transportation

[silent oak]

You read why?

I can tell you short term why

[distant star]

Go on

[silent oak]

Made in small batches, atleast the 90s and earlier ones. Idk bout the new ones.. you had to be invited to the dealer who held them to buy and the front emblem is painstakingly designed

It’s got a different logo as it’s a JDM

[distant star]

Weren’t they mostly owned by yakuza?

[silent oak]

Nope, extra RICH ceos and buisness heads

And for reference, they costed - near 5milllon yeh which is like 100k mark

[kind osprey]

The only person in the Yakuza with a century would be the head boss

Lol

That probably was the case

[silent oak]

No not even yakuza.. maybe a shell company boss

[south current]

Holy daigo dojima

[kind osprey]

@regal kite https://youtube.com/shorts/QJqh3DqZae4?si=2Z6sFBk1Bpl25GtH

I've been looking these up a lot I can't wait to get one

I honestly think I'm dead set on it as much as I love the Lotus

I just love Italian styling and this thing just looks like a squishy tiny Ferrari

But this and the Abarth gotta be some of the best sounding 4 cylinders from factory

It is ridiculous

[silent oak]

Is that really a compliment tho? A good sounding 4 cylinder?

[regal kite]

Wow, really nice.

[kind osprey]

Did you watch it?

The abarth 1750cc is a beautiful sounding engine

https://carsandbids.com/auctions/rbovNBWl/2015-alfa-romeo-4c

Some fucker got the deal of the century...

$38k and it sold only a few months ago, maybe there is hope to buy this thing one day

[silent oak]

4 cylinder sports car-is that just a go cart

[pseudo charm]

All my homies love 4 cylinder engines

[silent oak]

Add two 4 cylinders and your fine

[loud spade]

Wow only $38k? Maybe if I sell my kidneys and my parents’ kidneys I’ll get one

[kind osprey]

A car that small doesn't need a v6

It would just be excess weight

Unless it was a really small displacement which is rare to see nowadays

[mental lion]

The exige got a pretty large v6

[kind osprey]

😂

The other 2 cylinders are silent

Like the k and g in knight

[silent oak]

I’m ok with v6 pony cars

But putting an i4 in a mustang is horrible

[kind osprey]

Tbf v6's back then made less power than most sport oriented 4's

But yea mustangs specifically shouldn't be 4

They're too heavy

[mental lion]

Can’t expect much from a toyota v6

[silent oak]

Well your buying a pony car, your not buying it for speed

[kind osprey]

Exige isn't a v6

I thought you were making a joke

[mental lion]

Some of them are

[kind osprey]

For me it comes down to weight, if the car is a 4000 pound suv I'd be kinda sad about a 4 cylinder

[silent oak]

How much do Honda CRV weigh?

[kind osprey]

But if it is like my car I don't mind a 4 cyl

[silent oak]

They have a 4 banger

[kind osprey]

That's the middle size one so my guess is a non hybrid is 3600 ish pounds

[silent oak]

And are expressly boring as fuc

My muscle car was less than an CRV

[mental lion]

Tbf the v8 mustang isn’t crazy fast

[silent oak]

The new GTD is

[kind osprey]

It definitely is

[mental lion]

I meant the gt of course

[kind osprey]

Even the base v8 one is probably over 400

They aren't crazy heavy either

Bmws and Audi have been getting fat lately

[mental lion]

I didn’t say they’re slow but also they’re not over the top fast like a gt500

The v6 however has a performance of a v6 camry

Maybe a bit better

[silent oak]

Why would you get a v6 mustang when you can get a v6 Camry

The v6 Camry is the only Camry I’d drive

[mental lion]

They’re dead

Toyota killed them

[silent oak]

Used market

Imagine Toyota puts their tundra v8 in a Camry

I’d be happy

Make it a Coupe

You have a decent Camry

[mental lion]

They did with the lexus is

Not a camry but close enough

[silent oak]

Did it sell

What’s it called..

[mental lion]

Is-500

[silent oak]

You got the v8 girl interested

How much..

[mental lion]

The new one is about 60k

[silent oak]

Worth it imo

[kind osprey]

I wish they still made the is500

Or an isf

Give it a manual as god intended

I'd buy it

[silent oak]

I just wants a cool v8

[pseudo charm]

Would’ve loved the V8 in the new IS model

People are hating on the new front end but I love it

[silent oak]

The new ram 1500 has the hemi

My weakness

[pseudo charm]

Not too huge of a truck guy

I think there are some cool trucks but idk if I’d ever buy one

[silent oak]

I’m intrested in the hemi!!

Dodge Dakota

Smoll ram

[pseudo charm]

Dodge needs to shove the 6.4 in the new Charger

I don’t care that it’s slower

The car actually looks really nice in person it’s just missing that V8 growl

I haven’t seen any Sixpacks yet though

[silent oak]

Idk if it can fit

They are trying to fit the v8 hemi

[mossy canyon]

Cool v8 u say

Like fast loud?

Oh shit the date on the msg

[silent oak]

Loud, a v8 isn’t as fast an i6 with tt but it’s still something

[mossy canyon]

Mercedes e500 w211

[silent oak]

I’m looking into an older 2000s Mustang gt, or an police charger, and or maybe a new charger i6 or v8

I like older mustangs cuz they are so heritage based

[kind osprey]

@dire shard

after a lot of crashing I feel like I understand this car a lot more

like where to stop the throttle inputs and give it slight taps of control and such

when Istarted driving it I thought it was utter shit but now it is my favorite developer car

[dire shard]

oof i think you gave it a bump of throttle at the balancing point and sent it over

you had some good rotation going into the corner for about a second before sending it off balance

[kind osprey]

I was mainly fucking around with it

I can do clean laps with it now if I lock in lol

The difference now is when I crash I finally know what happened or what went wrong

When I first started using the no assist higher ho older cars the car would just spin and I'd be so confused

[silent oak]

Do you drive with racing wheels

[maiden dawn]

any meets going down?

[remote hill]

I have a scooter😃

[silent oak]

Car me have

[dire shard]

y wudent we

[silent oak]

Wheeel me havey

[dire shard]

hopcon assetto corsa

[silent oak]

I have Culver’s :3

[dire shard]

what that

[silent oak]

Midwestern burger place

[dire shard]

sounds like 3000 kcal

[silent oak]

820 calories for butter double burger deluxe with

[dire shard]

with

what did you add

[silent oak]

I also got the cement mixer

[dire shard]

what

[silent oak]

Hmm ice cream milkshake with m&ms

[dire shard]

is this like a shitty happy meal

oh

aren't you lactose intolerant

sounds like we're not playing assetto corsa today

[silent oak]

It’s a custard based dairy drink

[silent oak]

I try not to think about that

[dire shard]

me neither 😢 we're cursed

[silent oak]

I can’t help myself with American milk shake

[dire shard]

https://vita-club.co.jp/archives/21268/

when are we buying a v.granz and setting up a suzuka champion cup racing team 🥺

[silent oak]

Oh!

[dire shard]

🥺

[jagged sentinel]

In-n-out but better

[zinc badger]

Whats game ?

[wraith marsh]

Yeah the are oddly good

[dire shard]

see i actually know what that is

😎 if it's international, people must like it

[silent oak]

Nope

Not international

[silent oak]

Hmm a concrete mixer with vanilla + m&ms

[wraith marsh]

Damn right

[zinc badger]

True

[mental lion]

Thing is that it’s not

[dire shard]

o sht

i mixed it up with another chain

[silent oak]

Mc Donald’s ?

[dire shard]

i'm not that dumb

[kind osprey]

Assetto corsa

I use a folding mount for the wheel and pedals

[static gale]

I want to upgrade to a new seat

Now that my wheel and brakes are actually quiet, I can hear all the squeaks and creaks of my seat a lot clearer. That, and whole lot more force going through it now

[dire shard]

i gotta get me a rig

clipping my wheel to my desk means i can't manhandle the wheel or else i'll throw everything off the table

and given that the things on my table often cost more than the wheel..

[static gale]

Yeah...

[dire shard]

on the other hand, having what basically looks like a folding lawn chair as a rig never really "sat" right with me

i don't have enough space in my area to complain

[static gale]

Yeah, I have a "lite" version of something similar to what epik has, and I had to add quite a bit of cushioning to make it comfortable for long periods

[dire shard]

something like that does look extremely flat and hard

[static gale]

It's like a cloth hammock otherwise

[dire shard]

i don't have a terrible time in my office chair, to be fair

[static gale]

Ironically, if the seat was wider, it would be more comfortable than my office chair

[dire shard]

why not office chair then

does it move too much

[static gale]

I mean, like, It's already better to me, but I wish it was a bit wider. I can't manspread in it

The office chair is worse in every other way, and because my mom never holds receipts for too long...

[dire shard]

you aren't supposed to spread in it though, isn't that why these chairs have crazy high thigh bolsters

[static gale]

There are no real bolsters in mine

And i just want to be more comfortable in truck sim/ slower paced stuff

When im racing, my legs are together anyway

[dire shard]

🤔

wouldn't know, i don't spread

[silent oak]

I just use an office chair..

My back is already fucked from mechanics work

[kind osprey]

I can't use a chair not fully connected it completely takes me out of the immersion

It it moves and spins and stuff

I hated that

[jagged sentinel]

Speed Racer movie very nais

[silent oak]

Need to re watch

[jagged sentinel]

They're going to be in theaters this week

Just saw the earliest possible screening in IMAX, it was sweet

The movie finally caught up with technology

[silent oak]

Animated or love action

[jagged sentinel]

The live action one

[silent oak]

Nice

[zinc badger]

Amazing Gran Turismo

[dire shard]

the G stands for Gran

[static gale]

Logitech Gran Series

[zinc badger]

No it's for Gran Turismo

I am a fan of this game series.

[kind osprey]

My favorite Logitech game. Gran Turismo 29

[tropic timber]

[zinc badger]

Gran Turismo 7 ?

Or 6 ?

[kind osprey]

Whippersnappers and their 67 memes

[static gale]

I didn't even see it that way until you said this 😔🥲

[silent oak]

Don’t do the bit

[zinc badger]

You are right

[loud spade]

[languid beacon]

isn't this illegal??

[molten coral]

Can I send my car here?

[steady cove]

yes

[molten coral]

Will u be kind

[steady cove]

yes

[molten coral]

Rate car @steady cove

[steady cove]

Looks like a miata

Jk it looks nice

[molten coral]

[steady cove]

2 tone cars are refreshing.

[molten coral]

It identifies as a lawnmower sometimes

[lime dune]

What identifies as a lawnmower

[steady cove]

Dn

[molten coral]

The MX5

[steady cove]

Show the cat

[molten coral]

Okay

[steady cove]

#pets

[molten coral]

I sent it @steady cove

[languid beacon]

so much fun

[stuck owl]

@eager wing, please use the appropriate LFG (Looking For Group) channel:
Casino: #pc-e｜casino-lfg

Requested by: @fallen venture

[kind osprey]

https://youtu.be/iCh2Y-xeds4?si=pJMS66q5bHDXz3Jw

[naive thorn]

is there a way to embed a youtube video without the ads

this was an annoying watch

[kind osprey]

That was added a while back

Whoever did that needs to experience a finger coming off at an ice skating rink

[jagged sentinel]

That's too specific to be an off-riff response

[kind osprey]

I can be creative when I have to be

[silent oak]

Aylmao

[kind osprey]

Lamow

[silent oak]

Lamwo

[mental lion]

60% price increase? Faaaaaaah

[night steeple]

One of my HIDs died 💸 turns out disassembling volvo's headlights are way easier than I thought

[jagged sentinel]

[silent oak]

I hope he has polish Volvo issues

[kind osprey]

Oh boy I feel old

[obtuse urchin]

Do you are is old?

[compact hearth]

My brain broke trying to read this

[kind osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/stroke-cool-gif-27292157

[obtuse urchin]

Yea

[night steeple]

Ladies and gentlemen, the legally different chery obey arrizo s

[kind osprey]

What the hell

[loud spade]

Might aswell just buy a sim racing rig

[kind osprey]

I want to meet the twingo frog

[obtuse urchin]

I was thinking of there being a modern day Twingo

I had no idea it’s real

[dire shard]

it's real, although it's electric

runs the same platform as the renault 5 e-tech and alpine a290

reminding us once again that renault knows how to design retrofuturistic cars but forgot that nobody wants them in electric

[kind osprey]

I don't mind a daily economy car becoming electric ngl

I didn't find the twingo fascinating for its powertrain by any means lmao

[next prawn]

E-bikes are great

Gas prices be damned.

[obtuse urchin]

Yes

[sleek frigate]

awesome frog

[pseudo charm]

Gas is 6.29 I should’ve gotten a Prius

[compact hearth]

It’s 4.21 here in nc which is the highest I’ve ever seen it

[pseudo charm]

I wish ours was back in the 4s

I’m spending like $400-500 a month on gas

[kind osprey]

Damn you drive a lot

I go through a tank once every 3 weeks

[compact hearth]

Fuuuuuukkkkkk

[pseudo charm]

Yeah just commuting to work is like 45-50 minute drive forward and back everyday

[compact hearth]

45-50 one way or there and back

[pseudo charm]

One way 🙁

[compact hearth]

Ooof

[kind osprey]

Thay better be a fun road

If my commute was like a curvy tail of the dragon style mountain road parkway, I wouldn't mind it being a long commute lol

[compact hearth]

💀 I’d go through so many tires if that was the case

[pseudo charm]

Mainly just the highway then the last 5 minutes or so is urban downtown roads. Fun opportunities for some highway pulls though coming home from work at least

[old sedge]

https://www.motor1.com/news/794316/new-cars-mandate-impaired-driver-detection-delay/

If this is true, then how could people let this happen?

[compact hearth]

Good think I refuse to drive anything newer than a 2018

[old sedge]

Your car is not just something to get you from point A to point B

It is your property

In Philippines, a car is an extension of property which is why policemen can't just search inside other people's cars without warrant

[compact hearth]

It’s the same in the us unless they have “probable cause” as in smell weed or alcohol the reason they are doing this to new cars in the us is because we have a horrible drinking and driving death rate every year

[old sedge]

Right to privacy is still and will always be more important than this imo

[compact hearth]

I mean I definitely agree this should only be implemented into people’s cars who have a duis imo

[old sedge]

If it's implemented on general populace

Then it's just another pathway to 1984 novel style tyranny

[compact hearth]

I mean the best way around it is to just not buy a new car

[old sedge]

This article doesn't say that this only applies to people with DUI convictions

[kind osprey]

The only time this should be allowed is if it is a commercial work vehicle

If it is a personal regular car then they can fuck off

[old sedge]

I think this should also be done in government owned vehicles too

Because it's government property after all

But if this is done private vehicles? Fuck that shit

[kind osprey]

My car is a 2023 so I guess I'll be keeping it for as long as I can

New cars suck ass

They all looks like hot future cartoon trash

[old sedge]

Meh, ||no wonder people accuse the US of being fascist||

[kind osprey]

New cars are justbdesigned to lease and forget about after 3 years

[old sedge]

What if

[sick stream]

Its our fault for letting them get away w stuff like this

[old sedge]

Drivers just break the camera lens?

[kind osprey]

I would cover it the second I step in

[old sedge]

I wouldn't

I'll puncture it

[kind osprey]

Or just ecu disable it

[compact hearth]

Super easy to break too

[kind osprey]

Just give me 4c my beloved

Funny little Italian car

[old sedge]

Time to put our foot down and push back

I wish I'm just ragebating about that article and it's not real 🙁

But looks like it's real

[sick stream]

Its always “for our own good” or “for the children!” Whole time we’re getting our freedom™ taken away little by little

[old sedge]

What if you need to drive aggressively because of an emergency?

Your car AI will just suddenly shut your car down because it decided that you're not fit to drive?

[old sedge]

George Orwell's 1984 book is becoming real faster than expected

[sick stream]

If thats the case they would basically be asking us to jailbreak the system

[sick stream]

I need to educate myself more what is it about ?

[old sedge]

If people need to buy cars in the next decade

They should revolt by disabling that AI

And by covering or disabling cameras pointing inside

[sick stream]

Theyll prob come up with a law that would prevent us from doing so

[old sedge]

A story about an era when everyone is constantly monitored by an omni-surveillance, thought police checking everyone's speeches so people need to be careful about what they say but people are convinced it's for safety and anyone who resists is deemed as evil, forced identity checks like people needing to show ID

[old sedge]

If everyone breaks that law, then they can't imprison everyone

[sick stream]

Ah, kinda like the movie what happened to monday

[old sedge]

And it's similar to what's happening now, right?

[sick stream]

Yea

Well the movie is a little more extreme

It takes place in an overpopulated world where a totalitarian government only allows people to have no more than 1 child and they basically track everything that they do

[old sedge]

That sucks. Anyway, even before this, Tesla is already secretly recording Tesla car owners

[silent oak]

It’s for “customer safety”?

[old sedge]

Idk about Tesla, but looks like it’s what the people behind the new law which will require is next year is trying to say

[mental lion]

Mandatory indoors cctv coming next

[old sedge]

Or mandatory cctvs for motorcycles

They don't even implement mandatory cctvs for aircraft because it can cause discomfort for pilots

[silent oak]

Tesla loves to boast about driver safety but all there drivers are maniacs

[mental lion]

I mean everyone sees you on a motorcycle not much of privacy there

[silent oak]

You look cool on one.

[old sedge]

Like sleeping while the autodrive is on?

[pseudo charm]

Next generation of drivers gonna be even worse somehow with the reliance of technology

I remember reading a post of a lady who was blocking a lane in a parking lot because her back up camera froze and she didn’t know what to do

[mental lion]

People nowadays aren’t getting enough practice in everyday situations they somehow pass the test and proceed to cheese their way around afterwards

[silent oak]

That’s why I want a 70s car da

I want a lack of tech

[mental lion]

Interiors peaked in 2010s before we got this abominations

[silent oak]

Eewww

No circular gauge or tachometer

[mental lion]

I miss dashboard integrated gauges

[silent oak]

You still get em

Luxury cars are going digital

[pseudo charm]

When screens are actually integrated into the dash it’s nice but cars that just slap on a giant IPad just looks so tacky to me

[mental lion]

Rarely maybe toyota and honda still do them but most cars are just a floating screen above the steering wheel

[silent oak]

Dodge in 2016 still had a mix of digital and actual gauges

[old sedge]

Similar to the story I said here

[old sedge]

If ever we demand to install CCTV and microphones accessible to us inside all the personal vehicles of the lawmakers who signed this law so we can monitor everything they do inside their cars, they won’t even dare complying

[wet raptor]

probably one of, if not the rarest cars I've seen irl

[digital flame]

trend started by the chinese because LCDs are actually cheaper than making nice looking dashboard area

[wet raptor]

also saw a SF90 just before seeing this

[digital flame]

isnt the sf90 rarer?

[wet raptor]

probably, I just didn't get the chance to take a pic of it because it was just too far from me

tho, maybe the Aston DB5 is even rarer than the SF90

yes, I also saw a DB5, most likely. the car had the shape and color, but it zipped past my bus on our trip, so I was lucky to have caught a glimpse of it

tho it was unique seeing a Bentley Conti near where I live

[wet raptor]

I live in central/eastern europe for context

[digital flame]

seen the bentley suv the other day, what a gross looking box

the bantyaga

[wet raptor]

I also saw that on my trip to the UK

[digital flame]

Bentayga, terrible name

footballer car

[wet raptor]

my dad was once in our capital and he did see a Ferrari Roma

also, "gold" plated Fiat 500

[kind osprey]

Fellow Mclaren enjoyer I see

I drove 170 miles one way just to find this one haha

Such an amazing bucket list cross off to see this in person

[sick pawn]

Y'all

GTA is no longer on XBOX Gamepass 😭

[sick stream]

Im gonna start taking photos of cool cars i see on the street

I cant believe it never occurred to me before

[sick pawn]

I saw a MCLAREN GT3 the other day

[sick stream]

All i have is a random photo of a van that just so happened to be driving by as i was about to take a photo

[sick pawn]

Is a Bugatti La Voiture Noire

Good

I found a random Bugatti earlier

[sick stream]

Toyota corolla better

[silent oak]

Nah Chevy blazer

The old variety

Ranch car

[fair sonnet]

Iv seen 5 cybertrucks in flint Michigan why are they coming here were poor there's nothing here if your passing by take the highway and get your dumpster on wheels out of here

[sullen flame]

Is this backwards

[kind osprey]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/440938910269571072/1500212638267867230/image0.jpg?ex=69f79d65&is=69f64be5&hm=63ed83f14851bffd429df68c579369916865a6cb3366433a40385d112d993e51&

Nothing to see here

Just some vehicles

[sacred kestrel]

Mid photo cuz i was sitting in a wheelchair

I had a broken leg

[kind osprey]

Ooo

[sacred kestrel]

I still have but i can easily walk

[kind osprey]

There are no Paganis here only Koenigseggs and Bugattis. I wanna go to the nearest dealer to check them out but they are 2 hours away

[fair sonnet]

First saw that and thought it was gta

[dire shard]

it's crazy to think that the three sports cars in the picture are probably the cheapest vehicles in this image

it's even crazier to think that these are just some vehicles and nothing else in particular

[kind osprey]

Indeed, indeed

[compact hearth]

Ngl the gmc tuff tho

[timber berry]

f

[next prawn]

Thicc

[compact hearth]

Extra extra wide body

[silent oak]

Jdm kids when they see why Japanese company car

[next prawn]

Why what?

😭

[silent oak]

Jdm kids love unnecessary mods that don’t do a car any good

[next prawn]

"Why Japanese company car"

😭

[silent oak]

As in the words “jdm” but that word lost a lot of meaning

Means any car produced by a Japanese company,

Not imported

[next prawn]

Yeah I know the abbreviation.

[silent oak]

I’m just being my pedantic self

[next prawn]

The grammar just made me giggle.

[silent oak]

ESL moment

[next prawn]

[kind osprey]

How I feel after eating a whole box of these

[kind osprey]

https://youtu.be/7vYtsI2nxS0?si=hY51fIkcdtMPVCrp

[next prawn]

I don't know that cookie brand.

[kind osprey]

It's from the US

They are like crack... omg they are so good

[next prawn]

Must be sugar bloated.

[kind osprey]

That's how candy usually works 😂

[compact lynx]

Thick and juicy where do I even put it in

[next prawn]

The exhaust brother.

[steady cove]

Goofy ahh car

This photo is like 10 yo

[next prawn]

Thicc ahh car.

[next prawn]

I stole it.

[proven thistle]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZP8pJq7fw/

[kind osprey]

https://youtu.be/OlXj2jF3ea4?si=Kz9JyBNcows2Er6z

[dire shard]

yeah the wing actually does something

the real problem is what's going on underneath, and i wonder if that's a limitation of being based on a civic or something

at least it's just aero, nothing aftermarket can't fix

[jagged sentinel]

https://www.instagram.com/p/DUECDONjDDk/?igsh=MWxucWx1a2pya3QzaA==

[kind osprey]

https://youtu.be/QR-rLQUwLZ8?si=DGXr86egI9PH7AoW

[silent oak]

Old people problems ?

[mental lion]

Holy cake

[cyan flume]

hello

[compact hearth]

Traveling in super low cars for hours will do that too you ngl you feel everything on the road even if the suspension is good

[loud spade]

gyat

[worldly ermine]

bro wtf

i feel uncomfortable

[mossy warren]

Uncomfortable ?

[sick stream]

Imagine sally from cars looked like that

[compact hearth]

Why you imagining about sally

[sick stream]

I like porches

[compact hearth]

Porches are nice to sit on Porsches are cars tho

[sick stream]

Welll

[silent oak]

911 gt3 rs seats are nice

They aren’t the most comfortable cars to drive as they are track cars

[regal kite]

@silent oak My friend works at a Porsche dealership as a salesperson.

He said the 911 is the flagship car. But the Cayman, which is less expensive is the better car overall.

That's what I'm trying to get. A Cayman 981 S.

Cayman GT4 if you're trying to track.

[silent oak]

Your buying the 911 for the image and name.

[sick stream]

Or maybe he just likes the car

[regal kite]

That's pretty much what he was saying.

They're still nice cars, but if you just want a sick porsche that drives amazing you don't need to buy a newer 911

[silent oak]

Bruh I want a 928

[sick stream]

First lil post

[silent oak]

Bruh the rich family suv

[old sedge]

I drove a Tesla 1st time

It has advanced tech

But most features including critical functions rely solely on the touchscreen

I guess it's just that I'm skeptical about it because I got used to the saying in aviation that there's a reason why aircraft don't rely on a single component

[static gale]

yeah, i don't like features that were perfectly fine as buttons and knobs being forced into touchscreen submenus

[silent oak]

I couldn’t drive a Tesla

I like the manual experience

Plus lack of motor noise annoys me

[old sedge]

Tesla designed their cars in a way that it has single point of failure

[silent oak]

Is that true.

EV battery

Tech issues

[old sedge]

I don't know if it's intentional, but it certainly has single point of failure because if the touchscreen fails

The car is essentially immobilized

You start up or shut down the car using the touchscreen display

[silent oak]

If it has lane control in her i hate it

[old sedge]

The park, neutral, drive and reverse is also integrated in the screen

No lever for it

And no physical button for start/shut down

[silent oak]

I hate that

If Tesla made an hybrid system maybe

[old sedge]

I doubt they would

[kind osprey]

Nah fuck that

Why would anyone want that

[silent oak]

I hate cars with lane control

I drove a rental with lane control and it annoyed tf out of me

[kind osprey]

Why make the car more inconvenient isn't the whole point of tech to innovative and make stuff better?

Like nobody and I mean fucking nobody asked "can we make it so I have to go through 3 menus on my screen to open my glovebox"

[silent oak]

Tesla clearly can’t

All they can add is more fail points

Tech issues over air update

[old sedge]

Tesla's motto should be "Making simple stuffs complicated"

[silent oak]

Removing the shifter completely

Relying on tech that can be picky if your finger taps don’t register

[old sedge]

I have an idea. Let's remove steering wheel, brake and throttle pedals too, let's integrate their functions in the touchscreen display too

[silent oak]

“ Let’s control the car with our minds “ Elon musk

[silent oak]

It’s the Porsche Jeremy likes

[regal kite]

That’s one of my boss’s Porsches.

[silent oak]

I want a 928

[regal kite]

That is a 928

[silent oak]

Are they cheap for Porsche standards

I really want the Jeremy Clarkson car

[kind osprey]

They probably would if they could

[silent oak]

Make it so you need to install the Elon musk mind Chip

[regal kite]

Technically it’s a 928 GTS

In some “rare” purple blue

[silent oak]

Are they cheap?

For Porsche

[regal kite]

The issue with 928s is most you’re gonna find are not in good condition

[silent oak]

Even in Cali? Where all cars are good

[regal kite]

That’s the only reason my boss said he got this one. It was a rare find. Or… he never sees them in that condition etc

[silent oak]

I want a 928 after seeing Jeremy talk about it

[regal kite]

I’m no expert tbh. I’m learning only because I’ve been obsessed with buying a 981

Been ultra picky so it’s been taking longer than it should’ve

[silent oak]

How much average cost ?

I can get a c4 corvette for 10k

And that’s cheap

[regal kite]

Average cost for what?

928 or 981

[silent oak]

928

[regal kite]

I’m not sure tbh.

I think you find crappy condition ones for not that much.

My first car was a 944 and I got it for 1k

Old guy just wanted it out of his garage

[old sedge]

I wish this feature is real and common on almost all cars
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1F5PUl4j9KY

[silent oak]

I’m a big Porsche fan but the 928 is my favorite outside the 911 gt3rs

I’ve seen a 911 gt3 RS in Vegas

I feel in love

[old sedge]

We need all cars to have a voice control engine start/stop system

[regal kite]

This is pretty much exactly what i'm looking for. Black and red Cayman 981 S

[silent oak]

I don’t like the caymen look

[regal kite]

To each their own. I resepct it

[silent oak]

This

Is what I want

Too bad they are so cost prohibitive

[regal kite]

Yeah, those are super cool. I personally want something that doesn't look so race-tracked out.

Thats my issue with the newer caymans.

[silent oak]

I’d love a track car irl myself

It’s street legal

[regal kite]

The Cayman GT4 is like, the racecar.

Apparently.

[silent oak]

I’m not a big Porsche nerd outside the 928 /911 series

I’m a dodge girl mostly

[regal kite]

I know very little about cars in all actuality. I just only know a lot about the Cayman 981 specifically. lol and like how it compares to other cars sort of.

[silent oak]

Ask me dodge stuff I’ll answer

[regal kite]

I've pretty much just pestered anyone and everyone I know or meet irl about cars if they mention or have a porsche.

[silent oak]

Porsche in the us means wealth

[regal kite]

Trying to get random opinons of things.

Theres 2 lanes imo.

[silent oak]

It’s maintenance cost here is too much

[regal kite]

The older guys who want the luxury aspect.

The youngerish guys who want the performance/quality build

I'm in my 30s. I want the best bang-for-your-buck experience.

[silent oak]

How about the Porsche girls?

You mean rich models

[regal kite]

heh. I asked this lady who was a Porsche salesperson... if they even sell Boxsters to guys because everyone and everything I read was saying it's a "girls car".

I was considering buying a black Boxster 981. It's literally the exact same car as a Cayman 981 except it's a soft top vs hard top.

She's like "...yeah like last week..."

I didn't buy the car becuase I didn't think i'd use the soft top that much.

^ That was the car.

TLDR - there's not only Porsche girls but Porsche sales girls...

You see a lot of ladies in the Panerama or however it's spelled... and the different SUVs.

[static gale]

this was at the Porsche Experience Center in Atlanta

[silent oak]

That is sexy

[static gale]

interesting how it uses Pirellis instead of Michelin

[silent oak]

I love street legal race cars

The viper is a street legal weapon

[static gale]

they had a Rexy, too

[silent oak]

Beauty

Porsche has the best looking track cars

Can’t change my mind

[silent oak]

Beauty, crew motorfest needs that

[static gale]

I used to use the Toyota TS050 in Project Cars 2 all the time, but as soon as I realised the 919 had an MGU-H, I practically never looked back

[silent oak]

Do you think the Porsche 928 is good?

[static gale]

meaning, it could recharge the hybrid battery via the turbo instead of just under braking. Made it OP

[static gale]

it's one of the cars I've seen the least. Maybe only twice in passing irl?

i kinda warm up to all porsches eventually, though

[silent oak]

I know it’s Got its status from Jeremy driving it to see his dad

And carrying chicken

I know that’s the plate from the controversial film

[static gale]

i thought it looked familiar

[silent oak]

I want one so bad

[regal kite]

THere's 3 for sale on BaT right now.

Bring A Trailer and Cars and Bids are my 2 go-to sites.

[silent oak]

How much average

[regal kite]

https://bringatrailer.com/porsche/928/

[silent oak]

I like auto trader

Auto trader has a lot of good cars

[regal kite]

So the way it works on both is that they're up for 7 days.

• Everyone mostly waits to the last day
• people bid
• usually comes down to like 1 or 2 people fighting for it

It's better to look at what the last ones sold for.

[silent oak]

Is a 928 a good daily

I know I’m stupid asf for asking

[regal kite]

My boss said he went to this crazy car show, one of the guys had a party at his house with his garage that had all these lambos and ferraris etc. He had a 928 also.

He asked the guy what car he liked to drive the most out of his collection... and he said the 928

My boss has a rare lambo and goes to all these rich guy car show things...

[silent oak]

Where is your boss located in what country

Is it in an oil country?

[regal kite]

usa

[onyx rivet]

oooh that is a great colour

in sunlight it has a purple-ish shine to it

[sick stream]

Sexy

[old sedge]

This man is speaking facts

[dire shard]

bait used to be believable

[mental lion]

The macan is the girls Porsche nowadays

[silent oak]

Enthusiast Porsche girl or rich girl Porsche

[sick stream]

What a beautiful trash can

[night steeple]

We at a jdm car meet and this sweet pontiac is parked outside

And then theres this kei van pickup conversion

[kind osprey]

He so smol

[old sedge]

Since Tesla has 1 pedal drive system which makes the car automatically brake when you release the throttle pedal

I have an idea. They should remove brake pedals

If ever I buy a Tesla car, I'll have its brake pedal removed

What could possibly go wrong?

[static gale]

what model/gen is that white honda?

[night steeple]

Prolly some crx

[loud spade]

The insurance claim after you crash

[loud delta]

What typa Mr bean ahh car is that 😭

[static gale]

Now that's a guy I'd ask about their car

[compact lynx]

Literally looks like “🤓”

[silent oak]

Looks like driving hazard in on the highway

[sick stream]

Photoshop

[sick stream]

Yk u can download the vid

[compact hearth]

Ye too lazy

[sick stream]

Its literally less work buddy..

Random

[mighty anchor]

Is that NFS Carbon?

[sick stream]

Yup, its on the license plate

[mighty anchor]

hell yea

[sick stream]

Mann ive been wanting to replay it for a min

[mighty anchor]

I recently did a full playthrough of 3 games in a row

NFS Underground

NFS Underground 2

And most wanted

Carbon would be next ;d

[sick stream]

I think mw was the last good one

[mighty anchor]

yea.. they don't make games like that anymore

shame

[sick stream]

I mean im not much a car game guy anyway, like, at that point just play gta lmao

But those games were special

[mighty anchor]

The soundtrack especially

Just the whole vibe overall

It was an era of fast and furious

[old sedge]

I'm thinking of a new anti-car theft measure people can do to prevent their cars being stolen if parked outside at night

Remove all car tires and remove steering wheel and engine if they have to

Then just put them back to the car before use

[sick stream]

Theres many people in chicago and ny that already do the work for you, except you dont get the tires back

[compact hearth]

Eh don’t care all I gotta do is swipe down and tap a button 🤷🏻‍♂️

[old sedge]

Removing tires would prevent self-driving repo system from working too

[compact hearth]

Just buy a manual most people can’t drive them

[old sedge]

Manual is getting obsolete in this era now. Most modern cars are autos now

[compact hearth]

Ye I refuse to buy modern cars so I wouldn’t have that issue

[mental lion]

The macan?

There isn’t too much enthusiasm going on there

Unless it’s a turbo then it’s a tiguain on steroids

[dire shard]

the macan gets really good from the gts onwards

it's becomes a really fat but really powerful >400hp hot hatch

[loud spade]

Should I buy

[dire shard]

shitposting

i wonder what dog breeds exist that someone can actually ride on

[steady cove]

Yes they are called horses

[dire shard]

no those are for umapyoi

[whole ginkgo]

@vague dawn suggest em a good car

[vague dawn]

Corsa slaps

[silent oak]

Umas are valid form of transport

[old sedge]

About the article I posted which talks about a law requiring new cars to monitor drivers in the US, wouldn't that violate the US vs. Jones Supreme Court ruling which that court ruled that a warrant is needed for policemen to install GPS on people's cars? Unless they're going to make the car harvest the data and bring it to the companies first

[dire shard]

under united states v. jones, it was determined that the police installing a gps system on to a car was an act constituting as a search under the fourth amendment
the fourth amendment prohibits unreasonable searches and seizures by government bodies, including police

the fourth amendment does not apply to corporations acting against you, and the united states v. jones case did not set a precedent to apply against corporations
corporations will be the one receiving and monitoring the data in this case, although no comment is made on whether the government will force corporations to hand that data over - something to be aware of is that corporations are also protected by unreasonable search and seizure by the fourth amendment, so corporations can refuse to hand your data over to the government without a valid warrant

the funny thing to note is that manufacturers have already been implementing systems to watch the driver, and have been doing so for some time
existing driver monitoring systems use cameras and other sensors and systems to watch your eyes and head position, detect whether you're actually holding the wheel and steering the wheel for even miniscule movements like correcting for road surfaces and will beep, apply hazard lights, or automatically apply brakes if you're showing signs of not being alert on the road
volkswagen's electric cars are even capable of pulling over for you if the car detects that you're distracted, not conscious, or otherwise incapable of operating the vehicle: https://www.vw.com/en/iq-drive/emergency-assist.html

you'll find that there's not a whole lot of laws prohibiting the gathering of this information

[fair sonnet]

Well if that's not a reason to buy modern cars. I don't know what is

[dire shard]

what the recent law explicitly enables is that it looks at you and determines whether or not you're even allowed to start the car or not

yeah, if i were american i sure wouldn't be buying modern cars after 2027

that said, i'm not american 😎

[fair sonnet]

Ok what about imported American cars?

[dire shard]

cars imported out of america?

[fair sonnet]

Yeah

[dire shard]

god, i'm not sure why anybody would willingly buy a modern american car if they manufactured the car in america, it's likely that if the cameras and sensors are legal in the jurisdiction that the market is being sold in, the car will have those features because it's more cost effective than building cars that do and do not have those systems side by side

[fair sonnet]

I mistyped and I just realized I meant if this is a reason to not buy modern cars I don't know what is

[dire shard]

yes, that's how i interpreted it

i sure wouldn't buy a modern car if there was a camera looking at me and deciding whether i look good enough for the car to start up

[fair sonnet]

Your tired it's 6 am you need to go to work or drive to school you go to start the car and it just locks up says something about you looking too tired

[dire shard]

honestly, that's sort of what's intended and at its core, you can somewhat justify that reasoning - depending on how tired you are, driving when extremely fatigued is comparable if not worse than driving under the influence of alcohol
i believe it was found that staying up for 24 hours was roughly equivalent to a 0.1 BAC
and not only that, unlike alcohol where you slowly get sober, if you continue not to sleep your state actually gets worse

[fair sonnet]

I meant like that morning fatigue you still feel tired for a little bit after waking up

[dire shard]

what is worrying, however, is that this system enables visual discrimination far worse than saying whether you're tired or not
say, class discrimination: you look a little raggedy, the car isn't gonna start
or racial discrimination: i'm asian and statistically asians cause a lot of accidents, so my car might not start

well mister nhtsa, if my car doesn't start, how am i supposed to get myself to work so i can afford to look less raggedy, especially with how car-centric america is with its extremely limited public transportation infrastructure

[fair sonnet]

I mean we have buses but yeah I understand what you mean

[static gale]

"we"

[dire shard]

some places do, some places don't, and even in some places that do, its coverage is poor

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[static gale]

they're literally closing most of the bus stops in my area 😭

[dire shard]

boy what a great country huh

[static gale]

no.

[dire shard]

[fair sonnet]

Well it's better then China

[dire shard]

in some ways yes, in some ways no - in the scope of #transportation and the concept of your car literally not starting if you look funny + the availability of public transportation for those who cannot or do not want to drive, i'd say probably no

[fair sonnet]

True

[old sedge]

While governments cannot search a car without warrant or probable cause, the loophole they'll exploit would be buying drivers' data from car manufacturers

They'll say that they didn't search the corporations, the corporations sold data to them

[dire shard]

correct

which they've already been doing anyways

[old sedge]

Oh my. Even here, spare tires are being replaced by tire repair kits

I still prefer spare tires because if you need one but you don't have one, then you're stranded

[dire shard]

even when they can give you the things, they won't

because i know too much about these cars, the example i can draw is the gr86

it comes with a repair kit, but it has an entire tire well in the trunk

[indigo folio]

What a interesting channel lol first thing I see is paragraphs

😶 what you typing
Edit: okay i see

[dire shard]

you can fit the spare, tire support, and floor jack from the first generation gt86 and put it all in there
and if you wanted, you could even get a full tire in there and custom fabricate a raised floor to cover it too

like cmonbruh you already put the hole there

[loud spade]

Nowadays you’ll find tire shops that’ll roadside repair pretty much anywhere

So unless you’re god knows where with no service, then you’re good

[mystic hazel]

I couldn't get a spare tire outta my car if I wanted or I had one still

[potent meteor]

If my 07 jeep was actually drivable I wouldn’t even attempt to get the spare tire out 😭

Unless I had help that is

[mystic hazel]

Well I'd have to remove 210lbs of sub outa my car then some how get the box built for the subs outa my car that was partially built in the car to fit plus my hatch is bolted shut

[potent meteor]

Damn

[mystic hazel]

Yeah definitely no way in fuck I'm getting any spare tire out of my car

[potent meteor]

I was cleaning this jeep once and found like 4 big wasp nest 😭

Actually no it was 5 because there was on on every door

[mystic hazel]

W Mazda 3

But rip

[potent meteor]

It’s my dads he said he might give it too me

[mystic hazel]

There so reliable

My 3 is a hatchback has 273k miles on it an the only issue I've ever had with it was the coil packs going bad when I first got it

[potent meteor]

That’s almost how many miles this car had before we had to sell it

[mystic hazel]

Did it have the Lil diesel?

[potent meteor]

Nah this one didn’t have that

[mystic hazel]

Ah I've heard a couple of then that had the diesel they sounded sick modified exhaust obviously

[potent meteor]

This just had a standard v6

I would have loved to modify this car but it turned into a pos 😭

After driving the car for like 5 minutes it would start smoking a lot

And it could barely do highway speeds😭

[mystic hazel]

That sucks

[potent meteor]

Yea then the day after we sold it to someone the engine blew 😭

[mystic hazel]

Lmao

Everything i own runs fine it's just a mater of do i Wana feel safe or do i Wana feel unsafe or do i Wana burn a shit load a gas

[pseudo spruce]

Reliablity is the way borski

[old sedge]

I'll still pick spare tire over tire repair kits because many tire shops here close at night time and I bet having a new tire delivered to my location would be more expensive than having a spare tire

That's why one Youtube video described the act of replacing spare tire with tire repair kit/mobility kit "Automakers call it weight savings and fuel efficiency. But let's call it what it really is, cutting corners at your expense."

[sick stream]

What if two of your tires go flat at the same time what then

[potent meteor]

Steal someone else’s spare tire

[loud spade]

Anybody tried IRC tires here

They seem to be pretty reputable but they get manufactured in like 6 different countries so I’m a bit skeptical about consistency

[static gale]

then stop driving over spike strips

[silent oak]

“Stop evading the law!”

[sick stream]

I really like this fiat, been seeing them popping up more and more in recent years

They sound pretty good as well

[silent oak]

Fix it again Tony

[unreal niche]

Hola soy nuevo grupo

[static gale]

I'm sure #gta-vehicles would love this photo of your screen

[indigo folio]

Leyland Mini 1000 Mark IV better

[odd oriole]

Oops wrong channel

[queen arch]

Nothing wrong to see here...

[zealous lintel]

propane is good for health

trust me

just don't let it explode mate

[old sedge]

Remember this incident?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGZLYx8StWk

Imagine if they drove an armored Cybertruck instead of armored Land Cruiser

[static gale]

no

[old sedge]

Wouldn't a Cybertruck make them escape faster with less damage?

It's faster, tougher and more maneuverable after all

[potent meteor]

Are cybertruck even sold there

[sick stream]

First time seeing one of these mfs irl

It wasnt even driving itself..

[smoky marlin]

These mfs cause so much traffic in nyc

Even with actual drivers inside

[sick stream]

It might actually be over

[dire shard]

brabus plz

[old sedge]

Idk. Maybe Tesla should sell cars in South Africa, it is Elon's former home country after all

Tesla Cybertrucks make Toyota Land Cruisers obsolete

[next prawn]

Tesla should make a brand called No Tesla and make the best South African vehicles fr.

[old sedge]

And idk how would hydrogen fuel cell vehicles have a future

Or if it will be a viable alternative to EVs

Elon Musk himself said that it's a silly concept, he called it "fool sells"

He also called hydrogen fuel cells dumb

[loud spade]

[silent oak]

And idiots buy?

Like every EV driver

[dire shard]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZF4BzThiG8

[loud spade]

How is he so confident there isn’t some pothole or gravel on the road

I wish we had decently maintained mountains roads like this

[reef kiln]

It's called gambling with your life and it's an art.

[loud spade]

At least the road is clear of any incoming cars

But I could never, the most I’ve done on a bike is 120 and it was in a straight line on a 4-5 lane highway and barely any cars around

But I also don’t really trust my brakes, since I put on some $5 pads and haven’t changed them ever since

[static gale]

Oh, is this the LA Canyons?

Like, the LA Canyons, or somewhere else?

[kind osprey]

When I need to describe how hot a girl is to a car enthusiast, and then I send them this video lol

[steady cove]

isnt this the car from cyberpunk

i knew i wasnt tripping

[sick stream]

Is it

[silent oak]

It looks like a bmw crossed with a rolls Royce

The front is bmw esc

[mossy canyon]

Ngl this shit looks good

I kinda like it

[steady cove]

I like you too

The car**

[mossy canyon]

[mossy canyon]

What’s an actual good sleeper car

[loud spade]

Toyota corolla with a turbo

[reef kiln]

Toyota's a good company overall.

Toyota, Honda, Lexus.

[viral fiber]

Who has free money tips

[kind osprey]

Rob girls scouts and sell the cookies

True entrepreneurship

[mental lion]

That’s evil

[gilded bolt]

Don’t waste all your money on a girl

[silent oak]

Damn solid

[gilded bolt]

Spend money on them until you realize they don’t spend any on you fr

[silent oak]

Unless they are ones in your hobby and you share a hobby

[kind osprey]

How am I gonna increase my Hoékmon dex without Benjamin balls

[sick stream]

who in thje hell is benjamin balls

[loud spade]

It’s me

I am bejamin balls the 2nd

[reef kiln]

Waste it on shark cards

[modern gazelle]

why

[kind osprey]

Ew

[static gale]

They should have used the George Russell logo for the rear lights

[kind osprey]

Why does every new vehicle have to look like a Chinese ev

Can't they be original

[sick stream]

Ive never understood that hand emoji

[potent meteor]

Fh-1 hunter flying by me

[sick stream]

Yall know what this means right

[loud spade]

Balls

[potent meteor]

?

[mossy canyon]

Ur cooked gng

[silent oak]

Chinese EV ewww

[obtuse urchin]

I don't hate it

Like even

[high jackal]

HOW DID U SEE ME BRO, I THOUGHT I HAD GHOST ORGINIZATION ACTIVE

[potent meteor]

I could hear your loud ah helicopter 😭

[high jackal]

u didnt think it was a bee

[trail notch]

How about:
e30 "korinen" e3, 2.7 with double turbo.

[empty niche]

[kind osprey]

A3 door on an a5?

😭

[empty niche]

looks like an a8 door on an a8L

[kind osprey]

A8 feels a lot longer than that but maybe my eyes are deceiving me

[static gale]

Oh that's what was going on there

I thought my eyes were fuckin with me

[potent meteor]

Bro please fly somewhere 😭🙏 @high jackal

[sick stream]

Yall know what this means right

[silent oak]

Recruitment

I’d be recruited very easily to the military

[sick stream]

They for sure love us 18-24 year olds to die for our country

[silent oak]

I’m easy impressed

Show me military helicopters and I join

[sick stream]

You should enroll

[gritty lichen]

Lame I can’t put my car in here and post pics or vids

boo

[silent oak]

Marine corp girl!! Hurah

[languid pasture]

Pre emptive first

nice try @granite kelp I saw that

[granite kelp]

@maiden carbon

[maiden carbon]

ayy

[hybrid charm]

[maiden carbon]

Can I spam this channel

[hybrid charm]

2nd so pf isnt

[granite kelp]

Yes!

well. you can, because I know you'll spam good stuff

[hybrid charm]

spam = mu.. what?

oh makes sense

[maiden carbon]

Starting with the exotics

[hot crescent]

bf 109

[languid pasture]

Who would win

[hot crescent]

plane would win

obv

[languid pasture]

Tho I'd much rather get one of these:

[hot crescent]

my brother just bought this audi

[cyan lagoon]

Oh so we’re sending pics of planes?

[vernal drift]

Yooooo slr

slrs are the best thing mercedes has ever created

[hybrid charm]

its also the dream car i know i will never get

same

[maiden carbon]

My buddy found the Evo again

[granite kelp]

an old friend at this point

[ocean rock]

@kind osprey id take that 2 seater f1 cars instead thanks

10$ to sit in an oval bathtub

i prefer the 2020 indycar

[kind osprey]

Hrsepwr

Cotonkatonk

My dad spotted this today

Around Broadway

[versed vortex]

I will catch you

[cyan lagoon]

My dad spotted this today
@kind osprey Tesla beside a Ferrari

[kind osprey]

Tesla besides a Ferrari is Manhattans common combination

Besides black Chevy Tahoes and lwb Range Rover’s

@versed vortex put your photo in #gta-media please

[versed vortex]

mb

[dire shard]

god

wtf

i saw a mk4 with a kit today and the only way i recognized it was the headlight shape and hood length

why even put kit on it

[marsh beacon]

Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you the 2001 Corbin Sparrow

[kind osprey]

Austin Powers flashbacks

[ocean rock]

looks like vettel's ride if its rwd

spinning machine

speaking of vettel, and small ass car

[kind osprey]

it seems Ferrari being owned by Fiat gives him good access to the line up lol

[strong rapids]

Ferrari is not owned by Fiat anymore

[kind osprey]

That one has suicide doors

odd

[strong rapids]

Fiat is now with Chrysler

[kind osprey]

Fiat owns Chrysler and Chryslers sub divisions like Dodge, Jeep, the mopar group etc

idk the exact percentages

[strong rapids]

yeah

*This is why quality sucks, just saying

[kind osprey]

Fiat still owns Ferrari, Fiat is a powerhouse kinda like VW

[strong rapids]

Do they? I think I heard they don't but Okay

[ocean rock]

Maserati and Alfa uses ferrari engine but maserati have more engine blowout

[kind osprey]

idk who else would buy Ferrari, that would be a big deal

[strong rapids]

yeah

[kind osprey]

when did Alfa's use Ferrari components?

They seem too adorable for that

lol

Maserati's blow up so it's gotta be Ferrari

[strong rapids]

I think Alfa's Engine is designed by Ferrari, I maybe wrong.

[ocean rock]

literally designed with ferrari's blueprint.

[strong rapids]

I guess I was right

[kind osprey]

quadrifoglio

so the $80,000 one

that makes more sense I guess

Italian stuff is cool and all, unless it is Lamborghini I'm more into German engineering and styling