transportation

[old sedge]

Koenigsegg Agera RS, Koenigsegg Regera, Lamborghini Centenario, Nissan R92CP Race Car and Toyota TS050 Hybrid

Then I'll have trucks since trucks are separate from cars. 😂

[kind osprey]

I like this list

I forgot about the f1 dang The Pagani would almost be as much so i think i might auction it off for $17mil and swap it lol

[uncut saddle]

Smh

Imagine forgetting about the f1

[blissful lagoon]

1996 dodge viper GTS-R, dodge daytona, Plymouth superbird,1978 dodge lil red express, 1968 Dodge dart HEMI super stock in Orange

Mostly boomer shit

[buoyant vigil]

no jesko

[old sedge]

I like Regera better. 😂

[buoyant vigil]

tbf regera is nice as long as you dont let the battery die

aka every single supercar/hypercar but its worse with the regera

[old sedge]

I love Agera because of Need For Speed movie.

[proper elbow]

5x F&F cars

[royal gulch]

2021 Lotus E-R9 Concept

The E-R9 has a proposed system of ‘morphing’ surfaces that can change on demand to guide airflow

[languid sparrow]

my pics, need links ;-;

[ocean rock]

Unlimited money but no mention of maintenance, so:

1. Koenigsegg Gemera (solely for garage queen)
2. EK Honda Civic Type R (daily)
3. C8 Corvette Z06 (track)
4. Dodge Ram 1500 Diesel (camping)
5. Trailer home (camping #2)

[kind osprey]

ah an rv

clever

[ocean rock]

I would buy the trailer home thats detachable so i can have a flatbed as well

[heady swift]

I'd buy the most valuable cars in the world, sell them to keep the money and probably buy a volvo or something

maybe an evo tme which will never be driven

efficiency + practicality > fun

[ocean rock]

^

[kind osprey]

I would actually want to keep the five cars I chose but in reality I wouldn’t be able to unless I was already rich and able to secure and maintain such iconic irreplaceable things

So I would probably sell one or two

Keep the gt40 and the 250gto because those are priceless and only go up in price

I wonder how it is to insure one of those

[heady swift]

probably through some vague swiss company

[kind osprey]

Gotta keep the taxes low

[spiral cedar]

i want this

[restive junco]

it probably insures like art or something

[placid spruce]

https://www.quora.com/How-do-I-get-the-proper-license-to-own-a-tank-with-a-working-gun-in-the-U-S

https://rmsothebys.com/en/auctions/lc14/the-littlefield-collection/lots/r0057-leopard-1a1a4-main-battle-tank/574316

And they start at $200,000 USD

https://www.milweb.net/classifieds.php?type=1

Chieftain in the us with cannon turned off, $50k

[restive junco]

having the gun work is the expensive part

and youre not getting modern mbts unless u know the ceo of lockheed or smth

[kind osprey]

My grandpa had a tiny tank

Tiny was still 80,000 pounds because tanks weigh a shit ton regardless of size lol

[placid spruce]

40 tons is still a medium tank

"small" is like a Stuart at like 30 tons

Yeah the do

[rustic cairn]

How about this one beamer?

[kind osprey]

The m2 is nice, a great small car to throw around

[blissful lagoon]

Yea

[blissful lagoon]

Do these look small?

Like really small

Compared to the rear

[sleek osprey]

@blissful lagoon no.

[hybrid charm]

Yes.

Are.. Are the tires on the front a few inches smaller?

[sleek osprey]

The rimd

Rims

[jagged sentinel]

"3 grand and this thing will be a show piece"

[hybrid charm]

[jagged sentinel]

It shouldn't even be on the fucking road

[hybrid charm]

What kind of car is it?

[jagged sentinel]

96 ford mustang

I didn't get pics of it, but there is GREAT STUFF (spray foam, looks and functions similar to insulation fiberglass in houses) all around the chassis

[heady swift]

just throw some cola on it

good as new

[jagged sentinel]

The chassis is completely shot

[heady swift]

I'm surprised it didn't just crack open when you lifted the chassis

[jagged sentinel]

It took my instructor a good 30 seconds to find reverse gear because of how bad of shape the transmission is in

[heady swift]

in what kind of climate was this one driven?

[jagged sentinel]

You could hear it knocking (loudly) every time it entered neutral

[heady swift]

or did it just sit outside for 20 years

[jagged sentinel]

Apparently it was "saved"

[heady swift]

so bought off someone for 100 bucks

will the repairs be expensive? No idea how expensive fox body parts are

[jagged sentinel]

Saved as in the owner held it so it could be driven later

Looks like he "saved it" upside down outside in the snow with no cover or protection of any kind

[jagged sentinel]

Michigan weather

[ocean rock]

So salty place with a lot of long winters

I would call it write off honestly, you wont know how much black rust is in there.

[jagged sentinel]

No so much salt as much as humidity

But salt commonly coats the roads as much as snow does

[ocean rock]

Yeah

Iirc its common in midwest and east coast to use those sort of road coating

To keep the ice away

[heady swift]

oh that kind of weather's awful for cars

[jagged sentinel]

I can't wait for the snow to just piss off already

[blissful lagoon]

The tires aren't even the same type of tire, im pretty sure the rear is all terrains while the front is road tires

[blissful lagoon]

Not talking about the rims

No we didn't do it previous previous owners changed wheels out completely except the fronts

[royal gulch]

2022 Porsche 911 GT3

Engine: 4.0L Flat 6
Weight: 1,435 kg / 3,164 lbs
Power: 375 kW / 503 hp / 510 PS
0-100 kph: 3.4 seconds
Torque: 470 Nm / 347 lb-ft
Top Speed: 320 kph / 199 mph

[kind osprey]

I can't wait to test drive this one

[elder basin]

This color is so nice on the Tesla roadster

[kind osprey]

Whenever I get a tesla roadster in a game or spec it out on the websites I always make it matte black

Like a dark vante matte black because it looks like floating headlights and it’s sick

From someone who drives a white car

Your not gonna wanna get white lol

Car wash every week if you want it to look remotely clean, I don’t do this and the cash is just dirty

Because snow and all the other stuff like salt would make it not even worth it to wash until the snow depletes.

[fickle summit]

This is slick

[elder basin]

I love white and black on all teslas

[kind osprey]

I didn't notice the La Ferrari in the back at first

i'd be lookin at that instead lol

[blissful lagoon]

Hmm yes

the tesla we we're supposed to get

but still haven't got

[old sedge]

Tesla would be nice

[old sedge]

You must be rich.

[blissful lagoon]

Thanks elon

[blissful lagoon]

No i mean

im pretty sure it hasn't even been seen yet

[old sedge]

Oh

[blissful lagoon]

in like

able to buy kinda way

still hasn't been fully released

Could be wrong but i see no one having one

Oh yea still not able to get one if you have the money

cause elon wants to make it fucking hover

[hybrid charm]

basically this shit is vaporware

they've been promising it since 2016 I guess

[kind osprey]

Lol

They never said it would come out in 2016 but yea since covid did it’s thing I could see this not being on a street until 2022

[hybrid charm]

2025 is my best guest, since Tesla is awful with deadlines

they always mess up when delivering cars

[spiral cedar]

this looks amazing

[blissful lagoon]

No but thought they said around 2018/17 they said we would see it on public in early or late 2020

[hybrid charm]

[hybrid charm]

Cum is a valid transport

Because you can slide on it

See it’s like minecraft ice

Prove me wrong boys

[kind osprey]

First you must provide the evidence to back your claim

How do you stop the vehicle

[analog radish]

uhmn

[hybrid charm]

Friction by just licking it

[analog radish]

whats the ncap safety rating

[kind osprey]

[analog radish]

the seats

or

the engine

does it run on semen

[hybrid charm]

The engine is man power

It’s like a skateboard in a way

Except without the board and with semen

[analog radish]

uhm why have u posted the same as cum is food

[hybrid charm]

Cum is a multi tool

It has a variety of uses

[old sedge]

For some reason, I got a slight headache trying to compare the European emission standards and the US emission standards.

[heady swift]

yeah it's very different. But in a nutshell it's slightly less emission

[old sedge]

What's the highest compliance called?

[kind osprey]

why is he holding that wheel so low

[buoyant vigil]

reservations have been in for a few years iirc but no ETA on when you have to pay the full amount

[blissful lagoon]

https://www.motorauthority.com/news/1131122_tesla-roadster-delayed-to-2022-engineering-not-completed-yet

[kind osprey]

They said it would be released late 2020, so if you account the year of covid and lockdowns as an excuse which is justified, if they release it late 2021/January 2022 they are still on good time.

cars aren't easy

They are also low production so low priority considering everything should be going towards the model 3/y

[old sedge]

Yes, cars are not easy. I still prefer travelling with my own car during the pandemic than to take a public transport.

[blissful lagoon]

.i get the excuse cause of lockdownand covid, and the recent focus on spacex but people are gonna not like the fact that the car they put downs on isn't arrived yet, course people should be use to that in this time

[kind osprey]

Every car they have made has been delayed, most of the people annoyed by the roadster delay aren't gonna get one lol

[hybrid charm]

Just saying it will become vaporware

I give 0 fucks to that smartphone on wheels, I just like to annoy tesla fanbois

[heady swift]

what

[kind osprey]

^

People who hate ev's upon the basis of no valid argument are just as bad as those idiots who own ev's that put "Gas-Bad" or "Bye-Gas" as their licence plate

[hybrid charm]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaporware

[hybrid charm]

Nah, I just hate the brainlets who shit on everyone for not owning these tin cans

Also, their design language is awful

[kind osprey]

wdym, they design for little drag, and they achieve that well

not everything can be a filing cabinet, as much as I enjoy g wagons

[hybrid charm]

little drag =/= beautiful

[kind osprey]

and

[hybrid charm]

And I said their design is ugly

[heady swift]

efficiency > fun

cars are foremost a means of transportation, any fun or aesthetics is secondary

[hybrid charm]

for you, sure

[heady swift]

and for 99 per cent of people who buy and drive cars

[kind osprey]

in most terms it actually does, the slipperier the object the more of a natural feel it has

[hybrid charm]

I'm not saying its not efficient

[kind osprey]

because most things in nature repeat that low drag pattern

[hybrid charm]

It could be a fucking water drop for all I care

[heady swift]

exactly, bad aerodynamics is wasted energy

[hybrid charm]

No shit genius

[blissful lagoon]

I hate this truck

[kind osprey]

well you seem to be confused by something for us to have to explain why they look like eggs with wheels

[heady swift]

then why are you hating on Tesla? I mean you can provide valid criticism on some of their business tactics, but their design has been proven fruitful

and effective design is more important than aesthetic design

[kind osprey]

It's not for everyone, some people love the minimal design, others don't prefer it

[blissful lagoon]

And it locked me in the truck,

[kind osprey]

opinions make the world go round

[hybrid charm]

Their cars are ugly, I don't like how people claim they are the best cars, awful quality control

[kind osprey]

They are the best at some things, but not all of course. People who shit on every other car are just as ignorant as those who blindly hate on a specific brand.

two opposite sides of the extremists

[heady swift]

you find them ugly, and there have been issues indeed but that's to be expected from new manufacturers which are rapidly expanding. VW, volvo (any brand) has recalled their models in the past

[hybrid charm]

I'm not hating, I simply don't like them and don't see owning them

The same way I don't like Volvo or VW

[kind osprey]

They are extremely efficient, don't depreciate as much as other cars in the price segment, have an ever growing infrastructure and are the safest vehicles on the road.
I'd prefer a Lamborghini but some people prefer practicality and efficiency in a point a to b machine.

[heady swift]

eh they do depreciate a lot, but that's standard for most consumer vehicles. Most bmw's and mercedes vehicles depreciate a bit faster

[kind osprey]

a lot*

Teslas as Lucas stated are software on wheels meaning they update with time without needing to ever go anywhere or do anything

[hybrid charm]

Where did I say they aren't efficient or don't depreciate it ? I simply don't like because they are ugly, expensive and are not up to my standards. You are all acting like I said something unreasonable, I simply stated my opinion, I didn't try to enforce it or state it as a fact

[heady swift]

because this

[hybrid charm]

Another reason that I despise them, I hate this software update over the air bullshit

[heady swift]

rather edgy

[hybrid charm]

so ? Seems like it worked

[heady swift]

I'm not a tesla fanboy, I don't see myself owning an american car in general

but as there are unconditional fanboys, there are unconditional haters

[blissful lagoon]

I need a new radio

[hybrid charm]

Stolen ?

[blissful lagoon]

No old owners took it out

no one is gonna steal a GM radio

from 1996

Aged like fine leather

[rotund totem]

'drifted'

[hybrid charm]

big wang

[rotund totem]

'undrifted'

[jagged sentinel]

350z moment

[hybrid charm]

[rotund totem]

Reusy

[kind osprey]

The b58 isn't too bad huh

unless that dude ls swapped it xD

[ocean rock]

iirc its a 2JZ swap

which is like just

[kind osprey]

Good

Put the real engine in it

[hybrid charm]

"Today on shit A80 fans say"

[kind osprey]

You think teslas are ugly, well so is the new supra

More fake vents than a planet fitness locker though

They could’ve done so much better with that car, it being a z4 is actually the least of my concerns because bmw is a good brand.

[blissful lagoon]

[kind osprey]

[blissful lagoon]

I am getting ideas

and it is not a good thing

[kind osprey]

The old pickups look nice when they aren’t halfway rusted, dirty, and disintegrated

Takes you back in time to see a clean older car

[blissful lagoon]

but i think the plans of 350 swapping the lil turd sonoma is changing from a no to a go

[blissful lagoon]

Yea i can't say that about the van much

Sonoma tho, perfect swap truck

engines basically shit anyways minus well blow it up

[hybrid charm]

and make another successful generic supercar like the NSX right ? Not saying it can't be ugly, but this engine thing is annoying, it has a BMW engine whether people like it or not

[kind osprey]

Well a lot of people don’t like it, and the ones who see the car usually don’t know or care outsourcing the parts was level 9000 cost cutting on their part but at least it was outsourced to bmw.

It doesn’t make the car stop looking stubby and weirdly proportioned

And all the shit they pulled between detuning, fake vents, telling people the car would sag if you installed a wing on it.

The first year of that car was absolutely a shitshow

They got the second year much better but it still looks like a hamster toenail

[hybrid charm]

Oh yeah, the detuning was a shitshow but I don't remember about the sagging one

[kind osprey]

Shoving an inline six in something the size of an extended smart car makes it look like a miata coupe with a long hood and a cheap veilside body kit

I hate how they used such a short chassis for it

How is the nsx generic it looks nothing like any other car.

It’s like calling the c8 corvette generic

[hybrid charm]

Well, the design looks dull, it doesn't stand out

sure, it's not like other car, but it doesn't look like it's trying to standout

[kind osprey]

I’d rather have subtle than ugly bubble hamster

But price was probably the main issue with that thing

[hybrid charm]

The engine however isn't generic, it's rather rare to find a Hybrid V6 in a 2013 Supercar

[kind osprey]

No one saw acura as that type of brand

Because they forgot it was honda

[hybrid charm]

And price yeah, but the original NSX wasn't cheap either, so I wonder why the latter didn't make as much success as the first

[kind osprey]

The nsx’s direct competition was between the Nissan gtr and the audi r8 and those two were already massively successful for years

Timing was I think a big issue they built it really late

I like the r35, it’s chubby and now the stereotype of media influencer who made money last year but I don’t mind the design

The older ones, the actual skylines had a certain design language that the new gtr sorta failed to create

[hybrid charm]

Never was fan of the Skyline family, I used to like the R32 but as the years went by I started liking the R30, shame it is always forgotten because it's not a GTR

the 4-doors also are a favorite of mine, especially the R34, they look so normal

[kind osprey]

Lol they even made station wagons of it which I find funny

[night steeple]

wagons of sports cars are my thing man

[kind osprey]

Yea for such a task they did pretty well

They already had a four door version so that was a big help

[night steeple]

lancer wagon man

I want one of those

[hybrid charm]

Yeah, the Nissan Stagea right ?

[hybrid charm]

the Evo VII looks good in wagon form

[night steeple]

the stagea is sort of it probably, people swap frond ends so I guess the insides are similar

[buoyant vigil]

~$50k down for most people. Waiting a few years is pretty common for cars that are all built by hand/design isn’t finished yet. Because it’s an EV there’s definitely lots of people who are buying it as their first supercar so they probably didn’t expect waiting a few years. Most customers usually don’t care as long as the car isn’t canceled completely tbh

[heady swift]

they're surprisingly comfortable (for an evo)

[rotund totem]

This set of wheels can beat the Divo!

[old sedge]

I love that car.

[terse axle]

@rotund totem

[old sedge]

Why is that called McLaren? Isn't McLaren a separate car manufacturer?

[rotund totem]

They built the car together!

[terse axle]

its a mclaren merc

top gear did a race in it

[loud spade]

Ohh SLR

[terse axle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XlyImuo-IBw

[loud spade]

Sick car

[rotund totem]

SLR, yeah...

[terse axle]

they did leave out a massive chunk between part 1 and 2

[rotund totem]

It still can't beat Divo like this one!

[terse axle]

i dont like the air scoop

on the roof

its ugly

and it looks like a le mans car

and those are ugly

[rotund totem]

Well, I Luv it.

[old sedge]

Oh, so that's why.

[terse axle]

and the le mans mercedes like to take off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e21ZjwZGjiQ

[old sedge]

This is a better McLaren.

[terse axle]

i like the mclaren senna

its my favorite car

look at it

[jagged sentinel]

All-time favorite british car

[old sedge]

This is still my dream car.

[jagged sentinel]

Agera R? Damn fine choice.

[terse axle]

koenigsegg

[jagged sentinel]

Favorite 'egg is the CCX

[terse axle]

i had to search that name

[old sedge]

Sadly, they don't manufacture Agera anymore.

[terse axle]

its impossible to spell that name

[jagged sentinel]

Koenigsegg

I have to rely on autocorrect lmao

[old sedge]

Is it just me or most or all Bugatti cars kinda look like a bug?

[terse axle]

bugattis are awesome

i dont know how to describe them in english

[old sedge]

I don't know if it's true but someone claimed that Ferrari is good but Lambo outperforms Ferrari.

[terse axle]

but in norwegian they're "grove"

[jagged sentinel]

No

[terse axle]

which basically means rough

but better

[jagged sentinel]

Lamborghinis are more luxury cars then sports cars

In comparison to ferraris anyway

[terse axle]

i feel like lambos are a bit more to flex

and ferraris are to go fast

[old sedge]

And I want a Centenario only because that's my missing queen's dream car.

[jagged sentinel]

Dream car vs pipe-dream car

[old sedge]

I just hope Fiat doesn't ruin Ferrari since I heard that they own Ferrari.

Or at least they have ownership of Ferrari.

[jagged sentinel]

They've owned them since the 60s

If they would have fucked them up they would have done so already

[old sedge]

Do you think Fiat is a good car?

[jagged sentinel]

I don't like any of their cars

[old sedge]

I heard Fiat builds bad cars.

[jagged sentinel]

Ferraris aren't known for being super reliable either

[old sedge]

Really? I thought Ferraris have reliable and durable cars?

Well, Ford beats Ferrari anyway. 😂

[kind osprey]

Ferrari got bought out half a century ago lmao, they don't influence Ferrari at all it is just under their belt.

If you want a supercar company to succeed you let them do their own shit and never change it.

[rotund totem]

Or, create your own.

[hybrid charm]

their classic cars are great

[hybrid charm]

It's McLaren because it was built when McLaren and Mercedes were working together on F1 (Merc owned 40% of McLaren)

[blissful lagoon]

Exhaust leak fixing time

[dire shard]

nahh they make that one good car-
oh wait, it's just an mx-5 but looks worse

[blissful lagoon]

Wtf

trying to work on the truck

cat intrudes

[kind osprey]

Yea the mainstream Mclaren production cars you see today, that didn’t start until 2011

They released their first model the mp4-12c

Before that they were solely just a racing manufacturer, and in the 90’s dabbled with making a racer for the road. That’s where the f1 came from

[rotund totem]

Get in dude!

[dire shard]

the new f-type is really boring

they took an f-type and just took away all of the characteristics that made it look unique

[blissful lagoon]

This is just stupid kinda pricey

Compared to

[dire shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_Mgli9bzFs&feature=youtu.be

[blissful lagoon]

Yes the peel

i need it

to bad a kit is expensive

[crystal tree]

the originals are outrageous yeah, though if you really want one, there's some company making electrics for 9,000 (and you can get a petrol for another 2-4k) - that's British currency, btw

ah 9k for the kit, 12k for a factory built one

[blissful lagoon]

Rather pay less for a kit than get one built for me cause i like hands on stuff

[kind osprey]

Imagine getting an original, you could trade that in for a Huracan

[rotund totem]

Wow, the Corvette is pretty so much worth it!

[grand girder]

[hybrid charm]

why did they put a sea lion

[grand girder]

because animal is life

[hybrid charm]

fair

[grand girder]

if u disturb animal

animal kill u and u die a good death

[jagged sentinel]

Damn that mustang wasting so much gas

Overrun 100

[buoyant vigil]

usually the build quality is quite good and it can survive being a daily. mclaren build quality is very poor(the interior quality is absolutely horrible) and they really cant survive being a daily. lamborghinis have a decent build quality and for the most part they can survive as a daily

mclaren build quality sucks ass regardless of the price range

[old sedge]

Oh. So McLaren is mostly for speed and looks but the quality is bad?

[jagged sentinel]

The engineering side of the cars are good, but their build quality could be better

But I've heard the MP4-12C makes a decent daily driver

[buoyant vigil]

you could say that yeah. the quality control is complete shit which really just brings everything else down

[heady swift]

You should never buy a lambo, ferrari or mclaren as a daily driver

I can somewhat excuse the 612, ff (super sexy imo), gtc4lusso and urus (horrendous car) but all of their other vehicles are rather unfit for daily driving. These days the comfort and over-all usability has been improved upon but it's nothing compared to regular consumer cars half their price. Daily driving will also destroy the value of your car.

[bleak pine]

lambo, ferrari and mclaren mainly build track/racing cars

[old sedge]

I would buy for showing off. 😂

[bleak pine]

not daily driving ones

[heady swift]

if you're rich and want a daily driver, you're better off with a high-end volvo, audi or a bentley

[heady swift]

most of their cars are performance cars

[bleak pine]

yeah

[heady swift]

lamborghini has very little racing heritage and the california isn't exactly a track car

[blissful lagoon]

Its stock and it has a busted roof with a half working trans

[jagged sentinel]

Lamborghini is more luxury-focused

[old sedge]

I love Ferrari but do you guys agree with me that Ford beats Ferrari?

[buoyant vigil]

it really depends where you live and how much you can spend on maintaining the car. if you daily a mclaren you just need to have a few hundred extra bolts on hand and get it serviced monthy. lambos are wayyyy less likely to break down but its still not the best to daily. Ferraris quality and reliability makes it good enough to daily tho.

mclarens just have too many issues to use as a daily safely

[jagged sentinel]

It's a poor comparison

[buoyant vigil]

if you live close to a service center then you can pretty much daily whatever

[old sedge]

Ford did defeat Ferrari in 24 hours of Le Mans by using the Ford GT40.

[jagged sentinel]

Yes, they did

[blissful lagoon]

Thats an unruly comparison to the argument of which is more daily driveable

Cause thats a race car

[jagged sentinel]

But the GT40 is barely a ford at all

Yeah it was manufactured in a ford factory bla bla bla

But it was shaped into the car that beat the big red prick by Carol Shelby and the boys at Shelby

[old sedge]

Carroll Shelby is a legend.

[jagged sentinel]

Mhm

[buoyant vigil]

once mclaren discovers threadlockers it might become safe to daily

[jagged sentinel]

I've heard good things about the 12C as a daily

Then again, the 12C was overengineered

[old sedge]

Damn it. I remember that I need help about something I'm still unable to fully understand. 😭

What's better? Hp or torque? What's the difference between these 2?

[jagged sentinel]

Between what

Nvm

Torque is an incomplete measurement, used in calculating horsepower

But higher torque generally correlates to better pulling power/acceleration

[old sedge]

Oh, I have driven a same van model but different engines(1 has diesel engine which has 101hp and 260Nm torque while the other has gas engine which has 136hp and 182Nm torque). Although both can reach high speeds, the gas seems to have more sluggish acceleration from 0 and when climbing steep inclines.

[jagged sentinel]

t's why diesel is the preferred fuel for Semi-trucks/utility trucks

[old sedge]

And here in my country, diesel is very popular even on SUVs and minivans.

Because diesel is more efficient and diesel fuel is cheaper. Also because SUVs with gas engines tend to be more sluggish unless it's really powerful like V6 or turbocharged too.

But V6 engines often drink a lot of fuel.

[jagged sentinel]

They're more fuel efficient then V8s

[buoyant vigil]

im not too familiar with the 12c tbh

[jagged sentinel]

But fuel economy is mostly dependent upon the design of the camshafts and compression ratios

[old sedge]

And I once asked a mechanical engineer if he would choose a large N/A engine or a small turbocharged engine providing they have same or almost same output for hauling cargo, he said he still wants N/A engine for that because the boost for turbocharged engines will only come at certain RPM.

[jagged sentinel]

Variable Valve Timing is pretty neat

[old sedge]

And of course, turbolag.

[jagged sentinel]

Yep, turbos take time to spool up, so they're only effective at higher RPMs

They're also unreliable af

[old sedge]

The good thing about NA is the output supply is constant and no delay.

[old sedge]

I never knew that. 😮

And for hauling heavy cargo, I bet it will demand constant output supply which the turbocharged engine won't be able to give.

[jagged sentinel]

Turbos are used in Semi-trucks more often then you'd think

[old sedge]

I can't imagine an SUV with 1.8 I4 turbocharged engine pulling a large boat from a slippery boat ramp.

But turbocharged engines are nice for efficiency.

[jagged sentinel]

No shit, you could fit that engine in a shopping cart

[old sedge]

And lesser emissions too.

And I think small turbocharged engines are results of emission regulations and demand for fuel efficient engines.

[jagged sentinel]

Yep

I prefer superchargers over turbos tho

[old sedge]

Doesn't supercharger rob the engine of hp?

[jagged sentinel]

Yes but you gain more net Horsepower anyway

It's driven by the engine itself

[old sedge]

Twincharger has no lag but it's complicated, especially when it comes to maintenance.

[jagged sentinel]

It has lag

But said lag is suppressed by the supercharger

[old sedge]

That's why the lag doesn't really become noticeable. The supercharger fills in for the lag.

[jagged sentinel]

There's a reason twinchargers aren't commonplace though

[old sedge]

All I know is because anti-lags or VNTs have minimized lags.

[heady swift]

Most of their models have limited space and all of them are very fuel-inefficient. You'd spend a fortune on maintenance/insurance and their resell value will drop significantly. Their suspension isn't exactly that great for city environments too. You're 100X better off with a M6 or something as a daily driver (if you have the money) and use your gallardo or whatever for fun.

I mean you can sacrifice a weekend with ferrari but using it on a daily basis for months upon months is feasible but incredibly dumb

[buoyant vigil]

it really depends on how much you can spend on repairs

and where you drive it

[heady swift]

eh there are some very poweful small inline fours with a turbo (or multiple) which can produce a lot of power. But most of the time they're not very reliable for utility. You'd probably blow out your turbo if you're carrying a boat uphill

[jagged sentinel]

If it needs to be repaired more often then not, I don't think that makes it a great daily

[buoyant vigil]

mclarens need the most repairs out of the 3

[heady swift]

a good daily driver has comfort, (relatively) good fuel economy and is reliable and also has room*. Most lamborghini's/ferrari's/mclarens have limited comfort, are very fuel inefficient and are not reliable- especially for daily driving

you can daily drive an f8 or a 720s, but it's heavily advised against and over all stupid

if you can afford such a car you can also afford a decent primary vehicle

unless you're one of those cheap-skates who lives in a garage and spend all of their savings on a car that they never drive

[heady swift]

I mean volvo used them, but that technology has been replaced by hybrid set-ups

a bit more fuel-efficient and passes regulation easier

[jagged sentinel]

Volvo and who else? Zenvo? Lancia?

[heady swift]

lancia only used it for the s4, and the majority of the homoligation models were destroyed after the explosion

[jagged sentinel]

It's real Group B hours

[heady swift]

don't get me wrong it's an interesting concept, but a regular economy car is definitely not going to use a twincharged set-up

especially if the government/industry prefers hybrid technology

[old sedge]

Volvo is said to be formidable.

[heady swift]

volvo is a pretty nice brand

[jagged sentinel]

Volvo have been quietly innovating for years

[heady swift]

they don't make small cars, though

so not very popular in dense urban areas like in Italy or France

[jagged sentinel]

Or most of western europe

[heady swift]

eh a lot of people drive volvos here

my friend's family has one, my family owns two and my neighbour also has one

very popular

[jagged sentinel]

Volvo's would not be out of place here, but since I live within eyeshot of GM headquarters...

I tend to see a lot of american cars, which I'm not complaining about

[heady swift]

the only american cars here are fords, but european brands are much more preferred

and asian brands too

because they also have a history with small economy cars

[jagged sentinel]

Well yeah, GM has extremely little to no presence in europe

I don't think chrysler has any

[old sedge]

I don't see much Asian brands here, most brands here are Japanese, S Korean, American and Chinese brands.

[jagged sentinel]

Actually I take that back

[buoyant vigil]

personally i only need my laptop wherever i go so storage isnt a huge issue for me. im also not a "typical supercar/hypercar driver" because I put a decent amount of miles on my cars

but at the end of the day it depends on your lifestyle and what you care about. just make sure you take a mclaren in monthly or weekly if you daily it to stay safe

[old sedge]

European brands are quite rare

[heady swift]

I've seen some 300C's here

but yeah, not popular

[jagged sentinel]

There are a lot of Polestar 1s locally tho

Like there are at least 4 different polestar 1s

Which is strange, given how deceptively expensive they are

[heady swift]

Yeah if you hardly ever need a car, you can splurge on a performance vehicle. But for the sake of daily commuting it's the worst possible choice you'll make

oooh and tesla has gotten really popular here too, everyone drives them know

[buoyant vigil]

i have 15k miles on my p1

[jagged sentinel]

Teslas have blown up here too

[heady swift]

polestars are becoming more popular too, but it will take a few years for them to become prominent

they lack pr

[old sedge]

We don't have much EVs here because we need to fix our cities first before we put up EV charging stations. Our cities are prone to floods whenever heavy storms come which are common from June to August.

[jagged sentinel]

I struggle to believe

[old sedge]

And the floods would probably destroy those charging stations.

Not to mention our country has the most expensive electricity in Asia so EVs are not yet desired here.

[jagged sentinel]

Where I live is a american car enthusiast's dream

[heady swift]

hire some people from rws or the TU and those floods are no more

[jagged sentinel]

70s cudas, hellcats, chargers, all manner of american muscle, pony, and some european supercars too

There's also an E85-equipped gas station within 30-ish miles from my house

[heady swift]

you hardly see any of those cars here, pretty sure you can't even drive them in some areas because of pollution

[old sedge]

How about the expensive electricity? We have the highest electricity cost in Asia. 😂

Even more expensive than electricity in the US.

[jagged sentinel]

Electricity here flows like water

[heady swift]

they hardly sell that here anymore

mostly euro 95 or 98

[jagged sentinel]

Not the mileage, the car itself

[buoyant vigil]

#transportation message

[heady swift]

hmm maybe abolish current government and instil a new one

[old sedge]

As if that's gonna be easy since many people here are still brainwashed to support the incompetent and corrupt gov't.

[jagged sentinel]

That link is a dead-end for me

[buoyant vigil]

one sec

[heady swift]

a video of someone slapping a p1 headlight

rear light*

[buoyant vigil]

bonk*

[old sedge]

Oh damn it! That reminds me, I'm too late! D:

[jagged sentinel]

I'm perfectly happy with what's sitting in my garage

[kind osprey]

I didn’t think billionaires would openly roam in this server

[old sedge]

Manufacturers are gonna start charging $1,601.70 or $2,516.96 for the safeguard/protectionism bond if we wanna buy cars which are affected by it.

[buoyant vigil]

im here because of @small mist, i dont play gta

[old sedge]

It will start on March...

[kind osprey]

Welcome

[buoyant vigil]

and here because of omar also

[jagged sentinel]

About as rare as a porsche 918

[old sedge]

Although it's not yet final, it's just a deposit as of now. We will get refund if the safeguard/protectionism tax gets junked.

[buoyant vigil]

👀

[jagged sentinel]

People are desperate to get their hands on one of these camaros

[old sedge]

We haven't applied for a car loan yet. We never buy cars by all out cash even if it's easy for us.

Because of the perks.

[kind osprey]

Grubhub perks

[buoyant vigil]

hi vco 🗿

[small mist]

come to #archive_cross-trivia if you wanna watch another server selfbot and cheat

[buoyant vigil]

oo

okie

[heady swift]

you can shoot a dyson vacuum cleaner commercial in that garage

[old sedge]

The perks of buying a car through loans are often free insurance for 1 year, free registration for 3 years and so on. The best thing about car loans here is if the car gets stolen, the insurance will replace our car and they will also pay for the rest of our loan.

[jagged sentinel]

"3,000$ and this will be a show piece"

[jagged sentinel]

It's a garage not private show room, give break

[old sedge]

That's nice classic.

[jagged sentinel]

It's also michigan, so the roads are in about as good of shape as a washing machine after you throw a brick into it

[old sedge]

What do you call the highest emission compliance for the car in the USA?

[heady swift]

I mean it was probably autumn when you shot that photo

[jagged sentinel]

Yes, late October

[old sedge]

Like if in Europe, the highest is Euro 6, what's it called in the USA?

[jagged sentinel]

A moderate annoyance

[old sedge]

Why?

[jagged sentinel]

More emission regulation=less power

[heady swift]

Euro 6 is only for big trucks

[old sedge]

That's what you're annoyed about?

[heady swift]

as in scania

[jagged sentinel]

On my camaro earlier, the engine loses as much as 80 horsepower from the emission regulation system on it

[old sedge]

If you are annoyed by that, then I understand because that is indeed annoying.

[heady swift]

the regulation system only applies to newly manufactured cars

unless they change what kind of fuel should be used

[old sedge]

For cars like Sedans and SUVs, do they need 4 or 5?

And I think one European friend is annoyed about the planned diesel ban in EU because according to him, diesel engines can still be improved.

[heady swift]

oh consumer cars are also opting for euro 6

[heady swift]

eh it's only popular in france

[old sedge]

My goal is to buy at least a BMW for status symbol but preferably a Lambo

Due to the expensive maintenance of BMW, I once made a joke about it.
BMW - Break My Wallet. 🤣

[heady swift]

every few years the emission regulation is updated, so in the 80's/90's you had euro 1 and these days euro 6

[jagged sentinel]

Dream car vs pipe-dream car

[heady swift]

nowadays euro 6 is the norm for newly produced cars

[jagged sentinel]

The One-77 would suck In european urban roads

[old sedge]

My country is still stuck with Euro 4. They only made Euro 4 standard like 2017-2018 and that only applies for newly produced cars.

[heady swift]

eh they're not that expensive to maintain. An M-badge sure, but a regular 120i is pretty ok

[old sedge]

That's why many trucks, public utility vehicles and even buses emit black smokes so often.

[old sedge]

They are expensive here. Even a simple oil change is costly.

[jagged sentinel]

You'll be doing a lot of those on an M car

[heady swift]

black smoke comes from faulty (or really powerful) diesel engines

[heady swift]

yeah I guess import and national regulation's a bit harsh there

[old sedge]

Those are Euro 0 cars.

[jagged sentinel]

Does coal-rolling happen over there?

[old sedge]

Please remove the word "bit".

[jagged sentinel]

Like, is that a thing people do?

[old sedge]

😂

[jagged sentinel]

Or is coal-rolling an american thing

[heady swift]

never seen it myself here

people have been pretty accepting of fuel-economy regulation (aside from france)

but some people were pretty angry about the fact that we have the most expensive petrol, so they decided to fill their tanks just across the border

especially truck drivers

[old sedge]

There are quite many trucks here which are like 20-50 years old. "popular" public transports here are WW2 era, like the Willys in GTA Online.

And those are diesel powered.

[jagged sentinel]

I live in a heavily suburban area, so there's no coal-plant-tier-pollutant coal-roller trucks to coal roll people with in the first place

[heady swift]

I mean we have ''milieu zones'' which bans certain cars from entering if they're too polluting

I rarely see pick-up trucks

[old sedge]

A Ford Mustang with Ecoboost engine here costs $58,387.90 because of import taxes.

[jagged sentinel]

Damn

They're less then half that over here

[old sedge]

That's why if you have a Mustang here, you're rich while many Americans just laugh at Ford Mustangs.

The Mustangs they wouldn't laugh at are Shelby Mustangs.

[heady swift]

bare minimum price is 98k euro

[old sedge]

Mustang Ecoboost?

[jagged sentinel]

Fucking hell

[old sedge]

But how is it expensive there?

[heady swift]

so 120k dollars

[jagged sentinel]

I could buy a fully kitted out dodge demon and still have money left over

[old sedge]

To be honest, expensive taxation on cars without excellent and safe public transportation only encourages car smuggling.

[jagged sentinel]

Gas mileage would quickly and efficiently turn said leftovers to nothing

[old sedge]

And if I see a car smuggling, I will not report them.

[jagged sentinel]

It's a tad bit harder to hide an illegal car then say an illegal immigrant or guns or drugs or what not

Since, you know, they're the size of cars

[heady swift]

bpm. We already have two extra taxes on cars and ''luxury'' items which adds an extra 28% on its original ''american'' value. Then there's import tax and the devil himself bpm, which is another tax based on weight, catalogue price and fuel consumption which adds another 60K

[old sedge]

With notoriously corrupt gov't and coastguard and navy only having handful of ships, it's easier than in US and EU.

What's bpm?

[jagged sentinel]

I'm talking about when the car is in use

[old sedge]

Oh

That's why I won't be surprised if smugglers resort to bribery.

[heady swift]

we don't really have car smuggling here, aside from criminals who might want to stay under the radar

[jagged sentinel]

We have the historical vehicle act-thing

[old sedge]

I remember our regulators being explicitly stupid about cars. Vintage Ferraris - illegal because their reason is those are unsafe.

WW2 era public transports which have no safety features and emit black smokes - legal.

[heady swift]

people usually buy mid range or economy cars in local dealers even though they're roughly 25/35% more expensive than elsewhere in europe, but peformance and high-end cars are bought in Germany as you'd otherwise spent 100K extra on a Urus for instance

[old sedge]

It's unsafe for passengers because they tend to inhale the smokes because they have no windows and no air condition.

[old sedge]

Are you in EU?

[jagged sentinel]

Dumb government officials regulating things they don't understand

America is familiar with this kind of thing

[heady swift]

Yes, the Netherlands

[blissful lagoon]

Y'all wanna see a really crusty van?

[jagged sentinel]

Sure

[old sedge]

Car emission and technical regulators should be at least mechanical engineers or car design engineers... Most government officials who regulate cars' emissions and technical standards don't even have experience about cars besides driving.

[blissful lagoon]

How many pictures can i send before i get muted for anti spam?

[jagged sentinel]

Government officials who attempt to regulate firearms should have an understanding of 1. What they are intended to be
2. How they function
3. The concept of a black market

But guns aren't cars

So we're going to talk about cars instead of guns

[old sedge]

They didn't consult motorcycle manufacturers and engineers if this is safe or not.

[heady swift]

eh they usually plan legislation with whatever experts in the field or even consult a council and additionally there's communication (lobbying) with interest groups and third-party committees

[old sedge]

In fact, veteran riders said that motorcycle barriers are actually unsafe and will cause accidents.

[heady swift]

so it's usually not just one guy who wants stuff

but politicians can completely disregard their experts and push through

[old sedge]

So they may not get covid but they will surely get injured or die due to accidents caused by it.

[jagged sentinel]

Motorcycles are already dangerous enough

[old sedge]

I think putting that barrier on motorcycles are dangerous because it may cause more tendency for the motorcycle to lose balance.

[heady swift]

the metal piping can easily become a dangerous object once you fall or crash

it could puncture you for instance

and you should be wearing helmets with a visor anyway

[jagged sentinel]

What is it mounted to

[old sedge]

I'm not sure

[old sedge]

That's not a good thing if they do.

[jagged sentinel]

I really do hope it isn't the swingarm

[old sedge]

I don't ride motorcycles much so I don't know what is it mounted to. Will it really cause more tendency for a motorcycle to lose balance though? They say they will and I don't really ride much.

[jagged sentinel]

It's shifting the weight distribution of an already-unbalanced bike

[old sedge]

So it means it will put the rider and bike more dangerous of tipping.

[jagged sentinel]

Seeing as the drivetrain and powertrain are situated towards the back of the bike

[old sedge]

And how the gov't regulators tested it? I heard that they just put 2 chairs aligned and put a barrier in the middle of it instead of using an actual motorcycle lol.

[jagged sentinel]

@lunar blaze

[lunar blaze]

SHIIIIII

THAT THING NICE AS HELL

Is it your?

Yours

[jagged sentinel]

Not mine, rather my dad's

But it is sitting in the garage right now

[lunar blaze]

Danm I need one of those

[jagged sentinel]

Good luck finding this trim

[lunar blaze]

Lol I don’t even need that trim I need that car

CAR

[jagged sentinel]

I would have preferred a T-Top

But seeing as the trim we have is a rare as a porsche 918, I'm happy with what we have regardless

[lunar blaze]

What

The

F

[jagged sentinel]

25th anniversary commemorative edition

Look it up

[lunar blaze]

Ok

[jagged sentinel]

Excuse me, 20th anniversary

[lunar blaze]

Danm

[jagged sentinel]

In case you wanted proof

The father bought this car for 9.7

People have offered 15 in the comments of a fucking facebook post he made

[lunar blaze]

That interior is sexy too but yes that is very rare

How much did he pay for it

[jagged sentinel]

The father bought this car for 9,700$

[lunar blaze]

Holy that’s worth a lot now

That car is worth a lot

[jagged sentinel]

People have offered 15K for it in a facebook post he made about the car in an F-body/Third gen facebook group

[lunar blaze]

It’s worth a lot more

I’m pretty sure

[jagged sentinel]

Engine bay

This was the first time we opened the hood since my dad bought the car

[lunar blaze]

That’s nice

[jagged sentinel]

Fuckin immaculate

[lunar blaze]

godly

[jagged sentinel]

Me and my auto shop buddies (high school class where I go to another school to learn a course not offered at my home school) joked that the car was the previous owner's wife

[lunar blaze]

lol

[jagged sentinel]

There was some truth to that tho

The passenger seats were clearly barely ever used

[lunar blaze]

Hmmmm

I need a car like that

[jagged sentinel]

He kept it in an air conditioned garage in the winter (the car has never touched snow), the only part that was replaced was the passenger door panel, which was damaged by dry wall from the roof

Hold up

[lunar blaze]

Hmmm interesting

[jagged sentinel]

I want you to guess how many miles this thing has clocked in

[lunar blaze]

3543

Lol

Idk

[jagged sentinel]

129,000 miles

[lunar blaze]

Really

[jagged sentinel]

Mhm

[lunar blaze]

It doesn’t look like it

But then again it’s been taken care of like a baby

[jagged sentinel]

The body isn't completely scuffless obviously, the prev owner very clearly dailyed it

There is some tiny scuffs here and there along the body, a decent-sized but still mostly-unnoticable scuff on the (fiberglass) front splitter thing

But for 129,000 miles I'd say that's pretty good

Alr I'm done gloating now

[royal gulch]

2022 McLaren Artura

Engine: 3.0L V6 Twin Turbo
Weight: 1,498 kg / 3,302 lbs
Power: 500 kW / 671 hp / 680 PS
0-100 kph: 3.0 seconds
Torque: 720 Nm / 531 lb-ft
Top Speed: 330 kph / 205 mph

[jagged sentinel]

They're losing cylinders by the decade

[crystal tree]

https://gfycat.com/paltryunlawfularawana

A boat that is also a hot tub

[ocean rock]

Which is a good thing imo

Fuck sounds, gimme a 1000hp engine that can do 30mpg on the highway

[jagged sentinel]

With turbos that'll only last a hundred miles each

[ocean rock]

Yeah, but turbo

But eh, its mclaren afterall

their service is the bread and butter

[hybrid charm]

the smaller the worse, when you see, they will be pushing 800 from a I4 as reliable as an old 7 series

[jagged sentinel]

800 out of an I4? That block better be made of fuckin tungsten

[hybrid charm]

The ways things are going in Europe, it's not too far-fetched

[dire shard]

man looking at that thing, i'd rather just have the 570s

did mclaren forget how to design new cars after the 720s

suddenly everything looks the same

[dire shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hb6DAmm7sZg

[hybrid charm]

Yeah, this design language looked great on the Speedtail but now ? Idk, they look like a wannabe Speedtail

But it's interesting that the flagship always set the design language, I'm not into car design, so, I may be saying something obvious

[kind osprey]

I mean i've seen civic's pull 200 per cylinder lol

Mclaren's 570 evo Artura only only has a 3 liter so in some countries it will be taxed less because it isn't a big honkin engine

I don't mind the design but I definitely prefer the 570 and the 600lt, those cars had a much sportier style to them but this new one looks more tame and not all that much different.

I like this photo specifically because it hides that absolutely hideous door handle.

it looks slapped on like some 3d sticker I would rip it off

[kind osprey]

I would live in a trailer right outside different tracks and never stop driving this.

omg it's just beautiful, and perfectly functional at the same time, I couldn't have asked for a better Mclaren f1 offspring.

I would kill to spend a day with Gordon Murray and see what goes on that drawing board

all the way to the factory

[hybrid charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ1ZWoT5GjU

[hybrid charm]

yessir

[hybrid charm]

are such turned wheels safe?

[ocean rock]

Looks perfectly normal to me.

[blissful lagoon]

Looks

Like you just turned the wheel at a sharp angle?

[blissful lagoon]

Also nice charger

[old sedge]

What's wrong with it? 🧐

[jagged sentinel]

They're really goddamn thin for one

But aside from a tad bit of camber it looks normal

[gilded kelp]

I do not see an issue

[hybrid charm]

it looks kinda odd to me..

[gilded kelp]

That people turn their cars wheels?

[hybrid charm]

there is some small camber

[gilded kelp]

Ah

I dont get positive camber

Negative is fine

To an extent

[heady swift]

no

[jagged sentinel]

Uninspired

[kind osprey]

You know what, screw you!

BRZ’s your 370z

😭

[jagged sentinel]

That's a 350z I thought

[heady swift]

yeah the 370z is the same exact car but they changed the lights a bit an charged an additional 10K

[jagged sentinel]

Fair enough

[heady swift]

that one is the 350z

[kind osprey]

Yea I never understood the name change since they are the same car

[proper elbow]

They... aren't the same car

[kind osprey]

Huracán, Huracán evo, Nissan 350, Nissan 370

The car was a small update not a revolution

[proper elbow]

Different suspension, engine, interior, exterior

same

[kind osprey]

I can’t wait until they release a new one the 370 is outdated af and they have the audacity to charge like $40,000 for it new.

The new ones are 2012 ones with no miles and a bodykit update

It sucks nissan has been struggling so much I hope they shift it around

[hybrid charm]

Yeah, how many miles did those civic last again ?

[blissful lagoon]

I never sent van pictures

[hushed carbon]

just found the real deebe GT

[blissful lagoon]

Crusty front

Crusty sides

Dirty interior i forget to clean completely again

i don't smoke, those aren't my cigs

And more surface rust pics

crusty van pics

[heady swift]

public health hazard on four wheels

[blissful lagoon]

[kind osprey]

I’ll take it for $150 xD

[jagged sentinel]

You could part it for more then that

Stonks

[kind osprey]

It would take at least a grand to cosmetically unfuck that poor thing

But yea parting it is another option

[blissful lagoon]

Actually

no use in parting anything except body out

*out

cause mechanically its fine

[jagged sentinel]

Makes it all the more valuable

[blissful lagoon]

Just need some new doors,also 150 is almost half of what we paid for it

New doors/panels

and bumpers

[kind osprey]

I mean 300 isn’t bad for that it definitely will cost more than that if you want it to look as good, well, as a minivan can

They sold it to you with all that crap in it?

They must’ve really wanted it gone huh

My cars 😎

[blissful lagoon]

Actually, this van has been driving for 4 years

we have used this basically all over the place

from maine to flordia to Tennessee

[kind osprey]

Oh I thought you just bought it

[blissful lagoon]

nope

it needs a body touch up sure, but for 400$ it was a fucking bargain

[zealous raptor]

I passed the driving exam, baby

[jagged sentinel]

Pog

[silent heron]

Yo chat?

[jagged sentinel]

What

[silent heron]

Anyone who can tell me the actual price if 2jz

Of*

[jagged sentinel]

First off, they only sold the engine in cars

[silent heron]

Oh I don’t know that

Which cars?

[jagged sentinel]

IDK look it up

MK4 supra was one of them

[silent heron]

Do you know the price or not?

[jagged sentinel]

Bruh it's an engine

[silent heron]

Cause I can’t get it in my location

[jagged sentinel]

They sell for all manner of prices

They also stopped producing them 15 years ago

[silent heron]

I know it’s a inline 6 cylinder engine

It came in 2 variants

I know my shit man but not every car can support the power from this beast

[jagged sentinel]

They don't make a ton of power stock lol

[silent heron]

I have 3 2jz in my workshop

[jagged sentinel]

[silent heron]

But a small turbo can work don’t they?

It made under 300 horses

[silent heron]

And i need to sale em

[analog harbor]

Sell em to car youtubers

[jagged sentinel]

I feel like you'd know more about an engine you had 3 of that are just sitting around

[silent heron]

I need to know the price first bro

Bro I’m crazy

Look at this cute car

Its a pony

[jagged sentinel]

That thing's a piece of shit

Wdym pony

Mustang?

[silent heron]

Lol you need to learn more my man you here talking about cars and you said mustang damn😂😂😂

[jagged sentinel]

You said pony smartass

[blissful lagoon]

I dunno the price price but

[silent heron]

It’s a Hyundai 1975 i think I’m not sure

[jagged sentinel]

Pony is a common nickname for a ford mustang

[analog harbor]

Sorry can I just

[analog harbor]

Lol you need to learn more my man you here talking about cars and you said hyuandai 1975 damn😂😂😂

[blissful lagoon]

Also if you want a cheap 2j, buy a clapped lexus

[silent heron]

Never heard of it

[blissful lagoon]

You never heard of a pony car?

[silent heron]

Never in my 24yrs old crazy life

[blissful lagoon]

how

[analog harbor]

[silent heron]

Idk you tell me

[jagged sentinel]

That's straight-up impressive

[blissful lagoon]

The term pony car is thrown around usually when talking about stangs or other similar cars

and you never heard of the term

[jagged sentinel]

It's a distinct class of car

Mustang, Camaro and Challenger are the big 3 pony cars

[blissful lagoon]

Yea

the top dogs of the pony cars

[silent heron]

I’m sure i haven’t heard it before in fact i saw a lot of restorations of mustangs

[blissful lagoon]

now since most of there competition is dead

[silent heron]

Like fastback and shit like that

[blissful lagoon]

since old American cars

gone

like Pontiac

[jagged sentinel]

Plymouth

[blissful lagoon]

Amc would kinda be included?

[silent heron]

I only love the 70 charger in American muscle nothing else

[old sedge]

How about Acura NSX?

[jagged sentinel]

Why that car in particular

[blissful lagoon]

The old dart would be a for sure pony car

[jagged sentinel]

That was too big

[blissful lagoon]

the 68 one wasn't that huge tbh

But still hufe

*huge

[jagged sentinel]

Chrysler always did it the biggest

[silent heron]

Idk man I literally don’t know but when i saw that car i had this gut feeling that imma own this shit and the other thing i saw it in fast in furious when i was a kid

[blissful lagoon]

Yea but for a chysler the dart was what you would call small for them

[silent heron]

That charger and skyline r34 not z tuned

[jagged sentinel]

I had a feeling F&F was a reason

[blissful lagoon]

Dodge, the people who made a brick do the fastest 0-100 in 1978-79

[jagged sentinel]

I'd take a 70 roadrunner over a 70 charger any day of the week

[silent heron]

I mean a kid from early 2000s sees a car doing wheelies wdym he will do?

[blissful lagoon]

Oh boy

you haven't seen a car do real wheelies if you seen it in F&F

[silent heron]

Plymouth is the correct spelling right

[jagged sentinel]

Plymouth, yes

[silent heron]

With a big block?

[jagged sentinel]

Which big block

There were 2

In the Cuda/Challenger/Roadrunner/Charger

[silent heron]

I’m not sure in American engines

I just know the names

[blissful lagoon]

hmmm Sonoma door handle off, time to replace

[silent heron]

And i would love to own a ford model A just to hotrod it

And i would do the most fucking crazy thing with that model a

I’ll put a stupid rb26 in it

[blissful lagoon]

[jagged sentinel]

The chassis would fall apart

[blissful lagoon]

A rb26 in a model A?

no

[silent heron]

Yes

[old sedge]

I wanna buy a 1990s Toyota Celica. You guys already know why.

[silent heron]

Where were you when they put a rb26 in mustang in tokyo drift

[blissful lagoon]

I don't like F&F

[jagged sentinel]

A 60s mustang is a tad bit different to a fucking 30s car

The ford model a only had 40 horsepower

[blissful lagoon]

50s cars make great rat rods

[jagged sentinel]

It it woefully unequipped to handle the powrr and torque of an RB26

[jagged sentinel]

That was also a movie

They made the swap look like it was done in an hour

[silent heron]

Dude check out the SEMA show and the most stupidest craziest mind blowing custom model A

[blissful lagoon]

Look at this rear engine beauty

[jagged sentinel]

It would have taken days

[silent heron]

But the swap was real

[jagged sentinel]

No shit

[silent heron]

It’s a v8

Big block

[jagged sentinel]

The mustang only had a big block engine for 2 years

What year was the mustang from Tokyo drift?

[silent heron]

I said i only know about charger and import

But i a wild guess it was around 50/60b

?

[blissful lagoon]

wasn't it a 66?

65?

[jagged sentinel]

Google says 68

[silent heron]

Idk man

I didn’t google it though

[blissful lagoon]

close enough

I don't remember years the greatest

[silent heron]

But the front had the shape of fast back

[jagged sentinel]

The only big-block engine put in a Mustang was the boss 429, which was only in 1969 and 1970

[silent heron]

Old era of cars was handsome like legit handsome

[blissful lagoon]

*sexy

[silent heron]

I would a fucking r34 over a stupid bugati chiron

[jagged sentinel]

Literally every other V8 put in a Mustang were small blocks

[silent heron]

Take

[blissful lagoon]

Hold on

[silent heron]

I remember i was 11 years old when i got to rev a nismo tuned r34 in bayside blue i was literally crying man that sound that turbo flutter was music to my ears like really cute music

[blissful lagoon]

Which would do better in a drag, a 1994 nissan gtr or a new dodge demon?

[jagged sentinel]

Demon

[blissful lagoon]

Yep

both being stock

no mods nothing

[jagged sentinel]

Demon literally beats any production car on the market

[blissful lagoon]

yep

[silent heron]

And that hyundai pony you said that looks like piece of shit is a off-road bitch which has aftermarket parts from IRONMAN 4X4 Australia and a Diesel engine

[jagged sentinel]

And it's the best sounding car I've ever heard in my life

[silent heron]

New dodge demon

[jagged sentinel]

Yes

Superchargers > Turbochargers

[blissful lagoon]

Its scary hearing a dodge hellcat screaming down the highway next to you

but it sounds amazing

[silent heron]

But bro that thing has I believe 800hrspowr

[jagged sentinel]

If you think a hellcat is scary

Demon is on a whole nother level

https://youtube.com/shorts/m-e9qOCliEA

Observe

[silent heron]

It’s stupid scary

[blissful lagoon]

i have been next to a demon

i was more scared of accidentally scratching it

lmao

[jagged sentinel]

Fair given it's asking price

[silent heron]

Dude I literally don’t like the whine it looks to me like the car is fucking crying

[jagged sentinel]

The whine is the best psrt about the car

[silent heron]

Peeeeeew peeeeeew peeeeeew

[jagged sentinel]

It gives it that demonic wail