transportation

[quartz prawn]

also why are alpinas so cheap?? arent they like the maybach equivalents of bmw

i always see them on sale for like less than 60k

[kind osprey]

Eww what in the fuck am I looking at

[kind osprey]

Aplina isn't maybach level they are sorta like Brabus for bmw

But not as crazy

[kind osprey]

Luxury cars depreciate like a 500 pound rock thrown into the ocean

A 140,000 dollar audi in three years becomes like $76,000

[mental lion]

Wdym bro it’s sick

[kind osprey]

https://tenor.com/view/sorpresa-gif-17330134416128259640

We need more ev!
We need more front wheel drive crossovers that weight 5500 pounds!

[onyx rivet]

i know its a render but for goodness sake that is a blob

also what roots are they reffering to, i had a look at the Gulia's history on wiki and nothing resembles that

unless they referring to this honda crx

the Gulia also have a legacy model thats also a mini 300sl

[quartz prawn]

yeah it seems like alpinas depreciate quicker/easier though i might be wrong

[jagged sentinel]

German cars in general, higher-echelon German cars even more so

[mental lion]

Id say all european cars except for hypercars

[kind osprey]

Anything new and with a lot of features typically

Or an unreliable piece of shit that looks beautiful

Like any Maserati

[onyx rivet]

https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a62941741/ds-sm-tribute-production-maserati-v6/

yes please

originally unveiled to be an EV

now its rumoured that they are gonna shove Maserati's Nettuno V6 engine

its all coming full circle

https://www.motor1.com/news/741412/jaguar-updates-brand-badge-logo/
booo

while they did keep the leaping cat, the both the text logo and the roundel got

...turned into something that would be seen on handbags

[steady cove]

Car

I miss when alfa made those cool racing cars with V10s and fully caged chassis for no absolute reason

Good times

[sage roost]

why is jaguar still a thing

I think if all the jaguar SUVs got renamed to land rovers absolutely nothing would change

[onyx rivet]

honestly yeha

i suppose tata is trying to wring everything they can from brand name and heritage (which they erased themselves)

and i guess now they are trying to upmarket Jaguar by axing everything they used to do and starting from scratch

[floral lava]

where bus

[quartz prawn]

clarkson will be disappointed

[silk niche]

Cute bus

[night steeple]

JaGuAr
made for cocomelon viewers

[kind osprey]

More bus posting!

[night steeple]

i keep forgetting to take a pic of the bus that stops outside my condo lol

[mental lion]

The new branding is ass

Feels like a clothing brand

[onyx rivet]

https://vxtwitter.com/AutoBant/status/1804233722834657354

[onyx rivet]

https://fixupx.com/Jaguar/status/1859316052607271374
you know for a car company all about 'copying nothing' they seem to copying what looks to be an electric shaver

[sage roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/242392969213247500/1308817420567187529/image0.jpg?ex=673f52b5&is=673e0135&hm=a0554fc384933e8264968eb3760862d9944656860ca7a847d3f6077562feaa62&

[dire shard]

jaguar forgot what happened to tropicana in 2009

what a stupid ass rebranding

[modest minnow]

its gonna look horrific

[kind osprey]

Idk... if Jaguar is becoming an industrial air duct company I'd say they did an excellent job on this design

[rich anvil]

Finally got the Benz back from the repair shop six months later..

Tbh I’m really surprised they didn’t write it off considering how much damage there was

[blissful pivot]

I used to have one

It was a 2017 c class

Now I have a 2022 Audi Q5

[obtuse urchin]

Wealthyy

[jagged sentinel]

[blissful pivot]

Not really

It was only 34000$

Which is not that high for a nice car

[sage roost]

I have a slight feeling that this is way too overkill for a road car

Not too sure

[kind osprey]

I can't believe a 2 year old car depreciated that much considering with options they can easily get over $50k

Then mid $60k for the sq5

Pre owned Audi's seem to be the move if you don't mind long term reliability conflicts.

A 3 year old car looks brand new but it is 50-60% off

Like a 2024 rs6 avant is $135,000 but a 2022 is $75,000. The people who buy those cars new are donating to charity (the next owner) at that point

[mental lion]

Damn less than a hellcat

[kind osprey]

A faster more practical car for about the same price prior to scumbag dealer markups that v8 mopar cars typically have

The rs6 avant is great

I'd take a fully optioned amd specced out rs6 avant over a Lamborghini Urus anyday

[reef swallow]

whats a relatively fast car with great handling

[jagged sentinel]

Whats your budget

[reef swallow]

no budget

[loud spade]

You mean unlimited budget

[reef swallow]

same thing

js nothing thats removed

[jagged sentinel]

Why are you asking a discord server then, you should be looking at reviews

[reef swallow]

wdym

[jagged sentinel]

This is a non-gta channel

[reef swallow]

oh i thought it was gta transportation

[loud spade]

Idk what that means but, you should look at koenigsegg they’re pretty fast

[jagged sentinel]

When they work

[loud spade]

I can guarantee they work at least once

[jagged sentinel]

No, it's in the non-gta section of the server, also read the channel description for additional info

[reef swallow]

mb

[loud spade]

There is a gta channel for cars too

#gta-vehicles

[mental lion]

Exactly, the rs6 is basically a lighter urus

[mental lion]

Wdym

[jagged sentinel]

They have a bit of a reputation for not doing that

[mental lion]

You mean breaking down or kept in garages

[jagged sentinel]

Yes

[mental lion]

I guess you’re talking about the 2nd one

[jagged sentinel]

No, the first one

[mental lion]

Well they’re nor driven enough to breakdown

But you aint wrong

They go on fire

[jagged sentinel]

Hasn't stopped them from blowing gaskets or losing cylinder pressure on the road

Or other engine related failures

[mental lion]

Damn

Guess i aint getting a koenigsegg

[jagged sentinel]

You don't say

Oh, also

A while back they issued a do not drive order for all Jesko Attaks on the road because there was a danger that it would catch on fire and burn down to the frame

[mental lion]

Lmao

[mental lion]

Yea cos one of them actually went on fire

[jagged sentinel]

Yuh

Driver got out in time thankfully

[mental lion]

Yea must’ve felt terrible after since you wait years for it

It was also the best specced jesko

[blissful pivot]

Mileage

Mine has 55000 miles

[kind osprey]

55,000 in 2 years is crazy work that commute must been out of the guys state

[sage roost]

has to be an uber or something

[dire shard]

auto colour booth gyatt

[fleet owl]

Owner of the dominos I work at has this car

Really good looking and a perfect plate to match

[obtuse urchin]

God it does look amazing

Gorgeous even

[onyx rivet]

have to be honest, i still cant come around to the G87 M2
it looks like it could be a few differently BMWs in a 2 Series body

[mental lion]

Indeed , it doesnt look as good as this masterpiece

[dull folio]

nice Kia

[loud spade]

Meh

Not a fan

[kind osprey]

It is so goofy looking

Like a hamster staring at a fat person about to sit on it

[mental lion]

Lmao

[jagged sentinel]

[civic walrus]

hola causas soy peruano me estoy tomando mi cerro junto con la mama del combe con su leche

[hybrid charm]

!rule 1

[stuck owl]

GTA Online Discord - Rule 1

Refrain from using languages other than English.

Requested by

@blazing lichen

[steady trout]

I think pretty much a lot of pizza place owners have that car

[fleet owl]

that exact one?

[jagged sentinel]

Have proof? Seems oddly specific for such a big industry

[fathom oriole]

the rear is a declaration of war

[fleet owl]

Didn't look too bad to me at the time but looking on Google images yeah it's interesting. They should stick to what works

[willow barn]

weekdays that black live for

whats

line

[onyx rivet]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DC1r8nDoIWD/

bmw

Celebrating Three Decades of Need for Speed with BMW! 
 
The BMW M3 GTR is a certified icon within Need for Speed’s history. Its legendary livery matched with a roaring V8 made it the star car of ‘Most Wanted’ back in 2005. Well, guess what? It’s making a thunderous return in NFS Unbound Vol. 9: Lockdown. 
 
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https://www.speedhunters.com/2024/11/30-years-nfs-the-wanted-m3-gtr-now-real-life-bmw-race-car/

[quartz prawn]

thats neattt

on display as well

imagine the prices if they auctioned it

definitely crossing the sally carrera

[fleet owl]

I struggled with this sentence

the black line is for covering the nearby business names so I don't dox myself too much

[willow barn]

the inner machinations of my mind are an enginma

[jagged sentinel]

https://www.motortrend.com/news/new-toyota-celica-sports-car-akio-toyoda/?eml=organic:eml:brz:112724:toyotacelicaplans:article:webpush:anonymous:mt&utm_source=braze&utm_medium=webpush&utm_campaign=webpush

TL;DR a new Toyota Celica is confirmed to be happening

[sage roost]

overweight hybrid only coupe incoming

[dire shard]

hybrid ?

nah we're gonna see their ev competitor to the new prelude and sp 😎

[summer ingot]

😫

[jagged sentinel]

I don't like gintani exhausts

[sage roost]

I'm being rather optimistic

[jagged sentinel]

Lamborghinis Shouldn't sound like F1 cars

If I wanted a high-revving V12 I'd pick a Ferrari

Or a V12 that sounds high-revving at least

[sage roost]

https://newsroom.toyota.eu/new-high-performance-a90-final-edition-and-upgraded-gr-supra-lightweight-evo-announced/

beefed up bee fifty eight engine and more modifications

[mental lion]

They will stop making the mk5?

[sage roost]

yes

[mental lion]

Damn

One of my favorite sports cars

[kind osprey]

It still sounds very Lamborghini, all they do is just make it crisper clearer and a lot louder

[glossy cliff]

My LS6 X4 would walk

[summer ingot]

Nobody likes yu

[jagged sentinel]

Well that wasn't very nice

[dire shard]

gintani: i got you covered https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-6-pTL_NOI

[static gale]

I actually... wholeheartedly dislike it.

Especially those tunnel shots in the middle with the constant revs

[kind osprey]

Yea it probably sounds like a masterpiece in person but the recording audio is straight ass

[hybrid charm]

are those lpg or diesel

we have both

[twilit apex]

Interesting question. These are diesel from what I could tell.

[hybrid charm]

we have the same model and its lpg

I'm in one rn

[lyric arch]

@dire shard nunkero

@nova estuary @nova estuary ou o meu 'Bluetooth nao fuciona o que "eu" faço eu ja fiz de tudo e msm assim nao fuciona so fuciona so quando eu coloco o cabo

@jagged sentinel @jagged sentinel cachorro

[jagged sentinel]

[sage roost]

Someone help his Bluetooth

@lyric arch English only thanks

[sage roost]

Straight out of GTA online

[mental lion]

Wtf is this

[kind osprey]

"It's my crew color" ahh LS build

[vernal pine]

Oh dear

[obtuse urchin]

Like it

[dire shard]

gentlemen

it's over

[static gale]

when did they update the drag coefficients of boxes? because seeing EVs do that "design" now kinda irks me

[kind osprey]

I think a g wagon has a better percentage

[sage roost]

If the cybertruck and a Rolls Royce had a kid

[molten cradle]

Am I allowed to send pictures from gt7 here?

[still forge]

Lfg heists

[sage roost]

#other-games

[sage roost]

use your LFG channels

[still forge]

👍

[molten cradle]

🙏🏼 I was just asking because it is just pictures of cars

[sage roost]

Unfortunately still counts as a game

[onyx rivet]

fortunately that is a concept
unfortunately that is a concept

[mental lion]

It’s the best looking car i have ever seen

[kind osprey]

I can't choose between this or the beautiful cybertruck, it's a close call!

[mental lion]

Actually, the cybertruck looks a bit better

It’s a personal preference at the end of the day

[kind osprey]

But at the end of the day, they both look like dogshit, and all that matters is the journey to bankruptcy

[mental lion]

Wrong

They’re the greatest thing in the automotive world since the holy trinity in 2013

[dire shard]

this opinion is so peak

[mental lion]

And anyone who disagree clearly likes dino powered cars

[vernal pine]

I prefer muscle cars so I'm good

[dire shard]

dino powered car lovers please stand up

[night steeple]

I'll just wait for the production model jaGUar and see how close they can make it to the concept

[jagged sentinel]

Something something pedestrian safety

[jagged sentinel]

🗣️🔥💯

[onyx rivet]

the safety towards the pedestrian:

actually seeing as that jaguar concept has a bonnet the size of two king size beds put together, the least the driver could do if they hit someone is to drive them all the way to the nearest hospital with the victim lying nice and comfy on the hood

[kind osprey]

But how else will I drop off my only kid, get groceries, and pick up my my starbucks!

I need an 8 seater suv the size of a utility vehicle 😫

[onyx rivet]

well good news because jaGUar is offering the Type00 as a eight seater SUV waste-of-space vehicle

also electric!

[night steeple]

tonight on whats wrong with the fiesta, flooded spare wheel well, they have 2 drain holes, I feel like they know it'll flood eventually

[static gale]

Ooh! Money! 🤑

[dire shard]

the easy part is getting the water out

they thought of that, i think most spare tire wells have drains

the hard part is cleaning the carpet and then making sure mold doesn't grow

and then the hardest part after that is looking for why it flooded

[static gale]

that last point is what I was thinking of

[lone geyser]

still safer than than the average lifted truck 💀

[gusty roost]

Reasons i love the Old Nissan Sentra

This shit is Clean af…

Just some Rims, a regular dark paint, and you can fuck all day and night

But even Stock, is gorgeous

[lone geyser]

Spanish Taxi!

Nissan Tsuru!

[sage roost]

much better than the current piece of shit Sentra

[gusty roost]

Agree, it looks like that weird Leaf concept

I like the Leaf more tho

[gusty roost]

I swear idk why MX called that "Tsuru"

[sage roost]

It's also unreliable

has the infamous "Shatco" CVT

[gusty roost]

What does that mean?

[gusty roost]

I find that actually good

I personally like to think it means something like "You had the money to buy a Safer Car, and You chose this, then it's your problem whatever you do with this"

[sage roost]

the CVT "continuously variable transmission" in the Nissans during the 2010 is known to be one of the most unreliable transmissions ever

[gusty roost]

Fr, if i could, i would buy one and reinforce it with a Roll Cage from Inside

A very tough one

Not thick, but tough

[sage roost]

in fact my dad's company car is a Sentra and he had to go through SEVEN different transmissions

And 3 engines

[gusty roost]

DAMN, XD

[gusty roost]

Yeah, definitely is the Best Car for Customizers

[sage roost]

The 2010s one isn't tho

[gusty roost]

Is like having a Canvas with a Very Horrible Paint on it, but is your job to find a Sense to that Paint and restore it/make it better

[sage roost]

Like who would look at this and say "damn it would look really good on lowered springs and TE37s"

[gusty roost]

They just made it higher, fattier and double the Grill Size

[gusty roost]

Fr, that's ugly

[lone geyser]

The spanish using japanese as a nickname do be kinda funny

if it was region accurate the spanish version would actually be "Nissan grúa"

[gusty roost]

Reminds me the Lancia meme

I can't name it or i will be banned

But actually in my country, that word meaning is different than the other word, if you know what I'm talking about

But hey, the Mitsubishi Fapper exists,

[lone geyser]

wait what-

oh

are you refering to the pajero?

[gusty roost]

Yessir

[lone geyser]

its like in norway the honda fit is called the Jazz

[gusty roost]

[lone geyser]

because in norwegion its the honda c**t

[gusty roost]

I would actually buy a Car called Jazz if it looks good enough to paint it with Blues

Joke Intended

[lone geyser]

the original Honda Jazz looks like it has seen some shit

or like a japanese polonez 😂

[gusty roost]

Honda Jeez,

[loud spade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/CgXSPDPuR2s?si=qoF4TglT9YbKP2tO

Like an evil laugh

[mental lion]

0-60 in like 0.9 secs

[delicate briar]

can someone help me?

like i have the deluxo and when i press x it dosent open, what do i neeed to do

?

[loud spade]

Wrong channel for that, this is for non-gta vehicle talk. Someone will answer you in #gta-questions or #gta-vehicles

[delicate briar]

thanks 🙏🏽

[burnt raven]

Snapped this earlier

[nova estuary]

Now when a Mustang peeling out from a meet plows into pedestrians, the responding officer can pick up the spare

[dire shard]

this shi really did grow on me

i still hate the rear though

[distant raptor]

You guys like the s550 more ?

[sage roost]

Subjectively the front is better than the s550

[dire shard]

i think so too

this doesn't beat the goat gt350, but still: gt to gt, the s650 front looks better than the weird long face lumpy headlight s550 has

but i take great issue in the dumb angular cut in the rear

[kind osprey]

I thought y'all were talking about Mercedes s classes at first glance

[dire shard]

no, then i'd hate it forever because of the fifty screens inside

[onyx rivet]

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/first-look/hof-sir-class-a-1048bhp-tribute-lewis-hamilton

[onyx rivet]

i still firmly hold the opinion that both sixth-gen styles look better than the seventh-gen's front

too much grille on the S650, even without that black trim

the australian V8 Supercars touring cars only fixes it slightly

both GTD and Saleen variants absolutely fixes the front

im fine with the seventh-gen's rear, just the front pisses me off a little

[jagged sentinel]

[sage roost]

What a massively missed opportunity for it to be 1044bhp

[rich anvil]

Fuck that’s what the RCMP need catch me if they lucky (jkjk)

[dire shard]

they look like sports cars and i don't mind how they look, but the new front is big fat and boxier, it's more muscle

i much prefer the original to the facelift with it's dumb long grilles and weird side flap and lumpy headlights

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/548226670235090959/1314507806484856853/FB_IMG_1733336178186.png?ex=6754af0b&is=67535d8b&hm=11692c47af747817c95f30788b915f4b02a8d7de60e5e05e9364a1968ff422ab&

[opal forum]

That is one FAST potato box

[dire shard]

finally, 180sx firebird

[static gale]

now it's the George Russell tribute

[kind osprey]

That steering wheel on an offroad vehicle is goofy as fuck

[onyx rivet]

implying that is an offroad vehicle in any sense

[onyx rivet]

yes that still sucks

wow its got grey bits under the lights wow, its so edgy and sporty and mysterious

[mental lion]

It is

[fathom oriole]

and all of them are too low

how have car manufacturers not realized (like BMW did) that screens higher up are so much easier to use

[sage roost]

The interior from the previous gen S class is better than the new one and that's a fact

[jagged sentinel]

I can't tell if it has dial/button-controlled HVAC

If it does (and I'm assuming the new one doesn't), it's an automatic win

[sage roost]

buttons I think

[kind osprey]

Yea I really liked the dual 12 inch screens and the classy combo of materials. The new on looks so tacky

Ever if it is high quality the shape of the screen and the design feels lesser

[jagged sentinel]

Works for me, long as it's not relegated to a damn screen, which I also believe is just more unsafe than tactile controls

[jagged sentinel]

I also like that the screen is molded into the design of the dash rather than jutting out

[kind osprey]

Exactly

I never understood makijg the center screen look like a tablet you can just rip off

It looks so out of place

[jagged sentinel]

I hate this design trend

[kind osprey]

The only thing I like that they improved upon is the steering wheel

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah yeah cool RGB lights whatever. The screen sticking out bugs me to no end

Both of them

[sage roost]

https://www.mbusa.com/content/dam/mb-nafta/us/myco/my24/amg-gt-class/4-door/gallery/amg/gallery-class/2024-AMG-GT-4DR-COUPE-GAL-014-I-WP.jpg

The GT 4 door still has that design and more importantly

climate control BUTTONS

[jagged sentinel]

[kind osprey]

That thing looks like a rocket ship

[kind osprey]

This looks like a best buy

[lone geyser]

TRUE

[sage roost]

Yeah it looks like the screens were an afterthought after designing all the interior trim

merc designer after designing the interior: ohhhh shit we forgot the screens!!

[jagged sentinel]

If a RAM interior looks nicer than a Benz interior, there are some fucking problems happening somewhere

[sage roost]

Upright screen is an immediate NO

wait no

Shit i mixed up

[jagged sentinel]

I mean you can split the screen up to have two different tabs open, it's not like the screen space is wasted

That being said, I still prefer a wider screen

Ford went that route with their displays

Tactile controls is a win but ram still looks "nicer" imo

[sage roost]

Ford's chime gives me ptsd

And we don't even own a ford

[jagged sentinel]

I'm numb to it because I hear it constantly because of my job lol

Like almost literally constantly

[sage roost]

DO DO DOO

weather slightly too cold? DO DO DOO
engine fucking exploded? DO DO DOO

[jagged sentinel]

RAMs chime sounds similar but it's just one longer chime

No clue what Chevy's sound like, I don't drive those lol

[sage roost]

More like GM

all of the GM cars have the same chime

Think of it a slightly different version of the BMW chime

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah that's what I meant

[mental lion]

You’re not getting the design philosophy behind it

[mental lion]

Peak interior desing

And its exclusive to the s class

Unlike nowadays where all of them share the same design

[jagged sentinel]

What?

[mental lion]

Im being sarcastic

Its ass

[jagged sentinel]

Ah

[sage roost]

Better than the current one

[jagged sentinel]

This?

[sage roost]

Yes

[jagged sentinel]

I should ask what you're saying is better than the current one, which I understand to be the image above

[mental lion]

When i said “ass” i meant the new one

[silent oak]

Any of you people have experience with former police cars as daily’s?

[kind osprey]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DDS4pDbILlS/?igsh=N29laXdzMmI5eHBp

youlookforcars

Seriously, don’t follow. You’ll just end up addicted to car content.

#fyp #fouryoupage #exoticcars #car #supercar #hypercar #trend #4k #CarCulture #CarLifestyle

[📷 dnmcspd]

Instagram

[static gale]

That looks like the prototype I put together in Automation but red

[kind osprey]

it's an slc kit car

I would love to make one one day

[sage roost]

https://fixupx.com/mitsu_bnr32/status/1865223365642064044?s=46&t=DtvhcdCG8ywUmGuotpX6QA

[dire shard]

gotta wonder how much that cost to make

they even did cameras

[kind osprey]

Z935 is not something I ever expected to witness

[dire shard]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/428919034692501505/1315418213185753109/Untitled4_20241208204204.png?ex=6757562d&is=675604ad&hm=9720b19f7cb99e9f2f1794c33cd34578c30b376bcd46abec9793c8cff830bf15&

strangely... looks fine.

[obtuse urchin]

The rear is odd

But nice

[kind osprey]

Yea the taillights suck but the rest looks interesting

[dire shard]

i'm sure they'd look alright if the body panel was body colour, or maybe if the paint were dark

all the ford gt inspired accents are painted silver which just looks really weird

i have an unfortunate thing for circular taillights, i even like the bald looking intec taillights for the zc6/zn6

[jagged sentinel]

Those taillights are certainly a choice

There's a lot of Ford GT inspired bits and pieces there

The shape of the grille, the hood vents, the side "vents", the stripe, the shape of the diffuser

[sage roost]

I never liked GT taillights on the mustang

The stripes are iconic for the modern mustangs

[dire shard]

i think if the colour choice weren't a tragedy it wouldn't look that bad

looks like red power ranger

[indigo thicket]

Fire car

[spring cave]

why does the krieger have so few customisation options compared to the emerus, I know the emerus has a lot but the hood is so lackluster, they could have easily made the hood have an option for secondary but they said nah, carbon fibre

[loud spade]

If you’re wondering why this channel’s messages were cleared, and/or why you have so many ghost pings here: #server-announcements

[dire shard]

it's a wonderful time to post a turtle

[sage roost]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AnhxB8Xh6w
since it was caught in whatever happened here

[mental lion]

Is that a 737 max?

[fluid prawn]

Anyone else hate it when your Porsche detects YOU as the “thing in the way” and refuses to close the trunk so you have to forcefully slam it down?

And then it decides to open back up while you’re getting in and gettting ready to drive off, making you have to get back out, close it again and wait a minute to see if it opens again before driving off?

[past dune]

ur moim

[fluid prawn]

Istg it’s so annoying. Wdym there’s something in the way. I just closed you with no problem. If there was something in the way I wouldn’t be able to close it

[marsh lily]

[prime widget]

who tf pinged me

[round saddle]

passed my theory exam motorcycle (A) 🏍️😁

[old sedge]

Looks like someone massed pinged according to #server-announcements

[onyx rivet]

i guess they did beat their goal of a sub-seven minute lap time

but they still ended up being more slower than the equivalent 911 even if the GTD had more power

and more expensive too

(i'd still take the Mustang GTD)

[mental lion]

Interesting choice

For me the gtd loses in every category

[jagged sentinel]

I wanna see a run on dry track

Since apparently the 6:57 run (impressive in its own right) was done on damp/wet track

[nova estuary]

Yoo @jagged sentinel we were talking about my uncle's truck the other week and I was over there recently, so figured I'd snap some pics lol

Bonus sled. Idk anything about em though

[jagged sentinel]

Noice

[sage roost]

Most likely would be on par with the GT3MR

I think the 3RS is a bit too far ahead

[rocky roost]

What porch do you have

[jagged sentinel]

Perhaps

[karmic frigate]

Who ping

[eternal imp]

Who tagged me

[loud spade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/B1RWyJNhMew?si=SEOQesV9Z04eCT76

Bro he killed me at the end

[kind osprey]

It's an automatic car with paddle shifters

[loud spade]

https://youtube.com/shorts/AUpK9oIQsE0?si=M5uJ6-NDHwbxroSe

That’s about enough shorts for today

[dire shard]

i could not get through that one

maybe it's time for you to uninstall youtube

[loud spade]

Good for you

[loud spade]

I did that long time ago, now I just use youtube web

[dire shard]

[fathom fox]

Thiago Silva

[rich patio]

had my newly bought old jeep gutted for electrical repairs, a long long way to go lulz.

[static gale]

All that sound dampening ripe for the picking. Less weight, more speed

[onyx rivet]

https://youtu.be/9kZQnHhf_cQ?si=UNJJ1vqLFdcYwBwv
previous fastest laptime set by the car was around 7:28 before 2010

[kind osprey]

Those new tires being put to work I bet

[jade maple]

[kind osprey]

https://www.infrastructure.gov.au/infrastructure-transport-vehicles/vehicles/rvs/specialist-enthusiast-vehicles

Australia apparently now has a special license if you want a cool performance car

[dreamy tusk]

what the fuck happened to it

[prisma thicket]

🔥🔥🔥

[rich patio]

what is this thing? found it in my local mechanics

[kind osprey]

Looks like some Porsche aero car from the 30's or 40's

[mental lion]

They really used to make anything for sultan of brunei

[static gale]

Well, the symbol on the wheel is the Volkswagen Wolfsburg castle logo, so start from there (I've been searching for the last 10 minutes and want to go back to what I was doing 😭)

[static gale]

That's close enough, lol

[sage roost]

our car bottomed out in the sand and hit the plastic skid plate under the engine

Nothing happened except a few broken screws but could've been catastrophic

[kind osprey]

Slighy oopsie

[sage roost]

Slight oopsie indeed

and we had to drive like 5 kilometers in 10 psi all around tyres

[rich patio]

after asking for information with the owner,
it was apparently a volkswagen beetle modified heavily to look like a Porsche 64 😭

[static gale]

Actually Interesting

[dire shard]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/727070050132951110/1317582496493211739/IMG_3939.jpg?ex=675fde92&is=675e8d12&hm=a54f12baf8b086adab4defb2d0ada201e203112a8e81c4d5c500957ea5050254&

🤨

how does it get worse

[sage roost]

Electric M3

Say that again with a straight face

[kind osprey]

If a sports car isn't

• over 5500 pounds
• tri motor hybrid
• 23 inch rims
• very original and 💖stylish💫thin boxy daytime running lights
• No accessible climate buttons outside of the 7 screens on the dashboard 3 menus in

Is it really a sports car?

[static gale]

light weight? no or relatively simple hybrids? knobs to change everything in a format you could change everything with muscle memory? so last decade

[sage roost]

Blud described the new M5

Almost exactly

[kind osprey]

[jagged sentinel]

Even after all this time, reading the simple fact of a sports sedan weighing 5500 pounds is nuts to me

Literal full size trucks weigh less than that

Not even talking work-truck-spec; crew cab (full-size 2nd row of seats) trucks weigh around that iirc

[waxen narwhal]

um

whar

[mental lion]

You mean pickup trucks

[jagged sentinel]

Yes

[night solar]

Does Ford have the best muscle cars?

[jagged sentinel]

Now or back then?

[mental lion]

Ford never had the best muscle car ngl

[night steeple]

they had hiccups like everyone else I suppose

[jagged sentinel]

Now they're the only one left so

"mustang is a pony car" while I agree, the muscle car died in 1973, arguably before that, so attempting to make the distinction in the modern era is moot

The second golden age of the American sports car has over

For the same reason the first one ended

[mental lion]

Yea that’s sad

[jagged sentinel]

I mean I guess the CT5-V Blackwing is still around

If only for one more year

[mental lion]

Yea but that’s not a muscle car

Or is it

[jagged sentinel]

Debatable

[mental lion]

Styling wise

Nothing about it says muscle

[jagged sentinel]

It's Cadillac, not a Dodge

[mental lion]

Yea ik

Beautiful car regardless

[jagged sentinel]

Supercharged 6.2 Liter, pushrod V8

Rear wheel drive

a good amount of space on the inside

[jagged sentinel]

Do you think the 4-door Charger is a muscle car

The V8 ones at least

[mental lion]

It got every trait of the muscle car

But no

[jagged sentinel]

Why not?

[mental lion]

But at the same time yea

Its a 4 door muscle car basically

You know what

It is a muscle car

[jagged sentinel]

The notion that 4 doors automatically bars a vehicle from being a muscle car is silly to me tbh

[jagged sentinel]

Which is why I think the CT5-V is one too, because it does what the charger does while being more comfortable, safer, handling better and also offering a third pedal, which is based as fuck from Cadillac

[mental lion]

A better hellcat for similar price

They shouldve made more chevy ss too

[jagged sentinel]

Their price starts a little higher than the charger but the insane mark-ups everyone is doing nullifies the difference lol

[mental lion]

Exactly yea

Paying 10-16k over msrp to have a mass produced car a little earlier is silly

[sage roost]

Doubt it's only for one year considering they did a facelift for it

[night steeple]

ladies and gentlemen i present, the prius coupe I mean honda prelude with cvt

[sage roost]

lmao i was arguing with someone yesterday how the prelude looks a lot like the Prius

https://fxtwitter.com/honda/status/1869038652413673961

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/934169337680498718/1318696746674688030/image0.jpg?ex=6763ec4c&is=67629acc&hm=6eac6398252464fda0ea912bc54876b0f05100be5b60f8c76b3a78ffd37ca7dc&

I mean....

[night steeple]

hybrid? yes cvt? yes prius? yes? uhh, prius coupe? uhh yeah.. should've called it that

[kind osprey]

Honda sf90

[static gale]

it's not just me, right?

[jagged sentinel]

[onyx rivet]

the light bar of the tailights gets slightly larger on the opposite end
..on both cars

[jagged sentinel]

I think Toyota might have a case here ngl

I mean, Christ even the C-Pillar window shape is the same

Like the angle is strikingly similar

[dire shard]

yk what i'm not even mad because the new prius actually looks good

prelude doesn't look that bad(especially for an electric car), just a lil stubby

[jagged sentinel]

It does look good, but my point is the Prius was here first and the prelude is copying...quite a bit

[dire shard]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

car is car

[night steeple]

this feels like the mitsubishi eclipse crossover again

[sage roost]

If so Mazda should sue ferrari for copying their CX-30

if you get what I mean

[dull folio]

This shit is so ass 💔

[mental lion]

For some reason i feel like they copied the rear end design from porsche

The font atleast

[upper rampart]

kinda ugly , Nissan Skyline r32 better

[kind osprey]

That's a very random comparison to throw out

[dire shard]

admin he's doing it sideways

[jagged sentinel]

Cringe

[desert ginkgo]

What is that game my brudda?

[upper rampart]

Well , no im just a car guy who loves drifting and cool cars who can get tuned perfectly

[jagged sentinel]

Skylines aren't the only cars suitable for drifting, and there are cars that can achieve a similar result for much cheaper and much less of the original car removed

[static gale]

Then why bring up a 20+ year old car on a post about a new one 😵‍💫

[kind osprey]

I'd rather drift a 240 tbh

Skyline gtr's to me are more something I'd wanna track

[jagged sentinel]

Same

They're way too refined and well-engineered just to gut and turn into a drift car

[kind osprey]

And expensive

[jagged sentinel]

That too

[sage roost]

Maturing is realizing old civics are cool as fuck

[kind osprey]

240's are a lot more of the vibe to throw around and break

[kind osprey]

Honda fit with a full roll cage and big ass turbo pulling up

It is just a 6 foot 5 buff dude

He's ready to go

[static gale]

When you hear the car before you see it, you know it's joever

[jagged sentinel]

Or feel the car before you see it

In two different ways I suppose

[static gale]

[sage roost]

Or a Honda element

basically a motorcycle engine with no weight

wait no wrong car I think

[static gale]

Old prelude?

[sage roost]

insight!!

just hear me out

[static gale]

That's the one I meant, too lol

[sage roost]

https://youtube.com/shorts/9QR2j_OOsjg?si=vF-LxWVA8baIPgNT

[static gale]

Specifically because of Robot Cantina

[sage roost]

honestly

K swap the world who says no

[static gale]

This pulls up next to you at a stop light 👇

https://www.razaoautomovel.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/08/Renault_Twingo_Honda_K20_Turbo-925x520.webp

What you doin

[sage roost]

those tyres dont look like they fit on a twingo

[sage roost]

https://x.com/EngineMode11/status/1869736981460381945?t=QacZKiscRB5ApBSJUJJyLA&s=19

Dan - EngineMode11 (@EngineMode11) on X

Wishing nothing but a Merry Christmas to the McLaren Engineer that shoved a 650S Engine into the back of his '88 VW Caddy

Twitter · Dec 19, 2024, 1:30 PM

[icy olive]

Throw ||shit|| at it.

[kind osprey]

Honda Element offroaders go crazy

[gusty roost]

Who knows the very specific model of this Mercee?

[jagged sentinel]

Well it's an E-Class, has AMG badging on the left but not the particular AMG model badging on the right, unless the AMG E-Class only came as a 63

[gusty roost]

I'm scared of you and i love you at the same time

How much is Murica?

[jagged sentinel]

What do you mean?

[gusty roost]

Price in USA

[jagged sentinel]

I'd have to look

[kind osprey]

They made 43's aswell

[kind osprey]

New my guess is these ranges anywhere from $85,000-$125,000

Depending on the 43 or 63

If that is a real amg it probably isn't the 63

[sage roost]

Looks like a fairly normal up-badged E class

doesnt look like an AMG

[gusty roost]

But it has //AMG badge…

[sage roost]

yes, thats called up-badging

Kinda like when someone who drives a V6 challenger slaps a hellcat badge on the side of his car

[kind osprey]

Take a c220 and shove amg body kits on it and you're set lol

I saw someone do that and the crazy part is it looked incredibly genuine

You can't tell when the car was off

[sage roost]

My uncle a few years ago bought an AMG-kit W204 C200

As close you could get to the C63 without the actual powertrain

even the quad exhaust

[kind osprey]

Those are big in Eastern Asia

There are probably who body shops dedicated to that

[sage roost]

well when he sold it someone checked his VIN number and it was crashed before.... BADLY. and repaired

[mental lion]

Amg cars are easy to replicate compared to M cars

[gusty roost]

is that allowed by the manufacturer?

because i swear i can lost my house if i put a "F8 Trtibuto" on an Enzo

[sage roost]

because thats Ferrari

[jagged sentinel]

They have no business worrying about it

Let alone telling people not to

[onyx rivet]

doesnt have the AMG-specific exhaust pipe so it cant be that

[hybrid charm]

Los Santos needs more public transportation

[hybrid charm]

It can work in Online as well

[night steeple]

about to go to a hatchback car meet irl but the clouds don't look too promising, better prepare my umbrella heh

[rich patio]

my car's lovely electrics

100% not a safety hazard

[latent mango]

she'll be'right

bit of electrical tape and she'll be right as rain

[rich patio]

i agree, and actually hope it will. because that's mostly what i only did

[dire shard]

my beloved

[hybrid charm]

blue rims tho

[sage roost]

I'm down bad for grey with blue rims

[fiery rover]

Mercedes-Benz Classe C

[fiery rover]

black rims is better

[dire shard]

😔 unfortunately this opinion is lacking in swag

[gusty roost]

I'm confused

Is a fucking AMG or not?

[kind osprey]

The magnesium rims

Yummy

[night solar]

What car is this irl?

[kind osprey]

2008-2010 Aston Martin db9

[night solar]

Thanks

[fiery rover]

yes

[fiery rover]

F680

[naive thorn]

Found this rare spawn

[onyx rivet]

everyone was saying that it isn't a real AMG E-Class

[somber pine]

i got a m3cs

n a amg c43

if yall wanna see it'

i got the 24 cs

signal green

and my mom has a x7

[naive thorn]

Cook

[naive thorn]

He doesn't have an M3 CS

[thick shadow]

Hey all im building a N70 Hilux For Touring Australia and want peoples thoughts on a look i can make it look like

[blazing vault]

Found an Ford F150, is it a raptor or normal one?

[sage roost]

looks like a raptor

[somber pine]

I do indeed

I don’t got perms to send images

won’t let me

[naive thorn]

Speak more

[somber pine]

that is not a raptor 💀💀💀

[naive thorn]

You'll level up

[somber pine]

alr

igu

yo lumbago

bro my dad without knowledge bought the 4 cylinder amg like 6 months ago bro 🤦🏾‍♂️

[kind osprey]

Larry

[naive thorn]

[inland bobcat]

[jagged sentinel]

Raptor

[somber pine]

that is not a raptor

💀

[sage roost]

How is it not a raptor

it's a raptor

[mental lion]

Just because its missing the decals doesn’t mean it isn’t

[jagged sentinel]

They don't all come with Decals anyway, it's an extra

[mental lion]

Yea I know

Gotta admit it looks a little weird without them

[dire shard]

honda merging with mitsubishi and nissan

thinkthonk

[naive thorn]

They taking down Toyota?

[dire shard]

more like mitsubishi and nissan are taking down honda

[zealous raptor]

So what will happen to Acura after its acquisition by Nissan

Remember, Acura was owned by Honda

[naive thorn]

RIP honda

[naive thorn]

Shares go to the new owner

Maybe

[dire shard]

mergers have a primary and secondary owner

so two outcomes happen

[static gale]

Red Bull Powertrains Honda-Mitsubishi-Nissan

[dire shard]

1: honda takes over nissan and fuck all happens, honda basically gets all of nissan's factory and intellectual property for a fraction of the price

or 2: mcdonnell douglas 2: electric boogaloo happens

pray that 1 happens so that stuff like acura doesn't get shafted and the gt-r team might possibly get the budget to actually make something that isn't the same car for twenty years

pray 2 doesn't happen or else honda is going to go like boeing and the gt-r and z platform lives another thirty years

that's me and my limited knowledge though

ghosn thinks this is a terrible idea

he says that the two brands have no complementary qualities, they compete in the same area and don't have anything to provide for each other

[zealous raptor]

If Nissan took over Honda, then cars imported to NA such as the Q50 under Infiniti brand will no longer belong to Infiniti, it'll go back to its original owner under Nissan.

Having certain Japanese cars imported to a different sub-brand owned by a parent manufacturer (Honda and Nissan) are annoying in the US.

[sage roost]

Honda to convince Nissan to get rid of the ShatCo CVT

one can hope

[onyx rivet]

please explain in car manufacturers terms

are yoyu trying to say that honda might stuff up nissan and mitsubishi?

[dire shard]

when mcdonnell douglas fell apart, it was acquired by boeing

but the executives of mcdonnell douglas, whose policies were responsible for the failure of the company, were promoted to high up in boeing's structure

you see how boeing is now

(an utter failure)

the hope is the same thing doesn't happen between nissan's funny execs being promoted high up into honda and causing honda to fall apart

of course the circumstances aren't the same, but the whole situation just feels really familiar

[onyx rivet]

oh i understand the analogy now

yeah we dont want that

[night solar]

Hey what car is this?

[simple tide]

Pretty sure it’s Pontiac firebird or sum like this

[jagged sentinel]

2nd gen Chevy Camaro it looks like

[static gale]

hahaha

[static gale]

what Will said is correct, it is indeed a 2nd gen Camaro

example: https://classiccars.com/listings/view/1002486/1981-chevrolet-camaro-for-sale-in-lakeland-florida-33810

[night solar]

Thanks

[onyx rivet]

great spots

jeez i forget how awkward the first gen flying spur's rear looks

[dire shard]

o i forgor this one

gallardos are just so

supercar

they just look so supercar

peak lamborgine machine

[sage roost]

The gallardo is the "I bought a supercar but I most definitely cannot handle supercar maintenance costs" car

[mental lion]

That’s not 1st gen spur tho

Its the 2nd one i think

1st gen looks clean

[mental lion]

Hard to believe they came out 20 years ago

[opal forum]

If maintenance costs is a worry, might aswell just go for an R8 instead

[sage roost]

Applies to both cars

[dire shard]

the year is 2024

every single performance car is "i bought a performance car but can't handle performance car maintenance costs"

[dull folio]

Me in a few months when I buy a Porsche (I'm about to find out why they depreciated)

[sage roost]

No thats the stereotype associated with the gallardo/first gen R8

the huracan and second gen R8 are the "pls buy my course" cars

[opal forum]

The lambo would still be more expensive to maintain

[jagged sentinel]

Bumblebee

[hearty ruin]

:exclamation:To contact the Moderators, please send me a Direct Message. Mentioning me does not alert moderators:exclamation:

[naive thorn]

No one speak to bro

[thorn skiff]

everytime i see a gallardo i always think of shaqs

fucking humongus doors lol

[fathom oriole]

@kind osprey

[kind osprey]

Woah

Beautiful

What museum is that Mercedes own?

[fathom oriole]

technic museum in vienna

other example of it sold for $70M

[kind osprey]

[fathom oriole]

https://www.classic-car-auctions.info/european/germany/2024-rm-sothebys-stuttgart-sale-mercedes-benz-w196r-announced/

nvm expected to

hasn’t sold yet

https://www.classic-car-auctions.info/usa/2024-rm-sothebys-indianapolis-motor-speedway-museum-sale-cars-announced/

[glad mountain]

Why do I have a ping in here?

[dapper furnace]

Same

[fleet owl]

Because you were pinged

[fleet owl]

Imagine that as a daily

[loud spade]

It would suck ass

[kind osprey]

Any car from before the 70's would be annoying to drive in a comfort or necessity setting

Honestly no matter what type of car it is

Cars like those straight up have starting rituals

Where you need to turn on the oil circulation, press some boops and flick some bops in the correct order then crank the starter and boom it stalls

[jagged sentinel]

There's also just always something wrong with it

There's always a weird noise, always a loose screw, always something shaking, always something small but annoying that you can't be bothered to fix because when you do fix it something else goes wrong and the cycle repeats ad nauseum

[dire shard]

start up rituals are fun

i wanna get a kill switch in one of the ceiling buttons

push it like a fighter jet

why is it half of the g87 i've seen have all been asphalt grey

people with shit tastes don't deserve money

[sage roost]

Good morning

(Not my pics)

[swift olive]

why we can't upload pics of cars?

[naive thorn]

You need lvl5

[swift olive]

well that will take a year

[loud spade]

Lmao

It’s also incredibly expensive and you really don’t want to damage it in any way

Go over a bump too hard and it’s fucked

[sage roost]

It won't

you can just talk and get it in no time

Just don't spam

[onyx rivet]

that has to be a restomod because the interior is a lot better than i remember

oh roght it is, i just seen the front lights

[sage roost]

It is

has the LM bodykit too

[fleet owl]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-buttons-switch-controls-gif-17290671

[kind osprey]

Basically

[tepid fog]

guys i have a question

so yk how others have their exhaust butterfly thingy open up with remote key ?

is it possible to instead of using the key, the butterfly opens when vtec hits

[kind osprey]

Like a remote valve that makes the exhaust louder?

[tepid fog]

yea

u get how when vtec kicks the car gets louder..well i want it even louder and annoying

[static gale]

Username checks out

[tepid fog]

yes

[dry sage]

Guess where I've been. 🤭

Also, HONDA AND NISSAN ARE MERGING TOGETHER IN 2026, WHAT THE FUCK?

[hybrid charm]

and Mitsubishi right

[dry sage]

YEP.

[mental lion]

Bmw museum?

[jagged sentinel]

https://www.motor1.com/news/745629/california-dealers-sue-vw-scout-direct-sales/

Fuck California

As always

[kind osprey]

As much as California is a failed society, I gotta say almost every state has this bullshit happening

Scummy dealers will never let people directly buy cars

No matter the location

[dire shard]

when are we gonna see "california residents are preparing to sue california dealers for being among the scummiest and shittiest beings in society"

[rich patio]

just remove california

[loud spade]

Tsunami: hold my beer

[sage roost]

New drivers doing everything in their power to not miss their exit (their car is totaled now)

[tepid fog]

is any of you a tuner?

[kind osprey]

I changed a Battery once

[tepid fog]

i want to figure out dead times for 290cc injectors

[swift olive]

I love this car! almost have it with the same color!

[tepid fog]

cleaned the engine bay a little

[static gale]

one of the most iconic reds in automotive history

[dire shard]

preflute

i'm living in an m2 world

763m really be one of the prettiest wheels around

any yaris enjoyers

[naive thorn]

My beloved

[onyx rivet]

da GRRRRRRRRR yaris angry boi

[naive thorn]

Oh this is in Japan

Explains a lot

[onyx rivet]

thats not Japan

[naive thorn]

Uhh

What is it

[dire shard]

taiwan

[naive thorn]

They get gr yaris too?

[dire shard]

why wouldn't they

taiwan is just japan lite 😎

[onyx rivet]

its not a Japan exclusive model
its sold in the United Kingdom, its sold in New Zealand, its sold in South Africa

[naive thorn]

Everywhere with right hand driving

[tepid fog]

cutie potato

[night solar]

Saw that on my way home

[dull folio]

And all of Europe lol

[naive thorn]

Does it come in left driver ?

[dull folio]

yes

[naive thorn]

Now I need to find one

[rigid sand]

my dad sold 10 of these in one day

ppl seem to like those

[naive thorn]

Gimme your dads number

[tepid fog]

for a reason...

[sage roost]

#gta-vehicles

[rigid sand]

thats all i can give :(

[rigid sand]

Tho this one is pre 2024 model with cooler interior. 2024 model looks like a van or smth

[kind osprey]

Are these in the US?

Or do we just get the corolla

[mental lion]

Just looked it up and it sucks

[dire shard]

yeah they did the funny with the facelifted interior

semitruck interior

[dire shard]

corolla only

the more i think about it, the more i don't mind

the corolla looks better

having been inside the gr corolla it's also small enough as it is, the yaris would be nearly useless as a regular car

[mental lion]

You definitely need to have another car as your daily

[limpid flame]

Was my nursing school gift

[quartz prawn]

thats crazyy, congrats and drive safe!

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2007-lexus-lx470-31/
https://bringatrailer.com/listing/2006-lexus-ls430-18/
perfect daily lineup 🙏

[limpid flame]

My dad is angry on me I not drive too much and me bought a different car lol. Is too low to ground and only two seats so it spends many time in a garage lol. I say let's sell and he tell to me we need wait 25 years for some reason I forget. It's a stress because my dad buy for me as surprise and not tell to my mom and she always been crabby about it. Now Jenna drives it some.

[limpid flame]

That first one is size I like

[naive thorn]

After 25 years that corvett will be a rare find

[limpid flame]

Ahhh ok but I have many doubts I can keep it perfect until then but now still many low mikes. Is just so small and first thing I told my father was "where I supposed to put the subwoofers"

[naive thorn]

🤣

[rigid sand]

U get the Corolla we get the yaris

[sage roost]

Where I live all the douchebags that think they own the road drive LS430s

basically the BMW stereotypical drivers

tailgating even if you're 20 above the speed limit

[limpid flame]

Lmao, me is the douchebag with subwoofers annoy and move mirrors. Lol that was funny

[tepid fog]

thats so true

[rich patio]

Good ol' car with good ol' technologies

[naive thorn]

Ah the Arabic driver experience

[kind osprey]

It absolutely won't

They are extremely mass produced

[naive thorn]

Like in clean condition as shown

[kind osprey]

It's recently made I'd hope It'd be clean rn

It's a nice car but by zero means are they rare

[naive thorn]

Where I come from 30+ years old cars are categorised as classic
They have different legel process and their price is higher

So that corvette in 2050 will be in that category

And might be rare to find

[rich patio]

i think for a car to be classic, it is universal for most cars under the 1980s that is still in pristine good condition (atleast not rusted or dented to hell)

of course, some are still called old junk

[naive thorn]

Yeah it's just a legal thing

They have to set a criteria

And saying cars below a fixed year can only qualify is kinda not fair for cars from the 1990s and early 2000s

Like the R34 and MK4 supra for example

They are classic cars for their iconic design and reputation

[onyx rivet]

they're already considered classics

[naive thorn]

[onyx rivet]

the latest model year A80s or R34s are more than 20 years old

thats a lot older than the average age of the JayDeeM tuner fanbase

and even if they arent considered classics, you can still use the word 'retro'

actually no, i used the word retro wrong

[naive thorn]

Well I am saying in our law there's a category called classic cars

Definition is 30+ years old

Not personal opinion or what community thinks

[onyx rivet]

?
did you not say that the r34 and the mk4 supra are 'classic cars' 'for their iconic design and reputation'

[jagged sentinel]

They're retro at best imo

[naive thorn]

Man...

It's either I can't communicate well or you actually don't read the paragraph I write

[onyx rivet]

Not personal opinion or what community thinks
but also, from you:
And saying cars below a fixed year can only qualify is kinda not fair for cars from the 1990s and early 2000s
Like the R34 and MK4 supra for example
They are classic cars for their iconic design and reputation

[naive thorn]

So

[onyx rivet]

i think its the former

[naive thorn]

This is what I was saying since the beginning

I was talking about the corvette and explaining the law from my perspective

Then I brought these as a reponse to frank who argued that cars from the 80s should be considered classics. I got the impression that he means exclusively 80s and before

[naive thorn]

You didn't read my paragraph

[kind osprey]

He is saying by road registration standards, anything over 30 years is labeled as "old"

[naive thorn]

Yeah

They get special treatment

[jagged sentinel]

Depending on where

[naive thorn]

Where I am from

[kind osprey]

They don't get special treatment they just cost more to insure

After 20 years here

[naive thorn]

Nah those for 10 years+

30+ years are candidate for "classic"

[kind osprey]

What country

[naive thorn]

Oman

[kind osprey]

Ah

[jagged sentinel]

We have an 87 Camaro that my dad declined to have registered as a classic because it's just extra restrictions for no real benefit

[naive thorn]

[naive thorn]

What are the restrictions

[jagged sentinel]

Can only drive it so many miles in a year and can only drive it certain times of the year afaik

And/or driving it to/from certain places but I'm less clear if Michigan has that rule or not

[naive thorn]

Basically what makes "classic" cars different from "old" is that they can get local plates
"Old" cars cannot be imported here, like they keep their old plates

[jagged sentinel]

Interesting

[naive thorn]

If it's from Japan you'll need to take it there for renewal

[naive thorn]

Bruh

[jagged sentinel]

Aren't Japanese car registration laws famously awful for keeping your car awhile

[naive thorn]

Idk

People here import cars from UAE mostly

[jagged sentinel]

Those laws benefit 25Y/O+ cars that weren't originally sold in America

Like Skylines and such

[naive thorn]

Yeah

Same thing

[jagged sentinel]

I believe it was bill gates who lobbied the law into existence because he wanted a Porsche 959

Which wasn't ever localized for america

[naive thorn]

Of course he would

[jagged sentinel]

I don't blame him

The 959 is cool as shit

[onyx rivet]

Nah you'd be right, i actually didn't see that paragraph and thought you went off a tangent

my fault

[jagged sentinel]

[naive thorn]

It's alright

[jagged sentinel]

Actually I got it mixed up with another law

He lobbied the Show and Display system into existence

[naive thorn]

[onyx rivet]

didnt he had to homoglate it or something by giving it mph bumpers