#8 O'Clock / RATS - THREAD FULL
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i thought it didnt matter which statues go where but i think they do matter
i cant get past round 1
i got to round 3 once but died
they dont matter, you are messing something up. make sure you are killing all the rats before submitting, make sure you are counting them correctly. If you are failing round 1 the zap damage you get if you divide it by 1123 you will get the rat number so you can check if you counted wrong
remember you are only counting rats, not catacomb rats
I did it finally thanks for the help.
I have gotten to the last step twice and each time I am killed. So much time invested . What am I doing wrong?
i took off all my gear and used auto attack with my fist
I just solved this puzzle. It is highly recommended to kill the catacomb rats as well, as they can step on or walk over the pressure plates and trigger them at the exact moment you submit one of your results, thus thwarting your attempt.
just used a weak aura for rat count and a macro targettingf rats
What does it mean if you hit a certain numer of rats....but the table only says the pad number and not how many statues you have to put in it?
no it sayys both
If the number of rats is more that 10 - you have problems. If you only see one number in a cell of teh table - you are using an old chart: look in the pins for a more up to date one. The most likely answer is 1 statue on whatever number the table has - but it is better to find a more complete table.
how do i solve the candy crush puzzle?
A tip for the classes with pets. You can use those for activating the pressure plates in the same way the statues work. Makes some of the running a bit easier.
yeah, but only if your pets don't despawn on plates. that will cause them to bug out
Found out why I had problems on lock 4 (3 rats) - so on another plate a rat had died - despawned... but was still lit up, so watch that one.
Also I waited 15 minutes between locks - and the Catacomb Rats had not yet respawned... not sure about that because I thought the general time frame for critters was 5-15 minutes.
i have heard a few times recently that cata rats don't respawn now - never heard that a rat's dead body could trigger the plate and then break it when it despawns - but good to know
Is anyone else struggling with this like i am?
so wait till they off the plate to kill - don't dismiss pets when they are on plates (including don't spec demo lock for this)
@last juniper what's happening?
im on my first round had a total of 2 rats, yes regular rats not catacomb rats place a statue on P2 and hit submit and get shocked. I had gotten to round 4 one time my first time but now cant make it past round 1.
using the macro to target all the rats?
yes, even go through the dungeon 2 times to double check.
you are removing the old staues from pads? you aren't using BEGIN after the once at start?
Nope only submit and yes also removing statues.
you are sure you are on the right Lock number - machine tells you how many to go - 7 means Lock 1
Do statues matter?
or can any statue be used on any pedastal as long as the quantity is correct?
all are the same - onoy count on single pad matters
64 tries - finally got it. Be careful of rats dying on the pressure plates.
Pull the BEGIN lever, then the SUBMIT lever
Count and kill all regular Rats dungeon-wide
Kill (but don't count) all Catacomb Rats dungeon-wide
Move statues to the correct plate (remove statues from previous plates)
Pull the SUBMIT lever (Do NOT pull the begin lever again)
Return to step 2
@last juniper this is the process you are following?
i mean, you got to later locks so i have no clue what's broken now
@last juniper if you still can't solve lock 1 then i suggest that you go out and reset instance and start fresh
I had one plate that was glitching - reset half a dozen times... also I am a destro lock - made sure that I used ONLY Conflig. - Used the macros to target both rats and cat.rats - ... just had to be extra careful to NOT have a pet out, and to not kill a rat on ANY pressure plate.
finally made it to round 3 XD
pets are fine - i did it aff with pet - but demo has imps that regularly despawn - but being careful with this puzzle is a great idea
you got this!
anyone else have an issue with the crystal connections? i cant teleport into the room. it literally teleports me ontop of the door frame...
@torn frigateyou have the wrong crystal targeted - look for the purple on on floor - right side
To reach plate 3 with a statue in tow, drag it to the Humming Crystal gate, target the purple Humming Crystal inside the room, then use the [Relic of Crystal Connections] to port in. The statue will tag along. Exit the room by repeating the process with the green crystal above the gate outside.
ahh .i see. ty
how does this shit works? so if u dont have 4 statues + you and 2 friends youre fucked?
my brain hurts... think ima pause and do this another day.
@torn frigate now yoou know the process it will go smoothly after a break - no rush
ya.; hopefully i can figure out the rats and statue stuff.
tryin to understand it reading the docs and such
i mean they have got nowhere on 9 o'clock
what's confusing? the process is pretty clear and simple
ive read it. lol. ill give it a try tomorrow.
thanks for help with crystal. im at least set up to start tryin.
i t got active when one of your imps was on it then despawn - swap to aff
you "might" be able to fix it - try running aver it - but you may need an instance reset
no.
So use that grid..
At the top will be the lock number.
On the side is the number of rats.
So if you have 4 rats on lock one, you move ONE statue to pressure plate 4.
For lock 2, if you have 9 rats - you move THREE statues on to pressure plate 4...
and so on.
(also btw- I was unable to do this in a group.)
Don't forget to remove the statues between locks.
gouping is fine but it is best if only one person does the killing rats and uses the machine
got it!
would some1 help me maybe about the rats? i guess i am too stupid to read the table
https://wago.io/oS8xU2rs_/3 this weak aura worked amazingly well thank you guys
sure - i can check for you
use the weak aura at start of puzzle then it counts the rats you kill and tells you how many statues on each location you then just need to look at locations on the map and forget the table mate. Hope it helps
guys update the documents they have is fake use the weak aura finished in 5mins
@long quarry what is fake? what an odd hit and run comment
and updating pinned is not possible - this is a full thread - the pinned WA is useful though
how do you get into the room with the p3 button?
To reach plate 3 with a statue in tow, drag it to the Humming Crystal gate, target the purple Humming Crystal inside the room, then use the [Relic of Crystal Connections] to port in. The statue will tag along. Exit the room by repeating the process with the green crystal above the gate outside.
goat,thank you
I keep hearing about "Rats" and "Catacomb Rats" it's confusing because all I have ever seen are "Rats" π€ So should I just whack everything?
literally came to the discord about to ask, Thank you π€£ i was like i dont remember the door being able ot be opened yet via arcane device or anything
anyone grouping for this?
I kept reading that the cata rats dont respawn. Until I was on my second to last lock and realized the rat I had just killed said catacombs rat. Luckily, I back tracked to recount and realized before I got too far. I don't know if I was taking an incredibly long time or if I just drew that (un)lucky straw so be warned! It can happen! This was around the hour to 1 hour and 15 minute mark of being in the instance without leaving and being zapped...a few too many times. 
if anyone needs help give me a yell
Is progress for this locked on one char or can you use other toons? Just curious, apologies if it's been asked before
since it requires soulbound items - same character
Makes sense, dunno why I didn't think of that. Thank you for answering!
i am aware of some doing the whole thing on multiple characters for checking purposes - i am not one π
I was on lock #4 and a pressure plate (specifically #2- the doorway to the mount) was glowing with no statues, no me, no pets (warlock), no rats were killed near it, seemingly nothing to cause a blue glow.... so it failed. Known bug? Am I blind?
couldn't get it stop so I just failed to get it to reset
@tidal gorge something must have despawned on it - i see you know about other pets - never heard of them breaking without something there (toys etc) - unless you can fix the pad you need to reset (it'll go quicker this time)
Hmm I'll try to be more careful next time, maybe there was a rat at one point but I don't remember killing one right there... I did go right into it after 8 o'clock and so my brain is fried for the night I think lol
lol - i know what you mean - watchers is a bit of a drain - there is no rush - 9 is not going fast
Might give it a few days. New reset, new me and all...π
I managed to get to 7 then i forgot the status on the other plate.. i failed it at the last part and now i cant get past part 4 =/ anyone has the same issue ? i have tried 5 times and i search and kill every single rat i check all the spots to be clean but still die to the thunder and i have the Correct answer from the table =/
did you re-start from Lock 1?
what...goes...on...plate...if...no...number...is..on...lie..1...on...1...or...2..on...6...it...just...has..single...number...7...I...foun...9...rats
thats...what..I..thought...tyvm..Sugga<3
is your spacebar broken? π
Yes i did reset the dungeon and started from scratch
Maybe I kinda dumb but I dont get the instructions .. I start the machine click in submit kill all the rats on the map and then move the statues to the plates. what the heck mean 1 on P1 .. 1 on P2 ???
that is the statue and that is the plate?
according to the table, the number of killed rats, determine the number of statues in which position.
- you can also place 4 statues on 1
- rataj only rats named rats not catacomb rats
- after pressing submit, you will rat the rats again, etc
- don't forget to put away the statues from the position when you make a new position
example, if you kill 10 rats, you get 2 statues at position 3
wheres the guy i buy for the hate and muffin from?
After doing 7 o'lock, I can no longer enter the Karazhan Catacombs, any one else have this problem?
Did you remember to light your torch of pyrreth? You can't enter without the torch on
Just figured that out, had lost the torch buff. thanks though π
Hello guys! Anyone can help me, please?
2 Status in position 3 (10 rats), but I'm using Relic of Crystal Connections and nothing happened to the door... I can't get in, I'm teleported out
I was also unsure if it could be any statue or did it have to be specific?
You have to target the crystal and use the relic
The purple crystal to go in and the green one above to get out
Oh got it
Ty
So this is updated?
I mean, in LOCK 3 I failed three times
But I'm sure I placed the right amount of statues
Only press "begin" once at the start after that you just submit once you have the # of rats then remove the statues kill rats count and submit, never press begin again
and use the Weakaura - https://wago.io/oS8xU2rs_
Oh I got it!
Tyvm for your help π
I killed 10 rats. Put 2 statues on plate #3 (it turned green), hit SUBMIT.. and zap. Incorrect.
No idea what I'm doing wrong.
maybe a miscount - how many locks have you been successful with?
did you kill all catacomb rats?
I ended up resetting the instance. Starting over with the macro and WA and took my time doing everything. Unlocked the big door at the end of the hall. Read the poem. Waiting for a clue. :)
it is often the way - things mess up, but then you sail straight through - grats!
@shadow birch
im stuck in the arcane room
hi all, hopefully a quick question. I'm on lock number 5, the google docs sheet is telling me for 6 rats, it's 3 statues on number 4. however the weakauras is telling me 2 statues on 3, which one is likely to be more correct?
I went with weakauras and it was right!
Is my thing bugged? its showing i have 3 locked mechanisms but i havent unlocked any yet?
shouldn't it be 7?
there seems to have been a change to this puzzle with this week's maintenance - several reports that failing a round doesn't reset the locks to 7 to go - but starting again with Lock 1 from the table works as normal but only have to do 3 total
the text on the machine telling how many locks to go breaks too
I can confirm that this puzzle has changed with the reset. I was working on it last night - managed to get 4 locks done, but got zapped on the 5th lock. Went to bed, and this morning only had to do 3 locks.
3 locks to solve seems to be current experience - may get a hotfix
YES...UNLOCKS...ON...THIRD...SUCCESS!!π
i did first one correctly, second failed and i got zapped and next 3 correct and the great lock is unlocked
DId 4 correct now and it opened the great lock π
uhm, i only did 3 locks and the great lock has been released. Did it bug it somehow or did it count the stuff i did before resetting the instance?
There has been a hotfix to reduce the amount of unlocks needed to only 3, not 7. The chart should still work, you only need to use the the info from the first 3 columns, though.
oh awesome
Curious: Has anyone else unlocked orb 8 with only 4 locks....and had the pressure pads still working after?
Never mind...I see it was a hotfix
hello, i dont have the "relic of crystal connections" item to open door. Any1 know whats wrong?
you need to buy it in Booty Bay with the 9 pieces of hate and the muffin you got from previous steps
@abstract steeple ty!
I didnt start this but as my enigma machine says there are 3 locked mechanisms
Does this mean that I should only do 3
nvm just saw the message above
In case you haven't found it yet: https://discord.com/channels/223122687227199489/1309152103750438962
If you're in the instance by yourself....and there are only 5 statues. And the solution has you using 1, 2 and 3. You have to move back to the machine, so does it count just for you having run over it?
I think I don't understand how this is meant to work. I keep following the wowhead article and I've gotten zapped twice despite doing what it says.
in case you didn't work it out - each round needs you to put the number of statues on just the one indicated pad
@abstract steeple did they ever figure out how they got the answer or was it them finding out the pattern?
it was observation with a lot of trial and error at the start - the solver found the rats and recorded the count - essentially solving for lock 1 each time
some were successful and gave the magnifying glass and unlock emote
so count the rats and try each platform with differing numbers of statues - also trying the same number with previous results showing consistency - pretty much solved lock 1's solution - then more trial and error for the next locks and formulating the solution
a lot of work
I've reset the instance twice now. Every single time I get the "10 rats" and have to put 2 statues on pressure plate 3 I get zapped and it resets. The pressure plate has a green aura on it (same as if i put 1 statue and i stand on the plate) but it keeps failing and im kind of at a loss
I'm using the WeakAura and the macro to validate this
I'm not sure the weakaura has been updated after the nerf from 7 locks to 3. try using an updated sheet (like on the wiki) https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Keys_to_Incognitro,_the_Indecipherable_Felcycle#8_o'clock:_Enigma
They all seem to say with 10 rats you put 2 statues (or a combination of players/statues) on plate 3....yet I get zapped every time and it resets
are you counting regular rats or catacomb rats?
Regular rats. Catacombs rats have been all killed and not counted
At this point Im just using the weak aura to count rats, but even if i manually count them it adds up
Its like if i get 10 rats im screwed
Ugh, now I'm just getting random failures when following the table's. This is frustrating
Anyone still working on this mind if I tag along?
what happened to felcycle 9 channel or the main felcycle channel? i can no longer see em
thx
@snow cipher
how do i get to pad 3?? it's behind a gate
click on the cristal inside the room and when selected use your cristal item you got from orb 5 at the statue shoulder then youre in
and to leave it do the same process but with the cristal above the door outside the room, you can select it from the inside
lmao i never got that item
all done
although, why do the guides put up 7 locks but it completed after only 3?
I only completed 2 locks and the final door unlocked for me :S. could it be that previous lucky guesses worked?
They hotfixed it a week ago to only need 3 locks - many guides not updated
and reports that the weakaura also unreliable - double-check your rats count with the combat log and use table to find each round's statue solution
For new people coming in, updated weakaura string based on the original WeakAura (wago.io/oS8xU2rs_). Some modifications/notes:
- will always reset rats and try to go to the next lock stage if there is a rat counter
- if no rats on the counter (new), it updates lock number on gossip open (when you click on machine) to the number shown in the dialogue. If a wrong lock is show, click the machine again to update
- fixed scaling for only first 3 locks
thanks for updating
@worn marten you might want to remove the link to the old one though since it sort of dominates
you probably right. wanted to give credit lol. there we go
Agreed
literally nothing is working for me on this step
I have done it 13 times now . Made sure it was all clear. still got zapped every single time at 3rd lock. any chance it has been changed somehow ?
Are you sure you are following the process? common fault is using BEGIN more than just once at the beginning (it resets the whole thing each time)
how can i help?
The process:
- click begin
- click submit (to summon rats)
- count rats, move statues to the plates
- click submit
- remove previous statues
- count rats, move statues to the plates
- click submit
- remove previous statues
- count rats, move statues to the plates
- click submit and you are done
appreciate it, outdated WA was messing me up and all the guides are out of date
got it solved though
30 times and yes followed it by the letter... still on 3rd click I got zapped
are you using the old weakaura and are sure you aren't using BEGIN?
i can watch you stream if that that would help
I am streaMING, JUST GOING FOR 1 LOCK
streaming where?
moving to group 1 channel
Any chance you figured this out? Litterally having the same issue
@outer crow he was using BEGIN again each round - don't do that
I'm not doing that, I've done it on another account without issue.
then what's happening?
Begin > Submit > Killing rats, moving statues to correct location - Also am using the updated weakaura, getting zapped on 2nd one.
need me to watch?
he insisted he wasn't using BEGIN - but then was hitting it after first unlock each time - if you get the echoes message again you are doing it wrong
I'll send it once more and see if it still does it.
cool
Found the issue.
After submitting you need to reopen the bench, because the weakaura thinks you're at a higher lock level.
Eg; Doing lock 2, it said i was at 4, so it was sending 1 onto 4. Which was incorrect.
Thanks for the help β€οΈ
hello, regarding 8 o clock orb can me and my friend do it together on one instance? and both get it?
Just a quick question regarding table
I have 8 rats for first so table says 2 on 1
Does this means i have to bring 2 statues to be on top of Pad number 1?
Yep, thatβs correct
Did they changed it so you need only 3 locks?
Ah nevermind I just saw pin
Do i need to place all statues at the same time and then submit? I can't seem to get it to work if i do one plate and then submit
Yeah you can stack them on top of each other
Yeah i know, i meant should i do all the plates until i hit submit?
You only need first 3 locks if you get for example:
I had 9 Rats so i had to put 2 statues on Pad number 2
Then hit submit
Go back to remove statues
Go kill rats again
Check how many statues on next pad
Place statues
Hit submit
Then repeat removing statues
Killing rats...
Ah i found out i accidentally placed a statue on one, maybe thats why i kept failing π€£
same experience here always failing at the 3rd lock
yeah so don't press begin after submitting each lock only press begin to start the mechanism
Can this step be made with friends or only 1 person per instance?
hi, I am a bit stuck on this. I go to reach plate 3, in the room with the humming crystal above the door. But the gate to that room istill locked for me (I got all 7 earlier orbs). What did I miss?
You need to use your Relic of Crystal Connection on the Humming Crystal inside the room
I cant seem to find it. Targetting macro always finds the one outside. I read its on the right side, do you have any more advise to see it?
Can you take a picture of the room so I can point it out?
I found it, I am blind...thank you for helping!
when people refer to the 'old weak aura' is it this one? https://wago.io/oS8xU2rs_ I am stuck on this one also, it always zaps me on the first lock
did they nerfed this or something my friend got the orb after 3 runs
Yeah, they nerfed it down to 3
does the amount of rats change every lock?
yes - random