Amid Evil is kind of game that you don't see very often. One that takes all the restrictions of realistic level design, enemies and weapons and throws them all out the window in favor of maximum creativity.
#amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown
weary solar
It used to be with level design, that you made a map that was fun to play and did all the detail work later. If it looked like a real place, bonus, if not, fuck it.
green ivy
first time I defeated the moon saint without soul mode in Evil, and it finally took more then 10 seconds. And its boss music is so freaking epic its incredible
night ginkgo
@bitter ibex we used substance
bitter ibex
ah you guys are fancy 🙂
potent terrace
Does anyone know the best way to kill the ||Flaming Stone Heads|| in ||Sacred Path||?
I’ve just been using all sorts of shit on them but it feels like I can kill em better and faster
crystal spruce
@potent terrace The Star of torment is pretty good against them.
frail hound
Amid Evil is GOTY. That is all.
fresh plume
i was gonna say "no (d)u(sk)" but then i remembered dusk came out in 2018 so technically it's 2018's goty
so continue
proper oxide
proper oxide
cinder mist
all the fuckin time
night ginkgo
👍 thanks
oblique folio
Killer work. Love the soundtrack, art style, weapons, and level layout.
night ginkgo
yeah I sat around and ate chips on the couch while andrew toiled in the AE mines
left marlin
anyway game bad I recommend it
oblique folio
I'd have never even heard of Amid Evil, unless for MandaloreGaming on YouTube. I heard of Dusk that way, but I grabbed the bundle with Dusk+Amid Evil, because I figured they'd both be badass.
I guessed right, shit is great.
night ginkgo
nice
left marlin
Andrew could take a fat dump on his keyboard and it would still be gold
in terms of music
crystal spruce
He could recreate crazy bus’ ost and it’d still be good.
oblique folio
The thing I'm loving about this game the most right now is the quality.
I'm only about 45 minutes in. I can just tell how much passion went into this.
It's fantastic.
weary solar
IMO there are too few Steam catagories
Like no awards for best level design..... really?
left marlin
well a lot of games don't have "levels" per se
weary solar
So?
left marlin
it would be unfair to have a category that couldn't apply to most games
well I say most
weary solar
.....
That is like saying it would be wrong to have a category for "best FPS game" just because not all games are FPS
left marlin
there isn't a category for that though
weary solar
The VR Game of the Year Award
not all games are VR games
The Labor of Love Award
Not all games get post-launch support
The Better With Friends Award
Not all games have MP
The Outstanding Story-Rich Game Award
Not all games have stories
........ so saying the reason to no have a "Best Level Design" award just because it doesn't apply to all games is at a minimum, inconsistent with most of the categories they already DO have.
anyway I love pretty much everything about Amid Evil's level design, except this:
o i c
i can't post screen shots here
lame
i'll have to link it
left marlin
Forges M1 :v)
weary solar
that is some pretty low shadow resolution
its not a problem 99% of the time
but the engine is completely capable of high resolution shadow maps
I'm guessing this is an artistic decision
like no texture filtering
but I generally prefer high-resolution shadow maps
proper oxide
its supposed to look retro with some fancy effects
weary solar
yeah i get that
and how to properly make a game look retro while still aesthetically appealing is something that nobody can agree on
proper oxide
everyone has their own preferences
i think ae is one of the most visually interesting games ever released
weary solar
still, my preference would have been for ultra-high shadows resolution
left marlin
nah they're just lazy and forgot to make shadows good 
weary solar
AE is one of the most visually interesting games in a long time, simply because it throws conventional "got to look like a real place" mapping mentality out the window.
Quake and Doom are also like this and they benefit greatly from it.
weary solar
I suppose the shadow level detail of the default game is none issue, since I assume RTX will mean enhanced shadow/light effects
weary solar
Random thought about difficulty modes:
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/506723039245893654/649986824546156545/unknown.png https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/506723039245893654/649986854090702848/unknown.png
with these two options active, which are major restrictions, its probably worth starting the game back at medium and working your way up
which is like 3 extra difficulties beyond extra hard
nocturne tapir
Honestly warrior + auto soul isn't that bad
I completed it on Evil, admittedly not trivially because i am merely mortal
Forges and void are right bastards though :v
The levels are designed with it in mind though, so you're never stuck with only the axe for long
regal fable
does any one else get these lag spikes in amid evil, i dont nkow why, my PC isn't that bad
but playing in borderless windowed rn, random lag spikes, so annoying
and it's worse than it was in the past when I played it a few months ago I think
tall temple
not a whole lot to go on there. what do you mean by lag spikes?
anything running in the background? chrome is pretty notorious for causing performance problems in many different games
oblique folio
What are your computer's specs? Have you tried validating the game cache or giving your computer a restart?
frosty drift
I'm kinda leaning towards a slow hard drive tbh
AE is a pretty potato game so if it's going to run badly it'll do so consistently
Move the game to an ssd if possible
regal fable
i5 6400 and gtx 1060 and yeah it's on a normal HDD but I don't get hitches like this in anything else, i guess i should try fullscreen over borderless first
frosty drift
Yeah give that a shot
oblique folio
Yeah, I was gonna suggest that it might've been your hard drive too. Hopefully that works for you.
frosty drift
Your specs are above and beyond what ae requires
So it's likely either a software or hard drive related issue
regal fable
yeah it should run well, so no idea, if it's stilld oing it it'll move it to my SSD it's not a huge game so, should work if this doesn't, thanks for the suggestion
frosty drift
👍
oblique folio
I just got the star of torment for the first time. I fucking love this thing.
crystal spruce
Star of torment is the best weapon
regal fable
oh moving it to ssd didn't do anything but setting a frame limit to like 120 seems to have fixed it :v was on unlimited before, damn
lapis arrow
manic dragon
lethal elk
dreamy prairie
The alpha
have
falling
damage.
nocturne tapir
Amid Evil more like
good
exotic ore
I want the amid evil artbook. Holy hell it's probably one of the best looking games I've seen in a while
The environments in particular
Also I hope there will be more AE content in the future v_v
manic dragon
amid evil artbook: 2 paged artbook
hot dust
crystal spruce
Leon can't art
manic dragon
lethal elk
more liek no one remembers Hexen 2
crystal spruce
Hey
I like Hexen 2
Except for that circle calendar puzzle in the Egypt level that one was cancerous
night ginkgo
Yes goddamn that puzzle I hate it too
The Egypt hub looked great and had cool enemies but the puzzles were horrible
proper oxide
what class did you guys choose
frosty drift
Reimu
proper oxide
i chose bunmy myself
crystal spruce
Hey gamers
I've got an issue where literally anytime i enter water i lose sound, anybody got a quick fix around?
proper oxide
Woah that’s weird
crystal spruce
well, i need to test it a bit more, but every time i entered water on the first level at least
proper oxide
You can either wait for a response here or leave a post on the steam forums and someone will get to you
So it’s only when you enter the water?
crystal spruce
It's uh
Whenever i enter water i lose the entire gamesound, regardless of whether or not i'm actually in or out of water, and i have to restart to get it back
to be more precise
proper oxide
That’s fuckin super strange
Paging @night ginkgo or @cinder mist to help this madlad
They might be a bit
crystal spruce
i'm on hardware with a little bit of age, i can take video and stuff if y'all need and provide specs tomorrow afternoon, got a late friendsgiving event
proper oxide
Different time zones and all
crystal spruce
Ok so, Did a little more testing on losing sound, i lose sound entirely upon entering water for the first time, and it doesn't come through in streams. Music will play when i press esc but no other audio
OK
It happened because i was using my Dualshock 4 as an audio passthrough, switching to a regular splitter completely eradicated the issue
@proper oxide @night ginkgo
night ginkgo
weird
night ginkgo
glad it works now
crystal spruce
❤️
pliant sluice
Is there a way to set the mouse sensitivity via console inside the game?
The separate x/y is fucking with me.
queen leaf
There's a option you can turn on to make the X and Y 1:1 in the same menu
Forgot what it is called but once on just adjust your sens to what's comfortable
night ginkgo
the 'aspect lock' button will offset it so it feels 1:1
slate sorrel
This game is so awesome
manic dragon
slate sorrel
The mace is the coolest weapon
Accidentally horrible pun that I caught after typing that lmao
It feels so nice to use
night ginkgo
thanks, was a lot of fun to make
slate sorrel
Leon I have a serious and important question
What flavor of Gfuel will make me the best at Amid Evil?
manic dragon
Monster Ultra
slate sorrel
Guess im not using green anymore. Green Apple gfuel tastes like cheeks
crystal spruce
While playing Amid Evil we recommend that you stay hydrated with Monster Ultra
slate sorrel
Hydrated LUL
manic dragon
🚱
slate sorrel
That will keep you a whole lot more than hydrated
night ginkgo
where's the ae boomer meme
slate sorrel
Lol
Dude all of your guys' games have overwhelmingly positive reviews
that's actually insane
Can the cosmos rocket launcher staff thing launch Earth?
night ginkgo
yep
slate sorrel
Lol nice
night ginkgo
you get an achievement for blowing up the earth
the chances are pretty high, you can switch back and forth between weapons to try make it show up
I think it's about a 1/500 chance
vocal ingot
I remember when earth was like
1 in 10
Those were the days, blowing up three earth's in a row
night ginkgo
ahh the good ol days
crystal spruce
What if I shot a sun at the sun in amid evil
If there even is background suns in ae
night ginkgo
Shoot at sun at the solar saint and he'll puke it back
crystal spruce
1 in 10000 chance of it being a big John head
crystal spruce
a net gain
wind trench
Anyone know AE’s max FOV?
manic dragon
140
wind trench
Cool thank you
wraith oxide
Great stuff :)
odd sleet
@night ginkgo gamer playing your game https://www.twitch.tv/jerma985
marble niche
I finally got around to finding the evil difficulty and man I already like it more than hard
are your projectiles faster as well because everything just feels that much better
snow basin
max pov makes weaapon clip through wall 😦
slate sorrel
Is Evil the hardest it gets?
Or is there another higher difficulty
arcane expanse on evil was not easy I will say that much holy balls dude lol
Also dude how can someone play at max FOV lol. Im on that mean 70 FOV
Only cause im used to it from OW though
night ginkgo
AE's fov is slightly wider than most games at default values because it uses H+ scaling
so the wider your screen is the wider your fov
90 at 16:9 is slightly wider than 4:3
most games use V- where the sides are locked but the top and bottom get cropped when doing FOV adjustments
slate sorrel
I just used https://www.mouse-sensitivity.com
It felt about right based on the conversion I got
140 FOV is insane dude LOL
night ginkgo
yeah 110 would be like 130/140 in a normal game
slate sorrel
are you supposed to quicksave or is it frowned upon
night ginkgo
I set up the most insane quicksave system so please use it
slate sorrel
Lol alright
In the Forge area
I died so many times
holy balls lol
I think that's easily the hardest area for me so far
slate sorrel
Just beat the game for the first time on Evil and Warrior mode and auto soul mode. FeelsGoodMan
lethal elk
slate sorrel
Solar Solstice was my favorite part of the game easily
The graphics on the first level are so nice
marble niche
Save scumming is like the only way I beat blood
There really is no contest for evil vs hard difficulty evil just feels so much better
meager forge
Tbf thats the only way to beat blood
slate sorrel
It's probably the movement speed of small enemies that feels better?
It felt similar besides that
marble niche
The speed just makes it feel more in your face and visceral
slate sorrel
Yeah it takes way more skill
marble niche
Hard was a bit sluggish in comparison
Plus with all the health sitting around I've gotten in the mindset of not needing to try to dodge everything
slate sorrel
I like the guys that flank you purposely in solar solstice
The gameplay feels really good
I probably used Whisper's edge the most out of anything
Most of the weapons have areas where they obviously shine which is great
There are some miss spelled words in the codex. I don't think its a big deal but it's the only kind of non intentional looking thing I found while playing
"...armed with explosve harpoons."
hardy mural
Amid anal match 3 game when?
crystal spruce
Amid dusk mod when
hardy mural
Amid dusk on GameCube when
crystal spruce
Amid dusk on tiger game watch when
weary solar
The speed just makes it feel more in your face and visceral
Amid Evil and Unreal 1 are both games that are much more enjoyable playing on a really hard difficulty, than playing on a easy or normal one.
I'm not sure exactly why, but that is the way they feel to me.
night ginkgo
Unreal 1 good
weary solar
I think if I had to narrow it down, in games where both you and the enemies shoot relatively slow moving projectiles a difficulty increase dramatically changes how much more attention you need to give and how much more awareness you need to practice.
soft bramble
Unreal 1 is awesome, loved it to bits. I got the Gold Edition with all expansions and such, they don't make games like they used to anymore :-/
slate sorrel
This game is still cool
weary solar
Unreal 1 is awesome, loved it to bits. I got the Gold Edition with all expansions and such, they don't make games like they used to anymore 😕
it probably has better AI than what we see in games today
weary solar
The mechanics of Unreal 1 were so good that they were polished into UT to become one of the best games ever made.
weary solar
Unreal 1 needs to be played on its hardest difficulty to be engaging for a lot of people.
night ginkgo
I usually just play unreal on medium
¯_(ツ)_/¯
I liek the adventure feeling the game has
plus the feeling of solitude
night ginkgo
lmao it's meeee
queen leaf
slate sorrel
Who would have thought
weary solar
I usually just play unreal on medium
Unreal isn't really so fast paced that split-second of being unfocused is gonna wreck the character, so having mega-consequences for failure is most engaging to a lot of people.
The best example of another game I think think of like this is Painkiller.
It was piss easy on medium, but on the hard difficulties where you don't regain health each checkpoint, all of sudden then dying from a thousand cuts becomes a possibility and it changes things.
manic dragon
But you lose access to good levels on trauma
weary solar
But you lose access to good levels on trauma
I don't remember completely
I thought you lose some levels but gain others
Regardless some games are just not anywhere near as engaging on medium difficulty as they are on Very Hard
pastel dew
difficulty switching up what content you get is wild
i mean, other than levels unlocked through higher diffs
only other gmae I can think of doing that is like, SRW
night ginkgo
Lots of games in the 90s used to do it
pastel dew
Really? Straight up not letting you play levels on hard?
night ginkgo
Oh I meant like changeing or adding extra enemies
pastel dew
yeah that's common ofc
I mean literally locking levels out to certain difficulties, including content exclusive to easymode
night ginkgo
That would be crazy lol
Because like it takes ages to make levels, locking them out is leaving out all that hard work that people would never see
proper oxide
AEs enemy count changes with difficulty, right?
manic dragon
ye
slate sorrel
AE is ez
The forge and the void though gave me an aneurysm though
The planets in AE are sick
steady bough
https://twitter.com/shenanigansen/status/1203488280744013831?s=20
AE making some lists round here
Twitter
proper oxide
Yeah I pinged Leon about that
gusty kite
cool
scrolls up and sees some reimu stuff
🤔
well i don't mind a collab, especially a bullet hell side scroller version of AE
gusty kite
ZUN is a man who does not mind licensing his brand to studios
frosty drift
ZUN's kinda exhausted with the series
he wants to pass on the torch and licensing the IP to indies is his way of doing so
the man's getting pretty old
tall temple
NB buys 2hu
Becomes weeb company
frosty drift
we could probably get the go ahead to use 2hu if we tried to go for it tbh
proper oxide
Sun is close to his 50s, yeah?
crystal spruce
Rip touhou man
proper oxide
I’ve said it on twitter and I’ll say it again
The fan games are getting better than the official games
plucky isle
even Nothing is better
kind sluice
is the new dlc post game?
I still got arcane expanse and the final episode to finish
kind sluice
yeah yeah, wheres it at in the game?
night ginkgo
back in time lol
kind sluice
duhhh
night ginkgo
like versions from 2017
kind sluice
I know i just wanna play them :0
night ginkgo
ty 😄
oh wait did you mean like 'how do you access the alphas'
there's info on the steam forum
you have download the dlc then launch the normal game
kind sluice
YES THANK YOU
night ginkgo
when he said 'post game' I thought it meant temporally
kind sluice
lol
proper oxide
When Leon thinks with his Zawussy rather than his brain, you’ll have to excuse him
night ginkgo
can you not
crystal spruce
cringe jab
fringe flint
Is the RTX version real?
random needle
One reason why Amid Evil's my GotY https://twitter.com/ChaosBahamut/status/1142935501172858886 (yeah, brushing off a semi-old tweet)
crystal spruce
No the rtx version is not real because amid evil is not real
Why would Amid Evil be real?
fringe flint
Oshry can be hard to take seriously.
Is it new levels or is it a graphics update?
And what kind of hardware will it require?
Like would a 2060 be good enough?
proper oxide
graphics update
and a card that supports rtx
(obviously)
i think there might be a new level too that really shows off all the fancy shit but im not sure on that
cinder mist
ye there's a new level too
pastel dew
is trhat the same NOOOOOOOOOO scream as when dusk dude gets flushed
snow basin
amid evil is just space dusk dude
crystal spruce
Amid Evil is just Space F.E.A.R tbh fellas.
cinder mist
amid evil's main inspirations were mario teaches typing and overlord 2
snow basin
epic
fringe flint
replaying your old nostalgic favorites can be disappointing sometimes. after years of playing modern games, returning to the old ones doesn't feel like the games you remember. they feel a little too clunky, maybe a little boring, the graphics are too dated... whatever it is, you've been spoiled by modern advancements. one of the many amazing things about Amid Evil, for me, is that it feels like I remember my old favorites feeling. I love it. I'm currently playing through the game again, which is something I never do.
and now i'm going to have to drop hundreds to upgrade my GTX 980 because of a retro game SMH
night ginkgo
click on the image to view it in 360
this is a shot from the new level
should be out soon hopefully
night ginkgo
is that a mfin jojo reference??!??!
winged ibex
Next Leon's going to go to Japan to do the Japanese game industry ritual of deleting source code.
proper oxide
no it was a touhou reference that was referencing a jojo reference which was a reference to an old 1970s movie action jack where jack tells his japanese friend "naisu naisu, jin-chan"
cinder mist
jabs fucking sick of everyone asking
fringe flint
guess i haven't been paying attention
winged ibex
Or something about Tonight We Riot.
crystal spruce
Again an AE multiplayer would be cool but we can’t have that because stanky legal reasons
night ginkgo
MP is because we don't have the time/resources/player base
modding is legal and technical reasons
crystal spruce
Ah
queen leaf
No indie FPS has the playerbase
winged ibex
^
night ginkgo
if epic would basically lock down cooked assets and let you build levels that would be sick for so many games
winged ibex
99% of multiplayer games are dead on arrival.
queen leaf
Cause people ain't patient and don't actually want to use pickup channels
night ginkgo
making a successful multiplayer game is probably one of the hardest things to do
winged ibex
Yeah,
night ginkgo
however they also have the biggest payoffs
winged ibex
But are also the hardest to maintain.
night ginkgo
like they make unfathomable amounts of money
winged ibex
Because another expected aspect of multiplayer dev is you have to maintain it.
crystal spruce
It’d be cool tho.
queen leaf
There gonna be new enemies as well?
pastel dew
making a successful multiplayer game is probably one of the hardest things to do
cries in Intruder
it ain't fair
knotty imp
what is that handful of green energy on the main character's arm in the box art?
queen leaf
Just some green mana magic I'd assume
crystal spruce
It's his green hand attack!
night ginkgo
It looks cool
manic dragon
you always see cool stuff on coverart but not in the game
crystal spruce
FALSE ADVERTISING
night ginkgo
Actually is balse badvertising
crystal spruce
🅱️advertising
proper oxide
SPONGEBOI ME BOB I PUT SOMETHING ON THE TITLE ART THATS NOT IN THE GAME
AND NOW IM GOING TO JAIL FOR FALSE ADVERTISING
ARG ARG ARG ARG ARG ARG ARG
crystal spruce
cringe jab
frosty drift
Cringe jab
crystal spruce
Gonna finish amid evil today 
long minnow
really great game
I think I even like it a bit better than Dusk
I recently beat both Dusk and Amid Evil, now I'm on to Iron Fury. You guys like/played that game?
*Ion Fury, lol
pastel dew
I played it. It's OK, but I feel it blows its load too early
The later levels are nowhere as fun or inventive as the early city stuff
long minnow
yeah, the city levels are awesome, so many secrets
the thing that really blows my mind is that it's all done on the build engine
it's like some kind of techno-magic
broken bluff
Also old schoolish shooter with some new things: https://www.gog.com/game/project_warlock
Pretty cool
And Brutal Doom is nice, in my opinion. I know a lot of people hate it for some reason. Don't know why...
snow basin
bc doom purists
broken bluff
Yeah, I guess :P
Don't really know what that means though. Like, nobody can mimic it/alter it/copy it's game mechanics?
Oh well, time for foofs
pastel dew
The issues with brutal doom are usually more because it adds a lot of modern needless mechanical clutter to a game whose strengths was solid mechanics
if it was just BLUHD EVERYWHERE and some effects there'd be less complaints (but still some, some purists hate even basic dynamic lighting in doom)
but it adds shit like reloading (which can be fine in some games, but it needs a mechanical point other than just "realism" and doom lacks it) and iron sights (half your screen becomes a fucking gun for some reason, and to justify its addition you need to make the crosshairs innacurate)
snow basin
there are gore mods made from the same person
pastel dew
yeah the gore mods are fine
or the music
it's the mechanical changes to brutal doom that generally annoy people
snow basin
i think brutal doom does add stuff that does give the game a fresh coat of paint though
even if the only thing i know is the ads on shotgun being able to slamfire really fast
pastel dew
I mean I'm fine with it existing, play whatever you want, and some of the changes aren't terrible
and a lot of Brutal Doom complaints are pretty petty
but a lot of said changes are pretty "why" at the same time
snow basin
ye
pastel dew
there's some complaining about tone too with some BD critics saying BD made everyone think Doom was only rip and tear and overpowered weapons but those people think no fun is allowed and they don't count
there is also the out of game drama but who cares
broken bluff
You can tweak all of those things though
You couldn't in the past however. Brutal Doom has been in development for a long time
But yeah, it's still a challenging game and I don't think it's really doom anymore. Which is fine to me personally xD
I don't mind people being creative. Lots of games have a lot of mechanical blurp in them that are still creative and created with care. It's not like I need to wait 16 seconds to skin an animal...
And yes, I guess it doesn't matter a whole lot. You enjoy it or you don't basically :P. I like it
And playing the huge amount of custom campaigns is nice
slate sorrel
what u tink of it
crystal spruce
Solar Solstice shield bois fucking suck
crystal spruce
nah just annoying that they reflected shit
slate sorrel
The axe smokes them really hard and instantly
crystal spruce
You can kill them with splash damage with the celestial claw.
Usually in an easy one hit.
slate sorrel
The spikey ball things in the forge were freaking annoying though
lethal elk
The shield guys can reflect the shots tho
slate sorrel
how did you guys deal with the spikey ball things
the axe is not the way to go on those thats all I know
crystal spruce
The green mana weapons bounce them back a bit on hit.
slate sorrel
The water staff too
I thought the Forgemaster was the best boss in the game. Pretty cool encounter
How did you deal with the final boss? I just spammed black holes on him. I dont know if there was a better way. I felt like I cheesed him on accident when it was over
crystal spruce
I just use the star of torment on everything
lethal elk
I use the Voltride on the spike balls
tardy cove
The powered water staff shreds the final boss
Build the soul meter with the aeturnum, then use the water staff
Easy peasy
And you don't even have to come close to the red and green torches, which trigger his most dangerous attacks
snow basin
how bad are the eye lasers on evil difficulty?
is it faster?
bc i didnt have too bad of a time with it on hard i just moved around the laser like a touhou
tardy cove
They're faster and they hurt A LOT
And the solar system throw that he does with the red torch can one hit you in a direct hit if you're not at 200 hp
So yeah
snow basin
oh god
frail bobcat
What are the cheat codes in this game? I accidentally used one and got the achievement while going up an elevator.
"torchlight" or something I think
night ginkgo
look in the codex in the main menu
fringe flint
How do you accidentally use a cheat code?
night ginkgo
maybe using AESSEE if you have E bound to something
fringe flint
gee I wonder who made this level https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1933893468
night ginkgo
whomst
fringe flint
I like how the battle toads are weaker when they are flying
night ginkgo
battle toads lol
slate sorrel
Thinking about playing this game all the way through again. Really cool game. I miss it
night ginkgo
I mean I like all the levels so it's bascially an impossible choice
slate sorrel
I understand. That makes sense
night ginkgo
I think a lot of people quite liked the tower of light
queen leaf
I really like Episodes 5 (The Forges) and 6 (The Arcane Expense)
Those easily have my favourite themes and tones
Plus encounters
And the finale is to what I expect for an end game
A final effort that turns the player on their head, never truly getting to grips with it comfort zone wise
manic dragon
The Sacred Path and The Forges are The best
crystal spruce
The forges has a good theme
night ginkgo
How about the 🅱️ orges
crystal spruce
The Ogers
manic dragon
The Layers
night ginkgo
🅱️arcane 🅱️expanse
crystal spruce
orgy is best
left marlin
that final part of the void right before you fight evil is just nuts
so it's my fav
e
fringe flint
currently playing though on hard. looking forward to that
left marlin
do it on eeeeeviiiil
slate sorrel
Filthy casuals man smh my head
crystal spruce
The forges traps are easy if you’re patient.
weary solar
Thinking about playing this game all the way through again. Really cool game. I miss it
Do it on the hardest difficulty.
fringe flint
is it true that all weapons can be found in every level?
cinder mist
the aeternum doesn't show up till ep 2
fringe flint
man that was rough. i save scummed that whole ep
night ginkgo
nothing wrong with that
fringe flint
eh, don't remember exactly. right before having to avoid giant rollers I think
crystal spruce
Always use the aeturnum for the orby fuckers.
fringe flint
i often overkill one with the trident, the chain takes care of most of them
so many brutal enemies in that ep though
the sparky guys god damn
night ginkgo
'sparky guys' originally was gonna be a boss in another game we had planned
prime vector
finally purchased and playing amid evil
thanks for that insightful easter egg mr @dire briar
but i have sadly already purchased dusk on steam for $20 😢
nocturne tapir
of the pre-final episodes i'd have to say either forges or arcane expanse, i'm a sucker for both visual themes
overall though, void is my favourite, it's just so bonkers
it's like "ok what'd it be like if my LSD was on LSD and i ate that LSD"
"and then i shared it with M.C. Escher and ate him while he was double high"
i'm a complete sucker for such utterly surreal level design
clearly the episode needs purple knights though no wait their attack works best in closed areas
lethal elk
tripled dipped on amid evil and got it on gog
crystal spruce
Considering doing that as well
fringe flint
there definitely seems to be bugs with achievements in Steam
i used the soul mode axe underwater, i'm positive
quick aurora
night ginkgo
lel
signal quartz
Next update when.
knotty imp
to show you the awesome power of the world's most advanced console
we are proud to announce AMID EVIL for Xbox Se X
manic dragon
Xbox Se X*
crystal spruce
A meme Devil
magic panther
fringe flint
just assume any game that isn't currently released won't come out until at least Q2 2020
slate sorrel
The perspective of the TV in that picture is weird to my eyes
Looks close and far at the same time. Or maybe im cracked out who knows
fringe flint
jesus, is it even possible to destroy the dragons at the end of ep8?
without soul mode ready its at least unreasonable, that's for sure
night ginkgo
episode.... 8?
slate sorrel
Are you talking about the ones in the void?
night ginkgo
use the azure orb if you're having a hard time
slate sorrel
Lol
lethal elk
just use the bfg fam
slate sorrel
Just aim near the head with anything and you can easily kill them
Like there is a range on their body that is basically holding still in a way
@night ginkgo Does the twin terror's body follow the exact path as the head?
slate sorrel
yeah just aim for the head 4head
night ginkgo
azure orb is homing so it's the easiest for me
also trident is hitscan so very easy to hit them with it
slate sorrel
Maybe people lead shots because they dont notice the body is following the head perfectly and think they are wriggling around
Yeah the trident is good for that
left marlin
Star of torment is an easy kill
Celestial Claw too, because it hits multiple segments (but only if you can aim the darned thing)
night ginkgo
oh
keep moving
you can use the the 3 cone shape things as cover or just dive off the edge a few times since you get teleported
finite shuttle
poor lad doesnt remember developing it 😦 it sad what developers go through these days
queen leaf
The colours drove him mad
What do you think Colour Out of Space (featuring Nicolas Cage) is based off?
weary solar
seems like the System Shock 1 remake is copying Amid Evils unfiltered texture look
proper oxide
i wouldnt say copying
winged ibex
I mean, it had that visual style in the original demo.
Then when they switched to UE4 they had a build of it that didn't have the look and now they're back with it.
weary solar
fair enough
i like it is all i am saying
im actually impressed with it overall, even though obviously as an Alpha, its got holy-shit levels of technical issues
as a proof of concept though, its spectacular compared to the original game
slate sorrel
Episode 8 was the only good one tbf. The rest of the game was cheeks 
proper oxide
Dame
slate sorrel
im going to do an axe only run of the game on Evil
Literally nothing could possibly go wrong
night ginkgo
I call that the "chad run"
have to make an exemption to shoot the red switches where needed
night ginkgo
crystal spruce
Ameme Devil
wow how come I can't do flips in amid evil
fix ur game @@@leelona
oh fug
night ginkgo
Because
nocturne tapir
champion so calm he can't even flip his lid
except when soul power
but then he spends all his flipping on the axe
plucky isle
ameed
cyan cove
amd'eg'av'ieln
slate sorrel
A very thought provoking and meaningful message
night ginkgo
indeed
night ginkgo
it's a steam activation code to mental illness
night ginkgo
crystal spruce
Isn’t that steam activation code just keyboard slamming.
cyan cove
yes it is but it'd be funny if it actually was a code for bad rats 1 and 2
night ginkgo
imagine if it was a code for rats for breakfast
plucky isle
@night ginkgo Same shit tbh, Amid Evil = mental illness
cyan cove
Fuck
I was gonna send Leon actual codes for bad rats and bad rats show through email but steam won't let me do it that way
my shitty 3 dollar joke is ruined
plucky isle
the fuck is bad rats
cyan cove
a very visually unappealing puzzle game on steam for like 1 and 2 dollars respectively
cyan cove
you give bad rats to someone on steam as a throw away joke because no ones ever actually gonna play em
at least that's what me and other friends have done in the past
plucky isle
🥴
cyan cove
all the reviews for bad rats are just shitposts too
plucky isle
haha
jolly yarrow
iirc bad rats doesn't just look bad, it plays badly too
smoky cypress
Amid evil 2 revenge of the LSD when?
marsh flax
ameth evil
crystal spruce
Leons Color Theory Adventures 2
left marlin
Amid Evil: Fun with colours!
queen leaf
Amid Evil colouring book but it's already coloured in
old kelp
lol
i'd buy an amid evil colouring book tho
for real thats like super fucking awesome
crystal spruce
I like how Amid Evils maps are the opposite of Quakes maps.
night ginkgo
how so?
crystal spruce
Quakes maps are gothic and gloomy meanwhile aes maps are colorful and bright, most of the time.
night ginkgo
ah
crystal spruce
Amid Evil is just David Bowie Quake.
cyan cove
that's not a bad thing to be
crystal spruce
Exactly
cyan cove
crystal spruce
Loot boxes, surprise mechanics
queen leaf
proper oxide
imagine ur walking around in leons house and you hear a door open and then this plays
what do
queen leaf
Then I'll know it's Leon's house.
Wait... I'm already in Leon's house? I'll proceed to borrow a few mana crystals and yeet out the window
night ginkgo
@proper oxide scarily accurate
dire briar
dreamy prairie
I wanna tell to my graphics card, but it's a radeon...
oh well.
now i have a reason for a RTX
fresh plume
...it just won't be wet
dreamy prairie
but i wanna play the map...wet
night ginkgo
i'm talkin bout the new level
that one still looks wet you just don't get the spicy full reflections without RTX
weary solar
I'm waiting to see what AMD does with Ray Tracing, they are the GPU being put into next gen consoles so they are going to be the Default from the get-go.
night ginkgo
they actually fire lasers out the cpu into your brain for that realtime ray tracing
gusty kite
Eh impressive
slate sorrel
how is the new game doing?
night ginkgo
kinda slow really
we're still prototyping stuff
I've been doing AE stuff recently
probably will pick up next year
slate sorrel
I think a guided rocket would be fun
are you guys going to have the power up "super" system where your weapon is stronger for a certain amount of time again?
I thought that was fun
slate sorrel
Oh okay that's cool. im sure it will be great
crystal spruce
The first first person strand game
old kelp
Request for the devs: can you guys pls release the AE textures when the dusk sdk comes out
knotty imp
AMID DUSK
manic dragon
leeeon maek ameeed ebil toooooo
night ginkgo
the next thing we'd make for ae would probably be the black labyrinth prequel DLC
manic dragon
crystal spruce
bruh if you make a black labyrinth DLC you better make me use only the axe
manic dragon
you get the axe but in comic book sold separately
crystal spruce
But what am I gonna use before the axe
night ginkgo
queen leaf
Chad
crystal spruce
oof
cinder mist
queen leaf
yes
crystal spruce
lmao
night ginkgo
hahahahaha simon that is amazing
rustic barn
is that an actual sprite you're gonna use @night ginkgo
manic dragon
leons gonna model high quality 3d arms, with sweaty muscle, veins and all that stuff
only to be rendered as low res sprite in real time
queen leaf
That sounds real cool if done right
Dead cells does that sorta but with low poly (cell-shaded?) models downsampled to look like sprites
winged ibex
Models are prerendered with normal maps in Dead Cells and then there's a cel shader applied.
Pretty much what AE did but with a cel shader, also the colour data was baked into the sprites as well unlike AE.
left marlin
models crushed into pixels
crystal spruce
Okay so the champion is gonna ride a car in the prequel. Got it.
fresh bloom
is there an alternate font option for this game
me eyes hurting
hexed obsidian
Isn't there tho? "In other news: we've just released an update that addresses some remaining bugs and also FINALLY allows you to change the in-game font! (you're welcome)"
fresh bloom
also the sensitivity is weird
horizontal is way faster than vertical even tho they're both at 33 in options
proper oxide
they arent the same
theres an option for it
look for a check box
itll scale them the same
fresh bloom
"lock to aspect"?
proper oxide
yeye
fresh bloom
unchecked it and it didn't change anythin
proper oxide
ye its not the most obvious lol
when they first added it i was like "why tf this aint working"
solid ridge
amid evil is the number 2 of best games of the year from eurogamer's john linneman
well done folks
proper oxide
whos number 1
solid ridge
ace combat 7
proper oxide
ill allow it
crystal spruce
Why am I having pipe dreams of Amid Evil being demade in Unreal Engine 1?
hexed obsidian
https://youtu.be/q-vlq25ITaU Here's the link btw
knotty imp
Wheres the Amid evil deep dive video
winged ibex
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heZCWmGOs7w Footage of Leon's next game.
fresh plume
"JC develops schizophrenia and fucking Dies"
winged ibex
Rahn videos are works of art.
crystal spruce
Need that RTX goodness.
proper oxide
||
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cinder mist
not yet
crystal spruce
Beat Dusk a long time ago, I finally picked up Amid Evil and I'm trying to decide if I should wait for RTX patch.
night ginkgo
I'd play now lol
night ginkgo
queen leaf
Old man Leon
night ginkgo
hey kids I just sharted
pliant snow
Aged
marsh star
about that convo with dead cells doom used clay firgurines for the monster sprites + some visual tweaks
and the arms/firearms were done the same but with like toy guns and such
they used on devs arms for all the weapons
queen leaf
Huh nice
gusty kite
thnx leon, labyrinth DLC would do good for lore
crystal spruce
LORE
nocturne tapir
S H I L L P A R T Y
night ginkgo
Loring? More like boring
crystal spruce
I already gave you my money now give me RTX! 😄
proud cliff
Hey guys. Been having a weird issue with AMID EVIL since July. When I try to launch the game, it crashes after the New Blood splash screen. I've tried verifying files, uninstalling and reinstalling onto different drives, etc and I can't seem to make it passed the splash screen.
The crash I get is:
LoginId:6577d75243cef08010bfa58cd2d619c0
EpicAccountId:
Assertion failed: [File:Unknown] [Line: 660] BulkData compressed header read error. This package may be corrupt!
AmidEvil_Win64_Shipping
frosty drift
@cinder mist you remember this one right?
crystal spruce
seams like a good old verify game files would fix that
frosty drift
nahi remember this error from a while back but i don't remember what causes it
verifying or reinstalling probably won't work
proud cliff
@ Jakob I've tried many times. Unfortunately no change "/
Just did a fresh install moments ago before posting here
frosty drift
hope simmo gets on here soon ish
proper oxide
hm
frosty drift
he'll probably remember how to fix that error
proud cliff
No rush guys. I appreciate any assistance.
proud cliff
3840x2160
proper oxide
that miiiiiiiiiiiiight be it, i know it gets kinda fucky with certain resolutions
devout olive
avain it's 2am
proper oxide
try changing it in a config file
devout olive
simmo probably fell asleep
proud cliff
I don't mean to sound like a moron here, but I can't seem to locate a config file
proper oxide
dont feel like that
cause i struggled to find it too
lemme see if i can find it again
frosty drift
\AppData\Local\AmidEvil\Saved
proper oxide
this is why videogames are awful
proper oxide
should be under \saved\config\windowsnoeditor\gameusersettings
frosty drift
yea that's the file you want if you want to manually change your resolution
set resX and Y appropriately and then save
plucky isle
In the balls
frosty drift
please leave
plucky isle
What
old kelp
amid evil world
gloomy comet
argh guys y and x sens are different!!!
I've already have "lock to aspect" option on, it only change the sensitivity the other way around (y slower and x faster)
ah ok, as soon as you move the sense, the ratio change
ok
gloomy comet
Yeah, it was the same as default and I was already sick XD btw any way to disable the blue flash when you get pickups? Quite intrusive for me
(oh man those flashes all the time, are really intense...)
tardy cove
Look in video options, you can lower/disable those flashes there
gloomy comet
@tardy cove ok yes,.in hud options, thanks, much better ^^ btw.is normal that game in pause say "gog build 2012?"
tardy cove
Yeah, that's the current build I think
gloomy comet
Ah ok, thanks. Thats odd tho
Resume is out of the border in pause menu
Discord didn't accepted the screen upload
hexed obsidian
You gotta have a rank to post pictures.
gloomy comet
Uploaded on that
hexed obsidian
The resume thing seems like intended behaviour as far as I can tell, has been in the game for quite a while now. Not sure if it's something Leon and Simmo are looking at fixing in the future. Maybe with the RTX update 💁♂️
gloomy comet
What, rtx update is coming? Argh... I have a 2060...
Mmm... I'll stop playing it :'D?
hexed obsidian
I think Dave said that it's planned for some time in early 2020, but who knows?
He recently posted quite a few RTX screens on twitter
gloomy comet
Ill take a look, thanks
But even now at some point the game dropped to 60fps!!
I think it will probably runs like crap with rtx
hexed obsidian
iirc there have been some comments about performance on here / twitter recently as well
AE is running at pretty smooth 1080/60 on my 2012 potato rig, not sure what could cause the hitches on your end
gloomy comet
i7 4770k and 2060 on 1440p with cap at 135fps with gsync
in one point with various enemies on screen and the right click power actived (while using the thing that shoot blue balls) it tanked to 60ish fps
all on epic
I think it's probably particle effects
hexed obsidian
There was also this thread concerning performance related to fps caps, not sure if there's something in there that might help you
gloomy comet
i was actually using rtss cap, but and I saw the slowdown at rtss showed 60fps or so, I'll take a look to the topic, thanks ^^
it was a very brief moment tho
but it was there, only that single part, otherwise in can drop to 120fps, but that's it for now
lethal elk
I think capping it above 133 fps make the weapons fire slower btw
gloomy comet
@lethal elk wtf you are right, I've played with slower rate weapons...
even then it was quite easy for now even if a bit too spongey
lol I guess I'll cap it to 130fps...
this is oddly insane btw, why even put a cap over that if game is broken......
now I get the axe, never used since was super slow...
man, this is mental, unpolished af... sorry but it can't be a thing in almost 2020
I never going to get a thing like that if you didn't told me, and continued to play the game like that in a sort of slowmo.
hexed obsidian
Shouldn't hurt to make another post in the steam forums about it, seems like something that's easily addressed in a future patch
lethal elk
I used to think the voltride needed a buff before I figured out the frame rate thing caused my weps to fire slower
Leon is aware of it from what I recall
gloomy comet
oh my, speed change on differen cap, 60 and 120 fps are ok speed, 90fps cap is really slow like over 133fps, 130fps cap is a bit faster then 60/120fps cap... this doesn't make any sense :/
what's the ideal cap then, 120 that is the same as 60fps speed?
lethal elk
I use 133 cap
gloomy comet
130/133 cap is faster then 60/120 cap actually