transportation

[silent oak]

Le French cool rally car

[lone geyser]

the irony of getting a small battery for qweight reduction is more expensive than the bigger battery

a fullsize battery for my e46 is like idk $90 or so

an antigrav battery for it is over a thousand

[jagged sentinel]

[lone geyser]

thousand bucks for like a 50 lb weight saving

[jagged sentinel]

Yikers

[lone geyser]

yet i can pull my spare, rear seats and passenger seats for free and get ~200 lbs

that battery swap would be like really pushing for low weight

esp given that grand could be put into buying a 3.0 engine to swap in for more gains and less cost

[fleet owl]

It's not branded as being lightweight or anything it's just small

There are lightweight ones that are like £700

Nvm I see we're referencing the same type of battery

[kind osprey]

Mclarens car battery is like $4000 or something like that

But ot only weighs a few pounds which is pretty neat

[lone geyser]

probably the tech that pioneered the anti grav batteries

[kind osprey]

Never heard of that brand specifically

But it is not a normal 12 volt car battery, it's just a lithium ion slab

Like a mini ev car battery

Since it is only meant to replace the car battery it is tiny and light

But $150 for a normal one vs like $3-5k is the kicker lol

[lone geyser]

from what i remember they are fairly new

https://antigravitybatteries.com/?srsltid=AfmBOoqtCn-0xnGjkcIZrHIpwckb3sNNOjbeQDwwHb99rmifj-Q6S2uo

[kind osprey]

This wpuld be good for something like a pricey kit car

[fleet owl]

What I wanna know is how much less do they weigh

Nvm it's 70%

[lone geyser]

decided to clean out my interior this morning so i could list my bimmer for sale

[static gale]

y'know, the thing every car owner looking to sell their car should do, but many forego.

[fleet owl]

Need to get a trim in here one day

[silent oak]

Today on top shear..

[fleet owl]

Never seen a brake drum like this

[static gale]

got them air cooling fins

[lone geyser]

I agree

As someone who used to detail professionally for car sales a simple vacuum can go a long way

[silent oak]

Hii car chatto

[kind osprey]

Insurance said I couldn't get a warrenty even though I am below the 10,000 miles they wanted because I'm not the first owner

Well technically it was a lease...

So they didn't actually own it

https://tenor.com/view/joke-just-kidding-checkmate-liberal-checkmate-liberals-gif-5913342555620609909

[silent oak]

Insurance haha

[kind osprey]

https://www.cars.com/vehicle/8b99fe37-79c0-4ede-addf-d299a112137a

Might buy later

😩

[silent oak]

@kind osprey

Expended my search

[dire shard]

2D (cardboard cutout of mustang)

[silent oak]

More pictures Mr miju!!

[wispy reef]

How can I send pics here

I have cars

Guess I will have to level up or something

[loud spade]

Must be level 5

[naive thorn]

Send now

You are level 5

[wispy reef]

Yeah after I talked for a while

[kind osprey]

Cool, what country are those plates?

[naive thorn]

🇸🇦

[lone geyser]

That an f10?

I dont know much past the E chassis cars

[sage roost]

Pretty sure that's a 7 series

[lone geyser]

Was my second guess but i decided to elude that

[wispy reef]

It’s not 5 series

[wispy reef]

Saudi

[lone geyser]

We all know im a firm lover of the 3’s

[wispy reef]

I just don’t like bmw anymore mgl

But they look cool

[lone geyser]

Mines been pissing me off so much its for sale rn 🤣

[silent oak]

It’s staring you in the face

[wispy reef]

Let me guess
Oil leak?

[lone geyser]

Transmission leak

[wispy reef]

Also my passenger door stopped closing

[wispy reef]

My suspension broke

[wispy reef]

Never had to deal with that

[silent oak]

It’s got the child gap teeth look lmao

[wispy reef]

I was thinking about buying an mk5 supra but it’s just another bmw

[lone geyser]

Yesssss!

That factory plate frame is horrid

It used to be black and i painted it cuz it angered me 🤣

[silent oak]

I’m a huge 8 series fan Kate

Are they reliable as daily cars

[wispy reef]

I bought this back in 2019 because I needed something I could drive for a while

[lone geyser]

No 🤣

[wispy reef]

I don’t believe you know bmw very well

[lone geyser]

They are cool but reliable?

[silent oak]

I drive a challenger reliability is LAST thing on my mind

[lone geyser]

Thats a fucking v12 bmw lmaooo

you literally asked about reliability

[silent oak]

I had lifter ticks recently

[pseudo charm]

Has a 50% chance of blowing up every 1000 miles

[silent oak]

What are ya doing cooking stuff in the desert?

[wispy reef]

Perhaps

[silent oak]

Atleast she’s still strong and drives well

[lone geyser]

Waltuh stop making 5w40 the bmw meet was last week

[pseudo charm]

Oh no I mean the Beamer

[lone geyser]

Bimmer

Has too many wheels to be a beamer

[pseudo charm]

Brimmer

[silent oak]

Oh I want beeg 8 series

I want to hate myself

More then I already do

[lone geyser]

Someones selling 2 850ci’s for like $1000

[silent oak]

How bad condition

[lone geyser]

I was so tenpted to buy them and v12 swap the 46

[lone geyser]

Like not great, youd be able to make one half decent one out of the 2

[pseudo charm]

By yourself a used 130K+ mile M5

[lone geyser]

And have a spare v12 for when the first one goes

[silent oak]

In the ceo of bad decisions I fit the bmw clientele

Or am I fitting the ford/ Dodge

[pseudo charm]

We got the bad timeline where pre 2020 BMWs are unreliable and a massive headache

[silent oak]

Fair

[lone geyser]

Pretty much every engine that isnt an i6 excluding the n55

[wispy reef]

My next car will be Japanese
Im done with the German/american

[pseudo charm]

Or maybe it’s just a constant in the multiverse

There’s no escaping a V12 BMW blowing up in your face

[silent oak]

I want a skyline gtr but realize.. IM FLAT BROKE

[lone geyser]

Dont be poor

I had one when i was 18 🤣

[silent oak]

Lucky bastard..

[pseudo charm]

We also got a bad timeline where R34 GT-Rs are 150-250K

[silent oak]

How bout r32?

[lone geyser]

They were 139k USD msrp in the 90:

[pseudo charm]

Like it’s a cool car but why are we paying Supercar money for a 300 hp sports car

[silent oak]

I like r32s curvy

[lone geyser]

Good condition used r32 gtr is like 40 - 50k

[silent oak]

DEAL DEAL GAME

[pseudo charm]

I’ve seen base GT-Rs for like 60-80K

[lone geyser]

So you choose like r32 GTR or r34 GTT

[silent oak]

R32 I love the curvy front

[pseudo charm]

Most Nismos though are like 100K+ from what I’ve seen

I’ve seen 300K+ R34 Nismos

[silent oak]

I love this gen

[crisp nimbus]

Should I buy a crusty ass used car? It's technically cheaper than the gaming pc I've been begging my mom for xD (I'm 16?
Idk what I'd do with a car though since I can't fucking drive

[lone geyser]

One of my buddies has an R32 GTSR with like his own version. Of the gtr kit

[silent oak]

What ever you can afford

[lone geyser]

Its got the bumpers but its sick for a car he only paid 19k for

[silent oak]

I want a proper gtr. Gtr or nothing

[crisp nimbus]

I'm asking you guys what would I do with a used car cuz I'm bored rn

[fast edge]

presumably you'd drive it

[silent oak]

If your spending big money on import cars then go big or go home

[crisp nimbus]

beside driving it* (I can't drive)

[lone geyser]

Let it sit in the driveway and depreciate its remaining financial value

[fast edge]

absolutely nothing

[crisp nimbus]

great idea lowkey

[lone geyser]

I would know 😎

[silent oak]

You ain’t gonna sell

[crisp nimbus]

promote kate to head moderator very helpful

[lone geyser]

🤣🤣🤣

Head mod exclusively for this chat

I don’t interact with the actual gta channels anymore anyway

[silent oak]

I like this s2k, it sold for 25k

It’s rhd ❤️

[pseudo charm]

S2K is one of the few JDM cars that is kinda nicely priced

Still a bit overpriced imo but it’s still affordable

[silent oak]

I kinda want an s2k

After fast furious, sukis s2k

I like

[pseudo charm]

S2Ks are pretty cool yeah I like them

[lone geyser]

For an enthusiast car yeah, the base ones are still decently priced

[silent oak]

I want a Jdm RHD to feel at home

[lone geyser]

Iirc some sp2 club racers were pushing like $200k on BaT

I need the internet to start shit talking mark 4 supras again so i can buy a handful of them for cheap

[silent oak]

Idk I grew up on a rhd car in Japan when I dared to drive there

[lone geyser]

Or some dumbass kid to sell one for 9 grand as a camry

[lone geyser]

Ive seen this once and it sold within the same day, and im so mad i didnt buy it

[silent oak]

I despise Camrys

[lone geyser]

If you knew how to read youd have seen i said “sold supra as camry”

It was a mark 4 supra

Listed as a camry

[silent oak]

I’d rather drive a Nissan juke,

And drive into a cold river

[pseudo charm]

New Camrys are pretty nice

Unfortunately only gonna be a 4 banger hybrid but it’s at least a nice looking eco car

The previous gen TRDs are also pretty cool but like just get a Lexus IS 350 atp

[silent oak]

The Lexus is just a better Toyota

Lexus praise

[lone geyser]

Mehhhhh lowkey id rather an RB26DETT swapped GTT nowadays (i dont like AWD for my fun cars personally)

And like id never drive a skyline in the winter, im nice to my cars

Lowk i fuck with the r34 sedan though 😆

Shame the stagea does it all better for a family skyline

[silent oak]

I shouldn’t have a skyline in the Midwest

[pseudo charm]

Yeah I’d buy a TRD Camry if Lexus didn’t exist but as it stands the same year IS 350s just make more power, are AWD, and look better imo

[silent oak]

More class~

[lone geyser]

Probably not, no but if you like baby the shit out of it you’d be fine

[silent oak]

Camrys have that “new driver” energy

Lexus have the dignified driver look

[lone geyser]

First gen Lexus LS400 me beloved

Fuck maybe i should buy one

[silent oak]

Better then a bmw

[lone geyser]

I agree

I get a 4l v8 RWD vip big body

For like 2k more than my e46 cost

[silent oak]

Get LWB too

Proper limo shit

[lone geyser]

Long wheel base? On a lexus 🤣🤣

Pretty sure they only had one body style

[silent oak]

I’ve seen a Toyota century in Tokyo before, beauty thing I want one

But they are expensive and are limited

[lone geyser]

Youd need like a crown for limo shit

Or the uhh

Nissan president

[silent oak]

Century

Best luxury Toyota

[lone geyser]

Yea the century is just the toyota competitor to the president

Although this specific president looks more like an ls400 competitor

[silent oak]

You can have bunch of hostesses and still be dignified in a century

[kind osprey]

Base?

They didn't have performance enhancing trims lol

There's the cr but that's an overpriced collectors thing nowadays

Oh to be able to buy one of those new 😩

Lucky bastards

[silent oak]

Mr epik! I kinda like a s2k in pink

Tryna be a suki

[kind osprey]

That one you posted is clean

But I can't stand rhd

I would only drive one of I was in the uk or Japan

[silent oak]

Can I paint it bright suki pink

[kind osprey]

Rhd on roads you drive on the right side of feels like shit

Making left turns is a nightmare

[silent oak]

I grew up on a rhd drive car. So it’s natural to me

[fast edge]

of course, you wouldn't take pictures of a dirty car

[silent oak]

Lhd was a bitch to learn

I’m so used to my dominant hand on the wheel

And driving my friends manual it was strange with my dom hand on the stick

[kind osprey]

It's better to be positioned closer to the middle of the road

So if you are driving on the left side then rhd is fine

[silent oak]

I’m just used to it imo

[kind osprey]

Fair

[silent oak]

Like I’m right handed

My dominant hand on the wheel is way more comfortable

[kind osprey]

I am left handed so I am curious as to how it would feel

[silent oak]

I just rest my hand on the shifter like timo Salonen

[kind osprey]

Moving my hand outward to go to first and second and closer to me for the higher gears

[silent oak]

As I’m in the us.. it’s weird with the idea of driving RHD

Like I know it’s rare but most Americans are used to passenger right side

So they accidentally get into drivers seat before I get there

[lone geyser]

Yeah the base sp1 sp2 and the cr

[kind osprey]

What?

[kind osprey]

The ap1 and ap2 generation codes

The first gen was great but people complained about the torque, fishy handling and powerband so the second gen fixed all that

But some enthusiasts say the second gen lost a bit of charm

By cutting the redline from 9000 to 8000

One honestly doesn't feel better than the other it's moreso preference

The cr is an ap2

It was only made in 2009

[lone geyser]

I know, they are still bases.

[kind osprey]

Base implies there is something better

If there is no trim level it is kinda like saying 1 x 1

In the end the answer it still one

Ik the newer s2000's have a bigger engine and are probably more refined but the first gens just have something special to them

The way they just slide and rev so high

Damn this feels like talking about a burger when you are hungry 😩

Now I want an s2000

[lone geyser]

this is how i feel when my stepdad says i should buy a car ive wanted for years

he wanted me to identify this "80s looking v8 toyota that was really loud"

it was a 1995 lexus ls

and then he goes "you should buy one of those"

liek YEAH i want one so badly 🤤

speaking of i just found a guy selling 2 98 ls400's

i dont like the second gen facelift but i wonder if you could theoretically retrofit the first gen face on it

[kind osprey]

The ls400 is sick

[lone geyser]

its like all the things i like about my e46 but with 2 more cylinders 120 more horsepower and a way more refined look

[dire shard]

yea i would

[wispy reef]

That was my favorite thing to do back then
Until they introduced 20k fines and prison for anyone who does it

And also the possibility of getting this

[loud spade]

Hajwala?

[wispy reef]

Yes

[kind osprey]

The largest Auto vs Manual price discrepancy

Either the manual on this feels like sex, or the auto paddles suck that much

[opal forum]

I wonder how much an auto to manual conversion would cost

[lone geyser]

Explain this then

[real trench]

Got to see a random old ford panel van today

[jagged sentinel]

[real trench]

Sadly they didnt have merch. I was 1000 percent ready to give feld way to much money for a shirt but now to be petty i will be ordering from either team scream or tomfoolery because #supportindependntteams

[loud spade]

You forgor to mention 10k miles difference too

But that’s still insane

[kind osprey]

My guess is probably 75k-100k

[kind osprey]

It's pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme, the difference in miles is only a small fraction of the factor

Autos go for $200-300k and manuals go for $600k-$1.2mil

The discrepancy is insane

@opal forum at that point, a professional manual conversion is the best bang for your buck but it won't be a collector car or anything like that

It might not raise the value of the car as much as it costs to do it

[loud spade]

Didn’t the stradman get one and convert it into a manual

[somber pivot]

I dont know how they did it.. But BMW got me to like the ugly upcoming BMW iX3

[dire shard]

it's a gated manual, in that specific orange with the red interior lookin like a grapefruit

gated in a v12 = monkey price

[silent oak]

Hai chatto!

[mental lion]

Nah that’s a factory one and it’s worth like a $100k more than a normal manual murcielago

Maybe i exaggerated a bit here lol

Same car sold for double the price in just 2 years

[kind osprey]

They shot up in price like the Carrera gt

[silent oak]

What’s a cheap but cool sports car ?

[kind osprey]

S2000, gr86, miata, I guess civic si if you want it to be your sole practical car

Depends on your definition of cheap

[onyx rivet]

also depends on your definition of cool

i'd elect the Suzuki Swift Sport but I dunno if you fw them or if they are sold in your market

[silent oak]

Practical and sport car.. worst 2 words to include together

[mental lion]

Well there are many practical sports cars

Like the m3/m3 touring

[silent oak]

I want a coupe, only stipulation

[onyx rivet]

pretty much all of the above that epikderpywhale have suggested

[silent oak]

How bout old Acura integras?

[onyx rivet]

sure

I dunno how cheap they go where you may be from but they good handling and they got fantastic aftermarket support

[silent oak]

Are they considered sports cars or just eco boxes

[onyx rivet]

they're moreso cool econoboxes first then sportscar later

the higher the trim the more sporty they'll be

[mental lion]

Yea I’m just saying it’s not a bad combo

[silent oak]

Idk I’ve always loved the 90s integras cuz of the front end

[silent oak]

I’m into 2 doors cuz single

[onyx rivet]

they got

two different ones

[silent oak]

The cool one.. the left

The right is so boring

[onyx rivet]

interesting take actually

[silent oak]

The left round headlights are better

[onyx rivet]

because 9 outta 10 people I converse with that generation integra they prefer the JDM front

[silent oak]

The American front is SEXY

[onyx rivet]

yeap gonna disagree with that

the usdm integra doesn't even look like from the rest of the US Honda lineup

but I do agree it has more personality to the bug eyes

[silent oak]

I like the round bug eye integra

Idk adds to its exotic look

Like “I can’t afford a fancy car but I can afford this”

[pseudo charm]

My uncle had an LS5 swapped Integra when I was younger. Was the coolest car to me for a while

[dire shard]

the usdm bumper look like a 🤓 and the jdm bumper look like a 😎

[silent oak]

The jdm looks so basic tho

The usdm one looks kinda cool

[dire shard]

👎

[silent oak]

Mijuuuuu

[dire shard]

yes

wait, no, go to sleep

[kind osprey]

Not really, there are plenty of amazing lightweight good handing 4 doors

[lone geyser]

The one with the JDM front was my first car!

[dire shard]

chevron my beloved

[static gale]

Now with Techron™️!

[lone geyser]

this specific gas station has stuck with me solely for being close to my work

and it being the first one i went to with thr e46 (because of my above statement)

[kind osprey]

The four lights are iconic

I can't imagine that gen without it

[real trench]

I want it so bad

[silent oak]

I found a Porsche 88’ 928 for sale in Texas..

[kind osprey]

This will probably go for a lot

[real trench]

6 hours left and it's at $13,750

[kind osprey]

My guess will be $18k

[hazy ledge]

wow cars and stuff amirite

[kind osprey]

Ikr

[silent oak]

Vroom toys

[real trench]

Sold for 19,630

[lone geyser]

We on that broken project arc now

The jack stands have come out, its over

[dire shard]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a68004587/tom-matano-mazda-miata-obituary/

[silent oak]

F

[static gale]

F

[silent oak]

I might not like the Miata but F

[dire shard]

what

[tropic timber]

what

[dire shard]

😒

[tropic timber]

[lone geyser]

isnt Bob Hall the father of miatas?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Hall_(American_motoring_journalist)#:~:text=Hall is considered to be,that brought it to production.

[dire shard]

says in that wiki

bob hall came up with the idea, but he wasn't responsible with the engineering or design

matano designed the car

"father" is a weird title that i've never taken note of, so who knows

i mean technically, both..

[slate harness]

oh no, another excuse (as good as all the other ones) for NA prices to go up more.

getting real tired of seeing NAs and NBs getting listed for $10k that have clearly had zero maintenance or love beyond just barely enough to keep it kind-of going down the road. Doubly tired of the dipshits that pay that kind of money for a junk-ass car that gives people the idea their shitbox is worth that much.

Whats funny is when you drive that NA into the ditch your insurance company is going to offer to a value that starts with the number "1" and only has 3 digits behind it because that shits hulled out.

[steady cove]

Just dont buy one

Its not that hard

[pseudo charm]

NA Miatas lame as hell

Every single NA Miata owner also acts the exact same

It’s like they churn them out of a factory like terminators

[steady cove]

i think they are cute

but i wouldnt own one

i saw a red one the other day

middle aged men with it

[silent oak]

They act all special but realize they are the same as each other

[pseudo charm]

Out of the possibly near 100 NA Miatas I’ve seen in my life I’ve only seen 1 that was actually cool

And it was a turbo’d K swap

Think the guy was pushing like near 400 hp if not more

[silent oak]

The weight balance lmao

[pseudo charm]

Yeah it was an absolute rocket

I’m sure it was scary as hell to drive

[silent oak]

Cars that are MADE to be fast are not nice

But cars designed to be fast are nice

Yeah your mista is fast but not comfortable

[pseudo charm]

Yeah usually 300-350 hp is plenty enough for smaller cars like that

250-350

Still very driveable and really fun

[silent oak]

If I want a fast car I’m no modding a cheapo tuner car

I’m saving myself the .357

[pseudo charm]

Building up a cheap tuner can be fun for sure but yeah you definitely need to keep it below like 600-700 hp at most to really have a proper blast with them

[silent oak]

Until you blow the motor with the extra HP

[pseudo charm]

It obviously depends where you live too but anything past those HP numbers is usually just unusable for public roads

[silent oak]

to be Fair I’d rather buy an old corvette or viper if I want something fast

[pseudo charm]

I fw corvettes yeah

[silent oak]

Atleast DESIGNED for speed not built up for high hp numbers

[pseudo charm]

Yeah that’s fair

[silent oak]

I want a 5th gen viper

[pseudo charm]

5th Gen Vipers are super cool

[silent oak]

I’d rather that over a Supra- one reason the community around supras are BAD

[pseudo charm]

I’m honestly not a huge fan of older Vipers looks wise

But the 5th Gen is like perfect

[silent oak]

It looks like a car that will kill you

And it will

[pseudo charm]

Yeah it definitely will

[pseudo charm]

They’re also just heavily overpriced too

Both Mk4 and Mk5s

[silent oak]

And the fan boys of the mk4 piss me off

[pseudo charm]

A lot of the JDM titans are kinda just overhyped in general

[silent oak]

I just want a jdm Toyota century ..

[pseudo charm]

They’re great cars and have great Motorsport history as well but people don’t view them as that

They just see Skyline or Supra and think “that thing must have 1000 horsepower and can gap a Bugatti”

[silent oak]

Then their motor blows half way into the race

[pseudo charm]

Even though they’re real specialty is actually being really quick on the track for their size

[pseudo charm]

Trying to shove all that boost on a stock motor 🙁

[silent oak]

Fucking twin turbo super charger too

[pseudo charm]

Twin charged Supra would be insane

[silent oak]

Weight balance it, AWD

[pseudo charm]

There was this one old guy with a Supra that I would pass by on the way to work for about a year

Haven’t seen him in a while but his Supra was pretty much bone stock

Stock wheels, stock ride height, etc

Shit was a gem

[silent oak]

Exhooost?

Straight cut gears?

[pseudo charm]

Nah it had nothing done to it

At least from the outside

Idk maybe he was packing a sleeper build but it looked like it came straight out of the 90s

[silent oak]

Imagine a v10 c8 corvette

Full Ferrari

[dire shard]

but ferrari doesn't do a v10

[dire shard]

the only people who can afford a miata

(fuuuuuuuuuuuck this world)

[lone geyser]

most horsepower on any modern production car is fairly unusable for public roads

[lone geyser]

Ferraris most common use engine is a v8
its already full wannabe ferrari

[pseudo charm]

Where I live, there’s enough open and straight roads where you can pretty comfortably get on the throttle in a 600-700 hp car.

[lone geyser]

i suppose the area matters quite a bit yeah

[pseudo charm]

But yeah once you start hitting 900-1000+ hp there’s pretty much nowhere where you can even remotely step on the gas

[acoustic frigate]

Ferrari

[lone geyser]

im in one of the most populated U.S cities so my buddies 80 hp civic is comperable to my old 500hp integra when it comes to getting blocked in by traffic

[pseudo charm]

And if you live in the city then anything past 300 hp is useless 🙁

450 hp just to sit in traffic for 2 hours

[lone geyser]

literally why i stopped driving my 350z

almost the entire reason i bought an e46

aside from needing a new project

[pseudo charm]

One of my cousins moved into the city for about a year for his new job and he drove a 2018 Mustang GT

He told me he was going insane

[lone geyser]

anything remotely performance oriented is infuriating in the city

[swift halo]

hi i am new

[lone geyser]

even again like my e46, it only has 170 horsepower but it was literally made to rip through canyon roads at 140

[pseudo charm]

Also doesn’t help that like 1 in every 4 cars is a massive full sized SUV being driven by a single person with no passengers

[lone geyser]

the other 3 cars are midsize pickup trucks

[pseudo charm]

Yep pretty much

[lone geyser]

esp in america

2 in every 4 cars is either a ram 1500 or an f150

[pseudo charm]

Like ma’am you have 1 child that you already sent to school. You do not need to be driving a Chevy Suburban to your office job at 8 in the morning

[lone geyser]

"i demanded we get a family car but a simple wagon was too small"

like ma'am idk as a single 21 year old i could have an entire family and all my tools + a full set of tires in my old 07 outback

[pseudo charm]

Wagon would’ve also been a better financial decision but they settled for 1250/month at 15% apr for 5 years

But at least they got that fancy Suburban

[lone geyser]

i cant think of anything id personally use an suv for and this is coming from someone who has one but its fairly small

[acoustic frigate]

Toyota prius

[lone geyser]

but like a full suze suv like a suburban or an escalade is completely exsessive to me

id either just get another wagon or bridge the gap and buy another pickup truck

a 1st gen nissam stagea would be such a nice wagon to add to my lil car collection ngl

maybe a toyota mark 2 wagon

[dire shard]

put ATs on it and hit a trail for shits and giggles

even fwd computer-controlled awd can go a lil teeny bit off the beaten path

beats scraping the bottom of your golf on gravel for 5km on the way to a lake

[lone geyser]

slap one of these fatass 37's on it

also i have a 92 sierra pickup for hitting the trail for shits and giggles

thats about all its good for till i get the slightest bit of air and the frame snaps

[fleet owl]

The part finally arrived

Got damn the idle is so much better

[static gale]

I'd sure hope so, lol

[fleet owl]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was still rough afterwards tbh, cars can be confusing

[lone geyser]

Aye!

At least your stuff was easy

Got my first start on this thing in a solid while

[silent oak]

Hey Kate? Question if I looking in the market for a bmw.. cheap but running what gen

[jagged sentinel]

Does that combo even exist

[lone geyser]

Budget? Series preference? AwD rwd? Cylinder preference?

[lone geyser]

Cheap and running bmw? My e46 was $2000

[silent oak]

AWD Midwest and v8 preferable but open to i6

[jagged sentinel]

This implies it wasn't running for a solid while

[lone geyser]

It ran when i bought it

Then it didnt

[jagged sentinel]

[lone geyser]

Idk if these came with xdrive but the e39 440i has a 4.4l v8

Fairly cheap

[jagged sentinel]

Don't BMW V8s not have a good reputation

[silent oak]

V8 make me go crazy

[lone geyser]

Bmw anything that isnt an i6

[jagged sentinel]

I figured

[silent oak]

What’s a good strong i6 bmw that cool

And coupe

[jagged sentinel]

I6s are BMW's bread and butter

[silent oak]

Can I cook bread on butter over a bmw i6?

[jagged sentinel]

Not one that's working properly

[lone geyser]

E46 330ci has like 200ish horsepower 2 dolrs and an i6

Or you could step up to the bmw i wanted to buy

[silent oak]

E46 has AWD?

[lone geyser]

E92 335i has a twin turbo i6 that’s heavily moddable, has a trim thats an AWD coupe

[silent oak]

OOH

average price?

[lone geyser]

Yeah but i dont think the awd were coupes on the e46 gen

[silent oak]

I don’t need 4 seats cuz I’m single..

[lone geyser]

I think they were exclusively sedans because it predates the XDrive badge

[lone geyser]

Pull them out and sell them

[jagged sentinel]

Insurance won't like you for that

[silent oak]

Roll cage? Weld rear door ?

[lone geyser]

I have mine still in as a single adult, i use em for tool storage

[jagged sentinel]

Why weld the rear door shut

[lone geyser]

Id keep the rear doors unwelded

[jagged sentinel]

There's no good reason not to keep the seats in if you plan to use it for anything other than just track use

[silent oak]

Duke boys

[lone geyser]

They are fawkin heavy

[jagged sentinel]

Right and German cars are known for their simplicity and low weight

[lone geyser]

I wanna pull mine out but im
Also doing weight reduction stuff

[silent oak]

Look.. I’m single.. no chance for a guy or girl.. I don’t need 4 seats to remind me of my loneliness

[jagged sentinel]

Put stuff on top of them then

[silent oak]

2 is all I need

[lone geyser]

Youd be kinda surprised about the low weight thing in some aspects

The e46 ZHP cloth seats are lighter than the m3 seats 💀

By like 50 lbs

[silent oak]

Can I get sparco seats replaced?

I like those

[lone geyser]

Yeah? Just pull the oem rails and sort out fitting

[jagged sentinel]

Insurance may make you pay more because it may count as modifying a safety component of the vehicle

[lone geyser]

They probably make sparcos for most of not all bmw’s

[silent oak]

Good I want one

[lone geyser]

The general sizes is the chassis doesnt really change

Also iirc most bmw coupes still have back seats

They are just significantly less useable

[jagged sentinel]

911s still have back seats

It's because of insurance

[lone geyser]

So do non vert 350zs

[silent oak]

So how much will a sparco seat set me back

[jagged sentinel]

It costs less to insure a car that has second row seating

[silent oak]

If I sell my rear seats on a 4 seater

[lone geyser]

Probably a grand at least

[silent oak]

“Seats” an infant can fit in one but not a human

[jagged sentinel]

I never said they were effective as seating

[lone geyser]

Im not even sure what the oem leather bench is worth

[jagged sentinel]

Probably not much for a 15 y/o car

[silent oak]

Legally they are seats but you know no sane human can sit in over for more then 10 minutes

[lone geyser]

22 y/o car

[jagged sentinel]

Point still stands

I was talking about an E92

[lone geyser]

Would depend on the leather color

Some of the uglier seats were worth more

And then obviously condition

[silent oak]

Can’t even get laid in the back of one sadge

[lone geyser]

Not with that attitude

[jagged sentinel]

[silent oak]

Not to say.. but I’ve kissed in a hellcat before

That’s the most action I got in a hellcat

[jagged sentinel]

Honestly if you need to sell the rear seats to buy new front seats you don't need then I think you shouldn't do that

[silent oak]

Sparco seat tho

[lone geyser]

I agree with will on this one

[jagged sentinel]

You should probably focus on getting the car working right before allat

[silent oak]

I’m looking for a fun car too

Can I twin charge a 335i?

[lone geyser]

Im only planning on dumping my rear seats because its cheaper to make it lighter than it is to add power

[lone geyser]

Wouldn’t recommend at all

[jagged sentinel]

Getting it running right NA first

[silent oak]

Group b my way on the road lmao

[lone geyser]

Factory twin turbo

[jagged sentinel]

Or just put a turbo, twincharging is a lot of trouble for not a lot of gain

[lone geyser]

Swap it to a single turbo and call it a day

[jagged sentinel]

Or that

[silent oak]

The 335i comes with twin turbo

[jagged sentinel]

Then don't bother twincharging it

[lone geyser]

The n55 is a really finicky engine when it comes to boost

[jagged sentinel]

Modern turbos negate the need for superchargers anyway

[lone geyser]

The b58 does it better but its expensive

[silent oak]

The hellcat fan in me wants to

[jagged sentinel]

It isn't like the 1980s where turbo cars were useless until 5000 RPM when the turbo was spooled up

[silent oak]

Right

Turbo lag

[jagged sentinel]

And also the fact that boost in some turbo cars wasn't always built/delivered smoothly and sometimes hit you all at once like the 911s turbos of old were known to do

[lone geyser]

You could probably get a supercharger for an n55 but youd most likely be better off to delete the turbos rather than try and run both

[silent oak]

Im in the Midwest soo will? Would a supacharga be good?

[jagged sentinel]

Twincharging would also make your intake side a fucking rats nest

[lone geyser]

those n55s are good for making power, not keeping it

[silent oak]

I know your weather is near same as mine

[jagged sentinel]

It's not a good idea to change an engine's forced induction type if it comes from the factory with forced induction

If it came turbod, stick with turbos

[lone geyser]

Lotta things that can go wrong

[silent oak]

Like my life

[lone geyser]

Trying to find an n55 that would have good enough compression to even think about doing something like that would probably be like winning the lottery to begin with

At least for an e92

Or e90

[jagged sentinel]

N55s get beat to hell a lot

[silent oak]

Of course I’m stupid asf to want a beat up bmw

[lone geyser]

Might be able to find an f10 525i with a decent one since those came way later

[jagged sentinel]

What's the super common failure point they have? Is it the spark plugs?

[lone geyser]

For all bmw i6’s its ignition coils

[jagged sentinel]

Ah

[lone geyser]

Mine was no different

Super common to fond someone dumping one for running like shit

Drop $100 on some decent cools and you’re usually pretty good for a start

[jagged sentinel]

Don't they also really not like using any coil not from BMW themselves

[lone geyser]

Bosch makes all the bmw electronics

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah whoever it was iont remember

[lone geyser]

But yeah they seem to come back up as the best replacement parts for when the oem ones finally go

[silent oak]

Hey Ty Kate for the bmw course

[lone geyser]

Np

[silent oak]

I’ll see if I can find one in CA

[lone geyser]

Bit of advice for searching though

[silent oak]

I don’t mind driving to ca for a bmw

[lone geyser]

Expect a laundry list of shit that needs to be done

[silent oak]

I got a gal pal who I can stay with

[lone geyser]

They are fairly easy cars if you get an i6 but they will always have issues

Mainly oil
Leaks

[jagged sentinel]

There is a reason German cars lose resale value sharply after like 5 years or so

[lone geyser]

Ive had my e46 for months and im still tracking leaks

[jagged sentinel]

Let alone a decade or more

[lone geyser]

After like 60k miles they take a massive hit and then after like
15 years or so they seem to sit around 10k

For like showroom quality non m cars

[jagged sentinel]

American cars stay (relatively) cheap to fix because they were built cheap: German don't have that luxury

[silent oak]

How much is an old bmw maintenance

[lone geyser]

heh

Heh

[silent oak]

Do tell please never owned

[lone geyser]

I just spent $600 on transmission fluid

[jagged sentinel]

Kate is the one to ask

Not me

[silent oak]

Oki the American

[jagged sentinel]

She's the one who owns a BMW here

[silent oak]

Sadge :3

[lone geyser]

Depends on the maintenance

[silent oak]

Home girl here wants to be fucked by the money

[lone geyser]

Are you capable of doing it yourself or do you plan to shop
It?

[jagged sentinel]

Your 5.7 is more than capable of that

Just wait until you get hemi tick

[silent oak]

My 5.7 fucks me raw

[lone geyser]

With bmw’s the ability to fix shit yourself will save THOUSAnds

[silent oak]

Haven’t got that yet

YET

[jagged sentinel]

True of most modern cars nowadays

If you can get the parts

[dire shard]

🐶

[jagged sentinel]

Shit

Shut

[silent oak]

MIJU

[jagged sentinel]

FUCK

[lone geyser]

Most modern cars dont have gatekept software though so you get an easy mode

[dire shard]

💩

[jagged sentinel]

[silent oak]

miju hiii

[dire shard]

hello

[lone geyser]

bmw having locked ecu’s
For everything isnt fun

[silent oak]

I’m getting a bad financial thought of buying an old BMW

[dire shard]

same

[lone geyser]

J had to buy an adapter, software license and a tablet for diagnosing my transmission and lockout system

[jagged sentinel]

I know people at Ford so even if my Ford did have gate kept software I think I'd be able to finagle a Ford tech scanner into my hands

[lone geyser]

The alternative was bmw charging me $1400 for a trans scan

[dire shard]

i hate that

[lone geyser]

First thing i learned when i bought mine was to never take it to bmw

[jagged sentinel]

My sister drives a 2023 maverick
A guy lightly backed into her at a stop light, no visible damage
Knocked out multiple sensors and the front-facing collision detection camera
700$ repair

[dire shard]

normal cars: oil changed? let's check the stick :)) ezpz
porsche: oil changed? CONNECT THE OBD2 WE HAVE TO TELL THE CAR IT'S CHANGED

[lone geyser]

Okay well actually the first thing i learned was that there was a misfire on cylinder 1 2 and 5

[jagged sentinel]

I rear-ended someone on the highway a few months back, probably at a higher speed difference than her, and I had no permanent damage at all though

Funny how that works

[silent oak]

Don’t clip me girl

[lone geyser]

Sealed transmission go reeeee

[jagged sentinel]

My collision detection system saved me good though, I probably would have gotten an airbag event were it not for that

[silent oak]

Anyway see ya later chat

[lone geyser]

I saw someone install a dipstick on their e46 to bypass needing to open it to check

[dire shard]

bye

[static gale]

cya

[lone geyser]

Mad theres no documentation on it

[jagged sentinel]

Was he murdered by big BMW for that

[dire shard]

don't even get a dipstick iun want a bmw anymore

pay more for more pain in the ass

[lone geyser]

Maybe, his last post was in 2007

On the forum

Probably why theres no documentation on it 🤣

[jagged sentinel]

My car still has a dipstick

Thank you Ford for being cheap

[static gale]

the driv

[jagged sentinel]

Engine bay still a rats nest tho

[static gale]

oh yeah, cheap ford amirite haha

[dire shard]

my car should have two dipsticks
one in the engine and one in the driver seat

[jagged sentinel]

What's the one in the driver's seat for

[dire shard]

driving

[jagged sentinel]

[lone geyser]

some convo on making one

[jagged sentinel]

They're so cheap that my car has gone in for recalls like 3 separate times and there's still recalls pending parts

They even gave me a free Yeti the first time around

[shut viper]

Anyone on ps4-5

[jagged sentinel]

There's one that's pending where my backup camera would just stop working completely

[lone geyser]

that seems very counter intuative for a backup camera

[jagged sentinel]

You don't say

The one they gave me a yeti for was that the side curtain airbags wouldn't reliably deploy in a crash

[lone geyser]

when my mom had a tucson it would show the media screen in reverse and the backup camera feed in drive 💀

[jagged sentinel]

Hyundai moment

[lone geyser]

real

she never fixed it either, nor did the dealer mention it at all in the times it went in for new engines

[jagged sentinel]

My cousin in law works on Hyundais and he cannot recommend staying away from them enough

The only reason they sell any is because they offer some pretty kick-ass warranties

[lone geyser]

i used to work on them and ive been very aggresively telling people to stay away from them

[jagged sentinel]

My dad's truck came with a warranty that Hyundai would have offered

[lone geyser]

what 160k miles + free piston ring replacement?

[jagged sentinel]

It is a lifetime drivetrain warranty that dictated that any repair that didn't eclipse the value of the vehicle would be covered

[lone geyser]

dayum

[jagged sentinel]

They stopped offering it the year after the year he bought it and it's so costly (for them) that some dealerships won't honor it lol

Fortunately for Chrysler, the engine and transmission combo that he ended up picking is among the most reliable combos Chrysler has ever put in a car

Normally I'm not a V6 person but I will Stan the Pentastar V6 until the end of time and you can't go wrong with a ZF8 transmission

[jagged sentinel]

There was an electrical issue a few months back

400$ repair he paid like 30 bucks for

[jagged sentinel]

It's at over 200k I think now

[slate harness]

I had a 2001 Santa Fe. Abused the piss out of it for 280k miles. Transmission pump failed violently due to crank walk. Other than the dealership causing it to jump time once (no damage) and an alternator that failed due to being completely packed with mud, it gave me no trouble.

Every Hyundai I've been involved with since = turdtastic

[jagged sentinel]

Their quality control is what's so bad about them

[slate harness]

even the 03 Santa Fe my mom picked up with the exact same drivetrain spec. 4 of 6 rod bearings on that one failed at 149k. Was just bad bearings because all I did was smooth the crank, throw on some King bearings I picked up cheap off ebay, reassembled the rods with ARP bolts because they were cheaper than the dealership wanted for factory shit and it was still alive at 230k AFAIK (got sold at about 200k to a facebook friend)

[jagged sentinel]

One Hyundai is so hard to kill you could send it through the sun and it would still crank, the next one would weld its own transmission together if you breathed on the throttle pedal too hard

It's incredible how much of a difference two identical cars could have

[slate harness]

I ran through a 2012 Rio and a 2014 Forte pretty quickly. The Forte fully reinforced me not returning to buy another car from Hyundai/Kia. Got a 2017 Camry and its been nothing but reliable for ~160k miles.

most boring ass car ever and has excessive interior rattles, but its reliable

[lone geyser]

Not sure what your market is but the NA market ones were solid up till 2011

[slate harness]

I'm in the US. I honestly didn't like how any of the santa fes I drove after my 01 handled. The rear suspension was entirely different in the 03 and it handled like ass. I was around a couple people that had major early issues with their Hyundai 3.3Ls in other models, so I've avoided those like the plague.

Grab the e-brake in the 01 and it did exactly what it should do. Grab the e-brake in the 03 and it went straight for trying to flip. Same tires and brakes, just different control arms and the body-side structure they attached to.

I will admit the 03 was much quieter from the rear going down the highway. The 03 setup had a lot more rubber + aluminum control arms in the back.

[sage roost]

I'm a firm believer that it's only the US built Kia's and Hyundais that have problems

They're considered pretty reliable everywhere else

[dire shard]

i feel like we've had this conversation before

#transportation message

[sage roost]

true and real

[fleet owl]

So what I'm hearing is that being racist can save you money

[jagged sentinel]

Probably true tbh

[lone geyser]

FFFFF

[static gale]

weight reduction

[silent oak]

The 70s is calling

[lone geyser]

This weight costs me a lot of money

[silent oak]

Weight per dollar

[lone geyser]

Pffffff

Honestly with how built up the reinforcement plate was i probably pulled off a solid 3 pounds of oil

Good $200 - $300 here

If not more

[static gale]

spray some degreaser on it first (if you haven't already cleaned it all off by now)

[slate harness]

Mostly, but mine were all K VINs, but its not like I got terrible performance out of mine (well, the forte decided it wanted to consume its transmission at ~107k which was pretty bullshit)

[sage roost]

Our family owns a K vin Kia and it's been pretty bulletproof powertrain wise tbf

the problems we had really were minor inconveniences

Had to get the headlights and one of the turn signals replaced, the brake lights were stuck on once, the motor for one of the windows failed (while it was closed thankfully) and had the AC compressor replaced as well

in about 160k kilometers that's not bad I think

[slate harness]

that's quite reasonable

My biggest 'factual' reason for trading the Forte for the Toyota was too many direct injection horror stories. The 2.5L I4 in the Camry is port injected.

[dire shard]

brake cleaner go brrr

[lone geyser]

its not all cleaned off cuz i ran outta degreaser

[lone geyser]

i dont think brake kleen would have done this job tbh

that ammount of sludge probably would have come back as 7/32nds on my tread gauge

[lone geyser]

thats just an actual fact

all the NA market ones are assembled in texas which that specific plant has had a quality control issue for ages

[static gale]

[lone geyser]

its not going back on the car anytime soon either so im not worried aout it

[static gale]

[lone geyser]

im gonna end up buying another car before i fix this one

[silent oak]

Average home mechanic

[icy olive]

Yall I lowkey want this as a second car lmao
Here's also my car i already drive.

[kind osprey]

If I were to get a second car I'd want it to be different than the first one in some way

Since I have limited space to store or work on stuff

[lone geyser]

Average normal mechanic

Need me a proper daily

Honestly would not wanna get caught in the snow in the e46 of i end up going literally anywhere

[jagged sentinel]

https://youtu.be/6Vs2tdR-9C8?si=HDsmDs2xCp9JZeKi

[oblique loom]

i got an 04 towncar

[lone geyser]

Okay?

And?

[oblique loom]

true i was just trying to level up sorry

[lone geyser]

😆

[silent oak]

Hey Kate!!!

[slate harness]

I have an 07 Grand Marquis LX. You've leveled up on me.

[lone geyser]

hallo

[silent oak]

Hello!! I heard Cali wants to tax miles now..

[lone geyser]

wouldnt surprise me if they did

government wants money

i say government go get jobs instead of taking mine

[silent oak]

If my state did that, everyone finds their odometer and disconnects it

[lone geyser]

its easier than that

cut the cords to the vehicle speed sensor in the engine bay

you wont be able to see your speed but the mileage wont roll either

you use the rpm gauge and gear to measure speed

[silent oak]

Mfw the officer says “how fast were you going”

[lone geyser]

officer i was going 5000rpm in 3rd gear

idk how fast that is the car that i had to do that with didnt have third

it had 1st, second, and 4th

[silent oak]

Man busted gear box lmao

[lone geyser]

it was an old honda automatic

those things were made of paper

i fixed a window on my e46 today

only one that doesnt work properly now is the driver window

[silent oak]

Usual Honda stuff

[lone geyser]

e46

thats the bmw lmao

[silent oak]

Can I stuff tannerite in an engine

And blow it sky high

[lone geyser]

idk probably

[silent oak]

I’d love to do it to a civic

Or a Nissan juke

[lone geyser]

lowkey

[silent oak]

Or a quashqui

[lone geyser]

honda D16 engine

slide a stick of dynamite down the oil fill hole

cuz the D series engines suck

i hate them so much

[silent oak]

Nissan jukes deserve it

They are abominations of machines

[lone geyser]

i agree honestly

one of my buddies has one and even drifting it in the snow it still looks stupid as hell

@silent oak wanna see another abomination? look up the bmw e46 compact

my car but bri'ish and ugly as shet

[silent oak]

Yess!

It looks like it was hit in the head

With a car crusher

[lone geyser]

and the rear looks kinda like a 2003 ford focus

i hate that if it was imported to the U.S someone would unitonically buy it

and probably pay a lot for it

[silent oak]

Cut their brake lines

[lone geyser]

Preach sista!

[silent oak]

The car shouldn’t be here, we have civics to ruin

[hearty hornet]

Any Audi fans with knowledge here

I got some problems with the car I tried everything even read it with computer can’t find the problem but car is shaking when stationair but when riding it smooth

Can it be mechatronica?

[lone geyser]

pretty sure they were all 4 cylinders and or diesels too

so possibly a german equivelent to a civic

[silent oak]

4 cylinder boring~

[lone geyser]

half agree

although i personally prefer i6's

i keep spending all this money on mine

just dropped $300 on 2 rear main seals and all 4 o2 sensors

i know at least 2 of em are bad but im just gonna do all 4

[silent oak]

I like v6s v8s

[ripe storm]

Yo

Any one here

[silent oak]

Tired chat Time

[nocturne pumice]

Where r u from

[azure flint]

My new car 😄 is300h from 2016, F sport executive edition

[sage roost]

funny how the interior BARELY changed from this

All they added was probably the tablet

[dire shard]

elite interior anyways

ain't broke don't fix

don't commit s650 tablet cluster

[static gale]

That's sweet dude, enjoy!

[lone geyser]

i like v6's and v8's too, just got the preference for inline sixers

working on my 350z and my e46 are 2 different worlds

[lone geyser]

commit retrofit and add a tablet to an old car

its not bound to the car but it is for the car 😂

[fleet owl]

My wallet has a preference for inline 4s

[dire shard]

my wallet has a preference for bicycles

[fleet owl]

[static gale]

my wallet has a preference for walking

[lone geyser]

buying another one of those soon

my i6 gets better gas mileage than my mom's i4

[silent oak]

My wallet has a preference to yapping

[onyx rivet]

quite true

[pseudo charm]

Congrats man

[icy olive]

Fair enough

[fleet owl]

This gotta be a gta reference

[lone geyser]

or someone who really likes flexing that they bought a worse r35

[naive thorn]

[silent oak]

Hiya car chatto

[slate harness]

My 4.6L V8 panther gets within 2 mpg of my 2.5L I4 Camry travelling the same highway/speed.

[lone geyser]

crazy

[onyx rivet]

a worse r35
wharr?

[lone geyser]

i used to work as a tech for kia, the stinger GT checks every box of being a wannabe r35 aside from the fact that unlike the nissan the stinger an overpriced POS

[slate harness]

Everything I've heard about the stinger is bad except for the fact its actually badass.

I know its basically the new trailer trash douche canoe here... Every mf with a Kia budget, Charger credit rating and BMW eyes seems to end up with one.

[slate harness]

Crazier than that - GF's old 01 Seville with the northstar and a bad torque converter (no lockup) would get 3 mpg better than that.

northstar is magical though

[onyx rivet]

maybe?

three litre something v6 twin-turbo, AWD, four wheels, a steering wheel, and windows are all i can gather as similarities

[lone geyser]

its cool on paper, if you can shovel out the extra 15k or so for a used 2010 r35 its not a terrible alt

but the AWD q50 3.0t is still a better cheaper choice

[lone geyser]

bad torque converters ❤️

gear slipping my beloved

ptsd from my e46 and my TC isnt even bad

[slate harness]

Wow, only 49k R35s built in total

[lone geyser]

*~48k

over 18 years

[slate harness]

I see more Cybertrucks than I do R35s

hell, I've seen more Cybertrucks this year than I've seen R35s in my life...

ahh only ~15k of them came to the US/Canada

Nissan should have made 10x more, priced them around 50-60% of what they were, and actually cornered a market

instead they concentrated on CVTs in shitboxes and 447 credit scores.

and CEOs in violin cases

... and Renault

[kind osprey]

Cybertrucks and gtrs

What an odd comparison lol

[dire shard]

i'm not sure that's a popular opinion, the stinger is really popular but nobody gives infiniti a damn anymore
granted, you worked on the things, your experience and point of view is different, but from the perspective of people who don't need to service the things, the stinger offers a lot more out of the box than the q50 does and is also not a bloody old nissan with bloody old nissan problems

i'm also not sure why we're cross-shopping a brand-halo sports coupe with a sedan liftback

objectively, they're two different categories that don't make sense to compare
a v6tt and awd don't make these two cars the same cars, not from a purpose, tuning, or maintenance frequency and cost standpoint

[quaint oar]

if GTA6 has cybertrucks they need to catch fire in the car wash

[dire shard]

like, we're looking at a car that is analogous to a downmarket s7 in terms of body style and saying, "damn, you cheaped out on an amg gt 63" - the two cars are inherently uncomparable

[lone geyser]

yet half of instagram still compares hellcat challengers to rs7's

ones a good 4 door liftbackcar and the other is a 2 door shitbox

but mine is the bad comparrison

uhuh.

[dire shard]

instagram? not a particularly strong source of human intelligence, that...

you don't want to compare yourself to instagram, i never knew people could be that stupid until i got the damn thing

[pseudo charm]

Hellcat fans when you bring up power to weight: 😧

I assure you your 700 hp hellcat is not beating that 500 hp civic simply because 700 > 500

[kind osprey]

In a straight line a hellcat would dog a type r but once you hit some fun tight turns the last thing I would wanna be in is a modern Charger/Challenger

[static gale]

Same, unfortunately 😕 😪

[azure flint]

I never seen any Cybertruck (cuz i'm in Europe), and maybe ... 20+ R35
my neighbor has one, it helps 😄

the previous owner of my Z have a R35 today, but he blow the engine ( oil pump critical failure ... )

[kind osprey]

This one looks loved

Big ahh wang

[azure flint]

yep

[kind osprey]

For all the downforce going 30mph in traffic

[azure flint]

haha real, he don't go on racetrack with it ... but me yes 😈

[silent oak]

But highway missile

[pseudo charm]

R35s are like Unicorns where I’m at

I’ve only seen like 3 or 4 in the past 10 years probably

[azure flint]

A Friend have a Real R32 GTR with midnight purple paintjob

Japan import

Another one have a R33

[azure flint]

with a bug turbo tune, pink with googly eyes on it, and call it Peppa pig

[jagged sentinel]

Must have been pretty expensive to get an aftermarket midnight purple

[azure flint]

And a last friend have a R34 but not a R

[jagged sentinel]

[azure flint]

me and the boy, i have the black Z

[jagged sentinel]

[jagged sentinel]

The 350z bumper will always look a bit funny

[azure flint]

you dont like it ? 🙁

[jagged sentinel]

I mean the one with the long ass snout

[azure flint]

Ah, it's a 370 Nismo

[jagged sentinel]

The early 370z nismo has the same issue but it looks a little better

[jagged sentinel]

I meant to type nismo there, my bad king

Idk why I didn't

[fast edge]

i've never liked the nismo bodykits

as boring as it is, the regular 350z is the best of them

[azure flint]

Yep i'm not a big fan about the Nismo V3 body kit on 350

that long nose, not for me

but on 370 👀

one of my friends

(yeah i have a lot of JDM fan friends 😂 )

[silent oak]

I’ve never seen an r32 in the states- sadge

[jagged sentinel]

Only legal under show and display clause, not surprising

[silent oak]

I want one soo bad tho

I love the r32 front end

[jagged sentinel]

If you can pony up the money for one and be able to afford the insurance then go crazy ig

[silent oak]

Are they stupid expensive like the r34s

Or like hellcat money

[jagged sentinel]

Maybe?

If you want a GTR, probably yes

[silent oak]

How bout coupe gt?

[jagged sentinel]

Most regular insurance companies either wouldn't cover it or impose a higher fee since it was never localized for sale in the US

[silent oak]

The 4- door gts are pretty rare here in the us, but overseas they used to produce 4 door gts

[jagged sentinel]

They're all rare here

They never sold them here, they're all imported

[silent oak]

Coolest family car imo

[jagged sentinel]

It's a vaguely sporty NPC car

Just with the steering wheel on the wrong side

[silent oak]

Left hand drive haha took a while to get used to it

[jagged sentinel]

Japan is right hand drive while all of its neighbors are not

[silent oak]

Used to my dominant right hand on the wheel while my left on da shifter

[jagged sentinel]

Side note: why is Google AI unsure which side Korea drives on

[silent oak]

H u h

[jagged sentinel]

They drive on the right, just for clarification

Like the US

Actually I think it's because of the US and Russia that they drive on the right

[silent oak]

I know Japan has some 70s challengers

[jagged sentinel]

There is an audience of American car enthusiasts in Japan just like there are JDM enthusiasts in the US

[silent oak]

I’m one of em, always prefered my American stuff

[jagged sentinel]

I can't imagine it's very easy or cheap to own a big V8 muscle car in Japan given how insanely regulated emissions are in Japan

[silent oak]

It’s hard and expensive

[jagged sentinel]

I'm surprised the car scene in Japan is as big as it is, given the nightmarish conditions for owning modified/older cars Japan enforces