i cant really access meta rig since i think they might have removed it for blender 4.1

[hazy sky]

enable it in addons

[fickle zinc]

ok yeah i found that out

turns out they might have disabled it

so are you trying to use an entire pregenerated skeleton from metarig

or are you trying to make your own

like if meta rig isnt working i would maybe suggest mixamo or accurig

[hazy sky]

mixamo for what

its an entire left arm

[pure jackal]

mixamo would do worse

[hazy sky]

plus the problem is that mixamo needs an entire model

and it doesn't do an accurate weight paint

rigify isn't the problem though

[merry lotus]

reworking the gloomwood dungeon generation system

again

i'm making it so that every room is a prefab so that decoration is easier and support for multiple room sizes

the way that it works is that it generates the starting room, generates a random number of exits from the starting room, and iterates over every exit and adds rooms until we meet the amount of rooms we specify

after all rooms are generated we block off exits that we didn't use

at least that's how it works now it might change in the future

[rich burrow]

ultra ricoshot with a shotgun

when

[merry lotus]

obviously I'm gonna keep the levels smaller than this but it looks cool

[cunning wing]

1/1,000 chance to be cast into the megaconstruct

[wraith beacon]

That's some good shit right there 🫡

[granite tusk]

looking coool

[hazy sky]

can you elaborate on the logic you used here

I kinda wanna have proc gen levels in one of my side modes and it would be cool to have some understanding of it

[merry lotus]

so each room is a prefab that has a bounding box that's calculated using the min and max of all the mesh collider's bounds in the room (this'll be explained later)

each room has a set amount of exits, each exit has the point where the exit is, which direction it's going, and a GameObject that blocks the exit, the reason for which will also be explained later

the level generator has an array of rooms, and the first index always contains the room that'll be spawned first

the level generator spawns that room at the world origin, and then chooses a random number between 1 and 4 to choose how many rooms will protrude from the starting room (this was added because a bunch of seeds only had one chain of rooms coming out of the starting room)

after spawning rooms around the starting room, the level generator then chooses a random room to grow from, and it chooses a random exit to check

the level generator spawns a room at the world origin and then based on the direction of the exit we chose, chooses the exit in our spawned room that's the opposite direction, and then translates the room based on that position (i did the translation using this)

after the room is placed, we check the spawned room's bounding box with all the bounding boxes in the rooms we've spawned to check for overlaps
if there are overlaps, then destroy the spawned room and try again at a different location
if there isn't, then add the room to a list of rooms that we've created for testing bounding boxes with other rooms when they're generated

after we've generated enough rooms, then bake the navmesh and iterate over every exit and if it isn't connected to another room, enable the blocker we set for that exit so that the player can't go out of bounds

and that's pretty much it

[hazy sky]

new font chat

[slim lance]

@jovial trail, please keep all discussions in English.

[hazy sky]

your code is now stolen, I will make a WW2 themed Due Process clone

[hazy sky]

hmmmmmmmm

there is potential

however i need to redo the texture a little bit to look more organic

chat

now is the deciding point

should I break tradition and have complex reloads

e.g sequential reload for shotguns, one in the chamber mechanic, "tactical" reloads

or have shotguns reload all at a time regardless of ammo in the tube

and have no empty reloads

[azure flume]

How does the game you are emulating do it?

And do you feel that it's not good in the original game and needs a change?

[hazy sky]

listen

I already made a fully working cylinder mechanic for the revolvers

at this point I might as well go big or go home

that's just me, that's why I'm asking for feedback if it's too much or not

I like little details

[azure flume]

Going big is always the better option!

(I have not played the original game so I have no clue how it's done there)

[hazy sky]

@pure jackal mfer I need your opinion or else

[hazy sky]

one reload anim per gun

shotguns load all at once, no empty chamber reloads etc

@wraith beacon are you on

can you gimme some tips about two handed weapon anims

i want the left hand to grip the gun, but also be able to let go so the weapon doesn't follow it anymore

hatsu is not online,,,

we are all doomed

[hazy sky]

@earnest lily you on?

fuck

[blissful arch]

just got basic materials working (texture + tint)

[hazy sky]

can you do viewmodel animations

[blissful arch]

not sure what that means

you mean per mesh animations?

instead of on the whole model?

[hazy sky]

i wanna do two handed animations but the tutorial i followed separates the gun and the arms

[blissful arch]

well to answer the three questions at once i can't do animations yet no

[hazy sky]

which wouldn't be a problem but the gun influences the arms when firing, so i would have to call two animation players inside godot just to fire once

[blissful arch]

i haven't really done importing models with a parent-child relationship for each of the meshes

[hazy sky]

yeah

[blissful arch]

instead i just have a vertex buffer which i pipe into opengl

is self advertising allowed here

[hazy sky]

depends on what and how it is advertised

[blissful arch]

github repo

lol im not even sure if im ready for "advertising" i don't even have basic lighting

[pure jackal]

I'm sorry I was working whats the scoop bossman

If you want to have fancier reloads (empty and non-empty) its ultimately up to you on how far you want to take the "lost medal of honor 3" aesthetic behind the game

If you want to keep in style with the psx limitations you could try and make it have one reload animation but have the gun return to idle for a single frame before the "chambering" part and simply have the non-empty reloads not play the full animation, though idk how that would look

[earnest lily]

ayo... try not to ping

👁️

[hazy sky]

why not 🔫

[earnest lily]

.

[hazy sky]

.

[earnest lily]

Anyways.

did you figure it out?

I got some time to spare

[hazy sky]

well, kinda

[earnest lily]

this + the hand separation part

[hazy sky]

parented the gun to the arm rig so they're still different objects

and set the gun to be a child of the arm rig's root

and set influence here and there

not sure how viable it's gonna be

[earnest lily]

Fair enough - you're on the right track I reckon. I usually have a "grip" bone in my arms rig and parent the weapon's root to that, so I can swap hands n shit in animation

like yeah if you need to have weapon mechanics and stuff you still need two separate animation calls but at least the gun won't float

[hazy sky]

i kinda only have one arm here

the left

you won't see the right hand anyways

and if anything i can just reuse the pistol's arm

[earnest lily]

as for this - have you played around with bone constraints in Blender?

[hazy sky]

my brother in christ i have never animated SHIT in blender before

this is my first exposure to any lively animations

[earnest lily]

Gotta be out here googlin man

u feel me?

[fickle zinc]

oh

[earnest lily]

I have to go in 2 min otherwise I'd try and sum it up in a quick video

[hazy sky]

no worries

maybe i'll figure it out tomorrow

[earnest lily]

but Bone constraints / "Child Of" constraint / "copy Transform" constraint is a good start for some reading

[hazy sky]

child of is working right now

only problem is making the magazine a child of the hand is kinda finnicky so far

its like the movements are applied twice

so i guess i'll animate it separately or something

[earnest lily]

I think I know what you're running into - the weapon is parented to the arms you said?

[hazy sky]

yeah

and using IK

[earnest lily]

yeah I think you're getting double transforms due to the hierarchy

[hazy sky]

might be

but i think i can make do

[earnest lily]

I had something similar with character models wher IK controllers were children of the root, and I made them follow the spine using constraints

[hazy sky]

why is this stupid gun so fucking sexy

[hazy sky]

yeah something similar

i will IK rig the gun 💀

[rough sundial]

More ARG for the game I'm developing
https://youtu.be/E1Lu25dXPJ4

[merry lotus]

interactable objects

you can click on an object when you're near it to interact and if you click on it from a distance you'll move to it and then interact with it

[hazy sky]

can you get mook for embeds

[hazy sky]

what if

split screen prop hunt

and when you lock in your spot, your screen turns to a CCTV camera feed somewhere on the level

you'd essentially have to beat your friend into submission to not peep while picking your spot tho

[hazy sky]

this simple dev level is becoming home at an alarming rate,,,

[merry lotus]

early blood particles

also gonna replace the magnum with a shotgun

[hazy sky]

this intro sequence reminds me of something

[merry lotus]

the whole game is based on Dance With The Dead and the song that i want to play in this level (if DWTD lets me) is their song Sledge

so when the level is complete (and if DWTD lets me use some of their songs) it should be like this

[hazy sky]

good old reliable, nothing beats that

[merry lotus]

stitch projectiles (with broken transparency)

[pure jackal]

THE STITCH ARE BALLING
I REPEAT
THE STITCH ARE BALLING

[merry lotus]

imo the stitch attack animation looks a lot better from the side than from the front

[wraith beacon]

Messing with this again.

[fading fox]

U makin a game?

[blissful arch]

om nom nom

[azure flume]

The channel name is misleading, everyone in here is making a game.

No modders to be found

[dry spear]

https://vxtwitter.com/billybob_c10781/status/1786014941087948932 stress testing went well....

[blissful arch]

ah yep

[blissful arch]

im fucking goated

[hazy sky]

i'm fucking floated

its all coming together chat,,,

https://youtu.be/wUwo3yyW9yg?si=6IGgPtDRKqAWvyf0&t=55

holy shit

looking at it like this, it was brutal

i never could expect gore from Medal of Honor

dude straight up gets torn apart by explosions

plus holy fuck the combat looks more like timesplitters here

[pure jackal]

HE'S DOING IT

[pure jackal]

Holy shit fully modeled Thompson

Wonder why they cut that

[limber bramble]

yoooo the sounds make it so crunchy

glorious

[pure jackal]

Qlso holy shit I just noticed thee BULLET CONFETTI from the revolver

[blissful arch]

custom material properties

[granite tusk]

drafting my 4th level, this takes time

[hot sequoia]

What font is that? 👀

[hazy sky]

did you also see the other video a while back where the cylinder is simulated

and that only the spent casings are ejected

[pure jackal]

No whaaa

[hazy sky]

bruh

I had a video here where I load 3 shells, click dry fire and the bullets actually travel one chamber adjacent

so yea indexing works

[hazy sky]

.

ignore the 4x fire rate modifier

imagine if I added an arena mode with quake controls and powerups like quad fire rate

no reload for a while

double projectiles

actually I would merge no reloads into 4x fire rate tho

just make it drain your reserve ammo first

the first thing I'll do after I implemented the enemy AI is recreate NUTS inside my game

say auf wiedersehen to your nazi balls

[blissful arch]

jetbrains mono

i also have some opentype properties enabled

[hot sequoia]

Huh is it really? The letters seem vastly different to what I see in Rider, interesting. Yours seems to be more "curvey" like with ls and such. Not sure how to describe it haha.

[blissful arch]

yep that's the opentype properties i enabled

not sure if rider supports them, but these are the ones i have enabled:```json
{
"zero",
"calt",
"cv02",
"cv03",
"cv04",
"cv05",
"cv06",
"cv11",
"cv14",
"cv15",
"cv16",
"cv17",
"cv18",
"cv19",
"cv20",
}

[hot sequoia]

Seems like Rider doesn't have settings for opentype properties, how sad :/

[pure jackal]

Make it a cheevo

[merry lotus]

why does transparency have to be like this

[warm reef]

i think you should keep it like that for the bit

[hazy sky]

why don't you use alpha cutout

or alternatively use add

[merry lotus]

because i don't think it would look good with this texture

[merry lotus]

i am using add

i have no idea what is happening here

oh wait

nvm i misunderstood you

[hazy sky]

maybe

[merry lotus]

but I don't think that would look good either

[hazy sky]

ok

alpha scissor

or cutout

not sure what's the name

[pure jackal]

Alpha blend

[hazy sky]

you're alpha blend

[pure jackal]

I'm alpha bland

[hazy sky]

think i downloaded the wrong underground