#amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown | New Blood | Page 120

gloomy comet Dec 22, 2019, 10:10 PM

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90/over 133 cap is slower AF

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I've found only those three type of game speed for now... what's the right one?

crystal spruce Dec 22, 2019, 10:12 PM

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Leon fix ur broken game

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Smh

lethal elk Dec 22, 2019, 10:13 PM

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msasmug idk just pick what you prefer

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121 or 133 frames are the best for me

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or 61

gloomy comet Dec 22, 2019, 10:17 PM

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i think its a frametime issue

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at 70fps is slooooooooooooooow

lethal elk Dec 22, 2019, 10:18 PM

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Yeah, the weapons are sprites

left marlin Dec 22, 2019, 10:18 PM

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sorry game done

lethal elk Dec 22, 2019, 10:18 PM

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That’s the reason why they act so weird

gloomy comet Dec 22, 2019, 10:23 PM

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mmm gotcha, still it's something that should be address by developer, it's gamebreaking. Btw i think that 120fps is tinytiny faster then 60 but still seems the best compromise, assuming that game is designed at 60fps first.

night ginkgo Dec 22, 2019, 11:43 PM

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yeah it's been a huge pain in the ass for me

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it makes no sense that it slows down at higher frame rates

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I'll bump it up the list

proper oxide Dec 23, 2019, 12:41 AM

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leleleleleleleon

gloomy comet Dec 23, 2019, 12:48 AM

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@night ginkgo actually slow down at different frame caps/frametimes. Try to cap at 70 fps and see how freaking slow it is for example :0

night ginkgo Dec 23, 2019, 12:50 AM

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yeah I'm aware

plucky isle Dec 23, 2019, 2:32 AM

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Leon the Fps-Master

night ginkgo Dec 23, 2019, 3:41 AM

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hopefully i can fix it

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it's something that shouldn't be happening

gloomy comet Dec 23, 2019, 8:57 AM

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@night ginkgo just out of curiosity, is at 60fps cap the regular weapons velocity?

night ginkgo Dec 23, 2019, 9:00 AM

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hmm?

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there's no cap, just for some reason past ~62fps the weapon sprites frame rate starts to increase

manic dragon Dec 23, 2019, 9:24 AM

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at 75 it slows down

night ginkgo Dec 23, 2019, 9:26 AM

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it starts to slow down at 63

manic dragon Dec 23, 2019, 9:34 AM

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which is big shame

night ginkgo Dec 23, 2019, 10:07 AM

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yeah I'm looking into it

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it's super weird and makes no sense of course

crystal spruce Dec 23, 2019, 2:36 PM

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Big oof, meaning I shouldn't play it at 144Hz?

gloomy comet Dec 23, 2019, 4:23 PM

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@night ginkgo I was asking what was the intended weapon velocity basically, so until 63 fps is like the game is designed.
But Yeah past that the weapons slow down (70 and 90 fps), they behave like 60fps more and less (120fps), they go faster then intended velocity (130fps) and slow again over 133 fps... Isn't something incremental so it's really strange to predict. My only ignorant guess is that is tied to the number of the frametime.

slate sorrel Dec 24, 2019, 12:42 AM

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magic iz lame make scifi gaem nurd

night ginkgo Dec 24, 2019, 12:47 AM

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we are

slate sorrel Dec 24, 2019, 12:49 AM

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Big Chungus's Ultimate Revenge II in Space

dreamy prairie Dec 24, 2019, 1:02 AM

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Super Turbo Big Chungus's Puncher 4 - The revenge.

crystal spruce Dec 24, 2019, 7:54 AM

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Amid Evil 2 space time

thick jay Dec 24, 2019, 3:28 PM

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evil always finds a way, eh?

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also, finally bought and started playing amid evil, is good

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love it

tardy cove Dec 24, 2019, 5:26 PM

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I thought episodes 6 and 7 were space time already

old kelp Dec 24, 2019, 6:19 PM

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When clipping through reality in episode 7 and 6 you end up in the new blood backrooms and can teleport to any point in time where amid evil was on sale. They use this technique to time travel to points of interest. So everytime amid evil is on sale you know that something crazy is going on at nb hq. I already said to much im going into hiding now.

crystal spruce Dec 24, 2019, 6:23 PM

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😳

bold yarrow Dec 25, 2019, 11:04 AM

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I finally bought this. Mrry chrsmass to myself.

night ginkgo Dec 25, 2019, 11:04 AM

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merry christmas enjoy the game

bold yarrow Dec 25, 2019, 11:05 AM

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Ty ty. Party time

gloomy comet Dec 25, 2019, 12:44 PM

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@bold yarrow Remember to cap the game at 60 or 120fps to have proper weapon speed! Have fun and Merry Christmas!

empty hamlet Dec 25, 2019, 1:07 PM

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oh that's why my axe was slow as shit

tender solstice Dec 25, 2019, 4:55 PM

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I finished the game on 144 fps

proper oxide Dec 25, 2019, 4:59 PM

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ok

frosty drift Dec 25, 2019, 4:59 PM

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any multiple of 60 should be okay

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if you have a 144hz screen for instance and your pc can handle it then capping your fps to 240 should do it

plucky isle Dec 25, 2019, 5:21 PM

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I finished the game with aepiss+aediidjiil

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you suck

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||actually I didn't||

crystal spruce Dec 25, 2019, 5:23 PM

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What do those do again?

plucky isle Dec 25, 2019, 5:25 PM

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aediidjiil mirrors the game

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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/367135220241137667/582744047521628176/unknown.png?width=1443&height=597

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aepiss just makes it...eeeeeh..UNPLAYABLE

crystal spruce Dec 25, 2019, 5:27 PM

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I’ll do it

dire briar Dec 25, 2019, 6:39 PM

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AmidRTX12345

plucky isle Dec 25, 2019, 6:40 PM

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What

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Are u okay dave

timid dune Dec 25, 2019, 6:50 PM

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Playing Amid Evil for the first time since it was on sale for Christmas.
This feels so much more fun to play than to watch

dire briar Dec 25, 2019, 7:07 PM

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Most games do

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Besides QWOP

vestal palm Dec 25, 2019, 7:31 PM

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the new level is pretty fun and gorgeous, if a bit linear

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the 2 fights leading to the gold key could use more ground enemies and fights on the water too

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great stuff as always, thanks for the christmas build

timid dune Dec 25, 2019, 7:53 PM

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@dire briar Yeah that does go for most games honestly

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I keep forgetting that because I usually try to judge if i wanna buy a game based on just, gameplay videos.

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But even then that doesn't always quite do it justice

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I didn't think I'd enjoy AE as much as I am now.

crystal spruce Dec 25, 2019, 8:27 PM

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What were the major inspirations behind Amid Evil? I can bet it was either Heretic or Hexen.

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AmidRTX12345 is a beta code y'all

plucky isle Dec 25, 2019, 9:09 PM

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rtx level gud

gloomy comet Dec 25, 2019, 9:44 PM

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@frosty drift yeah, it seems like that even if I think that on 120fps is tiny faster then 60fps, I have to make a comparison video to be sure

crystal spruce Dec 25, 2019, 9:59 PM

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Bouta test amid evil with my new computer

frail hound Dec 25, 2019, 10:12 PM

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just beat the level

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👌

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I'm guessing RTX build has just that one level

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I was able to load my old auto saves fine, but effects didn't work obv

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https://twitter.com/newblood_txt/status/1209959427769610240

new_blood.txt (@newblood_txt)

#RTXOn

vestal palm Dec 25, 2019, 10:14 PM

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fyi you can load any level you want with aeleon

frail hound Dec 25, 2019, 10:14 PM

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rtx carries over?

vestal palm Dec 25, 2019, 10:14 PM

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yes

frail hound Dec 25, 2019, 10:14 PM

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I noticed it on my old levels, just not as prevalent - maybe they need another pass or it's not as obvious as I imagined

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looked rad though!

void horizon Dec 25, 2019, 10:25 PM

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Naw it's just that the change is pretty subtle

frail hound Dec 25, 2019, 10:26 PM

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would rather that tbh

void horizon Dec 25, 2019, 10:26 PM

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RTX honestly doesn't do much more than good PBR unless you've got really apparent reflective surfaces or moving GI lights etc

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At least in this case, where tbh Leon and Simon already did a really good job with the base reflections/lighting/etc

frail hound Dec 25, 2019, 10:27 PM

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yeah

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still, nice to see its implementation on something that isn't a big multi million dollar production

winged ibex Dec 25, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Pretty sure AE's DXR implementation is mostly just reflections and shadows?

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No AO or GI.

frail hound Dec 25, 2019, 10:28 PM

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Like Q2 RTX you mean?

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Q2 RTX is kind of the tour de force of RTX, as I understand it

void horizon Dec 25, 2019, 10:30 PM

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There was a point where GI was in there but the difference invisuals was super subtle. Unsure if it's still in or not. I've been a bit out of the loop

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But yeah it's not the whole renderer like with Q2RTX

frail hound Dec 25, 2019, 10:31 PM

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or this... lol

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https://twitter.com/newblood_txt/status/1107320864280887296

new_blood.txt (@newblood_txt)

https://t.co/ov3nPQrq5v

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466

crystal spruce Dec 25, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Wow.

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Is that like a mod or something?

winged ibex Dec 25, 2019, 10:32 PM

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No.

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Was just a fan mockup I'm pretty sure.

void horizon Dec 25, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Yeah just a mock-up someone did

crystal spruce Dec 25, 2019, 10:32 PM

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Looks like source engine.

plucky isle Dec 25, 2019, 10:36 PM

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source 2

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Dusk VR confirmed

crystal spruce Dec 25, 2019, 10:40 PM

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That would be amazing.

fringe flint Dec 25, 2019, 11:44 PM

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mmm, that new level is sexy even without RTX

proper oxide Dec 25, 2019, 11:44 PM

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Amid Sneeze

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Achoo

winged ibex Dec 25, 2019, 11:46 PM

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📎 unknown.png

night ginkgo Dec 25, 2019, 11:47 PM

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thanks m8

wind trench Dec 26, 2019, 1:27 AM

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So I just finished E2 of AE, and it seems like I have my trifecta of weapons I use - the celestial claw / voltride/ star

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not using warrior mode. I wanted auto soul on, but it doesn’t seem like it’s workin. Maybe I’m doin it backwards

crystal spruce Dec 26, 2019, 1:30 AM

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I cannot stand how beautiful this game looks that I can’t even play right.

weary solar Dec 26, 2019, 2:38 AM

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if you have a 144hz screen for instance and your pc can handle it then capping your fps to 240 should do it``` I would think just removing the unlimited fps setting from the fps limiter would solve overspeed issues

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I set it to 240 just because while there is a very, very small input lag difference between 240 and 300 (that doesn't matter outside of competitive fps games)
I value smoothness of input as much as low input lag.

crystal spruce Dec 26, 2019, 3:42 AM

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Can AE be played with a 3.60 GHz?

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processor?

fringe flint Dec 26, 2019, 3:42 AM

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haha yeah

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my cpu is an i5, few years old, 3.2GHz, I play AE on max settings

crystal spruce Dec 26, 2019, 3:44 AM

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📎 cpu.PNG

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I also have an AMD Radeon RX 580 graphics card.

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TIP: don't buy the Warrior Edition, it charges you $22.49. Get the game and soundtrack separately within your cart, you'll only be charged $22.48 - saving you one cent ($0.01)!

split fossil Dec 26, 2019, 3:58 AM

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stonks

crystal spruce Dec 26, 2019, 3:59 AM

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Indeed.

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What if I just buy it twice then.

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Then you're Evil.

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I’ll buy it twice

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aethink

proper oxide Dec 26, 2019, 5:07 PM

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Don’t you guys hate it when u have a nice conversation with Leon but then he turns into this

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And starts going https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Dfb_n7wjb5k

YouTube

Hephesus

Lavos Screech

Really youtube? no one had uploaded this before? are you kidding me? IT TOOK LIKE 20 SECONDS YOU LAZY BASTARDS.

If I wanted to do it myself, I wouldnt have looked on the internet damn it.

▶ Play video

crystal spruce Dec 26, 2019, 5:11 PM

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i am

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uteraly disturbed

brazen forge Dec 26, 2019, 5:12 PM

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Yeah, ffs leon

magic panther Dec 26, 2019, 5:39 PM

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I'm not seeing any RTX reflections

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also the framerate does not change

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is there anything else you have to do to activate it?

vestal palm Dec 26, 2019, 5:42 PM

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you sure you're in the beta branch?

magic panther Dec 26, 2019, 5:42 PM

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yes

vestal palm Dec 26, 2019, 5:43 PM

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huh, weird

gloomy comet Dec 26, 2019, 6:33 PM

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MMMM no GOG love I guess?

tall temple Dec 26, 2019, 6:35 PM

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RTX will come to GOG when its fully released. what people have now is just a test build

gloomy comet Dec 26, 2019, 6:36 PM

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GOG really need to support test build too... well, I guess I'll wait then, thank you <3

dire briar Dec 26, 2019, 8:28 PM

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https://www.pcgamer.com/amid-evil-brought-back-the-glorious-heavy-metal-schlock-of-90s-pc-shooters/

pcgamer

Amid Evil brought back the glorious heavy metal schlock of '90s PC...

High speed movement, jagged pixels, a staff that throws planets. Amid Evil was one of the best shooters of the year.

manic dragon Dec 26, 2019, 8:31 PM

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Dusk more like it

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but okay

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YesIStoleThisEmoteFromLeon

old kelp Dec 26, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Axe

fresh plume Dec 26, 2019, 9:33 PM

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"Amid Evil brought back"

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laughs in Dusk

frosty drift Dec 26, 2019, 9:33 PM

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ae music > dusk music

fresh plume Dec 26, 2019, 9:36 PM

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ok except you're objectively wrong

rustic barn Dec 26, 2019, 9:36 PM

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If you think that ae music > dusk music

📎 deathpenalty.gif 📎 image0-16-1-1.gif

fresh plume Dec 26, 2019, 9:36 PM

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^

frosty drift Dec 26, 2019, 9:37 PM

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absolutely

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ae is better in most cases 🙂

fresh plume Dec 26, 2019, 9:37 PM

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in most cases it's equally good, and in the rest it's marginally worse

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dab

frosty drift Dec 26, 2019, 9:38 PM

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nop

fresh plume Dec 26, 2019, 9:38 PM

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yes

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though i will say

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ae has the better final boss

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i love you ||stephen weyte|| but your moveset is WEAK

lethal elk Dec 26, 2019, 9:58 PM

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but ur Canadian

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So by default ur wrong

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dancetiem

crystal spruce Dec 26, 2019, 10:00 PM

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Sorry gamers

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Undertale was game of the year 2019

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Undertale is only good on the first or second playthrough really. And that game came out years ago.

worn pewter Dec 26, 2019, 10:29 PM

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i got a lil question, is there any chance any of the games will be on the xbox gamepass for windows 10?

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@dire briar pls dont vaporize me i played rott to get the reference

gloomy comet Dec 26, 2019, 11:23 PM

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@crystal spruce lol how many times you finish a game XD?

crystal spruce Dec 26, 2019, 11:24 PM

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@gloomy comet depending on how many levels there are.

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I mostly spend 15 to 25 minutes on a dusk level, not sure about amid evil though.

proper oxide Dec 27, 2019, 12:01 AM

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cant believe aes weapons are so good yet leon designed the rott2013 shotgun sadboy

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 12:02 AM

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I DID NOT

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the only weapon thing I was involved with was the firebomb dunking on alt fire

plucky isle Dec 27, 2019, 12:02 AM

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oh hi mark

proper oxide Dec 27, 2019, 12:03 AM

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leon why would you make the rott2013 shotgun so bad

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you hurt you

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the worst thing is leon also did the room, and only filled it with shotguns

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 12:04 AM

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I did 1/2 of the room

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it was harder before I touched it

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my levels are
E2L3
E3L1
E3L2
E4L2
E4L3
E4L5

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I also finished off a lot of levels that were half done but it was mainly functionality and visuals rather than design

proper oxide Dec 27, 2019, 12:05 AM

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leon also does the voice for the guy who calls you an infidel

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 12:07 AM

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nah I did el oscuro snake form

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I can't remember who did the infidel voice

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it sounds like dave to me

manic dragon Dec 27, 2019, 12:20 AM

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dont forget youre talking with man responsible for bombshell

proper oxide Dec 27, 2019, 12:22 AM

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you can tell which levels leon worked on because they are usually boring and uninspired, much like bombshell

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good thing simon was here to carry ae dev forward this time around

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 12:35 AM

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yeah

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simon made everything in AE

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all I made was the terrible font and screen flashes

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 12:36 AM

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Then what did you do?

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Oh.

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Figure out that Sprite FPS bug yet?

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At least the fonts are nice lol

proper oxide Dec 27, 2019, 12:37 AM

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he also shat on daves lawn, posted zawussy pics to twitter for e-fame and ordered chinese food

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 12:37 AM

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Figure out that Sprite FPS bug yet?

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nah it's christmas and stuff

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I'll take a look next week probs

lethal elk Dec 27, 2019, 12:37 AM

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the font gave it soul

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 12:38 AM

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Sure, was just curious. I just bought the game, I think I'll wait to play it for a little bit since I play at 144Hz

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I bet david made the fonts

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Or dave

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I meant

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 12:39 AM

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the font is actually foughtknight

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https://www.dafont.com/foughtknight.font

FoughtKnight Font | dafont.com

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albiet edited

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I like it a lot, but lots of people have issues with it

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 12:40 AM

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Now I bet dave made foughtknight without anyone knowing.

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Or dafont I meant

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 1:24 AM

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haha yeah.

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Thanks Leon. I got what I wanted.

📎 20191226_173139.jpg

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 1:42 AM

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heh

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📎 FoughtKnightAE.ttf

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this is the AE version

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slightky different characters

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 1:45 AM

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Hey leon, what game inspired ae the most?

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 1:46 AM

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probably doom

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 1:52 AM

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But what about heretic and hexen?

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 1:54 AM

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little bit

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 1:54 AM

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But.

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Shouldn't it be the other way around?
I mean how is ae like doom at all?

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 1:56 AM

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the combat

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 1:56 AM

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But the critics said that ae was very heretic like.

proper oxide Dec 27, 2019, 1:57 AM

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iirc ae wasnt a love letter to doom or hexen, it was just the game they wanted to make

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 1:57 AM

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Well, ae was originally to be a doom mod.

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 1:57 AM

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sorta

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it was a name we had from way back

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 1:58 AM

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I'd imagine that alternative universe where ae was a doom mod instead of an UE4 thing.

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Bet it would've flopped.

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 2:10 AM

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what

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it was like just a level set lol

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there was this whole other game design for AE with top down game play

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 2:12 AM

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Leon, AE is the most Heretic game of 2019.

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And you're saying it's Doom that's the most similar instead of Heretic?

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 2:13 AM

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you said what inspired us to make it

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defo doom

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there were a lot of different games that inspired AE

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a quick list would be:

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Doom
Quake
Gods
Amulets and Armour
Heretic/Hexen
Anachronox
Shadowcaster
Blood Omen

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 2:15 AM

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Noted.

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Thanks.

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 2:33 AM

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Im so good at english bro

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And I need sleep

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But anyway hey leon why do the celestial claw planets move at 15 frames per a second?

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 2:52 AM

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hmm?

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 3:01 AM

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The animations for the planets in the celestial claw have low frame rates, any reason why they’re like that?

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 3:02 AM

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yeah

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because simon thought it was cool

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same with the water anims and stuff

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 3:04 AM

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Ah

fringe flint Dec 27, 2019, 3:59 AM

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man, Anachronox, I remember that game

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been a while

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 4:04 AM

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great game

weary solar Dec 27, 2019, 4:35 AM

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Great game.................................................................................|| cliffhanger ending sucks though||

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I have to wonder if that was the fault of publishers though.

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Lots of game seem to be pulling that bullshit around that time.

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Ground Control 1, 2, and the expansion packs all end in cliffhanger endings. Its absolute madness.

night ginkgo Dec 27, 2019, 6:36 AM

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Yeah I also recall Tom Hall saying he'd release the script for anachronox 2 a while back

rustic barn Dec 27, 2019, 3:26 PM

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I'm blue da ba dee zawada

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 4:23 PM

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Congrats Amid Evil for being the 21st century Heretic.

proper oxide Dec 27, 2019, 4:23 PM

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congrats amid evil for surviving another dave dev cycle

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 4:24 PM

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Well Amid Evil won the best new game award on steam.

proper oxide Dec 27, 2019, 4:24 PM

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wait really?

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 4:24 PM

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I'd say this is pretty much Heretic 3.

proper oxide Dec 27, 2019, 4:25 PM

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what best new game?

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im not seeing anything about ae winning an award

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 4:26 PM

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Maybe not an award but.

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https://store.steampowered.com/sale/2019_top_new

Best of 2019 - Top Releases

This list a compilation of our monthly top release lists that were created over the course of 2019. We've also listed the overall top 12 game releases of 2019. We measure top releases by looking at a game's total revenue generated during the first two weeks after its release....

proper oxide Dec 27, 2019, 4:27 PM

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ah

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yeah that isnt an award lol

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still cool tho

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 4:27 PM

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I know.

frosty drift Dec 27, 2019, 4:31 PM

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Wew it's all weebshit in here

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 5:06 PM

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Avain, you are worthy.

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Could my processor run AE?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367135220241137667/659602323445645362/cpu.PNG

tall temple Dec 27, 2019, 5:08 PM

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Yes

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 5:09 PM

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What about my AMD Radeon Rx 580 Graphics Card?

manic dragon Dec 27, 2019, 5:09 PM

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it runs

lethal elk Dec 27, 2019, 5:09 PM

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ye

tall temple Dec 27, 2019, 5:09 PM

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Yes but that's a horrible combo. That 580 is bottlenecked

manic dragon Dec 27, 2019, 5:09 PM

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it will work with AE anyway

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 5:10 PM

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Thanks.

manic dragon Dec 27, 2019, 5:10 PM

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worse case with more demanding games

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 5:10 PM

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AE and Dusk can last me long enough to save money for new hardware approved

rustic barn Dec 27, 2019, 5:12 PM

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anon is so brave, getting out of his room on a quest for tendies

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also i just realized why i didn't like playing amid evil

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85 default fov

lethal elk Dec 27, 2019, 5:14 PM

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Isn’t that 110 fov In other games?

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Because the scaling is weird in amid

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 5:19 PM

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@tall temple sorry for the ping but how and why would my 580 be bottlenecked? I'm not an expert on things like these so please do explain.

tall temple Dec 27, 2019, 5:21 PM

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GPU bottleneck is when the GPU ends up waiting on the CPU to do its job. A slow CPU like that i3 is preventing you from taking full advantage of your 580 or any decent GPU

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 5:22 PM

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Which means the most important thing is to get a new CPU?

tall temple Dec 27, 2019, 5:23 PM

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For you, yes. I would look into i5s or i7s that fit your current socket. It would be a night and day difference for you

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A new GPU would be a waste of money till then

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 5:24 PM

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Noted- thank you.

rustic barn Dec 27, 2019, 5:29 PM

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what the fuck

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slate sorrel Dec 27, 2019, 5:29 PM

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What am I looking at here

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 5:42 PM

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Amid Evil gets a best david bowie album of the decade award.

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Andrew Hulshult's ost seems more like a c418 album tbh.

nocturne tapir Dec 27, 2019, 5:51 PM

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[diidjiil intensifies]

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 6:07 PM

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@nocturne tapir you're my new favorite boomer.

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That username is amazing, I too, shill Amid Evil.

nocturne tapir Dec 27, 2019, 6:08 PM

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Thanks zoomer :v

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 6:08 PM

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BIGJOHN

nocturne tapir Dec 27, 2019, 6:08 PM

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I was given the shill suffix by our lord skeleton and i wear it with pride

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 6:17 PM

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I'm keeping this username until Leon changes AE name to Heretic III.

manic dragon Dec 27, 2019, 6:23 PM

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where do you pay those shills leon

lethal elk Dec 27, 2019, 6:23 PM

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akkodie

nocturne tapir Dec 27, 2019, 6:31 PM

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he ships chinese food from NZ

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 8:22 PM

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Leon, rename AE to Heretic III.

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Please.

tall temple Dec 27, 2019, 8:28 PM

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why would we want to give raven software money? because thats what you're asking us to do lulspin

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 8:29 PM

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If I were you I'd do anything do get a Heretic 3.

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Money is only a bit of a bother.

proper oxide Dec 27, 2019, 8:29 PM

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yeah lets spend about uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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several mil

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getting the ip

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just like people tell us to get the blood ip

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v.simple

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 8:30 PM

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Okay, money is a bad idea.

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Got it.

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But I'd die to see Heretic 3 nevertheless.

proper oxide Dec 27, 2019, 8:31 PM

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https://twitter.com/NewBlood/status/1057924880920862721?s=20

New Blood Interactive (@NewBlood)

We love you and we hate money! https://t.co/oEIaEfX03G

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 8:31 PM

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As long as it's not in 3rd person as how 2 was.

proper oxide Dec 27, 2019, 8:31 PM

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we hate money

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 8:31 PM

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I know.

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But you told us to waste money on your games.

rustic barn Dec 27, 2019, 8:33 PM

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new blood doesn't hate money

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it's a corporate trick!!!!!

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 8:36 PM

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🚨

frosty drift Dec 27, 2019, 8:37 PM

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all the money we get will be put into a random warehouse in the desert never to be seen again

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and that's so we can remove as much money from society as possible

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because we hate it

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 8:38 PM

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Makes total sense.

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Can you tell me where that warehouse is, Avain?

frosty drift Dec 27, 2019, 8:48 PM

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no

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 8:48 PM

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If you hate them, lemme have it.

frosty drift Dec 27, 2019, 8:48 PM

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the only thing i can tell is the location of the nearest beatmania cab from your house

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 8:49 PM

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How typical of you to think I would even make one step to a beatmania at all.

frosty drift Dec 27, 2019, 8:49 PM

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that's very unfortunate

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 8:50 PM

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*fortunate.

flat whale Dec 27, 2019, 8:50 PM

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amid evil is heretic 7

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cos theres 7 episodes

frosty drift Dec 27, 2019, 8:50 PM

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come on now, it's time to be a hero

lofty thistle Dec 27, 2019, 8:51 PM

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herotic

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 8:58 PM

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Heretic, more like,
Pathetic.

crystal spruce Dec 27, 2019, 9:49 PM

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Thats an odd profile picture right there.

weary solar Dec 27, 2019, 11:26 PM

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id like Amid Evil coop but looks like not gonna happen any time soon

quick python Dec 27, 2019, 11:54 PM

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Welp now I own DUSK AND AMID EVIL wassup G

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 12:50 AM

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If amid evil ever gets any multiplayer components.

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@crystal spruce it's one of the concept arts.

rustic barn Dec 28, 2019, 12:57 AM

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@crystal spruce devs stated in the dusk stream they won't be doing AE multiplayer since it's a waste of dev time

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 12:57 AM

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Yeah I know.

rustic barn Dec 28, 2019, 12:57 AM

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and modding is impossible unfortunately, so

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egg

proper oxide Dec 28, 2019, 1:18 AM

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leon zawada more like leon bazawadinga

rustic barn Dec 28, 2019, 2:25 AM

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God damn it, I'm blue da ba dee zawada is such a good joke and nobody even reacted

night ginkgo Dec 28, 2019, 2:37 AM

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wat

proper oxide Dec 28, 2019, 2:49 AM

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leon ae dev is done stop checking this channel

brazen forge Dec 28, 2019, 2:50 AM

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This channel belongs to Quantis Gelgado

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 3:01 AM

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ae is over

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Go home

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 11:04 AM

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Well we still need to rename AE to Heretic III, right?

night ginkgo Dec 28, 2019, 11:07 AM

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https://tenor.com/view/nick-young-what-huh-wait-what-wtf-gif-4793800

Tenor

nick young

▶ Play video

queen leaf Dec 28, 2019, 11:08 AM

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emoji_61

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 11:08 AM

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You know you want to, leon.

manic dragon Dec 28, 2019, 11:09 AM

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YesIStoleThisEmoteFromLeon

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 11:09 AM

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I've purposefully made my name like this so that everytime you see me you're gonna see AE as Heretic 3

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No escape.

manic dragon Dec 28, 2019, 11:10 AM

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i dont see ae as heretic

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 11:10 AM

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aethink

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I mean, AE isn't like doom at all, it's more like doom with a makeover of magic and fantasy elements, very Heretic.

lethal elk Dec 28, 2019, 11:13 AM

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heretic is doom tho GWchadMEGATHINK

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 11:13 AM

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I just said.

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Heretic is doom with magic/fantasy elements.

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Therefore, AE is more like Heretic than Doom, concluding the idea that AE is basically Heretic III.

manic dragon Dec 28, 2019, 11:15 AM

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heretic is doom dark fantasy copypasta

lethal elk Dec 28, 2019, 11:15 AM

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no

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Rekt

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 11:15 AM

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Not sure how that's a rekt but ok

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And ffs John Romero approved Heretic

manic dragon Dec 28, 2019, 11:16 AM

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but he didnt approved Heretic II

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nor Amid Evil

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🤔

frosty drift Dec 28, 2019, 11:16 AM

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Romero who?

lethal elk Dec 28, 2019, 11:17 AM

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he’s the guy who made amid evil

night ginkgo Dec 28, 2019, 11:18 AM

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as far as I understand it id software got raven to make heretic for them

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it was a romero game

tardy cove Dec 28, 2019, 11:19 AM

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Besides the fantasy theme, AE has little to do with Heretic tbh

night ginkgo Dec 28, 2019, 11:20 AM

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^

manic dragon Dec 28, 2019, 11:23 AM

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ae dosent copy the other vidya, its crap on its own

night ginkgo Dec 28, 2019, 11:23 AM

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yeah

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wait a minute

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wat

lethal elk Dec 28, 2019, 11:24 AM

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delet, ae is a pure geam

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D_PepegaCry

manic dragon Dec 28, 2019, 11:25 AM

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YesIStoleThisEmoteFromLeon

queen leaf Dec 28, 2019, 11:36 AM

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WhatYouSay

winged ibex Dec 28, 2019, 12:37 PM

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If you really think about it AE is a Pain Killer and ROTT clone.

manic dragon Dec 28, 2019, 12:37 PM

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and both stink

night ginkgo Dec 28, 2019, 12:38 PM

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If you really think about it AE is a pong clone

winged ibex Dec 28, 2019, 12:38 PM

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If you really think about it AE is a Rogue Warrior clone.

marsh flax Dec 28, 2019, 12:42 PM

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if you really think about it, heretic is an AE clone

rustic barn Dec 28, 2019, 12:55 PM

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the redditor guys keeps being cringe

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 5:42 PM

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@rustic barn no u

lilac copper Dec 28, 2019, 5:43 PM

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redditor light theme users

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what ever will we do

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

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I never bothered to change the theme to dark mode.

rustic barn Dec 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

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r/dankmemes user spotted

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ooga booga

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 5:44 PM

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Wrong

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I never visited r/dankmemes.

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r/cursed was close enough

rustic barn Dec 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

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where's my wholesome big chungus keanu reeves minecraft armor fortnite bad approved by reddit meme

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

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Cursed images are more pleasant than dank memes tbh

tall temple Dec 28, 2019, 5:46 PM

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cool AE chat

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 5:47 PM

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Fair enough, I guess.

📎 20191228_094703.jpg

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Storywise, of course not. The fantasy theme is the main reason why AE is very Heretic-ish. From the weapons to levels to enemies, pretty much Heretic.

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Like I've said before, heretic is pretty much doom with magic sticks.

fringe flint Dec 28, 2019, 10:35 PM

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oh shit i just saw that AE was on the Steam top releases of 2019

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heh, and leon actually seemed a bit nervous about the launch

misty jewel Dec 28, 2019, 10:41 PM

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are the weapons sprites or models animated to look like sprites

manic dragon Dec 28, 2019, 10:43 PM

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yes

empty pebble Dec 28, 2019, 10:50 PM

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Hello, Amid Evil is cool

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 11:12 PM

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I couldn't agree more.

📎 SPOILER_Amid_Evil_12_28_2019_5_50_50_PM.png

proper oxide Dec 28, 2019, 11:13 PM

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welcome to the r e d z o n e

crystal spruce Dec 28, 2019, 11:14 PM

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I also finally made my first review on steam.

nocturne tapir Dec 29, 2019, 1:08 AM

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i thought Rad-guana posted a meme spoiler but i absolutely agree i fucking love that level

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Amid Evil's worlds nail so many themes i'm a sucker for and none of them sucker me more than the final episode

shadow seal Dec 29, 2019, 2:13 AM

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That red level image reminds me of something I noticed back in the episode 7 beta. Somewhere in that level (I think just through that portal) there are two diamond shaped portals stacked on top of each other and the top portal doesnt take you anywhere. I dont know where I am going with this, but I always thought there should have been a secret there.

night ginkgo Dec 29, 2019, 2:31 AM

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Oh I think it leads from somewhere

crystal spruce Dec 29, 2019, 3:34 AM

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Hey leon how difficult is it to fix glitches in ae?

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If there was many during the development and release.

devout olive Dec 29, 2019, 3:38 AM

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there were a few crazy ones but fortunately most weren't all too bad

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enough so that most of the bugs I found while testing the game were simple enough that I was even able to diagnose what the problem was and literally took leon like 5 minutes to fix

crystal spruce Dec 29, 2019, 3:57 AM

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I’ve been getting and seeing a few errors recently, like hands of evil being flung around in The Abyss.

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And sometimes theres tiny holes that lead outside the map, but those aren’t really noticeable.

devout olive Dec 29, 2019, 3:59 AM

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feel free to leave reports on the steam discussion forums LeonApproved

crystal spruce Dec 29, 2019, 4:01 AM

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Will do.

gloomy comet Dec 29, 2019, 9:51 AM

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There is no ETA for next official patch, right?

tardy cove Dec 29, 2019, 9:51 AM

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soon

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As always

gloomy comet Dec 29, 2019, 9:54 AM

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I guess I need to play some other boomer shooter in meantime XD

devout olive Dec 29, 2019, 9:55 AM

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the RTX demo level should be out soon but as always no set date.

gloomy comet Dec 29, 2019, 9:55 AM

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So isn't the whole game in Rtx?

devout olive Dec 29, 2019, 9:55 AM

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yes, the whole game will have rtx

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the demo level is just designed to show off as much rtx technology as we can muster

gloomy comet Dec 29, 2019, 9:56 AM

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So it's going to take months to have the full rtx patch on gog?

devout olive Dec 29, 2019, 9:57 AM

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no set date.

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soon is all I can say

gloomy comet Dec 29, 2019, 9:59 AM

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I don't even know how it will run sadly since there is no beta thing on gog, can you tell me at least the % impact of rtx on the game? I have an rtx 2060

devout olive Dec 29, 2019, 10:00 AM

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I haven't been testing rtx features since I don't have an rtx capable system, so I can't comment on that

gloomy comet Dec 29, 2019, 10:00 AM

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Ok, thanks anyway :)

bold yarrow Dec 29, 2019, 10:03 AM

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This is honestly the first game that has made me want to get a powerhouse pc.

rustic barn Dec 29, 2019, 10:28 AM

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does it run like shit on your pc

cerulean oyster Dec 29, 2019, 10:30 AM

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Is the game well optimized or do you need a high end pc to play it comfortably?

queen leaf Dec 29, 2019, 10:35 AM

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I'd say it's well optimised, although don't have a low end or even modest rig to test it on but from what I've heard it scales well and if all else fails you can downsample the resolution (even turning off filters to make it all pixelly)

cerulean oyster Dec 29, 2019, 10:38 AM

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nice, I'll give it a try

soft bramble Dec 29, 2019, 11:00 AM

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I'm having one of those days where I feel like travelling to an unknown dimension such as that of the moon guardian and murdering it with a boat propeller

night ginkgo Dec 29, 2019, 11:15 AM

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heh

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the patch will be hopefully early next year

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we're taking a break at the moment

rustic barn Dec 29, 2019, 11:16 AM

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uhuh sure thing non gamer

proper oxide Dec 29, 2019, 12:21 PM

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One of those famous “Dave breaks”

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Friday: “Take a two week break guys”
Saturday: “WHERES THE SCREENSHOTS FOR SCREENSHOT SATURDAY?????”

night ginkgo Dec 29, 2019, 12:25 PM

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Yes exactly

crystal spruce Dec 29, 2019, 12:51 PM

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Leon: sleep and chill
Zombie: AHHHHHHHH

night ginkgo Dec 29, 2019, 1:17 PM

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Andrew: plays guitar

gusty kite Dec 30, 2019, 2:56 AM

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Me: waking up early

knotty imp Dec 30, 2019, 3:04 AM

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ready to make my gpu cry

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:05 AM

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Wait what is happening?

knotty imp Dec 30, 2019, 3:05 AM

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https://steamcommunity.com/games/673130/announcements/detail/1696100248040858937

Steam :: AMID EVIL :: RTX Beta Available Now!

Champions! The rumors are true...

The AMID EVIL RTX beta is here!

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:07 AM

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Oooh need to test my 2080 Super on it.

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I was going to play Quake II RTX but they pushed out a patch right when I was about to play it. I was using a custom exe compatible with the Mission Packs. Need to check into that again.

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Downloading the beta ;o

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:12 AM

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We should all try it.

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https://youtu.be/9_XDlIxAkFs

YouTube

Linus Tech Tips

Was RTX a big scam? – Performance & image quality analysis

Grab the Volta XL magnetic charging cable on Amazon at https://lmg.gg/amazonvoltaxl or their main website at https://www.voltacharger.com

Setup your game server with AMP at https://cubecoders.com/AMP/

We didn’t care much for RTX when it launched… And now that RTX is ava...

▶ Play video

plucky isle Dec 30, 2019, 3:12 AM

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is that young Gabe Newell lmao

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:13 AM

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Depending on exactly what RTX features were implemented, you might be able to play it just fine even without an RTX card.

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:13 AM

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RTX is a new tech so it doesn't run great right now, I expect it to me more mainstream with the 3000 series GPUs.

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:13 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/506723039245893654/661044159657934858/unknown.png

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Quake 2 RTX runs like trash at 1440p on a 2080 Super.

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:14 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/506723039245893654/661044316302475274/unknown.png

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Have to play Quake 2 at 1080p

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:14 AM

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Quake 2 runs like trash at 1440p on a 2080 Super. I thought Quake 2 uses path tracing, not ray tracing.

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:14 AM

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I think alot of RTX games don't run well above 1080p

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:15 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/506723039245893654/661044642867052544/unknown.png

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:15 AM

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Yeah it is path tracing.

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:16 AM

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Some games just kill performance without an RTX card though, some don't, it all depends on the RT features used.

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:16 AM

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I still need to pickup Control. I really want to play it on PC but I've been so busy with other stuff.

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:17 AM

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Honestly? They did so well with "current methods" that enabling RTX in that game doesn't impress me.

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:17 AM

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I'm looking forward to Watch Dogs with RTX.

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:18 AM

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Of the ray traced features, what impresses me the most has been ray traced ambient occlusion.

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Ray traced reflections are nice, but the real world isn't made of mirrors.

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Global Illumination is also a big improvement, but not something i would sacrifice a halving of frame rate over.

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:20 AM

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I'm currently running a 8086k, I hope to be switching to an AMD Ryzen 4950X or equivalent when it comes out if it supports DDR5.

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Otherwise I'll probably sit on my 8086k until AMD supports DDR5.

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:23 AM

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I'm not upgrading until I start CPU bottlenecking, which isn't gonna happen any time soon.

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:24 AM

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I'm getting sick of flaws and bugs with Intel. I miss AMD.

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:24 AM

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8700K with 6 core @ 4.7 or 5 isn't going to be holding me back any time soon I hope.

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:25 AM

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My 8086k is basically a binned 8700k

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:25 AM

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I've never bought an AMD product, only thing is a card from AMD when AMD was still ATi

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which was legit decades ago

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:26 AM

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Thing is I still play old and retro games and MMOs which end up being single thread heavy games.

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:28 AM

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I hear you.

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Thats why I've always bought Intel for the best single thread performance though.

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:29 AM

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Seems like its not that bad anymore

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According to Passmark the 3950X has better single core performance than the 8086k and 9700k by like 7-10%

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:32 AM

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Could be.

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:33 AM

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According to PassMark 3950X has 3008 single thread and the 9900KS has 3010 single thread. But overall score is 36k to 21.5k. Ryzen seems to be getting really good.

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:33 AM

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I wouldn't say they are bad, just that Intel has consistently been a bit better.

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If that is worth the cost or not is entirely up to the builder.

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 3:34 AM

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Either way I'm definitely buying the first flagship Ryzen 9 that supports DDR5.

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 3:34 AM

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Obviously console manufacturers prefer AMD as a lower cost solution, then they put money into the GPU.

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I'm not buying the flagship of anything anytime soon.

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If my CPU isn't bottlenecking me then I don't see the point.

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Its nice that AMD has been getting better though.

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This system of duo monopolies isn't good for progress in the videocard and cpu industries.

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Hopefully intel actually makes decent GPUs when they actually start getting serious about it.

knotty imp Dec 30, 2019, 3:45 AM

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it's too cinematic for my 1070

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593659589539397691/661052183386783757/AmidEvil-Win64-Shipping_2019-12-29_19-43-36.png

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it runs better than Quake 2 atleast

fresh plume Dec 30, 2019, 3:48 AM

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d

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 4:02 AM

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Maybe you right.

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4950X, 32GB of DDR5, and a new motherboard. Looking at like 1500 dollars.

night ginkgo Dec 30, 2019, 5:13 AM

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play with the screen% and res scale options

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might get better performance

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 5:49 AM

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might get better performance``` yeah
also assuming that is 1440p, you could try reducing as much as 50% and then using nvidia sharpening to tighten it up again
I'm not sure if that will work with the "pixel art style" of this game though 🤔
in my testing with it, that seems to work best with games that have a lot of solids

tardy cove Dec 30, 2019, 7:46 AM

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The beta level is gorgeous

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I would love to see an episode with that theme, with its own enemies, music and all that stuff

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(I also found both secrets)

night ginkgo Dec 30, 2019, 8:00 AM

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ty

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how was it to play

frosty drift Dec 30, 2019, 8:06 AM

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I couldn't figure out how to select a track

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Pls make the music select menu in ae more clear

night ginkgo Dec 30, 2019, 8:11 AM

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wat

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you just click on em

frosty drift Dec 30, 2019, 8:14 AM

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Its not loading the chart wtf

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 8:53 AM

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Amid Evil is a great game btw have you heard?

manic dragon Dec 30, 2019, 8:53 AM

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r we going with sharpening again

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 10:07 AM

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it is

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best played on Hard and Extra Hard though

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the combat in some aspects is less twitch shooter and more methodical which is fine as long as failure to play smart results in steep consequences

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its the kind of game that we don't get very often anymore

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 12:23 PM

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RTX test level was very playable at 1440p on a 2080 super

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and then the forges happened

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very purty tho

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proper oxide Dec 30, 2019, 12:30 PM

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Hey leon how does it make you feel that David SINGS praises for amid evil but yet you’ve never once played dusk or duskworld and you talk mad shit about him on your dev server?

rustic barn Dec 30, 2019, 12:33 PM

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leon hasn't played dusk?

night ginkgo Dec 30, 2019, 12:36 PM

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Jab is trolling I've played dusk through twice

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Great game

rustic barn Dec 30, 2019, 12:36 PM

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is rtx out or something?

night ginkgo Dec 30, 2019, 12:36 PM

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I have played dusk world a few times

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Beta

rustic barn Dec 30, 2019, 12:37 PM

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how do i access it

proper oxide Dec 30, 2019, 12:37 PM

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By becoming die

night ginkgo Dec 30, 2019, 12:41 PM

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Read the announcement

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On steam

rustic barn Dec 30, 2019, 12:44 PM

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Done

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i hope it goes well on my 1070ti

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30 fps when looking at stuff

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80 fps when looking at the ground

night ginkgo Dec 30, 2019, 12:58 PM

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Sounds about right

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Try messing with the options

rustic barn Dec 30, 2019, 1:00 PM

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📎 unknown.png

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70 fps on low general settings

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with resolution scale set on 50

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playable

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i don't see rtx being a huge thing here though

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haha
if i choose low general settings and set res scale to 100 i get 20 fps when looking at that light puddle

night ginkgo Dec 30, 2019, 1:05 PM

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Yeah

rustic barn Dec 30, 2019, 1:05 PM

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lemme fuck with the options some more

manic dragon Dec 30, 2019, 1:06 PM

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rtx leon

rustic barn Dec 30, 2019, 1:08 PM

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70 fps all epic res scale 50

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📎 unknown.png

night ginkgo Dec 30, 2019, 1:09 PM

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Res scale helps the most because of the amount of pixels is exponential

rustic barn Dec 30, 2019, 1:13 PM

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yep

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50 res scale all epic - 82
50 res scale all low - 88

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📎 unknown.png

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Conclusion:
1070ti
i5 8600 3.10 GHz 6 cores
AE RTX is not recommended on such setup

tacit quartz Dec 30, 2019, 1:18 PM

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of course it's not good

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you need an actual RTX card

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and even then it won't perform good

rustic barn Dec 30, 2019, 1:22 PM

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why won't an RTX card not perform good?

night ginkgo Dec 30, 2019, 1:30 PM

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It runs fine since it's currently just reflections

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Full rtx features are super heavy

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Like GI, shadows, and AO

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 1:41 PM

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RTX isn't going to "run good" until 3000 series GPUs.

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It might run at acceptable levels though.

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Just depends on how its implemented.

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he doesn't have RTX shadows

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cringe leon

slate sorrel Dec 30, 2019, 1:59 PM

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The human eye can only see 30 fps anyways

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 2:00 PM

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🤦‍♂️

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The RTX is real.

fierce nymph Dec 30, 2019, 7:16 PM

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But the RTX is on Unreal

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Welcome to 20XX series beta card testing

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 10:19 PM

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Was the Axe inspired by Quake's axe?

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 10:51 PM

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the whole RTX thing could not be timed better lmao

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getting a new rig in a few weeks

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with RTX card

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goodbye GTX 1070

manic dragon Dec 30, 2019, 10:52 PM

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unless nvidia announce new series which is more competent on raytracing

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leonthink

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 10:55 PM

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I hope not

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atleast not for a bit

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already have the thing planned out

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:21 PM

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unless your current card isn't cutting it anymore i would very much wait for the RTX 2100 series of GPUs

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:23 PM

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for what I wanna play the GTX 1070 is starting to show its age

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also brand new GPUs are expensive as hell

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I'd rather just be slightly behind the curve with affordable rigs

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(And by new I mean new series)

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:24 PM

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i would save the money for the next generation Ti

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:24 PM

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im not buying used parts lmao

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still too pricy for me

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:25 PM

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i would assume that the next generation of cards is going to be effected by whatever microsoft and sony consoles have as GPUs

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the specifics of those cards is not known

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:26 PM

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um

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the only thing shown is a rumor

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and the release only says "2020"

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thats too general for me

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Id rather just upgrade now

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:26 PM

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its your call

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i just wouldn't do it

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i have a 1080Ti

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:27 PM

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by 2020 that would mean like "January 2020" or "December 2020"

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:27 PM

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the RTX cards have too much unproven technology on them that I am skeptical about

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:27 PM

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and im not waiting an entire year for a new series

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most people don't get RTX for the "RTX part of it"

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:28 PM

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they do pay for it though

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:28 PM

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they get them because it has more power than the GTX 1080 on its own

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more power

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also its newer and stuff

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:28 PM

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are you familiar with the hybrid ray tracing stuff from AMD?

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:28 PM

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no

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:29 PM

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https://static.techspot.com/images2/news/bigimage/2019/06/2019-06-28-image-18.jpg

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:29 PM

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and tbh I heard too many horror stories about AMD GPUs to really consider them

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:29 PM

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i've never owned a AMD product that wasn't labelled ATi

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:29 PM

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I see

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I have a friend that used to have an AMD GPU

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:30 PM

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AMD is going to shape the market though

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:30 PM

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thing took a crap on him in less than 2 years

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it seems currently AMD GPUs don't age well

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:30 PM

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AMD GPUs are what are used in consoles

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:30 PM

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consoles are still a bit behind current gen PCs

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even 9th gen will be

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I mean yeah it will be compareable for a bit but you know it will use cheaper parts

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also console hardware is usually specialized

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so ofcourse it will last and stuff

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:32 PM

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whatever ray tracing solutions AMD has for the consoles, will be fully embraced by developers
so RTX might become irrelevant
how many people do you hear talking about DLSS anymore?

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:33 PM

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consoles are what you get if you just wanna play games and have no setup. Yeah there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. But PCs are what you get if you are an enthusiast and want the best.

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I never really heard of DLSS to begin with

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AMD did push out some impressive GPUs i'll admit. But if they won't last then I'm not buying

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I hear the complete opposite for their CPUs tho

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:34 PM

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you've never really heard of DLSS, but you'll pay for Tensor cores regardless?

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:34 PM

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AMD is whooping Intel's ass rn

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from what I see its an AI that helps keep a stable framerate

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what's so wrong with that?

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or is there something I'm missing

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:36 PM

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sure

crystal spruce Dec 30, 2019, 11:36 PM

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what

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:36 PM

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you are missing that nobody uses it

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and that it doens't work very well

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:36 PM

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I mean nobody really uses DSR ether but thats included on alot of cards

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:36 PM

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that isn't true

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lots of people use DSR

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:37 PM

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also you can still just use TAA

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I use it but nobody around me really does

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:38 PM

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https://youtu.be/SvpyFBC3EH8

YouTube

Boot Sequence

Nvidia Explains Why DLSS Sucks!

Then we have Nvidia. Their DLSS technology went under the microscope of many outlets and most didn’t like what they found. While performance was definitely improved in metro exodus, when we add DLSS to ray tracing the image actually looked a lot softer and blurier. It seems...

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loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:38 PM

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but you can still just use TAA instead

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:38 PM

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okay

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but then you are paying for tensor (ai) cores and not getting any benefit

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its not like Nvidia is putting free stuff on the card that you don't pay for

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:39 PM

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but you are still getting Real Time Ray Tracing and more power than the GTX 1080 TI

brazen forge Dec 30, 2019, 11:39 PM

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this really cool, but #bnnuy-and-the-jits

shadow seal Dec 30, 2019, 11:39 PM

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I would still wait till the next round of RTX cards come out becauseexisting models should drop in price

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:40 PM

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but you are still getting Real Time Ray Tracing and more power than the GTX 1080 TI RTX is used in like 3 games, DLSS in almost none and its pretty much awful for 144 hertz gaming

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:40 PM

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they already sort of have

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"more power than the GTX 1080 TI"

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If you base your GPU logic off of features why don't we all just go back to using Voodoo 3 Cards

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you gotta remember you still got the power it offers over the GTX 1080 TI

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:41 PM

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dude, buy what you want
i'm not interested in buying a GPU with extra stuff tacked onto it that almost nobody actually uses

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:42 PM

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tbh I just want a new rig

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:42 PM

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yeah, i know that feeling

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:42 PM

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Its showing age and I can't even take advantage of things anymore because its dated

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:43 PM

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if you are going to buy at a 2000 series card, when you already own a 1000 series card, then you'll likely also buy a 2100 series card at some point

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i would save the money, skip the 2000 series and buy the best of the 2100 series

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:44 PM

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I tend to stay one card behind so I don't spend a fortune

frosty drift Dec 30, 2019, 11:44 PM

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wait what are you on atm?

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:44 PM

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saving up is not easy here

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Computer talk

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:44 PM

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no

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he meant what gpu lol

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:44 PM

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anyway #bnnuy-and-the-jits

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:45 PM

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I don't expect any game developers to use RTX for anything other than marketing

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when they are releasing games for next gen consoles using AMD ray tracing tech, that will be a different story

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those next gen GPU cards, will be optimized for the kind of rendering that studios will be programming for consoles by default

shadow seal Dec 30, 2019, 11:46 PM

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I dont think that RTX will be powerful enough on consoles. It will be a gimmick that wont catch on until the tech is much more optimised

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:46 PM

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I don't mean to be that guy but #bnnuy-and-the-jits plz

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:47 PM

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It will be a gimmick that wont catch on until the tech is much more optimised both console manufacturers have already stated they have RT hardware in their next gen GPUs

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AMD is giving the developers the options of using shader cores for RT or for more traditional shader functions

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If I had to guess, RT functions will be used for cheaper stuff like shadows

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https://youtu.be/9_XDlIxAkFs

YouTube

Linus Tech Tips

Was RTX a big scam? – Performance & image quality analysis

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We didn’t care much for RTX when it launched… And now that RTX is ava...

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The video points out that probably the most beneficial use of RTX is shadows, which is also the cheapest to do for shaders

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:55 PM

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its called PROFORMANCE

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It has better PROFORMANCE than the GTX 1080 TI

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also you should probably move this to #bnnuy-and-the-jits

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This talk about Amid Evil the Game sure is crazy

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:56 PM

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I wonder what Amid Evil has used RT For

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I'm guessing just reflections

manic dragon Dec 30, 2019, 11:56 PM

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leonthink

weary solar Dec 30, 2019, 11:57 PM

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Leon probably posted it somewhere but i haven't read it yet

manic dragon Dec 30, 2019, 11:57 PM

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leonthink

loud shoal Dec 30, 2019, 11:58 PM

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tbh I wonder how the Realistic Lighting is gonna look in the 90s style shooter.

weary solar Dec 31, 2019, 12:01 AM

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@loud shoal do you mean global illumination?

loud shoal Dec 31, 2019, 12:01 AM

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Im just saying

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Amid Evil has a blocky visual design to make it seem more retro

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so I wonder how inserting such lighting will treat this

weary solar Dec 31, 2019, 12:02 AM

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well

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I think its just reflections being effected

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not really lighting

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or at least, that seems to be the impression that Dave Oshrey gave to journalists

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https://www.overclock3d.net/news/software/retro_shooter_amid_evil_updated_with_nvidia_rtx_support/1

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It showcases how much raytracing can impact the reflections within AMID EVIL,

lethal elk Dec 31, 2019, 12:05 AM

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It just reflections currently

📎 image0.png

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They may add other features but idk

weary solar Dec 31, 2019, 12:05 AM

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thx jedd

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as for 90s style shooters rendered with Global Illumination....... the thing is retro shooters thrive on fast frame rates

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Metro didn't look bad with GI off, it just looked slightly better with it on

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GI is the future, for sure, but that something probably for the generation of consoles following next gen consoles, as UltimateCheess alluded too

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GI is too expensive for what it adds, Global Reflections are nice I guess but kind of unnecessary. Ray Traced shadows I think is where the minimal performance cost is justified by the graphical fidelity it provides.

loud shoal Dec 31, 2019, 12:12 AM

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considering its a beta and he said "currently". It may change

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If its just reflections and they run fine I feel that they would have updated the main game already ngl

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but who knows ¯_(ツ)_/¯

weary solar Dec 31, 2019, 12:14 AM

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"who knows" good question

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I would just like to see a Thief game with RT shadows

fringe flint Dec 31, 2019, 2:52 AM

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has anyone been able to get 100% kills in the beta level?

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i've been through it twice

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only 92/95

woeful pagoda Dec 31, 2019, 3:29 AM

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how can i play the new level without the rtx?

night ginkgo Dec 31, 2019, 3:30 AM

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use the beta code

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it might not work if you don't have a dx12 capable card or win10

woeful pagoda Dec 31, 2019, 3:32 AM

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yea i put the code and my card is compatible (gtx1080)

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but in the steam blog says that you can play the level without that rtx thing

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my game is running at 30fps and i want to play the level

night ginkgo Dec 31, 2019, 3:33 AM

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untick 'reflections' in the RTX options

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in the options menu

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ortherwise you can try find the amidevil.exe in your steamapps folder and then add the command line param -DX11

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will disable all RT based features

woeful pagoda Dec 31, 2019, 3:42 AM

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oh, thx

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i cand find any RTX option in amid evil

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cant*

night ginkgo Dec 31, 2019, 3:44 AM

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📎 unknown.png

craggy cypress Dec 31, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Was there a new episode added?

night ginkgo Dec 31, 2019, 3:45 AM

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oh wait are you on a GTX card?

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currently the options only work if it detects RTX cards

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hence it being a beta

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I'll have to add the option

craggy cypress Dec 31, 2019, 3:45 AM

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I saw water monsters ROXY

night ginkgo Dec 31, 2019, 3:45 AM

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there's a demo level for RTX on the beta branch

craggy cypress Dec 31, 2019, 3:45 AM

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Ah

night ginkgo Dec 31, 2019, 3:49 AM

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@woeful pagoda try that -DX11 command it should speed the game up back to normal

woeful pagoda Dec 31, 2019, 3:53 AM

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the game crash when i put that comand

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night ginkgo Dec 31, 2019, 3:55 AM

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ah well yeah

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it is beta

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wait for an update and I'll add the options in

woeful pagoda Dec 31, 2019, 3:55 AM

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ok

proper oxide Dec 31, 2019, 9:32 AM

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Leon I’m gonna shit on your carpet and then dome myself in your bed, you cool with that?

manic dragon Dec 31, 2019, 9:50 AM

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ive tried rtx level yesterday

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thats some really nice reflection maps on the ground

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and on the water

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very nice

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👌

fringe flint Dec 31, 2019, 1:56 PM

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i don't have an RTX card, I don't see any RTX features in game or in the options menu

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but seriously tho, has any achieved 100% kills in that level?

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<- GTX980

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beta seems to run fine tho

queen leaf Dec 31, 2019, 2:03 PM

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You don't need RTX to play the new level

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The new renderer applies to every level

fringe flint Dec 31, 2019, 2:04 PM

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the beta only has 1 level

queen leaf Dec 31, 2019, 2:05 PM

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Yea seemed like you were confused on how it was gonna work mb

thorny heron Dec 31, 2019, 2:07 PM

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insanity

signal quartz Dec 31, 2019, 3:01 PM

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Happy New Year in Japan.

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🙂

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Oh wrong channel...

signal quartz Dec 31, 2019, 3:19 PM

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It's new year, Leon!

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Work harder for the glory of NB family!

hollow sage Dec 31, 2019, 4:14 PM

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hmm, im getting quite a lot of noise and flickering in the reflections when i try the RTX beta :/

hollow sage Dec 31, 2019, 4:42 PM

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basically unplayable 😦

rustic barn Dec 31, 2019, 4:48 PM

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@hollow sage what's your setup

hollow sage Dec 31, 2019, 4:49 PM

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rtx 2070 with i5 9400 and 16 Gb RAM

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its the first time i actually play something with RTX so maybe i have something set-up wrong?

rustic barn Dec 31, 2019, 4:51 PM

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idk can't help

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got a 1070ti i5 8600 16 gb ram. everything was ok but the framerate was low

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no noise and nothing like that

woeful saffron Dec 31, 2019, 4:53 PM

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My game goes to a crash screen just after load up of the game title card, I get a UE4 crash report

hollow sage Dec 31, 2019, 4:55 PM

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changing the RTX screen percent from 50 to 100 only lowers fps from 90 to 45 and seems to slighly reduce the flicker. changing it from 50 to 25 increases fps to 105 and increases flicker noticably

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i dont have a video record set up right now, but this gif shows the flicker and change in the reflections somewhat https://media.giphy.com/media/fYqoGikxzuWojndmVz/giphy.gif

Giphy

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you can see it clearly on the floor reflections

hollow sage Dec 31, 2019, 5:16 PM

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the three screenshots were taken as fast as possible, so that is constant flicker

fierce nymph Dec 31, 2019, 7:04 PM

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A 1070 is a GTX card, not an RTX. So yeh, obviously it wouldn't work. 2000 RTX series are an alpha/beta testing branch for the 3000 series. It drops the frames no matter what card you have

hollow sage Dec 31, 2019, 7:04 PM

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thats not the issu tho

uneven summit Dec 31, 2019, 10:06 PM

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where can I download the demo?

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I tried google but it only gives me articles with photos...

tropic pine Jan 1, 2020, 12:26 AM

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I have a 2070 and I did the RTX code thing but it still isn't showing up, any help?

night ginkgo Jan 1, 2020, 12:35 AM

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does it look like this in the steam library

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crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 2:39 AM

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I know AE is retro and the gameplay is basic enough.

rustic barn Jan 1, 2020, 2:40 AM

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but damn i want to play fortnite right now

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 2:40 AM

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But do you guys have any recommendations of what I should play in preparation before this?

weary solar Jan 1, 2020, 2:42 AM

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@crystal spruce as what? AE's main source of influence?

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 2:43 AM

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@weary solar as in gameplay. The main source of influence comes from a lot of games either way.

weary solar Jan 1, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Probably the closest thing would probably be Unreal 1 on either its Hard or Unreal setting.

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 2:44 AM

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Ironic.

weary solar Jan 1, 2020, 2:45 AM

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Why is that.k

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 2:47 AM

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Eh never mind.

weary solar Jan 1, 2020, 2:48 AM

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I would think just buy Amid Evil now and if you don't like it after an 1.5 hours get a refund

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 2:51 AM

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In preparation for this? Heretic or HeXen, but more Heretic tho. Even tho i like HeXen a lot more

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 2:54 AM

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I was just thinking of that! Thanks. I'd also like to add that Leon told me about the game's biggest inspiration being Doom instead of Heretic, which is unusual since that game is more like AE in both style and gameplay.

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@GLUE#7794

weary solar Jan 1, 2020, 2:59 AM

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Unreal 1 reminds me the most of AE just because both games are more methodical than frantic.

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Relatively slow moving projectiles.

night ginkgo Jan 1, 2020, 2:59 AM

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you don't really need to play anything beforehand, AE is it's own game leon

weary solar Jan 1, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Yeah, I don't think playing anything else before hand is really going to matter much.

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:00 AM

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Sure thing, Leon.

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Well, I mean to like, get in the mood 🤷‍♂️

rustic barn Jan 1, 2020, 3:01 AM

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get in the mood?
you can always play fortnite

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:01 AM

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AE has its own mood depending on the chapter, and almost every one of them are great with great music to boot

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Nice!

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AE reminds me of Quake when it comes to the graphics.

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And style.

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:02 AM

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Even each chapter has its own HUD design

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Wow, that's pretty fucking impressive.

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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I mean, it's the same HUD, just different texture for it

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:03 AM

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Never seen different Huds for different chapters before in a game.

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:04 AM

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Just get AE if you are on the verge of buying it. I promise you, you won't be regret it

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:04 AM

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That Axe from the screenshots I've seen is literally the most Quake thing I've seen in recent games.

queen leaf Jan 1, 2020, 3:05 AM

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It's way beefier than Quake's Axe

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Super fun to swing

weary solar Jan 1, 2020, 3:05 AM

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Some of the castle levels seem sort of Quake inspired, except the color pallet isn't all brown.

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:05 AM

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I saw most, if not all of the weapons being screen-centered. The axe stands out a lot for being to the left.

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:05 AM

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why do you need to prep for a game? thats just weird

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:06 AM

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I played Doom before installing Dusk.

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Lol

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:06 AM

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thinksplode

weary solar Jan 1, 2020, 3:06 AM

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I assumed he just wanted to buy something cheaper.

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:06 AM

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Not really.

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:06 AM

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thats a good point lol

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:06 AM

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I have 20 bucks in my steam wallet.

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More than enough for ae

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:07 AM

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besides didnt you play the game a few days ago

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cause you were all like "why is this hexen 3" or whatever

night ginkgo Jan 1, 2020, 3:07 AM

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buy the bundle it will probably be cheaper

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:07 AM

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I'm just judging it by the trailers and screenshots lmao.

night ginkgo Jan 1, 2020, 3:07 AM

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https://store.steampowered.com/bundle/11357/DUSK__AMID_EVIL_Bundle/

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probably cheaper here if you own dusk

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:09 AM

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I've posted a tip for others about the bundle thing before.

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:09 AM

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in all seriousness ae is prolly the best nb game released

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:09 AM

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I know the trick myself

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:09 AM

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dusk is cool but ae feels like an actual thing

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:09 AM

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It's worth it, even the ratings are sky high. At one point Dusk held 91 at metacritic. Wish it didn't drop down to 89, but 89 is still pretty impressive. On the other hand AE holds 85, so if that ain't worth getting i don't know what is

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:09 AM

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I could just call ae a color or rtx demo.

night ginkgo Jan 1, 2020, 3:10 AM

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/367135220241137667/419103779871260672/unknown.png

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you'd be right

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since I have a PHD in colour theory

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Ae is literally a color demo with heretic gameplay.

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Pfff

night ginkgo Jan 1, 2020, 3:11 AM

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I would say heretic has more colour

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:11 AM

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Ha

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:11 AM

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AE is Unreal 4 done right

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:11 AM

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The lighting is the most colorful I've seen in a game.

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:11 AM

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ae is very much not heretic

manic dragon Jan 1, 2020, 3:11 AM

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But does Leon have PHD in GamePad Games

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:11 AM

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the level design maybe

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:12 AM

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The gameplay too.

manic dragon Jan 1, 2020, 3:12 AM

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i thought so.

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Weapon inspiration mostly

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:12 AM

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ohwait shit

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i get hexen and heretic mixed up

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:12 AM

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The weapons.

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:12 AM

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HEXEN level design
heretic weapons
unreal gameplay

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:12 AM

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Hexen level designs?

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I'm not buying ae anymore.

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Fuck it

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:13 AM

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eh more hexen architecture

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it isnt a switch hunt

lethal elk Jan 1, 2020, 3:13 AM

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heretic weapons
But in ae all the weps feel unique and fun to use

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Hexen levels makes me feel sleepy.

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:13 AM

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Just saying they are a bit inspired by it. And yes, they are fun to use and unique

manic dragon Jan 1, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Jab its called switch ""puzzle""

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:14 AM

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And beat most weapons down

manic dragon Jan 1, 2020, 3:14 AM

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y u dont like poozles

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:14 AM

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Hexen is a puzzle game with violence. Enough said.

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:14 AM

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There is nothing better than using the powered up mace

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:14 AM

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nah

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its defo an adventure game

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:14 AM

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"Adventure"

night ginkgo Jan 1, 2020, 3:14 AM

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there's barely any puzzles

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:15 AM

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mhm

night ginkgo Jan 1, 2020, 3:15 AM

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hexens switch hunts were braindead design

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annoying as hell

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:15 AM

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its mostly going to cool realms, finding switchs and getting cool weapons

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theres some mods that decrease the tedium too

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:16 AM

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Those switch hunts I've done still haunts me.

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:16 AM

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oh please

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:16 AM

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Hexen is worse than heretic for that reason

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:16 AM

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There are two keys, that's kinda it

winged ibex Jan 1, 2020, 3:16 AM

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We posting our PHDs in colour theory?

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Please do so. Color interests me.

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:17 AM

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I liked HeXen for the RPG elements, but the levels mang

winged ibex Jan 1, 2020, 3:17 AM

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📎 Colour_theory.png

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:17 AM

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Colorful!

night ginkgo Jan 1, 2020, 3:17 AM

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disgusting vertical spectrum begone

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horizontal is for true theorists

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:18 AM

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lmao

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:18 AM

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Every PHDs in color theory is colorful.

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:18 AM

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true theorists

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whats going on my true game theorists

winged ibex Jan 1, 2020, 3:18 AM

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I got this PHD a long time ago, now I believe in the colour wheel.

lethal elk Jan 1, 2020, 3:18 AM

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colour
u failed

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:18 AM

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i beleive in the color cube

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or as leon calls it

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the r cube

night ginkgo Jan 1, 2020, 3:18 AM

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stop

winged ibex Jan 1, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Colour cubes are also understandable but colour wheels.

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:19 AM

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But it is Colour

winged ibex Jan 1, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Mwah.

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Speaking of color, I like purple.

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What's your favorite color?

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:19 AM

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I like Pink, Purple and Cyan

lethal elk Jan 1, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Blue dancetiem

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:19 AM

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rumiaslow

winged ibex Jan 1, 2020, 3:19 AM

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Caput Mortuum

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Or just, basically any PR101 pigment.

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:20 AM

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That's not a color Jab.

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:20 AM

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rumiafast

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:20 AM

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That is a not a color.

night ginkgo Jan 1, 2020, 3:21 AM

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my favourite colour is blorange

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it's new

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humans can't perceive it tho

brazen forge Jan 1, 2020, 3:21 AM

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colour theory joke

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:21 AM

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So Get to the Orange Door. Very Cool Leon-san

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Is transparent a color?

manic dragon Jan 1, 2020, 3:21 AM

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Tf is colour

winged ibex Jan 1, 2020, 3:22 AM

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Fun fact, the dev of GTTOD can't see Orange.

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:22 AM

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I still haven't found the Orange Door lmao

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:23 AM

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funfact hatsu doesnt know how to read

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idk how hes lasted this long tbh

winged ibex Jan 1, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Yep.

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I do in fact not know how to read.

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Or write.

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Or do anything actually.

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:23 AM

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Your name is red on the GTTOD, so are you a supporter or what

night ginkgo Jan 1, 2020, 3:24 AM

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BlueMana GreenMana OrangeMana purplemana

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choose your mana

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:24 AM

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No thanks.

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:24 AM

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bluemana greenmana redmana purplemana

night ginkgo Jan 1, 2020, 3:25 AM

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imagine calling seafoam green, actual green

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obviously didn't go to school

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:26 AM

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theres a reason why im in the military leon

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:26 AM

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purplemana

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😍

manic dragon Jan 1, 2020, 3:27 AM

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bluemana

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hatsu should go to military

crystal spruce Jan 1, 2020, 3:27 AM

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Anything purple is to be greatly admired by me.

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:27 AM

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greenmana Can't pace without the mace

manic dragon Jan 1, 2020, 3:28 AM

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vuz he dosent know how 2 gun

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:28 AM

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i think my favorite part of ae is how you can clearly tell leon didnt learn anything from his rott2013 days cause every level is about as annoying as the room, which was leons only contribution to that game

winged ibex Jan 1, 2020, 3:29 AM

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If I went to the military I'd probably die like, immediately in boot camp.

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:29 AM

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its not that bad

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depending on your branch

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coast guard was fuckin rough

manic dragon Jan 1, 2020, 3:30 AM

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man i have to go the boot camp

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:30 AM

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I was just in time to NOT go to military because it wasn't needed anymore like it used to be

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So i just said nah

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I have DOOM experience, that counts

weary solar Jan 1, 2020, 3:32 AM

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being in the military is awesome except for the parts where you get shot at

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:32 AM

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nobody at my station likes doom

winged ibex Jan 1, 2020, 3:32 AM

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Do they at least like Receiver?

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:32 AM

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i doubt it

winged ibex Jan 1, 2020, 3:32 AM

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True, Receiver is an acquired taste.

frosty drift Jan 1, 2020, 3:32 AM

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most people don't

proper oxide Jan 1, 2020, 3:32 AM

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listen these dude, me included, have to deal with firearms daily

frosty drift Jan 1, 2020, 3:33 AM

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pretty much everyone at work has played doom

lethal elk Jan 1, 2020, 3:33 AM

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Gamer rise up

frosty drift Jan 1, 2020, 3:33 AM

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none of them care about it

fierce nymph Jan 1, 2020, 3:34 AM

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Man the last game i got from NB, and the only one missing was Maximum Action, and that shit is the most fun i had in a while. Apart from the horrible stuttering that is or isn't getting fixed (i have to tell bout it everywhere for senpais to notice me) So i am a battle hardened super soldier now

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We played UT99 at Highschool mostly

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And everybody loved it, which was strange, but that game is golden