#Create a old fashioned cluster (Conquest)

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blissful rapids
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Since the tame, can’t take most of the hits

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Due to prim tek saddle

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Nor can you just over run a base with tapi

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Also gives players a better way to deal with 90 capped tek turrets destroying your player

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Where is your change list?

violet hinge
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We did a poll didn’t we

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About tek turrets

blissful rapids
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Yea for them to be enabled

blissful rapids
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Even a gen took about 30 grenades

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Then the tek spam you never would get to the base if they online

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Due to tek spam only having little ways to break

cosmic osprey
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If you throw no teks in now with how settings are it would be worse then first attempt

blissful rapids
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Due to you can actually raid a little easier instead of fighting carpet tek spam

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Even a mek doesn’t really help on that

blissful rapids
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I got to review but can’t find

cosmic osprey
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I can’t find it now it was weeks ago. Guess it got deleted not sure.
I’ll remake one once it’s announced this is deff going again and not limited tek.
But some quick things were adjusting what’s in shop,soaker delays,ext tames/settings and revisiting tek and turret settings

blissful rapids
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I wouldn’t even mind helping on a single player testing

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I can host dedicated I have 3 PCs

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1 week of testing would be suffice I’d think @cosmic osprey

molten apex
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As i said earlier conquest needs to be changed the a vanilla + qol cluster, no caves and no ratholes ruins pop

blissful rapids
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Killed the pop

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Plus any big base with teks you had no way to remove the tek dps

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Yea tek grenades but it would take a long time

cosmic osprey
charred elk
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Hear me out take artifacts and tributes out of the drops and have them farmed the old fashion way.

cosmic osprey
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I’m for it.
Or at the very least take 1 of the 2 out.

blissful rapids
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And vip kits

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That’s another thing you would have to think about if removing tributes in drops, along with, what will replace them in the drops

molten apex
charred elk
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If its like conquest then you can get the artifacts outa caves because you canf build in caves

blissful rapids
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Conquest changes.
3man reverted to limited tek.

Tribe Limit:
-4man

Rates:
kept same, but double player XP

Player Stats:
Kept same but added player speed.
Player speed would allow for better pvp and changes on character builds. Instead of full HP.

Custom edits:

-add new pillars to island, keep ext wasteland building edits, add plateaus to scoreched.
-Cave Edits (No Element Caves) (scorched staying)

Temp Ban 48 hours.
-Stegos
-Manas
-Gasbags
-Golems

Temp Ban Day 7 or perm
-Titans

Perm banned:
pyromanes
tesla coils
Flame throwers

Dino Changes: 2 Dinos of Season Herbivore and Carnivore

-Reaper 1.5x Dmg
-Rhino 2x Dmg
-Theri 1.5 Dmg

-Carbo 1.3 Resistance
-Stegos 1.2 Resistance
-Trike 1.5 Resistance
-Racer 1.5 Resistance
-Reaper 1.15 Resistance
-Theri 1.10 Resistance

Custom Spawns:
-Increase Spawns of Maeguanas, Manas

Tek turrets Enabled
Tek saddle enabled (Primitive only) not in drops
Water compartments added back

No caves, No ratholes
No dino gates on dinos

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Of course if a Dino is already buffed to this, no need to buff it

cosmic osprey
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Everyone will build underwater bases with compartments back not very conquest like
Imo

blissful rapids
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So maybe add Rafts cause it was an island

blissful rapids
cosmic osprey
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There’s a few spots like that where there is tall rocks in the water you can build a base on.

Without rafts they are half solid for an outside base.

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I don’t think they’ll ever allow rafts. However with no cave building it would make slightly more sense on here but people will still mesh with them wherever they can hahaha

blissful rapids
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Yeah that’s why I said add rafts to help fob islands mainly

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Besides for that no other use

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But Teleporters should stay but if that causes the meshing then no rafts

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But other than that, I don’t see any other changes that would make a huge difference

cosmic osprey
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I would ban most soakers longer than 48hr imo.
More people will quit due to being wiped early on then quitting cuz they can’t have op soakers first few days

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People can still soak with trikes and stuff if they want.
But prob the ones you listed for 2 days I would extend.
Ya some people have tek day 2 but on this server a majority won’t

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And would perm ban titans imo. Noones gonna not play cuz there’s no titans

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I’m for player speed.
Without caves this is the perfect place to try it.

I would not run limited tek side by side with this.
This will 100% be dead again, there’s not enough people who want a more hardcore server like this with a limited tek running so would keep this 3man imo. Theres already too many clusters going on.
Remove 100x and make it a 7 man limited tek if anything

blissful rapids
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Also the cluster I’d say trying this for 4man is to push towards seeing how a higher tribe limit changes the play

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Have it in between 5man and 3 man

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Then later try it as the next 5man while limited Is going

cosmic osprey
blissful rapids
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Not early on, cause they just don’t soak enough

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Trike u get shot off and racer good luck getting the saddle or enough imprinted early on

topaz helm
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the whole point of this cluster was no caves or ratholes and it was voted to be not tek but anyway the gasbag rush is what ruined it. pvp was 10x better then limited tek and it was a slower cluster. limited tek is basically the same as a normal cluster anyway. i dont think the no tek suit is worth a whole new cluster for. might aswell stick to the original server votes instead of conq

blissful rapids
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That’s why prim tek saddles solve the tek issue and the ban for tames should give players more time

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Note many others are on board with most of those changes but the speed was just another change since conquest you would just pump up HP and weight, so allowing speed on players would change up the pvp specially when bolas are faster and more accurate than ASE

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Note, also tek turrets stop gasbags depending on the build

cosmic osprey
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You really don’t need tek turrets tho.
You just need to make another changes basing it around heavies.

blissful rapids
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Just fully remove gasbags and golems then

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Then no tek turrets may work

cosmic osprey
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Still would need some other minor changes but yeah golems being the main concern.

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But it’s a dead topic they said they won’t do it

blissful rapids
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Yeah which that’s ok, we can’t have everything but we can have somethings

blissful rapids
blissful rapids
# blissful rapids

@cosmic osprey now we can vote on this and we can pin them and go from there

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We need progress for conquest to work

cosmic osprey
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Still wish we got an answer that’s it’s definite happening right now not in 2 months

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Cuz game will be diff in 2 months

blissful rapids
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That would be very helpful for sure @royal summit think you can help us with that?

royal summit
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im focused on 5man rn

blissful rapids
cosmic osprey
upbeat granite
jaunty halo
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Well

upbeat granite
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Why TaterTot change his name to MachoManSnake lmao

cosmic osprey
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I was forced

royal summit
blissful rapids
cosmic osprey
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Still no answer on if this is coming back after wipe or if it will be limited tek first.

upbeat granite
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Yeah ill take either one tbh. I cannot stand tek suit pvp. Its so boring. But I prefer the conquest.

fickle frost
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still looking to bring back caves and rat holes

upbeat granite
# fickle frost still looking to bring back caves and rat holes

Thats unfortunate but I get it. I imagine it takes a lot of extra moderation. Literally half the playerbase was breaking the rule and a lot of the big bases where borderline caves anyways. Conq has been down a few days now. Is there a timeframe or any hint at whats coming next to take its place?

blissful rapids
fickle frost
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Moderation wasnt the real issue tbh

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my staff kinda nailed it there

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but players simply love their caves

blissful rapids
upbeat granite
cosmic osprey
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Just run limited tek at that point tbh.
If you run this with caves and ratholes ur losing a lot of people who wanted the og server ontop of people who want limited tek back not this.
Run that or this but I don’t see the point in mixing the 2.

The ONLY wave allowing caves “might” work is if you remove tek which you stated you aren’t.
If people can tp in and out of caves and all it defeats the purpose.
The only chance it works is if living in a cave is a hassle and not supper efficient.

upbeat granite
late grove
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Praying every day they bring back 3 man limited tek 🙏

topaz helm
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they only didnt like it because they got raided, how does 15 votes beat 150 is beyond me. i was told we were gunna do at least one more with the correct settings. all this was a waste of time because no one listened and decided to copy official instead of listening

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some ppl put a ton of hours into this suggestion to get ignored

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if caves are a thing then there shouldnt be any tek

grave sable
# fickle frost but players simply love their caves

what do you mean, there were so many bases the first week of the wipe, issue is gasbags didnt have a day 1 ban so anyone that didnt get tek turrets got wiped instantly, i speak from experience conidering second day of the wipe my tribe went though and raided just about any base without teks on scorched earth regardless of them being online or offline. loads of bases around the map even after that. even after the population fell off there were tons of bases remaining but everyone had capped tek turrets while there were no tek saddles AKA the only realistic counter to tek turrets. since 1 bossfight caps like 50 tek turrets. which was the reason my tribe ended up quiting in the long run as online raiding was unrealistic under these conditions.

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the server just needed adjustment, in terms of pvp this was among the most enjoyable wipe with no tek suits and tons of bases out in the open

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something else you could do to make the wipes last longer is increase orp even more for conquest as bases in the open are all onlinable. if ppl wouldnt get offlined for the most part then the wipe would last a while.

topaz helm
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^ Also scorched had a op ele cave, where wed farm about 1.6k ele a run where as every other server didnt. ele farm should be hard and all suggestions should of been used or considered. not completely ignored

blissful rapids
dense ice
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When next conquest wipe?????

cosmic osprey
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Agree with basically everything Cole and Wookiee said.

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You said it was like 95% of what people wanted this season
Which I personally don’t agree with at all. Most of us tend to think more like 60% of what we wanted.
And doing those changes only makes it less of what people wanted.
The 2 main points of this were no caves and no tek. We had 1 now we’re gonna have both defeats the whole purpose.

blissful rapids
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Conquest would need custom spots made tbh if not having caves and ratholes

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Mainly to support larger bases, like Rag would be perfect

cosmic osprey
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I actually think it’s good now because most players on even playing field. Not many op spots

blissful rapids
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As some bases couldnt only prop breed

blissful rapids
# blissful rapids
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Allow Tek Saddles (primitive only) for conquest.

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12

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12

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1

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Yes

fickle frost
late grove
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I could kiss you

cosmic osprey
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So this is going back to LT and no conquest this wipe?

blissful rapids
blissful rapids
topaz helm
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Literally barely anyone has asked for limited tek. Idk why its reverting

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Everyone said the admins messed up conq. And it was said next time would be better

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But 15 ppl on a suggestion wins i guess

violet hinge
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I also don’t think limited tek will be nearly as fun or popping as it once was without major changes to movement

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Mana and maegauna it’ll be more like limited PvP in my opinion

cosmic osprey
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I really don’t see tek rifle and tek chest as a big factor anymore with ext and aestros maps out now.
So it’s basically just another 15x.

Conquest will now come back probably after Rag if at all so no sense in making suggestion right now as the game will Totally change again with that.

topaz helm
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yeah i cba playing the game in the current meta, maybe if they keep conq il play but the cave pvp is soo repetitive and boring now. all the new players only know that and want it for some reason

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mainly new ppl that cant hold an open base or ppl that can but get offlined day 1 by gasbags which were mentioned multiple times before hand

jaunty halo
jaunty halo
topaz helm
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Scorch also was one of the highest pop maps as the island does have as many good spots as scorch. Pvp constantly. Just newer ppl want limited tek

supple marlin
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Keep it old fashioned as it was planned with some adjustments, mainly soakers first 48/72 hours Banned like all of them except trike. Reduce OPeness of lootboxes (buyable) or maybe delay them. Allthough its not the Main Issue no Caves or ratholes buildable. Rest is totally fine in my opinion

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Maybe make orp a bit stronger in the first 48/72 h.

jaunty halo
supple marlin
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Why?

woven fjord
woven fjord
woven fjord
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Well, folks, looks like we need to work harder if we want the conquest server that we are looking for or requesting.
Per Ronnie, a measly "15 votes isnt enough" to make decisions. But to me, it looks like some staff members who dont play the game on a competitive level get more input as every single setting wasnt voted on.
So who, if we here didnt vote on it, and it wasnt an Official EA vote like Ronnie did for Conquest, then who decides everything else?

If we want this to work, I feel like there 100% needs to be a voice discussion on this topic, not just delayed opinions in a thread.
Where we go through every single item and provide the pros and cons of everything that needs to change for Conquest to work as previously imagined.
Sure, the "15 who voted" may not be the majority of people who will play, but those ~15 are the ones who worked to make it happen. Not the other 650 who voted on the poll a few days before wipe.

blissful rapids
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Suggestions do get overlooked by players aswell

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Many get too busy playing

charred elk
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Take tributes and artifacts outa drops and then setting the drops back to normal, then adding custom pilliars or cliff ledges would make conquest 1000x better

cosmic osprey
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Rip conquest 2025-2025

charred elk
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Tbh if ronnie wanted to go all out for conquest take out starter kits

fickle frost
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We cannot poll for every single setting. Thats 1000+ polls

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Conquest isnt dead. It wasnt a failure. It had 600+ pop on wipe day. But things need to be adjusted. That goes for every wipe, every season. You guys are taking offense and getting salty for no reason. Instead take that energy and come up with changes and ideas to make it better.

charred elk
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Bring me onto the team ill get conquest popping

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The problem last time was shit was still moving way to fast

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We had tek in the first 4-5 hrs, make the drops normal again and add custom pilliars and cliffs and that would make conquest 1000x times better

blissful rapids
charred elk
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Not if you have to farm tributes and get artifacts from caves

charred elk
woven fjord
blissful rapids
# charred elk If that wasnt the problem then what was?

Maybe people getting wiped by titans and gasbags day 1-5, tek turrets only being broken by tek grenades. Not too many big platforms or pillars for bases.

Custom base spots are needed for some maps but not all.

I suggested prim tek saddles added if there are tek turrets.

The farming rates were fine, we didn’t run into many bases with capped turrets, not even capped teks, only some tribes had them like that.

Titans need to be fully disabled or 5 day ban.

Gasbags 48 ban like stegos and golems

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Day 1 we got forest titan and raided many bases no issues.

Farming tributes won’t stop us from getting tek, many know how to get what they need and fast, it’s just the way some players are.

Some other players just don’t have much experience with doing the raiding that conquest had. Aka ramping up to bases, pushing Fortnites, however in conquest you couldn’t ramp to some bases due to the height limit for building.

Yes there’s a height limit.

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Again I’ll say it, I’ll help create settings, I’ll even help with a test server. Using a dedicated server, just lmk.

royal summit
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I agree. Ban gabags for 48h and make custom plateaus

molten apex
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i whole heartedly people will play a hardcore cluster, howevr it should not be conquest, rather a vanilla plus cluster, with tools similar to a server that ran ase in its prime which name i shall not say, caves need to be allowed, rathole need to be allowed (with exceptions obv), they allow tribes to progress and keep people in the game longer, it is something that no cluster has tried to replicate for a while.

People need to grind for bps, grind for levels, and get rewarded for doing so, part of the fun is grinding for bps and having an advantage over other tribes, all cluster now do the same thing fast paced wipe, everyone has insta capped and pay to win, dono should be blocked for 2-3 days, except points and vip memberships, plus whitelist if its a thing on asa, i understand it needs to be profitable but i beleive its doable, and if pop retains long enough donos will be open.

It sets apart from smalls because it wipes fresh and gives everyone a chance, no 1500% melee gigas and 100k hp carbos. I believe that if done correctly it can be very successful, it should likely be 4-5 man as it seems that is the recipe for high pop, many tribes with different base spots have 5 members i mean 14 tribes on a server is 70 players, on some maps it is easy for big tribes to stay afloat, especially with edits. What makes early game PvP enjoyable is not old school Ark, but rather the difficulty and slow progression, of the game. Prolonging early game by making it harder to advance to tek makes the game more fun (In my opinion), but the key is to make it enjoyable so more casual players enjoy it to, hence QOL and slightly boosted rates

Tribe Limit:
-4/5man (4-6 Hour Cooldown)

Rates:
-5x Harvest (10x Weekend)
-5x Experience (10x Weekend)
-5x Taming (10x Weekend)
-5x Breeding (7.5x Weekend)
-5x Dino Experience (10x Weekend)
-100% imprint

Player Stats:
1.5x Weight
1x Health
1x Oxygen
5x Fortitude
0.5x Melee

QOL Mods:
-Omni Tool
-CS (No refining forges)
-Cave Edits (No Element Caves)
-Pelayori Crypods
-Awesome Spyglass
-Shop Mod (Kibble, Boss Tributes and Artifacts only)

Temp Ban Day 1:
-Stegos
-Manas
-Carchar
-Pyromanes
-Gasbags

Temp Ban Day 7:
-Titans

Dino Changes: 2 Dinos of Season Herbivore and Carnivore

-Spinos 2x Dmg
-Reaper 1.5x Dmg
-Rhino 2x Dmg
-Theri 1.5 Dmg

-Carbo 1.3 Resistance
-Stegos 1.2 Resistance
-Trike 1.5 Resistance
-Racer 1.5 Resistance
-Reaper 1.15 Resistance
-Theri 1.10 Resistance
-Pyromanes 0.7 Resistance

Custom Spawns:
-Increase Spawns of Maeguanas, Manas

blissful rapids
blissful rapids
cosmic osprey
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Also I’m not salty about conquest at all.
Once I saw the settings I knew exactly what would happen so I didn’t play at wipe time and barely played later.
It’s hard to make suggestions again when in the end it’ll come down to 100x players voting on official polls that have been playing ark for 2 years and change what it should be.
Also at this point we’ll probably have rag and tons of other new stuff by the time conquest gets ran again so pointless to discuss much right now.

fickle frost
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We had 500+ on wipe day. That means 150+ base locations are needed

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But to be honest, I’d like to hear more from people that played on wipe day and the week of. Not those that read the settings.

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The main issues I heard over and over were gasbags. Not a list of 1000 things.

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That and base locations are needed

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Just tons of pillar bases need to be added

old trench
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I mean a couple will be enough not 100+

fickle frost
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I wouldn’t do any less than 50 if we were to launch again

old trench
fickle frost
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It’s not hard. Just time consuming

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Definitely possible

old trench
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Pillars*

charred elk
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Another thing that could make it fun would be taking out the starter kits

fickle frost
fickle frost
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after 5 hours the better starter kits are enabled, but that is 5 hours

cosmic osprey
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You want feedback on an og server idea from people who their og ark is genesis 2 and Asa? Goodluck

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Funny you don’t want input from the people who only read settings.
Yet that person was the only person saying gasbags and titans would be an issue before the server happened, and look what was an issue.

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You only heard of gasbags? Cuz everyone quit then why wiped them off the server in a few hours.
Fix gasbags and have the next issue kill the cluster again in a day in that case.

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Oh wait I forgot I didn’t play wipe day you didn’t wanna hear that my bad goodluck

fickle frost
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Changed his name and discord deleted his account? Sus?

woven fjord
woven fjord
woven fjord
# blissful rapids Yeah, What i said was the main issue besides also the lvling dinos.

Leveling/breeding should be slow. If it feels too slow then base progression should be slowed further.
I have mentioned possible ways to do that:

  1. Decrease individual resource multiplier for poly/pearls.
  2. Increase cost of ammo
  3. Increase turret costs

But personally, 4hr cooldown is too fast. I believe they were voted to be 4-8 hours which I think is still too fast.
I'm personally okay with growth being faster as long as cooldown is slower.

blissful rapids
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That is the slowing down that really was there, now also having no tek forge, or labratory on the conquest settings did make it a little harder for capped turrets, yes we still capped them but it did cause it to take more time than traditional maps

woven fjord
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I do believe the cooldown is more important that male growth period but growth period affects "mass" growth pods too

fickle frost
woven fjord
fickle frost
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Ok cool we will set something up

charred elk
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Yo can we have a vote on wipe times

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Weekends should be whenever and weekdays should be like around 5

woven fjord
violet hinge
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It would need a good boost if breeding cooldown is longer

woven fjord
# violet hinge Growth was a massive complaint though

Why was it a complaint? Because those players didn't understand that it was a slower paced server. But like I said, breeding and base progression needs to be balanced so it doesnt feel like you can breed enough vs base growth.

But In terms of growth and "large" dinos, even now on 5 man, Gigas still take what? 12-14 hours? Unfortunately, you cannot individually reduce growth speeds but stegos/turtles I feel should take 5-7 hours to raise personally for this style of server. Not sure what that time results in for the setting though. But that is like 2-3x longer than current which would then make gigas take 1 - 2 days to grow.

violet hinge
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Sure I mean you can say it’s cause they didn’t understand it was a slower pace server but the slow pace didnt match the player base, almost every person I’ve talked to has said the same thing about growth

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On 5man turtles take like an hour which is crazy fast lol

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But turtles are also really bad now

woven fjord
violet hinge
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Carchas take about 7 and a half hours on 5man

woven fjord
violet hinge
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It got bugged

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Buffed

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It’s 10x harvest 30x breeding

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Used to be 25x or 20x

woven fjord
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Turtles last wipe only took about an hour though

violet hinge
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They may take less

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I threw 400 turtle eggs last night

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Went to piss

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They were at 30%

woven fjord
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Thats one long piss

violet hinge
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That’s an exaggeration

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But damn

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Too bad they are cheeks now

woven fjord
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Yeah thats definitely too fast for conquest lol

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i mean dropping 200 on a turret wall is fun

violet hinge
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They still take head damage

woven fjord
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yeah the first few will die but if you can whistle them to come back they turn around

violet hinge
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It’s just not even worth to do turtles instead of tek stegs

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Our saddle bp is the same cost

woven fjord
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Anyway back to conquest, i offered suggestions to reduce base progression speed. Theres other ways too.

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But I think that would be better than making breeding far too fast.

violet hinge
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It Dosent have to be 5man breeding

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But shouldn’t be what it was

woven fjord
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I just dont want to nerf/buff too much like how much they nerfed on 5man with ORP nerf, turret count nerf AND no tesla

violet hinge
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People need tames to play

woven fjord
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Yeah, it would be great if you could change dinos individually.

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but would need to be modded in

violet hinge
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No chance that’s a setting

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Would be nice to mess with individual donos

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Dinos

woven fjord
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nah unfortunately not, only "individual" setting is resources harvest

violet hinge
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Mhmmm not entirely true

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We can edit stats and other things

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Like resistance and damage etc

woven fjord
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Oh true, forgot about stats. woops

blissful rapids
woven fjord
blissful rapids
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what maps do u think need the most? prob island, and scorched

woven fjord
blissful rapids
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yeah i mean we know rag even on ASE state has many alpha spots

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for just plateus

woven fjord
woven fjord
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I mean I still believe Extinction should just be removed and tek dinos be added to the other map spawns personally.
Especially if Astraeos has its own "OSDs"

blissful rapids
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as ext is free and astre isnt

woven fjord
blissful rapids
woven fjord
blissful rapids
woven fjord
blissful rapids
blissful rapids
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Ab it would have to be on surface

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Which would make much harder to do but also need to block building in entrances

woven fjord
blissful rapids
woven fjord
blissful rapids
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but yeah, and gasbags maybe in green like portal but limited spawns when they do get enabled

woven fjord
blissful rapids
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only cause they op on conquest

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better than golems

woven fjord
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I mean with the ban, they could get a damage debuff too

blissful rapids
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Ive been wokring with the epic games dev kit so should be able to create some good spots eventually

blissful rapids
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dont remmeber where it caps tho

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or if it even does

violet hinge
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they are disabled cause they break fps

blissful rapids
supple marlin
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Hey guys, is the limited tek cluster now replacing the conquest? or is this 2 diferent pair of shoes?

supple marlin
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Ah ok. Thats a shame

woven fjord
topaz helm
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its annoying that they gave up on this, would of been a good cluster if they did it how it was discussed

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one attempt isnt good enough for it

supple marlin
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i hope they try it again tbh would be nice to have a 2nd chance

fickle frost
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No one gave up on this

old trench
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thats the reason why my tribe quit

supple marlin
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Hey ronnie i realy hope u can realize that Cluster. Would be great. Make it a 3 man and then we all will have a lot of fun

high cradle
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no lootboxes at all only some vip benefits. or delay lootboxes for 48hrs, is destroying the "old fashioned" cluster

supple marlin
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Yeah delay. But after all they need to earn Money. This shit is not for free. Maybe lower Quality of drops so lootcrates are more interesting after 48h

chilly olive
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realistically the concept of tek turrets with no tek saddles is hard too

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maybe just tape saddle but hard cap at 45 with no bps and don’t add rex or any other tek saddles

viral flame
supple marlin
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No idea what you mean.

supple sinew
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I thought they already made one it just went to shit

supple marlin
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they wanted to give it a 2nd try

rugged wharf
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Wicked idea 👌

supple sinew
supple marlin
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Well atm i dont See it Happen. They announced another limited tek season. I Was hoping for a conquest season instead of limited tek.

fickle frost
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It will return

supple marlin
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Love to See that. Question is when will it return? Like roughly

royal summit
#

Hard to ever schedule specifics since our plans are dependent on how current wipes hold pop. Follow #🟢next-wipes channel

supple marlin
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I understand that. My question is, will it replace some other server or be a new Cluster/Option?

fickle frost
supple marlin
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Sounds good

graceful basin
#

I long for this as well. My first/best experience was on an official beginner pvp server as some others have said. I've seen lots of mention of the gather rates and specific dinos, but what about taming and breeding times and cryopods. part of why people made those big outside bases is you had to garage your 300 tames and defend them. you also had to march an army over to someones giant base to attack.

charred elk
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If they wanna make conquest go crazy a 4 man would be lit and then adding things like custom cliff ledges would make it a lot funner

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And if you really wanted to yoh can balance out the ledges by making them 3x

vagrant zealot
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3man was perfect for it, didn’t progress crazy fast but still had to know what your doing

supple marlin
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I still hope they go for it. 3 or 4 man is both good

charred elk
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4 man would def be the best u could lower rates lower breeding lower xp that way you dont have to deal with tek base day 1

viral flame
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4 man is dumb for people like me who only know 1 other person. There are a lot of people like me.

violet hinge
#

That implies that 2 people can’t survive on a 4 man server honestly, if you do everything together most of the time the people that are playing 4 men aren’t doing everything together

viral flame
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Its a disadvantage no matter how you try to swing it. More people is just better so why would I play on a 4-5 man server as a 2 man.

violet hinge
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more people is not better if terry keeps losing all the big groups gear

balmy fulcrum
#

People just love to cry and complain.

woven fjord
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Still think all tribe limits should be tested after the main settings are balanced. But the balancing will take time.

cerulean mauve
supple marlin
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So another limited tek season and no conquest?

fickle frost
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conquest takes a long time to set up, and with the unknowns of ragnarok issues, its best we wait til the dust clears first.

Like i stated before, conquest WILL return

charred elk
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Making a more vanilla style of conquest would def make it alot funer

chilly olive
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i don’t even think it should be limited tek or if it is only no tek suit because the no tek saddles was so fucking stupid i had 50 capped teks down day 1 and its just impossible to do anything to

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but do not remove tek suit unless sinomocrops is added because building land bases with no suit id rather do a backflip off a bridge

charred elk
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Also keep vanilla forges and stuff like that just so people dont have fully built base on day 1

chilly olive
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if it’s a 5x all that would be reduced

woven fjord
chilly olive
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teks aren’t a problem with tek saddles

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you are trying to frame this as a classic server which is only suitable for official network

woven fjord
chilly olive
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ASE conquest wasn’t limited tek

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this needs to be official conquest with QoL mods and long wipes

woven fjord
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When I say old ASE I mean pre flyer nerf is what I think about.

chilly olive
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fuck no never bring flyer speed back into this game

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that was only good change since legacy

woven fjord
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easy to have an idea if you played back then

charred elk
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Need battle questzals that shit was lit

chilly olive
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your never going to get that experience and get a playerbase for it on this game, there is an interesting development for that kind of server coming out of hamilton and some other mt//s devs on ASE but i don’t think this server is the place for that because it requires hella custom modding

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this should be CS+ official conquest settings with 5x rates just like regular

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and maybe 7.5x weekends or something would be nice

woven fjord
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And the server does need massive modifications to make open world bases just ran through. The whole point was to get rid of cave meta bc it gets boring after awhile.

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Not saying youre not entitled to your opinion but thats what people wanted when the server was first discussed. But also a lot of those people are gone now or arent active on here.

chilly olive
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the most populated pvp cluster on ark rn is official conquest

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its a great player experience with active dev support unlike rest of ark and theres a clear pathway to including qol mods and getting huge amounts of pop because of it

woven fjord
chilly olive
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it died fast as

woven fjord
woven fjord
chilly olive
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if you want to play pvp casually go play 1x that’s what i do

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i quit most recently for about 6 months and came back servers perfectly fine personals intact it’s a much more casual experience

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you can’t have high rates and casual long lasting players

woven fjord
woven fjord
torn scaffold
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How have I only seen this suggestion once, this is a banger idea

sharp jolt
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Make people have to farm the proper boss fight

woven fjord
jaunty halo
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this is a bump.

What about making a 5 man limited Tek?

supple marlin
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The idea if a conquest Server with low Rates is great. If you want a 5 man lt, just suggest it. Nothing to do with conquest i my opinion

violet hinge
#

Btw conquest got announced again

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Next month

supple marlin
#

Where is the announcement?

cerulean cradleBOT
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supple marlin
#

Plz Tell me its going to be a Regular season. I am off to hollidays by the 8 of August for 3 weeks 🤣 and i am realy looking forward. I was hoping conquest will come back in july

vagrant zealot
fickle frost
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What are the top 10 changes for conquest you guys would like to see

supple marlin
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No cave building. Tek like in limited tek. Lower Rates. No laboratory. Banned dinos for 48 or 72h -> Rockele stego gasbag gryf pyro Well, the usual ones if i forget 1, no ressource caves

gleaming fiber
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no ones playing without caves.

vagrant zealot
gleaming fiber
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i know it is but realistically i just dont see anyone wanting to play with no caves

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maybe if we had no gate racers, and that giant hatchframe mod land bases would be more appealing

vagrant zealot
supple marlin
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Reduced bp Quality but rising over time

vagrant zealot
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Have lootboxes locked for first 12 hours as progression is slower

gleaming fiber
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remove custom caves, and add custom land spots

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or custom pillars. spots similar to rag spiral

supple marlin
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Add sinomacrops, if possible

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Remove all Taming kits

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Make bosses harder.
Make it a 4 or 5 man Cluster

supple marlin
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Maybe higher Rates for smaller tribes. 5/4 man 5x 3/2 man 10x solo 15x or something like that

topaz helm
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Yeah I agree with that, I think a 6 man 5x would be perfect. 3 man is also good and should be a 7x. It should be a popularity vote with rates and tribe members. I do think lower rates still with conq as we want it to last as long as possible

supple marlin
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Well my Suggestion was that you have Different farm Rates for different tribe sizes on the same Cluster. If u play kn a 5 man tribe, all members have 5x Rates. If you play solo, you have 15x Rates. All on the same cluster

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So a solo can kind of compete against a 5 man. Well theoretically

topaz helm
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Oh i remember yeah, its a plugin. That would be sick

vagrant zealot
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Keep conquest 3 man. We already have a 6 man cluster now .

supple marlin
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i dont mind tbh, 3 man would be nice too

gleaming fiber
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make ns unbuildable

vagrant zealot
chilly olive
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6 man is better fit for conquest and ark in general however that’s not how this game is played nowadays so 3 man is a better option

zealous pivot
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I feel like the server needs changes to suit a 6man like I remember back in the day 6man was like the go to shit and it was way before shit got so easy to be solo like it used to be such a grind to be solo that you’d “live off the loot” now you can get a hidden rathole set up with auto rafters use the solo farm mod etc and your still grinding enough to keep up with bigger player sized tribes I feel like a 6man would work but u gotta reset it to how it felt to play in like 2017-2020 and now is the perfect time for that with the maps that are out being pretty much similar except val not being here and astreos is

chilly olive
zealous pivot
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And nerf stegos for it and buff other soakers like racers etc and only allow like 8 structures on a platform so ppl are forced soak instead of just boxing up

chilly olive
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all i care is that they dont remove tek saddles again that was the most shortsighted decision ive ever seen

zealous pivot
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If they remove tek saddles they gotta remove tek turrets otherwise all u can do to push is soak them out which comes back to how easy it is to farm with all the mods if they online there’s a higher chance their gens gonna run out without them noticing than it is their ammo count depleating

supple marlin
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No ressource caves, harder bosses, no ele Transfer. No tek saddles

chilly olive
supple marlin
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Maybe you can Tell us your opinion instead of Insulting someone. That would help us all u uneducated lil boi

gleaming fiber
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need tek saddles for tek turrets

supple marlin
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Well if its harder to Fill them, you can Old School soak them

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Keep in mind that there is no caves. And the idea should be a longer lasting server. Last time server was Dead weithin 5 days bcs all bases got wiped

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I would also forbid Plattform structures on saddles

gleaming fiber
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another terrible suggestion

supple marlin
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Maybe you want to Tell us why you think so?

gleaming fiber
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whats the issue with platform structures

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you want us to use stegos and carbos ?

supple marlin
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Runnable defenses are a joke to destroy with build in racerd

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Racers

gleaming fiber
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build in racers?

supple marlin
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Yeah. U know, Plattform saddle on a paracer so turrets cant Shoot it

gleaming fiber
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turrets always shoot racers what are you talking about

supple marlin
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If u build a good construction around a paracer with gates u can litteraly walk into a ground base

gleaming fiber
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ok so say you dont think we should be allowed gate racers

supple marlin
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Exactly

gleaming fiber
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but thats now what you asid

supple marlin
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To enforce the rule easy u should forbid structures on Plattform saddled

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I assume u dont plan on Living on a Sky quetz

gleaming fiber
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i disagree. regular boxed racers are still useful for player only turret soaking

supple marlin
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Well thats a point, then reduce buildable structures to 6 or 7

topaz helm
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I think there should be no tek tapy but tek rex is allowed

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Like official conq, tapy is too braindead

supple marlin
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Maybe make it tek rockdrake harder to get

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🤣

gleaming fiber
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tek rex is actually pretty balanced bc it doesnt move erratically like the tappy

supple marlin
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Well lets Face it. Most raids will be offline

gleaming fiber
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maybe. Most spots are an easy online. People just lack the confidence and preparation

zealous pivot
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That guys right tbh allow platform structures but only allow box character racers or shlong racers not gated ones cos u can literally wipe any base and without cave building atleast 60% of bases gonna be land bases

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And keep in the things what let you breed dinos inside cryos so ppl can’t just tame snipe u constantly I forgot what they called, but don’t allow dinos to raise in cryos

gleaming fiber
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propogators

supple marlin
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Propagators and let dinos mature in cryos.

chilly olive
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have you used an omni tool?

chilly olive
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it’s balanced

zealous pivot
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Bcs when they raise in cryos depending on mod it lags the server like crazy idk why

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Plus babies onlu gotta be out for like 8 hours max on here I think and once they hatched they don’t rly need space to move if u have nanny so it doesn’t rky matter u can just build them in a 10x10x10 room but u can’t have that much room for breeders

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So if ppl snipe ur baby’s that’s on u but it’s kinda hard on a land base to keep breeders from getting sniped cos u need them out and u need a lot of space to get enough breeding

supple marlin
# chilly olive wdym harder to fill

Yeah believe it or not but i know how to use omnitool/cs tool/ss tool/s+tool or however you want to call it.
I am talking about the availabiltiy of Element. Reduce the amount of ele u can get from boss and veins, then its harder to Film them

topaz helm
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I dont think extinction or astreos should even be in the cluster tbh. And in terms of ele have artifacts in drops but no tributes

chilly olive
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yea i cant with how pve this games playerbase is not even worth trying to have a convo

supple marlin
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I cant with how small minded some players are. Not even worth to have a conversation with them

viral flame
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if the dumb racer boxes are allowed the cluster will be all wiped in a day or 2.

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you only need your oppenent to be offline for like 30 mins to wipe them so the only counter is being on forever.

topaz helm
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Yeah we need no racer gates

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I think they should disable all plats other than bronto like official conq

topaz helm
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also what maps are being release for conq? i think no extinction and astreos but i think that should be popularity vote

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also 10x rates

zealous pivot
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No ext and astreos should be allowed just nerf the ele farming into the ground like to the point where it’s more worth to run boss fights for ele and ext veins are more for pvp

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U take those 2 maps out servers not Gonna get much pvp

topaz helm
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my main problem is ele so yeah thatss fine by me

supple sinew
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Conquest yucky

fickle frost
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A 100 different opinions now on how conquest should be

grave sable
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100 different option on how it could be… 5 or so that it should be

fickle frost
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Ele balancing
Astraeos and ext nerfed
Bosses drop 2x the official element
Drops for artifscts / tributes nerfed
Platform saddles gone
Soakers banned for atleast first 48 hours
Racer included.

Do we or don’t we want tek suits and rifles?

devout bobcat
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I think we need tek rifles and suit imo also tek saddles

supple marlin
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No tek suits and rifles

devout bobcat
supple marlin
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Saddles

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How u do it on 3 man lt?

bronze kraken
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Where's all stat of the server conquet ?

slender heart
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No tek suit and tek gun to keep it limited tek to

upbeat granite
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No tek suit, no tek rifle. Keep tek saddles

slender heart
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💯

bronze kraken
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Any poll for tek suit on it ?

zealous pivot
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Prim tek rifles only
Boss ele official not buffed at all
Ext and astreos heavily nerfed so you getting max 300-400 from a 50k
No tek suits at all (maybe for buikding if it’s possible to allow tek chest but have it have stupidly low dura like 5 dura so it’s worthless in pvp situations)
Basically make it official with nerfed non boss element harvesting no tek suits or heavily nerfed dura tek chest and no tek rifles other than prim

zealous pivot
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Also don’t make element transferable or make a ratio between it

viral flame
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no tek suits plz. Only people who care are lazy builders

gleaming fiber
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add prim tek chest, and make it really expensive

devout bobcat
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Not a bad idea

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Also make bps and loot lower chance as that’s what made the last conquest die very fast

gleaming fiber
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if theres no caves, then we should have other custom spots like pillars or platoes. idk how the custom shit works but anything you can make thats high up with 1 or 2 entrances

vagrant zealot
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Big reminder 48 hours for stegos, gas bags and other crazy soakers that took everyone out in the first day which is one of the reasons pop also died on our trial run

cerulean mauve
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For tek suiters that use them for building. Is there option to like have only tek suits with very low dura, so it cant really be used in pvp? Lets say like 100 dura or smth.

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But tbh I would also pref no tek suits.

devout bobcat
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or just chest like 1023 said

charred elk
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If you wanted to make it interesting take boss stuff outa drops and have it farmed the old fashion way

vapid blade
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No carchas. But allow gigas make rhinos good again

gleaming fiber
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i agree on no carchas

keen dome
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Yea i think no carchas would be nice. Rhino PvP is amazing. Especially for a conquest type server

modest basalt
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Lower rates and player stats
No like 20x weight or infinite weight its boring this sever should be different

fickle frost
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3man Conquest PRELIMINARY NOTES

  • 3man Tribes
  • Harvest Rate: 15x
  • XP Rate: 5x
  • Egg Hatch Rate: 20x
  • Mating Rate: 20x
  • Maturation Rate: 20x
  • No custom caves. However custom pillars, floating islands, etc, will be added to maps.
  • No Cave building.
  • No Rat hole building. Rathole: An internal chamber that varies in size, characterized by a narrow opening, tunnel, or passageway. Any spot that has a defined/obvious choke point. A rathole could be more than 1 opening, so its not always limited to just 1 so be aware.
  • Added sinomacrops
  • No Tek suits
  • No Tek rifles
  • No Tek forcefield
  • Tesla's enabled
  • All other tek enabled
  • 200 tame limit with 7x propagators
  • ORP: 3x Structure and Turret damage
  • No vacuum compartments
  • Astraeos and ext veins nerfed
  • Bosses drop 1.5x the official element
  • Drops for artifacts / tributes reduced to compete for boss element
  • Platform saddles removed

Disabled Dinos:

Carchas
Dreadmare
Brontos

Disabled for 48 hours

Stegos
Golems
Gasbags
Griffin
Racer
Magnar
Pyros

modest basalt
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Player stats?

supple marlin
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that looks awesome

devout bobcat
empty sky
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bro tesla enable is a L icl

upbeat granite
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Nah Teslas are fine in conquest because they can easily be cannoned.

empty sky
upbeat granite
pearl kelp
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gang why are stegos 48hours disabled but not pyros

cerulean cradleBOT
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empty sky
devout bobcat
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I think should be Max 5 limit Teslas and they should cost like 100 ele per or something

fickle frost
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We can limit max teslas

empty sky
fickle frost
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do we allow ele transfer?

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thats a big deal also

devout bobcat
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Yes

empty sky
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limit wont matter if online

keen dome
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Nah

upbeat granite
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Yes we should allow ele transfer

empty sky
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zes

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yes

cerulean mauve
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Yeah lets allow it

devout bobcat
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Doing abb boss for ele is unfair if ur on ab

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So allow transfer imo

cerulean mauve
#

Ronnie will you announce those new floating islands / custom pillars before wipe? Like where they are and how they look?

cerulean cradleBOT
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pearl kelp
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this meant managamar?

fickle frost
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itll be a free for all exploring

cerulean mauve
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Alright

topaz helm
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i think propergators shouldnt be used

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i love pushing breeding pens on official conq

upbeat granite
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Props are about server performance, not about ease of use

topaz helm
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rewarding getting ppls lines from seperate buildings, otherwise they just make a small base and layer towers around it. also no pod raising either

empty sky
cerulean mauve
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Propagators should stay for performance

topaz helm
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pod raising is way too easy

cerulean mauve
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And also people already don't like living outside - I think removing propagators would only make it more annoying when it comes to sniping etc.

empty sky
topaz helm
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i had aircons next to each propergator to pop the eggs then the cryo terminal would catch. id have unlimited tamess by the time i log back on

fickle frost
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its 200

cerulean mauve
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Pod raising yes/no?

fickle frost
topaz helm
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so i dont think cryo raising is balanced

upbeat granite
topaz helm
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300 slots

pearl kelp
cerulean mauve
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Make raising pens

upbeat granite
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300 = unlimited my bad i forgot thats how numbers work

topaz helm
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yeah thats a massive part of conquesst lol

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otherwise you build a 5 by 5 with layered towers

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there needs to be risk or else itss too easy

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like no propagators or pod raising, or at least no cryoterminal then to catch them

torpid eagle
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What rates will the veins be on?

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Compared to 7x as it was before

upbeat granite
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EA isn't like official. In EA people have 3-5x more dinos breeding that official. The server lag WILL be unberable. Before props the servers during peak would be hitting 500-600 ping because of all the tames. Props brought it down by several hundred.

vivid vortex
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Remove all arkomatic auto craft things

topaz helm
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limit props to having 3 then, one for stegos, 1 for gigs and 1 for wyverns then

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the rest can be in a pen

topaz helm
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there needs to be risk

pearl kelp
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not 25man and u build 25 towers

topaz helm
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i was playing 25 man as a 3 man

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official conq

cerulean mauve
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@topaz helm As someone who always loved outside bases. I think as much as I would just remove props, I think people would be discouraged too much compared to standard setup. For that reason I would leave props as they are.

upbeat granite
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You only need 1 propagator to do the work of 7 anyways. Just rotate your dinos through it

topaz helm
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i still think there needs to be a reason for a pen

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one prop would make it so the sweaty tribes would build a pen and the smaller casuals can rotate it, i agree with mac

cerulean mauve
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If we remove raising in cryos, people will need pen

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Also ur not gonna rotate everything realistically

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There are many dinos you want to breed, maybe not mutate

topaz helm
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tbh i can deal with props if cryo raising is turned off

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its soo broken

cerulean mauve
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Yeah

vapid blade
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Are custom resource caves loot caves disabled as well?

vivid vortex
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They need remove arkomatic insta craft all that for this wipe, since there will be no racers to drop towers most will have to be soaked and on current cluster its to easy to cap everything

topaz helm
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they definitely should be, maybe not drops for pvp

hardy sleet
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Please make bosses farmed not in drops

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Why would you not want teslas lmao

gleaming fiber
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remove tek forge

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and cs lab

cerulean mauve
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Cs lab has to go, tek forge can go potentially, but I don't see us getting rid of arkomatic

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People will not want to stand at fabricators crafting tons of arbs. I think many people will simply quit or get raided because they won't be bothered to mass craft.

quaint moss
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How would could u even get to level 100 if u play on for example rag if all the maps Are caped?

smoky current
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don’t be a bob bro

quaint moss
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Lol

bronze kraken
vivid vortex
tender flint
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So are tek saddles enabled?

bronze kraken
cerulean mauve
vivid vortex
cerulean mauve
#

Do you think that people will not be wipeable?

bronze kraken
upbeat granite
vivid vortex
cerulean mauve
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Who wants to have capped base will have capped base

bronze kraken
vivid vortex
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Every base towers i’ve dropped its all capped bacause its to easy on here with all the auto craft

azure flame
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capped turrets on ark are not a difficult thing to achieve

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just farm harder

cerulean mauve
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You will not change it, but you will hurt all average bobs who don't want to stand at fabricators crafting arb.

bronze kraken
vivid vortex
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I can guarantee people won’t have everything capped if they would have to manually craft everything

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Instead of pulling every resource to an auto crafter

azure flame
upbeat granite
hardy sleet
cerulean mauve
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Yes, because they don't play as much to craft it - there are many people playing couple of hours. They will simply not have that ammo. But people who play 24/7 will have it easily.

bronze kraken
azure flame
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its not a super difficult thing its annoying sure but were trying to make an older style cluster here lol

vivid vortex
cerulean mauve
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I am just saying that I wouldn't push it too much, because if it dies again within couple of days - not sure if we get another round like that.

hardy sleet
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Crafting adv on conquest is not hard it’s 15x on this so I’m sure everything will be capped first week tbh

cerulean mauve
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Its eliteark, most people who play here aren't even active in these conversations. And they most probably play here for convenience.

tender flint
hardy sleet
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Hopefully cryofridges are needed

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If not wipes gonna be funny 😭

upbeat granite
cerulean mauve
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Because if you have couple of hours a day of playtime, you don't want to spend it at fabricators crafting ammo.

vivid vortex
cerulean mauve
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I think thats why many people play on elite - they just farm some stuff and crafting is automatic, which helps them immensely with defense.

tender flint
hardy sleet
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Old school cluster with autocrafters xD

cerulean mauve
vivid vortex
hardy sleet
cerulean mauve
#

Obviously it's not so simple that people would automatically not have ammo, its just that compared to other clusters, this already WILL be different. But I wouldn't go all the way to go like vanilla conquest.

vivid vortex
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Whats the modded cryons

hardy sleet
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They should make it be the normal cryos

cerulean mauve
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Also breeding is quite boosted, so you can always throw bunch of carbos on someone's base

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And we know how easy is it to raise carbos

hardy sleet
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Idk why they don’t just full mimic conquest, no tek suits is stupid asf

cerulean mauve
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Because people don't want vanilla conquest

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I think

hardy sleet
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The suggest literally says make conquest this is why this is even a thing

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If they made it a dupe they would take a lot of conquest pop since tea can’t abuse on here

cerulean mauve
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But considering how last wipe went, I think the goal should be to keep people engaged slightly longer

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Instead of annoying them with tough crafting and then seeing them leave in a few days again

hardy sleet
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Last wipe went back cause it was only 3 maps

charred elk
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Dino raising should def be lowered u shouldnt be able to breed up 300 carbos in a couple hrs

upbeat granite
cerulean mauve
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People got wiped, it had nothing to do with maps

hardy sleet
cerulean mauve
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I am talking about elite conquest

hardy sleet
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I mean they are targeting wrong player base, actual conquest fucked their wipe and I guarantee 50% would come here to play idk with 3 man tho

upbeat granite
cerulean mauve
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But its like with land bases only I doubt that people will be so "inpenetrable"

hardy sleet
hardy sleet
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Especially 3 man

cerulean mauve
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Its not about modded cryos

upbeat granite
cerulean mauve
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It literally doesn't matter - you can just uncryo standard cryos in a bulk, and then drop those dinos with wyvern or karki

hardy sleet
cerulean mauve
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Or maybe I don't understand what the guy means with cryos

hardy sleet
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You’re offline I can just fly by 3 deep with Stegos and drop until your base is gone without putting a single foundation down

cerulean mauve
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Well there is cryo timer that is one thing

hardy sleet
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5 minutes

cerulean mauve
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Second thing - when there are teslas and you have many turrets

upbeat granite
cerulean mauve
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Good luck wiith that

hardy sleet
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It’s not an issue

cerulean mauve
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You can drop lets say 300 carbos in few hours?

upbeat granite
cerulean mauve
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I want to see that with tesla and orp

hardy sleet
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Teslas soak twin

cerulean mauve
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Orp is 4x

slender heart
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3x

cerulean mauve
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Ok then 3x

upbeat granite
cerulean mauve
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And then we have crystal stacks by 5000

hardy sleet
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People in this thread already talking about removing them 😭

cerulean mauve
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So you never soak tesla really

hardy sleet
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5 teslas per tribe too

vivid vortex
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Also orp will demolish ur tame

hardy sleet
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We will see ig

vivid vortex
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And rockets will tickle enemy structures

empty furnace
hardy sleet
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No vacs is also insane

cerulean mauve
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Bois we are overthinking it, fact is that last conquest on elite died within like 3 days because people got wiped

empty furnace
cerulean mauve
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And now we are here sitting discussing how people will have capped bases and stuff

hardy sleet
cerulean mauve
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But many people on elite can't play 16 hours/day

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And if you don't give them autocrafters, they will simply get wiped or bored

empty furnace
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i just hope they give up on conquest after it flops again all it does is delay limited tek seasons

hardy sleet
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Dropped the ball by making it 3 man

vivid vortex
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Yea tbh 3 man too low

hardy sleet
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Should’ve been 6 minimum

vivid vortex
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Too high for unoffi on this game

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None has a 6 man

hardy sleet
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People have 75 mans on actual conquest

vivid vortex
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Yea thats different tho

hardy sleet
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Why would they not want to take pop from the official conquest

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There was like 1k people 2 days before they announced wipe 2 months in

tribal drum
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Add tek chest thats it for tek suit for easier building

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Since there’s no platform saddles

hardy sleet
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Yeah no tek suit is an awful idea

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Farming will be a lot harder

tribal drum
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Legs and chest

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That’s it

hardy sleet
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The entire suit should be in

tribal drum
hardy sleet
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It really should

slender heart
hardy sleet
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Vacs should also be in

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No underwater farming outposts

viral flame
hardy sleet
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You’re used to infinite weight then

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Fumble it they make weight boosted, such a good aspect of the game

viral flame
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also 3 man ark is peak gameplay

slender heart
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💯

gleaming fiber
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add giant hatchframe mod

jade briar
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Up 3 man to 4 man and it would be more interesting.

upbeat granite
hardy sleet
upbeat granite
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EA doesnt have infinite weight btw. Not sure where you're getting that idea

hardy sleet
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Dino’s are essentially infinite weight

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The player to Dino ratio is not good

upbeat granite
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No lol. They don't. Certain dinos yes. But PvP dinos people do not level big weight at all. Nobody runs PTs past 5k weight when the player can easily get past 10k

hardy sleet
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Let me level my stego in weight

upbeat granite
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Go for it. Proves nothing.

hardy sleet
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Your point is stupid

upbeat granite
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Its not. Its clear from your comments you have no idea wtf you are talking about in regards to EA. You just want official so I implore you to go play that instead.

viral flame
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You lot just come off as extremely lazy. Need your slaves..... I mean dedicated farmers/breeders.

torpid eagle
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Make tek chest 500 ele and prim only for building

jade briar
slender heart
viral flame
jade briar
zealous pivot
viral flame
jade briar
charred elk
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Def need lower maturation rate nonody should have 200 carbos raised by day 3

viral flame
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you are irrelevant. Regardless though EA makes clusters just for you so why you trying to convert them all.

zealous pivot
# empty sky cannon 300 teslas online zh

Teslas got nerfed in recent update I don’t think they hold as much ammo and the stun isn’t as bad u don’t get dismounted it only slows land targets I think the damage increase was reduced by 50% or something and the flame one idrk but u don’t think it’s rly used anyway compared to other 2

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If your allowing ele transfer don’t increase boss ele and HEAVILY nerf veins otherwise ppl can just run the easiest boss and tek fob ppl 6 hours in if they wanted on different maps etc

viral flame
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veins are nerfed and boss's will be harder to do as items used to start it are nerfed

zealous pivot
vague basin
hardy sleet
hardy sleet
vague basin
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Not anyone big

hardy sleet
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Yes big

viral flame
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no you dont

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and raiding people who can been offline for weeks dont count

vague basin
# hardy sleet Yes big

Not 15x harvest big with 3 people trying to online a base that comes with that rate. And youre not offlining here with 3x orp. Teslas will just amplify the orp

devout bobcat
hardy sleet
vague basin
upbeat granite
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Some people raid stone 2x2s and claim the base had hundreds of capped turrets and hundreds of gigas on aggressive. Trey is one of those people.

viral flame
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until he shows proof I just assume he is a serial liar

hardy sleet
upbeat granite
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Rota is insiding trash

hardy sleet
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Insiding??? 😭😭😭😭

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Holy cope bro

viral flame
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you have zero proof to backup your claims and have now attempted to attach yuorself to a ark content creator

hardy sleet
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It’s almost like we are in the same tribe 😭

upbeat granite
hardy sleet
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Watch the videos for my stone shack raids

upbeat granite
viral flame
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trying to say yu are hot stuff when you are one of the irrelevant background characters

hardy sleet
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I’m a w background character twin

viral flame
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I hope you play this so I can put you down

hardy sleet
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Where are you building

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I’ll play just to wipe you

viral flame
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I dont plan stuff

hardy sleet
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When you get a base spot, ping me

viral flame
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bet

cerulean mauve
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Bois this is not really productive to spam this thread. Lets keep it for suggestions.

slim sphinx
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@hardy sleet hey u think ur hot stuff bud?

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yea ok big time show u whats up when u come to elite ark buddy!

cerulean mauve
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When we are removing platform saddles - what about zeppelins?

hardy sleet
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Yeah ace pal you’re pre wiped don’t even play

hardy sleet
cerulean mauve
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But maybe limit amount of structures, not sure what is the limit now

slim sphinx
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enable suits and rifles that is so dumb

hardy sleet
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That’s what tame limits for

hardy sleet
slim sphinx
cerulean mauve
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Ronnie can you look into zeppelin structure limit?

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As we are removing platform saddles for obvious resson, so people don't do something funny with that.

hardy sleet
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Remove excessive spam rule on conquest

charred elk
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This shit is just turning in to whos online the most like tf am i supposed to do with 5 teslas

hardy sleet
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Yes it will be just whoever is online btw

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That’s why 3 man is stupid

charred elk
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And 20x maturation gonna have 300 carbos rasied by day 2

hardy sleet
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Yep

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It might be enjoyable for the first two weeks we will see

charred elk
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As soon as u go offline ur base is gonna get ran through

hardy sleet
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Calling out official players to play a 3 man server is funny though, everyone has 6+

charred elk
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Very ballsy move i think half the pop on every cluster is bots

hardy sleet
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Plus they play more so it’ll just be unofficial players being offlined lmao

hardy sleet
charred elk
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I thinks its dumb having xp at 5x but raising and breeding on 20x

hardy sleet
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I mean shit levels so quick

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On 5x even 5x raising is fast asf

charred elk
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Im fine with 5x xp just dont think 20x breeding and raising is smart

hardy sleet
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Gigas will take sub 1 day lmao

charred elk
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Pop gonna be dead asf after day 3

hardy sleet
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Griffins are capped on conquest on 5x breeding already

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But I mean everyone will be breeding in propagators and I don’t know if traits work in those

zealous pivot
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Will ceiling bases be allowed?

cerulean cradleBOT
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devout bobcat
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just no caves or ratholes

slim sphinx
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enable suits and rifles

viral flame
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1-3 man groups are the true PvP'ers

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if you need 6+ people im sorry to tell you but you suck at this game

slim sphinx
viral flame
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you going to wish you didnt just say that

viral flame
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You are already wiped bud you just dont know it

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dont even start this wipe

slim sphinx
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who is this unc

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friendless unc only has 3 people to play with 🙁

viral flame
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you dont even kbow what a real friend is

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trust me the people you play with dont consider you a friend

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just a useful idiot

hardy sleet
slim sphinx
slim sphinx
hardy sleet
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I asked him where he was building and he said he doesn’t plan

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W day 4 exit from razor incoming

slim sphinx
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razor is a bot we are wiping this unc

hardy sleet
viral flame
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play every wipe

hardy sleet
slim sphinx
viral flame
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shows nothing about actual skill

hardy sleet
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I hope you understand basic numbers

viral flame
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defending is easy. Thats not impressive

slim sphinx
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what impresses u razor

hardy sleet
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It probably is on dedi against 3 players

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3 shitcans

slim sphinx
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razor are u employed

viral flame
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I will 1v2 both of you any day foot pvp

hardy sleet
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Which kit

viral flame
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you can decide

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do anything that helps you

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gonna need it

hardy sleet
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@slim sphinx are you on

slim sphinx
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i can get on

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was bout to go afk but ill hop on arena

hardy sleet
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Let’s go on arena

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Did you farm artis twin

slim sphinx
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razor go on casual

upbeat granite
#

Official players are actual bots. Some of the worst PvPers I have ever seen. Unofficial players are also online way more than official players. Dudes on EA are insane sweats. Any decent tribe has someone on at all times on a 3man.

slim sphinx
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@viral flame

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where u at big dog

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we having lots of fun on this arena rn

viral flame
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just keep waiting I am almost there

glossy otter
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calling out official players with 20x rates is insane

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arkpoc and conquest is main servers for good official players

viral flame
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there is zero skill in farming

upbeat granite
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Server rates mean nothing for skill in PvP. Higher rates just allow you to get to the PvP faster. Bragging about grinding 1-5x just tells me you are unemployed

slim sphinx
viral flame
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would say more skill is needed on higher rates

hardy sleet
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phenominal dodge tbh

viral flame
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dodge? Its launching as we speak

hardy sleet
#

ok lmk

glossy otter
# viral flame how do rates have anything to do about skill?

everyone will have tek in less than 6 hours
skill is not only about pvp, but also about how you distribute your time efficiently and being ahead of everyone else with the same about of time, having low rates accelarates that and actually proves who is better, having 1000 mods and boosted rates for dogshit players to be on the same level as good players lowers the skill-differential

glossy otter
upbeat granite
glossy otter
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when new maps come out, smalls is the funniest gameplay imo, its 5x rates and people pvp with prim flak and non imprinted tames

glossy otter
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you dont use regular crafting stations, forges etc. etc., official players are at a big disadvantage having to learn all these bob mods

viral flame
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so you are sorry af

upbeat granite
glossy otter
viral flame
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You might be the greatest clown here

glossy otter
#

how dogshit are u kid

upbeat granite
viral flame
#

go play minecraft buddy

glossy otter
viral flame
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I cant beleive a pve bob is trying to trash me

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funniest thing I have seen

upbeat granite
glossy otter
viral flame
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its not 20x though

glossy otter
vivid vortex
upbeat granite
glossy otter
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any dogshit player will just buy 100 lootboxes through the paytowin system and set up a base with 500 capped turrets on day 1, its not skill-based at all

vivid vortex
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Starting with 48hours stego ban to let bad players build up, any bad player with these insta craft and mod things will claim a modded cave and spam 100 tek terrains and will not get touched

upbeat granite
vivid vortex
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On here

viral flame
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these official players are so lost and derailing this thread

vivid vortex
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Any cluster not conquest

glossy otter
upbeat granite
vivid vortex
glossy otter
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you sit here with an ego on a dedi-server discord cause u cant survive for 1 hour on arkpoc, conquest or smalls, it just goes to show how dogshit players can play and survive on here without any skill needed

upbeat granite
glossy otter
upbeat granite
vague basin
glossy otter
upbeat granite
viral flame
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he isnt American

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more than one english speaking country

glossy otter
viral flame
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guys must be euros

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smelly and dumb

hardy sleet
glossy otter
#

goes to show how little you kids ever actually been on official

vague basin
vivid vortex
upbeat granite
#

Watching 1 rota video tells me all I need to know about how bad official players are

vague basin
glossy otter
vivid vortex
vague basin
#

check the tag

glossy otter
hardy sleet
vague basin
#

someone go to his message where he said people would go there to not get devved by tea

glossy otter
vague basin
#

someone clown this kid

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u obviously havent played conquest then

glossy otter
#

"someone clown this kid", wow

hardy sleet
upbeat granite
glossy otter
glossy otter
#

u only know about conquest from rota, u are actually clapped in ur small ass head

hardy sleet
#

they are still devving tribes bro

vague basin
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yeah yeah not like i was in the only tribe to fight tea

glossy otter
vague basin
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u shoot tea with a fabi = dev

glossy otter
#

they got devved on rotas video aswell, are you slow?

hardy sleet
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they didnt get devd im in his tribe bro

glossy otter
#

oml u are cooked kid

hardy sleet
#

mt6 and ddg got devd

upbeat granite
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Take this to #🧂ark-salt you official monkeys.

glossy otter
#

they got dev wiped this season after a week

hardy sleet
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8 months ago, they are still on conquest right now

glossy otter
#

you kids know nothing about conquest, stick to dedi servers

viral flame
#

Just trying to talk conquest cluster and these official clowns ruining it

hardy sleet
#

they got mt6 banned last week bro

glossy otter
hardy sleet
#

how are you going to tell me they are banned this wipe when they are literally still built

glossy otter
#

show me

hardy sleet
#

who dev wiped tea on conquest

glossy otter
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i would assume an admin, thats usually the ones who dev wipe

hardy sleet
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wildcard doesnt have any control over conquest

glossy otter
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a conquest admin sherlock holmes

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u know they have a discord right?

hardy sleet
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conquest admins are snail games

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conquest is built for snail games to play yk that right

glossy otter
#

i really dont think you know a lot about any of the things you are saying, you are just talking out your ass hoping i wont fact check you, i have fact checked you multiple times now and you continue to just spit garbage and deflect when you get proven wrong, go ahead and argue with the wall kid

hardy sleet
#

dude

slender heart
stone scaffold
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If you dont have a Suggestion, then take it elsewhere.

hardy sleet
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tea is litearlly on conquest rn

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server 20

glossy otter
#

trust me dude, they are on conquest!

upbeat granite
#

Good luck trying to get these braindead official players to listen lmao

stone scaffold
#

!mute @hardy sleet

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stone scaffold
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!mute @glossy otter

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stone scaffold
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!mute @upbeat granite

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viral flame
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so anyways about the upcoming cluster. Is there any chance zeppelins can have limited structures

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can basically do similar things as the platfrom dinos

subtle eagle
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i think all plats should have decreased structures