Yeah, opening any gossip window, actually, because I'm lazy. You'll have to manually reset if you mess up and aren't the one submitting though.
#8 O'Clock / RATS - THREAD FULL
manic bane
strong flower
outer narwhal
no rats means you didn't click submit initially
lime gorge
For anyone needing Vocal help im in group 1 of the voice chat 🍿
past wren
If anyone is NA I can help them physically in the instance ❤️
rugged ether
Hey guys, If I get killed on the Enigma machine, I have to reset the whole process and start over again on #1 again? or wee can just the wrong old one?
outer narwhal
Hey guys, If I get killed on the Enigma machine, I have to reset the whole proce...
Kill all rats, then restart by clicking on "submit"
past wren
Hey guys, If I get killed on the Enigma machine, I have to reset the whole proce...
You have to reset the instance if you get it wrong
rugged ether
Kill all rats, then restart by clicking on "submit"
so Like I got killed on Number 4 the I have to start killing and then pushing submit and doing No 4 again? or start from the beginning?
outer narwhal
start from the beginning, with Lock 1
rugged ether
You have to reset the instance if you get it wrong
oh really!! thanks
past wren
No you have to run out and reset instance then go back in and start at 1
outer narwhal
restarting the instance is an alternative, you can also just kill all rats inside and click on submit
rugged ether
ok ty guys
wet furnace
guys i can guarantee i had 10 rats on the 2nd lock, so i went to put 3 statues on platform 6 and it reset.
This is the 3rd time it happens.
No catacomb rats running around, all other statues are not standing on platforms.
Am i missing something? Works fine with the 1st lock
abstract steeple
@wet furnace you didn't use BEGIN more than just once at the beginning?
wet furnace
no, just use submit after it began
abstract steeple
the machine will tell you what number lock you are up to - many have done the BEGIN each time
did you kill all cata rats?
they can run on plates
wet furnace
i didn't i counted, i even counted dead bodies of RATS and it was 10.
pressed submit, got zapped and it reset
i did
abstract steeple
well i messed up 4 times - just go slow - use weakaura if that's something you have - targeting macro etc
double-check the machine says you are on the same lock as you think
3rd time it has happened hints that you are doing it wrong
did you take the old statues off?
happy to stream it with you to help
wet furnace
yeah i checked all the statues, they were in a corrdior not on a platform apart from the 3 on P6
i will give it couple more tries, not the first time blizz released stuff that doesnt work
abstract steeple
i have had no one that had this sort of issue not end up realising they were doing something wrong - been helping hundreds and it's quite bug free
except don't drag a staue though a cycle pillar
timber badger
thorn lion
what statue am I moving
thorn lion
like i can move the ogre when I come in
abstract steeple
yes
thorn lion
aight
abstract steeple
you will only need max 3 on any round - leave 2 up 2 down
dry comet
I can do 1 sometimes now but now I can't complete the second. Few times I can do up to 4
wind oasis
how does one open the room where p3 is located? cant find pins here
thorn lion
how do I get into the humming crystal room
abstract steeple
To reach plate 3 with a statue in tow, drag it to the Humming Crystal gate, target the purple Humming Crystal inside the room, then use the [Relic of Crystal Connections] to port in. The statue will tag along. Exit the room by repeating the process with the green crystal above the gate outside.
dry comet
Use the glasses to see crystal. Use crystal connection on it to teleport inside. Use it on one outside door to teleport out
dry comet
Statues do go through door if tied to you after teleport
abstract steeple
@dry comet if you need help i can help if yo0u want to stream?
dry comet
Seems it's always wrong when I get one on lower levels like my 5 6 7 are 7 6 5 maybe
abstract steeple
there should be no difference - you might be missing something
that is the same plate numbering for all the versions i have seen
dry comet
Same chart I have
abstract steeple
once you know the process you should be able to one-shot it - i don't know what you are missing
you've had enough practice now 🙂
double-check you are on the right lock number by reading what the machine says - 7 is lock 1 etc
Pull the BEGIN lever, then the SUBMIT lever
Count and kill all regular Rats dungeon-wide
Kill (but don't count) all Catacomb Rats dungeon-wide
Move statues to the correct plate (remove statues from previous plates)
Pull the SUBMIT lever (Do NOT pull the begin lever again)
Repeat from Count and kill
thorn lion
after getting one of the locks do I have to move a statue off the plate
abstract steeple
only use Submit once at the end of each lock - check machine number before Submit
yes
thorn lion
ugh
abstract steeple
😛
thorn lion
start over again!
sudden forge
Question: when I use "Relic of Crystal Connections" it keeps porting me back outside. Why?
abstract steeple
you have the green crystal targetted
sudden forge
Yes
abstract steeple
select thepurple one in room
sudden forge
And it keeps porting me back outside
abstract steeple
To reach plate 3 with a statue in tow, drag it to the Humming Crystal gate, target the purple Humming Crystal inside the room, then use the [Relic of Crystal Connections] to port in. The statue will tag along. Exit the room by repeating the process with the green crystal above the gate outside.
purple is on floor to the right side in room
sudden forge
And also, I had no rats on my first phase!!! lol
abstract steeple
um - that's not how it works
sudden forge
I started it and went through and no rats:(
abstract steeple
you either missed one or didn't SUBMIT first to spawn them
sudden forge
Except the catacomb rats
abstract steeple
Pull the BEGIN lever, then the SUBMIT lever
Count and kill all regular Rats dungeon-wide
Kill (but don't count) all Catacomb Rats dungeon-wide
Move statues to the correct plate (remove statues from previous plates)
Pull the SUBMIT lever (Do NOT pull the begin lever again)
Repeat from Count and kill (edited)
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Incognitro,_the_Indecipherable_Felcycle#8_o'clock:_Enigma
use the target macro - rats can hide but macro finds them
abstract steeple
then you didn't spawn them - did you have both begin and submit on the machine?
there are no rounds with zero rats
thorn lion
i dont have to hit begin again after I do lock 1 right?
abstract steeple
keep 2 down - there are no locks that need more than 3
also - make sure to remove last locks statues
take it slow and double-check
quiet apex
did you solve that?
open dirge
I'm sure it's listed somewhere in here, but how do I get our of the arcane room now that I got in it?
cobalt sedge
I'm sure it's listed somewhere in here, but how do I get our of the arcane room ...
Click on the crystal above the door on the outside and use your item again
open dirge
Click on the crystal above the door on the outside and use your item again
Thanks ❤️
dry lodge
Are you supposed to kill the rats after counting or leave them alive?
lofty blade
Usually, although I did die once jumping off...
I could not get the Macro to work...any suggestions on why?
lofty blade
I'm sure it's listed somewhere in here, but how do I get our of the arcane room ...
Target the crystal above the door. Just get very close and look up
cloud kettle
I could not get the Macro to work...any suggestions on why?
must be formated wrong. maybe you made a slight error when making the macro
lofty blade
Are you supposed to kill the rats after counting or leave them alive?
They must die
lofty blade
must be formated wrong. maybe you made a slight error when making the macro
I even copy and pasted, but will try again.
Thank you. I must have copies something wrong. I used the one in the pinned message and it is working as intended.
Does the Macro work for the entire instance or do you still have to run around?
wet sable
Hi. Are the Catacombs Rats supposed to be killed before the other Rats can spawn?
lofty blade
Hi. Are the Catacombs Rats supposed to be killed before the other Rats can spawn...
no If you read the pin, you will see that the Rats spawn after clicking on Submit. Best to read it first. Don't be like me.
cloud kettle
Does the Macro work for the entire instance or do you still have to run around?
it should cover most of it, still best to check every area
fallen flame
How was this puzzle solved? Specifically the table with every combination of statues and rats. Is there some hint towards this?
marsh herald
How was this puzzle solved? Specifically the table with every combination of sta...
They brute forced it!
fallen flame
Wow, i respect that 
marsh herald
But if you see one of the old pinned messages on 9oclock channel, Josh is asking to look for actual leads to that chart
lofty blade
Unbelievable. Lock 4 checked and rechecked everything....died.
serene pivot
Does the Macro work for the entire instance or do you still have to run around?
The ends are too far apart for it to work from bike to entry.
serene pivot
Unbelievable. Lock 4 checked and rechecked everything....died.
Did you kill all the Catacomb Rats as well?
glass briar
They brute forced it!
to be honest, when I made mine, I didn't brute force it. I had the idea that rats and platform/statues were tied together somehow [though I was experimenting with the platforms being multiples of 2 and binary being used, which was not the case]. I then noticed a pattern in the initial data other people gathered (for locks 1, 2, and 3) - one rat was always the # of the mechanism, then it incremented by the number of of the mechanism (so 1, 2, 3 for lock #1, then 2, 4, 6 for lock #2). I don't know how the numbering of platforms was done, it seemed to be just north to south but apparently there's a hint somewhere for it. Given that experimenting with the first lock revealed that after 1 statue on 7 it went to 2 statues on 1, I assumed that the "counting up" looped after 7 to be one more statue but back on the first plate. I made a list of that up to 70 (for 10 rats times 7 locks) but this broke down for a lot of people for 4 statues on anything and 3 statues on 7. Someone else discovered that the "counting up" itself seem to reset after 3 statues on 6 (which corresponds to 20, also the number on the machine for how many years its broken) and from that I just replaced everything above 20 with a copy of what was figured out for 1-20.
#math?
serene pivot
to be honest, when I made mine, I didn't brute force it. I had the idea that rat...
I just woke up and may be misremembering but I swear Josh suggested one could see the pads as being laid out like a clock. If so... that would parallel the 7 orbs we already had.
glass briar
I just woke up and may be misremembering but I swear Josh suggested one could se...
I think that also makes sense, they are also clockwise ish on the map
cursive rose
this one was soo anoying, especialy as it resseted twice on dc...
what we do after finishing? is there a chest to loot?
open dirge
can any of the pads go twice or did i mess up counting?
lofty blade
😢 😢 😢 Disconnectled and all wiped out...why doesn't it save progress...that is not ok. Mistakes, yes, disconnects? No.
radiant bramble
Hi, any new information about the zapping bug when submitting plate 3?
subtle goblet
😢 😢 😢 Disconnectled and all wiped out...why doesn't it save progress...that ...
did you also have the slow?
I did yesterday drag the statue with the crystall porter trought the door, then i had a DC, now i have the slow permanent also in Openworld etc. cant remove him...
Ticket is AI answer, Server restart doesnt help
Anyone have a Solution?
subtle goblet
my normal speed now is 66% Movementspeed but have no debuff or anything
Flyingmount Speed is 290%...
no chance to play the game with that bug
lofty blade
To tell the truth, the only time I have looked at my movement speed is when I see I have trailblazer up or looking at my mount speed. Have never noticed a movment speed change like it seems you are decribing.
vocal crow
does it matter which statue i put in on the plattform?
lofty blade
does it matter which statue i put in on the plattform?
no
slim tulip
can any of the pads go twice or did i mess up counting?
I just completed p3, p4, and then p3 again so it looks like you can unlock one twice.
vocal crow
hmm okay i'm confused... i killed 7 rats and on the list it told me to put two statue on plattform two but i get shocked
ah fuck i forgot one..
marsh herald
to be honest, when I made mine, I didn't brute force it. I had the idea that rat...
Hey I'm sorry I didn't mean to overlook your logic. I saw Josh's pinned message on the channel and the third question said "without brute forcing it" so I thought it could've been solved without experiments. Thank you for explaining your thought behind this and all your effort to the puzzle ❤️
cursive rose
my normal speed now is 66% Movementspeed but have no debuff or anything
i had that happened while dragging statue, but it stopped when i came back and picked another, it was like you have ghostly statue over you lol
radiant bramble
i dont fkn get it. i checkt twice. i checked the rats, i checked the table, i checked the color of the objects. EVERYTHING, an i still getting zapped...... its so fkn annoying
i use a damn weakaura + wowhead post....
ALWAYS at the third plate
sudden forge
If anyone needs help with this I send the statue counter to keep track of my rats and my phase that I was one. I used 1-10 for rats and the bottoms numbers for what phase I was on so you don't forget. Pro tip right here and hope this helps. Thank you all for the support
And make sure you keep spamming your macro. Look at your map the rats will show up
radiant bramble
even rats stopped spawning..
sudden forge
^^
dull fog
I just said in chat, like whenever I finished let's say the first, I said 2 next and after every kill I just incremented a number starting from 1, so when I had no more rats, I saw in my chat for example like
Next 5
1
2
3
4
So I knew I had to find row 4 in column 5 in the table
radiant bramble
i dont see any numbers in chat
dull fog
I write the numbers
radiant bramble
one moment please. You need to explain that to me in more detail, please. You killed a rat and then typed a 1. The second rat and then a 2?
dull fog
Yes exactly
radiant bramble
i use a weakaura for counting
dull fog
That's ok too, this way you don't need any addons or WAs
radiant bramble
dull fog
radiant bramble
If I then follow that and make sure no rat is left, I still get zapped.
dull fog
Did you do the previous steps? All of them
radiant bramble
dungeonreset?
dull fog
I did that before starting
ionic stratus
Having the same issue and think its bugged
every time at plate 3 get zapped, trying following WA and the table for rat count
radiant bramble
yes, i resetted. then i clicked start and then submit
like in the wowhead article
dull fog
https://youtu.be/t0x7QI3YPOo?si=A4yWzW4TFRe6vRoa
I also watched this video, maybe there's a step you're missing, try watching the video maybe
radiant bramble
i watched it yesterday
dull fog
Are you going all around the catacombs? Right to the start too?
ionic stratus
It's 100% bugged.
4 times in a row, on plate 3, same issue
Doing same as Lexberger, following table, spamming macro to find rats, etc.
dull fog
Did you kill the catacomb rats as well?
radiant bramble
no?
dull fog
Kill them, but don't count them
gaunt zephyr
kill all rats but count only RATS
ionic stratus
Yeah I'm killing all the rats but only counting "rats"
dull fog
Sometimes they can wander on to the plates
radiant bramble
killing every catacomb rats on every step?
ionic stratus
I mean, the fact that I'm clearly doing it right up to lock 3, and each time it fails on lock3 kinda tells you its not a user error
dull fog
They won't respawn that fast
gaunt zephyr
do not forget statues on platform if u finish round
dull fog
That too
ionic stratus
Yeah clearing them off too
radiant bramble
The statues need to be off the platforms before I start the next round, right?
dull fog
A bit later if you want you can do a screen share here on Discord and I (and anyone else who wants to) can watch and maybe we can find something?
radiant bramble
alright. i did this
now, i killed 10 rats. means 2 statues on p3 right?
they light up green
ZAAAAPPPP
dull fog
What step?
radiant bramble
first
dull fog
Ok, try reseting again, see if you will have some luck then
radiant bramble
i killed cataomb rats too
gaunt zephyr
Right. 2 statues on p3
dull fog
But didn't count them, right?
radiant bramble
10 normal rats
dull fog
Do you have hours 1-7 completed?
cloud kettle
It's 100% bugged.
Its not tho
radiant bramble
hours?
dull fog
o'clocks
radiant bramble
of course. u need two items for the enigma machine
narrow pike
Omg this is shiiiiiiit
radiant bramble
dull fog
I also have 10 o'clock's two small orbs, but I don't think that matters
radiant bramble
Okay, dumb question. After I submit once and remove the statue from the plate, do I have to click 'Begin' on the enigma machine again, or can I continue killing rats?
cloud kettle
Okay, dumb question. After I submit once and remove the statue from the plate, d...
no, only use begin once at the start
dull fog
Okay, dumb question. After I submit once and remove the statue from the plate, d...
Oh then maybe you found the problem? 😄
radiant bramble
maybe. i am at step 2 now
no...
zapped at step 2. not a single rat alive
checked the whole dungeon twice
now i hate it more than that stupid petbattle and the sentry riddle
it makes absolutly NO sense
dull fog
I can't now, but a bit later I'd be happy to take a look if you are still stuck
dull fog
For me they spawned after I completed step 7 as well
radiant bramble
but what do i do now?
dull fog
Try reset instance, relog, things of that nature
radiant bramble
i mean normal rats. not the catacomb rats
dull fog
i mean normal rats. not the catacomb rats
Yeah same
subtle goblet
i had that happened while dragging statue, but it stopped when i came back and p...
yeah 😦 looks like just a dev can fix it
radiant bramble
It's definitely bugged
dull fog
That's what a lot of people thought on the pet battle step as well, including me, but there always is something that we're missing in these cases.
Maybe try taking a break, watch some videos or something and get back to it with a fresh mind 😄
cloud kettle
There should not be more than 10
radiant bramble
Then it's definitely bugged. In the first phase, with 2 statues on plate 3, still getting zapped must be a bug.
cloud kettle
Its not tho. Your just missing something
cloud kettle
Like if there are more than 10 you missed some on the previous stage
cloud kettle
What makes you so sure?
Cuz i completed it 🤷🏼♂️
radiant bramble
in the table, first collumn: 10 rats = 2 on p3
and still being zapped. thats a bug. Just because you managed to do it, it doesn't mean it's a universal statement that can be applied to everyone else.
Besides, I'm not alone in this.
does the ground change?? The pile wasn't there before
wet sable
and still being zapped. thats a bug. Just because you managed to do it, it doesn...
Did you make sure that you removed the statues from the previous solve? I was having the same issue until i realized i left statues on the pads before going to the next solve
wet sable
i removed them
i've had to reset my instance a few times to make sure i was really starting from the start
and also make sure the amount of statues corresponds to the correct color they should be. i was having that issue as well where i thought it was "yellow" etc because I was standing on it, but when I got off it went green
radiant bramble
yes i know. i double checked the correct color
cold salmon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0x7QI3YPOo explanation in video
gleaming topaz
how do I get in that room with the crystal, the item keeps sending me in front of the room instead of in the room or am I just a dum dum
fossil dagger
Anyone have problem with the enigma machine taking the items to start it and not working and items disappearing ?
radiant bramble
maybe wrong crystal in target?
i often hit the hitbox of the statue, even though it wasn't even in the picture anymore.
cobalt sedge
how do I get in that room with the crystal, the item keeps sending me in front o...
there is a crystal inside the room on the right hand side, u must click on that when u wanna teleport inside, and click on the crystal above the door on the outside when u want to leave the room
valid vapor
Today first try 
But its nice, that the catacomb rats do not respawn anymore (or very long respawn time?)
soft ice
Alrighty. Got home. Time for another attempt at this BS
radiant bramble
first try? suuuure. is this first try in this room with us?^^
radiant bramble
@valid vapor
soft ice
I gave up the day before and yesterday I gave up and went back to sleep
Ah
Lucky bastard
valid vapor
first try? suuuure. is this first try in this room with us?^^
'Today'! 😄 Yesterday it did not work somehow, did the same as today
soft ice
Yesterday, I got lock blocked on lock 4
soft ice
Then I tried again, and couldn't get past lock 6, so I said fuck it, I'm going to sleep
radiant bramble
i never saw lock 4 until i was a man
soft ice
huh?
radiant bramble
i was born in lock 3, moldet by it
soft ice
....
radiant bramble
i am still getting zapped on lock 3
soft ice
Hopefully the weak aura will help
Sorry for the reply, but you are an absolutely awesome person
(even if it doesn't end up working for me)
radiant bramble
i use a weakaura. i doublechecked it with the table. boom zapped
valid vapor
i did the WA, the macro (only needed one after i cleared all catacomb rats) and then just the image of the platform positions
soft ice
I was just doing it manually (which might be why I was fucking up. I suck at counting)
radiant bramble
i did the WA, the macro (only needed one after i cleared all catacomb rats) and ...
same
soft ice
I keep thinking stuff like, ah, I killed number 2, which means next is number 3. number 3. number 3. then I kill the next rat and go and that's number 4
downloaded killtracker addon yesterday, but the weakaura seems better, so I'll do that instead
radiant bramble
so u skipped counting one rat?
valid vapor
maybe just drawing a line on a piece of paper per kill is the best 😄
lofty blade
I did it!!! finally. Followed the pinned instructions. Used the macro, Used KillTrack and was meticulous. Thanks for all those who contributed.
pale stone
how to open doors to cat room ?? i found rat inside and its still lockk and instead of unlock it open game
soft ice
how to open doors to cat room ?? i found rat inside and its still lockk and inst...
Is it a catacombs rat?
or normal rat
soft ice
I guess you have 2 options
pale stone
/target Rat
/script SetRaidTarget("target",8)
soft ice
depending on where in the unlocking you are
pale stone
where in unlocking ? i play this mini game only in toy wich i get somehow before
soft ice
if you are at the star, you could reset the instance
start
I mean the enigma machine?
pale stone
i ask how to unlock doors to that room with this minigame to kiill that rat
about reseting i think too but there it need to be way or not ?
soft ice
cat room can't be gotten into legitimately, as of now
as for this room, there's a purple humming crystal on the right
so just click it and use the artifact
pale stone
well how i will end mini game on my screen
soft ice
to get out of the room, use the green humming crystal on the outside, on top of the door frame
right click the buff
pale stone
well it have same icon like my arcane mage spell :DDD its why i dont notice its buff
soft ice
you confused me with the "cat room" stuff
cat room is the room the cats are in, obviously
pale stone
ok hummin crystal on door
soft ice
that one for when you're getting out, though
pale stone
soft ice
the one for getting in is inside the room
on the right, purple
you click it through the door
or you could use a command/macro, I guess
soft ice
purple
soft ice
In this image, it's out of frame. That purple glow on the right behind the doorframe
pale stone
pale stone
...i dont understand u
i just want to open doors 😄
what are u talkin about ? artifact ?
quick goblet
Mouseovers also work. Just make a mouse over macro if you don't have them on by default
soft ice
you use the item you got from the skeleton inside the statue in booty bay
to teleport to crystals
pale stone
aaaaaaaaaah
quick goblet
Make a focus target for the one above the door. Easier to target it that way
pale stone
now i have it
soft ice
That's why the steps/o'clocks have to be done sequentially and can't be skipped
pale stone
i dont know i need use that item xDDDD
soft ice
you unlock things needed to do successive steps
pale stone
now im inside xD
soft ice
fyi, you'll need to bring statues inside as well, during this step
(unless by some luck you don't)
there's a pressure plate there
pale stone
hmm ye
soft ice
when the statues turn pink, they can go through the bars
pale stone
it will work same ?
soft ice
you just have them on rope, and teleport in, they'll slide through the bars after you
pale stone
with statue roped on me ? with that item teleport inside ?
soft ice
doesn't matter what statue
you teleport, statue doesn't. but it phases through the door, as it tries to follow you
pale stone
btw now i need to find way how to teleport out bcs doors locked 😄
soft ice
told you
the green one above the door
just go near the bars, angle up and click it
and use the item again
serene pivot
Or you can face outward against the door, /tar hum and you should get it
soft ice
to make things more complicated
pale stone
this is so weird to angle camera ¨.D
serene pivot
I've just made a macro now to /tar hum and then use the Relic. As long as I'm near the right one it works just fine
You can also reach that room from the rubble behind the 2nd watcher statue
pale stone
well i saw viideo where guy say he will be insta killed if he will do it wrong..i put my prismatic barrier on and did wrong step and it deal 0 dmg from enigma machine....i was "shocked" but without dmg
soft ice
It's chance based, I think
Usually, the zaps do nothing
but one time, it insta killed me
What the actual.... I got zapped with correct answer
Oh.....that looks bugged. I guess that's the reason.
keen marsh
Anyone have this bug/issue: In the room where pedestal 7 lies, when putting a statue there, and you wedge yourself into the small bookcase, the game crashes. You log back in, you're outside the catacombs, and you still have a "statue slow walk" debuff (but without any icon/indication". You must then go in and drag any statue, release the statue, to walk/run normally. Then you must Begin the traps over, but no matter how many times you do so, and get the mechanism reset message, no new normal rats ever spawn.
Hence, I'm about to exit the game completely/log back in to hope that helps.
cloud kettle
Oh.....that looks bugged. I guess that's the reason.
warlock?
cloud kettle
get rid of your imps
soft ice
sigh
cloud kettle
happened to me too
soft ice
That's more easily said than done
cloud kettle
swap specs
soft ice
I don't, but it got rid of some other convenient stuff I had on my action bars as well
Yeah, that's why I made a copy of my talent loadout, removed inner demons from it (and some other talents that don't work without it) and replaced it with some other talents
but fucking imps, huh
explains why I've been failing when I should have answered correctly
radiant bramble
Guys, after 9 Hours i did it!!!! special thanks to Derpydergon!!!!
cloud kettle
explains why I've been failing when I should have answered correctly
Btw. You can use fel rush with the statues
soft ice
Yeah, I know
I rushed from one side of the cave-in to the other, and it was pretty funny how the statue was slowly pathfinding to me, instead of trying to go through the wall
radiant bramble
I also noticed that the color didn't always match, even though the statues were correctly placed on the switch. Please pay very close attention to this.
with correctly i mean "absolutely perfectly ON the switch"
soft ice
does the colour matter?
cloud kettle
They help with stacks
radiant bramble
color is very important
The color is very important. It indicates how many statues are on the switch.
soft ice
cloud kettle
What bout color blind ppl?
soft ice
Josh said the colours aren't the only indicator, as it wouldn't be accessible or something like that
radiant bramble
I can tell you that the color green was displayed even though three statues were on the switch. I moved one statue only a few pixels, and the color yellow appeared.
weird
fair prism
I haven't been able to get the macro to work. Can anyone help
I tried this last night and all I could find were catacombs rats
fiery oyster
I use the macro to target the rats. Kill each one. Double check for any more. Go by the chart and it still fails. Saw where the catacomb rats trigger the pads too. Could this be why it fails on me? Thanks and sorry if it's been asked before.
fiery oyster
I haven't been able to get the macro to work. Can anyone help
Make sure you are hitting submit on the machine to release the rats.
radiant bramble
I haven't been able to get the macro to work. Can anyone help
/tar [nodead] Rat
/script SetRaidTarget("target", 8);
/cleartarget [dead]
fair prism
Make sure you are hitting submit on the machine to release the rats.
Okay, thank you. I'm about to try it again. I got frustrated last night
radiant bramble
copy all three lines
soft ice
I have similar one
fair prism
copy all three lines
Thank you
soft ice
Omg
Finally done with this
I would like to reiterate how amazing of a person you are.
Thank you so much!
fathom tartan
I would like to reiterate how amazing of a person you are.
Thank you so much!
lol, its not MY weak aura, I just linked to it
soft ice
Even so. If you didn't link it, I wouldn't have known about it
fathom tartan
I updated the message with the author of the WA
soft ice
@manic bane Thank you so much for making this. You are an amazing person as well!
distant loom
If we’ve done it, can we enter someone else’s instance and help them?
fair prism
I had 10 rats. I put 2 statues on number 3.. which is the one in the room with the crystals you have to use right? I keep getting electrocuted
narrow venture
there are rats that get stuck behnid the edges of door and openings. easy to miss. need to be real thourough.
fair prism
10 is the maximum number though
narrow venture
which list are you using? there was a link to a blog, and it was wrong
fair prism
narrow venture
and youre sure you didnt count a not countable rat?
fair prism
I need a better one bc it took me forever to figure out that 1 was in the felcycle room. But I'm also a little brain fried from doing all of this
I copied the macro someone posted and it's been working
narrow venture
i walked around and melee each 1, 1 at a time just to be sure i got the right count
fair prism
That's what I did. I just went out and reset instance to see if maybe that was my mistake when I was reading the map wrong
narrow venture
And the aura on the platform was green?
fair prism
It was
narrow venture
hmm
can you reset the instance? or does that reset the whole puzzle back to square 1?
fair prism
I just went out and reset the instance. I'm taking 5 before I go back in bc I'm annoyed lol
distant loom
Which lock were you on?
fair prism
First one. I can't get past it and I've been trying since last night. I watched yt videos and everything
fair prism
I am. I'm outside, literally 😂
narrow venture
now you gotta recount the mice. count will be different
fair prism
Yeah i got a pen and paper out to keep track that way. Thinking it might help to see it written down
This is the only orb I've had any trouble with so it was bound to happen
narrow venture
i had to start over like 4 times on the 2nd orb because the list i was using was wrong.
and there are a few of the dungeon rats that will walk over platforms as well if you dont kill them all. and they can respawn before you finish moving statues
fair prism
After each time you count rats and kill them and do the statue you hit submit right?
primal mantle
There are a ton of people outside the catacombs saying it is broken 😕
well lots of people have completed it as well, im sure they are doing something wrong, i found sometimes a new rat spawned during the middle of killing them so just be methodical when doing it, use addon to count kills and reset your statues every round and check everywhere for rats
i did it first try by being methodical and taking my time
narrow venture
i always started my rat count in the motorcycle room and worked my way through. the rats can be in the rooms with door as well
primal mantle
i wouldnt use that chart many people have said its wrong use the pinned one
steep zinc
There is a weak aura that works really well 🙂
it tells u how many rats u killed and how many statues you need and where you need to put them
fair prism
Okay so I got to round 4
And messed up 😂 read the wrong damn chart
So to be clear when it just has a number instead of 1 on 3 etc do you just put 1 statue or no statue?
past kindle
steady flame
am i still on round 3 if i didnt die after getting zapped?
lime gorge
For anyone that needs vocal support, im in group 2 of the voice chat 🍿
fair prism
I've had it
lime gorge
am i still on round 3 if i didnt die after getting zapped?
no, after the Zap ur at the beginning
narrow venture
am i still on round 3 if i didnt die after getting zapped?
it tells you in the submit box how many lock syou have left
steady flame
after i fail once it keeps zapping me even when i did it right?
steady flame
it tells you in the submit box how many lock syou have left
its not resetting anymore
valid junco
can this be done in a group?
muted arch
what statues i have to move? i see the plates but what statues? it doesnt matter?
steep zinc
what statues i have to move? i see the plates but what statues? it doesnt matter...
the statues don't matter, take the one you want 🙂
fair verge
use this
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1308883945449984020/131089995030...
how ? have 10 rats
steep zinc
there's 3 downstairs and 2 upstairs
thick void
what statues i have to move? i see the plates but what statues? it doesnt matter...
a heavy one 🙂
muted arch
wait after unlocking first lock, i can move that statue from the plate? it doesnt have to stay on the plate
thick void
it shouldnt stay on the plate otherwise you will fail
the next lock
unless obv you get the same plate again
muted arch
damn, just tough about that
better late than never i guess
seem im not fully stupid, just a little slow 
muted arch
link?
muted arch
also when it electrocutes me it just retards on is own, right ?
thick void
you shouldnt get electrocuted if you unlock a lock
muted arch
yeah but if i fail
thick void
you should die
past kindle
how ? have 10 rats
10 rats at what stage?
dawn schooner
on the chart where it just shows one number for the pad, what does that mean?
like, 9 rats , pad 7
thick void
there are better charts
dawn schooner
ok so its what i thought, it means just one statue
narrow pike
4/7 and then ZAPP .. im crying xD
valid junco
if i have already inserted the mirror and blood can i still reset the instance?
valid junco
ok cool thanks for the info
muted arch
the WA is so helpfull and map is great
but ..how do i get inside the crystal room .. is there a crystal on the other side of he gate, how do i target it to use the teleporer ?
marsh herald
but ..how do i get inside the crystal room .. is there a crystal on the other si...
Click it throught the gate
valid junco
zoom into FPS view "Humming Crystal" in the room on the right. target , use item
dull frigate
Does it bug out or is it because im braindead?
valid junco
it took me several angels to be able to target
muted arch
ah got it, i tought it was above the gate like the one outside lol
valid junco
can i solve #8 in a group?
valid junco
that's good enough for me
dry comet
If you stand by door and type /tar hum it'll target the outside crystal. You can also set it as your focus before you enter. These are solutions others have given.
thick void
place allows three players and josh made a comment about doing it with friends
muted arch
great im done, thx for help awesome people
ocean coral
Anyone having an issue on after the 3rd lock where one of the switches is blue with no statues on it causing you to fail the next lock?
ocean coral
Even if they are no where near the pad? I guess I need to change specs and test it. Thanks.
obsidian anvil
yay got it first try took 15 mins thanks guys o7
dry comet
Yea I still can't get past 4. I get shocked every time. Either the chart is different for america servers or it's wrong
I've tried over 100 times now
thick void
you are making sure to remove statues from previous plate? its very to overlook
dry comet
Yes I use same statues on the platform so I go back and move them all off and move required ones on to next
thick void
and lastly are you using the macro/WA combo?
dry comet
Yes I'm counting the rats targeted by the macro because I only kill ones that are targeted. It only targets living rats
thick void
try the WA friend
it not only counts rats but tells you how many statues on which plate
works perfectly i used it last night
just need a chart of which plate is which
dry comet
How do I install it then?
thick void
you have the add on weak aura?
dry comet
I don't have any add ons
serene pivot
Someone today was able to get past a similar issue you were having. Perhaps it's fixed?
molten plover
Question - once I have a statue placement in place (for example Greed statue on P1), what do I do?
serene pivot
Yea I still can't get past 4. I get shocked every time. Either the chart is diff...
Can you check to see if the Enimga Machine is giving you credit for each new lock? After a "submit" make sure the status message shows one less that is still locked.
serene pivot
Question - once I have a statue placement in place (for example Greed statue on ...
Go to the machine and "submit". Go back and remove the statues from that plate, then count rats, then place the new number of statues on the new plate. Repeat.
dry comet
Yes it says you hear a mechanism unlock. Then I got more rats targeted. I count them.
molten plover
Go to the machine and "submit". Go back and remove the statues from that plate, ...
Right, thanks! I was zapped, so I guess it wasn't right. Is the solution to platform 1 not 1 statue?
dry comet
I kill rats then move statues but yes
molten plover
Yeah, I killed all rats and catacombs rats, then moved greed to platform 1
serene pivot
Right, thanks! I was zapped, so I guess it wasn't right. Is the solution to plat...
It's in the chart in the pins, how many statues go on which platform for which lock you're doing.
serene pivot
Yes it says you hear a mechanism unlock. Then I got more rats targeted. I count ...
No, I mean actually check the Enigma Machine's status message to make sure IT is giving you proper credit. Some people are having a bug where you correctly unlock one, but the machine doesn't update, so they're stuck on it.
ocean coral
itts related to your pets
Yup. 100% don't do as a Demo Warlock. Thanks for the help.
thick void
Yup. 100% don't do as a Demo Warlock. Thanks for the help.
cheers
jaunty temple
ok, lets try this again
valid junco
https://wago.io/oS8xU2rs_ this tracks everything for you. you only need to know which plate is which, kill rats, move statues and hit submit
no thinking required, perfect for grug
molten plover
Do lock progress keep if you log out?
serene pivot
Do lock progress keep if you log out?
If the instance resets I believe you lose progress
serene pivot
Ah damn
If you're not sure, check the Enigma Machine. It will show you how many locks are still locked.
scenic radish
can you open the crystal room?
serene pivot
can you open the crystal room?
To enter that room, target the Humming Crystal inside and to the right, then use your Relic to teleport. To exit that room, target the Humming Crystal above and outside the door, then use your Relic.
scenic radish
whats the relic?
serene pivot
The thing you should have purchased from the skeleton in the Booty Bay statue.
With the muffin and the pieces of hate.
blazing patio
is it normal that i have a mini orb on the 10o'clock
yea that's the 50 clicks on the red button will also get a 2nd for 1000 clicks
dull frigate
Thanks for all the help <:Pepega:581898563018162177>
you should have 2 by clicking the red button 1000 times
valid junco
you should have 2 by clicking the red button 1000 times
just used xclicker 
still stone
you should have 2 by clicking the red button 1000 times
1000 click ?
granite lance
in table 7 i got 6 rats its says pad 2 how many statu should i take to pad 2 ?
outer radish
How does one get into P3?
I used the device on the crystal above the door but it only brings me to the door 😦
Ah nvm
Can someone please link me to this? Im an idiot and need coffee :/
safe patrol
Can you do 8 o'clock as a group or must be solo?
abstract steeple
Can you do 8 o'clock as a group or must be solo?
group of up to 3 works
dry comet
Wait what's the glitch then? It says it unlocks how do you check if it's correctly unlocked?
abstract steeple
Wait what's the glitch then? It says it unlocks how do you check if it's correct...
huh?
anyone stuck or need help?
summer cobalt
i was following the chart someone posted here earlier but i cant get past the second lock, does it reset after it zaps you?
i've tested and it seems to reset
but sometimes it doesn't work
abstract steeple
@summer cobalt zap is a fail and usually resets the machine
the machine will tell you what number lock you are up to - the text counts down - 7 is lock 1
the table is in the 📌
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1308883945449984020/1310859132492058645/image.png?ex=6748ba73&is=674768f3&hm=0715df895ed41127c398aa093468623ed00b5969e4d9fdd9ffa77c3be6bdfafd&
if you are sure you killed all rats when you hot SUBMIT and failed - you can use the current new rats on that number lock
summer cobalt
the machine will tell you what number lock you are up to - the text counts down ...
the lock is not sequential?
abstract steeple
it is - but people often think they have made progress and using the wrong lock number
summer cobalt
i mean, it doesnt go in a orderly fashion? Like, first you do lock 1, then lock 2
abstract steeple
if you get the unlock emote it will then be the next lock - but best to check by reading the machine
summer cobalt
Oh
"there appears to be 7 locked mechanisms" you mean
i hadn't noticed that
tyvm!
abstract steeple
that's the one - you are on lock 1
to make sure you get ALL the rats use the target macro in the pins - you can use the combat log to double check your count
summer cobalt
to make sure you get ALL the rats use the target macro in the pins - you can use...
that's also a good tip, thanks for that
abstract steeple
the weakaura is also good for counting and telling you the solve for the lock
hollow nacelle
seems as though catacomb rats no longer respawn, or the respawn timer was increased
and the weakaura makes this a lot easier
abstract steeple
i heard someone else say that about cata rats - didn't see it myself - spawn timers are odd sometimes
hollow nacelle
well, it's been over 10mins and no catacomb rats have spawned, almost done with this as a result
abstract steeple
nice
hollow nacelle
and done
bright turret
Anyone figure out the clues to solve this yet or just the person that figured out the pattern?
dry comet
Goggles are now toy too
abstract steeple
took me a while to find them yesterday
dry comet
I had it on my action bar and used it and it's all "you learned stary eyed goggles" I was all that's new
dry comet
Omg finally
abstract steeple
Omg finally
oh gawd - i didn't realise you were still on it - big grats!
now you can take a break
dry comet
The spring in here reminds me of delves
abstract steeple
or darkmoon races
there is no solid progress in https://discord.com/channels/223122687227199489/1309152103750438962 yet
west stream
hi so, the door is opened, do i collect something once inside?
I go the "a great lock has been released" message. So thats it for 8 o clock?
abstract steeple
I go the "a great lock has been released" message. So thats it for 8 o clock?
you're done with this stage
west stream
got it, ty!
rose fulcrum
is this a solo only step or can we be in a group?
last vessel
is this a solo only step or can we be in a group?
Can be done solo or in group
polar ice
why are there colors for more then 3 statues on a pressure plate if they don't solve the puzzle?
last vessel
Might've been to lead people into thinking because you could put up to 5 on a plate that you might need to do it, but ended up you only need 3 at max
polar ice
ya. but if anyone was trying to brute force it. they would still solve before they did half the combos. so why put it in. and i still don't see how they figured it out without brute force like what clues would have told us to use what colors.
like i am great at fallowing the steps to solve but i would like that other info to see if it helps with the next part is all
no matter the case i am thrilled with the people who have gotten us this far
last vessel
ya. but if anyone was trying to brute force it. they would still solve before th...
Josh mentioned early on it wouldn't be with colors.
So from there it was just the amount of objects on the plates most likely, and after it was bruteforced the solution was also actually found out legimitely
#felcycle-solved-read-only message
polar ice
ya but you jsut go with the info 4 statues or more and the colors don't matter. why whould you add 2 extra combos jsut to be a false thread
last vessel
Just because you could. Since 5 statues are present, generally you'd try all the limits to see what happens when you put a certain amount of objects on 1 plate. Whether that be 1 or all 5 (or more using toys/pets)
polar ice
i guess what i am really getting at is have people kept trying patterns after the 8 o"clock orb showed up to make sure it's not something along that
last vessel
i guess what i am really getting at is have people kept trying patterns after th...
If the pressure plates were somehow still supposed to be used after you're done the 8th orb then the Enigma Machine would then have a option to start it up again, since it goes away after the orb is lit then that means the plates are not used anymore in the remaining orbs. i.e. Going out to reset the dungeon and coming back in after completing the 8th orb, you cannot do anything with the machine or plates anymore
polar ice
it just means there is no number to be punched in not that the plates have no use anymore other wise why not turn them off like the enigma machine
why i was asking if that has been tried.
junior fossil
We're back to searching boys! No more clever, just good old walking around with a torch
abstract steeple
here the help anyone with the enigma machine puzzle
junior bison
if this is for a ground mount i will become the joker 
swift terrace
hey folks I just disconnected while working on my 7th lock... all the rats are dead and the statues are still ready to be moved but I dont know how many rats were killed... is there any way to reset this lock only or retrieve where the addon was up to, or am I just completely screwed?
abstract steeple
@swift terraceDC usually means the instance reset - what does the machine say?
as in - what number is written in the text at the top when you open it?
swift terrace
its not talking to me at all... perhaps this is bugged
abstract steeple
hmmm - really?
but you say the statues are in the positions you moved them to?
so not reset
swift terrace
yeah, Im relogging as I just got DC'ed again
abstract steeple
did you pull a statue through the cycle orb pedestals? reports about that bugs and DCs
swift terrace
I think its this garbage australian internet honestly Im DC'ing from discord as well
abstract steeple
so still on lock 7 - check your combat log if there are th kills still listed
swift terrace
thanks good idea but looks like the log is wiped
abstract steeple
you can still guess i suppose - you should have some idea
swift terrace
yeah thanks, genuinely no idea, was chatting on discord with guildies and disassociating my face off
abstract steeple
😦
swift terrace
I appreciate ya trying to help out
abstract steeple
so what is the number yo are going to try?
swift terrace
ngl this whole motorcycle unlock has been speedrunning my wow burnout
idk, probably 6
abstract steeple
🤞
i failed 4 times and logged in disgust
came back chill - cause i wasn't thinking about steps since i had that memorised - one-shot
swift terrace
yeah, I chose poorly. thanks for hearing me out anyway
abstract steeple
ah np - it will go quicker next time - no rush - next step has not had any progress really
meant to be the hardest puzzle - at least to find
lime gorge
For anyone who could use vocal assistance, im in group 1 voice chat! 🍿
slim wyvern
if you fail one of them do you start from lock 1 again?
abstract steeple
if you fail one of them do you start from lock 1 again?
usually - the machine will tell you what Lock you are up to
slim wyvern
usually - the machine will tell you what Lock you are up to
oh it does i'm blind ty
abstract steeple
from: https://docs.google.com/document/d/e/2PACX-1vS7IW1DNW9uKm0VVygwJMQxzakqzkXdneUayq83AbjV0u6wihl4zpgT5xKH3fSlqK61_G23bDt-jR9c/pub
If you get Zapped, you counted wrong or a rat is left alive. Start again from step 2 with Lock 1 [7/7]. You might get it wrong again even with a right count on the next step if you left a Rat alive to be counted twice.
slim wyvern
oh wait so start all over again completely?
abstract steeple
if yo were sure you killed all the rats before you failed then you are now on lock 1 with the currently spawned rats as the number
if the machine says 7 = lock 1
slim wyvern
yeah so i did lock 1, but failed lock 2. so am i at 1 now or still 2
abstract steeple
^
slim wyvern
oh that is rough
abstract steeple
oh not so bad to fail at 2 - not nearly as bad as a lock 6 reset
slim wyvern
i bet
abstract steeple
which also would instantly kill you i beleive
remote kayak
the target macro is very important, would have missed this one otherwise
they can get into some really awkward hidden corners
holy shit, got this exact one twice in a row
for a while I had no idea whether I killed the last one or not
slim wyvern
that was an effort, now i can help work on 9 now i am caught back up
abstract steeple
the target macro is very important, would have missed this one otherwise
they c...
Once I have had 3 in that corner stacked.
remote kayak
done
out of the 7 locks, 4 rats were there, 2 stacked
and I would have missed all of them because I kept forgetting that corner
the target macro is mandatory
jolly pelican
yeah that got me for a bit
lime gorge
For anyone who could use vocal assistance, im in group 1 voice chat! 🍿
mental shoal
8 O'Clock / RATS - THREAD FULL
late glade
how do one get out of the crystal room if one teleported in with the Relic of Crystal Connections? :S
abstract steeple
@late gladeby targeting the green crystal outside
you can just see a part of it
late glade
where is it ish?
abstract steeple
above the door - or use /tar hum when looking out
reef ibex
Does each statue have its own color?
remote kayak
Does each statue have its own color?
if you mean the glow on the pressure plate, it's the number of statues
blue is 1, green is 2, yellow is 3
that way you can easily tell if all are on properly
reef ibex
if you mean the glow on the pressure plate, it's the number of statues
blue is 1...
i done my friend 😍
normal pivot
I have the 9 pieces of hate , muffin, Mirror and i already placed the blood into the machine whats next?
charred palm
does this mean leave it as it is?
i mean leave it (empty), i failed twice on empty numbers like this, am i wrong or?
wild igloo
@charred palmIt means 1 on 4 as far as I know
stiff rose
Alright, 2nd run on these locks will be after food. Trying not to fail on lock 6 a second time before noon. Good luck everyone
reef ibex
fierce thicket
hey, stupid question, but can you do this with multiple people?
reef ibex
https://wago.io/oS8xU2rs_
this site really help you guys
fierce thicket
is it possible that some1 could help me maybe?
blazing patio
hey, stupid question, but can you do this with multiple people?
yea you can, and get them to stand on the plates to speed it up
lime gorge
For anyone who could use vocal assistance, im in group 2 voice chat! 🍿
forest olive
kann mir wer sagen ich bin jeztzt bei stage 7
da steht nur die zahl 2
wie viele muss ich da hin stellen
also ich bin bei Ratten Stage 7 mit 6 Ratten was ist die lösung
pale stone
for those who dont understand what to do,,,, 1st lock wich is first columm its guide for part 1/7 step by step.....you will go to machine go begin submit...count and kill all "rats" and by those rats count number / in columm on left ..u will place it on Position P1,P2 ...random statue nearby...just dont make mistake
fallen flume
how do u get the p3 door open?
mystic palm
to get the p3 door open, I believe you have to purchase relic of crystal connection from the pointless treasure salesman in cape of stranglethorn. There is an island off booty bay and there is a staue with a space at the top. You need you pieces of hate and your muffin to buy it
muted sapphire
This is this step that almost made me rage quit.. almost....... gl everyone
pale stone
i done it in 15 minutes...with macro on mouses and autoattacking them with my max lvl staff one by one after macro them and count them in same way...every single time i goes from stairs to dungeon to felcycle one room to another without miss anything. Easy with that solved help how many statues use and when
trim gazelle
I'd like to contribute to the knowledge of this puzzle that if you kill ALL catacomb rats before activating the Enigma Machine they never respawn, meaning the only rats that show up are enigma rats.
sharp crag
For #7, what does it mean by just "1" for the pad?
Guessing just 1 statue, but it doesn't say that like the others
silent vapor
Are regular rats just really well hidden? I cant find any every time I reset dungeon and click begin
serene patrol
Are regular rats just really well hidden? I cant find any every time I reset dun...
use macro
silent vapor
I was able to figure it out, I had to also click "Submit" after the first "begin" xD
gloomy isle
What're you doing for Thanksgiving? .... Counting rats...
lavish plank
If I hit Begin after getting 2 of the locks, do I have to start all over?
jaunty sable
If I hit Begin after getting 2 of the locks, do I have to start all over?
probably - check the top of the dialogue box and see what lock it thinks you are on now
When i had some weird mess ups - it usually meant i had to restart. Even the one or two that did not became funky after i did not restart
cosmic elk
doesn't seem to let me in. wonder what i'm doing wrong?
lavish plank
I was at the last one and thought I had it right but I was wrong. Now I have to start all over. bull crap. lol
serene pivot
doesn't seem to let me in. wonder what i'm doing wrong?
You sure you're targeting the crystal INSIDE the room and not the one above the door outside?
trim karma
doesn't seem to let me in. wonder what i'm doing wrong?
Did you buy the item with the pieces of hate and muffin?
hexed nebula
You do have to target the purple crystal inside the room, it is easy to mistarget the one outside.
carmine viper
ure missing a tiny orb on the 10 o´clock pilar. (its the one u need to click 1000 times on the red button
sinful oasis
I have a question, I was about to do the 8 O'clock piller but it doesn't give me the option to just begin, it says I can pour in the blood or use the mirror or do nothing. Am I missing something?
abstract steeple
I have a question, I was about to do the 8 O'clock piller but it doesn't give me...
you haven't got the items from previous parts
or you havbe them - you put them in
sinful oasis
I did get the items. Do I need to put them in tha machine?
Is there a right order to put them in?
abstract steeple
nope
sinful oasis
Perfect thank you so much!
abstract steeple
i should have realised what your question was - you don't get those machine options without having the items 😛
sinful oasis
It's all good 🙂 Thank you I really appreciate it.
inland locust
ok
Thought it was full. Does the Arcane puzzle solve from the inside or do you pull the statues through the door
abstract steeple
Thought it was full. Does the Arcane puzzle solve from the inside or do you pull...
the arcane puzzle hasn't been solved and unknown if it is ever needed - you never need to open the door - use Relic
"To reach plate 3 with a statue in tow, drag it to the Humming Crystal gate, target the purple Humming Crystal inside the room, then use the [Relic of Crystal Connections] to port in. The statue will tag along. Exit the room by repeating the process with the green crystal above the gate outside."
also i have no idea why the <@&285953105202511872> put Thread Full on this since that makes it look like it is locked but it is used as a help thread since it was solved
mental shoal
because new people cannot join it.
abstract steeple
oh - but why?
mental shoal
there is an overflow thread. #1311650215400308747
because discord has a cap of 1k people per thread
abstract steeple
ah - tyvm for info
mental shoal
yw!
runic iris
do i have to restart the locks if i stopped at 3 yesterday
cedar ingot
do i have to restart the locks if i stopped at 3 yesterday
go to the machine and find out how many locks are locked
runic iris
okay thanks
abstract steeple
waiiittttt SO IF U DIE U START OVER 😭
if you die or the instance is reset or even if you DC
runic iris
OH DAMN
abstract steeple
so be careful 🙂
runic iris
so i killed 8 rats and im on 3 ... it just says 4 under the pad ... what does that mean? normally it says like 2 on 4 or 3 on 4 but this just says 4
abstract steeple
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1308883945449984020/1310859132492058645/image.png?ex=674a0bf3&is=6748ba73&hm=2e086993ab3928f36795b2a63689f8514e685b6aa87aefb9f72e81ac279a451a&
you are using old table - not wrong just that shorthand is confusing - single number is 1 statue on that number pad
runic iris
thank u
i dont understand, i killed ALL the rats and put 1on 4 and it killed me AGAIN
is there something else i need to know
raw jasper
Hello, can you move a statue off a plate after its been used and submitted?
or must you leave all the statues there?
abstract steeple
or must you leave all the statues there?
the opposite - you must remove - only one plate should have anything on it with SUBMIT
abstract steeple
is there something else i need to know
not sure what you are missing - check the process
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Incognitro,_the_Indecipherable_Felcycle#8_o'clock:_Enigma
common failures are after Lock 1 are not removing statues or hitting BEGIN again after you have started
also note that the machine tells you which Lock you are up to in the top text: 7 to go means Lock 1 etc
gentle linden
i have 6 rats on lock 4 - what does "4" mean.. haha
like 1 statue on 4?
whaty is just "4"
abstract steeple
whaty is just "4"
#1308883945449984020 message
gentle linden
https://discord.com/channels/223122687227199489/1308883945449984020/131193441947...
oh legend thank you
worn kernel
Not sure if I am just being a dingus or what... but there aren't enough statues?
Do you need to do all 7 locks at once? or do you do one at a time and click the buttons on the machine
abstract steeple
Do you need to do all 7 locks at once? or do you do one at a time and click the ...
@worn kernelyou only need max 3 statues per round and only use one plate
the table shows how many on which plate - have you read the process?
worn kernel
Process is really not clear unfortunately. It just says "Put them on the plates, these plates" but you would need like 11 statues to do that. Unless you have to do one, submit, do another submit, which isn't clear
worn kernel
https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Incognitro,_the_Indecipherable_Felcycle#8_o'clock:...
This link is far more clear though, so thank you for that
As the rest don't say remove statues XD
abstract steeple
seems yo worked it out - yes remove statues
worn kernel
Will try again now with your link, thank you
abstract steeple
and the reason to kill the cata rats is prevent them running on another plate - good luck!
one lock per round - 7 times to win!
worn kernel
Yeah, it really isn't clear on the wowhead guide, so thank you so much for the link!
abstract steeple
no problem - i hang out here to answer these kind of questions - take it slow and you'll win - ask me if you get stuck
i failed 4 times myself and ragequit 🙂
worn kernel
no problem - i hang out here to answer these kind of questions - take it slow an...
First try with the guide you linked, very clear and very helpful. Thank you
abstract steeple
good to hear - grats
tepid gust
is there any way to get out of this puzzle?? i clicked it by accident!
abstract steeple
@tepid gust you right-click off the arcane buff
abstract steeple
lol yw
tepid gust
❤️ ❤️ ❤️
I'm about to ragequit XD I am triple checking with the macro all around before submitting. I'm killing all the catacomb rats as well so they dont activate. Am I doing something else wrong?
velvet salmon
im in the same boat bud cant get a sinle lock
tepid gust
i keep getting to 5 or 6 and then buzzed. fkg rats.
abstract steeple
are you using the macro or weakaura?
you can double-check the Lock you are on by reading the machine : 7 to go means lock 1 etc
you can double-check number of rat kills by reading your combat log
the target macro can find some rats that like to hide
velvet salmon
im currently getting a bug on p3 where i have nothing on it but its showing a blue light is that normal?
tepid gust
are you using the macro or weakaura?
I'm using the macro! is the weakaura betteR?
abstract steeple
@velvet salmon oh - that would be something despawned on a pad - like a toy or pet
velvet salmon
ahh ok thought so out reset ang go agaion then
abstract steeple
the weakaura counts for you and gives solution
tepid gust
where can i find the weakaura?
abstract steeple
yes prob best to reset with a stuck pad @velvet salmon - are you a demo lock btw?
velvet salmon
nah hunter but i had ice murloc companion out that i dismissed so thats what caused it
and its been solved lovely
now on to the madness that is 9
solid ridge
dont do this shit as demo lock ur pets break the pads and they get stuck
holy cringe
lime gorge
For anyone who could use vocal assistance, im in group 1 voice chat! 🍿
knotty mason
anyone else having issue with getting the begin and submit buttons after inserting the mirror in the machine?
abstract steeple
anyone else having issue with getting the begin and submit buttons after inserti...
i have heard it happen - log or leave and reset instance
devout fossil
what should i do when it says only the number 7 ( 9 rat in 3th row)
lime gorge
what should i do when it says only the number 7 ( 9 rat in 3th row)
Look at the chart/screenshot in the pinned message❤️ if u have 7 rats on lock 3
dapper veldt
Okay... I'm back after a couple days. Anyone find an easy way to do this? I kept getting shocked when I tried lol
marsh herald
Okay... I'm back after a couple days. Anyone find an easy way to do this? I kept...
I used weakaura and done on my first attempt
dapper veldt
Do you need to press the begin lever each time?
marsh herald
Do you need to press the begin lever each time?
No
marsh herald
No
If you haven't found it the wa is here https://wago.io/oS8xU2rs_
dapper veldt
Okay I did the first one and it says mechanism unlocked... but my weak aura's says 0 locks are opened
and... how do I reset the rat count?
marsh herald
and... how do I reset the rat count?
Did you kill all rats?
marsh herald
I'm not sure what you mean by reset the rat count, but if you mean resetting it to the first lock, just hit Begin to fresh start
marsh herald
The wa should automatically reset after unlocking each lock
dapper veldt
I reset because it's just piling and adding on and now it's not cleared out T_T
dapper veldt
The wa should automatically reset after unlocking each lock
That's what I thought but it's not doing that... and idk what I'm doing wrong
manic bane
I reset because it's just piling and adding on and now it's not cleared out T_T
- You can reset it on the "Information" tab in WA with the "clear saved data" button
marsh herald
That's what I thought but it's not doing that... and idk what I'm doing wrong
Did you try a fresh start?
dapper veldt
Yes... I'm about to say f this and no ground mount is worth it... but I'm already on step 8 and so far into it
manic bane
But 2. The rat kill count only counts the rats that count (the ones named rat), and the lock count will update when you actually go to the machine to submit
manic bane
Yes... I'm about to say f this and no ground mount is worth it... but I'm alread...
If ground mounts get the dynamic-flight -but-racecar treatment in 11.1 that could be legit
dapper veldt
Again... I did. I went to the machine and pressed submit the first time. Nothing updated, it still said I had 0 locks done when the game said it heard a mechanism unlock
manic bane
That's pretty funky - just opening the enigma machine window should be enough to trigger it - you using any addons that change UI up?
dapper veldt
Not that I'm aware of?
manic bane
You use any auto-gossip WAs or anything?
manic bane
🤷 you can always fall back to a pen and paper to count (or your combat log) and the table to lookup the combination
The combat log is actually pretty simple - just count the Rat hits since the last Zap 😛
dapper veldt
Are we sure we can't just have someone log onto my account and do this for me...? T_T
cause weakaura's still isn't updating with my progress... and I'm now getting frustrated
lol
mellow quiver
gd, gimme another pet battle lol this is rough
serene patrol
cause weakaura's still isn't updating with my progress... and I'm now getting fr...
just use macro. kill all catacombs and "begin" after that. count-kill 🙂 make sure all are dead=counted, place statues and submit. after submit, again, count-kill
cedar stump
The chart for #3 with 8 rats jsut says "4".. what does that mean?
jaunty sable
Someone said they used a stack of 10 dimes as counters for rats killed. So when I admitted I needed more than just mental tracking; I had the week aura (I think this was only a few hours after @manic bane had released his), a stack of coins, a targeting macro, two charts and a map printed. I took me two more times and when I was about to mess up in attempt one I knew something was off. That is my rambling way of some redundancy helps in this puzzle.
jaunty sable
The chart for #3 with 8 rats jsut says "4".. what does that mean?
Two things: -look at the pins for a full chart without those ambiguous entries and 1 statue on 4
serene patrol
The chart for #3 with 8 rats jsut says "4".. what does that mean?
i used this and worked just fine
and this 
zenith cloud
what does it mean 2 on 1??? Two statues on 1 platform?(
serene patrol
you start with lock 7, so pay attention to that column. count the rats, if you count, for example, 8, you need to place 2 statues on P1
lime gorge
For anyone needing Vocal help im in group 1 of the voice chat 🍿
snow comet
Hey guys How can I turn on the rats names ?
torpid stratus
Anyone know why lock#3 always fails on me? Starting to think it is bug
jaunty sable
Anyone know why lock#3 always fails on me? Starting to think it is bug
I want to say people have more issues with 3 and 5 so may well be a bug. The usual generic issues are rats stacked that get undercounted, pressure plates being on - by bug, forgotten statue, errant critter. , Somehow being on a previous lock (check top of enigma screen to make sure you are on the one you think you are).
abstract steeple
Anyone know why lock#3 always fails on me? Starting to think it is bug
most players that fail consistently on lock 3 are using BEGIN more than just once at the start - they are often also not at Lock 3 at all - check your Lock number with the machine's text
torpid stratus
stone acorn
If you mess up one do you have to start all over or just that mechanism and continue on
abstract steeple
If you mess up one do you have to start all over or just that mechanism and con...
you are back to lock 1
serene oyster
if after count rats and the chart just says 7 does that mean we have to put all statues on the number 7th pad
abstract steeple
old table - one statue on 7
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1308883945449984020/1310859132492058645/image.png?ex=674b5d73&is=674a0bf3&hm=e7deb798141f599e9195201df10fd8782308ea752c184fbbc04fae8557c75604&
heady tapir
Does it matter which statue goes where? are they numbered too?
marsh herald
Does it matter which statue goes where? are they numbered too?
Only the # of statues matter
heady tapir
thank you
torpid stratus
If you haven't found it the wa is here https://wago.io/oS8xU2rs_
This helped thanks
serene depot
If I dc on rats, should I continue, or click on begin, or reset instance?
abstract steeple
@serene depot if you DC probably the instance already reset
you need BEGIN if the pads aren't active - then check machine which tells you how many locks you have to go - SUBMIT if you need rats to spawn
loud nebula
I'm unsure on how to get to the room where P3 is?
abstract steeple
To reach plate 3 with a statue in tow, drag it to the Humming Crystal gate, target the purple Humming Crystal inside the room, then use the [Relic of Crystal Connections] to port in. The statue will tag along. Exit the room by repeating the process with the green crystal above the gate outside.
from: https://warcraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Incognitro,_the_Indecipherable_Felcycle#8_o'clock:_Enigma
loud nebula
Perfect thank you.
coral marten
How do I play this? or what color should I destroy?
abstract steeple
@coral marten it isn't used for this - not used in any solution - prob red herring
right-click off arcane buff to exit
coral marten
right-click off arcane buff to exit
ahaaaaa ok thx ♥
magic escarp
how do i enter the humming crystal room? there is a rat inside ..., cnat kill it
abstract steeple
how do i enter the humming crystal room? there is a rat inside ..., cnat kill it
#1308883945449984020 message
olive cairn
how do i enter the humming crystal room? there is a rat inside ..., cnat kill it
That item you bought with the 9 pieces of hate and the golden muffin target the purple humming crystal then use it to get into the room
magic escarp
That item you bought with the 9 pieces of hate and the golden muffin target the ...
oh, think i forgot that step, haave the pieces and muffin but not that relic ^^
abstract steeple
oh, think i forgot that step, haave the pieces and muffin but not that relic ^^
be quick - the instance resets if you are outside more then 30 mins or so
magic escarp
this damn riddle... if i fail at e.g. step 4 i have to start again at one right? or is a reset required?
abstract steeple
the machine tells you how many locks to go, 7 means you are at lock 1
"If you get Zapped, you counted wrong or a rat is left alive. Start again from step 2 with Lock 1 [7/7]. You might get it wrong again even with a right count on the next step if you left a Rat alive to be counted twice. "
normal nebula
Lock 3 is definetly bugged
burnt ravine
..do the rats reset every lock?
Because I'm following the chart on WoWhead after counting them, and even when I'm doing it correctly (this is around the fifth time it's reset for me), I cannot get to lock 2.
abstract steeple
@normal nebula a common fault is that players use BEGIN again or don't remove the statues from the first pad
burnt ravine
I did that my first mistake. But after that, I've repeatedly done 'submit' and ensure that I've removed the prior statues off of the platforms.
abstract steeple
so what is your question about rats? a new number gets spawned each SUBMIT
burnt ravine
That was my question.
I assumed, that the number of rats remains the same every time before reset like.
abstract steeple
nope - random each time
abstract steeple
Pull the BEGIN lever, then the SUBMIT lever
Count and kill all regular Rats dungeon-wide
Kill (but don't count) all Catacomb Rats dungeon-wide
Move statues to the correct plate (remove statues from previous plates)
Pull the SUBMIT lever (Do NOT pull the begin lever again)
Return to step 2
burnt ravine
Do I also need to kill all of the catacombs rats, but not count them?
abstract steeple
they can run over pads and mess it up - best to kill
burnt ravine
That's probably it.
Even after doing that and clearing all the rats, and counting the rats (not catacombs), still incorrect.
abstract steeple
are you using the target macro? rats can spawn in the crystal room and in a corner
burnt ravine
Yes.
abstract steeple
have you done one lock correctly yet?
abstract steeple
that's one correct - the machine also tells you hopw many to go up the top text
burnt ravine
abstract steeple
so you are on lock 2 - count and kill rats - use column 2 for the solve
scrap that - you are on lock 1
so count rats and solve for Lck 1
burnt ravine
So. I've killed 2 rats, there was only 2 rats this time. Searched the entire map, I put 1 on platform 2, this one, right?
abstract steeple
yep
burnt ravine
No, I'm saying.
I just finished one lock. It says 6 are remaining.
So we're on lock 2.
burnt ravine
I was asking to clarify to make sure I'm doing it correctly.
burnt ravine
Huh?
burnt ravine
I'm already using it
coral marten
Yes
abstract steeple
@burnt ravine update? how's it going?
burnt ravine
I got it done! it took a little bit but once I figured out I had to recheck rats every lock, I got it 😄
abstract steeple
grats!
karmic silo
guys the game keeps dcing me into ratts as im doing the statues, do i need to restart from lock 1 ?
subtle ermine
Hi !
How can i know which statue is the 1st, 2nd, 3rd ect ?