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i need yareliโs set
but
these drop chances on relics are killing me
and then the relics arenโt dropping anythibg
I don't give a rat's ass about Yareli or the weapons
i only care since new primes always sell for 100p+ for the first coupke day / week
I might buy the accessories bundle for the plat but
I am a whale for this game, for better and for worse
Especially for worse, actually 
I'll probably pick it up for pocket change in half a year for the MR
i use the daikyu
i want better stats
The only bow I'd consider using is the funny stalker bow with the Incarnon
I just... don't like bows ig

though, i've always liked the bow since release, so i use it
I think I have the base daikyu
Actually no I think it's currently sitting in the garbage disposal like 20 other weapons that I leveled yesterday
daikyu amalgam is a mod that gives nikana lifesteal
quite valuable if you melee only with nikana
i used to use it to solo level
A weapon type I had no idea existed until 3 months ago were spearguns
afries?
afries?
or whatever its called
aburgers?
What
i use it for arbitration
afentis
yes
it's a spear you throw down and it gives you pistol buffs
itโs unique trait is great
probably great for yareli tbh
The only one I have is scourge prime
and reload speed
thats been
collecting dust
in my foundary ๐ญ
i haven't even made one ๐ญ i don't have all the parts
i have a pretty good riven for it tho
i made the original scourge, sold it immediately after levelling, and regret ever since
Scourge alt fire makes headshots easier, which plays quite nicely with knell prime, Harrow's other signature weapon
Knell is fun
Tbh I like everything harrow prime came with, including the drifter armor that I want so badly 
missing the receiver i think
ceddooooo
ah
watch me get it in
3 relics or less
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im going home
I remember getting 3 back to back rares non upgraded lmao (Technically 2 but oh well)
9th relic
i got the receiver


Holy shi' armored titan is OP asf 
@lethal pike can I get an affinity blessing
generational luck
no ๐
maybe in an hour
it lasts for 3 hours, so if i use it now i won't get use out of it after reset
Perry out here giving me some broken Yareli builds :3
yareli's passive singlehandedly makes her busted
yyyyep
this fuckin line making me think that my monitor died
no way
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lemme have both!
๐ญ wtf why is fulmin prime a design nerf
who put
HOLES
in my
SUPPRESSOR
Yay..(This is not exciting, this was fucking pain)
@wraith musk 5% chance my ass
How did I land those shots, guess I'm finally improving
every single chest should give one
Ik but aren't the chests a 5% chance
well the chest to spawn yes, but its more like 1 / 4
I've been finding them so often that I overstock on peg legs and canonballs
Canonballs are so fun to use for campments
Cannon balls are also bugged right now
They are only supposed to explode into 3 cannon balls once, but the cannon balls that break off actually do it again for some reason
it works on the lefty righty build for Ramirez too
Yeah I need to farm more hero xp to give Ramirez a go with the extra cannonball dmg
Only 65K xp ๐
bonkers
Eh I have a lot of hero dupes, guess I'll recycle them
Great, looks like i won't be able to play Stellar Blade on PC, because Sony just had to implement a completely unnecessary region block.
Welllll wellllll wellllll
Why does Sony not allow many regions to buy their game?
(on steam anyhow)
it's not that they don't want regions to buy their game
that's kind of stupid from a business perspective
it's that they're beginning to require you to have a PSN account to be able to play their games
that includes steam players on PC which doesn't make a whole lot of sense - they tried pushing that on helldivers 2 at first, but if you know anything about that, players got so mad that they went back on that
Kinda how state of decay 2 has NEEDS xbox(or Microsoft) login?
what gets people mad is that PSN itself is region restricted, some regions cannot make an account
yes
Or after 2022 some amount of people can't get out of a certain psn region (russian) to get anything digitally
so it's not that sony is specifically blacklisting some regions from playing games, but that sony's PSN inherently isn't available in some regions - effectively blacklisting regions from playing games
Which makes it shit in the first place for Sony, why not just disable the login and allow every region to play?
More money for them
that's the million dollar question ยฏ_(ใ)_/ยฏ
only sony can answer that
some people think it's because they don't want to bother with entering markets where they know there will be a smaller percentage of people who buy a playstation
some people think it's because those regions have unstable currencies
either way, the assumption you can make is that for one reason or another, sony believes that business in those regions is non-viable - and thus doesn't offer services there
But all of European union (pretty much) uses Euro?
So what kinda fucking difference would it make if they ALLOWED ALL of eu to get their games
who knows
all speculation - you want answers, you talk to sony directly, and good luck with that
communicating with japanese megacorporations is like talking to a wall
Hey uh there's a bot potentially in #gta-online channel could you do something 
make a report to @pale aurora and be specific about it with a picture or something
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also W
got her chassis neuros and bp in 1 cascade unintentionally
only need her systems now
oh right that's one of the other frames i haven't made

sand photo
are u out of duviri
whats your ign
donating to the poor 

lvl 155 wtf ?
STW gives a lot of XP, I'm around level 200 or so
what is STW exactly ? i want get fastly lvl to i am interested
oh its a principal mode
Save The World, its a blend of a few game types tbh
Mostly base / objective defence but a few offence type missions
I mostly just run a 2.5 hour base defence thats afk each day, gives a decent chunk of XP
However it needs a bit of investment of time to get setup with materials / schematics if you don't get others to craft them for you
But you can grind out easy lower missions for XP too
Depressing llama again
I don't need some fucking melee weapons when I'm sticking with the Corsair
@jade scarab wake up tenno it's time for your 4am affinity booster session
Is it made by other players?
Don't know about boring
Only gets boring when you're handed maxed out meta weapons early in the story
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Kinda hilarious that best console to play Xbox studios title is going to be PS5 Pro 
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Maybe a little too much pink lmao
everybody in that city is on drugs for some reason
i love games that let you fly above the clouds
All my homies love just cause 3
That's not even me being funny, they all do like the game
medici is facing chemical warfare
what are you supposed to do when an flying warship starts hitting you with an orbital cannon
"what you're seeing is advanced warfare" ahhh
What difficulty/mode were you playing on? Casual or simulation?
casual
i was gonna switch to simulation after getting used to it a bit
Yeah that's why then. Simulation is a lot more realistic. In casual they make it so it's easier for you to arrest/give people tickets and/or multiple at once
i lose conduct points for the silliest things that the handbook doesnt even cover
But I get what you mean. I arrested someone earlier at an accident scene because they tested positive for not cannabis but the other drug as well as had an illegal firearm with no permit and a switchblade on them as well as 2 more in their car ๐คฃ
I also arrested some lady bc she had a stolen ID and when searching her car she had a fking ninja star ๐คฃ
That was all on casual tho mind you
theres so many broken things in this game
they let you respond to major accidents before you can provide first aid
so you just cant interview one of witnesses
you can get a response but nothing else
does the intuition system go away on simulation
Yeah lol. Apparently they're still developing the game too. The season pass on the store says multiple things in it will release in 2025 or 2026 including another expansion ๐
Someone actually knowing JC3 is elite knowledge 
Just Cause 2 and 3 were the best in the series fr
the bavarium wingsuit is free bombing runs
Only played 3 (with all DLCs) and 4, but 3 is just sooooo good
i wouldnt be able to do half the things i do without it
Also, why are you now green?
Yeah once you have it, without it will feel very strange
I really hope Square Enix makes another one and learns from how much better 3 was then 4
Who me?
Yes you, why did you join the dark side? 
Yeah no i gave up my hopes for a JC5, because there is no way they will ever create it
I still have my Ps5. I originally had the Series X role first before he PS role. But I'm not supporting Sony anymore. Not after they canceled the Stars rewards program and are in talks about increasing the prices of PS Plus again for potentially the 2nd time in the same year
Yeah. One can only hope tho
to be fair theres no reason to support xbox either
they keep raising gamepass prices and taking away benefits
Alright fair point... also tf you mean they are gonna increase the PS+ prices?
I hope you are lying because i aint paying 10โฌ a month for a sub 
I'm not. They already increased the price of all versions of PS Plus in Canada with Premium now being $24.99 plus tax when that's what it was before after tax. And I read an article on Twitter (I think it was) about that they're in talks of raising it again after the Stars rewards program ends
Oh, yeah Canada has its own problems so it doesnt affect me really
Ima be honest I've never played a Mirrors Edge game but I've always thought about giving one a go
some people didnt like the second one but i loved it
Yeah. I'm assuming it's just Canada and the US because of all that but I'm not entirely sure
Well whatever, funny enough i can still buy 60โฌ subs for a year here lol
Well if i find one in media markt ofc, which isnt even that hard
Yeah true. But it's not as much as PS plus at least and you still get a heck of a lot more vaule with game pass currently then PS plus
There isn't even as many exclusives on it anymore
Like they removed all the spider man games so the only worthwhile ones are The Last Of Us Part 1, Days Gone and Ratchet and Clank
tlou, gt7, dbh, GoT, GoW, uncharted, death stranding,
Plus their monthly games have been ass the past how many months
huh
What's dbh and GoT
wdym they removed spiderman
I guess i will admit there's more variety in exclusives then game pass but game pass has a lot better day one releases
The Miles Morales one. It's not on PS plus anymore
im also just really spiteful because they gave sony sea of thieves and forza for nothing
and just everything microsoft has been doing recently
And soon to be Gears of War

Nvm i thought it was Miles Morales that left PS plus. It's Infamous Second son that I was thinking of. I knew it was some sort of Sony exclusive
You are upset that more people get to enjoy things
Exclusives shouldn't be a thing
It would encourage either playerbase to buy a console without people saying "Oh why would you buy that console? The exclusives suck"
Game Pass gets you cloud gaming on whatever device and has the good Bethesda titles on there
There's also the free movies they've given like you could get SAW for free during Halloween last year
Improving but might stick to bass tbh
I'm officially almost done with playing the entire doom franchise (minus dark ages) just got eternals dlc left and ill be done
I can finally consider myself a gamer for having played classic doom
Felt fraudulent to claim to be a gamer despite not having played one of the most iconic cornerstones of gaming
Oh yeah they recently added a lot of retro games too
Game pass vs game catalogue, wonder which is better
Are they really?
oopsies
What did they take away

Battlefront 2 hit a new peak last night: 176,000 players.
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๏ธ๏ธ#MakeBattlefront3
im upset that microsoft is giving away the things theyre known for and getting nothing in return
if xbox got something of value โ like one of sonys exclusives โ it would be another story
Yeah but its sony
Them mfs aint giving a fuck bout xbox so long as they got their own library and cloud gaming thing
Although forza did make it into playstation
So yknow
Theres hope
BF3 ain't happening
technically it didnt
Yes that's what I used
but then it got added in an official update
yeah โcyberpunk photo modeโ
kid me would be so. proud.
Genuenly one of the best games i ever played
This could fit more in the #gta-storymode pal
my apologies as i have no idea how i missed that channel
Mr grind is so booring
@wraith musk @wicked apex Either of you availible to run a couple stw matches together for the new event
Yeah. How many matches?
Just till we reach 60K XP, might have to do this a couple more times when the same quest comes out again
Gotta earn 60K XP in creator and epic matches for the new event
It doesn't appear in the stw quests tho?
@hasty viper LMAO Embark added a goofy hammer skin
Only br and creative
"Earn XP in By Epic experiences in a party with friends"
They mentioned STW in a vid too
Yes but if you go to save the world in the lobby and then go to quests it's not there
@wicked apex
It does say stw in the video ik but it's not in the quests menu under stw
I'll do 1 match and check and go from there. Bc I'd rather not continue if we're not earning any event rewards from it
Inv
We'll just do whatever
Holy shi' my friend and me cooked 
@wicked apex Got it done
Yep
We will do it again when they need another 60K for epic experiences if you're cool with it
Yeah
Just when they pop up
There's no more quests till tmr morning
Though I can probably do the creator ones with another friend since we do zone wars often
go into ESO with an affinity blessing or booster
do all 3 weapons slots at once
melee secondary and primary
and even companion if need be
Gotcha. I'll need someone to do the creator one's with if you're down
Also are you any farther in Plank quests yet?
Page 7
Nice. Getting closer to where I'm at
Ill probably be playing stw sunday since I have plans for later today and tomorrow
ahh
i just get a clan member to farm it for me
better that way
have to press a couple buttons every two minutes
and for the rest of jt just relax or watch tiktok
I just have too much stuff
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A friend of mine has been wanting to get broken war because he crafted fixed war and look what I got from stalker

i never seen war referred to as fixed war before ๐
to hard farm it, you'll have to buy stalker beacons from baro
which is already better than before, because they didn't use to exist
speaking of, i need to buy g3 beacons to finish the brakk ๐ญ 4 barrels 0 receivers
Well..
Am I wrong?
it is certainly one of the interpretations of all time
broken war
can be bought
for 50k cephalon standing
ob nevermind
that is the war
not broken war
Ig I can now make fixed war
you can fix your war 
@lethal pike @bitter prawn @true sedge what grinding does to a man ๐
what the sigma

Also I became friends with a Excal Prime user WHO HAS THE NVIDIA SKIN. I had him take a pic of it all on
@wraith musk can you share your best solider loadout for stw? I wanna start branching out a little. Plus I need a solider for my daily vbuck quest lol
I used to main rescue trooper havoc before I switched to outlander
What ability or buff are you going for?
Uh idk tbh. What's the best nowadays?
most people go with minigun for soldiers
or an AR buff loadout
You said something about sub commando Jonesy the other day I have him so let's do that
Well, Sub commander jonesy in commander
then for abilities (won't matter what hero since most either have or support the perk for them)
- Boomstick!
- Snowin' Commando (Sgt. Winter Exclusive)
- Ain't done yet (Jonesy perk)
- First cup of the day (Ted Perk)
- Battle Beat
Stationary turret
Ardenaline rush
Happy Holidays loadout perk
Thats more of an infinite minigun but its quite good
What heros are battle beat an boomstick from?
Boomstick is from the chrome jonesy soldier one (I forgot the name of), battle beat is from one of the RAD heros I believe, she reduces your ability cooldown
Gotcha. And what Jonesy is the ain't done yet perk from?
Sergeant Jonesy
Ight. So chrome Jonesy is the only one I can't get atm
Is there a temporary replacement you recommend for the time being?
Im not really sure, you could just have havoc in place of it really since he gives assault damage
True. I'll do that then for the time being
I think i missed chrome Jonesy at one point in the llama shop but I'm not sure
Nvm i don't think he's been added yet to the event store so there's still a chance this year 
I think chrome Jonesy gets added soon
Oh also, fuck you Epic for giving us 2 super melee llamas in a row, no one is gonna spend 1K tickets for a melee schem
What do y'all think of zenless zone zero
Me when Earsplitter or surround sound:
Gonna try the game when it releases on Xbox
I need to see the jiggle physics myself
Next update got a fine shyt of a character and I will be pulling
I need to get Zhu Yuan
@true sedge haha
This was the end of session, my hands couldnt anymore 
Also dont leak my @ ๐
Damn, hope your hands recover soon
ty
Shit๐
@wicked apex @wraith musk Should I get the Jeep or the Mando bundle
I'm kinda steering from the Mando bundle due to the fact I got a feeling I'll just end up sticking with Jar Jar and Vader
Mando I would say probably
Alr
sell r10 mods im assumingv
?
That, as well as Yareli sets
Might even get burnt out with the pace I'm going lmao
i despise farming new primes
which is odd considering they sell for loads
rn iโm seeing people sell her for 90-120p
i just cannot bring myself to farm her relics
especially axi Y1
iโm about to run a neo n11 4b4r
hoping for atleast 12/27
my last 4b4r was awful
5/27
good lord eta makes me sleep
Here's my Game collection yall. Now rate it 

anyone here plsying forza on ps5?
No.
Then dont reply 
I can't quite put my finger on it, but there's something wrong about the oldest game in the stack being only one of two on the newest generation of console. Because of THAT, it's a 7/10
Ok fine i give it a 9
You mean forbidden game 5?
Aint no way thats the oldest game i actually own lol
Thanks 
True technically minecraft is older maybe a couple others i dont know about but idk.. its.. its just crazy. I feel bad it's like, I'm sorry the game industry is so trash we're still playing games that are over 10 years old because the new ones suck
Games 10 years ago are way better then those that released after 2020
I swear something happened after 2020 that made games so boring, not sure what, but definetly something
Any game developer spearheaded by a large multi million dollar corporation is enough to be cautious, that's the pattern I've noticed. It's these damn corpos, choom.
saw just cause 4 and wanted to throw the pile away, but Second Son cancels out JC4's awfulness. nice collection
Maybe they have it in their collection because like...just cause? y
The circuit is so boring
Lockdown prob
Definitely have bangers
Story games I mean rdr2 G.O.W Batman also Spider-Man ac unity and gta overall a good 7
One of those games is a paperweight now
I also have disk version but buy everything digitally cause I'm too lazy to change the disk everytime lol
Haha, but i like collecting games so i buy them always physically 
Holy shi' cyberpunk got increased by 43 cents, i should go buy it before it hits 60โฌ
Next NFS game title was teased in this promo.
NFS Legends could release in 2027
Not quite
That "NFS Legends" BRZ is just the BRZ from the NFS 2015 E3 demo
JOOOOO WTF. I swear i got real lucky when i got the game for only 50 bucks 
Does umbra have an actual name or is he just known as Dax Umbra
I mean (almost) every Warframe was a person before they were turned into a Warframe
Nfs rivals mentioned
10/10
This orowyrm is getting on my nerves
I just get hit by what looks like a red kamehameha
Good game ngl
But havent played it in a while (probaly 2 years by now)
Just wish the game actually paused
You're still suspectible to cops because the game still goes on while on the map, even in SP roams
Is it a giant fireball when you're chasing after it trying to latch onto it
Throw your orvius at it
So I should always be looking at the wyrm to see if it's about to do that thing?
Unless you're right in front of the wyrm you'll have more than enough time to see the fireball coming at you
That's how you catch up to it anyway, you're supposed to throw the disc at it
You are talking about the part where you transfer into the wyrm right? Not the final fight in the colosseum?
I think it mightve been it's frontal attack
It'll throw the fireball at you wherever you are
What activity are you doing
I was doing the full duviri thing
This... game... is so FUCKING UNFAIR on the highest difficulty!!! 
Anyone have any game recommendations
Shadow of the Colossus
what type of genre you are looking for?
Anytime with a good story
Anything
rdr2, farcry 3
Assassin's Creed
Cyberpunk
Went in overprepared
Didn't really need to focus on this atlas when my walls are fully upgraded metal with over 50% in increased health and tar pits
Think the health was like 9K
@charred jackal @wraith musk or anyone else that plays stw, any of you guys need any heavy ammo before I destroy all of this? Trying to free up space. Free of charge of course
I'll take 2K
I've only got 261 rn
Wait nvm I'll just do 1K
Max capacity
I absolutely love this gameplay, too bad it's a gacha๐ฅฒ
You can take it all for I care if you have the storage space in your home base. Or I can hang onto it and you can grab some as you need it
I'll take 5K then
Itll probably last me like the entire game
Since I only ever use heavy bullets for bows
Heavy ammo isn't used enough, also I will never ask or need handouts from anyone here. I have max inventory and storage of basically everything I'd need, if I need more, Ill craft it, Im not ever going to rely on others for things in-game, one of my things
Hello folks im new to gta and this server, pleasure to meet you all
Yeah. I made the mistake of hanging onto it all from storm shield endurances ๐ญ๐คฃ
Should see me hanging onto 1.5K tickets just cause this week's llamas haven't been that worthy
Hopefully tonight's is
3 or 4k would probably do you plenty but whatever you want I'll be happy to have it gone lol
I've got almost 1.9k myself and 20k+ gold ๐คฃ
Oh wait quick question, I notice that some trap perks heal a structure every 10 secs but it doesn't stack
Would that non stack apply to heros too
That i do not know. @wraith musk knows more about stw then I do so maybe she knows
Would be nice healing 7% of a structures health every 10 secs
Ofc I can do 11 with Knox in the lead but base kyle would be better
it doesn't stack with other trap perks that have the same benefit, it however stacks with BASE perks
Base perks of the same kind will not stack however it does take whichever has a higher value
Perfect
Anti air healing roofs seems like such a good counter to the annoying lobbers
I'll jump in with you after I eat dinner and do the dishes to give you that ammo. I'll ping when I need an invite
Alr
@wraith musk is there a website or server that has a list of all schematics with all the best perks for each one?
If not then I've got a lot of questions about what's the best schematics and the best perks on them ๐ ๐คฃ
Jacks revenge is a powerhouse when you run double headshot dmg with reload speed
I can look
Ill dm it to you
Appreciate it
@wicked apex If I'm in a match with a friend when you get back just send an invite and I'll join when the match is finished
Guys rate my top 50 games list, my repertoire of games is pretty low so I admittedly for the last few just had to think of games to fill the list even if I didn't like em that much
rocket league lol
Bro put Fortnite and Rocket League over Dying Light, Doom Eternal, Spider man, Horizon ZD, Super Mario 64 and Just Cause 3 
I can explain
It's not there for battle royale
It's there mostly for the campaign mode, the true game. Not the goofy ass battle royale also partly the lego mode, actually fun, it's probably like 80% the campaign, 15% lego fortnite, 5% battle royal because of the early days
Whats wrong with Rocket league?
I got nearly 500h in that game
What about RL then? That game is definitely not better then Dying Light let alone the others I mentioned
Listen man, idk why but I liked trading items and sht on that game, I did it more than play the actual game lmao, there's also the fact the game has probably made me laugh more than any other game by a significant amount, I've cried laughing a few times while playing it with friends, you gotta understand, for some of the games here my enjoyment of them is pretty relative to each other, and some are definitely interchangeable depending on the day. But I just have more endearing memories of Rocket league than the games you mentioned.
I still would rate all the games you listed like a 7 or higher
I can respect this. I've met some of my lifelong friends on Fallout 76 and that's not the most overly great game rating wise
Exactly, the point of preference is you might have had a better personal experience with something than someone else did, I think most gamers have the titular "most fun multiplayer" for them, Rocket league just happened to be that game for me
how many of those are hours are ranked gameplay?
Maybe like 250-300h? 100-150h mightve unironically been spent trading/looking to trade with people just sat in the lobby, I didnt play casual much, so the last 50-100h were maybe that
That playtime is over the course of like 8 years so my memory is foggy
In all fairness, if I was ranking any game, I'd rank them off how much I enjoy over play them, if something is multiplayer and has a good campaign, its going to get a fairly high spot, like I love call of duty games for instance, however even if someone hates a game I like Ill respect their choice since I know not every experience is the same
This is true and I can respect that. I was just curious as to why OP put Rocket League over the other games I said
@charred jackal I'm gonna drop it all just take whatever you want
Yeah. It's an afk base
This timer is pointless
Fr lmao
@wicked apex @wraith musk Epic lowkey gotta get their shit together, super melee llama 3 days in a row
dredge is so good
I got it on mobile
Ik
controller aim
Spreading democracy or some sh
Average Mjolnir MKIV fit
Yo helldivers is so fun
yo any1 play bedrock mc
Now, say whether spending $4000 on a PC build is better than $500 consoles or not when the prices for a 2013 game are same for both the platforms in 2025
$4000 ๐ค whar?
Sure, but there other options of buying ghost cheaper. This is also Activision being Activision
Definitely donโt need to drop 4k on a PC and Iโd take a PC over a console any day since it can do significantly more than my console can.
moreover, are you aware that a console-equivalent performing computer can be built for under $1000?
amortizing the costs of console subscription service, your pc pays off within two years
If one already owns a desktop with iGPU (like hd 4000 + i5 3rd gen) or a similar spec laptop (for portability) for various work like document related, web browsing, content watching, programming and photo/video editing (which doesnโt require dGPU) then owning another $2000+ PC just for the games doesnโt make sense
Yes, but if one only builds a gaming PC just to play the games only and that too with a controller and TV then getting a console could be a better deal
Yes hence why I said โyou donโt need to drop 4k on a pcโ
Even one for just playing games
But what about the modern titles or games from 2025 onwards?
i mean sure, but this is common knowledge...? nobody who buys a computer is buying a computer only to play games
and besides, i'm not sure why you're then comparing it to computers four, even eight times the price?
you're comparing sports cars to super cars
how much money do you think a company would make if they made games with minimum requirements that demanded a $4000 pc
a majority of your modern recently released games can run on a 3060
the least optimized game i play right now, monster hunter wilds, which released like three months ago, can run on a 3060
the baseline is this:
1: you don't need a $4000 pc to play call of duty ghosts
2: you don't need a $4000 pc to play modern games
3: consoles have always been a better value proposition for casual gaming because
a. the manufacturers have historically almost always sold them at loss
b. their specs do not need to be equivalent because consoles have the same hardware that game developers can optimize their games for to an extreme, whereas pcs will always have variation in hardware that is impossible to account for
b2. because of that, the games themselves are inequivalent because they're coded differently - that's why there are console and pc ports of games
4: if you built an equivalent performing pc anyways, it'd only cost roughly twice the price - but you'd make that up within five years of ownership just based on how much console subscription services like PS Plus cost, and how many cost-saving measures such as regular sales on platforms such as steam or gog, free egs games, or grey market/alternative methods of acquiring things
5: nobody buys a computer just to play games because point 3, arguing this is like fixing a boxing match
$4000 pc to play call of fucking duty ghosts, bait used to be believable
Lmao
to satiate my curiosity, i searched and found that someone on reddit last year specced out a pc that was superior to the ps5, that cost $753.91
LTT linus, using second hand parts, built a pc roughly equivalent in spec to the ps5 for $500
of course, used to new is an unfair comparison (even though used ps5 prices are hardly lower than msrp half the time)
What's even equivalent to PS5? It doesn't use parts from the market, everything is custom tuned
Even if we say performance wise, it's capped to 60fps on most games
And has a processor bottleneck 
yeah, they're custom components that game developers then optimize specifically for that hardware, it's really difficult to get close to that level of price-to-performance with generic parts
console gaming has always been cheaper in the short term, it's when you factor in the cost of games and online subscriptions that the prices can become roughly equivalent in the long term
I see
But as you said, no one will buy a computer just for games
It's dumb
It also takes more effort to keep a pc running tbh
A lot of errors to be fixed and performance needs to be optimised for that specific build
Consoles are just plug and play
yeah, that's another reason they're better for casual gamers
less bs to get into
because i was curious again, i decided to compare the prices if i assumed that a person who was choosing between the pc the guy specced out on reddit last year (that is superior performance-wise to the ps5, so not particularly fair but whatever) as well as the bare minimum of peripherals that were some of the first things that i found just searching off google versus a ps5 + 4 years of ps plus subscription
not realistic, and because i haven't confirmed the present prices of the pc components, at least 1 year out of date - but i can't imagine they're more than +/- $50
addendum notes: the guy specified that the stronger build seemed more value-for-money than a build that actually mirrored the ps5's performance, and also admitted that the case was overkill and the psu was chosen specifically for future upgrades
source: https://www.reddit.com/r/buildapc/comments/1b5ipe0/comment/kt61lpa/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
so in the long run, the ps5 + 4 years of paying for PS Plus is within $100 of a build that some random guy on reddit specced out that happened to be superior to the specs of the ps5 anyways
for the difference of that amount, what you get on pc is versatility in function, game modding, access to more sales and different storefronts like steam, egs, gog, access to grey market or alternative methods of acquiring games or software such as humblebundle
if none of that matters to you, well shit, welcome to the console gamer club
but if it does, you're not spending a whole lot more in money... for a whole lot more in features
in the end, different purposes for different people
and nowhere near $2000 or $4000 or whatever kind of nasa computer you want to pretend that everybody on pc owns
Pretty much said everything you could say in an argument like this one lol
A vast majority of pc users arenโt using the best of the best hardware either. People are still playing modern titles with 20xx or 30xx series cards and their amd equivalent. Same with CPUs
and i'm sure it won't be read, like 90% of the things i say when i put actual effort into writing
If it makes you feel better I read the majority of it
I know last year or the year before, Steam released a hardware survey that showed exactly what % of people were running with xyz
Just wouldnโt make sense for devs to optimize games based off of high end hardware
right, i read that
everybody was still running 1650's, weren't they
in 2023, it shifted from the 1650 to the 3060
crazy
https://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/videocard/ still the 3060 (it says 4060 laptop on top for april by a difference of 0.27%, but this is only one month + april isn't even over yet)
Yeaa but most gamers dont really learn how to mantain a pc sadly
They just assume its plug it in install some drivers and thas it
Not really a pc has a ton of stuff to correct
Optimization of the system, fixing clock speeds to get good fps, regularly checking up on the pc so it doesnt get dust and replacing the thermal pastes once in a while
Yea its a lot of work but it is worth it
But expensive rig is still required for PC players if they were to play at 2k 120+ fps with max settings otherwise it just wouldnโt make any sense to build a gaming PC (if one were to switch between low and high settings just like developers optimize on consoles)
I donโt know why you have stated the sales on different platforms but itโs also rare as also the games still have similar prices when compared to consoles
Some people do have PCs or laptops for different work like the work and gaming pc.
Also, I donโt know how you said that PCs with dGPUs (that require extra PIN or Power connectors via. power supply) could last for 5 years when the life span of those dGPUs could be up to 3 years.
Nope, their only option is to either upgrade the GPU or the whole system but they may not prefer to do so
If a PC player is literally playing a title on medium settings and at whatever resolution then the experience is just gonna get ruined and console over here could help a lot
Either way the total prices are gonna be the same in the long run I.e for PC itโs hardware wise (if you take the sales for games from 100 different sources into the consideration) while for consoles itโs software wise
Itโs like smart TVs should not exist for streaming or watching movies if one were to hook up only computers or computers offer better Netflix streaming than smart TVs
man all of these points are so bad i don't even want to respond
but this one is so stupid i have to
Also, I donโt know how you said that PCs with dGPUs (that require extra PIN or Power connectors via. power supply) could last for 5 years when the life span of those dGPUs could be up to 3 years.
look at steam charts and see what cards are at the top
fax my brother
hint: most of them are well over 5 years old
Compared to LP GPU (without extra power connectors) they wonโt last that long
For example, a 4070 could last for 3 years with everyday usage but a 1050 Ti (LP GPU) will last for 8 years at least
tell that to all of the people still rocking 1080tis
which is what, 8 years and change old
Honestly for my lifestyle building a pc aint worth it for me since i am moving a lot, iv been using nvidia's geforce now cloud gaming service, gaming on the go, dont even have to set up a lot of things just click and play
Still doing fairly decent in some modern games
And damn deserving of it too
They may not have told you about how many times they had to disassemble it for thermal paste.
Here, the LP lasts without thermal pasting (although most people still apply paste)
so, in your terms a card "doesn't last" if you have to replace the thermal paste?
god this is fucking braindead
Nope, the power connectors could fail or even damage both the GPU and PSU whereas LPs donโt have those connectors which helps them last long
just like the pcie slot could fail
Donโt you know that the power connectors melted in 4000 series cards a year ago?
yes, and there's a very specific reason why that is and why it doesn't happen to cards that use regular pcie power connectors
this is like saying that cars that use oil don't last because you have to change the oil
or that timing belts don't last because ford had one absolutely terrible engine with belts submerged in oil
no, not really, as there aren't thermal paste-less video cards
How many times did you purchase dGPUs? Can you tell me your count?
If itโs less than two then youโre just lucky enough that they lasted for you
In my case, I had to replace 4 GPUs that had power connectors and then I finally settled with 1050Ti for longer lifespan
a lot
gtx 770
gtx 960 x2
gtx 1060 x2
gtx 1070ti
rtx 2070 super
rtx 3070
rx 6950 xt
at least those
more that i cannot immediately remember
Youโre a great collector though!
Why didnโt you settle with one or why did you switch to the higher ones in these 15 years at least?
new demands, higher income
If you have 3 gaming rigs and a mansion in some remote island then youโre excused!
i bought the 3070 when pcs were ridiculously expensive because i got it for a decent price, then upgraded to the 6950 when things were a bit more reasonable
Why not 4000 series RTX instead of AMD?
You donโt get some features like CUDA, PhysX, Ray Tracing with AMD cards
wasn't out when i bought it and i cared far more about rasterization performance
and amd cards do have ray tracing
AMD cards do suck when it comes to emulation like RPCS3, Xenia and PCSX2 (XEMU and Duckstation could work)
I heard that they have FSR instead of DLSS
and neither of those have anything to do with ray tracing
But donโt you emulate games on PC considering your rigโs higher specs?
no
This is entirely subjective. Devs wouldnโt offer that option if it would ruin the experience.
I genuinely think that entire statement is just flat out wrong entirely
I doubt most people are playing games mainly for visuals
Itโs also a subjective opinion as PC is meant for higher FPS and higher graphics.
And people would have these two reasons when it comes to PC gaming unless theyโre only First Person Shooters game players.
As most of them say about the sales from different sources on PC, could only be the neutral reason for PC gamers.
Got into playing Fallout 4 again, I didn't even realize it takes place in Massachusetts my home state!
Massachusetts is the last state i'd ever remember as a geography expert 
Apparently the games The Sinking City, and the The Last of Us takes place in Massachusetts.
So, are you alive or dead?
Wdym
Surely not the larger variety of games compared to console, but the selling point is higher graphics? Iโd put higher graphics as a dessert. Thereโs so many other things Iโd put before higher graphics in a PC v Console debate
Goddammit
This reminded me that i still have all those stupid things to do in fallout 4
Like what?
im doing side quests for HSR again and oh my god, YUKONG HAS A KID!??!!?
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Metro 2033 is free on Xbox rn, don't need GP
But expensive rig is still required for PC players if they were to play at 2k 120+ fps with max settings otherwise it just wouldnโt make any sense to build a gaming PC (if one were to switch between low and high settings just like developers optimize on consoles)
this is incredibly stupid, you don't switch settings to optimize and you don't play settings you can't afford to run, and most importantly, you don't get to decide what makes or doesn't make sense for other people to buy gaming pcs - a whole bunch of people are happy enough playing 1080p60 on an office computer that they got for $300
I donโt know why you have stated the sales on different platforms but itโs also rare as also the games still have similar prices when compared to consoles
because there are more options on pc, meaning there are more sources of discounts, meaning in the grand scheme of things, your total cost of the same basket of goods is lower
i don't intend to start teaching you economics here, but it clearly is not "similar" pricing if i can get a game i wanted for free off egs or for pennies from humblebundle
Some people do have PCs or laptops for different work like the work and gaming pc.
yes, and i do - we are talking about single desktops here
Also, I donโt know how you said that PCs with dGPUs (that require extra PIN or Power connectors via. power supply) could last for 5 years when the life span of those dGPUs could be up to 3 years.
this has already been addressed precisely by amphenol who is more knowledgeable than i, and we have previously already addressed this when monarkey brought up the steam hardware surveys anyways: the top gpus on steam's hardware survey are currently the rtx 3060 which is over 4 years old, and previously, the gtx 1650, which is over 6 years old
the card which i used to run is the gtx 1050, which is still a popular budget card, is 8 years old
another popular card is the gtx 1080, which turns precisely 9 years old in two days
???
why is this a problem for pc but not for console?
monster hunter wilds does not run perfectly on ps5 either?
moreover, playing on medium ruins the experience? the fuck kind of elitist mindset?
i guarantee you very few people are disassembling their graphics cards to apply thermal paste
that is incredibly technical, much more so than reapplying paste on a cpu
Itโs also a subjective opinion as PC is meant for higher FPS and higher graphics.
you make this argument, but still try to compare the two in price? choose one lane dude
you can't have the performance you're expecting for cheap, nor can you have the same performance level between consoles and pcs at the same price
not to mention, if i'm seeing you make this argument now, then explain how this is relevant to your initial comparison between a $4000 pc and $500 console running a game from 2013? do you understand that all value in comparison falls apart when you hold the two things to two different standards?
"Now, say whether spending $4000 on a PC build is better than $500 consoles or not when the prices for a 2013 game are same for both the platforms in 2025"
"now, say whether buying a supercar is better than buying a sedan when the roads you're driving are city streets"
do you know what you sound like right now
I mean when you're not paying a monthly subscription and considering the fact that it's totally not like Steam hosts discounts as well
There's also the huge amount of modding capabilities
this sounds more like you don't take care of your things
have you cleaned your pc? did you put it in a dusty corner? is your power supply sufficient? is your power supply faulty? is it frying your gpu? all of these are more likely than the statistical possibility of four gpus failing
my 1050 was used by me for four years - it's now been used by my little cousin for another four years, and he's still using it
how are you going to claim that the 4070 only lasts 3 years when it's barely been out for 2 jesus christ dude
you can even compare by looking at the previous generation, 30xx series, and find out that they've still been kicking for 4+ years - my 3070 and my friend's 3080 were both purchased in early 2021
people have been using gpus that they purchased a decade ago, they eventually upgrade them when they need to or can afford to and the old one either gets repurposed into another computer or sold or given away to somebody else to continue to be used - you don't hear people throwing away pc components into the trash because "they only last 3 years", that's something you made up like every other number you've brought up here
Who plays BF5 here ?
only play 1 and 4 sorry dude 
Bro ๐๐ฝ๐ฅ
and 2042- nooo don't murder me
Not even 3?
Big sin
3 is kinda dead
i bought it, played the campaign, and found absolutely nobody in the lobbies
this was 3 years ago, can't be any better now
was christmas sale that time too
if you can't even have players during christmas break... shit, i refunded
Can't even get bf3 on Xbox without ea play
Even then I think the servers shut down for Xbox
probably
the campaign is good, it'd be probably be worth half its price if they just sold that alone
but i can't recommend it for anyone looking for the multiplayer bf experience
cuz it ded
Thank fuck I didn't assume March was the only time Skyrim would be at its lowest discount on Switch, it's $20 again
Only 1
Fuck this platinum trophy, THIS DIFFICULTY IS IMPOSSIBLE LIKE WTF
Mile High Club achievement in MW:
Never heard of that 
the original used to be like 10 bucks on sale on steam
now i can't buy the dlc on sale anymore, but i also don't know if i want to buy the "special edition"
I mean Special Edition is worth it tbh, better graphics and you get all the dlc
Anniversary is if you just want mods
Just bundled Special Edition with cc content
on pc, better graphics doesn't matter because mods have existed since like 2012 to improve the graphics
that's why we all shit on bethesda when they initially released SE
now you have to, no option ๐ you've done it again todd
Well there's still the dlc that's $45 total
released the same game with better graphics and sold it for ten dollars more than the original ๐
real, but who really buys games for asking price
skyrim and its dlc back then could be gotten for like, 20 dollars total on any regular sale
Real question that must be asked for Switch games
i'm not sure if SE is at that point yet
I loveeee paying more for a less performance game
the pain of playing on an isolated platform
switch is relatively insulated from other market competitors just by nature of what nintendo offers
means, no fat sales while everybody else gets fat sales
$10 for this game is literally giving it for free.
Or did anyone not enjoy this game?
10 bucks is a hella good bargain
yeah if you have a son/brother to play this with, get this.
it's a good bonding game
Every single settlement properly refurbished
As in make every settlement an actual settlement and contribute to the long line of trade that is established with other settlements
Wow Split Fiction will take more than Cyberpunk
Even hitman will take more than Cyberpunk
is that on japanese nintendo website?

I have it on Switch, and Ps5, but it's with ps+, if I claim a game is it permanently mine?
Probably everything
That's better then in a way
Cyberpunk 2077 is only 63gigs on my ps5
Actually there's a video
On xbox it's 66GB for the base game and 40GB for PL
You'd be suprised
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Hell I think Fortnite on Switch 2 is gonna run 60
It actually looks really good on the switch 2
Bro tf if Nintendo switch 2 is getting cyberpunk is it also gonna get (gee tee aa) at SOME POINT 
Probably 5
Probably trilogy again
Or if they remake 4, they probably will put 4 on there
No
Maybe?
But what's the point
Also I would buy the switch 2, and cyberpunk 2077, but it's $80 and I already own it for ps5
I am working a lot this summer, and taking a break from college, so I can save money for Pigeon Forge Tennessee, and next year Universal Stuidos Orlando too
If I have some to spare I'll get the switch 2
21 in November, plus bio says
GODDAYUM 
What? 
Bros an 04
Old fart
Another reason why gaming journalists are complete dumbasses
I'm not olddd
Duviri is so boring
If there's another super melee llama for the 4th time in a row on STW, I will lose my shit
Phasmophobia has got to be filled with the biggest amount of egotistical douches ever , you cant say one syllable cause they'll either kick you or shit on you for speaking without their approval
Finally, a super hero llama
@dreamy oracle 
Check the time
Oscar, mom said it's my turn on Excel
2 hours only 


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this server is beyond boosting

@wicked apex @wraith musk Did this trap ever get buffed or is it still shit
Its only good against chromium husk in the sci-fi event
you literally craft a stack, put it in storage, never use them
Drip
@wraith musk Got too paranoid again that I would be swarmed with lobbers ๐ญ, talk about wasted materials
And, once again, being the idiot I am, forgot to collect all the brick from my BASE before the end
I love spamming anti-air traps, let me get my inventory of traps really fast
Also idk about you but those blaster zombies are a pain in the ass
Straight aimbot
Ducking and weaving? Nope they still land the shot on you
they can miss, however, its worse with element types tbh
specially nature, they hit all of their shots AND drain your energy and HP which sucks
and flames are super annoying too since no matter what its taking a chunk of your hp if its high enough pl
Did stw change it so purples and higher dont lose durability
Nope
But you could probably put like all durability perks
Well not all but mostly
I have some purple lmg that used 500 rounds and didnt get a durability bar
Got a good tar pit schem with 4 durability perks and since it's mainly being used for slowness its pretty good
Neon LMG probably
?
I assume thats what it is, some weapons are buggy in the game
Is it a special weapo. With some kind of drawback
do you know the name of it?
maybe even what it looks like
Argon is an assault rifle though so thats why Im a tad confused on it, however they are both neon weapons

Oh bruh
What game is the topic
But no, all weapon rarities including mythics lose durability still
Save the World

No but its so big its like shoulder mounted almost
Flintlock pistol? Why would you use the gun if it (while standing) throws you back a Lil

Oh hell nah
Bro called it the flintknock

I mean it is a flintknock but it's not in the name and it doesn't knock back
How tf are you supposed to Call it
I use it because it's got such a high headshot dmg multiplier that I can 1 or 2 shot mist monsters
1 bullet per reload but I just have a reload perk for that too
That is honestly, not overly specific, considering LMG, there isn't all too many options
you have things like the neon LMG, hacksaw, founders drumroll, candy corn lmg, and so on but nothing is shoulder mounted asside from a few launchers or cannon-nade stuff
"shooting the weapon blasts the user in the opposite direction from where they are aiming, as well as launching whoever is struck by the weapon away from the bullet as well" is it just in battle Royale or also in stw 
if only there was a splinter knockback perk for a 6th perk ๐
so it's only in battle Royale that it happens
Wait Wall, do crit chance perks stack
I'd like to think I can just run the sword crit perk on the jacks revenge and duelist
Then go crazy with the corsair
Also I hate to think that my first legendary schematic was the nailer
Who the fuck would use that thing
Perking only stacks if it doesn't specify it stacks, and it won't stack if its the same perk as well
It will go off whatever has the highest % value for the perk, however if it doesn't specify it stacks / doesn't stack, you can do what you will with it, since some perks (for reference SMG damage) can't be stacked with hipshot (which increases Smg damage) perks for instance
Damn
food truc
nice
do you use russia too?
I haven't played war thunder but I'm gonna try it this summer 

ohh i see
hello
I like class based MMORPG like Maplestory, Trickster, Cabal, Tera..
I'm looking for recommendations.
Final Fantasy 14. Iโve never played or heard of any of the ones you named other than maple story though so idk if it fits
Very nice. I'm away at a Post Malone concert today but we can definitely play tomorrow if you want
Alr
Any of yous play Destiny 2?
what makes people cheat in video games
most of them seem to cry cheats when the eneny does 1 good play
chat is only useful in co-op situations
instant gratification
spend the time getting good or just use cheats to be "good" instantly
"cheat" 
I added guns to minecraft and someone called me a cheater
if you're worse than me you're a noob if you're better than me you're a hacker
the phrase of online gaming for the past three decades
GTA 5 exe 0xc000007b,please help fix
message #gta-tech-support with more information
this is the wrong channel and nobody can help you here
Back when it was good
Havenโt seen this game in years. Surprised itโs still going
(never ๐)
WHAT DID I DO BRUH
You ain't never played Skyrim before?
Nah I did
Oh alr
I just don't know how I got a bounty, because I don't think you get bounty from killing the imperial troopers on the way
Guess I just accidentally hit the prisoner
Real question, should I delay Skyrim on Switch again for Lexa Hexbringer and Grogu
Who? Ik who grogu is who's the other
Oh itโs gone gone
Hear me out, over-rated skin
Definitely Grogu but idk. I'm kinda with @wraith musk on that skin being overrated
I see everyone wearing it and its just an average skin
Hear me out though
It's better than the Juice Wrld skin
I can tolerate Lexas more than Juice Wrlds
thats a free skin thats also over-rated, I archived it since I don't even know who juice world is outside of they make music
Oh damn she hasn't returned that much, she didn't even appear once in Nov-Jan
Meanwhile Metallica was last seen 105 days ago
Which is similar to the amount of days the Miku Cyclone was last seen, thank fuck I didn't pass on it
@bitter prawn how do I know if I fucked up flare and lizzies dialogue tree?
you don't because talking to flare is an automatic L in the first place ๐
if people like that exist irl, i'd hate to meet them
if you wanna cheat, try this
https://kim.browse.wf/flowcharts/FlareDialogue_rom.dialogue/
Either use the flow charts tianmi posted or either wait for them to jump stop texting you altogether or you'll get "associate" instead of best friend after you complete their dialogue
Flare/Lizzie is by far the easiest one to fuck up
You can't date any of the second wave
I used this heavily to make sure I did it right
flare is also the only one with a reward if you do get through their ridiculous dialogue
Yep, just found that out today
it's just a cosmetic so whatever
the last thing i care about is running around with lizzie, so it's whatever to me
I don't plan on ever using her (it?) anyway so
If i get ghosted by someone on warframe market again I'm losing my mind
because i'm against my space lobotomite dating people and all of my hex members have "ask to date" dialogue when i talk to them anyway so if there's nothing else, i'm just gonna stop using the thing
not what i'm playing the game for
The calendar rewards
fakk.
Though that's not affected by the dialogue
the easiest person to talk to has been aoi, thank god she's based
actual normal person
It's just doing shit in Hollvania to get rewards like arcane adapters, riven mods, potatoes, archon shards
She's the most "normal" of the women, though she still has a freaky side
Eleanor's main "quirk" needs no explanation and Lettie has a pain kink
everyone has a freak side
aoi actually behaving like a human being is a relief after talking to everyone else
the drifter dialogue options for her are things i'd totally say too, so it's even easier to go through them
My sarcasm especially doesn't land well with Aoi
Eleanor and Lettie are both more receptive to it to an extent
eleanor is really patient and lenient with some of the dialogue options drifter has, her's is not that hard either
lettie, fuck, i'm tired of being blamed for random shit
don't like her a whole lot either
Yeah, distrust of outsiders will do that, and it understandably doesn't come off well in-game
And the whole unwavering-trust-after-the-crust-is-punctured doesn't work as well in games either, which is part of her story
distrust is distrust, but lettie is like dual personality "ay si amor heart heart heart happy" and then the next chat is like "you fuck you and entrati did this let me die"
it's nearly as hard as talking to flare
i have zero tolerance for that type of person irl, i barely tolerate it in a game
Understandable 
The "correct" way to resolve the disputes of that nature Lettie makes is usually calling her out on it and bringing her back to the ground
this is me every single time i look at these chats
He's my least favorite, for better or for worse
i get that these people are sorta fucked up, in a fucked up situation, but did it really have to be this difficult to talk to them
i didn't like him a whole lot particularly because he started being creepy within the first chat but because he's actually reasonable and easy to deal with, he's definitely better than like half of the cast
Arthur has my least favorite personality of the six
i get that
i've had experience with personalities like his though, so it isn't that bad to me
Most of the other hex point out how broody he is and half of his early chats just invoke a "my god man just get over yourself" attitude
I'm a cynical and occasionally bitter person so that's probably why Lettie isn't my least favorite
Takes one to know one
Lettie hates entrati, hates her situation, hates that she's stuck here for eternity stitching up people magnetized to gunfire
i do appreciate how i understand lettie's spanish despite knowing zero spanish
I wish I understood exactly what she says because I just like knowing absolutely everything I'm seeing but there's enough context clues that I "understand" most of it


