transportation

[normal birch]

quote from :
https://talentup.io/blog/united_states_salaries_vs_europe_salary_differences/#:~:text=In general%2C wages in the,standard of living the same.

[steady cove]

This convo hurts my head

Just because living costs more doesnt mean they pay 3k of their 4k salary in taxes

Thats what i mean

[normal birch]

Yes, you make more money, but the cost of living is higher, and you only start to make way more money when you are highly specialised and or highly skilled

[steady cove]

You can live fine in the us with minimum salary 👍🏻

In europe you cant

That alone should be able to tell you what i mean

[normal birch]

unless you have highly specialised and requested job, its better to live in Europe, but we are digressing. My question was why people in the USa have such a different car culture from Europeans

[steady cove]

A mcdonalds worker in the us gets paid 5x the average wage here

xD

Yapster

[normal birch]

I'd argue the opposite, you are better off poor as an eurpean than in the USA, I feel like we are missing essnetial input from USA citizens, and people who live in both palces

and all McDonalds entry level worker are on government subsidies, even most of Walmart employees, they even have part of their training consists on how to apply for government subsidies, because they know they can't afford to live in the meagre salary they pay them

[steady cove]

We are not talking about poor, we are talking about a minimum wage worker

Minimum wage workers are not poor my man.

[normal birch]

ok, you expressly used McDonald's employees as an example, where they only recently updated their wages to 15.55 USD an hour, because they couldn't get people to work. in 2019 hourly wage used to be between 10.39 and 15.08, depending on the role (according to payscale), in 2024 they increased to 15.54. Now 15.55/hr * 40hr a week * 4 weeks =2488 USD. and then subtract the higher cost of living, making you even poorer with no social safety net at all. But here again, I am not here to discuss about who has higher wages, because, yes, USA citizens nominally they do, but they have higher expnses as well

@steady cove where do you live in Europe?

[steady cove]

Portugal 😍

I ll help you

The minimum wage here a month is 800€

If you want to add living expenses that goes down to 500€

[normal birch]

and you work 40 hrs a week?

[steady cove]

But its given most people that work a minimum wage job here are supported therefore they dont even pay living expenses

[steady cove]

8hrs a day 5 days a week

[normal birch]

living expnses only 300 euro? pretty cheap

[steady cove]

850€

[steady cove]

YEAH IT HAS TO BE

[normal birch]

My rent 4x that

[steady cove]

Rent is not the same

Renting a house here is like 1200 a month given its a bottom of the barrel home

In lisbon that can go up to 8k

Most expensive rent in all of europe

Such a wonderful country

I was saying living expenses as owning a house and paying for water gas ect ect

Not renting

[normal birch]

And what do you do for living?

[steady cove]

Nothing rn

Looking for a job which sucks ass

[normal birch]

and do you not get unemplyment?

[steady cove]

No bcs i have to be employed first for that to happen

[normal birch]

and before that what was your profession?

[steady cove]

Its gonna be my 1st job

[normal birch]

I see

[steady cove]

None im 19 🤣

I did do a shit ton of internships tho

And got payed like 200 a month for them max

Biggest scam of my life

[normal birch]

Get a degree, a doctor, lawyer engineer, EMT, a technician a solar panel installer, anything. it will get you higher wage

[steady cove]

I already have everything i need to have a high wage

The problem is

No one wants to pay them

😇

[normal birch]

Dont fucking do internship, who the hell does that, let slave you for free

[steady cove]

Its also wayy easier to get jobs in the us did you know that

[steady cove]

No they pay us less. And gives us experience

Its good

Mostly

[normal birch]

with the carrot of the employment dangling in front of you. better go Germany, your English good enough, or even Italy

[steady cove]

Since alot of jobs here want "work experience" and thats impossible to get when ur new to the work industry, internships are our only salvation

[steady cove]

Yah i know but i dont wna leave portugal 🤠

Im fine its only been like 3 months looking

I ll probably just land a basic minimum wage job and try to find something more specialized on my area

[normal birch]

I'd only accept an internship if they guaranteed a valuable qualification that can be used elsewhere and a guaranteed employment with higher than minimum wage

[steady cove]

Thats impossible here lol

Asking too much

[normal birch]

In germany is like that

[steady cove]

This is not germany tho

[normal birch]

you work for companis and study at the same time, you get your certificate and get into a new role, get paid 2 to 3x

The f move bro don;t stay in Portugal

[steady cove]

I already have certificates

I literally dont need anything studies wise

All i need is work

Which is what is missing

[normal birch]

or Stay in Portugal if you can get another qualification that can give you a better paying job

[steady cove]

Im just gonna do what everyone else does since its the smartest option lol

Im not leaving portugal

[normal birch]

Mandatory school certificate or specialised, I don't know become dental hygienist assistant

[steady cove]

I want to but i cant 😍

Im a lvl 4 programmer and have multiple certificates on cisco and microsoft

I could get payed alot

But the job industry is ass here

I might just end up doing the lvl5 just to finish that area

Since its so hard finding job rn

[normal birch]

F everyone else, and what is smart, you are young and can afford to take risks, you have no dependants, you don't want to lock the rest of your life in a mediocre stipend job and outlook, strive for the most you can get out of this life, You only get one.

[steady cove]

I ll probably find something else eventually

I just want income

Im not desperate for money since my family is very well off

[normal birch]

You get burned out if you are simply looking for income. See ikigai, and try to find a balance: https://japanupclose.web-japan.org/techculture/c20230609_1.html

I am glad your family can sustain you

@steady cove you still there? read about ikigai my man

[hybrid charm]

trap

[nimble mist]

hi

[nimble mist]

agree

if it is hard get other jobs

nice cars

[kind osprey]

Bleu bee em doubauu

[drowsy folio]

I'm switching between this link and "Bottom of Page", it's so fun

[sterile kayak]

The new M5 looks awful

[kind osprey]

There is no regular sedan that is as iconic, timeless and proportional than the 5 series

...

And they fucking ruined it

Bmw really had to make their most proportional car look goofy as shit

[sage roost]

I really don’t mind it as much as both of you do

I hope they kept physical buttons and stuff on it

And not the shitty new X3 interior

ok I take back everything I said what the actual fuck is this

I’m concerned about the weight

but it has the XM engine I believe, S68 with an electric motor

[fast edge]

how did we get here

[kind osprey]

Some Swedish child yelling

And Volkswagen

[fast edge]

new vw's look pretty sharp though

right in front of a mod

very clever

[kind osprey]

I meant diesel-gate

[sage roost]

https://content.wheelz.me/wp-content/uploads/2023/06/A232794_large.webp

yeah I agree!!

[dire shard]

nice vw

it's the new arteon wagon

[sage roost]

bro

[dire shard]

what

did you expect they'd keep the physical buttons

😎

[sage roost]

duh

I don’t want to go into 9 different menus to turn the AC on

[static gale]

That's the thing I hate the most about no buttons. Having to go through menus for climate control.
I don't wanna muscle memory my way through a touch screen, I can hardly do that with the phone I've had for years

[hybrid charm]

exactly

Touch controls are a cool concept but aren’t designed well

good enough

[hybrid charm]

awesome vw!!!

[hybrid charm]

it’s more heavier 😭

i hope the power difference can close the gap

i might be more in this chat tbf

[onyx rivet]

they really gave the digital screen gauge clusters whatever treatment they did with the grille

touch controls really need to go down the drain

[dire shard]

fuck

now you can't say "i don't care how the car looks since i'm driving it from inside"

because how the car looks has directly impacted what the interior looks like now 😎

[nova estuary]

I forgot if it was BMW or MB, but they had a feature where you'd say "I'm cold" or "windshield is foggy" and it would adjust accordingly

That was a bit ago too. So they either still have, or scrapped it because it sucked

[drowsy folio]

I'd own one

[drowsy folio]

i bet it was jank as fuck

[sage roost]

the new M5 weighs in at checks notes 2400kg

Mfw

[loud spade]

Nice

We get 100+ more horsepower but it’s actually slower

0-100 km/h in 3.5 seconds

[steady cove]

Fat

[jagged sentinel]

https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/ford-recalls-550000-pickup-trucks-transmissions-suddenly-downshift-111396299

All I can say to that is

Yikes.

[sage roost]

ford moment

we own a decade old Kia and we haven’t had any of the issues people keep complaining about

but my unc owned a ford since 2019 and had constant problems

[jagged sentinel]

Newer Fords seem to have more problems than older ones

[sage roost]

well the ford in question is an escape

so…

[kind osprey]

Are you serious

[sage roost]

yes

[jagged sentinel]

I'm dead

[kind osprey]

The m5 weighs 1000 pounds MORE than my moms 7 seater full size suv wtf

Do they put bricks in there for fun?

[sage roost]

curb weight of the M5 CS is 4100lbs lmao

for comparison

[kind osprey]

The last gen at 4100 pounds seemed heavy

But 5200 is outrageous

[sage roost]

so the power gains will be outweighed by the weight anyway

[jagged sentinel]

And that's supposed to be the ultralight version bruh

[sage roost]

pun intended

[jagged sentinel]

prison

[sage roost]

tbf 1800kg is not that bad

it’s a big sedan

[jagged sentinel]

Isn't the CS the stripped down track version

[sage roost]

yeah but still

not really stripped though

[jagged sentinel]

It'll still probably be a great sports car, say what you want about BMW but they have that down to a science

[sage roost]

obviously still has back seats, but more carbon fiber

[jagged sentinel]

Yeah it should have back seats at least as an option

[sage roost]

the regular last gen M5 competition is almost 4400 lbs

[jagged sentinel]

Why manufacture a set of back doors if there's no reason to open them

[sage roost]

what’s funny is that it’s only a 4 seater and even the rear seats are buckets

[jagged sentinel]

It will realistically only comfortably seat 4 anyway

Even if the back seat was a bench seat

[sage roost]

I know for a fact there’s a company at the Nurburgring that uses the M5 CS as a taxi vehicle

[jagged sentinel]

Not surprising at all

[sage roost]

to drive people around the track

so there’s that

[jagged sentinel]

That makes a lot of sense

[sage roost]

that same company also uses a 992 3RS as a taxi

[kind osprey]

That is a great idea for someone who never drove on it before

To get a feel for it

[sage roost]

there’s also a YouTuber called Misha Charoudin

but he’s more like you bringing your own car

[kind osprey]

Yea he's great

If anyone thinks jdm's went up, just look at this article lmao

For anyone out of the loop the car is worth $50,000,000-$80,000,000 now

[sage roost]

damn why didn’t I invest in this smh

[dire shard]

should have invested in the ferrari 250 gto back then(i wasn't even a thought in god's plan)

[steady cove]

(Its ai btw)

Someone has to make one of these or im gonna be on a life mission

[mental narwhal]

Its gonna take time if one decides to do one of these

[onyx rivet]

its fantastic

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/205751807312396288/1255443688046198794/96499a0714656c141d79057c61af178e.jpg?ex=667d268c&is=667bd50c&hm=223bb0961f0d2fb30cca671cb14b18dd94e330ced49ad708aa08affc384340d1&=&format=webp&width=615&height=676

fantasticly horrid

[dire shard]

pre-dented

[sterile kayak]

Controlled dent

[steady cove]

Im gonna controlled dent yiur forehead

[sterile kayak]

Tf

Ima controlled dent your engine and steal your catalytic converter

[steady cove]

Jokes on you i have no car

[static gale]

[hybrid charm]

LMAO

[hybrid charm]

i’ll take ur whole fucking engine yu knob

[sterile kayak]

You want my 998 cc 3cyl? Take it

[hybrid charm]

sure

😭

i’m acc gon take ur whole car now

maybe leave the ecu and the seats

possibly a half bitten burger if ur hungry ever

the rest up to u mate

[sage roost]

you could probably deadlift the car

[sterile kayak]

900kg?

[sage roost]

This is insane

key takeaway is that the difference in weight between the original E28 M5 and the F90 is LESS than the F90 and G90

[dire shard]

really have to wonder exactly what they put in it

[sage roost]

big ass battery

but it’s only BMWs that have big ass batteries for some reason

[dire shard]

a thousand pounds of batteries

auto techs be strugglin

[sage roost]

Never doubt bee em double u

[kind osprey]

STOCKS ONLY GO UPPPP

🗣️🗣️🗣️

[onyx rivet]

holy shit, what an absolute whopper

[hybrid charm]

my dad might be purchasing this 😄😭

if he will it will be interesting as he has an Rs4 avant 20’ as more of a weekend car and an S4 in 20’ as a daily so this will be really interesting 😭

[steady cove]

Will it be interesting?

I think ur dad likes a4s

Tell him to buy another one

[kind drift]

I reckon there's probably a reason it's so cheap

[hybrid charm]

project

[hybrid charm]

LMAO😭

he does love his audis

[drowsy folio]

it's undesirable to most except those that know what's inside

[drowsy folio]

good man

[amber bolt]

Which ai did you use?

[steady cove]

tiktok ai

[jagged sentinel]

fun class today

[radiant obsidian]

how the hell do you even disassemble a car like that

[drowsy folio]

oh sick!

[drowsy folio]

if it's body-on-chassis you just lift it

[jagged sentinel]

It's a truck so it's a body-on-frame, which means... well... Look at the picture

[hybrid charm]

indeed

as i’m aware he loved the 4 series of Audi

[hybrid charm]

screw driver ofc

all u need is plastic screwdriver n some motivation

[jagged sentinel]

There's a little more to it than that

[hybrid charm]

HOW CAN I FORGET THE DRINK SMH

and an energy drink and ya should be ready

[jagged sentinel]

Can't forget the monster or red bull

[hybrid charm]

both shitty 😭

red bull is nice tho

[jagged sentinel]

I prefer monster

[hybrid charm]

normal tastes weird

[jagged sentinel]

Both are awful for you but like

[hybrid charm]

monster has ton of variety so 😄

[hybrid charm]

not even that bad

[jagged sentinel]

If you say so

[hybrid charm]

pretty much it won’t stunt ur growth or shit like that

it’s literally an energy boost with sugar

coca cola is equally the same in sugar tbf

but let’s keep chat transpiration 😄

[jagged sentinel]

Something something heart problems and blood pressure problems

Anyway

[hybrid charm]

if u drink a shit ton lmfao

[jagged sentinel]

This is a tech school for car people
Energy drinks are fucking everywhere

I can't drink them most days anyway because it doesn't play nice with my medication

[mental narwhal]

Whats that fighter jet on ur pfp?

I legit forgor

[jagged sentinel]

F-15E

[mental narwhal]

Ah

[jagged sentinel]

See about me

[mental narwhal]

Hahaha nice

Well nice to meet u f--15E

[hybrid charm]

pretty much LMFAO

[hybrid charm]

insane aura

dropping a fucking nuclear bomb is insane

F15 series was ahead of its time

shot a satellite aswell

what else

kill:death ratio is INSANE

participated sm through middle east wars

and pretty sure it bombed a heli with a guided bomb 😭

[jagged sentinel]

Against mostly inferior aircraft in a pretty one-sided air war tbf but still

[hybrid charm]

well yeah

still has aura

F22 atm has the most aura

[jagged sentinel]

It's a very capable, very storied and very versatile platform

That is undeniable

[hybrid charm]

F15 Or F22?

[jagged sentinel]

F15

[hybrid charm]

yeah it’s amazing

somewhat holds up today

[jagged sentinel]

The F22 is purpose built to rule the skies

[hybrid charm]

looks modern aswell

[hybrid charm]

stealth missions aswell

[jagged sentinel]

Well yeah

[hybrid charm]

well that’s the B-2 spirit

[jagged sentinel]

But it's primarily an air superiority fighter

[hybrid charm]

the dorito plane

[hybrid charm]

and does it the best

Typhoon is also pretty good

Typhoon is prob my fav jet

[jagged sentinel]

Low radar helps it slot at long range, which is where most fights are settled before they really begin

[hybrid charm]

or the Jas 39

[hybrid charm]

pretty much F22 wins bc it can detect far

long range winner

[jagged sentinel]

As far as foreign fighters go, the Rafale is my favorite

[hybrid charm]

Rafale is awesome

i prefer the typhoon tho

[jagged sentinel]

It's very exotic looking and apparently capable enough to go toe to toe with a raptor

[hybrid charm]

Rafale?

[jagged sentinel]

Yes

[hybrid charm]

don’t doubt it

it’s capable fs

have you seen the new jet the uk and france is developing

not sure if it’s france and the uk but uk is involved

[jagged sentinel]

Isn't Rafale French lol

[hybrid charm]

yeah but there’s a 6th gen jet joint between uk and something else

the tempest

[jagged sentinel]

Ye

[hybrid charm]

joint by italy uk and japan

not the best but hopefully will be good

Japan and UK are carrying

[jagged sentinel]

I heard some rumors that Japan is allegedly going to potentially look into finalizing the YF23 and I would like that to be true but I know it isn't

[hybrid charm]

it prob isn’t

atm it’s better to develop 7th gen

F22 is in service for a few more years before it’s gone

[jagged sentinel]

Well we haven't made any 6th Gen fighters yet so that'll have to wait

[hybrid charm]

better to skip 6th gen

6th gen will be slightly upgraded 5th gen

like slightly

we have basically reached a halt in upgrades 😭

[jagged sentinel]

Most of these programs are probably highly highly classified so I'll take that with a grain of salt

[hybrid charm]

yeah

and then there’s the su-57

[jagged sentinel]

kek

[hybrid charm]

radar detection😭

bolts r a whole diff story

and then the camo

the blue is outdated and doesn’t help

[jagged sentinel]

"Stealth fighter"
"Exposed rivets"

[hybrid charm]

only will help in close combat situations

where that won’t happen

because of long range 😭

[jagged sentinel]

And if that happens both pilots already fucked up

[hybrid charm]

pretty much

it’s built to counter the F22

a jet that’s for long range lmfao

i mean the camo is nice tho that’s no lie

[jagged sentinel]

Russia makes good looking fighters

[hybrid charm]

i main the Su57 in ac7 lmao

only bc it looks amazing

[jagged sentinel]

It has thrust vectoring and a bunch of other goodies for dogfight

[hybrid charm]

it’s the radar and stealth capabilities holding it back

exposed wooden screw lmfao

i would love an F22 level capability into an Su57 body

oh yh sos if my knowledge is abit lacking on jets i used to be obsessed with them and somehow stopped

[jagged sentinel]

The YF23 was better suited for long range than the YF22, from what little we know

[hybrid charm]

Yf23 looks good

[jagged sentinel]

Plus it just looks genuinely alien and thus genuinely cool

[hybrid charm]

it’s scary how we r basically almost at alien level in tech

lmfao

[jagged sentinel]

It was way more advanced than the YF22, which ironically was one of the factors that led to its rejection

[hybrid charm]

let me guess

it was to expensive

[jagged sentinel]

It's Northrop dawg

They aren't exactly known for being cost-efficient

[hybrid charm]

pretty sure one B2 spirit is like what

10 bil

[jagged sentinel]

2 billion per unit iirc

[hybrid charm]

aha

[jagged sentinel]

And the cost of the project had like 2 different cost overruns

[hybrid charm]

maintenance adds up tho

[hybrid charm]

we got flying missing pixels in the end tho

pretty sure i seen there bringing back the A10 😭

but ofc upgraded

[jagged sentinel]

It was faster, stealthier and had a higher operating range iirc

The stealth tricks in the bodywork were also more numerous and effective

I think the neatest one that I can remember is that the intake side of the engines were completely obstructed by the shape of the intakes so the heatsig from the front was lower

[hybrid charm]

i only know the Yf-23 bc of ac7 lmao

yk what i might get ac7 back now

i haven’t played for a year

[jagged sentinel]

Likewise

[jagged sentinel]

Radar signature was reduced as well

[hybrid charm]

aha

Jets r cool

[jagged sentinel]

yis

[hybrid charm]

why is it always the US going above beyond on jets

[jagged sentinel]

Because we can and we have some of the best minds in the world for it

And the money

lol

[hybrid charm]

well

that’s debatable

there in debt to countries but realistically what will they do

[jagged sentinel]

We have like double the defense budget of the next country on the list

[hybrid charm]

yeah

nato is us owned aswell

[jagged sentinel]

I'm not sure about "owned"

[hybrid charm]

well founded

[jagged sentinel]

We were one of the founding members yes

[hybrid charm]

but they own it basically

there the strongest in nato sooooo

and the richest

and one of the most useful

[jagged sentinel]

We supply like half of NATO's roster with jets and equipment anyway

[hybrid charm]

yep

[jagged sentinel]

Fun fact about the relationship with the US and NATO

The FN FAL was originally designed to have an intermediate cartridge

But the US said no so they redesigned it for a full-size .308

Fucking baller move

[hybrid charm]

LMAO😭

If you combine all of europe to fight against US who would win

[jagged sentinel]

And then we didn't even adopt it anyway and chose the M14, which has the record for the shortest main service rifle service period of any such in the US iirc

[hybrid charm]

M14 is a hell yeah

[jagged sentinel]

It was terrible apparently

[hybrid charm]

it looks cool tho

right if all of europe came together to fight the us

[jagged sentinel]

It was in service for 7 years

[hybrid charm]

i think the first thing that would happen is Balkans having their own war 😭

[hybrid charm]

what’s the main battle rifle that’s the most common atm

still the M16?

[jagged sentinel]

I'm going to assume you mean the standard issue rifle since Battle Rifle is technically it's own class of weapon

[hybrid charm]

yep standard issue

[jagged sentinel]

It's the M4 but its replacement has already been selected iirc

[hybrid charm]

ahh

[jagged sentinel]

The M14 and FAL were battle rifles

[hybrid charm]

ah got it

i have almost no knowledge on guns but can name a few

[jagged sentinel]

A modern example of a Battle Rifle is the FN SCAR

[hybrid charm]

LMFAO

fn scar

😭

gold scar

[jagged sentinel]

Ok the short version is that battle rifles are "full-size" calibers like .308 and Assault Rifles are "Intermediate" calibers like 5.56 and 7.62x39

[hybrid charm]

got it

battle rifles are better basically

[jagged sentinel]

Eh

[hybrid charm]

well

😭

[jagged sentinel]

They hit harder and can generally be better at range

308/7.62×51 NATO (technically distinct but the rounds themselves are exactly the same size; weird relationship) is a popular DMR bullet

[hybrid charm]

aha dmr

i like .22

there weak but sound good

[jagged sentinel]

I haven't shot a gun in years

I want to

[hybrid charm]

i can’t here

it’s expensive if i can tho

[jagged sentinel]

It's expensive but my dad knows people and has a few guns himself

Shooting a 50 BMG is on my bucket list but the round itself is expensive and the guns that are chambered for it are expensive and rare

[hybrid charm]

i want to shoot a mini gun lmfao

[jagged sentinel]

That would also be very cool

[kind osprey]

They cost like $2000 for a few minutes

😭

[hybrid charm]

more

[kind osprey]

They were doing it in Nevada but my dad said it was like $2000 for such a small amount of time

[hybrid charm]

ahh

uk would be more

rare gun rare bullet and rare to find a shooting range

[jagged sentinel]

I mean even in the US, miniguns are either prohibitively expensive or just illegal to own to boot

Depending on the state I think there are some things you can do to get access but

[mental narwhal]

i guess florida is the one u can get access to it?

idk iv heard crazy shit about florida so i just assumed

[jagged sentinel]

The only state I know for a fact that lets people or organizations to own weapons like that is Nevada

[mental narwhal]

huh didnt know

iv seen a video i think of a shooting range in nevada

and the dude was firing a minigun

[jagged sentinel]

And apparently Arizona, given the existence of the Big Sandy Shoot

[jagged sentinel]

Google it, it's absolutely wild

[kind osprey]

Idk anybody who personally owns one but there is a special shooting range with one

But yea, expensive as fuck

[mental narwhal]

wallet go brrrrrr

[kind osprey]

Literally

[jagged sentinel]

Wallet? Nah bro you need a whole vault

[jagged sentinel]

I also wonder what kind of specialized equipment you need to service it, too

And how difficult it is to acquire said hardware

[mental narwhal]

They probably got contacts upon contacts

Contractors weapons dealers or the military

Still hella expensive

[jagged sentinel]

Or where to get like another barrel or failed component

[jagged sentinel]

The government probably keeps tabs on people who own high-grade weaponry like that anyway

[mental narwhal]

Prob the feds who do that

[jagged sentinel]

Well duh

[mental narwhal]

Probably transactions aswell

[jagged sentinel]

They're probably who authorize the purchases and/or provide parts or provide a contact to get them

[kind osprey]

If you have enough money they'll probably let you shoot anything

[mental narwhal]

I mean yeah

[mental narwhal]

And they probably send a watch party

Making sure everything goes to plan

[jagged sentinel]

I believe battlefield Vegas is run by armed forces personnel

[jagged sentinel]

I can think of a few things

[mental narwhal]

Like a private army?

[steady cove]

wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww

[jagged sentinel]

No as in US Military personnel

[mental narwhal]

Ohhg

[hybrid charm]

@jagged sentinel back on ac7 and i’m still ruling

i won 5 games already

[jagged sentinel]

I don't think I've ever done the multiplayer in that game

[hybrid charm]

ahh it’s hard at first

it’s all abt upgrades

[drowsy folio]

i was shit at ac7 multiplayer lmao

it's such a different game

[hybrid charm]

qaam is ur best friend

only downside is u will be hated

[drowsy folio]

qaam and sasm yeah

[quartz pumice]

😮‍💨

Never saw one in person till today

[jagged sentinel]

Blob car

[quartz pumice]

There were a lot of beautiful cars

[kind osprey]

https://www.thedrive.com/news/tech/lotus-elise-revived-as-super-fast-charging-ev-sports-car

If these numbers are accurate this is pretty impressive

5 minute charge, 150 miles range though but still 5 minutes to charge it damn

Weighs only 2700 pounds

This may be an ev I can actually enjoy

The back looks goofy though idk why they would do that

[onyx rivet]

bro thinks he's Coil Voltic

Penned by the Elise's original designer
sounds poetic that he should ruin it as well

[kind osprey]

Lol

[grim field]

I wish it looked more lotus like

[drowsy folio]

this custom is sick

[jagged sentinel]

Dear God that's either a really small battery or insanely good cooling

There's a reason EVs take as long as they do to charge

[vestal garnet]

Is that a Supra?

[kind osprey]

It's the first one

It only has a 150 mile range

The battery is about a third of the size of your typical tesla or regular ev

But hey, the benefit of a tiny ass battery is that it somehow weighs 2700 pounds

[onyx rivet]

simplify, then add batteries

[kind osprey]

Lmao

[dire shard]

add batteries

there is no second step

[sage roost]

so basically

do a lap of nords

[hybrid charm]

boom

[sage roost]

Charge battery

then do another lap

[hybrid charm]

LMFAO

[sage roost]

I may have changed my opinion on the gran coupe

(Not my pic)

[dire shard]

asphalt grey

[sage roost]

🅱️ardo grey/gray

[quartz pumice]

Yes lmfao

[gusty roost]

Yo guys, in terms of Racing, what's the Best AWD Ratio for each/all kind(s) of Racing?

[kind osprey]

you'd want more rear or more forward in grip scenarios

and closer to 50%-50% in rally and offroad

Most awd performance cars are like 30% front 70% back or a little more

[dire shard]

boredom grey

[gusty roost]

Why's that?

[gusty roost]

Let's suppose a completely flat track, with a lot of corners, but a lot of straights too

[kind osprey]

it doesn't have anything to do with the track layout

it has all to do with the track surface

rally cars and offroaders simply drift through turns and need each wheel to have power

so a center differential with power distributed evenly makes more sense in these scenarios

but on a track if you use an awd layout with way too much center bias you will create understeer and not be able to control as well

[onyx rivet]

about time

except the problem now starts with you liking nerdo grey

oscar in the #transportation channel is a rare sight indeed

[dire shard]

audi: haudi, you called?

[gusty roost]

Because rn I'm interested in some IRL Vehicles Stuff

[gusty roost]

What's Center Bias?

[onyx rivet]

bias of weight towards the centre of the vehicle

[gusty roost]

i tried google-ing, i'm pretty sure i failed somehow...

[onyx rivet]

literally add the word 'cars' to either the front or the end of the search result oscar

[gusty roost]

understandable

so, i have a question now

is pretty much obvious that the Driver weights

are their cars made for their specific weight in order to mantain a balance between both sides of the vehicle?, because front and rear are not the only dimentional directions

speaking on cars where the seats are not in the middle

let's forget LeMans here

[onyx rivet]

its been a long time since LeMan race cars were allowed to have their seats in the middle of the cockpit

[gusty roost]

i'm outdated, lemme be

but do mechanics have that in count?

because for my understanding, it is possible for a driver to steer better to one side than another just because the Driver gives more weight to that specific side

[onyx rivet]

not every car
the average manufacturerer making a passenger car would not even bother

[gusty roost]

so, 50 kg are not a difference on one side than another in Real Racing?

[onyx rivet]

i actually dont know the answer to that to be honest
i assume they do

[gusty roost]

then, wouldn't that be an advantage on for example, NASCAR Races?

if your weight is placed in the arithmetical center between the Wheels Bias, and above the Center Of Mass of the vehicle, while steering and making a centrifugal force, even when that weight is barely despicable, it's still there

[south tendon]

what do you guys think about these new MC20 special editions meant to celebrate the MC12

[gusty roost]

i don't like the Bright one

[dire shard]

i do like it

[south tendon]

the Vitaphone turqoise one is called Leggenda and the blue and white one is called Icona

[dire shard]

i really like the white one

[gusty roost]

then i really like the Icona

[south tendon]

its quite nice

[gusty roost]

agree

[dire shard]

the mc12 was only available in that white-and-blue scheme, all the non-white-and-blue colourways are bespoke schemes that you needed to pay extra for

[onyx rivet]

the white-and-blue Icona one looks better and pulls of the retro livery idea more convincingly

[south tendon]

i think if the leggenda had vitaphone logos on the side it wouldve been nicer, since thats were the racing heritage of the mc12 lies at, but then again theres licensing and such

[onyx rivet]

the Leggenda doesnt work well

bright turquoise contrasting black with gold that's nearly yellow as trim accents arent good colour combinations

[south tendon]

i mean how else would they have done it

since its based on the mc12 race car

[onyx rivet]

either with leaving out the yellow bits to improve it or not doing it at all

they could have only done the Icona edition only and it still would have been great

[south tendon]

i think they did the yellow bits because the race car had yellow mirrors in its time

[onyx rivet]

the coloured mirrors and other accents on many other racecars are there to differentiate the drivers because a team could have two or more cars rocking the same livery

they could have made the MC20 Leggenda's yellow accents turquoise, red or black as well

[sterile kayak]

I love left foot braking on my manual

[shadow valve]

This is beautiful

[gusty roost]

[jagged sentinel]

NASCARs used to have more asymmetrical setups but this new next gen car is built to be a bit more modern and symmetrical

Minus the seat position, which is still near the left side

[gusty roost]

But that seat still weighs, right?

That requires a lot of calculations

Or extreme vectorial speed in order to be annulated by the centrifugal force

[jagged sentinel]

what

[static gale]

lateral ballast exists

[dire shard]

it doesn't really matter to most forms of racing, it's kind of like the last thing you think about
in a sports car, they might tune the balance to compensate for a driver of a specific weight, with no passenger and a specific fuel level(probably half)
in a race car, you have a specific line-up of drivers so you can do it exactly

where's it matter? f1 probably, but they're doing 3x the speed of a normal car and pulling a whole G more

[dire shard]

they'd have to just not make it

that neon turquoise colour is impossible

[gusty roost]

That makes a lot of sense

So, returning to my main question, then a good ratio of AWD would be something like 33/67 or something?, kinda?

[dire shard]

why so weird

a majority that i see are 30/70

[gusty roost]

So AWD Ratios are always Multiples of 5?

[dire shard]

no, but that's just what i see most cars use

did you want to be ✨ q u i r k y ✨ and have prime numbers in your ratio? otherwise, following the masses can't be wrong

[sage roost]

Why is it so hard to say 35/65

[drowsy folio]

what i think he implied is 1/3rd front 2/3rd rear

[kind osprey]

A ratio like that wouldn't be necessary really

It's just performance based like what someone wants out of the vehicle

So people do 80 rear 20 front

Companies like Toyota have front bias awd where it's more in the front

[dire shard]

https://tenor.com/view/haudi-howdy-gif-24154337

ironically the r8 is the one audi with rear bias awd

15/85 normally to 30/70 if detecting traction loss

everything else audi makes is like, 60/40

[kind osprey]

Audi's original system was front wheel drive, Quattro was a kick in the rear literally for rally traction lol

[dire shard]

in a world of awd systems pretending to be awd but the rear being decoupled and the car being fwd 99% of the time, subaru symmetrical all-time awd my beloved

[kind osprey]

Lmao

[nimble mist]

i like lambos

[drowsy folio]

hello chicken!

[hybrid charm]

chicken likes lambos 👍

[nimble mist]

hey

how are u

[vapid slate]

Grilled chicken best.

[steady cove]

You wrote breast wrong

[patent arrow]

i think you should wear shoes

[static gale]

The crocs aren't in sport mode

[hybrid charm]

jus a suggestion!!!

[sage roost]

The duality of person

[nimble mist]

hey

[granite lotus]

Sell the Acadia and cyber truck for a model s performance

[nimble mist]

you follow me around

[granite lotus]

No I don’t

What are you on

[nimble mist]

the commuity

[granite lotus]

Your weird

[nimble mist]

no

[hybrid charm]

or sell both and buy race car

[rocky oar]

I am wearing crocs, I just wanted to go out quick and start the engine and rev it

[drowsy folio]

i love this image, it's indescribable how many itches this scratches all at once, but it makes so many more new itches

[drowsy folio]

MX helmet for a street bike

[sage roost]

https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1998-dodge-viper-gts-gt2-championship-edition-6/

what a fucking bargain

3600 mile limited edition first gen viper for $80k

[fiery minnow]

high HD car vs low HD car

[loud spade]

I got 800 bucks should be close enough right

https://tenor.com/view/ah-yes-the-negotiator-the-negotiator-general-kenobi-general-grievous-star-wars-gif-23623581

[sterile kayak]

I’ve got $9

Together we have $809

[kind osprey]

This would have been $45,000 in 2018 😭

I need to get me a viper fast

[sage roost]

but it’s a special edition

not your regular first gen

[kind osprey]

Yea, regulars were $30,000

[sage roost]

what are regulars like now

[kind osprey]

Probably 40-50

[sage roost]

dew it

[kind osprey]

60 if it's immaculate

[sage roost]

buy the Miata with no driver aids and a V10

[kind osprey]

I'm getting a Lotus first

I can honestly see the Lotus Elise become like a crazy icon in 50 years and being worth a shit ton

Like original cobras

[sage roost]

I tried looking for lotuses but there are 0 elises here

Like none

[kind osprey]

Shit

Aren't you in Europe?

They are made there 💀

[sage roost]

No

[bold horizon]

@kind osprey Did i ever show you what my new car looks like?

[kind osprey]

Oh cool you got a new car?

I never saw it

[bold horizon]

Yeah!

In December!

[kind osprey]

Nice

[bold horizon]

These photos are from when I first got it.

But I love it

[kind osprey]

Your last one was a chevy too right?

I remember either that or a Grand Cherokee

[bold horizon]

It was a chevy sonic

I got automatic windows now haha

[vestal garnet]

[drowsy folio]

did they keep the stock wing

[dull folio]

They're already pretty expensive

Problem is the S1 has a shit Rover engine and the S2 costs 30k+

[drowsy folio]

weird choice

[surreal saffron]

This car is raw.

[nimble mist]

hey

[surreal saffron]

James Dean has raffled his Silvia btw

I bought 10 tix

This yoke

Normally don't raffle but hey

Never know

It's not that bad lol. My neighbour won a Chaser off of them last year so they are legit

I love chasers

Amazing af car.

Proud Irishman to be fair.

One of the best. Best imo

Drift gods

Yeah that be him

We have a pair of bros here atm that are gonna rival him soon enough tbh

the Shanahan bros

They are actually dominating Drift Games here atm

I live 5 mins away from Mondello which makes me happy

They use it for drift events mostly now.

More popular for the Bike GP's etc

Not as often as they used to do it

But yeah it's a good track for race sunday's

Licensing and Insurance stopped a lot of races

Which is dumb

Like we have the Ulster GP etc yeah, but having a home track was one of the things we had

Ulster GP is kinda like the TT, but of course the TT is the mother of all bike races

We had a few Adam LZ drift events here at Mondello

Adam's?

Yeah he hosts a lot of events tbh

The one he did a while back was kinda meh tho tbh, it was blasting rain etc, and the seating was crap. But eh can't really complain when you smell rubber and hear spoolin

[deep python]

hi

[cyan furnace]

Yooo

Anyone can let me buy there car from. Ls?

[dire shard]

message #ps5｜vehicles-lfg, this channel is non-gta

[gritty pilot]

Yeah but not all cars do it afaik

[sage roost]

https://x.com/whatcar/status/1810222289713025534?s=46&t=DtvhcdCG8ywUmGuotpX6QA

What Car? (@whatcar) on X

REVEALED: 2025 Honda Prelude! 😱

👀 Hybrid power
🔥 Estimated 204bhp
🛞 Front-wheel drive as standard
🗓 2025
💷 £40,000 (est)

Thoughts?! 🤔

Twitter · Jul 8, 2024, 8:00 AM

ehhh

[onyx rivet]

hooo boy

that is a not a good angle

[sage roost]

bruhg

what is this trying to be

[onyx rivet]

a prius coupe

[sage roost]

looks like it

first thing I saw was that it was almost using Prius headlights

[onyx rivet]

even more flattering angles

[sage roost]

honestly

[onyx rivet]

i really wish i could at least like the exterior because there are some bits which i really like

[sage roost]

why buy this when you could get

A civic type r

[onyx rivet]

a honda civic but also in hybrid

oh rioght that

[sage roost]

comparable price

more power

doesn’t look like shit

[cyan furnace]

That’s Hyundais best car yet

[sage roost]

sir I don’t think that’s a Hyundai

[cyan furnace]

It is

[cyan furnace]

Look and the logo

At the front

[sage roost]

my guy

[cyan furnace]

Honda

Nvm

😭

[onyx rivet]

bruh

[cyan furnace]

I’m dumb

[sage roost]

[onyx rivet]

and i thought you were just joking about

https://vxtwitter.com/MTSElectrical1/status/1810293327649997078

[shy hare]

😎

[cyan furnace]

They have similar logos😪

[sage roost]

TIBURON

greatest car of all time

[onyx rivet]

yeah im not seeing the similarities of the tiburon and da prelude

[cyan furnace]

Soo is it a Honda or Hyundai

[sage roost]

but yeah I’m not either

[onyx rivet]

its a honda prelude

[vestal garnet]

hyundai prelude

[sage roost]

wait I just realized

it has 200hp WITH the electric motor?

[onyx rivet]

https://vxtwitter.com/jfoosg/status/1810239816187232747
uhhhhh
i would like whatever they are under the influence of

[cyan furnace]

Oh

Thanks

[onyx rivet]

its going to be showed off at the Goodwood festival of Speed

which to me felt like happened six months ago

no interior picture so i cant shit on the prelude some more

[sage roost]

chances are it’s the exact same interior from the civic

[onyx rivet]

oh in that case it might be alright

[sage roost]

more reason to just buy the civic

Lmao

[onyx rivet]

yeah when i learnt that there was a civic that came in hybrid, i also thought that

[static gale]

Not the GT-R, but the 350/370z

[static gale]

Reply broke ^

[dire shard]

hybrid powered?

now that's a pleasant surprise, no matter how ugly it is

i was expecting it to be electric, it was hyped up as an electric ever since it was first shown to the public

this could be the civic coupe we never got in the 11th gen 😎 imagine your civic the size of an accord

wonder what this means mazda's concept

everyone thought they'd compete

[sage roost]

civic coupe with a CVT

woohoo

[loud spade]

What’s with these CVT cars pretending to be normal automatics

Like I only found out by accident our car is a CVT (Nissane Rogue) because it depicts gear shifting and even has a "manual" mode

Kinda defeats the whole purpose of it no?

[sage roost]

ewwww

worst type of cvt

Nissan’s cvt is the worst

[loud spade]

It sucks

[sage roost]

as today my dad’s work Nissan Sentra exploded its transmission

couldn’t shift out of park

not the first, or the second, or the fifth time it’s happened

[loud spade]

Damn that's rough

Ours is still fine, almost 50k on it

[sage roost]

well my dad also drove 300k km in 10 years on that car

[drowsy folio]

300,000,000m, mental

[modern gazelle]

Never let bro cook

[dire shard]

now this is pod racing

[vestal garnet]

Since consumers did not like the rubberband effect so most manufacturers have added steps or fake gear shifts in CVT

[onyx rivet]

yeah people didnt like CVTs as a new idea because consumers werent used to it

kinda like modern indicator signals playing a noise through a speaker because people were so used to how older indicators work

[sterile kayak]

I would never drive a Prius

[dire shard]

picanto fans when they see this

i feel like i haven't seen these as taxis yet, actually

maybe people just haven't gotten them, or maybe there's a design change that made it less desirable for taxi services

[sterile kayak]

That is actually good looking

Prius C is horrible

[dire shard]

the prius c is beyond dead bruh

it got killed off so long ago i don't even remember it being a thing

[sterile kayak]

I think someone here drives a riced out accord

[drowsy folio]

every taxi in Leicester is a prius

every taxi in Cambridge is a passat

[sage roost]

there’s places that use Kia ev6s and Ioniq 5s as taxis

pretty cool

fully loaded Kia at that

[static gale]

Honda tail lights as headlights

[sterile kayak]

Skoda Octavias are the taxis around me

Then also ford mondeos

[sage roost]

the ev6 taxi I’ve been in had cooled seats and everything

weird to use that as a taxi tbh

[sterile kayak]

London black cabs are actually pretty comfortable taxis

Nissan Sentra Uber in Florida by a man called Dave with a car that stunk of weed was not nice

[kind osprey]

Fly

[nimble mist]

hi

[sage roost]

https://youtu.be/vI9_3Z8Fm5o

wake up babe, another electric crossover using an iconic car’s name

[night steeple]

fords done it again!

chebby aint far behind, come on make the bel-air ev crossover already lmao

[mint plank]

Raise

https://youtube.com/shorts/FjYsvNcixVU?si=78MxNcKPFu-0O4sM

[jagged sentinel]

They're going to turn the fiesta into a somehow-even-smaller maverick next, just watch

[sage roost]

or watch this

A maverick, but without the bed

🤯

[drowsy folio]

sooo this exists now

how do we feel about it

i think it's fucking cool

[static gale]

what is its purpose?

the front fogs confuse me

[willow barn]

car

[nimble mist]

hi

[onyx rivet]

da front fogs are for style

[onyx rivet]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8jNXtZs9yCs

[sage roost]

https://x.com/fordnewseurope/status/1811015013961978193?s=46&t=DtvhcdCG8ywUmGuotpX6QA

Ford News Europe (@FordNewsEurope) on X

Did you see it? The legend is back.

The new all-electric Ford Capri. ⚡️

Discover more 👇
https://t.co/JBhlChJ3ku

#FordCapri #TheLegendIsBack #JeSuisCapri #ElectricVehicle #EV

Twitter · Jul 10, 2024, 12:30 PM

nah they’re fucking with us

“Did you see it? The legend is back.”
“The new all-electric Ford RS200.”
/s

[jagged sentinel]

God I'd be insulted for driving what Ford considers the "new RS200"

[sage roost]

to be very fair and honest

the “mustang” Mach-E is a good car

just NOT a mustang obviously.

[sage roost]

oops.

[modern gazelle]

That cannot be an RS200

No fucking way

Wtf

[sage roost]

it’s not

hence the “/s”

[modern gazelle]

I have no idea what that means

[sage roost]

sarcasm

[modern gazelle]

Ah

[sage roost]

yeah

[modern gazelle]

I wouldn't be surprised if ford did that

[sage roost]

well they made the Puma a small hatchback, the mustang and the capri as electric SUV’s

[drowsy folio]

homologation car, probably WRC next year

looks like it'll fit comfortably in R2

[drowsy folio]

tf happened and are they okay

[sage roost]

https://vxtwitter.com/zonb99/status/1811425922077081816?s=46&t=DtvhcdCG8ywUmGuotpX6QA

[drowsy folio]

oh it's an evija

fuckin hell

[static gale]

Ahh

[surreal saffron]

I would not like to be that driver for many reasons.

[kindred summit]

Ah cool

[minor pine]

would like to own a retired one of these at some point

but theyre getting harder and harder to find

[sage roost]

GT3RS with the manthey racing kit without the camo

[onyx rivet]

bruh

i join the Goodwood FOS livestream and i see karun chandhok driving a v10 bmw f1 car

and then it dies halfway

yeah

[sage roost]

V10 bmw engine still unreliable /s

[viscid mantle]

Gt4rs > Gt3rs change my mind

[sage roost]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/934169337680498718/1261440486535725156/image0.jpg?ex=6692f780&is=6691a600&hm=4bc71cbb71d3b148df7f6c283540a4dfe19c4a6f024db760307e989717f4c1fe&

the temptation is REAL

[obtuse urchin]

hhhhhhh

[modern gazelle]

https://youtu.be/nhDMTsoKIFM?si=WZnYv-fqN-onQDHO

[dire shard]

https://tenor.com/view/moai-rock-dwayne-johnson-eyebrow-бровь-gif-4651136246970677137

[onyx rivet]

more goodwood
https://www.youtube.com/live/ZCOGiKu7NeU?si=4GqUjXirvPc6pAYB

betterwood

[drowsy folio]

i need some good wood tbf

got some projects I wanna work on

[kind osprey]

That's a weird take ngl

The gt3 rs is objectively better in performance but they are both cool vehicles

[sage roost]

meh I like both

but the current GT3RS is way too overkill for normal use

If it was up to me I’d rather have the normal GT3

[dire shard]

every gt3rs was overkill for normal use

[sage roost]

nah all I need is the frunk

give me the 991.2 3RS I WILL daily it

lmao

[kind osprey]

That is thankfully the point of the car

Anyone buying it knows what they are getting into

[sage roost]

well yeah

but

if I had to pick a car to use both as a track toy and a daily, it would be the 992 GT3.

Specifically with the MR kit

performance difference is negligible compared to the 3RS and it’s just a bit more practical

obviously it’s not as practical as a normal sedan but hear me out

[dull folio]

If we're talking 992, I would get the GT3 Touring in manual

Otherwise a 997.2 GT3 or GTS

[sage roost]

just get the regular GT3 without the cage smh my head

[dull folio]

I prefer the clean look of the Touring, not a fan of the swan neck spoiler

[nimble mist]

hi

[tawny belfry]

Hu

[nimble mist]

hey

[tawny belfry]

Hi

[mental lion]

This car was supposed to be made by aston martin

[modern gazelle]

It exists

It took inspiration

The creator is the same

He designed around 10 winning F1 cars

[modern gazelle]

Is that the car's suspension?

But fr tho that's some crazy shit

[kind osprey]

That's the engine

[modern gazelle]

Nope

That's the exhaust manifold

[drowsy folio]

incorrect

it's clearly the front right tyre

[modern gazelle]

It's clearly the Blow Off Valve

[mental lion]

Yep thats adrian newey

[kind osprey]

Him and Gordon Murray would be a sick podcast/conversation

[mental lion]

Yea fr

Industry goats

[modern gazelle]

True

[modern gazelle]

Cosworth is on fire recently

[mental lion]

The f1 team?

[modern gazelle]

No

[kind osprey]

Cosworth is an engine manufacturer

They made the gma's v12 that revs to over 12,000rpm

[mental lion]

Yea but an older one

?

[mental lion]

Thats crazy tbh

[modern gazelle]

They make great stuff