#amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown

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static socket
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quake (and my friend literally bugging me daily to play arcane dimensions) made me fall in love with retro shooters. dusk and ae just extend that love

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i cant play quake on anything but nightmare these days lol

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also duskmare sucks, its just cero miedo with instakill

knotty imp
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yeah Cero felt like the perfect difficulty, or atleast intended way

static socket
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cero is the perfect difficulty

crystal shuttle
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is evil difficulty = duskmare?

knotty imp
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nah

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it's more Cero

crystal shuttle
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oh

static socket
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no, evil is more like nightmare in quake

knotty imp
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if Evil was Duskmare, everything would oneshot you

static socket
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as it should be

crystal shuttle
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so i guess i should have picked it instead of hard

static socket
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nah hard is good for a first playthrough

knotty imp
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I went Evil on my first run

static socket
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my first playthrough was medium and i had a rough time

knotty imp
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since a friend told me it's like Cero

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in difficulty

static socket
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now i cant play without evil lol

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duskmare should've been a seperate mode instead of a selectable difficulty imo

crystal shuttle
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i mean
i beat dusk on cero first playthrough

knotty imp
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I thought Evil was harder though

static socket
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like intruder mode

crystal shuttle
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is it really that tough?

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evil i mean

knotty imp
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since you can't just strafejump your way out of danger

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in Amid Evil

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like you could in DUSK

static socket
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nah evil is like quake's nightmare. just think of it as "skill 3"

crystal shuttle
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i never played quake 1 lol

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i dont know what that means

static socket
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i dont want to talk to you anymore

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jk

crystal shuttle
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hey that game is older than i am

knotty imp
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I wish Quake was older than me

static socket
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its older than me too

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so what

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my car is older than me

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(by about 25 years)

crystal shuttle
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you are older than me :)

static socket
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you gotta play quake. it's the quintessential FPS

honest parcel
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lmao i am already at the giant baby alien level

crystal shuttle
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i played it but
fahk i dont want to say it but i didnt really get into it because of the movement

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i liked the shooty shoot

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but like something felt off about moving

static socket
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quake has the best movement of any fps 😦

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what source port did you use?

knotty imp
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I absolutely adored DUSK's movement so much

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I kinda compared every game to it now

crystal shuttle
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i loved doom, Q3 , HL all that jazz

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i used several

static socket
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if you used darkplaces, it fucks with the movement

crystal shuttle
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quakespasm

static socket
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quakespasm is the way to go, or GLQuake with widescreen

crystal shuttle
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ye i plaed the first one

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played*

static socket
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hmmm

crystal shuttle
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like straifing and jumping, i dont know what was it really

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but it felt off

honest parcel
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Btw i NEED HL SOURCEPORTS

crystal shuttle
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maybe because i'm a huge source engine fanboy and spent 4000+ hours combined on source engine games

static socket
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source's movement is based on quake's its just agonizingly slow

crystal shuttle
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i didnt feel anything similar in quake compared to source

static socket
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strange though quake has the best movement of all of the retro FPS. hl1's movement is literally just quake's

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u should give it another shot

knotty imp
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I recalled every movement tech in Quake worked in HL1

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maybe except rocket jumping, since Gordon is a very frail being

crystal shuttle
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i spent like
over 300 hours on tf2 jump maps alone

static socket
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hl1 added crouching and removed rocket jumping, thats the only differences

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also the steam version removes the view sway when strafing

honest parcel
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because Goldsrc is quake's engine but EVOLVED

static socket
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which is a mistake

knotty imp
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I recalled Source Engine still has strafejumping?

crystal shuttle
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yes

static socket
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yeah but you have to disable the movement governors

honest parcel
static socket
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good idea

somber osprey
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yaay

crystal shuttle
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i see al those cracks in the walls and shoot them

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i wasted so much mana

somber osprey
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do not worry you did right

manic dragon
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gggman

buoyant phoenix
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greentext

crystal spruce
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ishygddt

signal quartz
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I always wonder why he's called shillmanlives...

rustic bloom
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because he shills

signal quartz
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D:

crystal spruce
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He did shill some games hard

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I think he did like 3 pre-release videos on Rage 2

stuck crescent
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he got a lot of backlash for FO76

crystal spruce
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Oh yeah, that too

night ginkgo
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well he liked amid

rustic bloom
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Who doesn't like Amid

night ginkgo
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a few people

rustic bloom
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Unimaginable!

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Looks like Dave didn't shill it enough

proud gull
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welp

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guess i gotta do that now

night ginkgo
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yeah few negative reviews

crystal spruce
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Brainlets I bet

night ginkgo
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worst is if it's a technical issue and they don't even post a forum topic or something

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hate that

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there's always something that we can fix

crystal spruce
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Can you fix my face?

night ginkgo
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yep

stuck crescent
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technical issues are easy, email or discord, that's a shit reason to leave a negative review

night ginkgo
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Yeah I kinda wish it was something that could be flagged

stuck crescent
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would be helpful, especially for devs

proud gull
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i'm playing amid evil without movement bob and i feel like a sorcerer

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it feels fucking awesome

stuck crescent
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did someone provide screens of the floating souls earlier?

crystal shuttle
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it's 5 hours before i turn 20 years old and i'm sitting here playing the shit out of amid evil

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for 4 hours now

night ginkgo
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🎂 happpppy birthday

crystal shuttle
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thank :)

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amid evil is a great gift

rustic bloom
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Happy Evilday

quasi pier
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happy birthday mate 🎂

marble palm
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mmm, you could've said "and i'm sitting here sad because i don't have amid evil yet"

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guaranteed free game. smh my head....

proud gull
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tfw you play amid evil for 2 hours and don't know it

crystal shuttle
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hey now, game's worth the money

stuck crescent
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Happy birthday! Great way to celebrate 20 with some AE

crystal shuttle
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thank :)

proud gull
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Amid Evil is fantastic

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like oh my god

night ginkgo
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ty vm 😄

crystal shuttle
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is it me or the electro-gun-thing is really op

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the blue one

crystal spruce
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Depends on the difficulty

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On Medium-Hard it's very useful

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On Evil you rarely have a chance to use it outside of Soul mode after the first episode

nocturne tapir
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it's absolutely hilarious if you manage to trigger a chain in a big group of weak mooks

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party poppers everywhere

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and yeah soul mode is an absolute beast, but then again, is there any soul mode weapon that isn't?

crystal spruce
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Celestial Claw, I feel

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Should have something more to it

nocturne tapir
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it deals absolutely insane AoE damage though

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but true, it's probably in the weaker end of them

crystal spruce
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The screenshake is also a bit too strong

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Makes it hard to see

nocturne tapir
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haven't thought too much about that myself, but yeah, it does shake things up a lot

proud gull
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but you fire a fuckin star

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god i love how over the top that fuckin is

elfin flame
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Question: is there a way to switch off soul mode after activating it to conserve soul?

night ginkgo
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no

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it would be wayyy too strong if you could do that

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originally the game didn't even let you activate it at your choosing

elfin flame
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huh

quasi pier
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you have a toggle for this in options

lofty thistle
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Permanent soul mode would be a funny speedrunning challenge though

tall temple
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Probably doable with cheat engine if you wanted to try it

nocturne tapir
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yeah the claw is a masterpiece in being ridiculously over the top

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it could be firing miniature planets/stars but NO

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IT PULLS THEM OUT OF SPACE AND SHRINKS THEM.

tall temple
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It's cool. The universe has a lot of planets to pull from.

crystal shuttle
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haha i'm at the forges

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what a

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nice level

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:)))

nocturne tapir
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it's very

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nice

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:^)

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have to say i love the visual style of the forges though

crystal shuttle
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yes

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but

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"gauntlet of torment" sounds pretty accurate

crystal spruce
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Is that E5M2?

crystal shuttle
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oh wait

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is there an order to play episodes in?

crystal spruce
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Canonically it's:

Astral Equinox
Domain of the Sentinels
Sacred Path
Solar Solstice
The Forges
Arcane Expanse
The Abyss

crystal shuttle
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oh no lol

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well i mixed it all up

fringe flint
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You can play in any order, that's by design

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Except for the first two and the final, of course

rustic bloom
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Why is it so hard to get our of water

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You have to get a noticeable speed to get out of it

night ginkgo
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unreal engine

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I have tried soooo many things

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to fix it

rustic bloom
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Damn

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Time to spam Epic Games with requests to fix the water

crystal spruce
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I don't get the timing for the Solar Saint's leap attack

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Sometimes I move out of the way and the aftershock kills me, sometimes I'm completely fine

night ginkgo
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you can jump up to avoid the shockwave

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you have to actually be touching the ring to hurt you

marble palm
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trouble getting outta the water? hmmm, maybe do it like in source where when you hit something in the water while on the surface you get pushed upwards outta the water

crystal spruce
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On Evil the motherfucker hits like a truck

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But it's much more fun to fight him without Soul mode

nocturne tapir
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yeah last time i fought him on evil, a direct hit from the leap attack instakilled me

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joke's on me for getting hit directly though :V

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oh fuck me it's time for the Ancient Sanctuary

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i hope it's a bit less spongey on Hard lol

crystal spruce
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Not by much

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BUT

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You can cheese it

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Hug the wall left of the Full Health

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Bricks don't damage you until it's like 20% health left

nocturne tapir
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i managed to not notice this tip before i beat it with literally the last two shots of blue mana i had

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lel

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circle strafing does not work against this mad lad

night ginkgo
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secret god mode is your friend

nocturne tapir
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but standing and wobbling around seems to work :v

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also this is where i should say "I NEED NO GOD MODE, I AM ALREADY A GOD" but i have to admit that i'm not that self confident '<'

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after all the happy bright lights of the pilgrims path i need some g l o o m

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so forges it is

crystal spruce
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Invulnerability seems a bit redundant for that boss

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You already have a lot of room to dodge his attacks

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imo a Legendary soul would be a much better secret

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Especially on Evil where you have no chance of getting a full Soul meter by destroying the bricks

night ginkgo
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it's good for that boss

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imo

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you can run around in the lava and pick all the mana etc up as well

crystal spruce
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Unless you get hit and flung across the map

steady bough
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Those assholes in the forge that do the Cactaur 1000 needles on my ass are mean.

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Very good enemy design, they look cool as hell and the needle machine gun effect is neat

crystal spruce
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Cactaur lol

night ginkgo
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we had this other game design for the 'god of pain' that was gonna puke nails, and he basically turned into that enemy

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that game ironically was gonna be called 'dusk'

steady bough
nocturne tapir
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!!!???!?!

crystal spruce
nocturne tapir
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also that feel when you use the aeturnum not to nuke those angry laser faces, but to nuke those thrice cursed fish

steady bough
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Soulmyr did you do something for serious Sam on the workshop? I swear Ive seen that username somewhere

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@nocturne tapir the best use of the modern art bfg is those goddamned fish

nocturne tapir
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y e p

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god i love the visual style of the forges so much

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[atmosphere intensifies]

steady bough
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Oh yeah. Its so cool. Coming from horrible eyeball flesh monsters to solar Aztec monsters to automaton green tinged hell is such a cool level and enemy design progression. Gonna try to finish out the forges tonight so I can finally get on the home stretch

crystal spruce
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Yeah I did some mods a while ago

steady bough
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I actually like the sudden shift to platforming in the forges. Normally I would be averse to first person platforming but none of the jumps are horrible bc you move like greased lightning.

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Ok cool

crystal spruce
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It's all fun and games until E6M2

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And E6M3 to a lesser degree

nocturne tapir
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i also like how you don't have rocket jumping in Amid Evil

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oh no, you have PLANET JUMPING

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or, if you're feeling risky, star jumping :V

crystal spruce
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Is there any use for star jumping?

night ginkgo
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Yeah

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Pain

dark granite
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lmao

nocturne tapir
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well i wouldn't put it past these mad lads to make like one super secret that requires it, but besides that... :V

crystal spruce
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Can you actually planet jump with Invulnerability?

night ginkgo
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Ye

crystal spruce
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Oh neat

nocturne tapir
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good shit

crystal spruce
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(Too bad there never happens, but still)

dark granite
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you can planet jump without invuln too

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you just have to embrace the hurt

night ginkgo
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Yeah it barely hurts you

dark granite
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6 damage or something?

night ginkgo
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Nah more isn't it?

dark granite
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i forget

night ginkgo
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Like 12

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Which is low af

dark granite
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yeah in quake its like fuckloads

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yeah its 12

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just tried it

crystal spruce
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Yeah it's low enough

nocturne tapir
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yeah 12-ish is what i take usually, rarely any problem

crystal spruce
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I always planet jump at the end of E3M2

nocturne tapir
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i approve of that :v

crystal spruce
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And that secret in E7M1

night ginkgo
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Same

nocturne tapir
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rocket jumping in most other games hurts

night ginkgo
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Yeah try it in doom 1

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You might get that cool death scream

crystal spruce
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I love how you can run in front of your rocket and die

night ginkgo
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That was a bonus in rott. 'ground zero'

steady bough
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I'm really gonna have to pick up rott13 after I finish AE. The soundtrack in it is just too good

crystal spruce
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Soundtrack is great, gameplay is uh ...

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Rough, I guess you could say

steady bough
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Eh, if I find it on discount then it's whatever. Steam sale is coming up so maybe it'll go on the cheap

crystal spruce
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I had fun with it, just for how absurd and retro it is

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It just needed more polish

steady bough
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The trailer slaps with the Fastway remix kicking in right as the napalm launcher shot lands. I appreciate a good trailer

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But off topic from AE. I surprisingly havnt seen amything from E6 and Ive only seen E7 from the preview trailer, so I'm excited to see what crazy psychedelic bullshit is coming up after I get off work.

crystal spruce
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How do I get the AEGREEN Steam emoticon?

night ginkgo
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Trading cards

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Or buy it

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Not a fan tbh

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But that's how it works

queen leaf
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Should just sell my TF2 inventory for them all

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Unless I can grab a gud gam

night ginkgo
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Ye

queen leaf
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Should just be enough for cards

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Don't have much "valuable" stuff

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Never cared for making my medic look like a condum (yes you can.)

night ginkgo
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Lmao what

queen leaf
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With two particular cosmetics you can...

nocturne tapir
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but okay, you get a pass because making an entire world for exploration takes a goddamn while :V

old kelp
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@nocturne tapir wait what?

nocturne tapir
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it's basically atop one of the outer walls in the first level of forges

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invisible wall blocks me from going there '<'

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well, proceeding any further

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can just barely stand on the edge of it

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mostly i just think it looks really cool and begs me to explore the area but invisible walls

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to be fair, i am an absolute sucker for misty gloomy areas like this

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and the lightning that flashes up behind the spooky background mountains is just MMM

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so good

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i can almost forgive the enemies for being a pain in the arse due to how cool the area is :V

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also i kinda want to draw a dumb fan thing of that moon pill reflection bug i found

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the idea of the moon guardian throwing giant moon pills is just too amusing

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all these rollers in crucible of pain would make DIO proud

steady bough
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Lmao

vivid flame
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LOL Xd

elfin flame
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any advice on dealing with the solegionaires?

steady bough
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In E4? Idk the names of enemies

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Liberal application of celestial bodies to the problem normally does the trick for me

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Or a soul powered Aethernum shot. That blackhole effect is chef kiss

kind nimbus
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Congrats on the launch, the final level was pretty rad, great game! @hearty maple

nocturne tapir
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wait hold up, is the souled staff supposed to not work in water?

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the shots didn't move

hearty maple
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@kind nimbus I reckon that credit oughtta go to @night ginkgo and @cinder mist, they did the bulk of development ;) I just spent a long time breaking the game as much as possible so they could fix it.

kind nimbus
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@cinder mist @night ginkgo Then i shall also congratulate these fellows!

hearty maple
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I'm super glad you enjoyed it :D

kind nimbus
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👌

bright mountain
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man...i love how trippy most of the levels are

crystal spruce
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Since AMID is finished, I should really give the game a proper chance now. Been holding off playing it because it was in Early Access.

bright mountain
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i missed the days of FPS games having abstract level design

crystal spruce
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I'm just not sure...when...I should play it. There's more than 2000 games in my Steam Backlog...

bright mountain
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ah....choice paralysis

crystal spruce
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And when I do get around to playing it, I'll likely be making a 4k60 any% video playthrough without commentary.

bright mountain
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2000 games? jesus....and I thought me having 400 was excessive

proud gull
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I recommend doing Amid Evil like I did

bright mountain
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of course I have about 400+ on GOG as well but most of those are double dips/gog connects

proud gull
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Using it as a burnout preventer for DUSK

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and vice versa

vestal palm
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DraQu has just started streaming the game for anyone interested

crystal spruce
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I liked classic Doom, Hexen, as well as Heretic AMID is actually right up my alley.

proud gull
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Amid is fantastic

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you won't be disappointed when you actually play it

bright mountain
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i'm not a big fan of the whole magic weapons thing but AMID's weapons are awesome

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can't go wrong with a planet launcher

crystal spruce
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Well, I don't mind the whole magic thing, just makes you use different weapons a lot more often. Also lol @ planet launcher.

nocturne tapir
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roffle, nailed the final blow on the forge boss with Earth

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:V

bright mountain
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uh..you just blew up the earth

crystal spruce
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I guess some people much prefer finding ammo pickups scattered around the level, but oh well?

bright mountain
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well, it's more like

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guns are more satisfying to use than some magic staves and melee weapons for me

nocturne tapir
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to me it really depends on how juicy the magic effects are

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as you say though, AE's weapons are great

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Whisper's Edge is probably what i use the least because it doesn't feel very impactful, but to be fair, it's a sword beam

bright mountain
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yeah, i vastly prefer the Star of Torment

nocturne tapir
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yeah that thing is a work of art and it turns enemies into works of art

bright mountain
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probably the closest thing to a shotgun

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and yeah it pinning enemies to the wall is great

nocturne tapir
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mildly inconvenient that it carries their souls so far away though :v

bright mountain
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i feel like the Celestial Claw is lacking in splash damage though

nocturne tapir
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certainly not a huge radius, though at least it deals very good direct damage

bright mountain
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like I have to hit the enemies with a direct shot to do any damage

nocturne tapir
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yeah basically

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i feel that way too

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some enemies are noticeably weak to it though

bright mountain
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at least soul mode does make it more like a regular rpg

nocturne tapir
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i'm tempted to call it a star-PG

bright mountain
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i like how the aetherium is literally just like Doom's BFG

nocturne tapir
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well, it has similarities, but there are some fairly key differences

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i.e. the thousands of tracers get shot out from the projectile, not yourself

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which is also fucking weird on Doom's side but hey :V

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owait you mean Doom 2016?

sullen stratus
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Talked mad shit about amid evil but now that I actually played it it's fuckin sick im sorry

vestal palm
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The aeternum is very different from the bfg because a. the projectile doesn't do any damage b. there are only 10 lightnings that come out of the projectile

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The only similarity is the fact that they are both meant to clean rooms or do massive damage to single targets (bosses in ae)

vivid flame
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@kind nimbus im not a dev, sorry, the name it's just for my hype, the other dev it's @hearty maple

kind nimbus
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whoopise

sullen stratus
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Is there a way to turn off the headbob when you jump

nocturne tapir
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scrolling back through things, i'm almost proud to have been the first one to notice the moon pills

vivid flame
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it's will be a fun meeme

azure trail
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Lmao

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"Degresslessness? This is isnt doom...."

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I love the sound effect when you pull out the sword

static socket
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Shwiiing

azure trail
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Can someone help me

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wheres the gold key in bastion of the blue moon

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cause im just running around in circles rn

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nvm my dumbass found it

nocturne tapir
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i know this would normally go in the artists attic but i feel it is reasonably relevant to AE

spice moat
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*pill*

gentle zealot
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pillspillspillspillspills

nocturne tapir
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P I L L S

gentle zealot
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also posting related art in here is fine :p

nocturne tapir
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excellent

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you'll have to excuse the sketchiness, i'm a lazy shit even when i'm memeing :V

halcyon silo
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I bought the early access Amid Evil, is there a way to just buy soundtrack?

lethal elk
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The bandcamp

gentle zealot
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wow there's not an upgrade

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can buy from a distributor of your choice

halcyon silo
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Thanks! Downloading it now

crystal spruce
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did not realise the boss would die that fast using soul mode and spamming the mace

spice moat
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For some reason crystal stars are the torment of bosses

lethal elk
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I feel like the mace’s soul mode got nerfed

static socket
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Yea it's slower now innit?

crystal spruce
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Axe also got nerfed I think

nocturne tapir
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souled mace uses a bit less ammo now though, which is appreciated

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5 green per shot drains your pool in the blink of an eye lol

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especially considering how quickly it fired before

fair canopy
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should i buy this game first or dusk?

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i feel like this game has more action in it and i want that

glass glade
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depends on your past experiences, do you like strafe jumping/have you done it?

fair canopy
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yes

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very much strafe jump fun

glass glade
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well dusk has strafe jumping and amid evil doesn't, but amid evil has better more open levels

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I've played both a lot and I have trouble saying which is my favorite tbh

fair canopy
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i might get amid evil first

glass glade
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I suppose I'd just go for whichever aesthetic you like more

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dusk is a lot darker

fair canopy
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yeah

nocturne tapir
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A E S T H E T I C

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but yeah, both games are honestly great

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i couldn't pick a favourite either

fair canopy
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i thought dusk was released before tbh

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is this a rerelease or something

glass glade
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this is the full release, it was early access before

fair canopy
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o

glass glade
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i finally finished running e1m1 hard 100%... that was kinda miserable

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hopefully the time will be hard to beat though

dark granite
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Dusk fully released in December, yes

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its been out for about 6 months

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Amid Evil however fully launched yesterday

steady bough
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Between the two, do you like metal or prog rock more

dark granite
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if you have interest in both games, we offer a bundle that includes both at a discount too

steady bough
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Metal=dusk, prog rock= amid evil

static socket
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i cant get over that picture lol

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dusk dude fucking shoots the champion

steady bough
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tothetop the bundle is so well timed, Ive sold 3 buddies on it who are planning to coop dusk when it drops

fair canopy
#

i saw kryoz play dusk and it looked cool

#

i only have 20 bucks so i cant get the bundle

#

i'd get it if i had 7 extra dollars

dark granite
#

luckily, the bundle will still offer you a discount if you already own one of them

#

so you can go back for it later

fair canopy
#

how much of a discount

dark granite
#

10% off whichever game you dont own, so you can buy one now, and later youll be able to get the other for 10% off

#

thats independent of sales

#

right now both games are on sale as well

fair canopy
#

i wouldnt be able to afford it then

#

sale ends june 27th im not gonna be here after sunday

dark granite
#

the bundle int going anywhere

#

if you decide a year or two from now to get it

fair canopy
#

it will be 40 instead of 30

dark granite
#

youll still get that discount :)

fair canopy
#

true

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o shid ur a de

#

v

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lol

dark granite
#

yep i work for new blood

fair canopy
#

very good looking game btw

dark granite
#

they both are! i dont have a favorite

#

(i also work on all the games, i just have this discord role lol)

#

the REAL dusk dev man isnt online atm

fair canopy
#

u work on maximum action too?

dark granite
#

yep, every one we have

fair canopy
#

cool

dark granite
#

i do support dev and QA

steady bough
#

So y'all are being called the New Id by several review sites, must feel good to hear that

dark granite
#

its certainly surreal lmao

fair canopy
#

retro games>

steady bough
#

I mean, credit where credit's due

glass glade
#

Id certainly is no longer the new id lmao

fair canopy
#

id went too AAA for me

dark granite
#

current id is still fantastic, i think those articles just mean we make games like id's old games

#

which, is fair, because they were obviously a huge inspiration for our games

glass glade
#

Id is mostly good, I'm just bitter about quake champions >:(

dark granite
#

lol yeahhhhhhh, it didnt turn out as well as it could have

#

but hey, cant win em all

#

we're bound to put out some less than great games eventually too

glass glade
#

was 100% the publishers fault anyway :p

dark granite
#

well, i hope you guys stick around to see our upcoming games too 👀

#

and also glad to see you guys enjoying AE

#

the team worked very hard on it, so im glad it paid off

glass glade
#

do you guys plan on sticking to the shooter genre? if you're even allowed to answer that question

dark granite
#

i can tell you that we certainly have stuff youll find appealing if youre into the types of games we've been putting out

glass glade
#

<3

#

then yeah I'll definitely stick around, your current stuff is right up my alley

dark granite
#

youll probably be hearing more from us this year

sterile briar
#

when was this homing mechanic added to the axe

glass glade
#

you'll probably be seeing me for a while too, I'm not planning on stopping my speedrun shenanigans anytime soon

#

also axe op

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at least for speedrunning

#

find myself using it a lot

spice moat
#

I've been thinking about a boat propeller run

#

AEBABY and axe only

nocturne tapir
#

axe is legit good now yeah

#

the faster swings and vacuum effect really gave it the boost it needed

#

i actually use it to smite small mooks now

#

not that i need to conserve ammo any more than i do lol

spice moat
#

I do that sometimes too, ||but it might have made the Void harder than it's supposed for me.||

glass glade
nocturne tapir
#

i'm slightly mad that i won't have time to get to the void until next sunday because of vacation

#

the screenshots look like an acid trip on more acid

#

and i love that

#

but oh well, more anticipation for me :V

glass glade
#

3:30 in that speedrun was so frustrating to get right, those jumps have very little room for error. Killed a lot of great runs

fallow mortar
#

hey, i bought the AMID evil warrior edition on steam, where is the soundtrack for this game would be installed

real rose
#

Had the same issue, they're working on it.

fallow mortar
#

ohh 👍

frosty drift
#

yep, we're waiting on valve to fix things right now

#

should hopefully be resolved within the next few hours

plucky isle
#

even valve can't stand trashcan sounds

#

so they sabotaged it

steady bough
#

trashcan sounds give me life

dark granite
#

@fallow mortar would you mind checking the game directory for a DLC folder for me?

#

we havent actually confirmed 100% if people are actually missing it or not

sterile briar
#

are the bosses really supposed to be this easy

dark granite
#

should just be top level folder, called DLC

#

which boss did you fight

sterile briar
#

er

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the one that leaps into the air with the staf

#

f

steady bough
#

^Hasn't been to the Forge Master fight yet

sterile briar
#

using the weapon that throws crystals

#

that weapon is just insanely op against bosses

dark granite
#

yeah theyre of varying difficulty

fallow mortar
#

Nope, there's no DLC folder :/

steady bough
#

the star of torment shreds bosses in soul mode

sterile briar
#

yup

dark granite
#

ok thank you

#

we're currently working with valve to resolve the issue, thanks for your patience

misty owl
#

resoooooooolve

dark granite
#

hopefully will be solved within the next few hours

nocturne tapir
#

if bosses are too easy, just go Warrior Mode, you won't start out with soul mode ready then :v

#

it's an interesting challenge

sterile briar
#

gr

#

i thought /spoiler worked on images

#

im stuck

#

ok i found the way

#

but its really unintuitive

weary solar
#

congrats AE 😃

sterile briar
#

is journies a word?

copper tundra
#

*journeys

frosty drift
#

no lol

#

leon is just dumb

copper tundra
#

big dummy

sterile briar
#

game is unplayable now

#

put it back into early access

copper tundra
#

^^

rustic bloom
#

leon how could this happen

plucky isle
#

proctectors

static socket
#

You should've seen the codex during the ep7 beta

dark granite
#

journies is a word

#

its not the correct usage though

#

at least iirc

#

idk, we talked about it before release

#

that was one of the few things we DID catch, like ekscelle said

tardy cove
#

"Plural of Journy"

#

Which apparently is an old word for journey

spice moat
#

I was thinking about a condescending word for journalists

dark granite
#

well there we go

#

ye olde english

#

works for me

#

like Gantlet from doom

proud gull
#

amidst evil

topaz raven
#

suggestion: I would like a very hard mode with 30-40% more enemies would be nice. The game performns like a champ so I don't think it would be a problem technically, and some of the open areas of episode 2,3,4 feels like they would play better with more enemies

#

on my wishlist too, I would like some kind of special mode (mutator?) that would use all enemies from all episodes in all the maps, but that's more wishful thinking. I know it would be more complex, I imagine the spawns are done by hand and you would have to implement a new system for it

dark granite
#

did you try playing on Evil difficulty?

#

its a hidden difficulty so im just checking

#

it certainly doesnt have 40% extra enemies, but it is harder

#

as for fighting all enemies from all episodes, you can play the Horde mode, and those maps will spawn all enemy types

weary bison
#

@night ginkgo Was any of the look/vibe in E7 inspired by Ultima Underworld 2's Ethereal Void and Talorus areas, or all just yer own crzy imaginariums?

signal quartz
#

Woke up to see soundtrack dlc hasn't been released yet, sigh.

topaz raven
#

I know about Evil difficulty. It isn't about wanting a tougher experience only, it's about having a more engaging experience too

knotty imp
#

Evil Difficulty certainly has more dudes to shoot

weary bison
#

Spoilery question about ||Evil boss of E7M4 on Evil Difficulty - that bright red obliteration ray thing it does in its end form is absolutely lovely to look at - but is there anyway to reliably dodge it??||

safe fox
#

eyy, where i can find the music i got from the warrior edition?

steady bough
#

Last I heard there was a problem on valve's end concerning the ost download, but NB are working on it. @safe fox

dark granite
#

yep thats correct

#

basically we are waiting for valve to press a button

#

we had a miscommunication on the release and its pending their approval

#

you still own the ost, and will be able to download it as soon as they approve it

fair canopy
#

got the bundle

tropic epoch
#

should i buy the bundle lol

proud gull
#

From someone who owns both games

#

Yes

tropic epoch
#

too much free time and nothing to do

#

kk

light obsidian
#

yes

steady bough
glass glade
#

Any OBS homies able to help me out? I tried to record this game but it's not recording at a smooth 60fps, it keeps dropping much lower. My in-game fps is staying at a pretty consistent 100-120 but the video looks really laggy. I wasn't having this issue with dusk

tall temple
#

try NVENC

glass glade
#

uhhhhhh was dat

tall temple
#

but up the bitrate

#

NVENC is using your nvidia GPU encoder

#

essentially shadowplay but a lot more control

glass glade
#

oh like a different program than obs?

tall temple
#

no thats in OBS

glass glade
#

oh I'm a noob then

tall temple
#

sec ill show you

smoky cypress
#

@weary bison you have to bait it by strafing in a direction and then going in the opposite

tall temple
smoky cypress
#

Or at least that's how I dodged it

tall temple
#

ignore that bitrate. thats my twitch setup

fair canopy
#

does anyone else have a problem where the sound lags whenever you kill an enemy

#

i get solid 60+ and my sound lags but nothing else

glass glade
#

What bitrate would you recommend? Harddrive space is a bit of an issue so I don't want to go too high

tall temple
#

try 10k and see what that gets you. i wouldnt go higher than 20k

glass glade
#

so wait does the "streaming" bitrate still affect my recordings? I was under the impression that only the stuff in the "recording" section changed my recordings

tall temple
#

create a local recording profile and a streaming profile

glass glade
#

man I never realized how much of an obs noob I was

#

so the streaming settings do effect my recording output then?

tall temple
#

yes

#

what ever bitrate you set will be used in either stream or local

#

thats why its good to have multiple profiles

glass glade
#

well i use obs studio for recording and streamlabs for streaming so I guess I've kinda had profiles in that way

#

I just didn't realize the bitrate setting did anything to recordings

tall temple
#

if you want a easier alternative, you can use shadowplay. that comes with geforce experience

glass glade
#

I don't see the quality option for my encoder preset

#

just fast and slow

#

or does that setting not matter

tall temple
#

fast is fine

glass glade
#

I should untick "enforce streaming service bitrate limits" yeah? It's trying to limit me to 6k

tall temple
#

is it still linked to a streaming service like twitch?

#

obs knows upload caps for those services

glass glade
#

yeah it is

tall temple
weary bison
#

@smoky cypress Have got a horrible feeling I had found this so difficult because I had accidentally button-mashed Caps Lock off....oh well, beat it now.

static socket
#

@steady bough nice to know im not the only one terrible at secret hunting

steady bough
#

it's so hard in these maps

#

forges is the wall for me

static socket
#

youre absolutely right man

#

ep6 is the worst for me

#

im just terrible in general lol, i tried to find the 4 runes in arcane dimensions and almost had a mental breakdown

#

i ended up finding them with the help of some walkthroughs though 😃 i probably wouldn't even know where the evil difficulty is if it wasn't shown off in a really early AE press video

glass glade
static socket
#

oof yeah theres some pretty obvious stutr there bud

random needle
#

Got a question in ae-spoilers that I'd like to have answered. If you want, I can repost it here but with the spoiler tag. (with a mod's permission of course)

static socket
#

whats ur pc specs

glass glade
#

970 and i5 4670k with 8gb ram

static socket
#

@random needle its better to wait until leon gets online hes a sleepy boy

glass glade
#

but i have no in-game stutter, buttery smooth to play

#

just the recording looks bad

tall temple
#

thats weird

static socket
#

i have the same issue tbh, recording or streaming AE makes my pc just chug like a freight train up a mountain, but ingame its buttery smooth

glass glade
#

i meant even while recording it's smooth

#

it's just the output looks bad

static socket
#

but my specs are significantly worse than yours

#

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm

glass glade
#

you can see my fps in the upperleft of that video

tall temple
night ginkgo
#

I use OBS to record and it works fine

#

the latest version's default setting seem even faster+better quality than it used to be as well

glass glade
#

hmmm, is it possible my cpu isn't being properly utilized maybe? When not recording amid evil uses about 80% of my cpu, and when I turn recording on that doesn't change, it just stays around 80%. I'd expect it to go up a little

tall temple
#

if you're using NVENC, it wouldnt use the cpu more

glass glade
#

ah let me check my gpu then

#

though it seemed to have the same results on both encoders

tall temple
#

are you playing borderless?

glass glade
#

oh

#

apparently i was

#

i switched it to fullscreen ill see if that fixes it lol

#

wait wut. why does it keep setting itself to borderless

#

does alt-tabbing make it change to borderless?

#

every time i alt-tab it sets itself to windowed or borderless thonk

tall temple
#

yeah full screen smooths it out a lot

glass glade
#

it refuses to go fullscreen though :(

#

every time I apply the settings it either changes my resolution to 720p for no reason or just sets itself back to borderless

static socket
#

nice fancy desktop lain

tall temple
#

huh weird. try alt+enter to bring it back to full screen

#

its my shitty twitch overlay. gotta do dumb shit like that for ultrawide

static socket
#

oof i understand lol

#

i should get an ultrawide monitor

#

but im broke

glass glade
#

huh

#

maybe ill just use shadowplay lmao

#

i just tried it and it's buttery smooth

#

must be an obs issue

#

wait you guys probably can't see that

#

oh god that url is bigger than i thought

lilac copper
#

it works when you open in browser

lilac copper
#

nah

#

take the earlier link and put it through tinyurl or something lol

#

that one doesnt work I mean

glass glade
#

OH GOD the discord compression

#

the horror

lilac copper
#

yea looks dicey in thumbnail :D

#

looks fine in browser tho

glass glade
#

either way you get my point lmao, shadowplay isn't a choppy mess so I guess I'll use that from now on

#

bonus: don't have to edit it with premier

light obsidian
#

going in fr episodes 3-4. Axe

static socket
#

lucky you have the option for shadowplay

#

i havent had any luck with obs and AE

#

i should abandon the amd ship

glass glade
#

my playthrough has been a little weird, so far it's been about 2 hours on the first few episodes, then 7 hours on e1m1 lmao

#

dont abandon amd :( only reason i have a 970 is because it was my friends old card that he gave me

#

i dont like supporting companies that own 90% of a market

#

amd is worse tho

static socket
#

ive been wanting a 580x for a long time

#

but latey ive been like nah son. gimme that 1660

#

ill still get amd cpus though

#

intel got nothin on that ryzen boi

#

though am3+ is pretty terrible i really overspent on my am3+ mobo lol

finite shuttle
#

the fuck is with that Gamer Vision lmao

night ginkgo
#

lain also studies DNA in his spare time

tall temple
#

its my poor excuse of a stream overlay. because ultrawide

finite shuttle
#

oh

static socket
#

gamer vision lmao

lilac copper
#

"lets put on the gamer goggles" "oh shit"

unborn aspen
#

Lain "I can see my ears" Dunningschmooch

fair canopy
#

is this a steam problem?

#

my game says its running

#

but i dont even have it open

#

i have a screenshot but i cant send it, steam says im running dusk and amid evil at the same time lol

static socket
#

yeah steam can be pretty funny

#

just restart steam

fair canopy
#

i did lul

crystal shuttle
#

are there secret levels in this game?

fair canopy
#

still broke lol

glass glade
fair canopy
#

restarting steam works sometimes but when i quit the game using the actual quit button, it keeps the game running

#

i dont know if thats supposed to return you to menu but it just closes my client but keeps it running on steam

glass glade
#

is it running in task manager?

fair canopy
#

nope

#

steam just keeps running it

glass glade
#

definitely a steam issue then, I've had that before. Just happens sometimes

fair canopy
#

does the quit button when your ingame just close the client on purpose

#

or does it take you to the menu

glass glade
#

when I close the game with the quit button it says I'm no longer playing in steam, so I don't think it's a game issue

fair canopy
#

ok

#

yeah im just saying it i dont think its a dev issue either since the game isnt running lol

hardy mural
#

huehuehue

static socket
#

Lol

hardy mural
#

also the guy asking where to get it

signal quartz
#

Wait, Leon dude was broadcasting?

night ginkgo
#

I was

#

andrew is now

quasi pier
#

my journey trough replaying AE from the beginning continues

#

im at episode 5

#

i like it but i fully understand people who doesnt like this episode

signal quartz
#

😮

static socket
#

hey guys

#

i fucking LOVE the sound the whisper's edge makes when it deflects the sword dudes in ep1's attack

craggy cypress
#

There's a song in episode 5, I think its in level 2, reminds me of finding nemo for some reason

fresh plume
#

😐

craggy cypress
#

lel

#

Like the whale sequence from that movie specifically.

#

Also episode 3 is mostly better so thats nice.

#

I mean I would almost consider it on par with the other episodes.

static socket
#

Every episode is great

crystal shuttle
#

ahem ahem the forges *ahem ahem"

knotty imp
#

you know

#

I liked the Forges platforming elements

#

but the enemy set is

#

🔫

quasi pier
#

i dont have problems with spiky balls, hedgehog robots are worse

spice moat
#

By "hedgehog robots" you mean painmasters?

#

(kinky name btw)

quasi pier
#

monsters that shoot spikes

#

btw my main problem with ep5 that is a little too dark

stuck crescent
#

Only just started ep5, but the visuals are fucking gorgeous!

crystal shuttle
#

that is true it looks great

lime spindle
#

so i've just went to 100% e1m2 and i can't for the life of me find the last enemy

#

i've used no clip to see if he'd fell off the map

night ginkgo
#

it's a bug

#

we'll be fixing it for 1.1

#

sorry bout that

lime spindle
#

ah np

#

could i leave a save and then come back and kill him or will i have to replay the map?

night ginkgo
#

not sure, I have to figure out what the deal is

#

taking a break lmao

lime spindle
#

alright np and you deserve the break

night ginkgo
#

👍

crystal spruce
#

I swear in Tower of Light one enemy ALWAYS falls down to the bottom

#

If it's a green dude it's very funny seeing him try to jump back up

night ginkgo
#

I love that

#

he's like YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET and flies past

quasi pier
#

tower of light is propably my favourite level in the game👌

night ginkgo
#

lmao that's cool

#

I spent a looooooooooooooong time on that level

#

the inside got reworked a few times

knotty imp
#

is it normal for enemies to completely go braindead

#

if they go underwater?

night ginkgo
#

yep

knotty imp
#

rip

#

poor things

crystal spruce
#

I wanted to try messing around with different resolutions to get better footage for Youtube, but it doesn't seem to change anything

#

Do I need to restart the game or something?

night ginkgo
#

borderless won't change the res

#

it always locks to your monitor size

#

so you need to go fullscreen or windowed

#

I might make a tooltip bout this

crystal spruce
#

Aaaaaaaaaaah ok, thanks

#

Hope this makes the videos look better

night ginkgo
#

it used to be called 'native full win'

quasi pier
#

speaking of resolutions, scaling res over 100 % in future patches possible?

night ginkgo
#

looking into it

quasi pier
#

thanks, my main problem with AE is that graphics are kinda hard to read

#

maybe res scaling will fix this

crystal spruce
#

Wow it does look better in 1440p on Youtube

#

But my PC can't keep a stable 60 with that resolution

knotty imp
#

I miss my 1440p screen

#

Before it started looking like the matrix on it

signal quartz
#

Leon dude, my ratio of kills and discovered secrets in episode 7 have never reached 100% except e7m4...but after reaching the ending...this...

spice moat
#

I wonder which MainStreamers are the most likely to stream Amid Evil

queen leaf
#

meh

night ginkgo
#

Idk not many

quasi pier
#

@night ginkgo speaking of graphics is possible to add another antialiasing method?

#

FXAA dont really helps with jagged edges and temporal makes textures too blurry

devout olive
#

nvidia dlss

winged ibex
#

AE Raytraced would fix that maybe?

#

With raytracing you basically get AA for free.

quasi pier
#

DLSS is a RTS exclusive feature right?

devout olive
#

iirc they recently made it available on non-rtx cards

#

only 10 series and up though I think

quasi pier
#

i have GF 970 despair

devout olive
#

isn't there a way to force smaa in drivers

#

also failing that you can use DSR to just superscale the res which is usually better than AA anyway

quasi pier
#

i have DSR in global settings, not in AE settings

devout olive
#

I don't think I've ever used it

quasi pier
#

@devout olive thx man! it worked! i have sharper image after turning on DSR 👍

devout olive
#

Sunglaso 👍

topaz raven
#

final boss is killing me of his last stage :/

#

is there any trick? does he receives more damage depending of the weapon you use and the mana he absorbs or something like that?

devout olive
#

no tricks sadcowboy just keep trying you'll get it

topaz raven
#

OK done 😛

#

once I knew how he worked it was easier one the next tries

devout olive
#

Sunglaso 👌

left marlin
#

yeah 'mid evil is pretty good

devout olive
left marlin
#

have I just been trolled

rustic bloom
#

amid evil is a midevil game

crystal spruce
#

Amid evil is just Leons color theory project

tall temple
#

?

frosty drift
#

?

crystal spruce
#

AMID EVIL has really nice Steam Backgrounds

tall temple
#

ah yeah

crystal spruce
#

I got the Rare emoticon as well.

:AEChamp: I think it was.

Then I got the background with the axe, then on my third badge craft, I got the Champion vs Evil background.

frosty drift
#

👍

night ginkgo
#

Nice!

crystal spruce
#

I really love the Nebula Sky background.

left marlin
#

amid pee

oak thorn
left marlin
#

was I wrong to pick the astral expanse before all the other levels

oak thorn
#

nope

left marlin
#

k

solid ridge
#

Lol

frosty drift
#

economize

#

🤔

solid ridge
#

Portuguese

glass glade
#

lol when they said doom fan i wonder if they meant doom 2016

solid ridge
#

It's all caps, so probably

buoyant phoenix
#

That has nothing to do with it being 2016 though

left marlin
#

yeah

#

"quake 2 was the epitome of gaming"

night ginkgo
#

You can turn down the red effect

#

Plus doom has the same thing

left marlin
#

yeah

#

I wish there was an option to turn off the stylization

#

on your viewmodels

queen leaf
#

Man people not looking all the stuff you can tweak

#

And then complaining cause of ignorance

#

That

#

Bothers me

left marlin
frosty drift
#

it gives you life decisions

left marlin
#

I see

night ginkgo
#

There are no view models, they're sprites

left marlin
#

I realize

#

but they could have been

night ginkgo
#

You can turn on temporal aa to smooth out a bit

tardy cove
#

Another meme review/post, I see. Like the "colour theory" or "placeholder music" ones

craggy cypress
#

@static socket I mean episode 1 is aight...

#

And tbf i haven't played 7 yet

plucky isle
#

DO IT NOW

#

GIRLY MAN

#

UHAHAHA

craggy cypress
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I've got other stuff I need to do today first, and whilst I have played through 6 I need to beat it again as I started a new playthrough. But I'll need to build up the energy to do so because I gotta be honest I really dont want to

deep ivy
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E7 was really tiresome for me

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looks great but plays poorly

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still E1 is my fav

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it gives me the most hexen feels out of all 7

craggy cypress
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Oh....

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Yay

crystal spruce
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1, 4 and 6 are the triumvirate imo

deep ivy
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tru

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6 is my 2nd fav

crystal spruce
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Has anyone here made any AMID EVIL badges yet?

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The trading cards are out there, for those who don't know.

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Also, I wonder what the rare background is...

vestal palm
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Yeah, just did all of them. Backgrounds are sick btw.

crystal spruce
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Sweet!

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Did you get the rare background by any chance?

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So far I have the Level 3 Badge. No duplicates, but so far the only rare thing I got was the emoticon.

vestal palm
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Yes, i got the rare background

crystal spruce
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What does it look like?

vestal palm
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uhmm, i don't want to spoil

crystal spruce
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Oof

static socket
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The most amazing thing about amid evil is they managed to spell it right

plucky isle
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Hamid E. Val

wheat yarrow
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Nearby to Badness

spice moat
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A Medieval

meager forge
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a medieval game

spice moat
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Except for the Forges

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that's Steamed Punk

meager forge
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i guess

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they did have machines in the 1500s but not many

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like that one dude who invented the phrase kiss my ass

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who had a fucking iron gauntlet for a hand

static socket
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wait is that intentional

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amid evil

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a medieval

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i never connected it until just now

spice moat
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It's a quasi-anagram of medieval

static socket
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holy shit

crystal spruce
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Crafted my Level 4 AMID EVIL Badge.

More Nebula Sky.

frosty drift
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One step away from the axe

crystal spruce
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Lol, I have the two Nebula Sky backgrounds, then on the other two badge crafts I got the Axe and then the Champion vs Evil background

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No duplicate emoticons. Lol

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I am after the rare bg

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But eh, so far no luck

frosty drift
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There may be some on the market

crystal spruce
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All there is now so far are Normal or Foil bordered trading cards.

frosty drift
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Oof the foil badge

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For an indie game that’s been out for a few days.. you’ll be looking at some pretty steep prices if you’re going for foil

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Good luck with it 👍

crystal spruce
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Some of the foils are already up to $5.00 USD

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Wow

static socket
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ive never gotten a foil card 😦

glass glade
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i've gotten a foil card

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for a game that was removed from steam

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i couldn't trade it

frosty drift
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Your chances go up based on your steam level

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Same with getting booster packs

static socket
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ive been level 28 for 3 years

crystal spruce
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@glass glade

I got several foil cards before.

One from TF2 which was the Demoman. The rest came from cheap indie games.

frosty drift
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Every 10 levels improves your odds afaik

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There’s very little official info on this

crystal spruce
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I am level 40

quasi pier
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playing episode 6 righ now and its just 👌

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hexed passage with these wooden lines of paths is one of my favourites

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next is "the circle" with that watter bubbles 👍

solid ridge
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You can see the art for the cards and backgrounds in high res too

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Buuut there's still only one background in there for amid evil

fiery osprey
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The bubbles are a great mechanic

frosty drift
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I put the rare ae background up on my profile if you want to preview it

static socket
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what is it supposed to be its so dark

frosty drift
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Yep

crystal spruce
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So NB team, how's Amid Evil doing sales-wise?

tall temple
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like 2 people bought it

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pretty good

crystal spruce
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Good, good

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Glad to hear it

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Not much in the way of reviews on Youtube unfortunately

quasi pier
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NB hates money, why AE should sell?

crystal spruce
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So we can get the expansion pack: Curse of the Black Labyrinth™

quasi pier
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new levels for AE? DO want! Axe

frosty drift
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Nah

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H dlc coming early 2020

quasi pier
frosty drift
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Expect it around April 1st

crystal spruce
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Can I date the narrator?

frosty drift
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We’re all super thrilled

plucky isle
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Champion Levels for Amid Evil

quasi pier
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continuation of secret level story

crystal spruce
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Giant John seeks revenge for the death of his Wee brothers

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The Champion must team up with Dusk Dude to stop Giant John

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Make it happen NB

frosty drift
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Large Johnny

quasi pier
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<throwing money on the screen>

frosty drift
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No no

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Take that money to the bank, put it on your account and then waste.money

crystal spruce
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I don't believe in money, when can I buy Amid Evil with cryptocurrency

unborn aspen
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Gigantic Johnathan

glass glade
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bitconeeeeeeeeeect

frosty drift
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Rather chunky Jon

spice moat
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Iovannes Gigantis

lunar garden
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any tips on improving the atrocious mouse feeling in this game?

glass glade
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???

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what's your fps?

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mouse feels amazing to me and I'm incredibly picky when it comes to input

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yeah under "video" there's "set fov"

lunar garden
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fps is fine

glass glade
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yeah i feel ya lol

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i got used to the font but it's hard to read at first

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what's wrong with the mouse feel Steppin, you're the first I've heard complain about it so I don't know what's wrong

lunar garden
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i dunno its hard to explain