10 pm in poland and still no update 😦
#amid-evil-or-hunt-showdown
quasi pier
plucky isle
0:25 a.m in Moscow - still no update 😦
wooden aurora
I cant refund sadly
signal sinew
epta
plucky isle
:)))
gentle zealot
!lang
keen coralBOT
Please keep all discussions english only! Repeatedly speaking in foreign languages can get you muted.
quasi pier
i just want my axe start mode
gentle zealot
soon maybe
plucky isle
Deplete your mana bars at the very beginning of each level - you'll get it lol
quasi pier
oh pls
wooden aurora
that works
quasi pier
i want my legit axe start
gentle zealot
i know leon's got that on the table
plucky isle
Amid Updates okay.
wooden aurora
so its just intruder mode
signal sinew
just die in the beginning of every level lol
plucky isle
Aentruder
sand lintel
Or start every level with aeleon lol
cinder mist
axe start mode is coming very 
wooden aurora
very
plucky isle
VERY?
crystal spruce
mtNOOS
dire briar
LIVE LIV LIVE LVIE LVIEIEIJFIKJFE
proud topaz
666 MB? 
magic panther
changelog?
plucky isle
LIVE
opaque crater
jolly jasper
what was that update?
crystal spruce
you can read the changelog on the Steam-forums
plucky isle
Okay the Voltride electric beam is now purple
Going blue once it hits an enemy
is that intended?
night ginkgo
yes
plucky isle
Yeah that was in the previous one
opaque crater
it still needs to be said
night ginkgo
fx and sound was updated tho
so it stands out more
there's not much new stuff aside cheats
most stuff is just fixes
woeful saffron
Do you guys have a changelog out yet?
night ginkgo
steam forums
but
+Weapon switching should cycle properly.
+Weapon hit sound & fx improvements.
+Smooth camera movement on stairs.
+Trail for enemies falling into black holes.
+New animation for enemies falling into black holes.
+Warrior mode added in game options.
+Enemies no longer get lost.
+Fixed go to next episode after dying in gateway.
+Can't get stuck inside lifts.
+New Load screen tips.
+Cheat codex fixed.
+New cheat: AEXTREME - Actually makes weapons fire fast.
+AEROBICS changed to AELYMPICS.
+New cheat: AEBABY - Soul mode toggle (infinite duration).
+New cheat: AEMEMES - memes.
+Other misc bugfixes.
I know taht you are working hard just to finish the game but can we expect some mulitplayer Deathmatch ?
proud topaz
If I change the colour bar, nothing changes, but the game seems to move on the background. Anyone else tried it?
gilded bane
I think an achievement bugged out on me
plucky isle
Oh gosh
gilded bane
I got the Soul Sacrifice award in the next to last level in the first episode but not the cheevo
plucky isle
that ??? shit, man
gilded bane
episode 4, everything is blue
wooden aurora
looks like dusk ep3 but underwater
plucky isle
Well
Subnautica
It's all David's fault
😄
AEBABY + endless mode also
DESTROY. THEM. ALL.
pine olive
Ooh, new update? What's new?
plucky isle
Dave is pissed off lol
dire briar
dire briar
reeeee
lavish parrot
Warrior mode? What is it about ? 😃
plucky isle
Axestart
versed violet
latent pagoda
uuuuuhhhhh should I be laughing or what?
versed violet
Upside down is copywritten to stanger things
wooden aurora
idk it was pretty funny
tall temple
NOT JUST THEORY ANYMORE
wooden aurora
u sure
latent pagoda
whoa amid noir
lavish parrot
Cool ^^
versed violet
Colour hypothesis
tall temple
WE COLOUR SCIENCE NOW
versed violet
Colourlogy
tall temple
ship it
night ginkgo
colour practicality
plucky isle
Amid Colours
plucky isle
hey take it easy bud
versed violet
Finish AE get a degree in colours
wooden aurora
topaz stump
6⃣ 6⃣ 6⃣
proud topaz
gentle zealot
compression is hard
plucky isle
lol
lavish parrot
XD
plucky isle
btw is that soul "next-level transfer" issue fixed now?
night ginkgo
yep
plucky isle
oh thanks!
uneven summit
that was an issue?
tall tusk
Hey Leon, thanks for fixing the mana counter switching issue!
night ginkgo
yer welcome
plucky isle
But still no HUD scale option.. any chance of that in future updates?
night ginkgo
yeah I still have to find a good way to do that
crystal spruce
I'm glad you finished learning color theory, Leon. Now you can focus on more amazing things for the game.
Who was that Youtube commenter that said "learn color theory" anyway?
night ginkgo
it was a meme
night ginkgo
but we got a bad review saying the colour was the only reason they wouldn't play
proper oxide
one guy who worked on EYE doesnt like the colors
night ginkgo
which imo is just pure salt, but whatever there's the option
thorn geyser
Good point
plucky isle
Damn still can remember that PAX stuff with that cacoeyes in the Sacred Path
versed violet
Edge better still sound like a whisper cutting through enemies
north pulsar
Just got home in time for the announcement, woohoo
wooden aurora
latent pagoda
beautiful
plucky isle
Yeah the whisper's edge now feels REALLY good when unpowered
gentle zealot
just gonna say, ae1981 is good
cosmic sandal
i aint get the update yet
plucky isle
FUCK
latent pagoda
I can't even see what is going on?
plucky isle
Broken color theory
gentle zealot
yeah i was hitting a big golem with the axe and i could not tell if i was hitting 'em or not
gentle zealot
git gud
teal birch
genocider and collector are still broken
plucky isle
yeah
teal birch
😦
plucky isle
There should be an achivement called "Color theory". "Complete the game in b\w mode"
or...
in ae1981 mode lol
gentle zealot
ok my eyes are on fire now, i'm gonna stop doing that
plucky isle
😄
crystal spruce
But is it colorfully theoretical, or theoretically colorful?
plucky isle
Coloretical Theorful
tranquil stream
hahaha yesssss
finally playing AE for the first time now; sequence broke the 2nd level via planet-jump
[disclaimer: this is a great thing :]
tranquil stream
i was all "hmm, i wonder if i can -- OH I CAN, YESSS"
devout jackal
I love that feeling in any game. Really nice to feel like I have a lot of agency in my choices. AE is just that feeling constantly for me.
night ginkgo
yep you're allowed to do whatever you want
versed violet
Planet jumping brings me back to halo 2 banshee flips to get out of map
north pulsar
Don't do it, but the fact that it's there is marvelous
sand lintel
Planet jumping changes the game so much lol, it can make completing all 3 eps take less than 15 minutes on a good run
lavish parrot
AELYMPICS is Awesome ! 😁
cosmic sandal
aelympics?
night ginkgo
yeah new cheat
tranquil stream
whew! AE confirmed baller
2 of 3 episodes tonight; will do 3 tomorrow once i emerge from my dev cave
devout jackal
Awesome! Remember to let us know whatchu think.
night ginkgo
anyone try out the AEXTREME cheat
patent thicket
just did
PRETTY FAST
whatever happened to AELMAO? I want my HUD stealing aliens!
:p
night ginkgo
not happening lol, it was an idea
patent thicket
aw shucks
Hey I had that axe thing happen again, where it gets stuck on weapon scroll. Don't know if that was supposed to be fixed or not. And I had the kill count on a level go over the total. Lol and I also loaded a game on a cleared level and I was surrounded by enemies. When I reloaded the quicksave they were gone. :p
night ginkgo
axe got stuck
like in soul mode but you can't fire?
or can't change to another weapon
patent thicket
Oh no, I mean when scrolling through weapons it won't go to the next weapon.
night ginkgo
yeah there's a hotfix coming for that
patent thicket
ooo wee
Love the update btw. Weapons feel great.
But you kno I keep my colour slider 💯
pseudo moss
did all of the weapons get new sounds? i saw the lightning staff vid
pseudo moss
hell yeah! gonna check it out tonight 👍
lavish parrot
In the survival mode, using the codes.
Pieces remains and enemies remain locked in the doors.
The damage of mines + planets create an interesting jump gain.
Besides, the mines kill the other enemies, wanted?
If a scoring system and leadboard are put in place.
We should avoid being able to use cheating no ?
night ginkgo
oh yeah cheating will be removed
lavish parrot
Fortunately, it would have lost interest if not. ^^
I would like a special object, not to die in a level.
Then just serve as the element of a mine + an architecture to achieve a secret or a key. 🤔
I think that would be a good idea.
And to succeed just before the end of the item's time could be a good challenge.
solid ridge
I really love the game the level design is amazing, music is awesome too, but i find the brainless behavior of all enemies rushing into the player really disappointing :/
lavish parrot
I suppose the AI is relatively simplistic just like in the 1st quake..
For me it's more cheating that bothers, and certainly very fun to have a lot of codes. But I'm afraid it's harm the game. 😐
I think it should be essential to unlock the codes once you have finished the game completely. At least it will allow you to discover the game.
But it's probably already thought and think. I do not know!
night ginkgo
The later on enemies have more different ai
lavish parrot
Pallets work? I can not use them for the moment.
night ginkgo
yeah
LobiTek do you mean the cheat codes? they won't work if post processing is low
night ginkgo
yeah type AE1981
lavish parrot
I will try again ..
quasi pier
playing with warrior mode on!....COLOUR me impressed!
lavish parrot
Um, that's what I thought. It really does not work.
lavish parrot
Yeah IDDQD give message wrong game.
night ginkgo
does ae1989 work?
lavish parrot
But not the pallets.
lavish parrot
Yes this also works too.
night ginkgo
lmao I just checked and it only works with normal number keys
night ginkgo
should be fine
versed violet
Lol leon missing the numpad
lavish parrot
Verr num is activate. LOL
night ginkgo
hmm?
lavish parrot
I maybe have to use the top numbers. ;x
night ginkgo
it takes raw input so it sees numpad1 as literally that, whereas the 1 key is "1"
yep top numbers
night ginkgo
did I what
versed violet
Thats how i got to the blocked area
versed violet
Under the map
night ginkgo
dunno if it's in the build
versed violet
Im addicted to planet hopping now
versed violet
Any of the other colour ones work?
lavish parrot
Only pallets have a problem with me. ?
night ginkgo
must be something to do with numbers if aetheory works
if AESTHETIC works too, then it's just number keys
rare acorn
nice bloating it
night ginkgo
nah that's UE
rare acorn
night ginkgo
we can pak the game as individual files, but for some reason it makes the game really jittery
pseudo moss
i think almost every UE4 game i own has pretty large patch sizes
even most of the unity games i own
rare acorn
700mb patches is becoming the standard
night ginkgo
could be worse, 10gb doom16 patch that one time
pseudo moss
yeah lol
rare acorn
multiplayer patch EleGiggle
dunno why they do giant patches like that
literally replacing chunks of the game
lavish parrot
I hope I can admire the retro colors .
pseudo moss
probably because most games like that have a ton of files/assets in one "bundle", but the entire bundle has to be redownloaded for any change made to it
i know there are some that have proper patching despite having asset bundle files, but i'm sure it's more complicated to set up
night ginkgo
yeah it's exactly that
there were some old patching tools that used to do file compares and then patch the actual files with data
but it used to take ages
a download and replace is actually faster
lavish parrot
And we can not disable AETHERORY anymore.
night ginkgo
type aesthetic twice
solid ridge
in case of doom '16 iirc on the quake discord one of the QC devs told that they didn't use idtech for QC because of the game size, so it must relate to the engine
lavish parrot
On epic. If I put in graphics low, it gives me the message of the code no clip.
narrow breach
because of the use of megatextures in idtech
night ginkgo
Lobi, you might be accidently hitting other keys
there's a reasonable amount of time you have for codes
lavish parrot
I do not think so..
lavish parrot
Yes I know but it was to say that we could not deactivate AETHERORY.
night ginkgo
if you use AESTHETIC twice, it will deactivate theory as well
(it will override it)
lavish parrot
Yép
lavish parrot
Except that I can not use it. 😬
night ginkgo
yeah lol which is why I said use aesthetic for now
I will fix the aetheory cheat so it toggles
lavish parrot
Yes, it's better to be able to switch over by retyping the code. It's more logical (true or false).
dark tusk
lavish parrot
Well, I'll go to bed. He is 6am. 🙄
quasi pier
i fighted ep2 boss once again....i damaged 3\4 of his life with axe soul mode,he was stunlocked
plain grail
i just noticed what you guys did with the voltride, the way it's lame if it doesn't hit anything but goes full BZZZT when it connects
👌
🔱 🌩
best weapon
keen coralBOT
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cold ravine
I loved the update! The game just got even more awesome
night ginkgo
🤘
cold ravine
I looked up the expression "living up to the hype" in the dictionary and there was the amid evil cover
vestal palm
Nice aesthetics. Plus new patch is awesome, keep it up.
dark granite
nah its 23
crystal spruce
Amid Evil more like New Blood are amid the planet and commit the great evil of taking all our money
🔫
frosty drift
May I have some money please?
cosmic sandal
I agree with this guy ^
signal sinew
it is possible to make a new weapon
based on the Magic Hands
and give it in the later episodes
so you can balance them around that weapon
light marsh
vestal palm
make the aeternum be the magic hand weapon
only weapon that isn't a staff or an axe, so it only makes sense to make that the spell, but it's pretty unrealistic to ask for that since the weapons are done iirc.
merry flame
the player's hands don't ever show up swinging or using weapons; what if secretly your hands are just invisible 👀
lethal wind
QC will be f2p?
signal sinew
it will be dead
lethal wind
oh it already is
jade marsh
signal sinew
I feel bad for lawbreakers
It's not the best game ever
but it has some great concepts
and shooting feels great
unlike Overwatch
frosty drift
It's better than ow tbh
crystal spruce
lawbreakers is 👌
signal sinew
idk
signal sinew
it's so strange
crystal spruce
or f2p is theres no players then
crystal spruce
nearly 2 years after its release and i still dont understand how it won GOTY awards
wait shit were in ae?
tall temple
Cool AE discussion
slim mesa
i totally fucking agree
magic hands or spell books like in hexen would make this game legendary
quasi pier
yep,i also want this,such a cool feature
lethal wind
lawbreakers to me looks like a clusterfuck
quasi pier
today
slim mesa
what did they add
slim mesa
COOL
signal sinew
Whispers Edge now sounds badass
cursive kestrel
the new sounds are awesome
cursive kestrel
idk lol
quasi pier
interesting nickname you have
cursive kestrel
screenshot rip the pickup sprite or something
signal sinew
im dumb
cursive kestrel
and downscale
slim mesa
just beautiful
lethal wind
where do i find the secret difficulty
frosty drift
Wouldn't be much of a secret if I told you
signal sinew
it's near hard difficulty
lofty thistle
Oh yeah I fogot to revisit the wiki after I edited in that devs tweets widget thing
signal sinew
find it yourself
crystal spruce
Hello
What would Amid Evil weapons equal to Doom rooster of weapons? i only played Hexen/Heretic a little bit as a kid so don't know what would equal what weapon , im asking caus ei like to bind weapons to certain keys in these type of games
solid ridge
Just relate the numbers. 1 is melee, 2 pistol, 3 shotgun, etc
crystal spruce
Ah ok so follows the same basic rooster of weapons
solid ridge
Sort of
slim mesa
the axe is the chainsaw the staff is the pistol W.edge is the plasma gun i guess voltride is the chaingun claw is the rocket launcher the star of torment is the shotgun
Aeturnum is the motherfuking BFG
slim mesa
what else then
crystal spruce
🍿
slim mesa
yeah maybe
crystal spruce
Thanks tho i got some guidelines to follow i'll hafto experiment with the rest , i'm half way into Dusk and i saw this and had to get it also looks really fun
north pulsar
Both games are rad
quasi pier
mace is flak cannon
wheat yarrow
plucky isle
Is it me or does Res-Scaled image look better now?
north pulsar
And having played through 2 worlds so far
None of the maps or fights really stand out
plain grail
who talkin' bout whisper's edge = plasma? because no, that's the staff of the azure orb in soul mode
whisper's edge doesn't really have a proper conventional analogue
that's why i like the game, half the weapons are pretty unique in comparison to other FPS games out there
all other games need a voltride btw
even anime VNs
ESPECIALLY anime VNs
"onii-chan, my enemies are chain lightninging on their own"
BZZZT-chan best girl
lament tartan
Does anyone know (if it’s allowed to be disclosed) if AE is coded in UE4’s Blueprints?
lament tartan
Just having some trouble figuring out Blueprints for one of my classes, and if AE is done in Blueprints, that would keep me from losing morale about it, seeing that Blueprints can actually be mastered and used for good product
crystal spruce
I have barely scratched surface of AE. I love this game so much... Really just noticed that the weapon pickup is a maniacal laugh 😈 😈 such a fun touch... I am on my 3rd attempt at finding all secrets and still short a couple in e1m1-3 each level... There's just a ridiculous awesome feeling jumping sideways off one level to next in horde mode, flinging planets, switching to another weapon, dodging... All at once. Incredible game
Too bad it's cancelled
frosty drift
You've still got 4 more episodes to look forward to aswell hehe
That is, If they weren't canceled
signal sinew
they are gonna be paid DLC
heavy fog
they will come on a shovelware cd
plain grail
every new day is a new cancellation of AE
crystal spruce
RIPAE
lavish parrot
LOL, no use cheats party 😂
I know the strategy completely!
But the number of enemies from a moment really slowed down the game ..
And also correct the blocking of the enemies, otherwise I do not think to do so much.
lofty thistle
It's appropriate tho
north pulsar
It's beautiful
north pulsar
Logical Key Puzzles
narrow breach
north pulsar
The achievement for finishing a level with soulmode on is still broken
devout olive
it's not exactly high on the priority list
vestal palm
Thought you could easily take the king's throne.
wave 92, i didn't even know you could kill yourself with the black hole
another dumb death, another missed 100 wave run.
plucky isle
So why are you still here? You HAVE TO be stretched across time and space or.. hell knows:D
vestal palm
idk if i'll try it again, it's pretty tiring and pointless. Back now to the (perhaps as well pointless) doom mapping philosophies.
wheat yarrow
92, gawd damn. Nice
hidden dune
wait why did @ El Oshcuro @ me? I've been busy playing System Shock 2. Something about a wiki?
Wikis are for nerds and foot fetishists.
devout olive
I was also wondering why he @'d you
think he may have mistaken on your for someone else
vocal ingot
He might have meant @prisma galleon
prisma galleon
😡 😡 😡
hidden dune
lavish parrot
One word: UNREAL
knotty sorrel
is amid evil canceled?
plucky isle
not yet but SOON™
lofty thistle
What are you talking about, it is canceled
The dev was just nice enough to give us the source code
Silly boy
hidden dune
@Amid Evil Dev @El Oschuro enjoy your new AE wiki bg
also i just realized El Oshcuro's tag is 0451
lone hatch
Holy shit
sand lintel
4 shades of leon
plucky isle
lol
plucky isle
Lol the Voltride treats a dead dude's staff as an enemy and fires the blue beam:D
left owl
How many episodes are currently playable?
left owl
Awesome, imma buy it.
plucky isle
sharp pawn
64-bit OS requirement puts a twist in my panties but I'm sure it's a good game
plucky isle
every toaster has a 64-bit OS:)
honest dirge
it is
sharp pawn
I don't
Had to dig up some of these computer bits from dumpsters (not literally but y'know)
frosty drift
32bit is supported by basically no one these days
can't guarantee things will work right for ae/dusk either
narrow breach
didn't apple just drop 32bit applications from itunes entirely?
cursive kestrel
x86 has hard limits that cause problems for modern games
The 1.8gb memory usage limit being the bigger one
north pulsar
There's a couple of older games that suffered this
night ginkgo
I doubt ae would work on a 32-bit pc
merry flame
Shillboi is stuck in a perpetual endless time loop where Amid Evil constantly releases into Early Access
merry flame
I'm not bullying I'm giving a good lore eccentric reason for his lack of free will or sentience
.............that kind of sounds like bullying when i think about it
crystal spruce
push the button, Frank
devout olive
first time trying to play hordes mode semi properly. Was going really well right up until the end lol
devout olive
i ran into one of the fat dudes
night ginkgo
how unfortunate
devout olive
be me
walking backwards to escape fat orange dudes
suddenly stop
"huh must have run into a wall didn't think there was anything there"
turn around
"oh"
cosmic sandal
i got enough kills in endless and the announcer lady said "hey, take it easy, buddy"
crystal spruce
the green sword is suppose to be this games version of the Shotgun? for some reason it feel rather weak , usually the shotgun can one shot lesser enemies with one blast new to this type of game never really played that much Hexen/Heretic for refrence
lofty thistle
Wouldn't that be the mace?
crystal spruce
ohh ok that explains i haven't found the mace yet , also the Staff(Pistol) dopes it serve any purpose one you get the Trident
frosty drift
It does , the staff projectiles home in on enemies
Very nice to use on fast moving low health targets
crystal spruce
ok yeah makes sense sofar i'm having pretty fun with this game just a bit rusty
frosty drift
Glad you hear you're enjoying it 👍
sand lintel
i think the mace is more like the stake gun, it cann hit multiple targets but it's clearly not it's job as it won't do much if you aren't centering the mace on what you are killing, that's why some people still refer to the sword as the real shotgun in the game, because it can take out large amounts of enemies in a few swings
plain grail
they're not 1:1 analogues of anything, whisper's edge penetrates enemies on an edge hit, star of torment can never be effective on more than one enemy, and voltride's a potential room-clearer with a high-risk/high-reward asterisk
i hated the whisper's edge too at first then i learned how to use it and used that mostly until the voltride got updated and now priority #1 is have a deep well of blue mana so I can keep using the voltride
sand lintel
i touched the voltride once and that was it lol, it just doesnt feel like it fits any scenario better than another weapon
void pulsar
Really? Supposing you only have blue mana: putting aside how useful it is to clear a room with one chain-lightning Overkill, as long as you have decent aim I can't think of any combat scenario where the wand would be better than the Voltride. I pretty much view it as an upgrade the same way the chaingun replaced the pistol in Doom.
merry flame
doesn't the Staff of the Azure Orb spend less mana to kill a single enemy?
also I think it has a better Soul Mode for most bosses
plucky isle
They said the Azure Orb had the highest DPS when Soul-powered
vocal ingot
Keep in midn the voltride was buffed massively recently
with the chain lightning insta-gib
devout olive
it's soooooooooooooo good now
sand lintel
honestly in terms of room clearing i think the whispers edge is still far faster when used on soul mode despite the buff
night ginkgo
What if I told you there are guys that can reflect voltride back at you, in one episode
🤔
devout olive
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
night ginkgo
But they can't reflect chain lightning
devout olive
whisper's edge is great in endless for spamming down the hallway part
vocal ingot
Oh on soul mode yeah, voltride's there as your long range weapon more than room clearing
devout olive
which is why it's so good on endless
vocal ingot
the buff was needed in soul mode, honestly
devout olive
great for keeping dudes off of your ass
I always run out of blue mana though
just have to leave one dude alive to farm mana back
versed violet
Always stocked on blues
night ginkgo
Lmao more to come
plucky isle
versed violet
Those enemies use a weapon called the yelling center
proper oxide
leon spoiled the end of the game already
night ginkgo
There's Larry, the demon that steals your wallet
versed violet
Fuck off larry
devout olive
YOU'RE GIVING ME SHADOW WARRIOR 2 FLASHBACKS
proper oxide
at the end of the game ae dude jumps out of your computer and says "fuck"
versed violet
I have no money
plucky isle
Steals my wallet? Is there a Police Gun against him? 🤔
proper oxide
ae but with a gun
versed violet
Its like skyrim with guns but without guns
devout olive
it's like dark souls
night ginkgo
It's like Skyrim except you can actually kill enemies with magic
devout olive
but faith builds dont suck
devout olive
tell that to aeman
proper oxide
i cant believe ae guy is dragonborn
versed violet
Chosen aended
proper oxide
undaed
versed violet
Draegonborn
jaunty wadi
not very alive
versed violet
Aelive
thorn geyser
Skyrim 2: Amid Evil
versed violet
Shilby thanks
devout olive
welcome
versed violet
Did i say gilby
devout olive
nah
lofty thistle
I can't believe it took me this long to realize the main character isn't wearing full-body armor
mfw lightsaber will never be in the game
plucky isle
So what's the correct name for 7th weapon? AetErnum or AetUrnum (as it is shown in game)?
sand lintel
as long as it isn't shown in multiple places as different names i think its safe to assume it's what it's called in the codex
im still unsure of the name of episode 2 lol considering it changes between level select and the plaque on the ground
buoyant phoenix
It's the one on the plaque.
plucky isle
Domain of the Sentinels yeah
sand lintel
that's what I put down on the speedrun.com page but still felt a little skeptical when doing it haha
crystal spruce
We should have a Crossbow in Amid Evil.
plucky isle
There is one in DUSK already:)
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tawny orchid
thanks shillboi
plucky isle
frosty drift
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slim sapphire
always glad to support solid indie devs! thanks for keeping the spirit of doom and its ilk alive in the 2000s!
slim sapphire
alright so
game is fun, looks very nice, I like how shiny and detailed it all is while still looking a bit pixely
one issue, I feel the enemy variety in the first area gets dumped on you way too fast, like, you'll see every enemy in the first level
Ive yet to play the second level
or area rather
vestal palm
It just gets better and more grand
slim sapphire
so Ive no idea if theres new enemies there
vestal palm
proper oxide
i mean
imagine how boring that first level would be if you didnt have all those enemies
slim sapphire
I mean true
I get it, its just Im a lil worried that those enemies are all I'll see in the second area
cursive kestrel
each episode has an entirely new set of enemies
proper oxide
each episode has its own variety of enemies btw
cursive kestrel
get ninja'd bitch
vestal palm
Yep, new textures and there is new weaponry to check out as well!
proper oxide
so dont worry about seeing the same dudes the entire game
slim sapphire
Also the celestial claw is so cool. I love it.
north pulsar
In terms of maps, Episode 3 is the best. In terms of enemies, it feels the most boring
vestal palm
Yes, map design is spectacular, lots of sloped surfaces, complex geo and a nice direction overall. However, enemy placement is pretty bare bones. e3m3 is the worst example of this happening, on the way to the top of the temple.
north pulsar
The ghost are ok, kind of bland but they do stuff and it's hard to tell how many there are in a group so that works as something to keep in mind. The stone heads are also alright as an enemy, again nothing spectacular but they work.
But the golems? They're boring. Visually, their death animations are neat but otherwise they look dull. This is compounded by their attack, which is an easy to avoid rock. It feels like the best that can be done to make them a threat is to spawn them around you on tight corridors/walkways. They're just tough enough to be annoying to put down that filling a room with them will be tedious to work through.
And that being the enemy that gets a bigger version that doesn't really do anything different other than have an exploding rock and a bigger HP pool
vestal palm
FYI enemies have weaknesses, ghosts die in 1 hit by the axe, golems faster with the rl but i don't know about the stone faces
north pulsar
While true, the golems are still boring
vestal palm
Already suggested at the steam forums to spice up the enemy placements. When you don't have enough resources to work with, try to make the best use out of them, people say. That's what needs to happen here as well.
Like I already said, it's pretty "bland". Mostly one enemy type rushing you, instead of 2 or 3. Level architecture needs to be used more to create an interesting encounter etc. Good thing is that they are already working on improving everything said so we're good.
sand lintel
it's not really weaknesses as it's just how the hp numbers and damage numbers line up, axe has enough damage to 1 hit literally every low tier enemy in the game, meanwhile almost all of them survive at least a slash from the whisper's edge
finite shuttle
Only thing missing in this game for me is some sweet emperor palpatine lightning gauntlets
plucky isle
Heretic is at your service 😃
slim sapphire
so the bfg equivalent is fucking insane
frosty drift
try using it in soul mode
plucky isle
It's good, but in fact it is my least fav weapon
does not have that FEELING of a good weapon
sand lintel
gotta say that that was another one of those weapons that i fired once and forgot about for the rest of the game
plucky isle
Well it IS useful, but you cannot have enough fun with it
Like with the Edge or anything
woeful saffron
We should do a poll before Pax East to guess what the next one of the 3 episodes to come out will be
plucky isle
Solar Solstice I guess
woeful saffron
That's what I thought too! Since they have a couple enemies already made in Hordes of Evil clearly from Solar Solstice
plucky isle
Yeah and a bit of it was shown at PAX 2017 so I guess it is completed enough for more prolonged presentation
And also it is a good way to keep the other episodes unspoiled 'cause we know now about the enemies in Solar Solstice, so nothing can be spoiled
woeful saffron
Yes, cause I read somewhere that Pax East they'll be unveiling the next episode
vestal palm
episode 4 iirc
woeful saffron
Although speaking of enemies, there was a twitter post from Indefatigable and Dave showing a multitude of enemies off
vestal palm
leon said it i think
plucky isle
For now I can only remember the dudes that are almost similar to the ones from Astral Equinox
woeful saffron
I remember the one robed guy who was in Arcane Expanse in the 2017 trailer
vestal palm
Orange dudes, we also got a preview of them in the hordes of evil
vestal palm
They remind hexen 2 hub 3
plucky isle
yeah and they have maulotaur attack
woeful saffron
Yess
vestal palm
It's actually the exact same attack of the mummies
plucky isle
yeah
vestal palm
from hub 3
woeful saffron
Yeah practically
plucky isle
said this cause maulotaur was the first whom I compared that dude with 😄
btw Solar Solstice is not actually ep 4
it can be either 3 or 4 or 5 or 6
woeful saffron
Wait how can it be 3?
Thought we had the 3 and after the second one the rest opened up, leaving us to only the third one available.
plucky isle
it can, cause the first two ones follow the order, after that you can choose between Sacred Path (ep3), Solar Solstice, The Forges and Arcane Expanse
so there is no strict order
vestal palm
no it's e4 look http://cdn.akamai.steamstatic.com/steamcommunity/public/images/clans/31019141/d208c50bea204519c69b501d86928f9310fd8430.jpg plus iirc the devs confirmed it (of course could be wrong about that).
woeful saffron
So yeah 3 are already out, then to get 7 an extra 4, thus ^
vestal palm
It's the first one they draw your attention at, has to be the next one, otherwise it wouldn't be first. Could be proven wrong though.
plucky isle
I think there is no order even on that pic. Just a sneak-peak of the rest 4 worlds - they could have been placed there in any other way sooo....
woeful saffron
Oh I get what you mean @plucky isle I was just stating what episodes we have currently, so with just one in the hub, we would end up with the 4th one, but I understand when all are out we have that choice for the third
woeful saffron
Still would love a poll to see what people would think for the next episode to be revealed at Pax East
plucky isle
I bet it will be the Solar World:)))
woeful saffron
I'm either on Solar Solstice, or Arcane Expanse
plucky isle
I wonder what the Forges will bring us... 🤔
woeful saffron
Yeah I'm pretty fascinated in The Forges more than anything, since it seems pretty open handed for guestimating anything
vestal palm
Forge is gonna be dm4 or e3 quake
plucky isle
lol
woeful saffron
I was thinking E3 quake when I first saw it
vestal palm
Me too, then i thought that dm4 fits in that category so why not
Arcane expanse is what level Arcane Dimensions was missing, the secret level didn't count
woeful saffron
Well the large level with the library elevator thing at the end was probably the closest
Where you start in the grave
vestal palm
Necromancer's keep
woeful saffron
Yes! That one
vestal palm
The closest is the secret level that nobody wanted underground which required all 4 runes from secrets in the rest of the levels.
woeful saffron
Yeah, that level had the separated islands bout it though
vestal palm
I just spoiled the big thing in ad kill me
woeful saffron
Hahah swell job
vestal palm
It wasn't though as big as the other ones and could be much better
woeful saffron
It was pretty plain
vestal palm
That's why I'm waiting for arcane expanse, because it's what I wanted from ad that I didn't get.
woeful saffron
Mhm any ideas what the boss of that level would be?
vestal palm
A Heresiarch?
woeful saffron
Just some dude in a robe
vestal palm
I don't know how less hexen you can get in a theme like that
plucky isle
btw there was a dude who had found the way to slip through EP7 gate and see the portal
iirc
woeful saffron
I managed to, wasn't the first
plucky isle
ooh
vestal palm
Patched?
woeful saffron
I believe so, since the audio update came out
plucky isle
Fuck 😄
woeful saffron
Yeah I took a few screenshots of it
vestal palm
what did you see? The screenshot above?
woeful saffron
Well when you go through it it just takes you to the main menu
vestal palm
Yea, did it have the staircase?
dire briar
there's no order to the episodes after 1 and 2
woeful saffron
Thanks Dave! and it never stated any name, you had to glitch out of the map and fly around to it. Just shows a purple portal, no image in it.
vestal palm
thanks for the clarification!
vestal palm
There is a logical progression to what Dave is saying, e1 teaches you the basics and e2 makes you learn the new weapons. That feels kind of minor though doesn't it?
e2 could introduce teleporters or some other mechanic idk
woeful saffron
and it introduces some mean secrets too hahah
vestal palm
e2m2
plucky isle
fuck, that Aete(u)rnum secret is SICK
vestal palm
btw something i noticed i need to mention in the steam forums sometime, i didn't find a whisper's edge today on e1m3 on my rerun of the game when playing axe start. That's very problematic for people who don't know that there is a star of torment hidden in the map.
woeful saffron
So there is no easy green weapon if you start the map with the axe
dire briar
nobody said axe start was easy
vestal palm
The problem is that there is green mana given to the players which will be useless if they don't know such an obscure secret like that
dire briar
its called WARRIOR MODE for a reason
the game wasnt built around Warrior mode like Dusk was
its meant to keep the weapons
warrior mode is for an extra challenge
but we can look at weapon placements
we've already added some
woeful saffron
In a next update?
plucky isle
Will there be a feauture that takes away all your weapons after completing an episode?
woeful saffron
I mean, you can use the cheat aeleon to level select, and begin with just an axe
vestal palm
thanks for the blazing fast replies, not having a green mana weapon doesn't make the game harder, if you use ammo correctly everything will be fine. It just makes the green mana placements questionable.
vestal palm
Is it really the unnamed portal?
vestal palm
Ahh, ok
brazen forge
If I saw a Dave portal, I`d run
brazen forge
Big John dimension
misty owl
Is there another dimension that is also meme?
plucky isle
That is a draft for a horror film plot, I'll call it "The Oshijohnum".
So: a dude @ Dave, after that he launches AE, and each portal has that face inside.
versed violet
Praise
slim sapphire
I have a random headcanon that the protagonist of AMID EVIL is a complete brute that doesn’t even care about being a hero, he just loves beating the shit out of everyone
And look it’s a shotgun blast that pins enemies to walls what do you want from me
merry flame
I think my favorite weapon is probably the Whisper's Edge even though that isn't saying much since all the weapons are pretty damn awesome in their own ways
slim sapphire
are the textures for the celestial claw planets random-genned or are they preset
devout olive
preset
versed violet
Just a whole lot of em
cursive kestrel
Considering that they're pre-rendered sprites
night ginkgo
wew tried proc-gen but they weren't as good looking
cursive kestrel
randomly generated planet textures would be nigh impossible
at runtime, at least
cursive kestrel
well you'd have to re-render all the frames
night ginkgo
they're not frame based, they're panning but the normals distort them
cursive kestrel
unless they're layered or something?
night ginkgo
simon is a fuggin wizard at that stuff
versed violet
Oh so its just a scrolling texture
night ginkgo
indeed
versed violet
Fuckin hell
versed violet
AE the tech marvel
slim sapphire
wait are there three episodes out rn
misty owl
Yes
night ginkgo
indeed
devout olive
correct
versed violet
Quite so
left owl
Indubitably
slim sapphire
...where's the third one I cant find it
plucky isle
@slim sapphire Episode?
slim sapphire
yep
vestal palm
go back to the start of the corridor, you will see that the bars that were raised are now lowered down, then turn into the room you will see and that's the third episode
plucky isle
"I wanted to put a secret here but it was too obvious". Instead, I placed ep3 portal in such a way so no one could ever find it 😄
(C) Leon
nocturne tapir
so hello this game is very nice and i like it a lot so far, it's basically Quexen but MODERN and that is absolutely not a bad thing
i found myself wondering though, does Evil difficulty work right?
it didn't seem to make everything a living hell as i thought it would, and i'm not trying to say that i'm good at this game because i'm not
(also i love those little different death screens)
nocturne tapir
game might have bugged out for me because it didn't feel different from normal, like, at all
gonna have to try again tomorrow
in any case i fuckin love the staff of torment and how it flings enemies ridiculously far away on death
it just oozes "why the fuck not"
quasi pier
maybe you git gut and Evil diff is just too easy for you now
plain grail
😟
worries
but hey i conquered evil difficulty
without too many deaths
and i ain't that gud
now mostly my deaths are centered around trying to overkill with the voltride
quasi pier
after some Quake1 maps playing Dusk and AE is like playing full casual game for all family
plain grail
which is the #1 priority in "amid voltride"
the exciting new game
oh shit that's right i downloaded arcane dimensions
i should play that shit
quasi pier
gogogo! its legendary
plain grail
what's the best sourceport
i'm familiar with darkplaces but it doesn't look like it's been updated in a long time
patent thicket
Quakespasm
nocturne tapir
voltride overkill best overkill
chain exploding a bunch of weak mooks is hilarious :v
plucky isle
@plain grail Mark V for Quake, this one is for preserving classic look of the game
patent thicket
@plain grail Still Quakespasm. Also Arcane Dimensions was tested on Quakespasm.
plain grail
damn it i lost my quake wads
patent thicket
You can make Quakespasm look great too. Unfiltered textures and all that. SQUARE particles baby.
By great I mean classic. Not Darkplaces vomit.
plain grail
got quakespasm
digging through my files for quake itself now
been a hwile
darkplaces looked so fucking ugly
HD retextures are pointless if htey don't match the spirit of the original design
ruined the sounds too
no CLANG from the grenades
plucky isle
darkplaces, Jdoom etc always sucked
plain grail
everyone's got an opinion on emulators/ports
quakespasm's got the most votes here, i'll consider it to be the gzdoom equivalent then
it gets the job done
quasi pier
Fourteen wants to play custom maps so Quakespasm as limit removing port is the best for him
dark granite
Disagree
quasi pier
- Added workaround against GL texture flicker (z fighting), controlled by new cvar 'gl_zfix'
patent thicket
yep
patent thicket
I like playing Quake at 1440p 144 fps, but otherwise totally classic look. Mouse movement feels best in Quakespasm too.
quasi pier
ideal port for me also
dark granite
It's a solid like 4th place for sure
plain grail
okay quakespasm's giving me problems
i set it to my desktop resolution and my monitor rejects it
gentle zealot
that's some gud AE talk
dark granite
:^)
plain grail
nofunallowed.jpg
plucky isle
what if we replace every "Quake" with "Amid Evil" here... 🤔
"Best source port for Amid Evil"
gentle zealot
then it would make absolutely no sense because there is not a "source port" for unreal engine 4
plucky isle
Fuck. 😦
nocturne tapir
better make a port to MS DOS then :V
night ginkgo
doom AE TC
nocturne tapir
not gonna lie i would actually play that
quasi pier
imo Hexen or Heretic TC is much better
nocturne tapir
eh, basically same engine, not a huge difference
night ginkgo
^
nocturne tapir
though that said, i don't think i'd end up preferring such a TC over the real deal :v
quasi pier
i mean using Heretic\Hexen assets is easier in the same game?
nocturne tapir
mayhaps, but i'm pretty sure you'd need to replace most assets anyways
i suppose the enemies are closer in function though
except the lost so- uh, flying stone heads :v
night ginkgo
tc= replace everything
doom engine runs hexen etc anyway
like the ROTT TC I made doesn't require a base game, only zdoom
quasi pier
agreed...but in partial total conversion things are different