Ah that makes sense
#lore-discussion
compact ridge
split mortar
Idk why the last mech would cause it to appear and not wof though since wof contained all the god essence
compact ridge
I assume the hardmode and hallowed ore being locked behind mechs isn’t canon and jsut gameplay
split mortar
Devs have said each ore spawn is canon a while ago iirc
compact ridge
Damn
How the hell are draedon weapons made with them in mind if they just showed up lol
split mortar
Maybe the circumstance that made them happened before and draedon just used it all up idk
P sure permafrost can just make ceyogenic ore
split mortar
Not yet known, not gonna let them live the moment down of when i think it was rebecca who was gonna make it tectonic plates to make them special not realising everything thats part of the ground is tectonic plate
compact ridge
XD
it should be special bc of hellfire mixing with abyss trust that could be cool maybe
split mortar
It doesnt really have much hell themes iirc
compact ridge
It’s hot
Good enough for me but fair
Making metal hell related jsut bc hot isn’t the best reason
split mortar
Not yet known, not gonna let them live the moment down of when i think it was re...
Found the convo #calamity-update-talk message
rebecca account now called roxy
split mortar
Good enough for me but fair
Itd prob have more brimstone stuff going on then just hot if it was hell related
compact ridge
Tru
What if it was just like a natural magic metal that just so happen to only be in the abyss bc like water keeps it from melting into nothing
The terrarian in their genius figures out how to keep it stable bc like they’re that guy
split mortar
Persmaps
compact ridge
Or it could always just be actual scoria but with some magic in it
Infernal Suevite is just actual suevite but with some brimstone in it afaik so
Could be kinda like that
split mortar
Wait scoria is a real thingy
compact ridge
Yeah it’s a rock
split mortar
Damn
compact ridge
Perrenial is just becoming magic tree bark right
split mortar
Think so
Wait so life alloy is us mixing super hot metal, bark and ice into a new thing
compact ridge
It could be cool if the bark is turned into like magic soot that binds the cold and hot to make it all balanced
I’m cooking
I’m forever excited to see the distortion I can’t wait to learn more abt it
split mortar
Same
patent sky
Meow
patent sky
this was funny the first time
pulsar ocean
wheat walrus
pulsar ocean
for real real
latent bolt
which calamity characters are the closest to the player character ability wise
wanton pendant
which calamity characters are the closest to the player character ability wise
Depends on what point in progression you are.
split mortar
which calamity characters are the closest to the player character ability wise
Depends on what you mean by ability wise as well and what you headcanon for terrarian
latent bolt
oh
wanton pendant
If you meant closest in overall strength post-game, the answer pretty clearly is Yharim.
split mortar
Yeah
latent bolt
yeah
split mortar
Yeah
Ofcourse if you make respawn canon for some reason then yharon is the only one who resembles you in that regard
long scaffold
Speaking of Yharon, how would you go about actually killing him?
Yharim had the ability to at one point but how did the god of dogma prepare that
patent sky
i think probably you would need to absorb his soul bit by bit
thick slate
this was funny the first time
still funny
pulsar ocean
❌
patent sky
silence white role
split mortar
Speaking of Yharon, how would you go about actually killing him?
You need the egg and the god ascension ritual
Cant just kill yharon because the soul goes to the aerie and becomes an egg
And doing apotheosis ends the dragon to be a god
pulsar ocean
silence white role
patent sky
You need the egg and the god ascension ritual
Cant just kill yharon because the ...
ooh this is better than what I thought
long scaffold
You need the egg and the god ascension ritual
Cant just kill yharon because the ...
How do you get the egg?
split mortar
Going to the aerie and finding it
long scaffold
So does Mr. Dogma Guy have access to there or something?
patent sky
spamming images clogs this channel, other ppl have mentioned it before, buries actual convos and all that
split mortar
So does Mr. Dogma Guy have access to there or something?
Yeah
long scaffold
Who else does?
patent sky
I thought dogma is now dead?
long scaffold
I'm just going off what I've heard
light linden
Eh
patent sky
Access to the aerie seems to be for anyone who can find it
light linden
It's questionable what he is and is not
Best fit is undead but even then it's funky
long scaffold
I thought dogma is now dead?
I'm talking about pre-Crusdades when he gave the Yharon Egg to Yharim for him to ascend
I was wondering how he was able to get that since I didn't know he had access to the aerie
light linden
He's basically a weird zombie with god knows how many extra limbs attached
split mortar
I was wondering how he was able to get that since I didn't know he had access to...
Dogma used to be a dragon monk to faith iirc so thats prob why the guy knows
light linden
when was that revealed
split mortar
terse moss
Faith in the dragons turning into human lead religious dogma is peak actually
faith in a higher power gets co-opted by selfish actors and turned into propaganda to control other people
mighty zenith
and then the selfishness of individuals is turned into propaganda against the collective
wanton pendant
And then the collective bees are turned into cogs in a machine.
light linden
y'know
I do genuinely wonder if there were any diseases that explicitly targetted gods
icy veldt
faith in a higher power gets co-opted by selfish actors and turned into propagan...
And then those selfish actors get beaten down by a squid from the Distortion, leading to the end of their tyrannical regime 
light linden
aaand there they go immediately
plucky juniper
And then those selfish actors get beaten down by a squid from the Distortion, le...
... i think they were referring to the gods
icy veldt
... i think they were referring to the gods
I know, I just thought it was funny how the wording "faith in a higher power gets co-opted by selfish actors and turned into propaganda to control other people" is just as applicable to the Auric dragons themselves
plucky juniper
slander only WORKS if you use the right evidence
icy veldt
What
sinful adder
slander only WORKS if you use the right evidence
It is valid for both
wheat walrus
p
violet sparrow
+2
wanton pendant
In which stat?
wheat walrus
miau
scenic olive
is zenith seed canon to calamity
long bloom
is zenith seed canon to calamity
obviously not
glacial rampart
so it is
graceful warren
Genuinely where does Yharim even scale 2. Like how strong really is the guy
zenith geode
coughing baby
long bloom
can't he punch mountains
laura or whoever said he once cleaved a small mountain in half with one swing of his sword
so do with that what you will @graceful warren
graceful warren
Okay than. I mean i figured dude was strong
long bloom
also his punch creates a shockwave strong enough to level multiple city blocks and instantly kill hundreds of people
almost forgor
agile matrix
it also blasts a hole in a rather small laboratory
(like genuinely draedon is massive and the lab is so small)
sinful adder
Cutting a mountain in half is way above the other feats mentioned
deft vessel
how did I never notice they're an upside down p
Wouldnt they just be a b then
woeful hatch
Wouldnt they just be a b then
bikachu
pulsar ocean
Okay than. I mean i figured dude was strong
im stronger
spark shoal
The desk punch that killed a bunch of people was old lore I believe
patent sky
I’ve been pondering how Luffy would react to Yharim for the past week
Because on one hand, yharim is a bad guy, really bad, but on the other, the gods committed a genocide of dragons
eternal lake
depends on what gives him more food ig
robust osprey
too bad theyre all dead
split mortar
Hello chat
robust osprey
hello siffrin
robust osprey
lihzahrds worshipped a god, therefore they encourage dragon genocide
what do you think about that
brazen coral
mighty zenith
brazen coral
hissssssssss
terse moss
The desk punch that killed a bunch of people was old lore I believe
I still think it should be a gfb Yharim attack
He summons/builds a table and punches it
spark shoal
I’m working on a weapon that lets you do that
Auric-tier melee weapon (because what other class would it be?)
spark shoal
Nah, rogue bc their options are rough at that point
terse moss
Rogue because you throw the table
hoary cape
Comically large table weapon
warm gull
the food
thick slate
He summons/builds a table and punches it
super smash bros ahh attack
they should add yhar to smash
pulsar ocean
does divine swine have a connection to xeroc
terse moss
they should add yhar to smash
TRUE
I would pay $5 for Yharim
Might make me play the game again for a bit
He would make a phenomenal Ganon skin
For his final smash he summons Yharon
split mortar
does divine swine have a connection to xeroc
One is God the other isnt
light linden
what is the horrible hog?
west plume
(divine swine is God)
he is not a king, he is not a god, he is worse
raven brook
what is the horrible hog?
مهرجان الخنازير، يوم خنزير مروع، تحديث الخنزير، سيأتي الخنزير، المروع، الخنزير جون، هوغ، مهرجان الخنازير، مهرجان الخنازير، هو الرب، أؤمن بالرب، هو المخلص، ليأتِ ملكوتك، لتكن مشيئتك، ثقوا دائمًا بالخنزير! خنزير! خنزير! هتاف! هتاف! مهرجان الخنازير! مهرجان الخنازير! تضحية! تضحية! دم! دم!
dusk laurel
what is the horrible hog?
The Horrible Hog is a being of an unknown composition and energy. It entered this world by infecting the dream of a Calamity developer and was manifested into a physical form.
split mortar
what is the horrible hog?
real glen
The Horrible Hog is a being of an unknown composition and energy. It entered thi...
scp ahh
patent sky
That one map of feral boars in the U.S.
young socket
the hog is the hog
patent sky
Also this horrible hog is being added
split mortar
the second image brings back memories...
Whur
dusk laurel
back before we knew the truth of this world
split mortar
The Hog Is Coming.
dusk laurel
raven brook
each day more gets added
or well not each day every few days
its building up to the fated Hour
split mortar
Quoting the horrible hogible i see
agile matrix
Translate this
The Pig Festival! A Terrifying Pig Day! The Pig Update! The Pig Is Coming! The Terrifying One! Pig John! Hog! The Pig Festival! The Pig Festival! He is the Lord! I believe in the Lord! He is the Savior! Thy Kingdom Come! Thy Will Be Done! Always Trust in the Pig! Pig! Pig! Cheers! Cheers! The Pig Festival! The Pig Festival! Sacrifice! Sacrifice! Blood! Blood!
wow that. actually translates?
simple tangle
Why is the text like that
split mortar
Why is the text like that
The Hog Is Coming.
cloud ibex
the horrible hog
wanton pendant
Why is the text like that
The hour that pigs shall fly is upon us.
simple tangle
Is it actually building up to something
wanton pendant
The end times.
split mortar
Is it actually building up to something
The Hog Will Be Here Soon.
robust osprey
raven brook
ok hog aside
ive been thinking abt these
and i will say
helkite, hellborn and the 2 oathblades feel kind of odd to me
big fan of blade crest and old lord
and devil's devastation is fine too ya
but my main issue with them is
hellkite and hellborn - supposed to be unique one-of-akind items based on the description,,, yet are just sorta regular boss/enemy drops with no real flair to how you obtain them and you can easily get multiple without even trying too hard
Creates disparity between gameplay and narrative that is pretty eh
wanton pendant
Azafure's finest forgemaster was really fast, clearly.
raven brook
And Forbidden Oathblade/Exalted Oathblade - Supposedly fashioned in the likeness of a sowrd made by the demon lord or wtv, yet you craft it and this sorta implies youre specifically crafting them using those weapons as reference
which again is, eh?
with draedon's arsenal it makes sense they're exact replicas of already-existing weapons
cuz yeah
u literally use schematics and blueprints for em
but with this ur just meshing 1 and 1 together and getting 2 and somehow you end up with a replica of this one really specific sword
wanton pendant
Maybe it's just really famous, so like, everyone's heard about them.
agile matrix
i mean this is an issue of We Don't See It
but maybe when we go to Hell theres a demon who had a page that talked abt the demonlord and its sword
raven brook
That'd be something you'd communicate through gameplay ideally
You can't just say "maybe this happens" and never have it happen ingame
that is bad gameplay - narrative communication
agile matrix
also for hellkite and -born i thought only Overloaded Soldiers dropped it
agile matrix
That'd be something you'd communicate through gameplay ideally
yea thats why i called it an issue lol
raven brook
Hellkite is renegade warlocks
Hellborn is birmstone elemental
But idk what enemy it drops from matters
The point is thta despite, supposedly being one-of-a-kind weapons made oh so long ago by this one guy
raven brook
they just drop regularly from specific enemies like any other item
terse moss
hellkite and hellborn - supposed to be unique one-of-akind items based on the de...
I think the Hellborn got nerfed to hard. It was objectively broken before, I get that, but like now, even if you get melee hits, it is at best as good, and most often worse than other options
agile matrix
they're not one-of-a-kind
terse moss
There is no reason to use it
raven brook
and you can easily get multiple of them without even trying too hard about it
agile matrix
"An" not "The"
raven brook
I think the Hellborn got nerfed to hard. It was objectively broken before, I get...
Idk about its stats
and idrc
wanton pendant
If it only drops from the Elemental then like, narratively fighting it multiple times isn't factored in.
raven brook
i never even used these items
raven brook
"An" not "The"
The way its worded heavily implies they are
mighty zenith
hoge
agile matrix
not really?
in my eyes i see it as "rare but powerful weaponry made by a really good forge"
wanton pendant
in my eyes i see it as "rare but powerful weaponry made by a really good forge"
Made by a specific guy.
raven brook
if you're gonna go out of your way to have a tooltip talking about how these ornate weapons were made by the finest forgemaster or whatever know the graceof a gun forged bla bla bla
it makes them sound special
agile matrix
Made by a specific guy.
forge =~ guy who works at forge
raven brook
Azafr
wanton pendant
forge =~ guy who works at forge
Forgemaster = Guy who works at a forge.
raven brook
Azadfure's finest forgemaster
agile matrix
Frog
raven brook
that is ONe Specific Guy
agile matrix
yea
they're rare-ish weapons
but since that was a while ago, theres probably a good few
wanton pendant
Made by one guy.
So unless that guy was really fast at making things.
There wouldn't be that many.
agile matrix
okay you guys dont put faith into azafure's finest forgemaster
raven brook
I mean wwg thats not the issue
the issue is that it feels weird for these supposedly special wepaons to just be random bum ass drops like any other weapon ever
The tooltip makes them feel more special than they actually are ingame
agile matrix
okay so riddle me this: what would be a better obtainment
raven brook
even then credit wehre credit is due
atleast theyre item drops
if they were crafts itd be far worse
agile matrix
since azafure is Fucking Dust (not meaning this rudely)
wanton pendant
okay so riddle me this: what would be a better obtainment
You rob the Forgemaster's grave.
raven brook
(which, is what the oathblades are)
agile matrix
You rob the Forgemaster's grave.
that'd make, what
raven brook
okay so riddle me this: what would be a better obtainment
Consider that you could just change the tooltip also
wanton pendant
You'd probably have to get past the Elemental first, I suppose.
Then go grave robbing.
agile matrix
thats not really my issue
my issue is that crags is kinda just grave robbing until brimmy and then you Never Touch It Again
terse moss
How the hell did John Forge manage to get his hands on Cosmilite, or an equivalent tier of material
raven brook
yeah
terse moss
Oh
raven brook
which are item drops
if it was a craft and it said "this oen guy mae this weapon"
itd be way worse
wanton pendant
How the *hell* did John Forge manage to get his hands on Cosmilite, or an equiva...
He was really good at his job.
raven brook
its very odd how theyre supposed to be specifically made as a replica of a specific unique weapon
that the game never communicates to you in any way
again
arsenal weapons have this but it works
ur literally making them out of existing schematics ad blueprints
that is good gameplay - narrative communication
this is not the case for the oathblades there is nothing whatsoever indicating you're making them based of a existing thing beyond the tooltip
agile matrix
"A weapon forged from the visage of the [cooler name for Hellkite/Hellborn], first crafted by Azafure's finest forgemaster."
you looked at the thing and made a replica of it
wanton pendant
Demon Trader who sells you demonic blueprints to make demon weapons in exchange for religious artifacts (Guide's hat).
agile matrix
its not the best it could be, but it is pretty good
terse moss
Maybe a crafting component could be a broken shard of it
raven brook
Alternatively
terse moss
Like a broker hero sword
agile matrix
no thats boring
raven brook
😭
raven brook
what "hype"
terse moss
John Forge didn’t die for this slander
raven brook
you can literally slightly alter the tooltip and it becomes better
the forge guy dosent even have anything to do with this
🥹
mighty zenith
john forge
terse moss
Nah but it would be cool
wanton pendant
Alright, new idea, big demons who carry their own imitations which you use as inspiration.
agile matrix
Doom Demon with a quickdraw
raven brook
man holding a conversation in this caht sucks sometimes
raven brook
can u guys stop making quips and jokes and actually just have a normal convo for once
agile matrix
that was awesome i liked that
raven brook
wwg specially does that alot and its genuinely kind of annoying
agile matrix
can u guys stop making quips and jokes and actually just have a normal convo for...
what do you want us to say though
"yeah changing the tooltip would be more effective than adding a new obtainment method"
that ends the conversation
raven brook
man im not asking you to say anything im just asking people to stop being annoying
trying to talk abt something and all people do is make funny hilarious jokes
it is kind of annoying
if u dont have anything to add then dont add it
whatevs though
glacial rampart
wwg specially does that alot and its genuinely kind of annoying
Thats kind of all I see them do tbh
raven brook
back to the original topic
glacial rampart
In any channel
terse moss
Ok, as a more serious argument, using this as an opportunity to expand the world and make it feel more lived in via references to old places and NPCs is always good I think
I think that’s worth the extra effort for flavor, even tho just changing it would be easier
dusk laurel
i feel like until theres an update for the crags, hellborn and hellkite are in the weird position where not much can really be done for them besides either changing their lore or doubling down on this detail until we get diagetic reason for finding a way to make replicas/an imitation of whatever this forgemaster made
terse moss
What is stopping us from finding the original in his old workshop like we do with the murasama
cosmic zenith
i feel like until theres an update for the crags, hellborn and hellkite are in t...
:)
I have just the idea for that
dusk laurel
What is stopping us from finding the original in his old workshop like we do wit...
are you being fr
dusk laurel
I have just the idea for that
🥹
terse moss
Just generate a structure in the crag that’s like a less advanced Draedon lab with a bunch of smithing stuff and hellforges
raven brook
The title of Demon Lord was coveted by all demonkind. Only one may exist at a time.
Any claimant who seeks the throne has a simple goal: the head of the former Lord.
Literally this
just remove the first part
it communicates the exact same message
wanton pendant
What is stopping us from finding the original in his old workshop like we do wit...
Wouldn't that be the Muramasa, since that is named after a real life forgemaster?
Regardless, neither are craftable last I checked.
raven brook
You don't need an explanation for what the blade itself is
Cuz itsj ust a sword you made
Look at the wulfrum and illmeris item tooltips -
Few of them actually direcrly reference the item you made as something unique
They instead talk about generally adjacent lore to what the item is
terse moss
Wouldn't that be the Muramasa, since that is named after a real life forgemaster...
I meant to make it craftable to better suit the replica narrative
raven brook
Look at how all of these are worded
None of them explicitly directly refer to the weapon you made
But they do generally talk about little bits of lore that make sense for the item in question
wanton pendant
They do still imply that you're recreating their equipment, even if by coincidence.
raven brook
Not really
At most maybe Cnidarian
And even then yeah its something far more crude and less specific than a whole ass exact replica of a swor
raven brook
> The title of Demon Lord was coveted by all demonkind. Only one may exist at a ...
You can just have this be the tooltip for the oathblade
And it works perfectly fien and fixes the issue
It communicates, again
the exact same message
it just dosen't directly refer to the weapon as a replica or whatever
there's already lore tooltips that follow this format ingame, no reason to not have more
and of course, as said prior
draedon's arsenal tooltips actually talk about the specific item you built
terse moss
Also, this is a stupid question, as it is likely a gameplay feature, but what about a sword’s structure would let you charge it. Like how did he fashion a sword where if you hold it above your head it becomes sharper
raven brook
but for those, it makes sense! you literally are building them off existing blueprints, youre not inventing them
agile matrix
Also, this is a stupid question, as it is likely a gameplay feature, but what ab...
willpower?
like mana
agile matrix
you take your willpower and think really really hard abt hitting your foe
visual kiln
heart full of peeb
terse moss
Not a restrictive amount
young socket
heart full of peeb
KILLS PEEB
agile matrix
I think it would be cool if the charging took mana
melee sword using mana
visual kiln
blocked
agile matrix
Bleck
terse moss
Nah but like as a side note
Like barely any
Not enough to stop you from using it ever
raven brook
It would be very bad if you made it do that actually
You simply dont need an explanation
raven brook
Terra blade swings big energy waves
U dont need to know how it works it just does
If you're gonna add mana to a non-mage item, make it an actual part of that item
terse moss
Or do like a class crossover like the Hellborn
You have a melee/ranger and a melee/mage
Charging takes mana
raven brook
Just slapping mana onto a existing item wont be good design lol
terse moss
More mana means more charge means bigger bonk
dusk laurel
nothing about hellkite seems very magical, and trying to explain everything is kinda bleh
terse moss
More mana regen means faster charge speed
raven brook
nothing about hellkite seems very magical, and trying to explain everything is k...
every projectile melee ever:
you dont need to explain how everything works, shit just does things
If u want, u can speculate on how it works as a fan of the media
its good to let people headcanon things for these sort of minor details, if they wish to do so
terse moss
I am not a fan of projectile melee from a game design perspective but that is a whole different issue I don’t feel like arguing rn
terse moss
its good to let people headcanon things for these sort of minor details, if they...
Fair
wanton pendant
The sword itself is magic, so it doesn't need to use your own, or something.
dusk laurel
terraria weapon classes are literally just based on vibes it doesnt seem like something thatd actually be in the world
young socket
magic guns
dusk laurel
like summoners are literally just magic half the time but its a separate class and also vanilla just removed mana cost for summons so
lmao
dusk laurel
magic guns
everytime i see a magic gun half of my bones shatter into a million pieces
wanton pendant
The other half of Summoner uses Melee Speed.
terse moss
I am still upset there are things that are ostensibly guns in every way but are just arbitrarily mage for no reason
pulsar ocean
isnt naming something terra blade like naming something earth blade
raven brook
@cosmic zenith Stipulate ...
light linden
random but
raven brook
Did thou see my critiques regarding the oathblade tooltips
cosmic zenith
I did not
light linden
who put lead in a bottle and made someone drink it?
wanton pendant
who put lead in a bottle and made someone drink it?
Romans?
terse moss
Flint Michigan
wanton pendant
Oh, wait, like an execution?
dusk laurel
who put lead in a bottle and made someone drink it?
this is probably just gameplay
light linden
I'm referring to the ironskin potion
dusk laurel
i dont see why this would need an explanation
terse moss
Is this the “hard water” people talk about 🤔
young socket
alchemy
wanton pendant
I'm referring to the ironskin potion
Lead was used as a sweetener in the past.
Maybe they were trying to make a new flavour of wine.
terse moss
It’s also pretty explicitly alchemy of some kind, and therefore magic I assume
raven brook
I did not
The original critique basically : #lore-discussion message
and my proposed solution (The same sort of solution would apply to its upgrade): Starts #lore-discussion message (Some additional context under it)
dusk laurel
i dont see why this would need an explanation
relogic, famously, made their items to feel realistic
terse moss
True, I have heard that
light linden
just saying
raven brook
Potions generally are meant to be fancy alchemical magical things that use wacky ingredients
Not even just in terraria
light linden
if someone walked up to me and told me to drink this liquid and I found out it had lead in it
raven brook
in most media
light linden
I would not be happy
terse moss
Spelunker is even funnier. You take a shot of platinum ore and the metal you drank like attunes your body to the metal around you or something so you can sense it in the ground
young socket
i like how a lot of things can just be explained as "its a fantasy, this generic fantasy thing exists"
cosmic zenith
I see
That's pretty fair
I would think, though, that it's not the exact same blade design
light linden
Spelunker is even funnier. You take a shot of platinum ore and the metal you dra...
iirc
raven brook
It's not yeah, the issue to me
light linden
platinum and gold aren't even half as deadly as lead
terse moss
True
raven brook
is that it implies despite there being no sort of gameplay communication of this, you somehow made a replica of this one specific weapon
terse moss
They are largely inert
raven brook
Unlike say, Draedon's arsenal
in taht case
oyu're basing them off blueprints
so yes, it makes sense they're replicas
cosmic zenith
Yeah
This is a problem in integration
raven brook
mhm
cosmic zenith
Then again, I do have an idea that could solve this, but would be tied to more extensive Underworld changes
raven brook
underworld overhaul tommorow ...
young socket
meow
dusk laurel
more vanilla biomes being unguhified...
robust osprey
I am no one
terse moss
There is just nothing there
robust osprey
literally
terse moss
I wish there was more
dusk laurel
ice biome changes with cryogen trusts
terse moss
🙏
I want the ice biome to get an underground desert style overhaul
Would be so peak
dusk laurel
ice biome changes with cryogen trusts
like we know perma did shit there and all we see are some constructs (that have old cal enemy syndrome) and cryonic ore (guh)
young socket
cant believe vanilla said "wow desert sucks lets fix that" which only made the problems with ice even more telling
terse moss
cant believe vanilla said "wow desert sucks lets fix that" which only made the p...
Yeah
Now the desert and jungle are both good and ice is just nothing
THEY EVEN REVAMPED THE OCEAN
like come on
wanton pendant
The time before the Underground Desert... can't even remember it, probably because there wasn't anything else.
wanton pendant
No way in hell that was added in 2020.
wanton pendant
It was 2015.
plucky juniper
ice biome should've had its own sunken sea 
terse moss
ice biome should've had its own sunken sea <:XD:936106628833488906>
Forgotten Glacier biome when
plucky juniper
ice biome should've had its own sunken sea <:XD:936106628833488906>
like, between it and the underworld
that might be a cool mod idea
terse moss
Genuinely yeah
wanton pendant
Underground Desert was added in 1.3.
terse moss
Sub ice biome with even colder, harder ice, stronger enemies, and a cryogen arena
terse moss
Underground Desert was added in 1.3.
Yeah but there was a revamp where they changed how it generated, added stormlions, fine strider boots, and all that stuff
plucky juniper
i like the changes to that biome because it made it quite dangerous
wanton pendant
Oh, you mean an update in Calamity?
plucky juniper
no a VANILLA UPDATE
wanton pendant
Stormlions aren't from Vanilla.
young socket
stormlions are calamity
terse moss
Wait really
plucky juniper
ya
plucky juniper
lmao
wanton pendant
Always have been.
plucky juniper
stormlions are just so engrained into our psyche that we genuinely forget its a calamity addition
dusk laurel
no a VANILLA UPDATE
you know relogic would never try to improve their worldgen to that extent
aether gen was literally in 1.4.4 and its the most ugly thing besides the ocean ive seen
wanton pendant
The horrific notion that someday someone's going to ask how to fight a Calamity boss in Vanilla because they didn't know it was modded.
terse moss
Vanilla DoG when
light linden
The horrific notion that someday someone's going to ask how to fight a Calamity ...
I mean
I could see current ravager or cryogen being vanilla
dusk laurel
this is because they reuse movement code from vanilla enemies and were made long ago
light linden
ik
I still wonder
how the hell would cryogen be reworked outside of just more magic attacks
actually this reminds me
@spare pier hey do you know which dev is working on permafrost lore?
spare pier
Currently no one
light linden
damn
uhh ig I'll just ask you
is permafrost well versed in offensive magic?
and just doesn't use it due to personal preference?
tmk we both haven't seen him fight nor have we heard of him fighting anything
dusk laurel
how the hell would cryogen be reworked outside of just more magic attacks
the magic would just have more variety than just ice spikes that get summoned id imagine, like alot could be done with ice thats not just a projectile with no unique qualities
idk im not a programmer or artist i cant actually show what this could look like other than just saying some words...
cosmic zenith
is permafrost well versed in offensive magic?
Probably
light linden
hi stip
cosmic zenith
Hello
light linden
the magic would just have more variety than just ice spikes that get summoned id...
I mean I have a few ideas
not sure how fun they'll be to fight but still
versed owl
Throw a snowball with rocks in it
light linden
main one is creating a large blizzard to make it hard to track it
dusk laurel
persmaps the reworked fight could make the construct cal made summon some of the ice enemies permafrost made as a defense mechanism,,,
pulsar ocean
who invented the wheel
thick slate
hi
long bloom
who invented the wheel
phillip wheel
graceful warren
What is the lore of the horrible hog
sinful adder
how the hell would cryogen be reworked outside of just more magic attacks
Have a phase where the shield extends while it spins to make a pattern of spikes you have to jump over, like the Roaring Knight's sword tunnel attack
long bloom
What is the lore of the horrible hog
you cannot simply describe it
you must witness the truth
and then
sinful adder
It's too horrible to describe
long bloom
everyone will understand
graceful warren
The crimes the hog has committed will be worse the Yharim
long bloom
everyone will kneel
hollow pivot
What is the lore of the horrible hog
Horrible Hog is just a random thing people make jokes about being absurdly powerful.
hollow pivot
Horrible Hog is just a random thing people make jokes about being absurdly power...
It's planned to be implemented as an NPC but is yet to actually be implemented.
graceful warren
We know but we still gonna keep on making thr jokes
patent sky
Yharim and the hog are on separate ends of the horrible spectrum
long bloom
Horrible Hog is just a random thing people make jokes about being absurdly power...
foolish oaf, you know not of the apocalypse soon to befall you
become one
or cease existence
long bloom
i pray for your salvation
but know in my heart it shall not come
thick slate
who is yharim
long bloom
who is yharim
lowes salesman
thick slate
i see it
versed owl
He wants to sell you a door
patent sky
Perhaps a table
sinful adder
Anyways I really like this idea I suddenly came up with so here's a crappy phone drawing
versed owl
Maybe. If you're feeling crazy. A lamp.
sinful adder
Cryogen spins around you at a roughly constant distance and the spike shield turns into a series of projectiles tied to a circle around it, which change their radius around cryogen to make a tunnel you have to stay inside
versed owl
That sounds like it would fit really well ngl
sinful adder
Like this!
Wait that didn't work. Hold on
There. It should be a video
Cryogen should do this
But the swords are the ice spikes from the shield
light linden
that's a bit crazy for an early hardmode boss
versed owl
I was gonna suggest it be something for infernum
sinful adder
It's just SO fitting
light linden
I do have an issue with BoC
some of its attacks feel out of place for its place in progression
not impossible but still
versed owl
What is uh, what is BoC?
thick slate
box.....
versed owl
Shhhh
light linden
What is uh, what is BoC?
brain of cthulhu
sinful adder
Brain of Cthulhu literally does the devil's knife now
I agree but at the same time it is so damn cool
versed owl
Oh is that the attack he does in revengance?
plucky juniper
the damn spike shield should probably not be a shield
versed owl
I like trying to make brain of cuthulu harder but it genuinely is so annoying
plucky juniper
infernum shows it could be used much better
light linden
not impossible but still
for some specifics
versed owl
Cryogen is just very tedious
light linden
the mass illusion attack and the blood shotgun attacks
for a boss you gotta fight in a cave those are brutal
versed owl
Just dodge
light linden
also I flat out couldn't tell what was going on in the mass illusion attack
I didn't realize I was supposed to hit the real one, I thought I was about to get charged at by all the clones
since that's what happens in vanilla
versed owl
I actually like the clone attack a lot. It literally wasn't untill last week I noticed they become more opaque the less health it has.
sinful adder
I see it as a reimagining of the second phase in vanilla
empty oak
Cryogen is just very tedious
whole lotta jumping around
bullet hell
it gets good with good flight abilities tho
versed owl
Oh not hard by any means. At least It hasn't been too hard for me. I also play expert. But it's just
He loves to not let you hit him for like 75% of the fight
Being a melee player is a pain sometimes
heavy zenith
is the astral infection going to be a pre hardmode biome at some point to line up with the story?
long bloom
is the astral infection going to be a pre hardmode biome at some point to line u...
whar
it already lines up with the story
heavy zenith
well Draedon studied with the Aureus Model in the Crusades, but in-game doesn't appear till hm
spare pier
Draedon studied the Infection in other ways
heavy zenith
i take it the Aureus Model will be changed somehow?
heavy zenith
Astral Infections first appearance after defeating WoF directly contradicts with Draedon "studying" it via mercenaries and Aureus during the Crusade
eager bluff
is the astral infection going to be a pre hardmode biome at some point to line u...
probably not
long bloom
Astral Infections first appearance after defeating WoF directly contradicts with...
he didn't study it during the crusade 
he created aureus during the crusade for a different purpose
and then in modern day he sent it to the astral
wanton pendant
Astral Infections first appearance after defeating WoF directly contradicts with...
At no point does Draedon claim this was done during the Crusade. It was done after the meteor landed.
real silo
The Pig Festival! A Terrifying Pig Day! The Pig Update! The Pig Is Coming! The T...
Wtf ravager
ravager in hog update
thick slate
why is he called ravager
dusk laurel
uh it ravages the place because its angry i think
thick slate
all that ravaging just to be skipped
dusk laurel
yeah the ravager rn is a chud
robust osprey
ravallin
thick slate
one day he'll gloop
thick slate
hes becoming gorilla
dusk laurel
one day rav will have an awesome structure,,,
wanton pendant
Where he will be able to say "It's ravaging time!" and ravage all over the place.
dusk laurel
we should be able to do human sacrifice to summon it, and i know just the person
raven brook
I was randomly browisng through the wiki and i ended up on the worldgen page
do with that what you will
dusk laurel
Parthenon and Osiris, hm, intruiging, not gonna really think too much of it
i mean the marble shrines are literally spartan themed and well the desert is very ancient egyptian themed so its probably just a neat reference and not much more
leaden bridge
heartwarming: shrine worldgen messages made before the big lore strictness hit the calamity
leaden bridge
yeah and the big lore strictness hit later
dusk laurel
i dont beliege you
leaden bridge
idt theyd dare mention osiris or the parthenon today
theyre obviously just silly references that dont mean anything
but like remember when a bunch of items got the word god removed from them
like
that was psot fta right
wheat walrus
raven brook
Unfortunately we have to remove every item with Sun or Light on its name now becasue people will think it has to do with Xeroc
🙂↕️
wheat walrus
become xeroc
spare pier
that was psot fta right
No, that was in FTA
And like that's entirely different from the loading screen messages 😭
leaden bridge
Unfortunately we have to remove every item with Sun or Light on its name now bec...
TRUE
spare pier
The only time I ever bothered with those was with one that still called Providence the Sun Goddess
Because that was just straight up wrong
leaden bridge
idt anyone is gonna think pearl god is related to god calamity mod than someone is gonna think osiris is real because of luxors gift
who the fuck is luxor
its been years and nobody has cracked this mysterious mystery
spare pier
Ya know Pearl God is still named that right?
We mostly changed stuff that was clearly thematic and had like
Literally no reason to refer to godhood besides Hype Moments and Aura
leaden bridge
huh i swore that was one of the ones that got renamed
spare pier
Literally no reason to refer to godhood besides Hype Moments and Aura
Like Cold Divinity and Deific Thunderbolt
spare pier
Permafrost literally sided with Yharim and Storm Weaver is like as far removed from gods as possible
hollow pivot
No, that was in FTA
Who?
spare pier
ik dark gods sheath but that one like. that ones fine thats okay
That one had to go like it isn't even a matter of misnomer
leaden bridge
does providence not know its pure fury
leaden bridge
fake touhou fan?
spare pier
"Perfect fury" reads better than "pure fury"
hollow pivot
Do gods get power from being worshipped?
spare pier
Yes and no
hollow pivot
What am I waiting for?
raven brook
For the Holy fucking shit it says it right there
spare pier
Ideas
raven brook
the ideas haver
hollow pivot
For the Holy fucking shit it says it right there
“After 3 seconds in development, it hopefully had been worth the wait.”
raw nest
I know Calamitas and exo mechs are meant to be fought around the same time and are like on the same tier, but who’s actually stronger?
long bloom
I know Calamitas and exo mechs are meant to be fought around the same time and a...
all 4 mechs combined are as powerful as calamitas
that's kinda the point
robust osprey
she simply makes her brothers and sepulcher fight a mech while she kills the other 2
sounds like a plan
raw nest
she simply makes her brothers and sepulcher fight a mech while she kills the oth...
Lowkey I think sepulcher gets torn up by Thanatos but who knows
robust osprey
it does. that's why it got backup
terse moss
Sepulcher gets bodied by thanatos (probably), Ares has a ton of AoE attacks, and artemis and apollo could outrun it. My guess is that she would use it to tank hits while she and the brothers do big dps
More of a wall than an offensive unit
pulsar ocean
Sepulcher gets bodied by thanatos (probably), Ares has a ton of AoE attacks, and...
But Sepulcher is future dog
So he lowk wins
terse moss
I think that was more metaphorical, like DoG will end up being like a corpse
just a vessel animated by another power
which he kinda is
I don't think DoG will literally become a sepulcher
long bloom
I don't think DoG will *literally* become a sepulcher
joke
terse moss
Well I am more saying that in hopes that someone will either correct me if I am mistaken or tell me that I am correct, because idk honestly
long bloom
you were correct
terse moss
Yippee
terse moss
Sepulcher is such a cool design, and I wish it did more in the fight
long bloom
true...
terse moss
Like the final bullet hell it does dashes at you with the bullets and the black hole
really birng back the like 4 meteor vibe lol
hard steeple
I don't mind the role it has ngl
I like the sort of division with like
Bullet hell -> seppie -> calamitas -> family reunion -> calamitas -> the theory of relativity thrown at your face -> seppie part 2
I think that may be extremely wrong but I think that's sort of how it goes
terse moss
I just can't tell if the fight has gotten easier over the years or if I have gotten better or if the items for the fight have gotten better
long bloom
there's 5 bullet hells in total
hard steeple
Since it feels like a servant, lesser than the brothers
long bloom
I just can't tell if the fight has gotten easier over the years or if I have got...
probably the latter 2
hard steeple
I just can't tell if the fight has gotten easier over the years or if I have got...
I think it's personal skills
terse moss
Well stuff like draedon's heart and the radiance were huge, I will admit that
And the removal of stuff like the hit cap (which was horrendous and never should have been added to begin with)
and the removal of scaling damage following the hitcap
its objectively a better fight now
don't get me wrong
hard steeple
A realisation on my end was finding out my death mode run pre-golem was pretty simple, but still fun, or beating scal in a handful of tries in my rev run
hard steeple
its objectively a better fight now
I really like the vfx improvements on the fights ngl
terse moss
Like I can usually beat death SCal on like my second attempt, but I have also done the fight hundreds of times
terse moss
I really like the vfx improvements on the fights ngl
True'
the new vfx and sprites are peak
also, super super underrated change, the brimstone fireballs no longer spreading darts randomly is so peak
that was years ago but still
I appreciate it every time I do the fight
hard steeple
Cal clone vfx with the glowing arena and the projectiles is so pretty
hard steeple
also, super super underrated change, the brimstone fireballs no longer spreading...
Hell yeah
hard steeple
I still need to kind of like, figure out the bullet hell better since honestly I have trouble looking beyond my immediate surrounding so i can't escape when I'm stuck in a undodgeable situation
hard steeple
its so peak
TRUE
terse moss
I still need to kind of like, figure out the bullet hell better since honestly I...
My recommendation is to limit yourself to one axis
only move up and down unless you have to move left and right
and if you do, a teleport is always available
hard steeple
Ohh
terse moss
also, place a platform in the center so you can jump up or dip down, rather than like being on the floor
hard steeple
Yeah, I'll also need to change my dash key ngl cause thst also gets me
terse moss
Just don't take a dash for SCal
like straight up
I think just wings and nothing else is arguably too fast
you need precision movement way more than high top speed
hard steeple
Just don't take a dash for SCal
That's actually a good point, I've never really thought about it before ngl
I mean I suck at using my dashes 90% of the times
terse moss
And you get an extra defensive accessory
hard steeple
True
terse moss
thats another point. Take like 1 offensive accessory for SCal, purely for the borthers and hearts
you jsut don't need dps for SCal, most of her health is from invincibility
she has very little herself, and the phases where she can be hit, she barely attacks anyway, so you can afford to draw it out
hard steeple
I think like half my deaths were from her shooting me after another phase cause I was unfocused
terse moss
Run all the defensive stuff. I normally do rampart of deities, purity, draedon's heart, comunity, wings, chalice, one damage accessory, and then like draconic soul framgent or Yharim's gift or whatever its called
terse moss
I think like half my deaths were from her shooting me after another phase cause ...
During her phase, she throws firballs straight ahead. Move in very small increments up and down, just barely dodging the blasts
you can just inch your way up and down, and she stays in one spot to shoot her
hard steeple
Run all the defensive stuff. I normally do rampart of deities, purity, draedon's...
Farming for the community kills me 
terse moss
Farming for the community kills me <:SAD:664300899555999754>
then use affliction
or another damage accessory
or hell, even the sponge
hard steeple
True
Oh, another really funny part I love about her fight
The rematch dialogue she gets
So peak
terse moss
Also, remember the normal stuff liek fireplaces, heart lanterns, and abst statues, but you can also wire up heart statues at the bottom of your arena to a 1 second timer, they pump out a bunch, and you can get a potions worth of healing every like minute from each statue
literally free win
terse moss
The rematch dialogue she gets
true
terse moss
or hell, even the sponge
or dark sun ring
hard steeple
true
I like to think of it kinda like the shift from a life-or-death kind of fight and situation in general, kind of the cornered against a wall feel and having to struggle vs just the weight of the world (figuratively) removed from her shoulders and calamitas being able to have an enjoyable spar
terse moss
She can finally just vibe
and she isn't homeless
She is allowing herself to act her age, rather than trying to take responsibility for everything that has happened
There is finally someone else who can pick up the slack
terse moss
I like to think of it kinda like the shift from a life-or-death kind of fight an...
It is funny how she just indescriminantly slimes out your npcs in said spar tho
hard steeple
They'll be fineeee
hard steeple
She is allowing herself to act her age, rather than trying to take responsibilit...
Not only that since afaik she's like uhh, 25 ish by the event of the mod, she's allowed to live normally and sort of just
I suppose begin to process everything?
hard steeple
Cause healing from all that ain't in the cards just yet
terse moss
She doesn't have to be the "Brimstone Witch" for a little while
Imagine the tax collector approaches her and just gets sent back to hell
hard steeple
She can be the friendly witch now!
terse moss
express ticket
terse moss
She can be the friendly witch now!
hang out with permafrost again
hard steeple
"Nevermind nahhhh"
terse moss
I also think teh fact that Amidas is cool with her says a lot
hard steeple
Oh yeah amidas is lowkey goated for that
terse moss
she is fundamentally a good person, just in a cavalcade of horrendous situations
hard steeple
she is fundamentally a good person, just in a cavalcade of horrendous situations
You can say she's gone through... a calamity
terse moss
Oh yeah amidas is lowkey goated for that
Dawg if I was Amidas it would be on-sight, or I would flee the country
only two options
hard steeple
I would bail the hell out of there
If its my worlds
Since I always spend hours building calamitas a cool house
terse moss
Do you think calamitas went to a tailor before running your fade so her robes looked immaculate? They couldn't have before hand ebcause she lived in a cave alone for 6 months
the aura demanded it
hard steeple
She probably had to learn at some point especially since she's been like, the certified child soldier
terse moss
Yeah but thats liek gold trim
hard steeple
Materials is easy too, either go down the cave or raid the dungeon
terse moss
that has to be professionally done
no way she has likea whole sewing machine and roya robes on hand in a cave
hard steeple
Then she's wearing probably, in best cases, months old clothing
hard steeple
no way she has likea whole sewing machine and roya robes *on hand* in a cave
Only way she could would be an abandonned house underground
terse moss
Fair
but does she know how to sew
or like, work with gold trim
She joined the war at like 11 or whatever
hard steeple
Depending how versatile her knowledge of magic I'd she could probably get away with just crafting it
hard steeple
or like, work with gold trim
Probably not at all tbf
terse moss
She could also go to the clothier
hard steeple
Oh true
terse moss
"Hey I can remove that curse if you give me an elite fit"
hard steeple
After polter afaik the clothier doesn't have the voices in his head anymore
But yeah, between the time it takes to kill skeletron and for the clothier to move in, there's definitely timr for calamitas to get drip
terse moss
Are skeletron and polterghast related?
hard steeple
Indirectly I think?
Since poltergeist represents the dungeons' damned souls If I recall correctly
terse moss
Imagine seeing some old guy and being like "WOE, PLAGUES BE UPON YE. MAY YOUR WOES BE MANY AND YOUR DAYS FEW" and then just leaving
hard steeple
And him being cursed means he can hear their echoes
hard steeple
Shit I just remembered I don't think I ever posted that one pf2e build vaguely inspired by calamitas I was making
Which I might end up getting to try in a real game
terse moss
I kinda wish I was better at building. Its just too tedius for me
I get bored too quickly lol
I am also always really over-ambitious
hard steeple
I kinda wish I was better at building. Its just too tedius for me
It's a really good activity to just relax imo
terse moss
It's a really good activity to just relax imo
Part of it is probably a lack of free time. College has me busy
If I take time to relax I will actually fall asleep
hard steeple
If I get too stressed after a close fight or over other things, since I'm extremely easy to stress the hell out, I build if I'm on terraria
hard steeple
Part of it is probably a lack of free time. College has me *busy*
Oh yeah fair
Damn I'd almost be out of school for good I think if I still carried on 😭
Wait no nvm
terse moss
If I get too stressed after a close fight or over other things, since I'm extrem...
I destress by fighting bosses weirdly enough. Enough flashing lights to get my mind off the issue, but not difficult enough to be stressful or strenuous
hard steeple
I'd be halfway down a bachelors degree probably sobbing in a dorms, instead I get to play terraria
terse moss
Same with playing like risk of rain or something
hard steeple
Ohh fair
terse moss
enough noise and visuals to drown out the bad thoughts for a bit
terse moss
I'd be halfway down a bachelors degree probably sobbing in a dorms, instead I ge...
based
Yeah, I am doing a physics and astronomy double major, so I bet you can assume how that is going lol
hard steeple
Holy shit
I've been reading a lot on physics in my free time just because of rabbit hole and every time I feel a little scared that some people chose to study this
hard steeple
I'm not as cool, I dropped right before I could go through with starting a bachelors in history
hard steeple
Its so nasty, but also like the coolest thing ever
It is pretty awesome tbf yeah
terse moss
He doesn't let us use computational software, we have to do it by hand. I have had integrals that took me like 4 pages to simplify
terse moss
Don't worry, there is a point at which everyone is terrible at math
hard steeple
I can kinda vibe with like theorical physics since at least it has more words than numbers
terse moss
you just have to take enough classes
hard steeple
you just have to take enough classes
When the equation starts having symbols that take a whole 3 lines
terse moss
Some of my friends are taking abstract algebra and anlysis, or like topology or whatever
couldn't be me
hard steeple
If I go back I'll have to take a silly like calc class and even then I'm like oh I'm so screwed (I will beg the math knower i know for help)
terse moss
This took me like a week
terse moss
If I go back I'll have to take a silly like calc class and even then I'm like oh...
Calc 1 is lowkey goated
hard steeple
This would kill me
terse moss
probably my favorite math class ever
terse moss
This would kill me
Dawg it almost killed me
I am not good enough at integrals for this
pulsar ocean
although i'm pretty sure that line was removed
Why
hard steeple
My funniest math moment was showing up in high-school and leaving with a uhhh
24% grade
pulsar ocean
all the exhumed weapon tooltips were rewritten
Why
hard steeple
Tbf I'm already a chronic almost all 60s student
terse moss
ADHD?
pulsar ocean
Tbf I'm already a chronic almost all 60s student
That’s old
terse moss
lol
hard steeple
ADHD?
ADHD that was very much known, but also some other like evil concoction that's not known at all and everyone is wondering what it is
Wait no actually
terse moss
ADHD that was very much known, but also some other like evil concoction that's n...
Yeah I feel that
hard steeple
I forget that I now have the full trinity, since I also had anxiety on my file then
I just got the AuDHD-Anxiety mix that is super fun
terse moss
I definitely can relate. I have the whole package lol
terse moss
I just got the AuDHD-Anxiety mix that is super fun
yep
hard steeple
Hell yeah
hard steeple
The Au part was only discovered when I got into adulthood
terse moss
expect for all the times it isn't, which is always
hard steeple
That’s old
Oh no, grade numbers
hard steeple
expect for all the times it isn't, which is always
True....
pulsar ocean
that was a joke
hard steeple
Oh
terse moss
It is genuinely a miracle I have been as academically successful as I have been
hard steeple
I may be dumb 😭
terse moss
Don't worry, I did the same thing an hour ago
hard steeple
It is genuinely a *miracle* I have been as academically successful as I have bee...
I rolled the kind that would make me the most awesomesauce being in the universe if I wasn't held down by lije a thousand tungsten chains
terse moss
I rolled the kind that would make me the most awesomesauce being in the universe...
No literally
you gotta min max
but not too hard or then you get chronic burnout for years on end and a depressive disorder
terse moss
Real actually
terse moss
The all encompasing fear of regret and low self estemm are usually enough to keep me going, and when they aren't I simply have a short breakdown and go back to working
gotta maximize efficiency
hard steeple
Figured out I really enjoyed everything in my classes yet I couldn't get myself to do anything and figured from that
That something is going really wrong
terse moss
School also just is not for everyone, like structurally
I am just in school because if I am not constantly busy, I just stop and do nothing at all
I have to like edge a crashout for like 2 decades
hard steeple
Yeahh
terse moss
But jokes aside, taking breaks for passion projects is really important
thats why I got into DnD
hard steeple
I'm goated in the way I can do a shit ton in slightly less time when I'm a full efficiency
terse moss
Yeah you get like epaks where you feel like a god and then crash before and after
so you get less done total but are more efficient for that bit
hard steeple
But jokes aside, taking breaks for passion projects is really important
I was trying to finally, after a while, to properly finish a writing project but it's so funny
Since I was unhappy with how something was or I was being too perfectionist I just kept being in a cycle where every night from like 12-5am I'd just dump out a full revision of the first like 1.5k I'd have written down
terse moss
I was trying to finally, after a while, to properly finish a writing project but...
What halped for me was ultimatums. I tried and failed to write a fantasy story 4 times over the course of 6 years. I adapted it to dnd, where now 4 otehr people rely on me to do it, and I can engage with otehrs and get feedback. Its a weird grey area between passion project and responsibility that stops me from dropping it
hard steeple
Then I just didn't do any progress for the past 3 months
terse moss
Its the same thing I did for my Eagle Scout Project
hard steeple
What halped for me was ultimatums. I tried and failed to write a fantasy story 4...
I rely wayyy too much on improv for dnd and it's probably gonna hurt my dming in the long run tbf
terse moss
I am so horrendous at improve
I have like 300 pages of notes
maybe 400 by now
idk
a lot
hard steeple
Since I have a structure entirely based around like
Making potential scenarios, enemy types, and like broad things to plan out to mix and match within a narrative that I know I wanna tell
But that can adapt
My problem is speech 😭, both as a player, dm and in both prepared or improv sessions
terse moss
Also, I really do apologize, as this is very interesting, but it is 3:15am and I have a class in like 8 hours
So unfortunately I must take my leave
terse moss
nah, then oyu gotta actually talk about lore
hard steeple
Good night, and good luck for classes 🫡
terse moss
wait, I cannot let myself be distracted
hard steeple
nah, then oyu gotta actually talk about lore
That's fun too tbf
terse moss
goodnight, and good luck to you as well
terse moss
That's fun too tbf
true
hard steeple
goodnight, and good luck to you as well
Hell yeah, I should try to be evil and unleash my full potential, lock in and continue my forever stuck in stasis project
thick slate
goodnight, and good luck to you as well
goodnight and good luck mentioned
thick slate
hi
pulsar ocean
taylor mentioned
hi
warm gull
is this some kind of A Walk in the Woods?
heavy zenith
is this some kind of A Walk in the Woods?
Martin O Donnell moment
violet sparrow
"Perfect fury" reads better than "pure fury"
it dun sound good neither way it reads like a title drop in a bad superhero flick