#Create a old fashioned cluster (Conquest)

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subtle eagle
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as well as making it over a day or 2 or even longer for lootbox purchases

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If I remember correctly that's what ruined the last conquest wipe

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people were getting absolute horrible stuff out of drops and then other people would just buy a plat lootbox pack and be absolutely set for wipe

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There was no farming bps, you literally almost never got anything above journeyman in cave drops from that wipe and the rare times you did get something better, it was not even good.

viral flame
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idk about that. I have opened some lootboxes in my time I wont lie but never have I gotten anything crazy

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what did that wipe in was hard to get tek and gasbags were open

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so many wiped to half day gasbag raids

subtle eagle
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I remember clear as day

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whole reason my tribe quit that wipe is because it was literally impossible to get ANYTHING good from drops

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no one had anything up for trade bp wise on there first couple days and the only people that had anything up on there were posts with shit like this

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the most blatantly lootboxed stuff

viral flame
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founds things like that in osd's. You havent been able to find stuff like that in and supply crate in any cluster for awhile now

slim sphinx
viral flame
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shifted loot to osds as its a pvp event over pve supply crates

slim sphinx
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enable suits and rifles

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pvp gonna be so fucked

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just dino based atp

viral flame
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suit PvP is the worst PvP

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plus what was annoucned by ronnie is basically final at this point

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wipe starts in a few days

torpid eagle
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The real question is what kind mods will be working this wipe? Are we gonna see a leaderboard and will the osds and veins mod be working on extinction?

tiny dragon
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so you are only allowed 125 tames?

subtle eagle
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ill slam u in pvp anyday Skull

slim sphinx
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u are a drone

subtle eagle
subtle eagle
slim sphinx
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u are not real just stop typing

subtle eagle
slim sphinx
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especially asa dedi mains

subtle eagle
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if ur gonna keep yapping go #🧂ark-salt im not tryna get muted, but most offi players i've ever played with or seen are horrid

slim sphinx
subtle eagle
pine niche
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Anyone know if boss is nerfed at all for conquest wipe

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On Friday

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@subtle eagle do u know g

subtle eagle
viral flame
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as in difficulty or drops?

subtle eagle
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if u mean how hard it is to do idk

pine niche
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Ok

viral flame
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prob just like other 3 man servers

pine niche
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Ye

viral flame
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so can still cheese solo

pine niche
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I can do scorched in 5 mins then

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And cen

viral flame
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did nerf how accessible the artifacts and mats are

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no idea on how much

pine niche
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Just farm them like u on official it’s fine

fallen saddle
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Whats the tame rate going to be?

cerulean mauve
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As people were spamming again earlier, I want to mention again - can someone look into zeppelins and their structure limit? As we are removing platform saddles.

pine niche
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@cerulean mauve it be normal like on smalls and normal conquest so not that much

cerulean mauve
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Wdym normal?

gritty owl
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disable tek tapes

cerulean mauve
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Right now I am clueless what can you build on zeppelin on EA, but I want to avoid some crazy gate builds.

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So it would be just like racers but instead with zeppelins.

cerulean mauve
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And also - allow more teslas to be built and dont make them too expensive when it comes to ele, because imagine - ele is already nerfed and teslas are super easy to cannon with only outside bases.

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There should be some price to them, but tbh don't make it obnoxious in a way that people can barely use them. Because with 20x maturation people can throw like 300 carbos on your base within few days.

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And realistically if someone pulls up when you are offline (and its just 3 man), how long does it take realistically to destroy couple of teslas with cannons?

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30 minutes?

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I just personally think that getting rid of caves (which is point of this mode) + reducing amount of element + limiting teslas in 3 man format is recipe for people wiped very early.

gleaming fiber
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teslas are stupid. cannons are stupid.

ripe verge
cerulean mauve
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There are many things in game you could consider stupid, but they exist. And what I am trying to underline is that we shouldnt push conquest in "hardcore" direction to please some of the tryhards, if there will be no casual players with a job around within few days. Then everyone will again complain how the conquest died.

empty sky
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Bro Plattsaddles removed what Kind of dumb Change is that

modest bramble
topaz helm
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Tbf @cerulean mauve has got a point, no point in only a few ppl getting enjoyment out of it as everyone else would get annoyed

cerulean mauve
# topaz helm Tbf <@297322049280540672> has got a point, no point in only a few ppl getting en...

It feels like there are some things that got suggested by people who play 12+ hours a day. I am just wondering why do we reduce amount of element that we get together with such tesla limitation and also inability to build in caves with all those juicy terrain turrets. It just feels like another 3-4 days season. I would say that if we limit amount of ele, then lets reduce maturation rate from 20x to like 5-10x but I bet thats not what people want to see either as nobody wants to wait for dino to grow.

vapid blade
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Getting tributes out of drops is a big time saver as well for people that cant be on 12 hours a day. Helps keep lower hour tribes competitive

past grotto
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What time does it drop 1pm uk time or US?

cerulean cradleBOT
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past grotto
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Are waterfall platforms fair game?

cerulean mauve
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I am not sure if Ronnie is still checking this, but I will give my suggestion as change to what he already wrote - change element gains from boss fights to at least 2x and also make reasonable drops when it comes to tributes and artifacts (don't make it hard to get them), also element veins should be yielding decent amount (maybe we can lower it compared to main clusters, but not much, I would say like 25% less).
Also big point teslas - make them accessible - you can add element cost (let's say like 40 per tesla or something like that) but don't limit their amount - as if you want to build up some additional turret towers, you most likely want teslas there also.
The reason for these changes is that I would say probably majority of players here are working and they can't spend insane amount of time farming stuff and defending, so they rely heavily on offline protection. Already the fact that caves are gone and you can't have many terrain turrets on ceiling is a massive hit, because like this you can throw bunch of carbos into enemy base and soak all the turrets that are not players only.
Also considering that we keep maturation rate high, it also underlines the need for access to ammunition.
Also again take a look at zeppelin and what you can build there - don't allow some gate builds (if they are currently possible) as they would work like racers, which would be problem for all land bases.

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And if we still want to nerf all of those things, meaning that we want less element to be available and limit teslas to only like 5 - then let's lower breeding/maturation rates to somewhere around 10x from 20x to make it more reasonable when it comes to mass breeding.

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But with the current setup, where people can't use caves, I think it would be a mistake to throw many sticks at defender's side, if we don't want the cluster to die within several days like last time. People aren't used to play without caves and it surely brings certain challenges and many players on elite are on elite mainly because they can get stuff fast even with the low amount of play time, which they might have.

fickle frost
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what if we got rid of teslas and cannons?

gleaming fiber
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do a test run, and do some live changes till we get near perfect settings. everything has different opinions, and you cant make us all happy, and tbh 75% of the pop isnt even giving suggestions anyway.

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open the server up, and do some community votes on all the important complaints and do your best to do some live changes so server doesnt die

cerulean mauve
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Then we dont hsve teslas and cannons. People will throw shittons of carbos on each others bases in couple of days with 20x maturation. Teslas damage amp partially solves that.

cerulean mauve
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Then there was no conquest for next half a year. But if you guys want to make it simple to raid most bases early on, then be my guest.

pine niche
cerulean mauve
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And btw I am not sure how possible it is to make live changes, because it can be complicated. Thats why Ronnie mostly creates setup and then doesnt touch it until next wipe.

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But Ronnie tbh from your standpoint its safer if people are a bit harder to raid than simple. If people are harder to raid then pop stays up longer, then people get bored and complain, but that creates option for nerfs for next time where we make it easier to raid. But I think considering again how it went last time, I am unsure if anyone will want another conquest if this one is just another flop.

charred elk
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Could do a 24 hr wipe on tommorow as a test run and see how it goes like a rag only or some

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Limiting tribes to 5 teslas is bs ur just asking for everyone to be offlined and maturation def needa be lowered

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I think the idea of killing some ones tame and making it actully matter made it alot funner

cerulean mauve
cerulean mauve
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Remember guys, we used to have teslas here for quite some time. People complained but they played and they were also getting raided. Now teslas are already nerfed and we can only build outside bases. I feel like that is already big enough disadvantage on its own.

cerulean mauve
# charred elk Limiting tribes to 5 teslas is bs ur just asking for everyone to be offlined and...

I would also tbh mess around maturation rate a little bit, so it makes more impact if you kill someone's tame, because with this rate it literally doesn't matter if some dino dies, because you usually have hundreds of them. But that would require farm rates to be nerfed also to balance it out, where we are getting closer to normal conquest setup and I don't think people want that. But perhaps reducing maturation from 20x to 15x could be a thing.

charred elk
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I think maturation needs to be atleast 10x if not lower u aint got forcefield and u have 5 teslas all ur gonna have is turrents pretty much

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Idk why everyone acts like teslas make u unraidable

modest bramble
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raiding bases with teslas will prob take u a lot more time and players playing less than 6/7 hours a day will not be able to raid bigger bases especially later in the wipe

charred elk
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Again teslas dont make u invincible u can litterly rocket them down

modest bramble
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with tons of turrets protecting it?

gleaming fiber
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yea man rocket the teslas

fickle frost
cerulean mauve
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Yup, I think so also, its better to get bored because its hard to raid than have dead cluster within few days.

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And we will know what was hard last time

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But bois again its land bases, people will be getting raided. I am sure of it.

tawny needle
cerulean mauve
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But again please look into zeppelins if you can't make some crazy gate builds with them.

charred elk
cerulean mauve
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I just wanted to make sure that its reviewed on elite

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So people can't cheese with them potentially, thats all

charred elk
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Its just like a quetz except teks one shot it and heavies shred it

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But ronnie def needs to give us like 20 teslas per tribe atleast

cerulean mauve
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Except that you can make gates on quetzal

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Honestly let's not limit teslas now and we will see how it goes - maybe you can add some price when it comes to element, but leave their amount unlimited.

gray gazelle
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Adding my inputs as someone from working class with limited playtime
Been part of elite family for a long time now and no matter if it was ASA or ASE
I was off lined every single time

If conquest is aimed to attract similar crowd
It would really help to address it over ORP settings

topaz helm
# fickle frost You nailed it here, I think we make it harder to raid than not. Not going to li...

yeah theres a balance that will only be found by trial and error, make bases too strong and ppl will only offline but too weak and itll be dead sstraight away. i think getting rid of the arkomatic stuff would balance out the bullet farming at least a little but with that like capital said reduce raising by half. ppl spamming tamess into a base would then be a problem, and no pod raising aswell

cerulean mauve
# topaz helm yeah theres a balance that will only be found by trial and error, make bases too...

Removal of ARKomatic will mainly benefit high gametime players. Those with less time will have very hard time to keep up as you need to sit around and craft ammo. The automation makes it possible for those guys to make reasonable amount of ammo together with farming. We should rather discuss this change on main cluster if something, because generally caves are more easily defendable, not introducing such change on conquest, where we want people to stay for this time.

devout bobcat
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I think keep Teslas and remove cannons

topaz helm
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yeah but its ridiculously broken for bullet craft, onlining with unlimited bullets is just a top up fest

devout bobcat
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Put a limit on Teslas tho

charred elk
cerulean mauve
fallen saddle
devout bobcat
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10 is better

charred elk
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20

charred elk
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20 would be perfect number

devout bobcat
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Do u know how op they are

charred elk
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Yeah it aint like they make u invincible

cerulean mauve
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I mean you should be able to cannon them. Not allowing cannons at all would be I think annoying for people, but those are my two cents, just let people make them freely and allow cannons. Simple as that.

devout bobcat
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Allowing cannons will absolutely kill the population as any any base in the open will be cannoned

timber garnet
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What’s the taming rate?

pine niche
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@devout bobcat just make a rule u can only use canon for crab and rock golem taming u get a warning if u do it to a base the second time u get banned or something

timber garnet
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Just add the xavi cannon mod

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It doesn’t do damage to base structures

pine niche
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Really

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That would probably be better then

timber garnet
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What’s the Taming rate lol

pine niche
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Not sure same as there other server so solo duo 6 man and stuff

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Its fast tho

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@timber garnet

verbal sapphire
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I’d say that this cluster should remove pyromanes as it is one of the metas in the game and is one of the p2w mechanics. Much else it surely sounds very interesting this upcoming cluster!!

gritty owl
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even with them disabled for 48 hours, they are still so strong. Even when ppl have full kits, really only thing to counter them is in bob tales aswell, which u have to buy. 'extinguisher grenades, or your own pyro"

cerulean mauve
devout bobcat
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i mean 48 hr ban is fair imo

cerulean mauve
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I guess its question for Ronnie if this can be done

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charred elk
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Takes like 100 cannon balls for 1 wall with orp

devout bobcat
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it really doesnt

cerulean mauve
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Once people start putting down tek walls, then it is literally few hundred of cannon balls. Not really worth doing.

empty sky
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having no palt saddles just makes it a only player turret paradise

timber garnet
charred elk
fickle frost
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Like i stated, we could add platform saddles, add cannons, etc etc as we see either raiding is stale or too slow.
But if we start off with all this, and everyone gets wiped within 12 hours, then we cant do anything about it.

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I rather be a bit cautious than not.

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Today my team is going to go crazy building tons of flat base spots, floating islands, new water islands etc

thorn bane
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Where does maewings spawn

empty sky
gritty owl
empty sky
devout bobcat
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Nothing is unraidable you can just stego bomb above

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Off a zeplin

vivid gazelle
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Put a custom spot near the world border ceiling 😂

torpid eagle
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I don’t like the idea of just making it a pure soak meta, there’s already no tek rifles so you can’t rush any exposed gens, taking away platform saddles only helps tribes that are bad at building.

gleaming fiber
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yea looks like shit PvP

pine niche
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Because I can’t use rifles

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I like there no being rifles should be suits tho

austere rover
austere rover
modest bramble
gleaming fiber
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yea looks like shit for actual competent pvpers.

modest bramble
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fr

gleaming fiber
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Feels more like a server for victims and those who get wiped on anything else

austere rover
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Eliteark is only removing Plattform saddles because 70% of the players don't know how to deal with a racer online...

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They don't want the pop to die

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What makes it really L

gleaming fiber
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pop will be dead from the start if you dont attract the long term tribes that actuallt stay around more than a week

devout bobcat
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They said they can always enable if it goes stale

austere rover
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Especially on conquest where u want the big Fortnite fights... U take out an essential tool to punish poorly build ones

empty sky
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They Need to be enabled from the start

pine niche
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Jar of pitch

austere rover
empty sky
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@fickle frost allow plattforms but Limit struc Limit to 10

pine niche
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They remove it

austere rover
pine niche
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Not in Asa

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Sad

pine niche
devout bobcat
fickle frost
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What if after a certain amount of days we add it?

devout bobcat
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4?

pine niche
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3

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Nvm 4

fickle frost
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We want to definitely slow down compared to last time. Last time everyone went to sleep and woke up raided by the top 1-2 tribes per map

pine niche
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Ok

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is there going to be ark automatic

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I think there should be

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It slows down raiding not everyone likes only crafting adv for a day straight people got work and shit

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Ronnie I don’t know if you would agree or not

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@fickle frost

vivid gazelle
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The guy saying it isnt comp does 36 hour streaks 😂

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That's not comp that's just sad

gleaming fiber
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never have i played for 36 hours

pine niche
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I am just trying to think about people who have jobs

pine niche
vivid gazelle
pine niche
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Bruhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

vivid gazelle
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Don't lie to the lizard king 😂

gleaming fiber
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that only shows i had the game open

vivid gazelle
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I'm sure you can figure out a new way to comp without racers and rifles bud. I believe in you

pine niche
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I hate rifle PvP so boring

gleaming fiber
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bob server. real winners dont need to take out meta dinos to competete

pine niche
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1023 don’t talk go touch grass

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Please

vivid gazelle
gleaming fiber
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#🧂ark-salt us the correct channels

vivid gazelle
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I'm on topic bud

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I'm only pointing out your bias

gleaming fiber
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yes im biased on the side of winners, and you are biased on the side of losers

pine niche
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I would like there to be suits

gleaming fiber
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that says enough about you

pine niche
vivid gazelle
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I don't think there is a channel for self glazing yet

pine niche
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No

vivid gazelle
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Maybe you should start a topic

gleaming fiber
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use the correct channels if you wanna talk shit

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tek suit are stupid and bad for pvp

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use the sino for building

pine niche
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Same with rifles

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They bad for PvP

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Bola rifle that’s it

gleaming fiber
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player pvp yea but esential for base raiding

vivid gazelle
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Not talking shit? Ronnie said that 2 tribes end up offlining everything. Considering I have seen you do nothing but self glaze off lines, it's pretty clear you would bias toward methods that are meta for offlining.

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It's my duty to point it out for the good of balance 😂

gleaming fiber
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you dont know anything bc i have posted several onlines

pine niche
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For base raiding rifles are fine for PvP u should be banned forever

gleaming fiber
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yesterday i dropped 3 towers online

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you arent helping the discussion. you are talking shit. take it somewhere else

pine niche
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No

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Do u see my name

vivid gazelle
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I am helping the discussion. I am saying that racer bombing and tek rifles are very bad for conquest.

gleaming fiber
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im not even talking to you

vivid gazelle
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You are saying otherwise

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Are you confused?

pine niche
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They banned brontos

gleaming fiber
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server will flop just like it did last time

vivid gazelle
pine niche
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And banned plat saddles so dreads are useless

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But not diplos

vivid gazelle
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Diplos are long, not fat

pine niche
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They tanky

vivid gazelle
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Okay you're not using them like I'm using them 😂

pine niche
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They get like 150k hp good ones

gleaming fiber
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off topic

pine niche
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I drop 5 in a tower

vivid gazelle
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It's not

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We are discussing things banned in conquest

vivid gazelle
pine niche
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Ok

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How u doing boss

gleaming fiber
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he doesnt play

viral flame
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man you all a bunch of crybabies

vivid gazelle
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I don't play this 6 man wipe. But idk if I'm playing conquest yet

viral flame
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you know there is no such thing as pleasing everyone

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there will be things on every cluster than some like and some hate

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feel like I am talknig to children in here

gleaming fiber
pine niche
pine niche
vivid gazelle
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My question literally mentioned conquest

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You are referring to me not playing 6 man for some reason

gleaming fiber
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i never mentioned 6 man

vivid gazelle
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So by that logic you don't play either

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Nobody here does

gleaming fiber
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stay on topic

vivid gazelle
pine niche
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Look dm

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Giga

vivid gazelle
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Now. Racers bad, tek rifles bad. Bases are 360,so it's half as much to soak. What you crying bout

gleaming fiber
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bases are not 360 if i put mine in a corner

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and if soaking is the only meta for this cluster then the pvp and raiding is shit

vivid gazelle
gleaming fiber
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only says something about yourself

vivid gazelle
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These are the things that are nerfed that you are complaining about 🤷‍♂️

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I think a racerless quetzless wipe are good for this. If I could disable karki throw without removing the grab I would aswell 🤷‍♂️

viral flame
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some of you are truly sorry lol

gleaming fiber
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victim server

viral flame
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Na most of you here dont know how to actually online raid

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why you all begging for platform saddles to return

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thats weak af

gleaming fiber
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so you like soaking then

viral flame
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gives a better chance for them to come online so we can PvP which is fun

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whats the point of playing at all if you simpply avoid confronting anyone

gleaming fiber
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ok enjoy your soaking

vivid gazelle
viral flame
gleaming fiber
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stay on topic

viral flame
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explaining why we dont need platform saddles is on topic.

torpid eagle
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Platforms saddles are useful online and offline

viral flame
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not really

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never used one online and never seen it used against me

torpid eagle
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Well elite ark isn’t very competitive but they are definitely used online to blow spam and push up foundy control and make plays on towers, a healthy compromise is just reducing structure limit, but even that is just coping with players inability to build

cerulean mauve
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People upset again that they cant gate racer run land bases gg. You guys complain about soak meta, where the whole soaking will be about throwing tons of carbos on the base anyway and then once there are just players only turrets, then you have different options. I dont understand the constant urge to run stuff with boxed racer - its not being skilled or competent, its just a way to cheese anything that isnt closed in cave. But generally we can allow platform saddles in few days, as long as the structure limit is low - like 8 or so and you cant build gates there - basically it will only be box around the player sitting on the racer or quetz.

gleaming fiber
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this guy doesn’t PvP

gleaming fiber
cerulean mauve
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You can act like elitist jerk as much as you like, but the fact is that if you want to run server, you don't adjust it towards top 5% of the PvPers who play the game 12+ hours a day. You do it towards majority, because if majority leave, then even those top 5% PvPers will complain about server being dead, which exactly happened last time. Yes there are many people that don't know how to build, there are many people that can't play too many hours, but they still want to play and somewhat compete. But if you are simply allowed to wipe all of them with very little effort, they will not rebuild, because they wouldn't care anymore and they will rather wait for normal cluster, where they can hide in their cave with bunch of terrain turrets and just survive way longer than they normally would.

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Which is what happened last time and if it happens again, that everyone gets raided too fast, I am not exactly sure if Ronnie would want to make another round anytime soon. And as he said - things can be unbanned as time goes, but we don't want everyone to get raided day 1-2.

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But no matter what - normal cluster with racers is acceptable since you can easily drop fobs or outside turret towers instead of soaking them, before you get to cave itself, where racer won't help you anymore. But again - here are land bases only, so be a bit mindful and accept the fact that you won't be able to show off your peak skill by building racer box and running around with bag of C4.

subtle eagle
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ur a bot if u wanna enable gate racers on conquest

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just factuals

tiny dragon
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just wants to raid everyone in one day instead of understanding the importance of maintaining population

subtle eagle
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as someone who has constantly used it and pvps, it's beyond dumb to include it in conquest

vivid gazelle
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That guy complaining is in salt putting offline raids everyday pulling 36 hr shifts. So comp

subtle eagle
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you could just say you're lazy and don't wanna find other ways to raid people or soak

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actual bots

tiny dragon
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If built correctly, a raid shouldn't be 30 minutes cause you have a box against 100s of turrets

cerulean mauve
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No, but instead it might as well be few hours

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It's a 3 man and people mostly sleep sometimes and also work.

vivid gazelle
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If the land is flat there's not that many places you can even put a gen vs a racer box on a tower. Nothing to do with building

cerulean mauve
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People still say "if built correctly, if built correctly..." Well if built correctly, if tribe pulls up with 3 racers, they will take your base apart in relatively little time, compared to any other strategy.

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And on top of that I have already mentioned - most people don't build properly, but does it mean that you don't want to allow them to play and only allow those few tribes, that "can build properly"?

torpid eagle
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You can play if you don’t build properly but if you don’t build properly it should be able to be exploited it’s a common skill gap in the game

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Everyone is so desperate to close the skill gap on this server instead of just getting better

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Why don’t we just make everyone unraidable and make this a pve server

vivid gazelle
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Problem is, with a zepp you can just drop racer boxes. There's not much to do about that, it's barely any problem no matter the build.

torpid eagle
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Bro what

cerulean mauve
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Glo, tell me - do you need racers to raid anyone?

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Or is everyone automatically unraidable?

cerulean cradleBOT
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Hi Kosticka! Tribes with PVE enabled are unraidable. To check if a base is on PVE before raiding, you must use the command /pvecheck. If your tribe has PVE enabled, you are not allowed to raid. The tribe leader can type /pvp in-game to end PVE early. Once PVE is disabled, you cannot receive it again unless your tribe is badly raided.
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vivid gazelle
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You can have racer boxes on a zepp. They get kicked off a quetz but not a zepp

torpid eagle
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Ok so what? You’re just gonna drop onto a tower with a racer box and wipe it?!

cerulean mauve
vivid gazelle
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No, you drop on an outer edge obviously

cerulean mauve
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Tell me mate

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Are you that limited?

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Oh boi no racers, we got PvE server now

torpid eagle
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Brother no your missing the entire point

cerulean mauve
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So tell me the point

torpid eagle
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By taking away ways to raid you make it more difficult to raid making the server more pve

vivid gazelle
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I think you are missing the point. Last conquest got decimated very fast

torpid eagle
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Reducing the skill gap

cerulean mauve
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We removed mainly racers

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So, is it automatically that server is PvE? Or that people are unraidable?

cerulean cradleBOT
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Hello! No, removing racers does not automatically make a server PvE or make people unraidable. PvE status is something a tribe leader can enable or disable. Tribes with PvE enabled are not allowed to raid, and you must use /pvecheck to ensure a base is not on PvE before raiding it. Tribes with PvE can defend their base within render distance.
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cerulean mauve
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On land bases

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And AI, please give me a break, I am not asking you

vivid gazelle
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Lmao

torpid eagle
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Bro taking away racers reduces the skill gap in the server it’s that simple

cerulean mauve
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It is just one thing

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The fact that its outside bases increases skill gap

vivid gazelle
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You're ruining his raid plans!

cerulean mauve
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Everyone nowadays is all about terrain turrets on ceiling

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They will actually have to build now

torpid eagle
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100% does increase skill gap people have to build properly now, but with no platform saddles you can’t exploit bad building anyways

cerulean mauve
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And please don't talk about skill when the racer seems to be the only thing you can pull off

vivid gazelle
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Most people are forgetting that land bases are usually a full 360. That means that is literally half as many turrets to raid. Tappys are enabled, tek rexes are enabled, bugs are enabled

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But muh racersssss

cerulean mauve
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That's at least how you seem to be now

subtle eagle
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ur a bot glo 💔

torpid eagle
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You have no idea how I play keep this to the suggestion and stop shit talking

cerulean mauve
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Glo but when you said it wasn't your point

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Let me repeat you my point

vivid gazelle
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Racer bomb then post "tower dropped!!!!" in salt

cerulean mauve
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Conquest has been tested already and it died in about 4 days, because most people were wiped by then

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Clearly nobody enjoyed that

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Do we agree that something has to be done here?

subtle eagle
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they also need to nerf lootboxes or buff lootpools

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no reason someone should have a full set around 1k dura flak on first day

cerulean mauve
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Sure there wasn't just one problem, but the main reason was that people were wiped

torpid eagle
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I think they need to buff lootpools and delay lootboxes

cerulean mauve
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If we find out that raids are too hard and too boring, sure we can add new things as Ronnie mentioned.

torpid eagle
cerulean mauve
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But Glo, I bet that you don't need to run people with racer box few hours into a wipe.

subtle eagle
vivid gazelle
torpid eagle
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100%

subtle eagle
cerulean mauve
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But clearly - people need to have ways to survive, it's a different style.

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Let's not be overly sensitive, because one raid strat is removed

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Arguably the one that can be abused most against land bases.

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I am sure Ronnie will go for further changes depending on how it looks.

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If people can't be wiped (which I am sure they will be), then things will be adjusted.

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But we don't need to allow the most punishing and honestly even stupid strategy there is against land bases.

torpid eagle
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Last time tek saddles were removed I thought that shouldn’t had been removed either

cerulean mauve
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And btw Glo - racer boxes were not allowed even last time

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There was structure limit set to 8

torpid eagle
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I don’t hate that either

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I’d rather have the boxes but I’m fine with the limit too

vivid gazelle
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Tek tappys gonna slap bases

cerulean mauve
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I don't think so

cerulean mauve
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But man, tbh I think that people will be still getting wiped left and right with all of these restrictions

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I think we are overreacting over racer

vivid gazelle
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Tappys are nails on conquest. Just yeet a stego on the weakest point and then tappy the teks

cerulean mauve
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And don't get me wrong I also abuse racer box whenever I can, it's cheap and fast strategy how to drop anything that racer can walk to, but it doesn't belong to land base only server.

cerulean mauve
vivid gazelle
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Wym no player only turrets. That's why you yeet the stego on top

cerulean mauve
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You mean stego with a rider?

vivid gazelle
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Ofc. Start highest point so the turrets are below stego then shoot from above stego

cerulean mauve
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That obviously works

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But I mean people should have ways to raid and I think thats reasonable

vivid gazelle
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I'm just pointing out a way to raid without soaking, but people are one track on racers and rifles

cerulean mauve
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Yeah

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But I mean hands down, people will be just shitting hundreds of turtles on people bases in order to raid them

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Not too heavy effort, very effective

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Obviously not as cheap as building up your racer box which is 0 effort

vivid gazelle
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True but they need a bit of time to get up to a decent soak time

cerulean mauve
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I bet it will be fine, people will still get raided, since the ratholes won't be a thing anymore and people are lazy to farm.

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Many bases with mediocore ammo count.

vivid gazelle
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Plus you can space a low range heavy here and there to pop c4 on any whistles. Too high to carb soak but just high enough to pop c4 on flyers or anything getting dropped

cerulean mauve
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And when you have super tryhards, you are not gonna raid those anyways.

austere rover
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I usually complain about box racer being too strong for outside towers... But now that the only possible way is to build outside... I still don't think that removing the Plattform saddle is gonna help... Racers are essential for pushing Fortnites and gaining foundation control... The best solution is to lower the structure limit on a Plattform saddle so people don't complain about getting wiped by a single racer day 1

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Online countering a racer is easy asf... It's just the offline op Gate build that ruins conquest

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Just lower the structure limit on a racer Platform saddle and online raiding is gonna change a lot from just soaking and refilling to something that takes more skill and is more intense and fun

cerulean mauve
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The problem is that if we limit structure limit to 8, if the fortnite is big you will hardly push it, as your racer will most probably get pummeled.

austere rover
cerulean mauve
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I dont think we understand each other

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I dont care if there is racer with structure limit set to 8 enabled with stegos

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People cry because they cant use their boxes

austere rover
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Racer is only there to punish poorly covered Fortnites or to clear foundations in turret range...

cerulean mauve
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Well but you arent going to clear those without box.

austere rover
austere rover
cerulean mauve
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No gates and limit 8 = box around rider

austere rover
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Nvm I just realized 8 is not enough to even get down and strap c4

cerulean mauve
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Ding ding

austere rover
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At least give them the PP build to one side... Problem solved

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Or if possible... Remove the capability of placing gates on racer

cerulean mauve
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Anyways I gotta leave this discussion for now. I think Ronnie's message was clear - stuff can be always added. We just need to maintain pop better this time.

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No reason to be dramatic

austere rover
cerulean mauve
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Or lets just leave racers removed for start and see how it goes. And then make adjustments over time.

subtle eagle
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best method said above, remove gates

vivid gazelle
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Can also build a plough on the front with just walls and stuff that will offline land bases very easily

cerulean mauve
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Structure limit has to be lowered regardless, thats for sure

gleaming fiber
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dead pve server

cloud crest
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This Server sounds like you have to soak every base for 20h+ 💀

vivid gazelle
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Racer bomb main

cerulean mauve
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Once again, last conquest people got wiped within first few days and racer boxes were also disabled. Yet you guys weren't crying so much before.

empty sky
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kosticka ur a bob please just stop making pve comments

cerulean mauve
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Oof that was some strong insult, how do I even handle that.

empty sky
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an insult starting with please yeah buddy lmao

cerulean mauve
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Is your sentence starting with 5th word? Some new communication meta here. Regardless you might not like what I am saying, but then hop into discussion and make suggestions that make sense with reasonable explanations why it would be good for the cluster. If you are unable to do that then please shush and stay quiet.

modest bramble
upbeat granite
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A lot of crying for people who just want to racer offline bases.

charred elk
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Its not the racers thats the problem its all the bs they trying to implement

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Like i dont understand why remove carchas or only 5 teslas but youll have maturation on 20x

cloud crest
supple marlin
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Damn it. What happened here. Some Kids insulting each other and no 1 cares. Just give it a try. Server settings look good for me.

keen dome
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Are they gonna keep custom resource/BP caves on conquest?

fallen saddle
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Can we get an actual channel for this with all the info and not just a thread to talk about it? Cause trying to find info by scrolling the convo or looking through announcements is not working well. Would be awesome to see all the custom spots....know what changes are being made....what the drops will have...where custom dino spawns are....the mods.... the rates.....custom crafts. Banned dinos...etc

devout bobcat
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3man Conquest PRELIMINARY NOTES

3man Tribes
Harvest Rate: 15x
XP Rate: 5x
Egg Hatch Rate: 20x
Mating Rate: 20x
Maturation Rate: 20x
No custom caves. However custom pillars, floating islands, etc, will be added to maps.
No Cave building.
No Rat hole building. Rathole: An internal chamber that varies in size, characterized by a narrow opening, tunnel, or passageway. Any spot that has a defined/obvious choke point. A rathole could be more than 1 opening, so its not always limited to just 1 so be aware.
Added sinomacrops
No Tek suits
No Tek rifles
No Tek forcefield
Tesla's enabled
All other tek enabled
200 tame limit with 7x propagators
ORP: 3x Structure and Turret damage
No vacuum compartments
Astraeos and ext veins nerfed
Bosses drop 1.5x the official element
Drops for artifacts / tributes reduced to compete for boss element
Platform saddles removed

Disabled Dinos:

Carchas
Dreadmare
Brontos

Disabled for 48 hours

Stegos
Golems
Gasbags
Griffin
Racer
Magnar
Pyros

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its also been announced

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ronnie also question where are sinos going to be spawning

past grotto
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What’s the difference between 3 man conquest and a normal server?

cerulean cradleBOT
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devout bobcat
fallen saddle
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Ya seen that still leaves many questions unanswered hence why I asked for a dedicated channel like the rest

viral flame
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the questions you have are never answered for any cluster

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sometimes you need to figure out stuff for yourself. Why people need the whole puzzle solved before they do it is beyond me.

past grotto
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No my question is not how does this particular sever differ because that is clearly shown with no caves, rat holes ect but my question is what makes conquest conquest. Because I look online and it says conquest ark is when you have very large tribes but obviously that’s not the case with this server so what makes this conquest server different to say just a 3man? Other than banning of caves and rat holes?

cerulean cradleBOT
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Hi! Based on the information I have, Conquest servers on EliteArk do not allow cave building. While I don't have specific details on what differentiates it from a 3-man server beyond the no-cave rule and the mention of custom pillars and floating islands being added to maps, the general understanding of Conquest in ARK is often associated with larger tribes. However, on this server, the key defining feature mentioned is the restriction on cave building.
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fallen saddle
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@viral flame are you dumb? Every server had these questions answered. Is not like I'm asking how to play the game, I'm asking details about their specific server. God you are am idiot. Stfu if you know nothing

viral flame
viral flame
fallen saddle
devout bobcat
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Stop arguing this is for discussions and suggestions only

viral flame
fallen saddle
viral flame
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can we just remove this guy. Try to discuss things in here and he just insults you constantly

upbeat granite
fallen saddle
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Can we get an actual channel for this with all the info and not just a thread to talk about it? Cause trying to find info by scrolling the convo or looking through announcements is not working well. Would be awesome to see all the custom spots....know what changes are being made....what the drops will have...where custom dino spawns are....the mods.... the rates.....custom crafts. Banned dinos...etc

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@viral flame @upbeat granite please stay on topic. None of your messages are about the server. Please and thank you. Ive been asking for a dedicated channel for conquest so its not ill in a thread. If you cant do somethimg about it keep to yourself.

viral flame
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all the info you seek in in asa announcements or the custom spot thread. I am not sure how many times you need to be told this.

tiny dragon
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will there be more custom places added cause they dont have them for se and extinction?

cerulean cradleBOT
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GOAT! We will be working on some new spots over the next couple of days, starting tonight. If everyone behaves, a channel might be created in #1252125294186201122 for these new spots.
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rain wren
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Maybe its better to bring a normal Limited Tek Wipe this Week and do some more testing and other stuff bf release a Conquest again. Looks like it will be a desaster wipe. Better do a one Week test phase or smthing bf releasing the next conquest wipe. So many new things, new spots, untested settings and more... This cant end well.

viral flame
cerulean mauve
supple marlin
modest bramble
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Yes very good

fickle frost
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are we keeping tek saddles?

fickle frost
# rain wren Maybe its better to bring a normal Limited Tek Wipe this Week and do some more t...

there will never ever ever ever be a 100% agreement on changes for conquest.
Its such a unique cluster and idea that there will be too many difference of opinions.

You have the hardcore raiders that want to wipe everyone day 1
You have the normal pvper/player that plays for a few hours a day and doesnt want to get offlined by 1 boxed racer.

This will be our second attempt, we did learn a lot from the first time and I'm taking a more cautious approach. We can always add items, dinos etc simply if raiding is too slow or stale.

vivid gazelle
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Ban dilos

gritty owl
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disable snakes and spiders

azure flame
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you kind of need tek saddles to effectively raid large bases on land otherwise your sitting there rotating stegos racers ect for 6 hours soaking a 300 turret fortnite with a cage

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itll already be hard enough to push bases endgame on conquest asking people to do it without tek saddles would discourage raiding heavily imo

fickle frost
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We kept them

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Thanks

cerulean mauve
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I agree, I think removing tek saddles would be too much

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We gotta be able to deal with tek turrets somehow

empty sky
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or it will be a onlyplayer fortnite mayham and also keep dino XP like it is on all other clusters just lower player xp

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if you make dino xp 5x aswell no one will play past day 1 bc im not witing 10 days for a carbo to have 30 lvls

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on a ded where bullets cost nothing

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@fickle frost

azure flame
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stop @ ing him

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he will read the chat when hes available

viral flame
empty sky
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You Never played a Server with 5x XP did You 💀

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60% of Pop will be gone day 1 if its 5x dino xp bc the Bobs will loose 1 Pt that been Lvld and quit bc it Takes to long to lvl a new one

upbeat granite
empty sky
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If its only 5x Player XP and 20x Dino its Fine

viral flame
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it was 5x dino

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seems you dont know about meta ways to level dinos in your base

empty sky
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Bro says Meta ways ur the Typa guy to go fob a base w 2 stegos

upbeat granite
viral flame
empty sky
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It is on Topic proves that im Talking to bobs atm

viral flame
empty sky
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And if it was 5x last szn that prob one of the reason the szn died that fast

robust robin
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I kinda want to have leveled Dino’s before the server is dead

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What’s the point of having a few fridges of carbos if they are only ready after days on a unofficial

viral flame
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guys must be gen z. So lazy

robust robin
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It’s bad enough I hv to wait that time on smalls

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Deffo lazy when my carbos are leveled when server pop hits 50 total

empty sky
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Lazy to wait 5 days for Dinos to gain xp on a dedi correct

viral flame
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If you dont like it then dont play

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I think free xp is dumb

robust robin
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Not free xp

viral flame
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dinos shouldnt even passively level at all

robust robin
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Just like other servers

empty sky
robust robin
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How u wanna get like 400 carbos ready than

viral flame
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I dont raid with carbos its weak

empty sky
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Right u dont at all I can tell

robust robin
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Ofc 5x xp is enough if I just raise 4 stegos all wipe and just offline kids

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Than 1x would be enough

viral flame
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also you guys say wipe will die in 1 day but barely any real raiding happens on any cluster for 2-3 days

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seeing as most soakers are temp banned

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you even play a EA wipe lol

empty sky
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Ur so smart omg

robust robin
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I normally play smalls so why would I wanna join a fast pace server just to have the same waiting time

upbeat granite
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You guys do realize that EA lowers the exp needed to level dinos right? Thats independent of the exp multiplier. Typically Dinos need like 160k exp to hit 80 levels but on EA 6,000 exp.

empty sky
upbeat granite
viral flame
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they only changing 1 of them

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trust me I played the last conquest and it really wasn't that bad

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maybe ronnie could consider 8x xp or 10 but 20 is a bit high for a cluster that is suppose to be slower paced.

cerulean mauve
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I mean we are all dooming everything before cluster even started

tawny needle
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Where will the sinomacrops spawn? can someone tag me on reply or pm me the answer please

empty sky
viral flame
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Yea but you go about it the wrong way. Making fun of people and @ admins or ronnie is not it

supple marlin
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Well pointing out and have a normal discussion, yes. Insulting, calling players dumb, idiots, or pve Bobs. Well not the smartest way

topaz helm
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I think bronto plats should be allowed like official conq, it was nice to see bronto and giga pushes again

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Also the bred brontos were used for rhynios

upbeat granite
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Brontos arent disabled for balance reasons my man

viral flame
charred elk
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Maturation should def be changed the whole point of conquest is slower progression

upbeat granite
charred elk
tiny dragon
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yeah but whatever keeps the population is what stays lol

ancient lotus
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GIGAS should be banned for 48 hours as well

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I see carchas disabled completely and other broken takes disabled for 48 hrs

empty sky
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Nah

ancient lotus
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GIGAS should be considered a broken tame

empty sky
ancient lotus
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Bro no way beeding is should be boosted lol

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Leveling is already a pain and that’s enough grind right there

pearl kelp
supple marlin
# empty sky Go official conq than

Seriously. That is a pointless reply. For Rates i could go official ofc but i play unofficial bcs of transfertoool, pulloption, stacksizes, arkomatic, cs, .....

charred elk
devout bobcat
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They said they can unban stuff mid wipe if stuff changes

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Stop moaning about stuff not everything has to be the way you like it there’s thousands of people that play

cerulean mauve
charred elk
devout bobcat
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Not going to be changed for 3 people

charred elk
torpid eagle
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Rhino counters are gonna be annoying as hell w no tek chest lmaooo

empty sky
viral flame
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Yea but rhino conuters sound fun. Tek chests ruin so many possibilities in this game. Was a mistake to ever have tek stuff in ark period.

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dino fights = fun, tek suit fights = boring

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If I want to fly around like crazy shooting people I will just go play quake

zealous pivot
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Tbh if someone takes a spot where tek turrets ain’t necessarily needed to make the base an easy raid they can make do a few days without them and just use the cs rep gen and trans n just run ele cave for ele

vapid blade
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Isn't conquest a throwback to OG ark before cave meta anyhow? I dont remember carchas in OG ark. Rhino countering was some fun shit back in the day

viral flame
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Yea you cant counter carcha osds with opposing ground dinos

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kind of lame

vapid blade
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Rhinos are easy to counter too if you know what your doing

solid vine
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Should honestly either ban or nerf car has just a boring dino overall

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much more on a no tek suit cluster where everyone will run around with dinos

empty sky
viral flame
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im an ex cs pro....

empty sky
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oh no listen ppl he played cs he must be good in every game

meager blaze
ancient lotus
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I don’t mind carchas being in either but should be banned for 48hrs

viral flame
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but anyways stay on topic again

split fulcrum
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why are dreadmare disabled? any explenation for that? xD

cerulean cradleBOT
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zealous pivot
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When y’all afd begginer servers and second chance servers don’t just do one map of ur planning on doing like 8 more of the same map change them about do center rag island extra maps not just the newest map constantly it gets boring having 8 rags by end of wipe but only 1m island or ext center etc

rough shuttle
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even an extinction

vivid gazelle
fickle frost
zealous pivot
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Server dying?

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Or is pop holding well

fickle frost
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pop is holding well

devout bobcat
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👑

modest bramble
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Fr

supple marlin
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Nice Looks like conquest does work. I hope you do another season after this. I cant play due to hollidays with my family. Realy Was looking forward and hoped conq to be succesfull so i can play season after this

charred elk
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Whos idea was it to put a limit to how many structures u can snap

fickle frost
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It was Lag's idea

cloud crest
charred elk
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Ong i cant build shit

charred elk
cloud crest
charred elk
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Put foundations down then relized i wasnt able to build anything else lmao

fickle frost
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Create a break

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It’s only for snapped structures together

vapid blade
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Conquest pvp been fun af. Not having carcha and tek suit has been a blast.

zealous pivot
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If ur smart with ur buikding the snap limit won’t affect u

empty sky
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Not teksiuts still the biggest Nonsenses imo

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The Deadzone Map is ACC Dead Purple Drops are impossible with 3 gigas because the Drop just breaks the Cave Drops are not even worth collecting the only 2 places to transfer out at are C4 Trapable terrible

rain wren
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Whos Idea was to limit structures on Paracer to 5 ? u cant even build a box for the rider....

charred elk
charred elk
vivid gazelle
zealous pivot
charred elk
keen dome
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is there a way they can go through and see who has what weapons/items? People are running with flamethrowers. I dont really mind them, just annoying others have them and you cant even make them

supple marlin
sage wadi
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Only tek turrets, trans and rep

zealous pivot
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Btw ik we said like no platform buikding but I feel like on zeplin it should be allowed like u can’t hatchframe raid stuff on them very well unless u build that badly and when your tryna raid a base on a plato with no land access or surrounded by water it’s impossible to do any sorta tek saddling soaking etc cos the other guys can just keep buikding lings higher each time you do meaning cos ur lower ur ling ends lower than those making it impossible to soak from ling or tek tape however with a zeplin (not a hard thing to counter) u can soak off it but u need structures to have some sorta saftey not 2 structures allowed

empty sky
supple marlin
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Well. I did several in other seasons. I dont think they made them harder. If they did i am wrong and appologize

empty sky
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didnt know deadzone was a thing in other szns just sybau do me this favour

supple marlin
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Sybau?

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Pretty Sure this purple osds are similar to the usual ones on ext

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What does sybau mean? Shut your big ass u? ....

ivory rivet
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Make tribute transferable or add cs tribute terminal

viral flame
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Just farm it on the map you need it. Takes 5 mins.

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Also giga purples is easy. You just go until it lets you stop which is like wave 7 or 8. There is no point to continue

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Use spring drakes for some healing.

grave sable
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this is prob gonna get shot down by all the griffin enthusiasts but, nerf griffins. give them like 30-50% less resistance. them mfs get 35k hp and take like 30 clips from a fabi to even get low. not to mention they can spam pick and bola through their body. whoever in wildcard though "hey lets make the already broken tame breedable this go around" is dumb asf. they are the only viable flier. mid-late game. was so much more fun the first 2 days of wipe before everyone and their grandma was going around on bred griffins.

modest basalt
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Conquest don’t feel like conquest with these incredibly boosted rates 🤷‍♂️

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Maybe I’m too use to official just the rates are insane, conquest is much more enjoyable when players and tames don’t have crazy weight and rates aren’t crazy high

topaz helm
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Tbh ryan i said originally that i wanted low rates but everyone said 15x minimum for some reason

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Initially i wanted 5x

cerulean mauve
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What do we generally say about conquest?

cerulean cradleBOT
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Hello! Generally, for conquest, it's mentioned that there are no custom caves, but custom pillars and floating islands will be added to maps. Also, conquest is described as having no cave building.
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cerulean mauve
# topaz helm Initially i wanted 5x

People here are generally against low rates, as everyone is used to having boosted rates. I generally wanted to have 10x on all clusters, because I feel like it would make things slightly smoother, but people were rather more like having higher rates rather than lower.

fickle frost
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It's great to start with lower rates. But then whatever your pop is, itll quickly die and very few new players will try to start days after. Because most feel low rates aren't worth it to catch up to those that are already established.

topaz helm
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vanilla aswell would be sick

upbeat granite
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Nah dont listen. This conquest has been a banger.

keen dome
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Yea Fr ^ feels like old ark again. No Tek Suit bobs

fickle frost
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The changes we made were definitely positive.

modest basalt
# topaz helm Initially i wanted 5x

5x would’ve been perfect just unofficial players are scared of low rates for some reason.
I’d personally argue 5x is quite boosted anyway

empty sky
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Go play official conquest than lmao wth

topaz helm
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if i had a 25 man or even a 10 man i wouldnt be playing 3 man

grave sable
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After all with 10 people It’d be to much of a steam roll on elite lol

cerulean mauve
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Idk how do you feel guys about this or whoever has experience with it, but this conquest we got fobbed few hours into wipe by chinese guys (who as it turned out didnt really play legit), who pulled up with tek gen, teleporter and bunch of heavies and then spent like 8 hours shooting out heavies with ballista (which seemed to be doing like 200 dmg per hit and was extremly expensive for them but they had infinite resources anyways). But what I wanted to say is that early on without cannon and only trike available, it was rather challenging to push the fob.

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Maybe simpler said - as much as attackers couldnt really push, the defenders cant really online push back properly, which can be annoying as you sometimes have to simply "live" with fob next to your base.

split fulcrum
cloud crest
modest bramble
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Yes

vapid blade
modest basalt
empty sky
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25 man is the Limit there is barely any tribes that have 25 man every szn i played i claimed a whole Server than you are just Not good enough to compete

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And I Play with a Group of 4

modest basalt
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Sorry I have a life?

grave sable
grave sable
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not that u would know anything about online raiding @empty sky you got a offlining reputation to uphold from what i hear

viral flame
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the whole deadzone seems to not be it

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can hit the osds and the crates/bosses give bad bps

zealous pivot
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Deadzone stuff rlu does need improving and Loot buffing so pop goes high on it when I’m on I can go over n be the only guy on it most times

empty sky
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tell me ur coords ill pull up rn

viral flame
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what al iar btw. The guy was online for max 5 mins

topaz helm
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"Online raid"

modest bramble
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😂

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But onlining with this settings is also crazy

grave sable
topaz helm
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tribe of brucejenner, solo/duo ice cave, racer bombed ur whole fortnite with a wild turret so u kept blowing ur own stuff up

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ur not gunna just fortnite sit and turret man again tho are u?

empty sky
topaz helm
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hahahahaha

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sure bro

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u fail raided my ice cave offline, u spent all day there then got fob rushed on island

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i doubt theres been another tribe of Axel

empty sky
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well also never raided on island

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so this is clear shittalk

topaz helm
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hahahahah mr ego man

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sure bud

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snow north base

grave sable
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The second anyone logs in you sit behind turrets

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And Fortnite until u end up quiting

upbeat granite
ancient lotus
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Lmao

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Shit too funny

vapid blade
upbeat granite
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Biggest problem with deadzone is osds take damage from your dinos. Huge oversight

grave sable
upbeat granite
viral flame
grave sable
upbeat granite
gleaming fiber
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if deadzone is meant for pvp, then drops shouldnt take dmg. thats just pve shit. we wanna fight over loot, not spyglass the drop every 30 seconds while a griffin picks us

zealous pivot
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Idk who’s idea it was to do conquest how u did it but it’s mind boggling u take away tek shit like rifles etc which I completely agree with for conquest without question…. However u then allow meks which is kinda crazy considering they insta heal with the drakeling meaning there’s no fast way to destroy them especially if they in turret range so next wipe everything exactly the same but don’t be putting meks in or atleaast tremendously increase the damage they take so there’s actually a chance to destroy them

austere rover
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It's so easy to destroy them... Meks can easily get weight grappled and then just use shotgun or ur own mek😅😅😅

empty sky
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Yh shotgun down a merk w 70k HP plus shield with a 298 Pump

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The weapon Cap and flak cap on Elite is just so questionable

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I Can Carrie 3 Flyers in my Kit and not die the whole szn bc no one will ever be able to pump down 60k hp wyvs

topaz helm
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the one time i can agree with axal, weapon cap definitely needs raising

zealous pivot
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And flak cap

devout bobcat
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i think for next conq tek suit should be allowed but literally 1 dura for transferring loot etc

empty sky
viral flame
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you dont need suits and everyones giant bases prove that

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so stop crying and man up

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also I have defended by base now 5 tiems in a row and meks are nothing.

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some you so called expert dont seem to know how to defend

upbeat granite
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How are meks an issue? They are so easy to kill lmao.

empty sky
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The comversations here just prove why asa is pve lmao

upbeat granite
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Says the offliner lmao

empty sky
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Cry?

grave sable
grave sable
# upbeat granite Except OSDs are meant to stream in creatures. Deadzone drops them all at once. Y...

It’s legit easier on deadzone because they all come basically at once. You can have every last one of them hitting the drop and they might do 2k damage by the time u kill them off. The only thing that actually does significant damage to the drop is your own tame. I have ran them with 2 giga and I’ve ran them alone. No problem what so ever. The best part is, I can finish them in like 5 minutes cause they all spawn at once and don’t get stuck on stupid shit.

viral flame
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we want loot and pvp not protractor action

zealous pivot
noble herald
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if they make osds not hitable on deadzone too i would run it there ngl but its annoying rn

grave sable
grave sable
# viral flame no one feels like making sure your giga is the perfect distance away from hittin...

imma be honest, it really isnt that hard. dont get me wrong, I wouldnt mind if they made them unable to take damage. but my point is that its not really all that big of a deal. the issue with making them not take damage is that in some instances they basically will never despawn so say its early game and you happen to only find purple drops instead of red... well your out of luck cause no dmg ones might not despawn even if you start them.

viral flame
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the ones in the deadzone are only purple

austere rover
supple marlin
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Is it a success? I participated but due to 3 weeks of hollidays i cant/couldnt play conquest at all. Will there be another season?

upbeat granite
supple marlin
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Does it feel different to like normal ark?

upbeat granite
supple marlin
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Sounds realy nice. Hopefully there will be another season

celest trellis
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I’d like to see a legacy type wipe like pre ase extinction type so none the new broken Dino’s just good ol fashioned ark

topaz helm
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Tbh trevor that was what i intially went for when i did this but i settled for conquest. Most people want modern ark

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Abb being the latest dlc

celest trellis
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Ya I think a old fashioned wipe would be fun as fuck

fickle frost
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next seasonis around the corner, keep up with the ideas

devout bobcat
grave sable
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Nahh

devout bobcat
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I have played the entire wipe actively and it needs it desperately

wheat mountain
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havent played conquest yet but id def like tek rifle back i didnt know how much id miss it on the duo cluster

grave sable
devout bobcat
topaz helm
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Thats kinda the point, you shouldnt be able to rush to destroy bases. Tek rifle is a cheesy method. Otherwise you have a tek saddle on the rex

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And tbh if you have ppl soaking on stegos you can push with a rex anyway

devout bobcat
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I have played all season most bases don’t work like that

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I can show u my base if u want and tell me how u gunna get rid of gens with dinos

violet hinge
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is there a way to do a delay on engrams?

devout bobcat
violet hinge
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but knowing ark doubt its that simple

fickle frost
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its possible

violet hinge
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Delaying tek rifle could be a solid solution, 96 hours maybe

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Prevents early game cheesing

fickle frost
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deadline for changes is tomorrow

meager blaze
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yall just ban anything bobs struggle with atp griffins pyros tek rifles stegos racers😭

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whats next? a trike 48 hour ban😭

violet hinge
split fulcrum
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Tames should be tamable but not ridable from the start ngl. On any cluster

violet hinge
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this is a thread for 3 man conquest, which already has tek rifle and suit disabled. I suggested changing that to a delay to satisfy both viewpoints

split fulcrum
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Tek rifle 3 day ban on conquest spunds valid. Just saying maybe allow taming stegos etc from start but disable saddles or mounting them for 48. Beginning with this conquest.

meager blaze
meager blaze
vapid blade
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Are carchas disabled again? Low key kind of fun without them

viral flame
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yea carchas are kind of lame.

zealous pivot
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Cave drops need buffing btw no way I’m getting apprentice bps from red drops in the hard caves

swift lynx
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you likely got a bad roll

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i buffed most of the dropso for this wipe

zealous pivot
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How did I get bad rolls in 7 drops

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They need buffing more to the point where ur getting at the lowest jm bps from boss caves like golem ice queen and stuff like hard uw etc not over capped bps or anything crazy but atleast stuff what’s useable

supple sinew
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This might be unpopular but conquest was not that fun this wipe

tiny dragon
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i think tbh its just dead cause school

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I live on astraeos highly recommend it, always 20-30 people

supple sinew
hardy sleet
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As well as raising taking forever, feels like normal conquest in that aspect xD

grave sable
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didnt even bother playing it with such high rate for a "conquest" server

fickle frost
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back to back conflicting opinions. Proof you just can't please everyone and just have to do the best we can to make it as fun as possible.

but school killed the wipe pop, first 2 weeks back

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supple sinew
fickle frost
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good thing we have 5 clusters

supple sinew
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Yea i enjoy all other clusters lol

noble herald
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Conquest still fun timing cant always be perfect

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Alot of bases still

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But yeah breeding could be a little higher but not much

vapid blade
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Is there an alpha prize for the current conquest?

devout bobcat
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If there’s not an announcement for it nope

heavy garnet
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why not just make conquest the same rates as other servers depending on if its solo/ solu duo, 3 man, etc just no building in caves?

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been wanting to play it but it being low rates puts me off

mint pike
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People still build in caves/ratholes. Last 3 man conquest no one build in the open but my tribe. It was sad to say the very least.

heavy garnet
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arent they made to be no build zones?

mint pike
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it didnt work that welll, people still found ways

grave sable
supple marlin
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is there any good reason why we have a 40k hp stego with good saddle at our cave 3h into wipe? That is just bullshit tbh. plz rethink that for the next wipe. 3h in and wipe is over for me, not even bothered to play a beginner

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how can you make stego, griffin ... tamable at start?

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on 3 man lt

slender heart
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Since they are with nitrado now they can’t have disabled tame, they would have to shut down every servers for every unban

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But yeah I agree with you that this need some balance

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#🔻asa-sub-announcement✅ message

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People will need to tame early thyla and more to counter early stego

hidden ibex
upbeat granite
hidden ibex
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just have to restart the server to re enable

fickle frost
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We had Dino’s taking 3x damage

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For the first 48 hours. So it’s easy turret meat

ripe ermine
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Yes pls

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Conquest strong asf wild asf great asf

slender heart
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Limite tek on top and pop speaking for itself

topaz helm
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its because no one gets raided after day 2 lmao

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all the custom caves arent cave dmg rn, only ppl that arent on get offlined. conq its alot easier to offline but alot more fun

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like the base push pvp is wayyyyy better

slender heart
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Yeah but conquest died in 2 days lol that’s the difference

topaz helm
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It died because ppl were getting raided lmao

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Limited tek is just cave sitting, barely anyone gets raided. And if u do its because ur offline

sour perch
topaz helm
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on day 1 or their base is ass

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most bases survive the whole wipe

supple marlin
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Will there be another conquest season? I had the most fun on conquest. Maybe make it 2 man or 4 man.

fickle frost
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yes we will make it again one day

supple marlin
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Would be nice and appreciated. Most fun server raiding wise

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Maybe make orp stronger. So more online raids

agile scarab
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more conquest

elder bloom
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Conquest season when? Game is so much more fun without rats in OP caves and ratholes

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EliteArk > snail games . Please give us hope

vivid gazelle
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Platform Dino only wipe. Base Dino is indestructible to weapons and dinos until flag destroyed. generators can only be placed on platform dinos and it has a 200m no enemy build radius around flag. Terrain turrets only for defense.

elder bloom
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👀

elder bloom
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🆙

supple marlin
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When will it come? Next year after the 3 man lt. Make it 4 man conquest this time and reduce the Rates a bit

topaz helm
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i think it should be a 5x 4 man and if your a 1 man it should be a 10x, on ase it had boosted rates depending on your tribe size which could be good but people could cheese it by farming in 1 mans so idk. could be voted

oak stump
vivid gazelle
supple marlin
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Just make it a usual conquest with some changes like Rates and bps lower

elder bloom
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All I want for Christmas is a conquest cluster for 2026

supple marlin
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Me too

jovial trellis
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Yea

elder bloom
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Would be nice to have a conquest cluster with admin support that do something no matter what the tribe name is.. No free pass for cheating Chinese tribes

modest bramble
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Lol

void summit
ashen bear
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Boost

elder bloom
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Conquest season + Less mods = Highest server pop

void summit
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so we’re lying

elder bloom
# void summit so we’re lying

Take a look at wildcard. They had arkpoc with a bunch of mods and pop was dying fast. Now they fixed arkpoc and got rid of all mods and pop is higher than eliteark…

void summit
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i’d rather not take a look

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too much work

elder bloom
void summit
elder bloom
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Bump

void summit
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no

spice nymph
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.

elder bloom
ashen bear
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Up

supple marlin
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Are there any Plans for a New conquest season any time soon?

elder bloom
fickle frost
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yes, likely spring break week

noble herald
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Lets gooooo

supple marlin
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ok, no idea what or when spring break week is? sounds like may or june?

static beacon
supple marlin
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Damn it thats late

elder bloom
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Usually sometime in March

edgy estuary
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Beo 260 people agree with it
Why tf they dont do this

violet hinge
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We have done it like 7 times hahaha

fickle frost
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We have done this before, but its not a cluster that can be done all the time, its a specialty thing

supple marlin
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Make it harder. Lower Rates, shittier bps

elder bloom
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Something that would last 2-3 months is ideal

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Actual skill required not just clicking a discord bot and bosses are done

violet hinge
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It’s hard to last 2 months when people get wiped first week due to having to build an open world base

supple marlin
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Yeah. Reduce Quality of drops. For saddles or all of the Main bps

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Lower taming Rates...

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And the other usuall stuff. Ban soakers for the first 2 or 3 days, except trikes

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No Plattform saddles or at least no Boxed in stuff

topaz helm
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thats what i wanted but then they added raising in cryos, propergators and higher rates. basically the opposite

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mass raising with no effort is what gets ppl raided

upbeat granite
edgy estuary
supple marlin
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Yeah ofc i meant not tamable for the first 2 days ofc

elder bloom
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Make it not boosted so the first few hours of wipe is literally focusing on getting level 100. Then drops not boosted af so everything takes time and effort to grind. That’s how clusters last several months

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Get rid of the 100 dino levels as well

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Slowly leveling your dinos so they don’t instantly have max health

supple marlin
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Exactly

supple marlin
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Up

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Give me another conquest season. 3 or 4 man plz.

latent zinc
supple marlin
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I dont play servers without Transfer tool i value my spare time

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And i am definetly not your brahhhhh

latent zinc
latent zinc
supple marlin
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So. This Suggestion has 266 Upvotes. To me it seems like a legit question. And as i said. I am not your bro

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And for now. Elite is one of the best if not the best cluster on asa with settings i do like. Maybe slow down a bit on Rates and drop boosts for conquest.
I just ask myself why do you even care. Obv you dont want to play it. So why would you comment here?

sudden orchid
edgy estuary
latent zinc
supple marlin
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Ah nvm. Lets see what happens. I just would like to see a cluster a bit slowed down and not just ratholes beeing build. The open World kind of raids where u actually have to push foundations and raid were a hell of a fun time

viral flame
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they dont want to do it because the whole rat hole thing is too much effort to police. Although I would happily be 24/7 rat hole police.

oak stump
elder bloom
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Just poof them out of existence

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Throw the warning up in MOTD so it can be seen every time someone joins the server

rigid solar
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With wipes every 6 months or no wipes period with 5x to 7x farming rate all around

slender heart
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Wipes every 6 months is impossible if you want good pop, Especially on an only open world base server

zealous pivot
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Can we not add an actually good element cave like they have on INX and mess ase where it’s actually possible to farm out more than 100 ele that barely respawns, it’ll create PvP too so it isn’t exactly easy but atleast it’s worth the risk of dying

sudden orchid
zealous pivot
# sudden orchid Not a bad idea

Fr 100ish ele from a resource cave that hardly respawns and it does whoever’s got a tp outside it just claims it instantly atleast if it’s a big cave with like 3-4k harvestable ele inside that respawns fast then its worth it

supple marlin
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When will be the next conquest wipe? Asking for a friend

noble herald
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ronnie sayed around spring break

supple marlin
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Ok spring break is roughly when? Easter?

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I see somewhat march april

violet hinge
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Late March early April is typical spring break so it will likely be next 3 man or the 3man after that

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But that’s just a guess

supple marlin
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would be very nice

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thx for the info

supple marlin
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Remove the 100x 3man and make it a 4 man conquest

oak stump
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4 man would be fire

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4 man anything would be fire

final relic
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I believe they suggested this may be in the works soon

void pelican
supple marlin
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Thats not conquest

supple marlin
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why is the 4 man low rates not conquest? that would be very vewry nice

oak stump
supple marlin
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That is not close enough. That is a normal rate cluster with some mods removed. Its definetly right direction but not yet where it could be

royal summit
supple marlin
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No

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Why do you ask?

molten apex
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even conquest allows caves

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u just cant not have caves, plus enforcing it is to difficult

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this cluster is the way

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4man low rates

supple marlin
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Well i played 2 seasons without cave building. It worked. Was fun. 1 season had some issues with restricted dinos.... but yeah i enjoyed it.

cerulean mauve
supple marlin
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🙂

royal summit
supple marlin
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Horrible decision to give tames 100 lvl