clan-capital-strategy

[fierce rampart]

To copy

[tired marlin]

i think it too early to tell

[tribal oxide]

Screw this confusing update

With that being said I’m looking for someone to explain the raiding system preferably in my clan chat

[true seal]

Any capital hall 3 villages with all ruins built?

[sweet crane]

there is ch10

but not for you

[tardy rover]

we’re almost capital hall 3

we need 1 person to do the tutorial so they can get 3k abs like one raid battle if anyone is willing to help

[modest hinge]

I got a dm from someone in lost f2p

yesterday

they should have ch10 now

kekw

[sweet crane]

yeah. free wins for all the raids 🤦‍♂️

[molten maple]

How many raid medals do you get?

[unreal shard]

Might wanna rework that northern wall. Troops will destroy that first one and walk around that second one because there is an avalable grass tile next to it.

[unreal shard]

We will see in a few hours

[fading blade]

Basically
Attacks: (very similar to boom beach task force operations) you and ur clan attack bases, and destroying buildings gets you gold
Damage stays over attacks, spells last for the whole attack and the whole of the next attack, and spawn area grows when buildings in that area are destroyed

Defence: clans attack the layout of your capital that leader n cos designed, not sure exacly how they count yet but depending on how well u defended u get more gold

[keen timber]

I saw somewhere that the defence bonus is based on how many enemy troops your defences take down, unsure about its veracity but makes sense.

[fading blade]

I got 16 medals thru defence, assuming it killed 400, cuz we had (i think) 25 people attack

[molten maple]

How much raid medals yall got?

I got 538

[sturdy fog]

zamnn

I got 291

well only 30-35 people attacked cause new stuff and cwl

[steel hazel]

is there a way to check defenses afrer raid ended

[modest hinge]

Raid log

[steel veldt]

i got like 350 from around 40 people attacking

[acoustic osprey]

I know it’s not the complete base, just wanted to focus more on the actual base design

[haughty cave]

Tip, you need at least 3 walls in front of the bridge in the left top. They can now walk just next to it into on the bridge

[fading blade]

I got 310+ from about 25 attackers, most attacks used

[late yew]

is there a way to copy designs and share them?

i hate looking back and forth bewtween screenshots and my phone

[fiery nacelle]

Yeah.

Oh wait Clan Capital, I don't know about it.

Sorry ahaha

[late yew]

nah its good, just saw that theres no links at all yet in game to copy

looking for a CH-3 design

[modest hinge]

good for ch2, not very good for ch3

super wizards lock onto capital hall, guess what happens next

[steel hazel]

my raid log skips a few numbers which i assume r defenses is urs like this too

🤔🤔

[modest hinge]

We only took 1 def lmao

[steel hazel]

💀

bruh

but how much medal did u get for 1 def

[modest hinge]

27

kekw

It was a 17 attack raid

[steel hazel]

how

man my clan took around 14 defenses and we got only 25 medals from it 💀

coc broken fr

[modest hinge]

Lol

[tribal oxide]

I love the detail put into this answer but maybe you can come explain this to my clan mates 🙂

[modest hinge]

kekw

[vagrant kestrel]

Any bot that tracks capital gold of clanmates yet?

[fiery plank]

Idk how many defenses we had but we got over 300

[fierce rampart]

Got 440 raid medals. Wish there was a better breakdown

[broken hinge]

441 :')

[acoustic osprey]

Thanks, I made it myself

[warped hound]

How many defense medals did you all get

We got 23

[sacred zealot]

27 iirc

[jolly flax]

idk i think 25?

in total we got 252 raid medals

defense medals will probably go up as we progress our capitals since it takes more attacks to kill us

[warped hound]

yeah

true

[jolly flax]

how many raids your clan complete?

we beat 24 and were on the 25th, i think we had 37 people attack and just under 200 total attacks

about 194-197 somewhere in that range for attack count

[jolly flax]

@warped hound

[jolly flax]

yeah that will be awesome

[sacred zealot]

48

wait no

thats total

iirc just raids was like 35

[snow hatch]

Supercell should add a Mayor roll

A Co Leader can become the main person who controls a region

In the Clan Capital

[fading blade]

What do they not understand ;-;

[fading blade]

16 here, got like 314 in total

[jolly flax]

suggest that then

[jolly flax]

idk its pretty simple

[fierce rampart]

Good?

[ancient atlas]

Looks great 👍

[tribal oxide]

Um nothing, I just think it would be nice to have you around 🙂

[modest hinge]

Lol

[steel veldt]

looks good as long as you guys haven't unlocked spells yet. If you have, the dense layout would mean there's a lot of spell value. Other than that it looks good, but maybe you could also mess around with the Clan Houses for enemy troop pathing and put some of them closer to your defenses

[fierce rampart]

K ty

[sweet crane]

zoom in

[grave orchid]

Anyone got some cap hall 3 layout links?

[bold fog]

This how u direct clan upgrades

[stable hatch]

👌

[sweet crane]

they still donating the trees though 😂

[jolly flax]

i already tried, hes not leaving his clan lmao

[jolly flax]

dude does that look like a ch3? its not, they dont have spells

[stable hatch]

?

[jolly flax]

LMAO thats good

i think i might do that for mine

[jolly flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807402116884594710/973435233556922398/IMG_1729.png

heres mine

[tribal oxide]

Thanks man

[bold fog]

Nice, I see u r opposite of me. Save the trees! 👍

[zealous thorn]

if you chop the right tree it gives 500 gems to every clan member 😏

[vagrant kestrel]

Deforestation ftw

[fading blade]

Ok i guess...

[fading blade]

LOL

[fading blade]

Its a ch2, no way theres spells yet, once ch3 they will definitely have spells sooner or later

[fierce rampart]

you may check the massive defense medal rewards before spending a single minute into clan capital bb 🌚

current medal formulae is: the most destroyed troop spaces of your 'best' defense divided by 50 gives you the amount of medals

so in order to get a single medal your clan capital and districts need to destroy 50 troop spaces

source is iTzu, so blame him

[fading blade]

so im guessing 16x50 (800) army space is how much our best defense destroyed

wonder which did the best

maybe the hall artillery/halltillery/eagle hall

[steel veldt]

i know but i cant recognize the difference between a ch2 and 3 yet

[fading blade]

ch2: stone blocks at entrance
ch3: barb statues instead of blocks

[steel veldt]

thank you :]

[fading blade]

np :)

dunno bout ch4 cuz am still at ch2, more than 2/3 of the way to ch3

[broken hinge]

Op aggreged

[jolly flax]

and dont forget the wooden outlining around the roof

a nice deep brown

[tired marlin]

wrong channel, post in #old-lfc

[royal depot]

Thanks for the help

[acoustic flume]

Having a hard time coordinating what to upgrade in the capital.. clan mates are doing things like mines, etc before army camps :\

[vagrant kestrel]

Make arrows with walls , at least the people who arent sabotaging deliberately wont spend it on the wrong stuff

[acoustic flume]

lol not a bad idea 🙂

would be cool if only coleaders could "start" an upgrade and then everyone knows what to contribute to or somethin

or "approve" an upgrade

[cloud veldt]

Yup...

[acoustic flume]

trees too? 🙂

[cloud veldt]

Nop.

Not now. Need to upgrade buildings. But there are some members I clan who upgrade trees lol.

We have like 2 forest and 1 camp in CP

[cloud veldt]

There should be like lock and unlock system. So leaders and co leaders can unlock any upgrades. Etc...

[acoustic flume]

yeah tired of guys starting upgrades on mines when theres things like army camps to do

[cloud veldt]

Yup

[jolly flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807402116884594710/973435233556922398/IMG_1729.png

thats how, pro level tips right there

[acoustic flume]

ooh look at that

so the stuff you want upgraded is in a corner or somethin eh?

[jolly flax]

?

im confused

[acoustic flume]

lol me too maybe 😉

[jolly flax]

is that a question or statement? what are u trying to tell me

[acoustic flume]

I was thinking you were moving items you wanted upgraded into a corner of the map .. like "hey guys! do these first"

[jolly flax]

no lmao

u see in the middle?

[acoustic flume]

are you literally saying "chop trees!" 🙂 hah

[jolly flax]

it says CHOP TREES!

[acoustic flume]

lol gotcha

[jolly flax]

could not be more clear

every clan member will see that

[jolly flax]

they should add a new rank instead of just member, elder, coleader, now they should have district manager roles too

to control the flow of upgrades

[acoustic flume]

yup

[jolly flax]

also i made a new base in advance since soon we will be done with deforestation

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807402116884594710/973711070004908082/IMG_1735.png

[acoustic flume]

what order are you upgrading things?

its a bit confusing.. and the builder recommendations arent great lol

and the "chop trees" is just so you can move the trees and such around/out of way?

[jolly flax]

yeah lmao its super important to delete those trees

and other obstacles

so we can build good base layouts

those trees limit what we can do

[acoustic flume]

fair enough

you did that before all the other stuff like army camps/barracks/etc or doing those at same time?

or how are you prioritizing

[true seal]

Would you all say it’s fine to max offense, then upgrade whatever for defenses to get to the next capital hall? Since it seems defense doesn’t matter that much

Initially I was against my clan working on cheap mine upgrades, but now I’m wondering if that’s actually beneficial for hurrying to unlock new troops and levels

[sweet crane]

its probably not a bad idea to rush. everyone is doing it so you wont get too far behind

[true seal]

Yeah, and once you have all the districts unlocked I feel like you could easily go back to do other upgrades

[jolly flax]

doing them at the same time

[jolly flax]

could possibly have like dozens of upgrades going at once tho lmao

could get confusing

[true seal]

That’s true lmao

[jolly flax]

like for us rn at ch3 we got i think from 5-8 things going

[true seal]

Hopefully my other cos can keep things relatively organized

[jolly flax]

were focusing on trees tho as u can see above

[jolly flax]

^

[true seal]

Yeah, my clan just finished up the trees, they’re a pain

It’s not bad in other districts where they’re towards the side, but right in the middle sucks

[jolly flax]

we're almost done, our most recent ss i actually was working on the next thing for us to do, but only 2 forests left

[jolly flax]

^

[cloud veldt]

That'll be cool

[cloud veldt]

I think I found the best solution.

All members should contribute to a bank in the capital peek. And leaders or co leader will be using the contributions to upgrade things.

[jolly flax]

that would be awesome, but then to fit gameplay wouldn't they have to add in capital robbing?

like if u have storages in a base enemies attack.. its bound to be stolen

[cloud veldt]

First all buildings to unlock capital hall upgrade. And in any unlocked districts...

1. Army camp
2. Barracks (upgrade lvl2 if unlocked)
   3.Walls
3. Def

Lvl2 Def Upgrade. Next, Capital Hall. Repeat.

[cloud veldt]

No. This bank would not be in the base. But in the UI.

Just like how raid medals are stored.

[jolly flax]

ok

would it have a storage cap?

[cloud veldt]

Not bank, but say some kind of storage thing

[cloud veldt]

What's that?

[jolly flax]

at the same time tho, how it is now means only solid coordinated clans will do best which makes it so it takes skill

[cloud veldt]

Yeh, right too...

I guess we are coming with ideas in deaf ears.

Supercell has reddit for suggestions from players?

From there they took the idea of capital peek right?

[old wagon]

Any one got good base layout for barbarian camp lvl 2

[fierce rampart]

that's the basic concept of strategic rushing, def medals are neglegtable atm, unlock all new stuff, upgrade offense, upgrade the cheapest def to level the capital/district hall, i won't be very fast but more benefitial than maxing each and everything first

[idle dragon]

especially the walls, they take ages

don't do walls

[fading blade]

Best method/the method people are using is to unlock ruins, upgrade whats necessary for next ch level
Basically rushing, but ruins are more valuable than upgrades, more buildings for less

Theres this guide we are using

If u want it dm me ill send it to you

Isnt mine

By Tabellenblatt1, its a link to a google sheet, showing what to get to rush all districts

[fierce rampart]

you need to upgrade camps, barracks, spell houses too unless you like to suffer from stupid rushing, rather than strategic rushing

no iTzu guide needed tbh, common sense should be enough to figure it out

[fading blade]

Well the guide says (for ch3) get wiz valley stuff then rush camp and all lvl2 barracks except superbarb in barb camp dh2

And we just say follow the guide so clan mates don't get confused

[idle dragon]

we've basically been doing:
attack buildings > ruins > cheapest other upgrades to get ch/dh upgrades

well we've mostly been doing that

got some die hard anti rush players with lvl 3 walls at th10 refusing

[fading blade]

1. Army camps
   2&3) Troops and Spells
2. Buildings (ruins)
3. Lowest costing upgrade
4. Capital hall

This was b4 we said follow guide

In our clan

[fierce rampart]

makes a lot of sense

how do you force your members to read and follow it?

joking btw

[tired marlin]

I just send mails.

or make everyone have discord

[fierce rampart]

i mean, we have a clan discord too, but the only member am i, kinda dead end communication

[modest hinge]

our clan wants to max but tbh I don't think it'll matter a whole lot

since they aren't doing walls

kek

[fierce rampart]

why maxing though? Amount of raid medals increase with capital hall level only interfered by some SC added randomness

[modest hinge]

because leader

don't mind it tho as long as I get those raid medals kekw

[fierce rampart]

So why maxing, the very slow and painful way and miss out a ton of medals?

[modest hinge]

ask the leader

[fierce rampart]

start a revolution, arrest leader

[modest hinge]

there's prob like 75 medal difference

idk how significant it is but meh

[fierce rampart]

more like hundreds of medals a week

[modest hinge]

well

I doubt it's in the hundreds

[scenic flame]

Do wall pieces count towards hall upgrades?

[modest hinge]

the main point being I have no say

so idc

[fierce rampart]

i'm sure it will be hundreds in a few weeks

100x52 is a lot of medals

[modest hinge]

after all when the leaders are maxed th14's they have no use for medals so fair enough

[fierce rampart]

per year

[scenic flame]

How many raid medals did you guys get last weekend?

[modest hinge]

and ig maxing is simpler when communication isn't very reliable

from a leader's standpoint I could see why

[scenic flame]

We got 359, how does that compare?

[fierce rampart]

Welcome to the standard SuperCell trap, maxing good, rushing bad, no matter what reality is teaching 🌚

[modest hinge]

it's not that it's a trap imo

[fierce rampart]

rushing done right >>> boring slow maxing

[modest hinge]

just ppl play differently

[modest hinge]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[fierce rampart]

start a revolution

[modest hinge]

it depends on how much longer you have to stay at a capital hall

[fierce rampart]

install a rushing doctrine after

🌚

[modest hinge]

[fierce rampart]

doesn't really matter tbh, raid medals are not that useful yet

not if the difference is just 100 medals

[modest hinge]

for the low capital halls the upgrades for max vs rush probably don't differ by a lot

leader sent a clan mail telling to max when the capital hall was half done

and the next day they maxed

kekw

[fierce rampart]

it will be a pain for higher levels

[modest hinge]

well yes

[fierce rampart]

your clan will 'lose' millions of capital gold with this strat

[modest hinge]

but that'll prob take a while and we can see if people change their mind

[fierce rampart]

like literally millions

and the gap will increase every week until max capitals are waiting for the next update

anyway there is no real right or wrong

[modest hinge]

^

for the time being

there isn't a big difference

[fierce rampart]

i've seen maxed bh6 players with more attacks won than my rushed bh9 has with o.t.t.o

[modest hinge]

I'm still working towards otto

I think 13 bm levels left

[fierce rampart]

getting o.t.t.o is a pain

getting o.t.t.o as a maxing addict is pain^2

[modest hinge]

lol

I rushed the bh ofc

but I don't want to have to spam edrags in home village

[fierce rampart]

home village is a totally different story

maxing one main and rushing as many alts as you want is a good strat for me

[idle dragon]

ive got more bb attack wins than a couple max bh9s in my clan lmao

incl walls and all that

[earnest glacier]

I need a clan

[opal junco]

#old-inac

[digital pebble]

Guys what is a good average of attacks while attacking capital peak 3?

I don't know a good base.

Someone knows one?

[jolly flax]

COD GHoStS

👻

[old wagon]

Yo

[jolly flax]

just gotta call out the pfp, man i love that game

[old wagon]

Nostalgic

[jolly flax]

your right, probably in the thousands

instead of getting up to 7k CG from 1 players awesome attacks, now that player might only get 6k or less because of worse offense

[jolly flax]

252

[digital pebble]

Someone?

[digital pebble]

And for this?

[jolly flax]

idk, best i can say is experiiment till u get it right @digital pebble

[fierce rampart]

m'

m

[remote lava]

.

[acoustic flume]

Curious.. walls vs gates.. whats the point of having a "gate" vs not wasting a wall piece for that?

[sacred zealot]

p sure only defensive rtoops can go thru gates

[fierce rampart]

you can convert a wall into a gate without wasting anything

and your defensive troops can walk through a gate, while they are trapped behind a wall

the gate is a changed wall

[jolly flax]

gates have no negative, only your own outpost units can go through it, otherwhys enemy forces still have to break and enter

gates are used as a way to let your own camped troops through to defend, like in the raid battle tutorial they had super giants with no gates, they couldnt come out and attack your archer right?

[sweet crane]

why dont you use all gates instead of walls then?

[spark tree]

It would definitely mess with defense troop ai I would think.

[tired marlin]

sometimes u want ur troops to stay inside a certain area instead of wandering off

[still laurel]

Share Capital hall 5 base layout picture please

[jolly flax]

like save it as a secret weapon type of deal

[viral temple]

Can someone send me a good barbarian camp level 2 base pls

[calm kite]

new channel

[viral temple]

pls i need a screenshot of good bases

[digital pebble]

Can someone send a ss of new capital 3 or end capital 2.

[fading blade]

Clan discord for those in the discord, clanmail if they arent

[fading blade]

well it has flaws

someone donated to an air def

in capital

[opal junco]

We have 5 senior players who start upgrades that we know we need and everyone else only completes started upgrades

The senior players also use the forge as they are maxed

[fading blade]

problem is even tho i start the upgrade someone goes n starts one that we dont need

and i dont think its a fellow co leader/leader himself, cuz we are all in discord

we just hit ch3 and now we are trying to do ruins in wiz valley

[opal junco]

Then it’s a clan issue that only you can resolve

It may take time to work out who keeps doing it but it can be done

Ask players to post a screen shot of before and after they donate ??

May be time consuming but you can rule out certain players using this method

Eventually whoever you are left with have to be the culprits

[fading blade]

thing is, not all are in discord

[opal junco]

Then that’s your choice how to run your clan

It’s mandatory in my clan as it improves communication and makes leadership easier

Having different standards for different players will only lead to problems ….

[fading blade]

most people in the clan are old members, and this is the 2nd revival (died twice)

we tried discord last time before it died, didnt work cuz couldnt get old members to join

cuz some had problems

some didnt want to

[opal junco]

Clans will die without good communications

[fading blade]

some thought that it was a hassle to type in the link

etc

[opal junco]

That’s your choice to keep these players and it has a knock on effect when players arent part of the team in all aspects

[fading blade]

theyre good players, just that some have problems with discord i guess

[opal junco]

Good players aren’t always team players if they just do what they want

[fading blade]

also im not sure if recently invited players are cooperating or not

[fading blade]

they are (most of the time) team players

[opal junco]

New players in my clan have a mentor and guidance from an Elder

[fading blade]

nice

we try our best to help our clanmates

[modest hinge]

lol

[opal junco]

As should all clans

[scenic flame]

Do wall pieces count as buildings/traps for hall upgrades?

[fading blade]

idont think so

[fierce rampart]

bruh, this is still a game not an army barrack with drill instructors

your setup sounds more like a clash of clans dictatorship, Dino740

[vagrant kestrel]

Meow meow meow meow meow meow

[idle dragon]

something we'll be trying this weekend is attempting to limit value from a couple barbs walking around the entire base by putting some defences in that completely blocks the deployment area

might be something to consider as i see a lot of first attacks getting 70%+ and opening the entire base

[vagrant kestrel]

If the first attack is focused in just opening up the map than that wont do much , but if the attacker goes to the center with the first attack then its ideal

[idle dragon]

so far my testing has shown it only work if you wall off both defences used

trapped well people can fail completely to open it i think, shame i cant trap for shit

[fierce rampart]

and all this for very few more def medals?

two more attacks needed with 100 troop spaces each will gain you 4 more def medals

4 attacks more will result in 8 medals and so on

[idle dragon]

its still fun to try figure out, ik defence is negligible

[digital pebble]

Guys if u want to upgrade a wall in capital peak is that for one wall? Its 140k for one wall or for all walls?

[sacred zealot]

the pricy price is all walls

[digital pebble]

So if i click on a wall to upgrade and it says 140k it is for ALL walls?

[sacred zealot]

yes

it even shows u

[digital pebble]

Yesss, thought it was for one piece🤯

[sacred zealot]

very bottom

[digital pebble]

Oh lol😂

I just clicked on a wall😂

[jolly flax]

well.. not only for medals, when u make something amazing u feel super good about it right?

[jolly flax]

all

[jolly flax]

exactly

i love making an awesome defense

and watching a really good base design come together

[vagrant kestrel]

Yea but the rewards dont justify spending gold on decorations to remove em , to make better layouts , and im a bit sore on that

[warped hound]

Anybody have a good level 2 barb camp base?

[jolly flax]

i understand, im sure supercell will take the feedback tho and change it

as game developers they should understand that we want that, we have the ability to create awesome bases so why not be rewarded by that?

[vagrant kestrel]

So any word on what sup erc ell learned and will change from the first "trial" raid weekend

[fallow mountain]

H

[vagrant kestrel]

L

[jolly flax]

oh this weekend was like a testing weekend?

[warm valley]

Anti super wiz design

[jolly flax]

the real problem is super giant attacks

ive tried making and testing a lot of designs, no matter what each time they always take only 2 attacks to kill

[vagrant kestrel]

Yea there wasnt supposed to be a raid weekend immediately the week of the update

Just have buildings with really high hp 2 spaces away from the rest , no need to go all in on anti wizz

[jolly flax]

wanna know the cool thing? i got a screenshot of the countdown

at the 1s mark

first ever raid weekend in CoC

☺️

[bitter lava]

Is there any tips I should build my base with? I'd show my current base but yeti got mad at me

[warm valley]

Don't chunk major defenses together

super wiz will melt that

[jolly flax]

thats only ch3 up

[bitter lava]

I should add that I'm a clan capital two

[jolly flax]

exactly what im saying, so u can ignore his advice until u reach ch3

try to keep your mortar heavily defended, but also dont keep defenses on the outside or naked/in the open, archers can take those out easy

try to put traps in places specifically to counter archers while their in hidden

the capital hall should be somewhere in the middle of the base, unless u know how to use it as a reliable meat shield that won't immediately break

[kindred patio]

What do y’all think?

[shrewd needle]

L

[steel hazel]

big L

[oblique mason]

I know I still have some ruins left. But overall thoughts on it?

[bitter lava]

nice, thats similar to what I plan to do, though check the topmost river crossing with the one wall, pretty sure it doesn't stop troops from crossing, or at least the deplyment area

[oblique mason]

Yea I don’t think it will. Once my other ruin is complete I can block it off. Tested it and others similar and it took 3 attacks

[bitter lava]

nice

[vagrant kestrel]

Any cap peak lvl 4 layouts owo

[small pilot]

lmao enat

[steel hazel]

u L

[small pilot]

nou

[craggy phoenix]

Quick question, why does the lvl 1 capital walls cost 140k to upgrade?

[buoyant fractal]

Cumulated for all the available wall pieces

[sacred zealot]

because thats for every wall there, not just 1

[elfin valve]

Any suggestions for clan capital th 3 base design for all

?

[vagrant kestrel]

I made this but it might be shit

[craggy phoenix]

Okay, thank you

[fading blade]

wiz valley is a tough one to design (yes we hit ch3)

so far every design is 2 attacks

[fading blade]

(no ruins unlocked)

[fading blade]

this channel feels so dead sometimes

[fading blade]

except for swiz barracks which was unlocked just now

[fierce rampart]

gates need to be walls on roads, afaik, and SC has some interesting ideas how roads are changed by placing a wall on them

[fierce rampart]

if SC has learnt something from the first raid weekend it is probably that players will mindlessly dump gold into decorations just because they are there. It's the same trap as this stupid 20k obstacle in bb, some players never remove it, most of the players dump bb loot in it.

[modest hinge]

moving the capital peak trees is acceptable imo

anywhere else no

[fierce rampart]

wasted loot means likely more gemmed loot

main base forrest are designed to be annoying

i mean they are in the way for lvl 2 capital halls

but, i think it's currently still a total waste of time to build bases for 20-70 def medals and remove trees to do so

if you like, fine

nothing wrong with doing something you enjoy to do

in clan capital, not everything everywhere 🌚

[modest hinge]

lol

[fading blade]

dont the roads just adjust to how you place gates along your walls?

[fading blade]

more like ch3, as we have a lot more defenses. With ch2 i can fit all defenses inside walls along with some houses inside and outside the walls, though not all houses fit in the tree ring

[fading blade]

imo for trees id say (if ur rushing/semi rushing) wait till ch3, get all the ruins for wiz valley, dh2 for barb camp, attacking buildings n ruins there, then after u finish with the ruins in capital peak, start on the trees

but its not up to me to decide, as sioux said, [read reply]

[fierce rampart]

seen roads jumping after placing a wall, and completely disappearing after placing another and never returning

try to place a wall in the middle of nowhere on a road

a single wall

[fading blade]

ill try it

[vagrant kestrel]

Wdym ppl dont care about base designs cause the rewards are negligible

[fierce rampart]

based on the rewards released so far this 7 month delayed xmas update is negligible

it might keep max players a bit longer in the game

but if you come back to coc coz of this most exciting update in history just to find out SC released bb 2.0 you'll probably done

10 years is still impressive

but clan capital ain't it in 2 years

[jolly flax]

lmao

[jolly flax]

i dont think so

its a really fun clan activity to work on and improve

its not for maxing the home base really so anyone can chip in and still enjoy it

personally im in love with the raid weekends

[west galleon]

How ddo u attack ur own clan capital

[scarlet drum]

I think you can do that by posting district FCs, but they're disabled during Raid Weekend.

[west galleon]

K

[mild dove]

You can tap on the district you want to fc and then just fc from there

[scarlet drum]

Does it help defensive rating to delay starting the Raid Weekend raids? Last weekend, it took other clans roughly 2½ more attacks for each time destroying our capital than it took us for each capital we destroyed, but the game had us get attacked more than twice as many times as we attacked, then gave us almost no raid medals for defense. I'm hoping starting later will help with what seems to be a horrible algorithm for determining how well clans do on defense. Otherwise, is there something about the layouts that get capitals attacked by more / fewer clans?

[fierce rampart]

u forgot the door

so the giants can get out

[jolly flax]

yeah u can just do friendly challenges, but like in home base or builder base, u have to be in that base to send a challenge for that base

and like he said its disabled during raid weekends

[vestal tangle]

you still get attacked before you start raids

[jolly flax]

we only get attacked like 14 times

[silver cedar]

Does builder potion speed up the forging?

[bitter lava]

yes

[silver cedar]

How do you use builder potion on the forge when you have a max base, and no buildings are being built?

I see no way to activate the builder potion

Nvm i figured it out

[jolly flax]

mine didnt...

i used 2 builder potions and 2 hours later, only 2 hours of progress

[bitter lava]

on the capital gold you were crafting, correct, not the free daily gold?

[jolly flax]

yes

crafting

[bitter lava]

well then I don't know what to say, I know it works as from my own experienc, as well as videos showing and it being in the potion's description

[spark tree]

there is a lot of bugs rn

[unreal shard]

let see, I am using one currently.

seems to have worked for me..

[atomic ridge]

Does anyone have a capital hall four layout

[bitter lava]

you can probably find one in #builder-base-links

[jolly flax]

this is #clan-capital-strategy

not gonna be builder base talk

[bitter lava]

I know, they asked for a builder hall base, I thought they were in the wrong channel, but answering the question, I do not have one for that lvl

[jolly flax]

oh yeah, i read that wrong

[wanton tree]

is it good if my capital peak takes about 4-6 attacks to destroy?

[jolly flax]

yes

well depending

what capital hall?

@wanton tree

[wanton tree]

CH3

[jolly flax]

honestly i'd push it to take 5 at best, but preferably more attacks to destroy

but tbh your defenses don't matter much since u dont really get much raid medals from defense

[wanton tree]

yeah i just enjoyed building bases. My clan can destroy a CH3 in 3-4 attacks, but it takes most clans 5-6. Only 1 clan has 4’d our CH3

but ill try to keep improving it

[jolly flax]

i think earlier i 3 starred a ch3 with only 3 attacks

it was capital peak

[wanton tree]

nice bro

[opaque plaza]

Whats the best layout to use for ch2 whilst we upgrading to 3?

[fierce rampart]

anything but the regular one

[jolly flax]

heres a new one i just made

for ch3 with all ruins unlocked

would do u guys think of it?

[sweet crane]

nice base! made possible by the tree cleaning

[bitter lava]

I think it looks pretty good

[jolly flax]

thanks guys, love the support

[fading blade]

looks good! so weird not seeing the tree ring

only downside is that halltillery range not fully used

idk but maybe try moving it to the compartment top right of where it is rn

[jolly flax]

the what range?

oh your talking about the capital

i was thinking no originally, but looking again, damn that seems like a good idea

[fading blade]

yea the hall's artillery poking out the top

its very powerful

[jolly flax]

i know it is, thats why i put it in the back

to heavily slow them down

so long as it lives for awhile

[fading blade]

yea thats a good idea

just that there is another alternative

i have no idea which is better:
better coverage of the hall but its wont survive long, or the hall lasting longer with less range

[fading blade]

HOOOOLY COW

I've discovered something I think NO ONE knows about

[unkempt estuary]

whomst

[vagrant kestrel]

This update is nudging me towards deforestation

[fading blade]

Not gonna show it yet

I have to see how it goes

(it's quite minor but it could be useful both early n lategame)

[unkempt estuary]

lol

[abstract flume]

Need you to come do raids for us

[reef stump]

anyone here have a capital hall level 2 layout that’s good ?

[fading blade]

not really, but just put your capital hall in the centre and put defenses behind walls around the hall

[wanton tree]

both have served the clan well so far

[fading blade]

Wheres the DH?

||middle of the pic, look up||

[sweet crane]

so?

[fading blade]

theyre defensible locations

u can just tuck the dh in either top or left corner n defend it from there

[idle dragon]

our cp has held an average of 5.1 overall and an average of 5.4 against other ch3s. defo been working

[tight loom]

Our clan is almost able to upgrade CH to lvl 4. Question is, will be get matched up against ch4 clans then aswel? Is it better to upgrade walls and maybe save up some capital gold before advancing to CH4?

[fierce rampart]

Def medals are based on only one single defense, the worst clan spending the most troops will give you the rewards, total amount of destroyed troops divided by 50 = def medals, so starting raids a soon a possible should be better in average, coz bad clans have more time to get matched with your clan

no walls, CaptnJack, unlocking haste baloons >> walls, and yes you'll be matched against other ch4, but loot increases too

[tight loom]

Haste balloons better then giant/super wiz?

Feel like there is so much air defense. Minions are rubbish

[fierce rampart]

they are situational, but can snipe a def deep into the base

[plucky token]

Suwiz and heal can tear this down easily

[idle dragon]

minions completely op wth

giant smash attack 1 mass minion attack 2 can take out all the district's we've faced in 2 hits

capital is different but similar principal

[fading blade]

Umm sorry to burst your bubble but I think 5.4 not too good
Though I'm not sure if 11.167 is good

[idle dragon]

we've been averaging 3 on attack

so anything more than 3 is solid probably

[fading blade]

Haste loons are probably only good if you can find a gap in their air defence coverage, but watch out of large groups of spears
Also giant swiz needs you to make sure the giants tank everything, otherwise the wizards are too weak n slow to kill anything

[fading blade]

Attack per raid? Or district?

Cuz 3 per raid is insane n probably not possible unless you've been super lucky, so I'm assuming district, but just double checking

[idle dragon]

per capital peak

7 per raid

2 per district 3 for peak

[fading blade]

7 per raid is still quite good if that's your average

[idle dragon]

we had a 6 earlier

idk what our average

we got some real shit attackers

[fading blade]

Oof

[idle dragon]

but between those of us that can attack i had the worst at 8

[fading blade]

I can't remember attack average for our clan but last time I checked it was an 11.167 for 6 raids I think

[fading blade]

Defence

[idle dragon]

wait is that total raid or only capital peak

[fading blade]

Some got 8, some got 14

[fading blade]

Total

[idle dragon]

oh our total is at like 15 i think lol

[fading blade]

Imma go check if my clan upgraded dh2 for barb camp

Can probably get some army camp upgrades underway

Nope but here ya go, proof that wiz valley (not all ruins but some strong ones unlocked) dh1 is stronger than barb camp dh1

[modest hinge]

@idle dragon are minions that strong

[idle dragon]

well idk if its cos people have forgotten their existence or not, or just the complete lack of air splash at ch3 but yes

i imagine they fall off hard pretty fast tho

[modest hinge]

oh lol

it’s for ch3 ig

I think ch4 has more air bombs

And those things have massive range

[idle dragon]

yeh we matched a ch4 and it was pain

[fading blade]

There are a few air bombs

Well, 1 per district

[vagrant kestrel]

The trees need to burn in hell

[fading blade]

Yes

[tired marlin]

faxs

i hate those decorations

[haughty fable]

I didn't unlocked all the ruins yet so this is the best I can do

[vagrant kestrel]

Wizz value

[haughty fable]

Wtf do u expect to do with those trees, my Leader is gonna be really piss off if someone drop gold for them

[tired marlin]

they cost alot to remove

[neat pilot]

75.5k for the circle forest only lmao

Its too much for f2p

Well at least for my clan

[bitter lava]

heh, my clan decided it was a good idea to (it wasn't really)

[idle dragon]

is that ch3?

if so, youre sunk if you use that cos of the huge chain value

[vagrant kestrel]

Im running out of adjectives for job , tell me some more

[bitter lava]

upgrade random stuff, works for my clan (I wish we didn't though)

[opal junco]

We upgrade the cheapest until we can start a TH

[unkempt estuary]

good work

[vagrant kestrel]

Good work and great work, thats two mails that should cover the rest of the weekend

[unkempt estuary]

lol

[opal junco]

Awesome

[viscid island]

does anyone know if i clear the large forest in capital peak (which has 12 total obstacles) that ill need 12 less upgrades to upgrade capital peak?

[vagrant kestrel]

Removing decorations dont count as buildings upgraded or rebuilt

[viscid island]

damn, ok ty

[vagrant kestrel]

Now what can we say to trick clanmates that removing them wont be a waste of time and resources

[opal junco]

Tell them they receive a bonus instead

[vagrant kestrel]

Oh yea i could send a clan mail that removing them gives the clan 500 gems each , i swear i saw someone use this earlier ,just didnt knew what for

[jolly flax]

do it, screw earth lmao

[vagrant kestrel]

Scorched earth ftw

[jolly flax]

incredibly bad...

just straight bad

super wizards are unlocked at that level

and their attacks chain to close buildings

[jolly flax]

well then too bad for him, removing trees is the way, i suspect he do not know the way

[jolly flax]

not really, last weekends raid we gained 140k in total, completely maxed ch2

[jolly flax]

removing trees is the best thing u can do

[marsh quarry]

Opinions? This is what I could do with the ruins unlocked

[grave orchid]

Anyone got a bass link for cap hall 3 or can u not copy stuff

Base

[vagrant kestrel]

No link system for cap bases yet

[jolly flax]

it looks nice, the big issue i had with our wizard valley was that it could be rushed easily in 2 attacks, giants and wizards make a good combo

pfft wizard valley weak to their own creations

[vagrant kestrel]

Bring the huts close to the water so the spears cover em

[marsh quarry]

okty

[marsh quarry]

still this may hold like 4 attacks since almost everyone is still new to attacks

[jolly flax]

eh, i mean thats a big maybe

[vagrant kestrel]

Your opponents will be the same level as yours

[jolly flax]

ill take screenshots of all 3 bases and post here

see what we use

[vagrant kestrel]

Theres a clan called dreamcatcher 2 (german) cleared our capital (ch4) in 11 attacks , bruh moment for a base designer

[marsh quarry]

that moment where you spend 20-40 mins designing a base just to get destroyed in 2 attacks 😔

[vagrant kestrel]

The rewards are abysmal so the morale just goes to why even bother

[neat pilot]

No yea like u could remove forest in like half raid weekend but its still sad cos half of ur raid weekend gold goes to trees

[vagrant kestrel]

Made this for ch3 , literally told my clan im not editing this anymore till the trees are gone

[grave orchid]

Feel that 💀

[vagrant kestrel]

Also the battle rams run pretty far so its very viable to make maze like walls with holes

The itzu base is very nasty at the start cause of that

[jolly flax]

ok lmao i got distracted in base building, but here i a now after finally getting back on track

[jolly flax]

this one was what i was building

or the top one since i realize their all together

our capital peak i just finished designing, turned out there was just this PERFECT amount of walls like it was meant to be

[vagrant kestrel]

No trees <3

[jolly flax]

havent been trees for a few days

[jolly flax]

up here was like the last day we had trees

[vagrant kestrel]

Demn

[solemn robin]

so proud of my clan we finally cleared all the trees but if i’m being honest my capital peak layout was insane with the trees still standing, defences averaged about 15 attacks 11 being the least 21 the most

[jolly flax]

yeah trees were annoying to remove

campsites are a pain too, doing them rn

3 left to remove

[neat pilot]

Does anyone know how to write an R with walls

Im trynna do one of those bases saying like upgrade ruins and i cant make an R

[jolly flax]

um maybe not that

[jolly flax]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/807402116884594710/973435233556922398/IMG_1729.png

this is how i did it

[fading blade]

Nice

[fading blade]

Wiz valley + almost all ruins crammed in swirl took 5 attacks to kill, I've sent a picture earlier to show that even wiz valley is stronger than barb camp

[neat pilot]

Thank so much both of you

[fading blade]

Do a small R (like this: r) it's basically an upside down L

That's how I did it

[neat pilot]

Imma try it too ty

[fading blade]

It's way easier n more wall efficient than capital r

[jolly flax]

but still it looks ugly...

[gloomy flame]

Does anyone know how / where it shows your rank over all for Capital

[vagrant kestrel]

The third tab when you open your clan?

[fading blade]

True but that's the best I thought of at the time

[fierce rampart]

man the heal spells are busted

[opal junco]

Spells once deployed stay in place for all following attacks

[modest hinge]

No, just the attack after

[fading blade]

Yep

Lasts 2 attacks only

If it was all attacks it would be way more busted

[noble gull]

lol

why it looks like that

[fierce rampart]

Capital peak level 4 with all ruins unlocked base. Only been attacked twice. Avg. 7attacks

Hopefully it helps someone 🙂 been working good for me so far

[compact harness]

anyone got a capital 2 with ruins unlocked base?

[tired marlin]

i like to look at populat clans and copy their bases

[compact harness]

good idea

[carmine steeple]

Wrong

Only for 1 attack afterwards

[carmine steeple]

So people know what to spend money on

[vagrant kestrel]

Its a waste of gold to upgrade spell storage at the start right? , It only increases the space by 1 , when the spells take 3 space and 4 is literally useless

[opal junco]

We had already established my info is inaccurate but thanks for jumping on the bandwagon no matter how late …..

[carmine steeple]

Lmao no problem man

[carmine steeple]

Honestly I’m not sure maybe you’ll get cheaper spells too

So I’ll list spells and housing space

1 - lightning
2 - jump spell
3 - rage, heal
4 - freeze

The numbers being how much housing space they take

So I’m assuming u won’t get freeze for awhile. But you’ll get jump spell I think during ch4

[neat pilot]

For barb camp, where would you place the air bombs once rebuilt?

[carmine steeple]

Not sure, my coleader made the base I put him in charge of barbarian camp since he wouldn’t stop messing with my base designs

[jaunty chasm]

Any good Clan Capital 2 bases

[neat spire]

Omg

[glossy meadow]

[carmine steeple]

Omg that you got a super easy base?

[unkempt estuary]

true

[fading blade]

Serotonin levels rising

[neat spire]

Looks hard for me hsuehueheu

[unkempt estuary]

ez wiz chain value

[true seal]

Do trap upgrades seem like a good idea for rushing to the next capital hall level, or would it hurt us in the long run. My clan also makes sure to max all offense upgrades and repair ruins ofc

[sweet crane]

ch2 right?

[fading blade]

to be honest, traps arent worth the upgrade, even though they are cheap
during raids, the trap gets activated once, and then its gone for the following attacks, resulting in very low value, especially if they send a weak troop like super barb to test the waters before sending in the rest of the army
meanwhile upgrading buildings is way better, because if they survive an attack they are still there for the next attacks until its destroyed, which is very good value for its cost

[fading blade]

ch3, ch2 is just stone blocks next to the entrance, ch3 is when theyre carved out to become barb statues

[true seal]

Thank you, I’ll be sure to let my clan know hopefully they’ll listen

[sweet crane]

ah. looks like everything is ch2 to me

[carmine steeple]

The base is super compact, it’s ch3 which means you are also ch3 so you have super wizards

Super wizards have incredible chain damage

[carmine steeple]

(Also the very dark wood outline which is way more obvious)

[fading blade]

(idk i feel like the stones are more obvious but eh doesnt matter)

[neat spire]

We dont

We are upgrading the camp

[modest hinge]

rip, unlock them asap

[fading blade]

shouldve rushed wiz valley stuff, with almost all ruins tucked into the swirl thingy it takes 4 lucky attacks to beat, usually 5

you only need that 23k ruin and the barracks actually

to make the place powerfull

then rush barb camp dh

n go camps n barrack upgrades

[tacit sedge]

Does someone have any tips to improve my base? (This is barb camp)

The walls are placed like this bc the battle ram is able to destroy 2 tiles of walls at once and the defences will attack while behind the walls, archer can’t attack the defenses before destroying atleast 1 wall

[fading blade]

OK so there are a few possible weaknesses I can see but it will take a while to list them all so give me a moment to type em out

[vagrant kestrel]

You need compartments , once the top compartment is open , the bottom wall lines become irrelevant

First attack should be aimed at clearing area near spawn and opening the top compartment for attack numero dos

[fading blade]

About this, they hit 4 walls but in an upside down T formation

OOOXOO
OOXXXO
^
X = walls destroyed
O = walls untouched
^ = where the ram hits

[vagrant kestrel]

Unrelated note here are our two raid weekends

[tacit sedge]

So what ur saying is that I need walls in the back?

[vagrant kestrel]

Clan activity died after cwl ;_;

[vagrant kestrel]

The ideology should be to make a series of mini bases , not one big base

Or just a big maze

[tacit sedge]

That’s why the rams can’t destroy both of my rows of walls at the same time

[neat spire]

We just upgraded to ch3

[tacit sedge]

Guess that’s what I’ll try and make than before next raid weekend, thx

[fading blade]

Front walls: that extra wall near the small hut is not needed
The top walls (near the mountains n that tent thing): the square box u made, you don't need the extra walls, instead move one of them to connect the bottom of the box to the river south east of it (ask if u don't understand cuz idk how to explain this well)
Other wall issues: As loyal death said you need compartments, otherwise a few rams can break thru 1 of your multi layer walls n open the whole place, making your walls useless

[fading blade]

Exactly, the space walls were good

[fading blade]

Still, main focus after you upgrade to ch3 is go to wiz valley immediately, don't upgrade anything else

[fading blade]

top walls im talking about

[fading blade]

Defences:
top side id say spread out the bomb towers so they dont both get sniped by archers that get in, also swizs can kill it easily if giants tank (basically too close to each other) (pic 1)
same with bomb towers, spread the giant huts out while putting them in places where lots of defences hit them, theyre distractions, they exist to let other defences hit the attacking troops while sacrificing themselves (pic 2)
you may want to move some defences back from the walls, cuz if they attack from the back it will be harder for defences to reach (pic 3)

[steel hazel]

is that barb camp lvl 2 or 3

i stil cant tell the difference

[fading blade]

2

[haughty fable]

Anyone have a decent lvl 1 Wizard Vally base with all building unlocked and no decoration need to be removed?

[plain folio]

Hey

Lets see peoples bases

Heres mine

Guess i cant post a second pic

Oh ima newbie...thats why

Its spam lol

Well theres 1 outta 3 bases. Anyone have any opinions about it?

[boreal widget]

What?

[plain folio]

Do you see my base layout above or no

[boreal widget]

I only see your messages

[plain folio]

Oh nice

Well i posted a pic and it shows up for me lol

[boreal widget]

You just need to chat more or verify your accounts to send pics

[plain folio]

Yeah i needa chat more

Can you post your capital district?

[boreal widget]

Sure

I’m looking for a nice builders workshop base 👀

[plain folio]

Nice! Could you post one of your bases though? Lol

I meant the capital peak lol

@boreal widget

[jolly flax]

i also want to see your bases @boreal widget

[plain folio]

Can someone, anyone post their bases?

Did it work?

(Does anyone see a pic above)

[boreal widget]

Yes i see it now

[modest hinge]

zamn

thats a stacked capital

[plain folio]

Sweet

[waxen bloom]

how many attacks does this base normally take?

[ornate pike]

4

[haughty fable]

Hmmm how about some sup wiz and archer to backstab the hall???

[jolly flax]

idk, its mostly untested

[waxen bloom]

was it used in the weekend raid that just finished?

[jolly flax]

like once

it was already at the end of the raid defenses we took

[waxen bloom]

ah i see

[fading blade]

clump your defences in the center swirl thingy, if you dont have enough space maybe expand to the top left side, remeber to wall it off, also put your heal spell factory and spell storage in the top and left corners of the map (trust me its worth it)

[fading blade]

damm thats stacked but (i may be wrong) there are some potential flaws
at the spawn area, if the right side wall is broken the attacker can go round and hit the hall from the back
the 2nd crusher should be n a place where the troops can go without need of breaking walls (like in builder base, or like where you put those mega mines near the spawn area, or like where you put your first crusher), but must be in range of other defences so that range troops cant obliterate it
there are some wasted walls around the place so id suggest maybe using them to block off the back of the hall
spread out your mines a bit, dont want 1 battle ram/giant/whatever setting all of them off in 1 go

[haughty fable]

If someon raid my clan, this will be the last building standing before they get 3 started 👍

[fading blade]

which district?

[haughty fable]

You can literary know just by looking at the house

[fading blade]

oh sry, didnt think

well, the thing is most people try n clear out the houses surrounding the ch, so it prob wont be the last

[fading blade]

if u do this tho, then yes (for wiz valley)

[plain folio]

So folks

Does it really matter if you max all districts before upgrading your Peak.... or

Can you do like 80% and then once youre able to upgrade the peak, you do it.

Whats the "smartest" way

[dapper solstice]

Nope bro our clan follows strangery we cleard side buildings in first atttack

[arctic cliff]

Those high level CHs is a dream for me ,literally my clan is at CH 1 and I'm the one who's actually donating capital gold.

[idle dragon]

you need a new clan

[arctic cliff]

I can't leave my clan 😎

And I'll lose 15k+ capital gold

[vagrant kestrel]

You wont lose the donation counter , but yea the contributions will be wasted for you

[arctic cliff]

Is that so?

[vagrant kestrel]

Yea the amount(the number) you donated wont be reset

[vagrant kestrel]

Yea this one

[arctic cliff]

All right I'm ready to leave

[dapper solstice]

@arctic cliff which town hall you have
We focus on clan capital (level 5 capital hall)
B2B CLAN WARS

[fading blade]

just rush, dont stop to max

[plain folio]

Why you say that

[fading blade]

you get more medals from attacks than defense, might as well rush all districts n max from there

[dapper solstice]

@fading blade defense is doesn't matter in clan capital if you don't design base doesn't matter. Your focus is only on upgrading troops and unlock more district

[fading blade]

thats literally what i said

attack is better than defense, rush all districts (to unlock troops n stuff) and max from there

[dapper solstice]

@fading blade yes

[fading blade]

dont need to ping me every time

[dapper solstice]

It's habit of band

[manic trail]

how do you practice attack in clan capital? Like I wanna test out the defenses that we have built

[dapper solstice]

@manic trail you challenge and attack

On your own base

[idle dragon]

go to the district you want to attack, then in the same place as challenges are

[dapper solstice]

But medals are too less😑

[manic trail]

oh, thank you

[neat pilot]

Like dis?

[idle dragon]

swiz go brr

[manic trail]

ok, that is how you do a practice attack in clan capital, thank you

[boreal widget]

The walls can’t be broken the rams don’t target them we used it in the latest raid weekend and the opponents had to use a average of 9 attacks to destroy our capital peak most of our defs have average of 23 attacks and the most used is 29 attacks

[plain folio]

@idle dragon what do you think about rushing in clan capital

[idle dragon]

good

[fading blade]

yup thats it, also nice cramming, i couldnt fit everything in and still make it look good
only downside (as status has mentioned) is swiz, but crammed defence means taking out the tanks quicker

[fading blade]

ahhh okay

[idle dragon]

heal spells tho

4 giants 6 swiz will do funny things

[fading blade]

crammed swiz towers can too

well our crammed wiz valley layout takes at least 4 attacks to beat

[idle dragon]

good or bad attackers?

[fading blade]

theyre good okay ish

though most of the attacks which take 5 forget their heals

[idle dragon]

bad attacks then if not using spells

[fading blade]

well as long as they keep forgetting good for us

[idle dragon]

true lmao

[celest badge]

You know best play game in the world

[arctic cliff]

I have a TH 9

[boreal widget]

Finally at ch6 time to make some new bases

[torn salmon]

I am at capital peak still 💪

9 person clan! Woohoo!

[boreal widget]

You’ll get there soon for raid weekend

[torn salmon]

I hope so lol. Its so hard to get medals, and I dont wanna sacrifice builders

Other dude said he can make them in one hammer hit why can he help

[celest badge]

Hhi guys anyone here virgin

No

All men suck a girl

Dmn

[torn salmon]

We play clash of clans

of course we are

[torn salmon]

I just found 1500 on my alt in gold pass!

only 35k more away!

[boreal widget]

Nice

Getting there

[torn salmon]

Its somthing

[plain folio]

@boreal widget , are you rushing you capital or maxing each district

My clan wants to not rush, and Im trying to get some reasons on why we should. Just to see their response

[boreal widget]

We’re rushing offense > defense

The higher ch we are the more raid medals we get

[plain folio]

Dont they say

Defense is the best offense?

[boreal widget]

Not in clan capital

We’re just upgrading key defenses for each districts to get enough for next ch upgrade

And we’re doing well with just that

[plain folio]

Are you worried about getting matched with non rushed clans for raid weekend?

[boreal widget]

Averaged 15 attacks per raid

[plain folio]

Christ 15 per

Thats nuts

[boreal widget]

It doesn’t really matter to us since we got strong offense

[plain folio]

We do about 4-6

Interesting approach

[boreal widget]

Our troops aren’t rushed so we can destroy the base wether is rushed or not 😂

[plain folio]

Interesting

[boreal widget]

Our def log averaged 24 attacks per raid

So 🤷‍♂️

[plain folio]

I getcha

[boreal widget]

Most attacks used against us was 29 😂

[plain folio]

So people are rushing for raid medals for resources at the trader

Our clan isnt starving for resources or items so were gona max out 👊

I appreciate the talk Trinity

[zealous thorn]

not only medals, capital gold as well is higher if you fight stronger clans

[plain folio]

Buy

But

[zealous thorn]

which happen faster by rushing

[plain folio]

If you get mismatched against a clan that didnt rush, and it takes you 15+ attacks each capital..

Then you will only defeat 5 clans

Compared to 15 if you go properly

[zealous thorn]

I don't see how that could happen if you upgrade your offense

[plain folio]

Id like to do a side by side n compare tho

Because you leave ur defense

And u have weak defense

[zealous thorn]

raids are NOT 1v1s, there is no winner or loser

[plain folio]

I understand that

THANKS

So are you telling me...there is 0 downside to rushing?

Id like to think Supercell is smarter than that

[zealous thorn]

the ONLY reason to care about defense is actually medals, because that's the ONLY thing you'll increase by not rushing, however, rushing is also going to increase the medals from defense, offense, capital gold

[boreal widget]

Matchmaking is fair tbh

In raids it really depends on how well you attack

[plain folio]

Its fair because its new and were all semi close

Give it a month

[boreal widget]

It’ll still be fair because that’s how matchmaking works

[plain folio]

You ever CWL?

🤣😬

[boreal widget]

It only matches you with similisât capitals

[plain folio]

That what it is on paper

You ever CWL?

[boreal widget]

Ofc I do it in m1 and m2 every month

[plain folio]

Ive played since 2014

[zealous thorn]

why do you compare something that has NOTHING in common ?

[plain folio]

Matchmaking is matchmaking

[boreal widget]

But the capital matchmaking is not the same as cwl matchmaking

[plain folio]

Well duh

[boreal widget]

Supercell stated it as well is more like multiplayer matchmaking

[plain folio]

It is still algorithms that determine your matchup

[boreal widget]

Which matches you with similar bases

[plain folio]

Do you not believe rushing will effect that?

[boreal widget]

No

[plain folio]

Rushing effects you big time in MM

[boreal widget]

It matches you based on how many buildings you upgraded

[plain folio]

I have a rushed th 12

I get matched with solid th 12s and higher

[boreal widget]

Home village is different

[plain folio]

I dont see any 11s

Trinity

[plain folio]

You just said its similar

So if thats the case

Rushing will indeed hurt you

[boreal widget]

Similar mot exactly the same

[plain folio]

Not now...maybe not in 1 month, but it will

So again, do you guys believe there is 0 downside to rushing in capital?

[boreal widget]

I mean you do you it will not affect clan capital at all just slows down progress

You guys can take the slow approach

[plain folio]

Slow n steady wins the race

I have a hard time believing

[boreal widget]

Ofc just step by step

[plain folio]

Supercell would have no penalities, or setbacks to people who rush

[boreal widget]

None

There’d already be problems about it if there are

[plain folio]

Come again

[boreal widget]

There are already big gaps between clans

[plain folio]

Like what

Alright fellas Im gona head off, thanks for the chat and food for thought

[zealous thorn]

I see 3 things to optimize in clan capital :
-capital gold
-medals (offense (about 92%) and defense (about 8%))
-fun
MM is based on the total number of upgrades you did on capital, whether it is a small bomb or an artillery, but like I said, you can't win or lose in raid, so who cares if you face stronger clans if they give more of everything ?

[plain folio]

Have a good one n talk later 🤙

[boreal widget]

Def only make opponent maybe use 1 or 2 more attacks per raid which gains you like 1 extra defensive raid medal

Sometimes not even 1 ig

But rushing to higher chs means you get higher matchups for way more raid medal increase

[zealous thorn]

the problem is actually people who heard in 2016 that rushing is very bad and kept thinking that until 2022 in home village, and applying it also to BB and now capital, even though it makes absolutely no sense

[boreal widget]

Bb was annoying when I tried to max it every bh 😂

Got so much easier when I rushed it to unlock cannon carts

But some people just don’t like to rush I guess

Not much harm other then slow progression 🤷‍♂️

[zealous thorn]

that's exactly the problem, they don't want to understand the rules and just follow blind beliefs

[tawny rain]

I’m not going to spend 140k gold on walls that can be 1 shotted by lvl2 battle ram that only costs like 25k to upgrade

Not now anyways but later on sure

[zealous thorn]

depends what you call "later", as you progress, you unlock even more stuff that doesn't care about walls : jump spell, loons, fortress, Sdrags, hogs, golem... And anytime a single battle ram is gonna take care of them. Plus like for HV BB you can use untargetable walls to mess with the IA and it can be very valuable, and level 1 walls would do the same great job as maxed levels on all those cases. You'd have to look at how many walls get destroyed with direct troop damage per raid, look how much of a difference that would have made if they had 1k5 more hp, wonder what you could have upgraded with the same cost on defenses and how much more these stronger defenses would have done

[idle dragon]

walls are gonna be the absolute last thing we do

cos its just not worth it

[tawny rain]

Later as in the last thing we do

Waste of gold lol

[zealous thorn]

I highly doubt lvl 2 walls are ever gonna be more valuable than any defense at any level given their cost and upgrade value

yup

[tawny rain]

Even with the giants alone they crack open walls super fast

[idle dragon]

don't walls also go from like 1.5k to 7.5k health so not like it's super super important either

[zealous thorn]

5k to 6k5 at lvl 2

[tawny rain]

Lvl2 walls defend against lvl1 battle ram

So lvl3 we’ll probably defend against lvl2 battle ram

But not even useful since lvl2 battle ram only costs like 25k gold 😂

And lvl3 is ~50k

[zealous thorn]

yes, you need a battle ram same level as the wall level or higher

[tawny rain]

Walls are probably designed to be the last thing to get upgraded lol

Gold dump

[vapid pelican]

walls count as builds to upgrade? If yes, all walls count as 1 or 1 for each segment?