general-modding

[merry lotus]

solid black

[pure jackal]

Hmm

I like it

[slate python]

Yeah its much better

[merry lotus]

there's this one part in aequor that i thought was pretty cool at first but now it just doesn't feel that scary

anybody got any ideas for what i could replace this with?

[pure jackal]

Here's my idea: have there be a crack in the wall behind the battery. Put the battery lower so the player needs to look down to it to pick it up. Once its picked up, have the eel eye be looking through the crack at the player. Maybe some light shaking and rubble, perhaps the crack gets larger? Something startling but not quite a jumpscare

[pure jackal]

Space gun fun

[merry lotus]

yeah the sound isn't that loud and the thud isn't that impactful but I can change it later

[pure jackal]

Yeyeye

[spare scarab]

now u just gotta give it some depth cuz it currently looks like the wall is paper thin

[merry lotus]

oh right

[pure jackal]

Maybe some rocks in the crack that fall when the shake happens

[rotund garden]

based based based

[lyric orchid]

hey

is there anywhere i can get the ultrakill hud images

im trying to make a tf2 hud for it

theres no way im gonna do it correctly but its worth a shot

[vivid lichen]

I will watch your career with great interest

sadly Idk where the hud images are

[pastel wharf]

You'll have more luck asking in #ultrakill-modding

[lyric orchid]

alright
ty people

[lyric orchid]

I ended up just screenshotting the hud with a white background from the fog sandbox

i have used 10 different background removal tools but I cant seem to get rid of the grey fog in the background

honestly didnt think that it would be this annoying to do

[signal wind]

Bruh i like how this server has "no datamining" rule while modding is also usually requires being able to datamine game you want to mod

[tranquil oracle]

It's about intent, it basically just means "if you find shit that hasn't been announced yet, don't go and spoil people"

[signal wind]

[blissful arch]

cant wait to debug this bullshit

[pastel wharf]

Oh you already started testing multiplayer?

[blissful arch]

quite some time ago yeah

it's a good chunk of the game's functionality

[pastel wharf]

I was waiting for you to ping after you asked if people wanted to test lol

[cloud bloom]

baskert ball

[azure flume]

1 x 1 metre

[rotund garden]

https://vxtwitter.com/NewbloodKart/status/1692962703273304551

[cloud onyx]

Has anyone worked wit "wit" before? If so how do I fix syntax error 108?

[fast vault]

Learned about this new free animation library for humanoid animations
https://github.com/readyplayerme/animation-library

[merry lotus]

aequor is finished

now i just gotta wait until eek3 to release it

[cunning wing]

aequor sweep

[misty sparrow]

this is fucking cancer

[rotund garden]

you're welcome

[pure jackal]

Fnnuy

[pastel wharf]

Can't wait to play this year's best horror game after banban4

[rich wind]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1083514010676232243/1142843780844769300/image.png

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1693559009553350849 👀

[fast vault]

Beautiful waterall

[pure jackal]

WOO YEAH WOO YEAH WOO

[wraith beacon]

Updated the waterfall texture a bit.

[pure jackal]

cascading

[fast vault]

Very peaceful

[somber fossil]

looks cool

[merry lotus]

dialogue system

[azure flume]

Turns out Aquor is a visual novel

[merry lotus]

you can fuck the fish

[stoic smelt]

[slate python]

Get your monies for making the best fish fucking game on the market, Plaz.

[ruby fable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711551818194485259/1144069663261728809/23_20-43-02_PM.mp4

silly slime boss

music and code by me, sprites from a texture pack i found :3

[rich wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHaNaKAGBoQ

[humble dagger]

Anyone else really frustrated with Godot

I feel like I keep tripping on fundamental engine issues

Like the key hook to my game doesn't seem to work and it's a months long bug report on the GitHub page

[azure flume]

For me it's mostly skill issue

If I can ignore the broken physics engine that allows things to fall through the floor 👺

[pseudo cipher]

godot moment

[fast vault]

Man, I could've had a much easier time with making this level load and save system if I didn't allow players to load checkpoints from the menu

...should've just forced them to play each level from the beginning...

[earnest lily]

saving and loading

🫂

[humble dagger]

For whatever reason in the latest version of Godot view ports just don't work

Like you cannot make a viewport material. It just breaks. Which is funny, as that's the main system I'm using for everything

[humble dagger]

Once you get it you get it but it's such a pain

You just have to implement all of the members twice in unity. Like that's the secret. Make a class that stores all the data your normal class does, and can unpack/pack itself.

[tranquil oracle]

The fancy terminology for that is a DTO (data transfer object)

[humble dagger]

I did not know that, neat

[fast vault]

Holy crap, just found this Unity blog that has a bunch of free spritesheets for vfx
https://blog.unity.com/engine-platform/free-vfx-image-sequences-flipbooks

[fast vault]

I'm debating whether or not the explosive barrels should actually be physics objects

[pure jackal]

I'd say so

[rotund garden]

The best cure for depression is kicking a red barrel and shooting it in the air

[stoic smelt]

And manslaughter

[fast vault]

What do you guys think of the barrel's explosion effect?

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1695370147458949302 boomstick go boom

[merry lotus]

very good

[slate python]

its okay but could be better.

[fast vault]

Any suggestions? I want these barrels to be mmmm finger lickin good

[pure jackal]

the barrel chunks could fly a bit further and faster

like right now the explosion itself looks and feels heavy and powerful, but the barrel chunks are flying like they've been given a good toss/ push as opposed to a sudden blast

[hard sonnet]

what game is that O_o

[humble herald]

His own

[slate python]

First, some rising smoke on the floor after the explosion. Would really make it looks nice.
Second, add more detail to the explosion particle, but I'm pretty sure its just a placeholder particle, eh?
Third, the sound. Its a little too low quality compared to every other sound, but once again, I'm sure its just a placeholder for the demonstration.
Lastly, smoke trails or fire trails on the barrel bits. I'm sure it'll make it look much better.

[inner shuttle]

making silly thimg with frens :)

[pure jackal]

Type To Reload: How Sherifs Type

[fast vault]

Updated barrels.

I'm gonna eventually tweak that fire to be more cartoony to fit the rest of our vfx

[wraith beacon]

The flipbooks feel a bit too low res.

[fast vault]

On the explosion part or the flames?

[wraith beacon]

Both.

[fast vault]

Gotcha. I was trying to keep a lot of the texture under 64x64, but I'll see if I can bump up the explosion res

[fast vault]

Anyone know how to make a simple lit shader that allows for proper transparency fading? I have this mesh here that has planes on the front, and planes on the back. I set the surface type to transparent, but when viewing it from certain angles, the far planes render over the near planes

If I set the render face to "back", then it gives the desired effects, except that everything is now flipped, which is undesired

[pure jackal]

Does "both" show up as an option

Front back then both

[fast vault]

This is what Both looks like

[cloud bloom]

Does the material allow you to change ZWriting?

[fast vault]

idk, it's just the default URP Simple Lit shader

[cloud bloom]

If you go into the debug inspector does Zwrite show up?

Should be under properties/floats if its there

[fast vault]

None that I can see

[cloud bloom]

just making sure, nothing in here?

[fast vault]

Oh, here it is

[cloud bloom]

Nice, see if changing it to 0 gives you the results you're looking for

[fast vault]

I can't change it. It doesn't let me

[cloud bloom]

rip, I'm not sure what else to do in that case :/

[fast vault]

Ah, ended up following this shader tutorial for a dithering shader instead

[pure jackal]

Looks great!

Nice and punchy

[pastel wharf]

These look awesome!

Very meaty booms

What would a chain reaction look like?

[fast vault]

At the moment, they all just explode instantly. I'll have to look into a possible delayed reaction

[fast vault]

Chain reaction

[merry lotus]

[pastel wharf]

Incredible

That's more than enough dopamine for the day

[dusk burrow]

nuclear bombs are the next step

[alpine mesa]

This makes the gremlin in my skull very happy

[muted stirrup]

https://vxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1696109896415035531 new level in progress...

[fast vault]

This is the game now

[pure jackal]

b balll

[abstract surge]

Looks hilarious

[sonic cloud]

Well, I finally publicly released the map on Workshop
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3017966242

[spare scarab]

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

im gonna download and just explore it

[merry lotus]

https://youtu.be/h3AL3QLRuZE

it's out

play it if you want

[fast vault]

That's a damn fine trailer

[azure flume]

😮 so itch allows you to sell it, but steam doesnt?

[merry lotus]

you gotta be 18+ to sell games on steam

I'm 16

[azure flume]

yeah i know

itch doesn't care who sells on their store?

[merry lotus]

I don't think so

[azure flume]

I'll buy the remastered version on Steam in 2 years, ping me when release

[merry lotus]

epic

[sudden imp]

[indigo shard]

peakquor

[sweet mural]

currently making this a concept ref sheet

[sweet mural]

wait oopsied i put this in the wrong chat

thats very intelligent of me

[humble dagger]

I gotta get a store page set up for my project somewhere but it's like

I don't even know if I'll finish it

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1696859592599220643 SMG go Brrrrrrr

[muted stirrup]

if its on steam good luck navigating the back end

its UI nightmare

[humble dagger]

I'll figure it out maybe

[fast vault]

Using LUTs is definitely a really cool way to get some quick color grading in Unity

[unique crag]

Lets mod a general chat

[weak hawk]

would a video of My Unity DooM mod project be okay to post here in general modding? no worrys if not. thanks for having me by the way im kinda new here.

[humble dagger]

I mean that sounds pretty general and it's a mod

Go for it

[weak hawk]

thanks

https://youtu.be/VBsfO4XY1Fg?si=MfpJQsxlDV9ofZNw This is A port of DooM to the PS4 using unity i am working on

here is the intro map for the doom64 version of the project. still in WIP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_h7XUivkJk

I wont flood chat but i have a blueprint script hook for a unreal engine game called alien fireteam elite programmed in 4.25 that adds first person view to the game. also am porting DN3D to duke nukem forever 2011 with a level editor and a few other tools. also made a first person view mod for red dead redemption 1 essentially programmed in C. and a bunch of other mods stuff will share a few links in the next day or so. if you checked out my vid thanks for watching, still someone new here but i hope to stick around for a wile, thanks for having me.

[pastel wharf]

https://youtu.be/VBsfO4XY1Fg?si=MfpJQsxlDV9ofZNw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r_h7XUivkJk

@weak hawk i embedded the videos for you

[hasty hollow]

print("")
end

[weak hawk]

perfect. wasnt sure why it didnt at first. thnx

[pastel wharf]

its because you lack the mook role

you should gain it after speaking here for a while

[weak hawk]

ah thats right ok. gotch

ya. ill work torwards that first

[fast vault]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JrW_PFHJdJ4

Holy hell. I thought visual coding was already kinda cumbersome. I can't even imagine the tedium of doing it all in a 3D space like Dreams

[misty sparrow]

.ban @pure pelican annoying friend of the user that spammed my dms

[slim lance]

:o: Banned da_parrot55#0 (Case #16045) (failed to message user: Cannot send messages to this user)

[misty sparrow]

lol

[earnest lily]

[sudden imp]

He’s a parrot

[merry lotus]

I don't understand how people have the ability to make stuff like this in dreams

like I saw a 3d platformer on a vinesauce stream like a year ago and if you told me that it was an indie steam game I would believe you

[rotund garden]

I remember trying Dreams, because I bought the early access to it

but since it was basically learning an entire new program, while I was already trying to learn Blender back then

I didn't even bother

• sony could announce they're shutting down it's server at any point, so why bother

[pure jackal]

didn't they announce it's not being updated anymore

[rotund garden]

yep, after some day in september it'll no longer be updated

Thank you sony, I hope making more cinematic slops is worth it

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1697938562618974349 💥

[merry lotus]

been doing some more stuff with the gloomwood fangame

probably not gonna finish it

[fast vault]

Are those shadows just using the built-in shadows? Because they look incredible

[merry lotus]

yeah they're the built in shadows

[mint hornet]

It's not worthwhile for Sony unless it's an exclusive super duper cinematic hyper realistic behind the shoulder third person game

[merry lotus]

chests + coins

[azure flume]

Add a mimic to one of the chests

[muted stirrup]

https://twitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1698651572211790046 👀

KS98 / Retrowave '84 Dev - WISHLIST ON STEAM!!! (@GameDevKS)

All will be revealed - Soon...

#Retrowave84 #IndieGame #FPS #ComingSoon

Twitter · Sep 4, 2023, 10:57 AM

[azure flume]

Is it realms deep time yet?

[muted stirrup]

30th September

[pure jackal]

Wasn't there already a realms deep this year

[azure flume]

No

[humble dagger]

Anyone got any tips for burnout

I'm so close to done on my project, like 60% there

but I just want to drop it and start another thing

[pastel wharf]

Take a break

If you're not having a good time what's the point of a passion project

Do something else in the meantime

[humble dagger]

I wanted to get it out before october

you're right, I was sort of just hoping there was a better trick

[pastel wharf]

The best trick is to have fun elsewhere

If your passion is real then the motivation will come back in due time

[fast vault]

Had some fun working on this

[pure jackal]

@reef karma BLATER SPOTTED

[reef karma]

holy fucking shit

wait i dont recognize it

[rotund garden]

dangerously based

[azure flume]

Could use some animation smoothing tho

[pure jackal]

disagree

in fact give it less smoothing

no diagonal shit pure flat square sprite movement

[merry lotus]

attacking an enemy will cause all other enemies in a radius specified per enemy to become notified of the player

[humble herald]

congrats on becoming green

[humble herald]

this looks sweet so far

[humble dagger]

I am going to just start another project that's been burning at the back of my brain

[pastel wharf]

What project?

[humble dagger]

I kind of want to do a limited enemy set basic boomer shooter, focusing on enemies being used to push and pull where the player has to move, under a Dracula's castle kind of theme. I also want to try to focus on metroidvania-esq loopback level design but we'll see if I can clear the "make enemies and guns that work" hurdle first.

[pastel wharf]

Good luck, sounds like a fun project!

[humble dagger]

Thanks. We'll see if I can get it off the ground

[pastel wharf]

How do you manage your projects btw

Do you have a to do list of some sort or do you just wing it

[humble dagger]

Oh I just wing it all

It hasn't worked yet if that's what you're asking

I haven't finished anything

[pastel wharf]

Maybe that's a reason as to why you may not finish

Winging it is fun if it's a bite sized endeavour

But for a large project it can end up being overwhelming and stop being fun

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1699430950566777258

[fast vault]

Can I make a suggestion about the impact of the shotgun? It seems to spin immediately after firing, diminishing the feeling of kickback from the recoil. Maybe have the kickback for a sec and then do the spin, that way it'll feel more powerful.

[muted stirrup]

ive toyed with it but the problem is the way ive got it scripted it wouldnt work to have a second for the recoil to be shown, however its not something ill rule out come the next round of polish since that was the original idea

[humble dagger]

I've yet to figure out how to plan a project.

Honestly a huge part of the problem for my current (previous? ) project is that I did it in Godot, which I don't know how to use effectively

I got stuff working but it's all super entangled and a huge pain to edit, and the right way to handle things feels utterly unintuitive

Honestly thinking of crawling back to Unity

[pastel wharf]

Y'know how as a programmer your job is essentially breaking down problems to solve them with code?
Basically you need to do that but with the tasks at hand.
Making them simple and easy objectives to look forward to

As for your issue with godot sadly that's just a learning curve, big projects in new environments don't tend to end well

Get familiar with your tools with mini projects (personally I've found game jams work best for this part after learning the basics)

[pastel wharf]

If you're more comfortable with it, sure

[humble dagger]

I don't think it's just a learning curve issue, I also find it's an everything issue.

[pastel wharf]

Engines don't matter as much as people like to think

[humble dagger]

Like, the documentation reads so poorly

[humble dagger]

It's a principles thing rather than an explicit like, which tool is better thing. I kind of loathe the direction Unity is going and have been looking to jump ship

[pastel wharf]

I c

Godot recently underwent a huge syntax change so that's why most of the documentation kind of sucks and this is only augmented by the lack of up to date resources

[humble dagger]

It's not even the syntax but there's just

So many undocumented massive asterisks to everything

Like, for example, viewport textures are currently 100% non functional

Or how when generating a mesh, you can only pass custom information into a shader (in a documented way) using the color vector array, which has an implicitly defined clamp between zero and one

My last project was a procgen map and I got pretty far, but I had to do a whole bunch of math to pass texture information into my shader

It's all of the problems that FOSS has, but now it's a game engine that I want to use as a development tool.

Plus there's a whole bunch of super hard implicit ways you're supposed to do stuff. For example, I know you shouldn't, but at one point in a different game's development I was trying to iterate through all objects of a specific type and calculate how far they were. Easy enough, except not at all actually.

You have to use colliders in Godot to accomplish that. It's better, and the right way to do it, but its not documented and makes development really really painful until you figure it out.

Apologies for the rant you stepped on a bit of a land mine

[pastel wharf]

Apologize for what lol

[humble dagger]

Making you read

[pastel wharf]

Oh gods smite this man for giving me information for I shall never recover from this

It's fine

Plus this is what the channel is for right?

Anyways

I'm not experienced enough to help with your troubles, I wish you luck wether you wish to crawl back to unity or to take a stab at Godot again

[humble dagger]

Let's be real, I'll probably stab at Godot

But I might try to just get a gun system and an enemy system up to see what it feels like

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1700092480753111077 boom

[merry lotus]

new map texture by @pure jackal coming in the next aequor update

[pastel wharf]

[sudden imp]

Daammnn

[fast vault]

In your opinion, what are some must-have options in the settings for an FPS game?

[pure jackal]

Customizable Bindings are platinum for a reason, but they're a nightmare to do

asides from control options, FOV is definitely a must

[azure flume]

Million copies sold yet?

[merry lotus]

so far

i've sold 8

[azure flume]

Just get markiplier to play it

[merry lotus]

ok

how

[pastel wharf]

You ask nicely

[azure flume]

But really, you get your best friend David Szszszszsyzsszmzanzki to casually mention this game to him

[merry lotus]

i sent a dm to david on twitter and he said he's gonna play it when he can

[sudden imp]

🙏

[pure jackal]

its gonna be at EEK3

[fast vault]

You could also give AlphaBetaGamer a send

[pure jackal]

hopefully that should give plaz a nicxe boost

[merry lotus]

brb gonna spend the next hour figuring out what to say

actually i'm gonna wait until after it's updated to send him a key

[marble dust]

gleefully awaiting markiplier playing aequor

[merry lotus]

if that actually happened I would scream

[marble dust]

remind me to buy aequor once i have a job

looks real fucking neat from the trailer

[pure jackal]

Mark hates the ocean

[marble dust]

Make him hate it more

[fallen quail]

what is considered a dll file? im asking because they always say something like download the dll file and put it in the plugin file but there is no dll file

[pastel wharf]

What are you talking about

[cunning wing]

aequor on its way to be sentenced to 3 scary games hell

[cunning wing]

the dll file is typically the one with yknow

the .dll file extension

i know that might be a bit suprising

[merry lotus]

wip top down view

you can switch between the 2 map views

[azure flume]

street view next?

Then sell the technology to google maps for 5 billion

[muted stirrup]

get it trending on itch.io since he often plays them from the top row lol

[merry lotus]

ok

how do I do that

[azure flume]

it will trend in itch once he plays it

It's a cycle !♻️

[merry lotus]

damn this circular logic

[muted stirrup]

lmao

[azure flume]

Play Deathloop or watch The Groundhog Day movie to get hints on how to break the cycle

[muted stirrup]

tbf its not that hard

or it least it wasnt at one point

but then again highest trending i got was like top 4 or 5

and it was a free game so...

and that week i swear mark played every game off the top row cept mine lmao

[azure flume]

All the 'top selling' games on itch are 18+ lol

[muted stirrup]

of course lmao

basically if its free and its horror, itll get some traction or should do

[azure flume]

it's not free tho

[muted stirrup]

oh wait i just remembered it aint...

shit

honestly selling games on itch is fucking hard

cos the majority of traffic is basically free horror games/major upcoming demos etc

i just checked as well, compared to the 800k free games, there is under 60k paid games, so i guess if it starts to do well, far less competition

[pure jackal]

Eek3 might help

[merry lotus]

new battery texture

i hated this old one

[pure jackal]

Synteks

Syn Tech

[azure flume]

SinTEK Industries

By Elexis Sinclaire!

[brazen copper]

[robust ridge]

Doosk new level: Corrupted cult (based on qc's corrupted keep)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htDuGsSEgdE

[merry lotus]

oh wait

there we go

[merry lotus]

epic

[pure jackal]

@brazen copper

[azure flume]

Plazmining Corporation

[merry lotus]

been working on a spider inverse kinematics thing for a couple of days now but the issue i have is that when i move the body too fast the legs just glide behind it

at least it looks funny while turning around

[minor bear]

I’m looking for an open source solution to add in-game videos in q3 based game to replace ROQ with something more relevant. What possible options are there?

I think d3 bfg have .bik support but its proprietary format right?

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1701187299034251703 👀

[merry lotus]

goodbye mr bones

[pure jackal]

mr bones is dead

[pastel wharf]

They deaded him

So sad

[fast vault]

So uh, what the fuck, Unity?
https://www.gamingonlinux.com/2023/09/unity-introduces-new-fees-for-game-devs-based-on-revenue-and-game-installs/

[rotund garden]

https://x.com/KenneyNL/status/1701582491805495596?s=20

Kenney (@KenneyNL)

Unity will soon charge devs per-install after a certain threshold. I'd like to express my concerns regarding privacy (tracking installs/downloads), preservation and changing the whole business model while devs are using the engine for their projects. 🫤

https://t.co/vic6cei5Vm

Likes

377

Retweets

133

Twitter · Sep 12, 2023, 1:04 PM

[rotund garden]

it's fucked, it's so over

[muted stirrup]

UNREAL SWEEEEP LES GO

jk ofc

[rotund garden]

it could potentially track pirated games as part of the installs lmao

[muted stirrup]

oof

[rotund garden]

it's finally happening

[fast vault]

Huh https://finance.yahoo.com/news/unity-software-incs-president-ceo-050515124.html

Goodness me, is Riccitiello pumping and dumping? Say it ain't so

[azure flume]

This move is part of a larger trend for the insider, who over the past year has sold a total of 50,610 shares

Looks like he just needs rent money lol

dumping 2k shares a month

[cunning wing]

john unity needs to be able to pay the team of magical seers he hired to find out how many people installed some random indie dev's game

[pastel wharf]

PIRACY WILL NO LONGER BE A VICTIMLESS CRIME

[azure flume]

as if the pirates wont patch telemetry out

hey, wait a minute, if i hate a dev I could actually build a tool that sends out fake telemetry claiming I installed the game 10000000 times?

[pastel wharf]

[merry lotus]

what the hell are they even trying to do (other than get more money)

because there's literally no excuse for this other than that

[pure jackal]

Money

[merry lotus]

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-spongebob-head-bang-gif-15984525

[fast vault]

Me on my way to begrudgingly learn more of Godot

Wait, is this because of the Unity Hub or the program itself?

[pearl pilot]

balls

[fast vault]

What version does that affect? Because I guess I won't be updating Unity anymore

[tranquil oracle]

I mean, the functionality for it may be in existing versions

Unity Hub itself manages your license, so it can probably revoke it for any version too

[humble dagger]

Anyone remember how I was waffling over switching back to unity and being mad at Godot?

Welp, looks like I'm learning Godot lmao

[pastel wharf]

The stars aligned

[fast vault]

Think we'll be getting an Unreal port of Dusk?

[keen bear]

no

its extremely unlikely you will see increased unreal output from us

we may still have a few, but primarily we will be continuing to use unity, and if this does become a problem, the strongest liklihood is an inhouse solution, rather than relying on external parties

[fast vault]

That'll be interesting to see a New Blood engine

[pure jackal]

Bloonity

[azure flume]

Buy the rights to HROT engine

[sudden imp]

It’s just pascal

[azure flume]

And unity is just C++

According to your logic

[sudden imp]

If that makes it easier sure

[rotund garden]

Godot is open source, right?
you could use it as the basis for your own engine?

or that's not how that works?

[tranquil oracle]

You can do that, yes

The code is open under the MIT license, which effectively has no real restrictions other than requiring attribution

[true horizon]

Fun fact there's a few big name games that use Unity
Like yaknow
Hearthstone.
Pokemon Go
Genshin Impact

This is not only a horribly made decision but also one that'll be absolutely fucking ripe with lawsuits lmao

Also saw it said that it was made to get around the GDPR which if that's the case then I wanna know what the hell they're on at Unity

[peak cave]

Waking up to the new Unity news is definitely not a good start of the day

[fast vault]

The recent responses to the questions just show how stubborn they are about this decision.

[fast vault]

A Unity employee answered this on the official thread

They literally have no idea currently on how they'll implement this

Meaning some exec told their marketing people to write that post without giving a thought about the how

[merry lotus]

was bored in school today so I made a ray tracer in JavaScript

school issued chromebooks are so fucking slow

[muted stirrup]

https://fxtwitter.com/GameDevKS/status/1701957534104342964 boom

[rotund garden]

https://garry.net/posts/unity-can-get-fucked

[sonic depot]

this is worse than Adobe bruh

this is why I always support open source

Godot, Ren'py, Stride (Actually Unity alternative that uses C#), Flax engine, Gdevelop, tiled, torque 3D and 2D

those are open sourced game engines I knew, I think there is whole list of Open Source Game Engines on Github

https://github.com/collections/game-engines

if you familiar with Unity, the only great alternative to that is Stride Engine; UI is similar to Unity, MIT Licence and open source, uses current C# and .NET version, supported by community, supported by Xbox (Microsoft as you know) and most of all... All plugins are free.

plus, made in Japan

[rotund garden]

Godot does support C#

[sonic depot]

but that's new

[rotund garden]

the second option

[sonic depot]

yup

[rotund garden]

this is very based

[sonic depot]

I forgot to put it's site

https://www.stride3d.net/

and yeah, before the "Stride", it was "Xenko"

[merry lotus]

ok but there's one question I have that will decide whether I'll check it out or not

is the y axis up

[sonic depot]

I think so? yes?

it's not my game btw, I just pulled up from site

[merry lotus]

like in unity +y moves the gameobject up

in godot the y axis is inverted

and in unreal the z axis is up for some reason

[sonic depot]

I see

I'm thinking to use this engine in future but I dunno it is or not

[merry lotus]

oh ok

[toxic hemlock]

its Z in unreal because thats the correct up axis

[tranquil oracle]

It depends on how you view the third dimension.
Y-up is natural if you take it as "2D + depth"

[toxic hemlock]

Z-up is natural because thats how it works in doom

[tranquil oracle]

It works that way in Quake and future id Tech engines too

[toxic hemlock]

this also means that Y+ is left

[tranquil oracle]

I have to convert between the two in the dusk sdk

[toxic hemlock]

ah right cos trenchbroom maps?

[tranquil oracle]

BSP maps

TrenchBroom is just a tool you can use to make them

It supports Source Engine BSP (to an extent) so you can even use Hammer + VRAD if you really want lol

[toxic hemlock]

if i cant use worldcraft 1.1 shareware its a shit sdk tbh

[tranquil oracle]

I mean, sure lmao

Those are just .map editing tools, then you just put that through a compiler to get a .bsp

[toxic hemlock]

u win this round

[tranquil oracle]

first map of hl2 in the sdk

(without textures cause I aint ripping all that shit I'm lazy)

[toxic hemlock]

never notice the turnstyle and tables were just brushes

thats wild u even got the physics working

[tranquil oracle]

yeah it's just a func_physbox constrained via phys_hinge

so all I had to do was map phys_hinge to a Unity HingeJoint and assign the axis to it

[cloud bloom]

That is insane

[unique crag]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rOBNkMEF-70

[sonic depot]

For first time Godot C# verison users

irony is, Unity gonna pull up this shit on my Birthday

[merry lotus]

been playing around with godot

[cloud bloom]

Thanks

[merry lotus]

programming is very similar to unity but i'm not a huge fan of getting nodes using GetNode

i wish you could just create a public variable for them and drag and drop like in unity

[tranquil oracle]

You could write a source generator to do that

eg, you'd write:

public partial class CameraLook : Node3D
{
    [Node("../player")]
    private Node3D player;

    [GeneratedNodeAccessor]
    private partial void GetNodes();

    public override void _Ready()
    {
        GetNodes();
    }

    public override void _Process(double delta)
    {
        Position = player.Position;
    }
}

and the source generator would generate:

partial class CameraLook
{
    private void GetNodes()
    {
        this.player = this.GetParent<Node3D>().GetNode<Node3D>("player");
    }
}

Side note I still DESPISE that underscore they have before certain functions in Godot's C# binding, I was hoping they removed that

[indigo notch]

Is there a reason to have the underscore?

[tranquil oracle]

Not a good one

[indigo notch]

That's kinda a dumb question.

[tranquil oracle]

If you want an example of a source generator, we have one for NewBlood.Interop.Steamworks: https://github.com/NewBloodInteractive/NewBlood.Interop.Steamworks/blob/main/sources/NewBlood.Interop.Steamworks.SourceGenerator/MemberFunctionGenerator.cs

[indigo notch]

Oooo, interesting!

[merry lotus]

neat

[indigo notch]

I need to follow New Blood on GitHub.

Done.

[merry lotus]

this is all very confusing

[tranquil oracle]

That generator looks for a function with [GenerateMemberFunction] on it, like this:

and it generates this:

So that if you have an ISteamClient* client;, you can now do client->CreateSteamPipe()

instead of Steamworks.SteamAPI_ISteamClient_CreateSteamPipe(client)

Makes it more closely match the C++ API

[merry lotus]

i'm pretty sure i get it now

so you just put the brackets on a variable and it generates code to assign it during compilation?

[tranquil oracle]

Yeah

[merry lotus]

neat

[tranquil oracle]

https://github.com/dotnet/roslyn/blob/main/docs/features/incremental-generators.md

[inner shuttle]

no need to use getparent

it's just

GetNode<Node3D>("NodeName")

[merry lotus]

i managed to create a Node and GeneratedNodeAccessor attribute but now i'm kinda stuck on how to actually do the generator

[tranquil oracle]

Refer to the one for our Steam binding, ForAttributeWithMetadataName basically means "find all of the syntax nodes that have this attribute", and then you just filter those

The generator needs to be a separate project, it's a type of Roslyn Analyzer

https://github.com/NewBloodInteractive/NewBlood.Interop.Steamworks/blob/main/sources/NewBlood.Interop.Steamworks.SourceGenerator/NewBlood.Interop.Steamworks.SourceGenerator.csproj so it needs to target netstandard2.0, and reference Microsoft.CodeAnalysis.CSharp + Microsoft.CodeAnalysis.Analyzers

And here is how you can reference the generator from another project https://github.com/NewBloodInteractive/NewBlood.Interop.Steamworks/blob/main/sources/NewBlood.Interop.Steamworks/NewBlood.Interop.Steamworks.csproj#L22

I'd recommend joining the C# Discord and asking for help in the #roslyn channel too if you run into any walls

[merry lotus]

thanks

[tranquil oracle]

Also feel free to yoink any code from that generator if you need it

The code is MIT so you can already do that, but I specifically mean you don't need to do the attribution shit or whatever

[inner shuttle]

also you can get it as
[Export] private Node3D player;

Export attribute will expose anything to the Godot editor

from there, Alt + B to rebuild your project

and you should see it come up

then you can click and select

behind the scenes it just uses the nodepath of whatever you choose relatively

sparing you the headaches

That's how I get away with these clusterfucks

the ranges dont do anything they're just a debug display btw

you can make some cool stuff in Godot i believe

[indigo notch]

Due to recent Unity shinanigans, I'm considering switching to Godot, would you guys think that'd be a good idea?

[azure flume]

Depends how much work you'll be throwing away in the process

[indigo notch]

I got no project in the works.

I almost started a new one, but haven't because of the situation.

[azure flume]

And second thing, ever planning to get a job 'in the industry' or just doing it for yourself?

Nobody is looking for godot experience devs so there's that to consider

Obviously this could change in the future, but as of right now, it's a gamble.

[unique crag]

I think Unreal Engine isnt that bad but I dont know how publishing a game with Unreal Engine works

Ive only tinkered a tiny bit with Unreal but afaik all you need to do is to just advertise Unreal Engine in the game's intro or smth like that?

[wraith beacon]

Free to use under $1,000,000 in revenue, revenue share above $1,000,000.

[indigo notch]

Yeah, I take a class in my school about it and that's where I've learned Unity, so I already have experience and will be getting much more. But this project in question is for funsies.

[indigo notch]

Ew yucky!!!

Payment!!!

Hiss!!!

[unique crag]

Oh damn, whats the share %?

[indigo notch]

5%.

I believe.

[unique crag]

Ph thats not so bad

[azure flume]

0% on epic store sales

[indigo notch]

Yeah.

But that'd make it dead in the water!

[wraith beacon]

Yea 5% but 0% on EGS sales.

[unique crag]

The bigger share stealer would be Steam which is 30 percent, but I could easily just make a website about the game so it can be just 5 percent

[azure flume]

I mean you can do both stores

[unique crag]

Ah, would I get any share or smth like that if the game is like free?

That also goes for copyright issues and stuff which Ive been wondering for a while now, if my game is basically free with no transactions whatsoever but it contains content that is copyrighted, would I get sued?

[azure flume]

You could be, yes

[indigo notch]

Obviously depends on the copyright holder if they want to go for it but you're still liable.

[unique crag]

I see, good to know

[indigo notch]

Unless stated in a liscense that you can use it in that way.

[azure flume]

Plenty of copyright free assets out there on the internet

I wouldn't take the risk

[unique crag]

At some point I tried to do some form of a game but I was really unsure if the copyright thing would get me sued or not

Yeh its better if I just find public domain stuff and make the rest myself

[azure flume]

You'd most likely get a cease and desist letter at first and only get legal action if you ignore that

[unique crag]

I see

[inner shuttle]

https://twitter.com/duskdev/status/1702006508202913932?s=46&t=AKxiFNrZy5vbdCPYAbx2hw For those who havent seen yet

David Szymanski (@DUSKdev)

Ok yes, THIS is why I immediately liked Godot right off the bat. It feels like Unity used to. It feels like I'm working with Unity 4 again when stuff was a bit simplistic but mostly worked and made sense.

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Godot good

[toxic hemlock]

i cant see because i straight up cannot see new posts while logged out and elon wont let me fucking log in

cool fucking site

[tranquil oracle]

unable to view twitter? I'm jealous

[merry lotus]

got bullet prefabs working

dashing is a little bit wonky and i'm not sure why though

[indigo notch]

Looks sick!

[inner shuttle]

how are you handling dashing?

to me it looks like its an instant translation

that'll just straight up teleport you

[merry lotus]

that's how it worked in the original unity version of the game

basically it just casts a ray in the direction you're moving

if there's a wall blocking your way, you get teleported to the wall - your radius so that you don't clip through the wall

if there isn't you just get teleported a set amount in your move direction

[indigo notch]

Oh, are you porting over a game?

[pure jackal]

yes

[indigo notch]

Oh, Neato!

[sonic depot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N3oWEBRv9SE
The neat video for converting Unity Assets to Godot (if you have whole game on Unity with assets)

also on his site has same thing but in pics

https://gamefromscratch.com/move-from-unity-to-godot-engine-in-seconds/

those are the github links to those converters
https://github.com/barcoderdev/unitypackage_godot
https://github.com/V-Sekai/unidot_importer

[sonic depot]

This event reminds me when Autodesk killed Softimage, everyone started to support Blender. When it happened, blender had bad GUI but later years and tons of support made Blender having modern GUI.

I think it will happen to Godot to have it

[wraith beacon]

I don't really think there's a correlation between the death of Softimage and Blender becoming more popular.

Any enterprise that was using Softimage either stuck with Softimage and just made plugins for it internally, or moved to Maya or Max.

[sonic depot]

🤔

Maybe I remember worng but at last it's similar

[fast vault]

You're using object pooling for the projectiles?

[azure flume]

im sorry to bring the truth, but blender still has bad UI.

[crimson tapir]

"Good break, but it's probably time to get back to work on my unity project. I sure hope Unity didn't do anything severely unethical and greedy while I was gone"

[merry lotus]

no I'm just instantiating one at the gun's barrel transform and resetting a time between shoot variable that goes down by the delta time

should I be using object pooling

I've never done it before

[toxic hemlock]

object pooling is for pussies

real chads just instance everything

[azure flume]

honestly they are so simple objects there is probably no point doing it ever

[fast vault]

I often forget that modern computers aren't running on 512mb of ram and an athlon

I always feel a little bad for asking my code to do a handful of multiplication problems

maybe some division on the side

[merry lotus]

same

i added dashing and smooth camera offset
dashing doesn't do collision checks before teleporting yet because idk how to do that in godot yet

also i'm learning how to do UI

so far i really like godot

[sonic depot]

it's great to see people started to like free and open source programs.

But maybe, maybe in future y'all gonna install Linux too, specially Arch Linux

Also to people who is gonna install Godot and wants future updates; it's on Steam too, so you don't need to get updates by replacing it's EXE file everytime. Steam will do it for you.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/404790/Godot_Engine/

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[indigo notch]

You were using Unity before, correct? Has the transition been good so far?

[merry lotus]

pretty good transition

I'm glad that godot has c# integration and also the node system was pretty easy to learn

I don't really like how godot launches the game in an external program instead of the editor though

[indigo notch]

Ooooo, gotcha.

I'm actually more of a fan of launching in a new window, personally.

[unique crag]

Artix is better

[toxic plinth]

You switched to Godot?

Is it because of uh.

The thing.

Honestly, I’m considering switching to Unreal.

[merry lotus]

ye

[toxic plinth]

Would anyone recommend?

The silence tells me there’s mixed opinions about UE5.

[wraith beacon]

I'm still on a pretty geriatric version of Unreal 4 for my projects.

[crimson tapir]

I'm actually looking at trying my hand at making Snowdown Arena as a source mod

[indigo notch]

Honestly the most based people are moving to Source.

Scratch that.

[wraith beacon]

If by based you mean dum.

[indigo notch]

Real game developers should move over to Wolfenstein 3D's engine.

[stone idol]

You want shiny graphics and don't care about low-end and mid-tier PCs? Then go to Unreal.
You want something really free of charge and easy to use? Go to Godot.

[stone idol]

Just be careful updating between major releases, like, switching from 3.x to 4.x
It was a real pain in the butt for many of people in the local Godot chat.

[merry lotus]

got IK working

i LOVE how godot has it's own built in IK system

unity had an official IK system in the animation rigging package but that took a long time to install and set up

[crimson tapir]

Lol, probably. But I've been on a Half Life binge lately and just want to try it out

[toxic plinth]

Aight, noted.

What if I take the level of graphics down, or provide settings for low-end and mid-tier PCs?

[toxic plinth]

Quick question: Does Godot use C#?

[merry lotus]

if uses gdscript but you can use c# with it just by downloading the .NET version of it

[toxic plinth]

Which one would be better for Godot, GDscript or C#?

I grew up with Unity, so I’m more familiarized with C#.

Never really heard of GDscript until now.

[merry lotus]

I like c# better but that's just because I've been using c# with unity for so long

[toxic plinth]

Guess I’m using C# then.

[merry lotus]

also I heard gdscript is like python so yeah c# is the way to go imo

[toxic plinth]

Good to know.

Does the Steam version of Godot use C#?

[wraith beacon]

While Unreal has more overhead upfront than Godot it's not like you can't make a game on it that runs well. If you uhhhhh do this magical thing that you should be doing with any game development tool called, changing defaults you can get things running pretty well.

[merry lotus]

I looked earlier today and I don't think so

[toxic plinth]

Going with .NET if that’s the case.

[merry lotus]

I downloaded it and opened my project with it and it said it couldn't open because it had c# scripts in it

[toxic plinth]

So, .net overall?

[merry lotus]

ye

[toxic plinth]

Aight.

Thanks.

[merry lotus]

👍

[toxic plinth]

Might as well test around Unreal and Godot, no harm messing around with them.

[azure flume]

One argument for gdscript would be the fact that more people use it with godot and finding help is easier.

[inner shuttle]

Oh oh oh! I know this one!

TestMove()

It'll basically cast an exact copy of your PhysicsBody's collider

at the specified transform

from there it'll simulate the motion - you can also pass a KinematicCollision3D object into it to receive collision data such as the normal, position, and collider body

That's how I do stair checks in my game!

The check basically positions the virtual collider on top of the step, and tries to move it along the step by the depth amount

if it encounters any collisions on its way, it'll return true

the method works the same way in both C# and GDScript, with the exception of different cases for methods

TitleCase in C# and snake_case in GDScript

You can also use Raycasts via code by referencing the PhysicsServer using a reference to the PhysicsServer/ space state, and feeding it a parameters object in an IntersectsRay call

this method is more frustrating though as you get a dictionary of the exact same data (collider, normal, position, RID) but without the quick member access you get with KinematicCollision3D objects

so rule of thumb, if the check you want to perform concerns specifically the character body or any physics body, use TestMove(), if you want to do stuff where you have to cast a ray, like for Hitscan weapons, use either the PhysicsServer approach or, more sanely, the RayCast3D node (less flexible when working with code, but works nonetheless)

you might sometimes want to turn on that recovery as collision boolean on too, as sometimes the initial testmove may not give you your result but depenetration will

[tranquil oracle]

A "TestMove" API is what I wish Unity's CharacterController had, you can move it and then move it back, but that will cause collision events to occur

I ended up needing to implement it myself

[inner shuttle]

oh TestMove is wonderful

[tranquil oracle]

(Since I needed advanced collision filtering for brushes in the SDK)

(Since a brush can be non-solid, but still block the player)

[inner shuttle]

Yep, makes sense

[tranquil oracle]

~200 lines of code that shouldn't have been necessary

[inner shuttle]

Godot has a lot of these really cool quality of life features, of course we have inbuilt ground/ceiling/floor checks too

[tranquil oracle]

Unity has those but they suck

lol

[inner shuttle]

Oh yeah here I just use them by default, never failed me

Also doing data driven is very easy and fun in Godot

I made a Motor resource which handles all of velocity calculations if you just give it velocity, input velocity (either determined by script or actual input), a ground check, a jump condition, and process frame time and

it does all of my movement processing (well, 75%) in a single line

meanwhile I can enjoy this human readable menu

the reason the numbers are so large in this screen is because I work with TrenchBroom for levels and I'm sick of thinking in units and Godot meters back and forth

so I just made a little tool that lets me to all my calculations in these units proper, and then spits out a value that Godot will be happy with and won't launch me into the observable cosmos

(By tool I mean I multiply by 1/32, but tool sounds like I actually did something)

I could just straight up divide by 32 but oh well

you live you learn

[fast vault]

Baby's first UE5 steps. Just dipping my toes in the water with weapon/camera sway, and playing sfx

[inner shuttle]

nice!

[fast vault]

I know Unity's a sore topic right now, but I finally got around to implementing a system to change the player's mesh/skins at runtime. No, there will not be microtransactions for any premium skins. All skins will be unlockable via coins collected in the levels.

[limber bramble]

hell yeah

[indigo notch]

Looks really sick!

[sonic depot]

looks so great

also

god dammit, everytime.

Someone said about C# and GDscript and which one of to start programming, what I can say is; as a C# and Python user, GDScript is easier if you want to start on game devs stuff quickly. Since it's Python based and it's very beginner type. To understand about GDscript, you start to learn Python first. Buuttt... If you master of .NET and C# (I'm not, I do small programs with it, still trying to be), it's ok to use Godot's C# version, but remember, it's new to Godot. Some bugs will happen.

if you still want C# based game engine, you need Stride Game Engine. Japan based game company's (who made Bravely Default with SE) open sourced game engine, supported by Microsoft for .NET and C# capabilities.

[fast vault]

I think there are some bone issues when I imported this model into UE5...

[flint plover]

GET OUT OF MY HEAD

[earnest lily]

blender?

[fast vault]

Yeah I did the animations in Blender and exported. I read on the Unreal discord that importing fbx with animations have to be very specific, but I guess I need to go through the steps again

It's really just the end fingers that's having an issue

[earnest lily]

it just so happens to be my expertize

😎

can you show me the skeleton?

in UE and Blunder

if you remember to keep your armature object named "Armature" in Blender, Unreal will automatically cull that from the Skeleton for you as well

the export settings I use

[fast vault]

Here's the Blender skeleton

[earnest lily]

Huh, are the end bones gone from the Unreal skeleton? 😳

[fast vault]

Here's the Unreal skeleton

[earnest lily]

that seems to look correct

hmm

[fast vault]

I got this when I imported the mesh

[ruby fable]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/994906915832352838/1152297785165627432/Created_with_GameMaker_2023-09-15_13-39-07.mp4

working on a singleplayer sandbox realmlike

this took a bit to get working

[merry lotus]

I love the animations

[indigo notch]

Yeah they’re really cool!

[sonic depot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L711ozxQbw

[toxic hemlock]

unlockable costumes are so fucking based

which RE game let u play as regina from dino crisis again

was it 3?

shit like that is awesome

dead space also does stuff like that, ds2 gives u the ds1 plasma cutter if u have a ds1 save on ur machine, and the remake gives u the level 2 rig ported straight from ds1 into the new engine

[merry lotus]

thx for your help!

[fast vault]

Some more Godot testing

[sonic depot]

[keen bear]

i wish it had better windowing/docking support

the layout is very frustrating

[merry lotus]

working on arachnidroids is fun but now i gotta go back to unity to finish the next aequor update

[pure jackal]

o7

[inner shuttle]

that looks great!!

[inner shuttle]

think there might be a PR for that? unsure

in the very least an issue on GH

[keen bear]

It definitely should've been a higher priority, but I digress

[fast vault]

Alright, now to just make the rest of the game

[inner shuttle]

Make sure to rightclick on the dummy and save it as a scene! then you can make a whole lot of them c:

also I'd probably give dummies some sort of a collision parent, maybe staticbody? or you could have them be rigidbody with axis locks so they ragdoll after you shoot them a whole bunch, idk

[fast vault]

What would be the difference betwern adding a rigidbody node and a character3d node? I'm currently using the character3d node as a base for the dummy

[merry lotus]

i love the top left

[muted stirrup]

Thanks! thats the most recent level ive been working on 👍

[inner shuttle]

physics!

characterbodies are great for ai that has to do a bunch of stuff and for player controllers

however, i think that if you want to make a dummy giving it a rigidbody instead and having it plop over when you shoot at it enough could be satisfying

[merry lotus]

crosshair, 4 legs, and muzzle flash

[crimson tapir]

Hard restart number 4 baby!

Snowdown is coming to Godot

[untold sparrow]

i wish i knew blender

[merry lotus]

i love inverse kinematics

[untold sparrow]

what

explain

please

[merry lotus]

the spider is spinning and the legs are working correctly and it looks cool

[untold sparrow]

ah

ok

how do you blender though

ive tried

i failed

[inner shuttle]

this is so sick!

[humble herald]

reminds me of old flash top down shooters along this same line of movement - killer work so far

[fast vault]

Added some animations, added movement to prevent weapon clipping against walls, blood particles on hit point. Kinda treating this like a weeklong gamejam to see just how much I can do in Godot in a week.

[sonic depot]

@untold sparrow I know what you going tru, I was like you, who don't know to use Blender but it's easy like Adobe Photoshop but yeah, Blender always uses shortcuts than pressing buttons on GUI (still you can do that btw), this tutorial will help you https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLjEaoINr3zgFX8ZsChQVQsuDSjEqdWMAD

also here is Blender Shortcuts on Graphic

yeah, it's gonna take time ofc. I learned this software in 1-2 weeks from my french friend who does... NSFW models. Thanks to her...

[fast vault]

This shortcut graphic is really intimidating, even for someone who's been using Blender for a few years

[sonic depot]

it's really helped me tho, I know it's little bit confusing

[merry lotus]

it all begins with the donut

[sonic depot]

it is

yes wooden donut

with glue

[slender knoll]

lmao

based

[indigo notch]

Delicious and Nutritious.

[fast vault]

Added bullet holes and a basic enemy

[earnest lily]

I need to do blood vfx for my project

good reminder

[merry lotus]

camera offset system + tank with no AI yet

[sonic depot]

I gave this to newthing

also I'm giving away this object to use on your game

can I send .zip file on here?

[azure flume]

Sure you can

Plazmin's game doesn't have enough wooden donuts!

[sonic depot]

[merry lotus]

wip enemy

i call this thing a "auradrone"

[azure flume]

roomba

[sonic depot]

keep it as easter egg

[drowsy escarp]

Btw how do you handle mouse sensitivity?

[azure flume]

Keep it as healing item!

[sonic depot]

^this

but smaller object

or maybe do big one gives 100+ but small ones gives 25+

[fast vault]

I just have a really small float value multiplied to the mouse input event. I think it's around 0.02 or something like that for the current sensitivity

[ruby fable]

sandbox game shenanigans

made in gamemaker :3

honestly as an aside, regarding the unity stuff, i would recommend gamemaker as a viable alternative to unity - though only if you don't mind the subscription model thingy

you don't really have to pay consistently, you only have to pay if you wanna build to an executable file

which is neat cuz then you can cancel your subscription after if you don't plan on releasing an update to your game in the near future

[sonic depot]

To all Godot users, if you want shader to your game

https://godotshaders.com/

Also all shaders in this site is free

[long leaf]

might make a game. I think my last attempt was too big

godot obviously

[sonic depot]

I'm trying to make, visual novel with some interaction. ofc fully Python based RenPy I'll use. Sorry about the background, I did it so quickly to see how it does.

I wanna go crazy with this... Since this is same engine that used for Doki Doki.

yall know how doki doki had some crazy stuff to find out and solving puzzle things.

[fast vault]

Renpy is rrally cool how you can get a working game going so quickly

[merry lotus]

look at it go

[drowsy escarp]

I’m wondering does Godot have a Real-time CSG equivalent? I know there’s the CSG stuff but for some reason it won’t let you remove the faces

[tranquil oracle]

I'm no expert on Godot, so don't take this as an informed answer, but as far as I know most people resort to using TrenchBroom and importing with Qodot. I haven't heard of a dedicated CSG level design plugin existing yet.

[sharp vortex]

Really fucking cool that Frictional Games lets you just straight up load the levels from Amnesia The Bunker in their level editor so you can see how they work

And the levels aren't really as complex to build as I thought, just time consuming

Might just have two editors up so I can see what kind of values they put on certain stuff so I can replicate it

[sharp vortex]

little room I made

mom said its my turn to play the xbox

[inner shuttle]

We have CSG nodes, and you can always extend their functionality

Or even straight up modify them using GDExtension

[tranquil oracle]

How extensive is the built-in stuff?

[inner shuttle]

let me pull it up

oh wait i can send you CSG docs page

https://docs.godotengine.org/en/stable/tutorials/3d/csg_tools.html

It's pretty good for quick blockouts

[tranquil oracle]

I see, so it's moreso CSG building blocks, and the idea is that you would build level design tools on top of those

[inner shuttle]

And I love CSG polygon

If you make an interior scene, you can use a CSGPolygon node with Path mode to create corridors

And the corridor will go along the path

[tranquil oracle]

heh

Part of me wonders how much work it'd take to fill those gaps for something built-in

[inner shuttle]

that took me like 5 min

[inner shuttle]

I can totally recommend Qodot btw

[sharp vortex]

the existence of Qodot is huge for me having just heard about from both of you lmao

makes me much more willing to try moving over

[inner shuttle]

it's great! I made a whole map with it, let me show you ingame

[sharp vortex]

ProBuilder was fine in Unity but it had a lot of fuckywucky problems at random

[sharp vortex]

yeee that's some good shit, how does porting the textures of map/ uv work?

[inner shuttle]

it's literally 1:1

[sharp vortex]

like it just does it?

[inner shuttle]

any textures you apply in trenchbroom

will apply in Godot via Qodot

[sharp vortex]

bruh

[inner shuttle]

it's such a good system

[sharp vortex]

that's actually sick

[inner shuttle]

UV alignment and all too

also, in Godot you can type your imported meshes as the type you want them to be

so I imported my weapons as my Weapon type, which makes it so that they have hitscan shooting logic on import

No need to drag them into anything, it's literally. a weapon

[sharp vortex]

that is quite kooky

[inner shuttle]

the reason it works is because each imported mesh is parented to a root node

and you can choose type of the root node

[tranquil oracle]

Admittedly I'd be more interested in something more integrated though, i.e., editing the map within godot, which could save out a .map which I can then run through a Quake map compiler (or even integrate that into Godot too), and then Godot loads data from the resulting .bsp

[inner shuttle]

That's not impossible to add

[tranquil oracle]

Of course, it just doesn't exist yet is all

[inner shuttle]

Again, you have GDExtension and plugins systm

[tranquil oracle]

I'm tempted to see how much of my BSP loader could be ported to Godot after the SDK's out

[inner shuttle]

GDExtension is C++, Godot plugins are GDScript or C# and will allow you to literally like

modify the UI because Godot UI is built with the Godot UI System

that's how someone was able to just, swap the type of the FileDock from vertical box container to horizontal box container

and unity-ify it

[inner shuttle]

likely most of it, with some changes

Godot is very pliable

there isn't an aspect of it you can't modify,

hell you can disable the whole built-in script window if you want

so it goes from this

to this

and I also just disabled all of Node2Ds

you can do that going to Editor > Manage Editor Features

this will allow you to filter out stuff you won't be using in your project, like entire viewports

and node categories

so if you're making a 3D game and don't intend on using 2D viewport for anything but UI, you can remove all of 2D nodes

and they won't pop up when you search for stuff

same if you're making a 2D game and don't intend on using any 3D - in that case, you can even disable the 3D viewport since unlike the 2D viewport you really have no use for it in 2D

that's what my friend did, they disabled Script and 3D windows and 3D nodes, and can now make their whole 2D game without additional bloat

also if you wonder why my font is the Unity font, it's because I can just

do this

[sonic depot]

I mean, it works fast and uses Python language itself (not a script)

Btw Godot has github and it's source code is out since it was open sourced. You can do any changes if you want! Hell, even make Godot to code only C++, slap different logo and call it "Bloody Engine"

https://github.com/godotengine/godot

God, I love Open Source

[pastel wharf]

FOSS my beloved

[earnest lily]

I saw a plugin for that

[humble dagger]

Be warned!

It comes with issues normal of FOSS

I feel like the old guy who stands outside of the labyrinth now

[humble dagger]

Qodot is incredibly powerful

Big fan of it

It has caveats though that you need to be mindful of

[inner shuttle]

fully aware been using it for quite a while now

[humble dagger]

The issue with no draw colliders made my brain hurt

[inner shuttle]

what? it draws collisions just fine for me

[humble dagger]

There was a bug with skipped textures where the collision shapes would have all the nodraw points to (0,0,0)

[sonic depot]

ip grabber

[pastel wharf]

@paper vigil I just checked, this is porn, please delete

This user posted this all over the place

[merry lotus]

• health bar (it goes down gradually just so i can show it working)
• WIP enemy explosion effect (not on the tank)
• reworked post processing

[merry lotus]

I'm not sure how to separate the dash and health bars though

like let the player know that one's for health and the other is for dash recharge

[pure jackal]

Health changes color from green to red

Dash is blue

Dash could also not be on screen until the dash is used, where its back until it fills, stays for a second, and if its unused, fades out

[merry lotus]

I don't think the red-green health bar would look that good

[pastel wharf]

Maybe the dash UI is a bunch of icons that regain opacity vertically instead of being a bar

[pure jackal]

Just green then

[pastel wharf]

Also as meatbox said making dash bar only appear when needed would also communicate that

[merry lotus]

that would be cool

maybe not even a bunch of icons

maybe just a circle that fills up

[pastel wharf]

Ye that'd work well

The info is still being conveyed in the same manner, just looks different

[pure jackal]

It should stick for a second, then fade

[vagrant bobcat]

https://youtu.be/dhsLFHzwORA?si=EPOWziiIBqfebgam

My ultrakill like game will soon be released

[fast vault]

How comparable is the UI system to Unity's?

[merry lotus]

i still haven't really gotten the hang of it yet but it seems easier to use

like how in unity for progress bars you gotta set up a slider to make it non interactive and get rid of the handle

in godot the progress bar is it's own node

I love that

kinda hard to stylize it though

[humble dagger]

been trying to implement a quake like controller in godot for a bit

it's not going great but it's slowly coming together

[rotund garden]

lol

lmao

anyways

https://www.humblebundle.com/software/everything-you-need-to-know-about-godot-4-encore-software

[fast vault]

Plaz, for some reason I had a dream that you were showing a new minimap system for Aequor and it was some ridiculously complex system involving generating a whole duplicate of the scene along with crazy shaders

[merry lotus]

well

the map system does involve a duplicate of the map because I'm lazy and didn't know how else to do it

but also I don't know much about shaders so yeah it was definitely a dream lol

[drowsy escarp]

Does godot have a scriptable object equivilant?

Those things are really useful for making weapon and enemy stats

[pastel wharf]

Godot has nodes instead of objects

And any node can have a script attached

[drowsy escarp]

you might want to have an invisible ramp on the stairs

[pastel wharf]

If you want a basic node with no functionality other than storing said script you can use the node known as Node

[humble dagger]

I'm intentionally avoiding it

I really want to make a controller that can handle steps

[tranquil oracle]

A ScriptableObject in Unity is just a custom asset type (kinda like a component but on a GameObject without a transform or any other components on it)

So presumably you can just use a regular node in Godot to replicate the functionality

[humble dagger]

Godot doesn't super map 1-1 onto unity

I think scriptableobject is closest to a resource?

but I'm honestly not sure

Nodes are gameobjects though

[drowsy escarp]

i mean theres a reason most games have invisible ramps on stairs

[humble dagger]

Yeah, but I don't like having to do that every time I make a map. I know it's smoother but at least the option would exist

if I make it ramp-only, which I've done in the past, I have to track down and fix every instance of stairs, or a lip, or anything on the map

It doesn't necessarily help that I'm also intentionally using a cylinder collider

[pure jackal]

Clipping brushes are probably way less resource intensive and issue preventative than getting a character controller to have its capsule collider treat stairs like a ramp

[tranquil oracle]

Yeah a ramp is the easiest and cheapest solution both from an effort and technological perspective

With the amount of time you'll spend wrangling with physics to get stairs to work, you could have just gone through and added ramps

[humble dagger]

But it's fun

Plus, genuinely, I like the feel more

This is also for a template more than a like, full game. I tend to whip up lots of little projects and spend a bunch of time on R&D when I re-make a controller. I sort of want this to be a starting point for lots of stuff.

[muted stirrup]

shud have this ready by end of week

[sonic depot]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQK23sAJ2y8

This is biggest bruh moment I've seen

[fast vault]

So Godot is pretty cool. There's something cozy about it. idk why

[indigo notch]

I agree.

[long leaf]

my love for godot in the past has finally been vindicated

[coarse magnet]

damn I wish I can get into godot seems fun

[dense inlet]

Ive been trying to enjoy it but something about Unity clicks more than Godot for me

[fast vault]

I think for me, it's mainly becausr of how fast code compilation is (nearly instant) and how fast it is to start the game. Though I am using a small project so far so it could get worse as size expands

[humble dagger]

I keep stubbing my toe on Godot caveats tbth

It's kind of driving me nuts

[indigo notch]

Fanatical is giving away a group of books about programming for free right now.

Happy to say it appears Unity free!!

They got one on Godot too!!!

Haven’t actually read them yet, but they’re free so it’s hard to complain.

One of them’s a hefty file though, 65 megabytes.

[pastel wharf]

Link?

[indigo notch]

https://www.fanatical.com/en/bundle/international-day-of-the-programmer-2023-free-giveaway?ref=gamefromscratch

The embed image doesn’t have the books they’re just random.

[pastel wharf]

Just snatched them

Coolio

[indigo notch]

Enjoy the free literature.

[inner shuttle]

how the hell did you get those stair climbs

[humble dagger]

Give me a little bit I can get a link to a paper

[humble dagger]

https://thelowrooms.com/articledir/programming_stepclimbing.php

I used a shapecast for this. I'm using normal move and slide for all movement calculations

The shapecast returns a random point on the step, so I just update my controllers Y position when I get a step and call move and slide

It does have an issue where at specific speeds in specific spots the controller collides for like a frame with the wall that I'm still working out

Of note, the controller handles edges terribly and I'm not sure how to fix that. It's a move and slide + cylinder collider issue rather than a code one

[inner shuttle]

thank you

Also your gravity looks a little odd, how are you doing it?

I do mine as something like:

[Export] private float _jumpHeight   = 34;
[Export] private float _durationPeak = 0.33f;
[Export] private float _durationFall = 0.33f;
private float _jumpGravity, _fallGravity, _jumpVelocity;

// in _Ready()
_jumpHeight /= 32;
_jumpVelocity =  2f * _jumpHeight /  _durationPeak;
_jumpGravity  = -2f * _jumpHeight / (_durationPeak * _durationPeak);
_fallGravity  = -2f * _jumpHeight / (_durationFall * _durationFall);

Also the reason I use 34 for jump is because I divide every value by 32 in code since it's easier for me to tweak values in Quake units than in Godot meters