every unreal engine game always feels off to me
#amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown
solid ridge
Yeah, coming from quake/source the mouse feels weird, like I'm playing a 4:3 stretched game
But I fixed in some way setting different sensitivity for x and y axis
glass glade
do you have lock to aspect ratio turned on and have you found the right sensitivity?
oh
hmm
solid ridge
I did but the first time I played the game last year I found it weird too
But as I said, tweaking and messing with the settings fixed
glass glade
When I played this game i immediately used mouse-sensitivity to convert my x and y from another game, perhaps the game has an unusual x/y ratio by default and that makes it feel off? Maybe try converting your sens from another game like I did
solid ridge
@lunar garden should try the same
lunar garden
ya ive been messing with it just cant get it to feel right, but thats every unreal engine game for me
thanks for the help though guys
solid ridge
Np
light obsidian
how come the fish featured in the sacred path don't have a codex entry?
static socket
cause they fish
light obsidian
dam
light obsidian
it's great for dealing with airborne enemies, yeah
plucky isle
wish there were some flying dudes in E1M2
crystal spruce
It's good for fliers, enemies on fire and the rolling spike balls
light obsidian
i just took out the axe for the shield boys in solar solstice
crystal spruce
That's the only viable choice
You'll be using the Axe till the end, but E6 and E7 definitely require other weapons, least of all the Aeturnum
light obsidian
i still had no idea what i was doing against the episode 3 boss.
lilac copper
yea
crystal spruce
Evil
lilac copper
but you gotta find it
crystal spruce
Cause Quake
crystal spruce
It's in the Gateway
lilac copper
if that's your attitude aint gonna tell you
quiet meadow
Amid Weevil
light obsidian
plucky isle
ppl still can't find Evil diff, lmao
crystal spruce
smh
lilac copper
not even that much
nah
you just run all the way back to the portal that lets you go there
dont think you have to replay everything
evil didnt feel that bad until forges
glass glade
Evil IL speedruns are feeling pretty bad lol
lilac copper
lol
glass glade
still only on e1m2
lilac copper
it is hurt, yea
crystal spruce
E5M2 feels like a difficulty spike because of the environmental hazards
lilac copper
hehe
crystal spruce
E5M3 might just make people quit if they're playing on Evil
When the Forges first released, I got lost on that episode and stopped played for a while
knotty imp
I found the enemies in Episode 5
to be much more of a pain in the ass
than the environmental puzzles
knotty imp
I treated those enemies almost as an hp tax
I pretty used some of that purple stuff
mainly against the porcupine peeps
light obsidian
what should i expect from episode 5,
crystal spruce
Death
knotty imp
fun platforming
asshole enemies
if you like Sen's Fortress from Dark Souls
you will love Episode 5
lilac copper
so you mean it's piss easy after two times?
lilac copper
better fist them then
light obsidian
sounds like a fun time
knotty imp
I had the displeasure of doing Episode 5 on Evil in my first playthrough
lilac copper
hehe
light obsidian
ill stick with hard fr the time being
light obsidian
knotty imp
waiting for the DUSKxAE crossover
plucky isle
DAESK
glass glade
sup @opal moth , you runnin this game too or just playing casually?
nice
doing 100% evil runs
I kinda hate myself for it
i've probably been running for 10 hours and im on level e1m2 >.>
hopefully that means my times will be hard to beat but idk i might just suck
oh not straight
just of my playtime
placebo
well, make sure you have run toggled to always on if you don't. If it's off idk if it makes you go faster to jump or not
lilac copper
at least it doesnt slow you down because of jumping
would be bored to death if jumping around for no reason was slower
glass glade
dammit i actually got a good time but wasn't recording because i didn't think id be able to get a good time yet
silly me
silk prawn
the person who thought puting platfoming and enviromental hazards all over the forge chapter would be a good idea needs their brain amputated
lilac copper
could it be that.... you dont like boys
silk prawn
its insane how rocket jumping is the safest method of travel
lilac copper
simmo wasnt that fast
spice moat
In fact I wouldn't mind Laser Boys being hitscan if they really telegrahped their attacks
crystal spruce
The only problem I have is that they move too quickly after firing a laser, giving you almost no time to shoot IF you don't have an Azure Orb
The start of E5M3 is a good example
spice moat
I can blow 'em up with the claw pretty reliably
crystal spruce
On Evil?
crystal spruce
Hmm, guess it's on me then
spice moat
than the Claw
knotty imp
I almost never used claw
in my Evil run
because Claw kept hurting me way more
while I see enemies tank them like a boss
spice moat
In fact, I'm going to ask a question on the spoiler channel about this
crystal spruce
True, but it's 1 planet vs 3 saber slashes
knotty imp
maybe my planet sucks
but I seen even basic enemies just eat a planet
like it was nothing
lilac copper
the people of your planet are weak
knotty imp
while everytime I use a planet
it has the radius of a nuclear explosion in self damage
but the radius of a peanut against enemies
dreamy coral
because video games
lilac copper
there's enough HP around to take some self damage
knotty imp
I was on Evil
lilac copper
yea?
knotty imp
so I was very worried about taking damage
Episode 5 was almost my breaking point in terms of hp
lilac copper
ofc assuming you dont really get hit that often by enemies
crystal spruce
Ep 5 is kinda bad, but Ep 6 has the spongiest enemies
Those riders take 2 Aeturnum shots, or 7 planets
EACH
knotty imp
I thought the Forge was worse in sponge factor
but that maybe because Forge also does an insane amount of damage
crystal spruce
Well the only spongy enemy there is the Porcupine guy and the Hook dude
knotty imp
I had to end up using alot of Aeturnum on the Porcupines
crystal spruce
That is the safest way
crystal spruce
There's always that one fucker in the room after the silver key, have to cheese him every single time
knotty imp
seems like there is a small grace period
between when they start shootinga
and when it starts to hurt
hallow brook
is it normal for most of the melee enemies to deal like 3HP damage even on Evil difficulty?
glass glade
From what I can tell the main thing that changes is the frequency of enemy attacks not their damage, but I might be wrong about that. Feels like enemies on evil are constantly spamming me
glass glade
Pretty proud of the run I posted in #367994496451084298 . Definitely room for improvement but I think the route seems pretty optimized.
vivid flame
Photo taken before the disaster
dreamy prairie
vivid flame
XD
brazen forge
Dont do it
static socket
congrats
now you will constantly hunger for more
creating a void that will (probably) never be filled
glass glade
until their next game comes out :)
fringe flint
god dam that maze in journeyman's way is evil
craggy cypress
@static socket yeah sure....
static socket
what? ๐ฆ
craggy cypress
Was kind of soul sucking tbh. I felt drained of anything by the end of it.
static socket
noooo ๐ฆ
craggy cypress
I've been holding off on playing it for a few months now until the full game released because i had some small hope they might somehow make it better by now? But no, I'm sorry I really wanted to like it... But...
static socket
dude youre gonna make leon cry
craggy cypress
Leon made me cry with level 3 of episode 7 so
craggy cypress
I did.
I got stuck trying to push the button between the two twin terrors with 5 health
static socket
...two?? you gotta kill em
craggy cypress
Again and again and again and again and again and again...
static socket
they have like no health, 3 aeternum shots will kill em
craggy cypress
Either way one less frustration wouldnt save this thing.
static socket
i can hear leon sobbing already
craggy cypress
Eh
I still like leon.
Was just hoping for more given he made return of the triad.
Which is better than both of the rott games
Its not aweful
But I wouldn't say its good
glass glade
im curious what you dont like about it, i find it more frustrating than dusk but cant quite put my finger on why
(still love it tho)
static socket
i find it a lot less frustrating in dusk imo
craggy cypress
Hold on this will take an hour
craggy cypress
Nah, any complaints I have cover the core of the game, rarely the individual levels.
static socket
okaye
craggy cypress
I wasn't joking
crystal shuttle
wait did that take 15 minutes
craggy cypress
i coppied and pasted my paragraphs deleted it typed my respons and pasted it back in so I can keep typing.
crystal shuttle
oh okay
static socket
im still waiting for the legendary awesreek review of amid evil (2019)
craggy cypress
I've had to move to a new window now
crystal shuttle
write a steam review at this point
craggy cypress
So I mean I guess to start positive the game looks nice, mostly, but I find the art direction very unfulfilling, whilst I can't always put my finger on it the game has this overriding feel of blandness to it that leaves me underwhelmed. The only time I ever really loved the visuals was in episode 5, as I have a dark and stormy rain and thunder fetish, almost kind of wish the entire game was like that but anyways.
The games Combat is tedious at the best of times, but not really for any one reason, more like a couple constantly compounding each other. Whilst some of the weapons are cool in concept they are incredibly bland in practice, its basically the doom arsenal with no pistol or fists, except incredibly unsatisfying.
The axes swing is way to slow, and because of how its swung it feels like the guy swinging it is trying to pretend its heavy and failing miserably.
The water staff sounds like someone sloshing water around in their mouth, and its animation is so bouncy it has no impact.
The satisfaction of a sword is hitting something with it which is why the soul blade thing... Fails miserably, its got another problem... but I'll get to it, all the weapons have this issue but its the worst with this one.
The trident is God awefully annoying to listen to, its zappy sounds are like nails on a chalk board.
The celestial claw is.... ignoring the fact its an overhyped RL is so bassy and quiet, its got no satisfying impact to its sound it feels rather pitiful.
The mace is this games only good weapon, so no need to complain about it.
and the eternum is a wet and underwhelming fart that boringly turns enemies into white dust.
All of the weapons with the exception of the Celestial claw and eternum (espeically the soul blade) suffer from this issue of their impact effects. Wehn an enemy is hit you want it to feel like you are hurting them, like you're piercing they're flesh, but in amid evil it just feels like all your attacks are just pinging off of them and doing nothing.
What hurts this games pacing the most I feel is you get all the weapons by episode 2, meaning it feels like this game plays all of its cards to early, this was a problem I had with dusk but tbh it feels even worse here due to how few weapons there actually are. I'm sure someone will say "BUT AWESREEK SOUL MODE MAKES IT SO THERE'S LIKE 14 WEAPONS!!!" No and here is why, they are all overpowered, meaning it doesn't matter which one you choose they all just melt enemies making it effectively a pull trigger to win mode, which is in and of itself rather dull.
Enemy types are... God awefully annoying in this game. For starters their stunn animations feel very slow and as if they are trying to replicate what I guess you would call realistic motion as of being hit by something, but it just makes it feel like you're doing very little to them. Their hitboxes are massive making them difficult to manuever around, some of their attacks are just flat out irritating (THOSE GOD FORSAKEN SPEARMEN FROM E5 LEON). But they all feel very spongey, even if they really aren't they feel like it, which I think comes from 1: the slow stunn animations and 2:the fact it feels like attacks just ping off of them.
But in my opinion the thing that truly cripples the enemies for me is the utter refusal to have enemies carry over between episodes. This game never feels like it escalates even if it does get more challenging, because rather than buidling up a memorable enemy roster that slowly introduces more and more tougher enemies, old weak enemies are replaced with new slightly stronger but still weak enemies. Meaning as soon as you might start to commit these enemies to memory and they might start to grow on you, they are dropped immediately 3 levels later. It does a grand disservice to them all and makes them all simply feel throwaway and disposable. Worse it means the game never is really allowed to throw something truly powerful at you, something that just 1 of could crush you.
The levels are underwhelming, I mean visually they look nice but they do nothing for me. I do hate those really claustrophobic paths that tucker you in with enemies who's attacks you can't hope to dodge, especially when its on platforming bits and any slight movements will see you falling off the edge.
and finally the bosses... some of them are good, but the bosses for episode 2,3, and 6, no... just no...
glass glade
oh my
left marlin
Essay
fresh plume
master's thesis
fringe flint
that's cynical
craggy cypress
I don't want to be,
topaz stump
Holy shit what the fucj
fresh plume
tbh i just read through it and i agree with some of that (though i haven't come close to finishing the game yet)
static socket
i can literally hear leon sobbing rn
dreamy coral
nice essay, awesreek
topaz stump
The more i read this the more i get disappointed
craggy cypress
@topaz stump I wanted to like this game i really really did. Especially with the circumstances I recieved it under. But DEAR GOD by the end of it I just had all the life sucked out of me.
dreamy coral
Leon is crying rn lol
fresh plume
also seriously awes you did not need to write a literal essay
static socket
dude leon is bawling his eyes out
night ginkgo
nah I don't care
dreamy coral
oh
fresh plume
i feel like you say you did at the end of the game
topaz stump
Well i guess back to working on your alien marriage game
night ginkgo
people are allowed to have opinions
static socket
those are the words of a broken man he's hiding his sorrow
frosty drift
oof score 0/2 for new blood
craggy cypress
0/2?
dreamy coral
yโknow what, Leon, I respect that you respect other peopleโs opinions
frosty drift
our games bad
night ginkgo
of course
craggy cypress
I still love leon
dreamy coral
itโs what good people do
topaz stump
Its ok. Time for more futurama art work thats not futuruama
static socket
oooooof
fringe flint
i like the sound of the trident. zap zap zap, snap crackle pop
craggy cypress
Again he made return of the triad, and that face... no one cannot love that face
static socket
the trident sounds epic but its the worst weapon lol
dreamy coral
trident is satisfying as hell to me tbh
night ginkgo
it's ok awesreek maybe you'll like the next game
dreamy coral
what next game
fringe flint
worst weapon? no way it can overkill and cause all the nearby enemies to short out
night ginkgo
there will be one assuming AE sells enough
static socket
yea but the guys move so quick its hard to keep the trident situated on them
night ginkgo
otherwise I'm going back to selling coffee
static socket
amid coffee
night ginkgo
it literally makes more money than vidya
craggy cypress
Dusk is fucking awesome you heretic
fringe flint
mmm coffee]
static socket
dusk sucks
lone hatch
Dusk is not as good as alien marriage game tbqh
night ginkgo
dusk is good
static socket
this is #amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown
topaz stump
I helped make dusk u dumb
static socket
true
glass glade
Awesreek I respect your opinion, but man, a lot of what you said was the polar opposite of how I feel. It's all mostly opinion though so I can't really give any rebuttal to it.
night ginkgo
yeah anyway there were lessons learned from AE, I think we did make too much shit
dreamy coral
itโs good shit though, Leon
static socket
but i want more, leon ๐ฆ
night ginkgo
next game will be more consistent with stuff like enemies and progression
topaz stump
Ep 3 secret should be rat related.
craggy cypress
@glass glade yeah I knew no one would agree with me.
static socket
i made dusk
lone hatch
So when ppl complain about ratacombs just blame steev
topaz stump
Ye
dreamy coral
ratacombs not good
craggy cypress
i thought david got sick of making good levels and was just like screw it, I'll make a crappy one and hide it.
fringe flint
i just got stuck in that god damn thing like 30 mins ago
glass glade
Do a lot of people have a problem with the enemy variety Leon? I personally thought that was one of the coolest parts of the game was how it changes from chapter to chapter
craggy cypress
Not that I've seen
static socket
same, i thought each episode having different sets of enemies, while still being in same categories, was a stroke of genious
craggy cypress
Most people praise that.
Most people also think the weapons feel great
and that the levels are amazing
so
eh
static socket
yeah i think AE has consistently amazing levels, there wasnt a single one i didnt like
dusk on the other hand, fuck episode 3
night ginkgo
originally all the enemies were gonna be the types in ep7
dreamy coral
I liked all of the levels in Amid Evil
night ginkgo
that purple abstract kinda stuff
dreamy coral
theyโre big and open
craggy cypress
I think the best way I can put it, is I'm more mad that I can't love it than I am that I think its mediocre.... i'll go with that I'm not sure how to word it.
night ginkgo
yeah people like my levels a lot I've been offered huge money to work on other games
night ginkgo
but me and simmo wanna do our own thing
static socket
oh ok
fresh plume
dusk on the other hand, fuck episode 3
outside of ratacombs what's even wrong with dusk e3's levels
glass glade
e3 was litty
craggy cypress
episode 3 was great
static socket
ehhhh
night ginkgo
the game is marmite for some people
fresh plume
some people are weird
dreamy coral
is that a good thing or a bad thing?
night ginkgo
marmite means you like some parts, hate some parts
static socket
yes
dreamy coral
ah
fringe flint
i'm in ep3 now. not enough combat for my taste
static socket
when leon sums up my feelings perfectly
night ginkgo
like some people hate the forges, others love it
dreamy coral
@fringe flint which level are you on?
static socket
leon give me the video with the forgemaster dabbing PLEASE
craggy cypress
I love it visually, like I said I have a stormy rain fetish
static socket
hes my favorite boss I NEED THIS
fringe flint
i think i just finished e3m3
dreamy coral
cool
stuck crescent
Imo AE needed different enemy types considering how different each episode was. So far I actually prefer AE over Dusk.
dreamy coral
I think both games are good
static socket
leon please i need the video of the forgemaster dabbing
fringe flint
too bad newblood hates money
craggy cypress
stormy and rains is the best atmosphere
dreamy coral
yeah, I thought you guys hate money?
stuck crescent
Both are good, but AE just really pulls me into those fantastical worlds.
glass glade
dusk pulls me in with dat movement and ae pulls me in with dat combat
static socket
right now ae has a lot more replayability for me but once the dusk sdk comes out then im outta here
im gonna remake ae in dusk ok?
night ginkgo
dreamy coral
the dusk sdk is gonna be crazy once it comes out
static socket
THANK YOU
crystal shuttle
i really wish there were some quirks to AE's movement, otherwise i loved the game
Was there any particular reason to not have them?
craggy cypress
I thought most of the bosses were to easy tbh
dreamy coral
yeah, amid evilโs movement feels a bit slow too slow for me
craggy cypress
the final boss was neat though
stuck crescent
Yeah sdk is gonna do a lot for Dusk, but still, I love AE.
stuck crescent
Yeah, Unreal ruined it lol
glass glade
I thought the same thing, but after speedrunning it for a while I almost... like that it doesn't have movement tech? I feel like a heathen for saying that but if I could change the movement I don't think I would
static socket
AE is literally the only good game on unreal 4 right now
amid evil 2 will be on xray
crystal shuttle
a way out is UE4 isnt it?
craggy cypress
oof
glass glade
that still looks like it was far into development wasn't it?
glass glade
wtf
knotty imp
"If you're watching this, and I didn't link you, you're a bad person."
glass glade
are the textures from something else? how did you make all those textures so fast
crystal shuttle
holy shit
static socket
its nice to see how established everything was so early on wow
night ginkgo
idk we make stuff fast
knotty imp
glad the damage flash is toned down on launch
night ginkgo
when you're starting on a project there's a lot of hype
static socket
the art style, the movement, HUD, even the axe sprite is already there
thats like wow
night ginkgo
AE had some lulls where I did fuck all for months
static socket
AE wouldve released in 2017 if leon hadnt have been lazy
night ginkgo
UE4 is good if you know what you're doing
glass glade
unity is an amazing engine, it's just so open to the public that a lot of garbage gets made on it
crystal shuttle
it has that reputation because of all the "heh i maek horror haem" stuff
static socket
UE4 is good but drastically overhyped
everyone thinks unreal game = pretty wow godrays and bloom
knotty imp
Jump Force
lone hatch
UE4 is good because it has Fortnite
static socket
shut up
glass glade
You've probably answered this somewhere already, but is AE "done"? Or will you continue work on it if launch is a big enough success?
knotty imp
want some AE multiplayer
static socket
ae expansions ๐
night ginkgo
no multiplayer
crystal shuttle
dlc ๐
knotty imp
thinking about it
glass glade
I can't wait for the mmorpg update
knotty imp
AE seems like a decent choice for consoles
static socket
no! we call them expansion packs
night ginkgo
I think if we decide to do an expansion we'd probably do it as a seperate game
like wolf old blood
topaz stump
Fuck Multiplayer
glass glade
or minecraft 2
fringe flint
i friggin loved old blood
night ginkgo
same
fringe flint
great game
night ginkgo
pipe = best friend rip
crystal shuttle
so like
is that thing in the portal of prophecy going anywhere
night ginkgo
perhaps
crystal shuttle
hmmm
topaz stump
Ae expansions cancelled cuz yall keep memeing about it
knotty imp
AE: Trip to Dusktown
topaz stump
Smh
night ginkgo
there's also the black labyrinth
dreamy coral
Amid Evil and Dusk crossover when?
static socket
๐ฎ
knotty imp
Black Labyrinth sounds like a cool prequel
static socket
PREQUEL PREQUEL PREQUEL
knotty imp
would that be mainly puzzles and platforming?
night ginkgo
who knows
dreamy coral
it better be
static socket
champion beats the fuck out of some demons with his fists
night ginkgo
most likely
dreamy coral
champion meets doomguy in hell
crystal shuttle
hold on now, i wont play it without the axe
if you get is as a reward for completing the black labyrinth
glass glade
Am I the only one that thinks the axe feels great lol
static socket
the axe is the best
night ginkgo
no lmao
crystal shuttle
but muh lore
glass glade
Oh okay, just kept seeing people talk shit about it
static socket
no its fucking fantastic
stuck crescent
Soul mode for the axe is fucken awesome, first time using it blew my mind.
dreamy coral
axe in soul mode is just a boat propeller
glass glade
I was happy that my speedrun route for e1m2 uses propeller mode to move faster lol, was glad i fit that in there
static socket
AE is literally the only retro fps game where i can whip out the melee and still feel fucking powerful
dreamy coral
^
static socket
and the axe was nerfed can you believe it
knotty imp
I hope they add the axe as a crossover weapon in Dusk
glass glade
Oh god it used to be even better?
night ginkgo
it might be showing up in maximum action
dreamy coral
nani
static socket
i cant wait to mod in the celestial claw into max ax
night ginkgo
omae wa mou axeroo
fringe flint
nah the dude went into the black labyrinth with night vision goggles and a SMG. When he touched the axe, he became the champion and reverted into a knight in armor
knotty imp
honestly
the Star of Torment is my favorite weapon in AE by far
I love nailgun like weapons
fringe flint
claw for me
glass glade
I like the trident just for the overkill mechanic
dreamy coral
star of torment is pretty good
knotty imp
I seen some Star of Torment kills send people into outerspace
night ginkgo
so we wanna do a sci fi game next, I have some whacked ideas already for some weapons
crystal shuttle
ohhh nice
dreamy coral
tell us these ideas mr Leon man
glass glade
lmao
dreamy coral
fair enough
glass glade
yes please
dreamy coral
yeah do that
glass glade
remove everything but the axe
night ginkgo
Fire lightning
Explosive gem grenade things
Sparkle powered magic
static socket
sparkle sparkle bitch
night ginkgo
triangle thing
dreamy coral
imagine being killed by the champion whoโs using fucking sparkles
glass glade
it should behave like a gattling gun of sparkles, but the animation is just pocket glitter
crystal shuttle
explosive gem grenade? like the ones that red guys in E1 shoot?
night ginkgo
yep but they were like jewels
I'll upload the alphas some point
and you guys can see how terrible it was
stuck crescent
Scifi game next could be pretty sweet, look forward to seeing what you guys have in store.
glass glade
it better have fortnite dances and surprise mechanics
stuck crescent
Considering how visually stunning AE is, scifi would be no exception.
static socket
yesss
dreamy coral
Iโd like to see sci-fi amid evil
dreamy coral
same
fringe flint
ornate tulip
ye
night ginkgo
signal quartz
static socket
stuck crescent
lilac copper
replaying the older episodes before moving to the new ones. I disliked sacred path alot on my first time but it has really grown on to me
really enjoy this architecture and the enemy revamp is nice
cool lighting effects from those torch guys
crystal spruce
Yea
quasi pier
aaand Amid Evil finally completed! what a journey!
crystal spruce
What's your favorite episode
quasi pier
i very much liked abstractness of the last episode, and i was pleasantly suprised about last boss, it had intereresting mechanics
i have 3 favourites, first ep because its has classic gameplay
episode 4 for yellow theme and that tower level
and episode 6 for Heretic influences
forges was a little meh, didnt like traps and platforming in e5m3
i liked episode 3 from the beginning, before enemy\pacing revamp
very good exploration episode
episode 2 is just good, nothing less and nothing more
overall it was a great adventure, one of the best games ive played in years
crystal spruce
Good to hear
knotty imp
Amid evil felt fun to marathon
spice moat
I'll just say this
I was really skeptical about Dusk when I first heard about it
Amid Evil was love at first sight
The "seven episodes" pitch probably helped
knotty imp
Both are very good games
I honestly prefer dusk but that is very much personal taste
And both are well worth full price
spice moat
I'm waiting for Dusk to drop at GOG
knotty imp
Dusk is already DRM free on steam if that means anything
Or atleast once you install it, nothing is stopping you from running it without steam I believe
night ginkgo
guys
amid evil doing really well on steam
thanks everyone for the support and positive reviews etc
if all goes well we get to make MORE GAMES
knotty imp
Big fan of more games
devout olive
if it keeps going really well we can make black labyrinth expansion featuring THE STICK
#bringbackthestick
devout olive
champion fist super punch soul power mode
crystal spruce
Put Diid Jiil in the expansion
devout olive
old kelp
!roadmap Amid evil
spice moat
of tormet.
night ginkgo
welcome to my personal hell
queen leaf
Man it's very colourful.
crystal spruce
WELCOME to the GAUNT L E N T
rustic bloom
of cours their correct
what makes you think that grammer in amid evil universe is not different than the one we have irl
deep
fringe flint
the dark side of developer Discord
MOAR MOAR MOAR
leon give them what they want
season pass
turns out to just be new memes every two weeks
night ginkgo
Would that even be bad
fringe flint
and an OST remix album, all Trap music
night ginkgo
Andrew does harmonica versions
fringe flint
to be honest, a DLC that just replaces random textures with memes would probably be steam top seller heh
night ginkgo
Oof
fringe flint
DONT DO THAT
night ginkgo
Memes aren't great in games tbh
fringe flint
yes
night ginkgo
They get old fast
fringe flint
yes
queen leaf
Phew
queen leaf
Home grown memes.
fringe flint
doom 2016 was good like that
spice moat
The Confectionary is False
spice moat
AEDEEPDREAM
night ginkgo
Aeeeeeeeee
plucky isle
Aeproctectors
night ginkgo
AElmao
crystal spruce
Not gonna lie
This game has some of the most nauseating levels Iโve ever played.
spice moat
I imagine from episode 7
plucky isle
๐คข
crystal spruce
Imagine playing this game in VR
wheat yarrow
Vomit inducing
crystal spruce
Imagine AEDIIDJIIL in VR
lapis hound
vagrant plover
The journey begins!
plucky isle
journies
copper tundra
godspeed, you beautiful bastard
old kelp
Omg no
random needle
Just finished the secret level.
vagrant plover
Such wonderful scenery ๐
tall temple
๐
plucky isle
๐ ๐ ๐
knotty imp
hope they never patch out Pill Guardian
crystal spruce
I felt my butt clench
light obsidian
@crystal spruce me during the last gauntlet at the end of E4M3
lime spindle
did the stats for ep3 get reset 'cause it comes up as completed yet i have no playtime,kills or secrets?
smoky cypress
@crystal spruce just watched it, great gameplay
crystal spruce
Thanks fam
crystal spruce
What's the script in this game from? It looks like Tibetan written upside down, or at least inspired by Tibetan.
old kelp
how do i get to the secret level?
crystal spruce
@hearty maple Is that something you'd know?
plucky isle
@old kelp Check the area around Arcane Expanse portal
random needle
Wanna see something funny? Go into Soul Power mode, switch to your BFG (can't remember exactly what it was called, but it's Weapon 7), fire, and then walk into the black hole that's generated.
crystal spruce
Cool, I got that right. ๐
spice moat
@random needle S U C C
plucky isle
fkn OBLITERATED
crystal spruce
I imagine the order of letters and actual writing is arbitrary?
Doesn't seem like the kind of game to have a secret language to decode... would be cool though, since it's something I'd work on.
hearty maple
@old kelp It's hidden away behind the Arcane Expanse portal in the gateway ;)
dark granite
im not sure exactly, but i dont think theres any structure to it, but i could be totally wrong
i was just told its upside down tibetan
dark granite
the dudes who would know will be around to answer it shortly in all liklihood
theyre from aus/nz so theyll be waking up soon
crystal spruce
Haha, nice try, but I know that the world is flat and Aus/NZ are actually government funded conspiracies to keep the truth from people!
Just kidding. :^)
I hope to hear what they say ๐
dark granite
speak of the devil
crystal spruce
Honestly, Tibetan already looks pretty alien, like Klingon.
dark granite
told ya itd be soon
vivid flame
This is the dude that play cute characters in figther games
crystal spruce
But the character order and placement is wholly arbitrary?
vivid flame
also, completed this level, but not get achivement
will replay on evil dificulty, any clue where is?
crystal spruce
Yeah
glass glade
@night ginkgo Do you guys have any plans on making the in game timer more precise? Because right now some of the leaderboards for this game look like this ๐คข https://gyazo.com/dfd793739ef5d501cb28f5d4dd72500d
night ginkgo
Don't sppedrunners use their own timers?
glass glade
we use igt right now because it's most accurate, we're hopefully gonna get an RTA timer made with livesplit but those are hard to make
no games that i know of use the manual start timers though because that's pretty unreliable
glass glade
cool :) no rush I don't think anyone minds that much, it would just be nice to have
night ginkgo
Hope to see some dank exploits
glass glade
your game seems annoyingly well polished so far haha, but we'll always keep looking. Most I've seen from anyone is just skips
fringe flint
Looking forward to speed runs
opaque jacinth
anyone got any experience running amid evil on linux as of yet
i know it'll get ported
but im impatient
glass glade
oh also a dedicated reset button would be dank, aesplode works okay but it's kind of annoying to type out every time
random needle
Does UE4 support binding keys to console commands? If so, maybe try that?
glass glade
oh maybe, im kinda an ue4 noob
spice moat
Isn't the console inaccessible in this?
fringe flint
Reset to what? Restart level?
glass glade
yeah
night ginkgo
hmm what other games have a reset button
dire briar
signal quartz
Yaaaay soundtrack dlc is finally here,yaaaaaaaay.
glass glade
dusk has a reset button, it's F1 @night ginkgo . Maybe it just spoiled me
silent lion
i know this is gonna be a hard question to answer, but does anyone know what the song from the beginning of the first level of the forges is called on the soundtrack?
i cant seem to find it on there
hoping it wasnt just excluded
silent lion
hmm, it must have been a different level
im gonna go back to that episode and check once i finish the void
thank you
!
night ginkgo
๐
fringe flint
are you supposed to be able to dodge the blocks from the corrupted soul in e3?
meager forge
yeah
you just have to watch for the soul's prediction
sometimes it can catch you off guard
fringe flint
once i need health, i'm done
meager forge
or just stand really far away
glass glade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRp0pUiYhfs spent like 4 hours running this map, my brain hurts.
fringe flint
woah
potent hatch
that's very impressive
fringe flint
yeah
glass glade
Thanks :D Glad my wasted hours accounted for something lol
meager forge
wait so you can rocket jump with the claw?
it only seemed to work 50% of the time for me
fringe flint
definitely
dreamy coral
yeah, it didnโt really feel like I was rocket jumping with the claw
I felt stationary
most of the time
meager forge
it was hard to pull off a rocket jump with it
fringe flint
at this time, I would like to call bullshit on the gaming journos that have failed to provide reviews for Amid Evil
dreamy coral
yeah
meager forge
amid evil's easy mode is too challenging for them
fringe flint
except for pete glagowski, he's a bro
meager forge
needs a journalist mode
meager forge
the dark souls of retro fps
meager forge
footage of journalist not being able to even clear the jump to normal difficulty
yeah episode 3 is a bitch to complete
dreamy coral
game to hard shows footage of journalist completely missing all of their shots and wasting their mana
glass glade
honestly it's kinda weird, the difficulties don't seem to change that much? At least when it comes to speedrunning. Evil only feels marginally harder than easy to me
fringe flint
if you aren't shooting at the enemies, probably not much to differentiate
meager forge
you can detail in ae spoilers if you like
glass glade
I'll put a more detailed desc in spoilers
dreamy coral
no, Dave, thank you
silent lion
incredible
glass glade
Oh shit, it's more successful than Dusk? I was worried it was less. That's fuckin great, means we can see more games from them
fringe flint
did what?
dire briar
we did memes
fringe flint
Dave is living memes
dreamy coral
and doggo enthusiaist
night ginkgo
we're doing way better than we thought we would
meager forge
oh yeah something i never mentioned in here, the sound design on the weapons is A+
like the whisper's edge equip sound is nut worthy
sonic compass
making higher quality games than most aaa studios man @dire briar
dreamy coral
oh hey itโs you again, @sonic compass
sonic compass
oh hey
harsh yacht
It was great to hear that it has been the best New Blood launch s far. Hope it keeps going up and up!
sonic compass
im a rat now
dreamy coral
same
harsh yacht
rat crew!
meager forge
amid rats
fringe flint
so important for devs to succeed without gambling mechanics and "recurrent user spending" bullshit
meager forge
indie games usually do better than triple a titles tbh
dreamy coral
yeah
meager forge
in terms of memorability
fringe flint
do better? how so? not in sales
sonic compass
in terms of making good quality games most of the time
fringe flint
oh yeah definitely
harsh yacht
I just beat Rage 2, it is a decent time burner, but it isn't as fun or memorable as Amid Evil that's for sure.
sonic compass
you're not gonna find a good quality game like dusk in a triple a studio
fringe flint
i didn't even buy Rage 2. Id Software is the only AAA studio I bother with, but Rage 2 wasn't really Id
best sound design of any game in Rage 2 tho
meager forge
it's still a good game though
it's fun if you don't overthink it
but a good game from triple a studios is hard to come by
it's usually revolutionary
fringe flint
they don't sell games any more
meager forge
i mean shit, look at doom, the game that popularized the fps genre
fringe flint
they sell partially completed crap that requires extra money and time to be plyable
intentionally made annoying so you pay to make it fun
pearl sparrow
Rage 2 was good, sure it was boring and repetitive, but the gunplay and abilities in general made it up for its flaws
harsh yacht
I have been playing a ton of GZDoom lately (just got done playing some custom maps)
meager forge
i didn't mind the repetitive nature of rage 2
cause i got to do cool combat shit
it's an id shooter
fringe flint
After I finish AE I'm going to try out Quake Copper
pearl sparrow
Me neither, but i get it why some people didn't like it
meager forge
is supposed to be repetitive
fringe flint
looks like exactly what Ive always wanted
meager forge
i'm working on finishing quake 2 since i got done with amid evil
harsh yacht
I have heard about Quake Copper, but I wasn't sure what it changes in Quake
pearl sparrow
It's just not for everyone, many people bought it thinking it as some sort of fallout type of game for some reason, instead of a doom type of game
fringe flint
I like Rage 1
meager forge
i don't
fringe flint
the racing part of it was garbage
meager forge
simply put i think rage 1 is incredibly mediocre
pearl sparrow
Ye, I agree rage 2 was better than rage 1
meager forge
for sure
harsh yacht
\a I can agree to that too, consensus
meager forge
rage 1 wasn't really open world
pearl sparrow
Rage 1 felt like a benchmark sort of game back in the days, short and very generic
meager forge
rage 2 lets you basically go anywhere
glass glade
when did this chat transform into #rage-2
meager forge
amid rage 2
pearl sparrow
Lol
meager forge
wingstick mod for ae when
winged ibex
I approve of this change.
harsh yacht
haha, it was my fault, I played rage 2 and amid evil both recently, but I was saying I was having more fun with amid evil
meager forge
conversations flow so it's aight as long as it comes back to the topic of ae
happens
pearl sparrow
I was just here to say that I was playing amid evil anyways, and loved the secret level lol
meager forge
oh yeah that was funny as hell
pearl sparrow
Not gonna spoil anything but, that boss was great and reminded me to play dusk again
meager forge
game was incredibly beautiful as well
even tho it's retro fps styled it looks stunning
and i didn't even know the weapons were 2D sprites
that's how detailed they are
glass glade
the weapons are 2d?!?!?!
pearl sparrow
Yo the 2d sprite weapons are amazing
glass glade
that's such impressive sprite work if they're 2d, I thought they were 3d models meant to look 2d
meager forge
i refuse to believe it's any other D
ornate tulip
by Star of Torment do you mean Diamond Shotgun? (because that's what I call it)
knotty imp
once you know it's a sprite
you really notice it's a weapon sprite
but before yeah
I couldn't tell
glass glade
it prefers to be referred to as spikey mace
pearl sparrow
The planet launcher gun is really trippy in a good way, I keep changing guns so I can see what type of planets I can get
harsh yacht
I know they achieve some of their effects with normal mapping of 2D sprites, but ya the star of torment is unreal. It is hard to believe that the normal mapping gets all of those angles correct
knotty imp
I also think there is alot of animation work for the sprites
to make them really look like 3d models
dreamy coral
I didnโt know the claw had a cameo in Toy Story
pearl sparrow
I can't remember their names for shit, I just call them the spike mace, planet launcher, the weird pink ribbon bfg thing
ornate tulip
Diamond Shotgun
fringe flint
electric trident
meager forge
the aeturnum has hands down the most badass sounding name of all the weapons
dreamy coral
it does
meager forge
voltrider is just quake 1 lightning gun when you use soulmode
lapis elm
original content ๐ ฑlightning gun
fringe flint
except for the overkill effect
pearl sparrow
Indeed
But it eats ammo like hell
Due to the fact that it also doesnt do that much damage
harsh yacht
I remember in Quake they wanted the lightning gun to arc between enemies, but didn't have time to finish it. So we got it in Amid Evil instead ๐
meager forge
all lightning guns eat ammo
glass glade
I feel like the voltrider is underestimated tbh
meager forge
at the cost of being able to shoot fucking lightning out of a gun
that's metal as fuck if you think about it
glass glade
its base damage sucks, but it's overkill effect is amazing crowd control
pearl sparrow
Fair point, before playing amid I was finishing blood fresh supply on steam, the tesla gun also wasted ammo like crazy
glass glade
https://gyazo.com/c4c3a474f5befdd9d36f56c5665924f9 none of these records are gonna last, but in the mean time im kinda proud of it
night ginkgo
noice
glass glade
oh hey speaking of leon, did you know you can skip getting the key on e1m2 even though you tried putting gates on the windows? lol
if you press E on the door even without the key the gates open up ๐คฆ
Seemed like you were trying to block speedrunners but we found a way around it
night ginkgo
press E on the door?
night ginkgo
uhhh where?
dark granite
E1L2's door requires the gold key
glass glade
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRp0pUiYhfs you can see me do it in this video
night ginkgo
what time code
glass glade
:23 i hit the door, then a little after that i go through the windows that are supposed to be closed
I don't think it should be patched out I just thought it was funny
dark granite
ah ok
night ginkgo
oh
glass glade
sorry im tired
glass glade
but it seemed like it was intentionally supposed to be blocked, as in you can't access the final area without the key yeah?
otherwise idk why those bars are there
night ginkgo
yeah the trigger is poking thru the door slightly
glass glade
aha, that makes sense
glass glade
Supposedly players are finding a lot of fun exploits in e7, a lot more than the other episodes. I haven't been looking because I don't want spoilers but people keep talking about it on our speedrun server
will relay them here once we have videos of em
dark granite
yeah it is
theres lots of little places you could skip stuff, fall through stuff, hit triggers that would teleport you, etc
glass glade
https://youtu.be/uhOj7-HlMOI hahaha look at this one, I'd say spoiler warning but you can't even tell what's going on
crystal spruce
Now that's a cool speedrun
crystal spruce
Aparently the staff of the azure orb prevents parasites from spawning in Domain of the Sentinels
brisk marsh
steam profile picture icons whatever they are for this game would be sick
knotty imp
Flail also prevent parasites from spawning too
Star of Torment
or atleast I noticed that I never seen parasites spawn from Star of Torment kills
crystal spruce
Yeah I knew about the Star of Torment
It's the go-to weapon for the episode
Except E2M1 where it's not present
Leon pls fix
knotty imp
for a "shotgun" weapon
it has a really nice and tight spread
and in soulmode, it pretty much turns into an insane dps machine
that rips and tears through anything
even bosses
crystal spruce
For some reason it tends to miss at point blank, which is a bit annoying
knotty imp
I think that is mainly because there is a delay between click
and it actually shooting
so you have to stay on target for a bit longer
than the click
crystal spruce
Or the fact that projectiles spawn from the side
Try it with Sacred Path
You'll miss the plant guys at point blank for some reason
knotty imp
I love the overkill
on flying enemies, they just go to outerspace
never to be seen again
some say they are still being flown across space and time
from the impact of the Star of Torment
silk prawn
the green weapons are the only ones improved by soul mode
plucky isle
Nah they just stick around
silk prawn
the rest get worse or stay the same
plucky isle
๐
knotty imp
the azure rod ||fucking destroys the 4th episode boss||
in soulmode
||pretty much skipped the entire fight with it lol||
knotty imp
solar
crystal spruce
This is easily game of the year 2019
my only complaint is that you can cancel soul mode when its active
plucky isle
Wish we could cancel this game instead
night ginkgo
oh shit we forgot to cancel it
plucky isle
Do it asap
silk prawn
if we could pause soul mode and only need some of the souls needed for next activation id be happy