#Phoenix Ash Talisman [SOLVED]
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And here you are thinking of having to do it twice?
no, just getting it from the AH when the price halves
It might not. With how painful the farming is for some of the items it might discourage the resale market, or at the very least keep the price way up there.
I barely managed to do it with the baubleworm. Was maybe 10k ahead total. βΉοΈ
already 2,6m on Silvermoon. Not like I have 2,6m to spare π
Well. The everliving spore is very RNG once a week. And its price wobbles a lot between 200 and 400k. It takes months to sell one anyway.
where the pet here is two very painful grinds and a TW raid to get.
That we haven't confirmed can be completed more then once on a char.
Yep, which we can get May 23rd I believe was the next
Though I will not be farming inert ash again to find out myself π
you can't chromie time classic no?
lol, I can't bring myself to spend the charms on the baubleworm. I'm soooo close to my next pet collection achievement it hurts to think of spending all those charms on 1 pet.
That's fair. The charms have devalued a lot, AH-wise, so I buy a lot of pets even though I've got enough charms. But not sure if it's the same for US realms.
I'm going to put myself through it again after I can get an ember on an alt. Test includes only obtaining the ember prior to the end of Cata TW and farming the rest afterwards.
well, that would have made more sense to find the end quest and then have to search backwards to Zektar rather than spending 6 months discussing what was supposed to lead us to Zektar from finding the items, which is nothing, no clues, just here's some sus stuff now go dig in the database and wait.
Is the wishwing not showing up in the journal fixed
it is now, yeah
Alr
wait, so it really was timewalking gated? :I
made sense hint wise, just wasnt fun since it meant we reached a point early on in this where we literally could not make progress.
yeah, and hiding something to timegated thing like timewalking imo feels abit lazy
they bumped up the rate that the TW cycles at least. people arent going to be waiting as long as ghost moose
aah thats good
and it gives you time to farm the abyssal drop rate ashes
yeah i had all other stuff done on char before i went break from wow π
Love how the Wowhead comments are are complaining that the TW bit is the easy part compared to the grinds for some of the other materials.
the amount of people camping the cooking pots out in wod is almost comical
cuz none of them were under the assumption that the ember was obtainable since november 
it's like that 1 bojak horseman quote but "when you wear secret finding glasses, all the map assets and rocks look like clues"
Which is why we always need more people to poke holes at silly ideas and keep people grounded. π
dont say poke that implies we were the ones who made the problems appear
i point not poke
"poke at the holes" π
It wouldn't give us anything. The task number quest to be 72804, and under this number there is no quest in the database. They also learned how to hide quest on the server side
We weren't talking about the quest being in the database, but in the game. If they had made it available the moment someone got 15 Smoldering Ash or 20 Ash Feathers instead of just having the Talisman this entire secret would have had a path from one clue to the next.
its not even the cookpot part thats the bad imo, worst is the dam ungoro part π
the drop is so rare and there's so few of the right named ones. took me like 2-3h i think or more to get the 20 nonstop chasing them with 0 competition
imagine with all the blobs of people π
You got it fairly fast then
Even without competition it took me far longer for the Un'Goro grind.
mhm, i was just fly mounting around as hunter and shooting any mob without checking wich fire ele it was
if it tags as elemental on my map it dies π
Yep, did the same, had a good route going too to give me almost no downtime waiting for respawns.
It's good that I collected everything in advance, even the excess)))
same, i dont have fomo, i have fear of starting after the blob starts π
@uncut torrent thats why we farmed them 5 months ago when no one else was:D
yeah π and to me the last item got to the point of "i'll wait till after timewalking to not waste my time"
and good thing i did π
I don't consider it a waste of time, I ended up with 4 mounts I didn't have, a ton of transmogs, and 3 pets. while keeping myself occupied while working
plus I sold the pet last night for 1mil so it was worth it to me
Only 1 mil? π
it sold in 20 mins, I wish I had listed it for more lol
I'm impressed it went for 1mil. Usually expensive minipets take forever to move on the market.
well if it was recently found i assume it was the "peoplewanting it asap to be that cool person with it"
same in every game. doesnt matter if its common as long as its new thereare people flexing them π
I think the wow head post plus the fact most people didn't know how to cage it worked in my favor because mine was the only one listed on the AH. They still don't have any more listed atm
nice :> i dont have sub atm so cant yoink a free few month sub π
I also just sold my pet
prices gonna double next week
Then we get the next secret and find out this thing is once per a char and has an Uuna like storyline after for later secrets? π
I've already started the grind on a 2nd char
I need to get into a FL's run for Alys on my alt and there are none. πΎ
So, on a fresh "DF" alt with no progress in Spires, I did the " The Shadows of Skettis" quest chain and the NPC still isnt in the town.. what did I miss :\
you have to unlock the entire zone
@hasty latch https://wowpedia.fandom.com/wiki/Between_Arak_and_a_Hard_Place this a good explanation of what quest to do
Thank you for the info.
woo hoo, got my 2nd ember on the testing alt
this baby better not disappear out of my bags on Tues
so why would people decline lower geared lvl 60's for a TW raid? you only have to be lvl 35 and the gear scales
Because people think it doesn't scale so mote ilvl=better
poor actual low lvl toons, how do they get in to do the TW raids?
Make thier own groups I guess
does the TW loot scale to their level or is it stuck at max?
watch half the raid leave after firebird π
Gonna apply for it then bail after bird? π
this poor soul is gonna learn the hard way about the bird
Jokes on everyone else, watch his lockout already has the bird dead. π
by Sat the raid groups will say BIRD ALREADY DEAD
well this is interesting, you have to be lvl 50 to join a premade for TW, wonder how lvl 35's get in to TW
they invite someone manually, then they put the 50+ as lead
sorry, not sorry, but so it begins, didn't even make it to Sat
if Blizzard is smart they will just make Alysrazor drop it on Normal/Heroic version during Timewalking if they want to keep that aspect of it, otherwise Firelands Timewalking is going to be pretty toxic
the other solution is to make it drop from Ragnaros, in hindsight, I can actually see Blizzard doing something like that
they did it with the G.M.O.D dropping of Jaina on LFR
eh, it should die off a bit though, especially if they don't fix the drop rate for the inert and such, people won't want to do the grind for the pet, so less will be dropping after that boss.
when it was discovered that the elementals dropped it during prepatch I really thought "man, I need to do this now because if this is big (mount) its going to be a shitshow"
And for a mount poeple would do it, but a pet? Far less when they see how painful it is.
I really thought i had 200iq and started fishing in the lava lake on top of the volcano thinking "maybe it drops from fishing too" but after 50 casts I got only junk
but yeah, the Inert Ash is pain upon pain if the area is contested
I cannot think of a lot of pets that require this amount of grind
I really don't think putting it in TW is that big of deal, even as much as I was campaigning against it. The issue with TW is it's in a raid, not a dung. A dung is perfect, people will finish the dung. I understand trying to get people to engage old raids. But putting a drop in there for a component of a pet is not going to do that. It's going to do exactly what is happening, people get there ember and leave and people who want to kill Rag get to be frustrated cause everyone only wants the bird.
tbh some people already did that for flametalon, but Rag has its own too.
@warped plume The quest is blue no?
Tarjin's quest is a blue ? consistent with other repeatable turn-in quests. It only has in-progress and turn-in dialogue and cannot enter your quest log.
They might have hotfixed Inert?
Logged in and looted 2 in 3 mobs
has happened before. need bigger sample size π
hi i cant get zektar to show up, if done the shoadows of sketties chain, and the quests surrounding it, all i have now is a qst to go to my garrison, but didnt think that was part of it
from the horde place in Spire of Arak?
u are taking wrong quest
had the same problem
That's wings tho
And don't need to make the group before qing
you need to do the Talonpriests quest line, then it will ask you to go all the way to the right side of the map
Don't get distracted by the Garrison stuff
If you go to the Garrison camp in Spires of Arak, there should be a bird (Percy) with the continuation of that quest
true, but what the dev did with putting the ember on TW Alys is increase the number of players that are gonna bail out after they get their ember.
@vale geode So if they don't over tune firelands is scales to at least 10 and shouldn't be an issue. What I think some people who are making groups are missing is that more players does not = easier kills. I took some friends in there last night ( 8 of us) we listed the group as a firebird only group. we killed her no problem, and everyone left. We then finished the raid the only the 8 of us all the way up to rag in about an hour and a half. It was really easy this time around, as we were missing 2 dps but we still able to kill every boss in there.
thanks ill try to find percy
Let me ask you a thing: to get the ashes in UnGoro, is any pre-requisite? I grinded tons and got none. Thought im missing anything.
Thanks in advance for any clue
I got the 10x cookpots items and 15 x Phoenix Ashes, 8n addition
patience, the item has dropped for toons as low as iirce lvl 14. Also, some have gone over an hour without one dropping then get 3-4 back to back.
Tks!!
If you want to go mega copium route, they threw this grind in as a decoy β so the powers that be don't tell to ruin more mainstream things 
any further with the secret?
Given the grind of the inert ashes, i think the reward should be a mount, not a pet. There are grinds much less painful that rewards mounts. Just saying.
DK class hall pets are obtained at the same time as the mount.
I don't usually defend grindy pets⦠but the grindiest one is definitely the honor 400 duo
Any reward will be viewed as worth it or not worth it, it's just a matter of player perspective.
so you can get multiple per character?
Still needs to be confirmed, we won't know till next cat TW at the earliest.
oh does the wait the raid feather suffers from raid lockout huh
that makes sense ty
The quest flag could possibly reset Tues
We don't know if the Ember can drop more then once for a char though, right?
I'm going to love my little bird, but honestly the effort to reward ratio is greatly out of balance if wishwing does not have any follow up
Can't know that until next Cata, but if the quest flag resets on Tues wouldn't that be an indication of a yes.
Idk for me personally it only took a total of like six hours to get everything I needed for the pet. Thatβs not that bad
Inert and smoldering farms both done in 6 hours? ...hate you π
I got really lucky and joined an Alysrazor-only run last night right when my raid let out lol
@ionic cobalt have to also calculate in that watching the calendar time gate.π
Agree
...nah, still just a waste of time meant to artificially extend required playtime without actually adding content...
And yet this group is proof that it works.
Of course it works, that is why it has been a staple of game design for decades now.
Like we're all literally STILL playing WoW in the year of our Void 2023, we're long past asking if another pet grind is the camel back-breaking straw 
There must be some prereq for the Ember to drop as I just killed Aly with a group on a toon that had not done anything with Zektar or farming ashes Etc also did not have the neck on that one from Griftah. it did not drop for me.
what level is your char?
And it is not on the corpse, it goes directly to your bags the moment she dies, are you sure it didn't get tossed in there?
hmm i will check and its 70
you are right! it did just show up! i did get it. Thanks!
Has anyone checked to see if it will drop on the lowest lvl toon that can do the TW or if it requires lvl 60?
@rugged raven I sold mine for 750k and someone else did for 1.1 mil yesterday
can you get the pet more than once per char?
it had a blue question mark when I turned it in o-o
We don't know yet because you can only get the Glittering Phoenix Ember once per lockout, and Tarjin won't offer the quest unless you have the Phoenix Ash Talisman in your inventory. That said, the behaviour of the quest is consistent with a repeatable quest.
ooh ok
Just wanted to note if anyone has an alt that can't see Griftah, you can skip the obsidian citadel quests if you have already done them. It took me a while to find that out. βοΈ
just finished the grind on a 2nd character
cool, so we have confirmation that we can indeed have 3 and that the quest flag is not account-wide.
has anyone found an emote this bird does special stuff for? all mine does is sleep
Yep, my bird sleep everywhere
So it turned out to be a pet?
Had a feeling it would be that or something called "Waist of Space" that never leaves you bags
Are there groups for killing the lava birds? This is rough on a poorly geared alt :\
Literally a Red or Blue version of this same pet you can get for "Free" as a drop from 2 rares in Forbidden reach!
Could it be like the falcosaur pets maybe where there might be some quests it can give after maybe certain conditions are met? Or like the infinite whelp in the Elisande fight interaction with her mechanics where it's part of an achievement?
When its the last thing you need and you're so close to finishing and people keep rocking up to the phase you're in

this is under the soup entry but harkenβ¦
"Developersβ notes: We kindly request that players stop asking us why thereβs treasure hidden in the soup containers. We donβt know why. It really didnβt make sense."
huh?
April fool "notes"
yeah, I'm reading them now.
You know the ash grind in UGC is terrible when you get many amazing greens in the way. Just got the Scarlet Crusade shield
Pet at 1.75mill at Stormrage
Impossible to farm inert ashes. Tons of bots
In Stormrage, at least
Be interesting to see if the crowd sticks around after TW is over.
why wouldn't they, if they have their embers
meant in the more general sense after everyone gets their first turn in, If there will still be a crowed farming it not for the current ember but for the next one.
if they check the calendar and realize Cata TW is again on May 23rd they will be wise and farm a little here and there
I bet it will die off in a week. It's the flavor of the month right now and I think the grind all at once is enough to make a lot of people not want to do it/quit half way through. I am going to farm everything again next weekend so I have it all once TW is up again to see if its re obtainable on one account
Epic already got a 2nd pet on an alt, so we can have more than 1 on our accounts. Next test is Tues to run the quest completion and see if we flag true or false. False is pretty obvious that we can get more than one with the same toon. Which is probably already the case cause it would suck to make people who (for whatever reason) only have 1 toon on their account have to wait for the next TW
cant you only get one ember, pre toon, per TW though?
That "per TW" is the part in question.
Doesn't time walking cata turn into a different timewalking event on tuesday?
yep. So, while we can test for the quest flag, we won't know for sure if we can do the whole grind for a new pet again until the next Cat TW which I believe is May 23.
that's what I was asking. I killed the TW fire chicken 3 times to make sure only one ember would drop. I got it on the first kill but not on the second or 3rd
We wouldn't see more then one Ember per a char this week because it is raid loot, once a lockout already.
finally 20 ash
a false on the quest flag on Tues should indicate that we can grind on the same toon in the next TW, but will the ember drop for us a second time can't be tested until then.
that was a tedious grind that jesus
the 15 smoldering are not much better
Still have to do those...
Putting it off in case it is as heavily farmed as Un'Goro since I play that char with warmode on π
I did mine at Scalecracker Keep, more of them there and easy to kite the flying ones to safe areas.
and best place to do the griftah feathers is Tanaris where it's nothing but sand
heh, I did the Griftah feathers right around Tarjin, though that was to test to see if the quest would show without having the Talisman yet. Running around on the platform with Griftah was another fun spot to farm them.
I actually did mine in my garrison. The whole time thinking good gawd Tanaris is where I need to be doing this, I could see those so easy.
Best would probably be an enclosed room just large enough and empty. Stand on one side feathers spawn on other, run over to loot new feather spawns on other side. I am assuming they need a minimum distance from the player to spawn as I don't think I have seen one spawn right next to me yet...
wew!!
how long did it take you im about 40 birds in and havent had 1
i usually get 1 or 2 randomly when doing Dragonbane Keep. Thats how i got most of mine tbh
over 3-4 days, I would go up to an hour and no smoldering ash and then 3 would drop in an hour.
i seen some 1 say nelth normal mode up to chargath but i cleared it and aint had 1 guess il try again
up by the OS, I had only farmed 3 in all the questing, elemental storms, key grinds, only 3 ash
Scalecracker Keep was much better, don't forget the cave in the wall guarded by daddy ravens. there are 6 phoenix in that cave
it's really more of an alcove than cave
il go check it out this seems like hard work for nothing
well not hard just harder lol
Same, scalecracker keep was by far a better farming area. There are 3 spots where you can agro at least 4 at a time without any other mobs. You can get a nice rotation in that area too where there is no down time.
OS only has 3-4 birds that will drop it, all the others are adolescents and won't drop it, all of them at SCK can drop it
well guess the hatchlings do drop it, just at a lower rate
but it's around a 4% dr
As someone who NEVER did firelands when it was current nor any TW raids, how is doing this raid? Is it difficult?
Raid as a whole, or just the Alysrazor fight?
I just finished entire raid with a group in about an hour and half? Real easy tbh. You gotta follow tacts ofc, not a complete nukefest, but still easier than i recalled
race to the bottom π¦
yeah, it was scaled down a lot since I ran it last time and much easier to do. Mechanics mater for sure but its very doable
As long as at least half the group is doing mechanics, it's a breeze. Easier than Raszageth LFR.
ive had 2 in about 400 kills >.< so annoying
goal encourage
Should have photoshopped a tiny character model onto its back so it looked like a mount. π
have at it
...huh, just realized I don't actually have any real image editing software installed right now beyond the default paint program...
lol
Not that strange right, there's been a Wowhead article up on it as well
alright, maybe I'll work up the courage tomorrow 
the tw raid is piss easy
you can completely ignore mechanics with some half decent dps
My god I didnt expect unlocking that vendor guy would take this long
I tried go WM On to farm inert ashes and got slaughtered. WM Off is very populated. Got 9/20 till now. Gotta find a good shard.
You on EU?
So, are we sure price will increase when TW is down?
At that point the ember wont be available til next TW so ya at least a lil bit
but it will be short-lived come the last week of May
anyone know if the inerts drop if youre under 70?
inerts have dropped as low as iirc lvl 14, but you can't get the sacred ash, smoldering ash, and griftahs necklace unless you are at least lvl 60
or start on a untwinked toon, cause you gonna need lvl 60 for the rest
meh shes not that twinked
was keeping her lvl frozen for chromie time
but i got another toon whos also frozne at 59
Im brazilian, but play in Stormrage, US
in a fb feed I follow, thought it was fitting. LOL
i done my inert ash inchromie time party sync we was only group there and it still took hours
If anyone US still needs Firelands there is a group listed in the Legacy raid part
Ah no worries. I'm on a wonderfully dead RP realm I could have shared but yeah it's EU. π¦
Checking that both Lava Hatchlings and Lava Phoenix can drop the Phoenix Ash?
Yes
I will probably keep Phoenix Ash Talisman in my backpack π
not that interested in pets
6m to 750k since the wowhead post on my realm π¦

500k on my server
what is this luck though? no single Smoldering in 30 minutes
someone commented he got all in 2 hours?
killed 50 of them and no single Smoldering
ok I dont believe those "2 hours" grinders
guides say lvl 35, but you have to be lvl 50 to join through the pre-mades.
Tks
still no drop, giving up then xD
I've gone an hour with no drop, but slagmire is not that great a spot, if that is where you're at
great rng?
that's like insane good luck then
I'm never there if I want something π
lol, yeah, I got spoiled in wrath with 1st kill mount drops, but alas, the blizz gods do not shine on me anymore like that
Ashes of Al'ar +2 years, Midnight 2 years, Mimiron 1Β½ years, Drifter 700 attempts
I'm absent all of those too. but I do have Fiery Warhorse from Kara
wait, how do you join pre-mades? Sorry I have never done TW raids and I'm completely lost 
dung journal, legacy raids
group finder
oooh! Alright, thank you 
almost done with step 1 of this shit
party syncing with a starter account is truly the best method rn with all this traffic for the inert ash and the sacred ash
Sorry for my ignorance: how do you do this?
you create a starter edition acct under games and subs, make a toon (its same acct so you can make an allied race to make it easier on yourself), enter chromie time on that toon, open another game window and log onto the toon you're farming on, invite your noob toon into a group, party sync, then go where you wanna farm in CT
Pass lead then party sync! π
it doesnt matter in my experience
Jesus, you are geniouses
Oh, and food for thought, before you make that new account, use a referral link for it.
That way if you feel the urge you can drop a year of game time on it and get all the refer a friend rewards too. Costs a fair bit, but it does work.
Sorry, 6 month, just read it again and the new Recruit a Friend seems to be only 6 months of loot, huh...
any 1 manage to find a better place for these smoldering yet i had 4 in about 6 hours last night... been here 20 mins again in scalecracker keep and had 4 wtf
and done woo
what have I done wrong? I tried this a while ago but I can't enter chromie time
That's the wrong Chromie
You want the Chromie by the Embassy, not the Deathwing Chunk
I wondered why the staff hasn't announced a shutdown but then realised this channel might come back just like a Phoenixβ¦
(I suppose it's because the TW week isn't over yet. Which will in less that two days.)
how do i send you gold? you're a fucking peach and i'm braindead
the other topics that were solved didnt really shut down, people just stopped posting in them
just curious, for wowheads https://www.wowhead.com/quest=72798/tale-of-the-phoenix it says the script to check if you've completed it is by using /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(72798))
why are both my chars that ive completed it on showing up as false?
oh, is that the wrong quest completion? matjz's comment with 72804 comes up as true for me. 72798 comes up as false
maybe this quest is repeatable after all
Tale of the Phoenix is a turn-in, repeatable turn-in never gets flagged, like turning artifacts for rep in the Expedition Camp. This quest might be repeatable.
72804 is another quest that gets flagged when you do the turn-in, if this quest flag stays this reset we will have to see the effects next Cata TW (and have someone painfully refarm the ash on that character) to see if the turn-in is still visible
if 72804 stays and someone with it can still do the turn-in again next TW then that flag may mean something for the future.
The confusing part is that Tale of the Phoenix appears as a golden ! over Tarjin, instead of the usual blue ?.
Tarjin had a blue ? for me when I did the turn-in late Tuesday night.
he had a golden ! for me the first time, then it should be a repeatable turn-in
maybe when they fixed the journal they tidy it up a bit
so, we could wait until may 23rd, or find out today if this is repeatable on the same character or if something changes with the 2nd turn-in.
was able to copy my character to the ptr with the quest done. 72804 flags as true. copying the character over reset my lockouts.
Well if it reset your lockouts, were you able to loot a second Ember?
that's why i'm saying we could find out today. but i'd need people on the ptr to quickly kill alys to check
I'd gladly do the inert/sacred ash grind again if i could get 9 people to help.
was a blue ? for me too
do we have 9 people who'd be willing to help? I alrdy have all the smoldering ash, feathers, sacred ash, and 5 inert
Might need to tap the regular secrets channel? I don't do PTR but there might be others there that aren't in this channel that do if it is just for a single raid boss.
the quest flag 72804 survived reset on US, we will have to see next Cata TW
at least that's less than 2 months away this round.
@warped plume did your alt who got your 2nd wishwing also get the 72804 quest flag?
i'll check in a sec
yep, both my characters showing true for 72804 after reset as well
I don't remember if anyone checked alts that have not done the quest to see if 72804 is an account-wide quest flag.
I think I did when I got it, let me double-check
my alt doesn't have the quest flagged
did blizz forget to turn TW Cata off?
hm. the vendor is supposed to be there for a while for turn-ins but this, dunno
OR ELSE
Mage Tower 0.5 please π
anyone on NA want to see if we can get a 2nd ember to drop?
what time is EU's weekly reset?
3/4am GMT Wednesday morning.
yep 6 cest = 4 gmt
it ends tomorrow for me?
NA week resets 13 hours before EU
should have just ran firelands on multiple toon kek
eh, I capped this round at 3 toons
you get a group together? just wondering cause the quest A Shrouded Path Through Time is still up for me.
nvm, it's for Mists TW
interesting that Cata kicked off this back to back TW event
i was only able to get 4 people into the group so i wasn't able to see if it'd actually let us into TW FL even though the TP npc is still up
might need to run our feathered friend through these TW's
it's only a couple of hours till EU reset, it might disappear after their reset. But it might be like the Legion one that stayed up.
I'm available if you want to try again.
yeah, i've listed a group to see if i can get 9 ppl.
did you ask in wow general for volunteers
I have not
sigh, now we wait for May 23
we got a grp but it did not let us queue
ok, so wishwing will do a timestop animation
Are you mounted? That's what happens when that model attempts to do its sitting or sleeping idle animations but it is in its 'flight' mode because its owner is on a mount.
It just freezes its animations because it can't fly and sit at the same time.
I tested that, and it would do it both while I was mounted and not mounted.
it would be sleeping and sit up and freeze for a few secs and then face plant back to sleep
I haven't noticed that behaviour yet without something causing it to cycle into flight mode or it not resolving its flight mode before attempting to run an idle animation, but I'll keep an eye open for it.
And you're sure you weren't mounted? Because I got it to do that by waiting until it idled; forcing it to cycle into flight mode by mounting up on Otto until it snapped into its frozen animation; and then dismounted so it'd resume its regular animation.
it just did it while I was in flight form sitting on the ground not in flight
So you were mounted.
i'm in the druid legion hub in my flight form but sitting on the ground not flying
If you are on any sort of mount, even ground mounts, even on the ground, that model of minipet cycles into its flight mode.
Ohuna Companion, Wakyn, Ashenwing, Wishwing Phoenix, etc.
ok, so went out of flight form and he face planted on the ground sleeping
It freezes animation in a mid-flight pose because that's how the game is resolving conflicting directives on what animation it should be in.
this bird sleeps too much
They're all narcoleptic.
I keep having to resummon them because I stop for one second, they fall asleep, and don't wake up to keep following me.
yep, I let him cycle through his animations and as soon as he went to sleep I went into flight form and a he did timestop
the crater is still packed with people
try to put feline familiar on the sweeper toy from Suramar π
Ya might be better to just wait out a couple weeks or do the starter acct party sync method and just deal w/ not instashotting mobs
Probs the latter since next week is nobelgarden and there's achievements in the crater, so ppl might try to hit two birds with one stone
This is my 2nd rodeo at the crater.
π»
Just gotta say imo it's bad etiquette to kill a phoenix but not kill the feather and leave it to bait other players to clean up your trash.
But if you kill the feather the phoenix you just killed can't rise from it's ashes and be reborn.
Just think if Blizz handled it a different way, if you don't kill the feather the reborn phoenix could drop loot. It would also drop a feather to respawn. An unending cycle of loot pinata...those poor birds endlessly slaughtered...
Kill it 144 times?
oh damn, hadn't even thought about if they had the loot changed based on how many times it respawned...
Some crazy possibilities...and some evil trolling if someone kills the feather before the respawn so the whole cycle would have to start over...
smoldering ash seems to be dropping better, or it drops better for lower lvls, I already have 5 and have only been at it for about 3 hours.
just turned lvl 62
farming scalecracker keep
yep, better drop rates at lvl 62, already at 10
Btw have we figured out if u can get the ember more than once on different alts? I saw some discussions earlier but all i got is confused.
Or is it once per account sorta thing
I know the TW is over at this point but i just finished farming out the other stuff and 700k sounds like decent cash if you can farm it out again when it's cheaper
yes you can, I have 3 embers on 3 different toons. I'm on a lower lvl toon checking drop rates. Inert was no difference, but smoldering is definitely dropping better on this lvl 62
I believe it was getting the pet more then once on the same char that was in question? I know someone was trying to get another Alysrazor run going while TW was still active but don't remember seeing if they were successful.
we will know tonight
nvm, I'm on an alt
Lol.
we were not successful, it gave an error listing everyone in raid individually saying we don't meet the requirements.
ah
this was after Cata TW was over but the Cata TW que vendor was still up with the que option.
There's a known bug with the cinder for the TW token quest not dropping from Ragnaros and people having to open GM tickets to receive it. Perhaps they left the questgiver up for a short time to give people chance to wait for GM responses and hand in.
The questgiver being up for the next day is normal, not so much the queues tho π
Timewalking is going on for the next couple weeks
but it's MoP timewalking now
Yes
Short wait this time.
Not sure if im more grateful of the pet or the bagspaces i desperately needed back! π
I got really lucky today and got 5 smoldering ashes drop within 15 mins at the slagmire. This last week ive been lucky to get 1 per hour so this was a really nice surprise today. Anyone else had an increase in drop rate?
yeah had a rough go at it today farmed for about 2 hours got 0 at Scalekracker Keep. ugg gonna be a long grind
If you have a tank spec avail on what you're playing, you can easily farm up 8-15 in 1 hour. the method i used to farming 200 of them was 10 runs of neltharus an hour, doing the right side wing with all the phoenixes in 1 pull (takes 2-3min per run). it's around 20-25 phoenixes in 1 pull.
was able to do it even on a 340 tank as long as the difficulty was on normal
No spec will deal with the crowded Un'goro unfortunately.
and I tried to Chromie Time myself without an extra account, no bueno π
yeah unfortunately. just gotta pray someone lists a group with it being a dead/empty server
This was my spot where i got 5 very quickly. The red circles are where phoenixes spawn, very quickly too, and the long red line is a route where 2 fly over head.
yeah sadly im a squishy rogue so tried that method but its a tougher slog than it needs to be for me.
yeah, it's only really meant for tanks to do for those who have a tank spec avail to their class.
I was able to get all 15 of them at scalecraker keep in just a few hours on my lvl 61, she dinged lvl 63, so I got a bonus of 2 lvls to boot, now to get her to lvl 70
the mage had no issues at scalecraker, had a route where I was only on the ground for 3- phoenix, fly into the ones in the air and they will follow you to the cliffs
Isn't there a group of phoenixes you kill for the tuskarr quest southwest of scalecracker?
Carrion Phoenix
@warped plume thanks for the tip DH is the one I mainly play and have farmed other stuff on so that works. as for @kind willow thanks as well for the spot. I have killed so many over time (Rep Farming in that area and only have 1.... Ugg love my bad RNG) I have terrible luck farming stuff like this in open world be it rare drops or mats/items like this. However have had decent luck with mount drops like Ashes, Invincible, Baron in Stratholme. I got alot of those rather quickly. I guess its ok in the end.
hwo do you get that toy ?
It's a beverage.
rip
Hello? Is this a channel that could help with Endless Halls maze for Lucid Nightmare mount?
no, since that has been a solved secret for some time now, you can ask questions about it in #mounts
or check out #guides
Is the reward only the pet ?
You're in the Phoenix Talisman thread, which rewards a pet, yes
Thx wasnβt sure if it could be linked to anything else
To be fair.... We dont know that yet. It could eventually lead to something else where its required that you have either the Necklace from Zek or that you need the Pet itself to complete something. so far the only thing we know is the pet. could be more already in game that we have not found or could be added later with this requirement being the first step in the totality of it.
is anyone hanging onto a Glittering Phoenix Ember till next TW to see if the raid will drop another one if you have one in your bags?
I have one on multiple toons. I didnt plan on holding them but farming had been so brutal for the other parts since solve that I have not done it so if I still have them in there I can test.
I think it's only relevance would be for pet farmers. If you can only have 1 in inventory at a time then it means you better do the grind and turn in before next TW or be sol that round.
right. worth finding out at the least for others here that will farm it. my guess is it wont allow it but maybe I can see if I run it and dont get one with it in bags. but then turn it in if i can get one then. would link it to per TW 1 can drop possibly.
if a 2nd one does drop it will also let us know if the quest is a 1-time quest for each TW.
yep
I still have one but that's more my unwillingness to farm Inert. I suppose I can always copy this to PTR, finding the group howeverβ¦ π
I have one too I plan on hanging onto
Oh man it was all for a stupid battle pet π¦
The riddles were simple the farms tedious, all the hype around it was just looking more into it then needed.
Usually I would wince at this but yeah it isn't even that interesting other than filling the appearance set.
End of this month if I remember right...
I tried bringing out my wishwing while fighting emberdusk - nothing happened, I was hopeful there would be a quest like the falcosaurs lol; i.e. it would turn into a mount XD
for 10.1.5
Hooray!
sweet, glad I put off doing the farm for the ember I have saved for testing .
received a 2nd glittering phoenix ember on the same character
hmm
are we sure this was repeatable?
I don't have the option for a 2nd turn-in
Thank you for your sacrifice, may your fire lore shine brighter than the Fyrakk's flames π«‘
Does /run print(C_QuestLog.IsQuestFlaggedCompleted(72798)) say true?
we did have a quest flag when handing in the first tales of the phoenix quest. I don't have the pet on me since I sold it, unless the pet is a requirement for a 2nd turn-in? otherwise, why can I buy the items again??
i'll check
false
that's odd. Are you in the middle of his questlines? maybe this interferes?
it didn't for the first turn-in for anyone. I just did the one quest just to make sure it's not bugging out. still no tales of the phoenix 2nd turn-in
going to try & relog
nope still no 2nd option for the turn-in
this is weird, the ID I provided is this very quest
72804 which matjz said got flagged for the turn-in is still true for me
so that flag is to prevent you from doing the turn-in again
strange way of doing stuff
well that sucks
wait, you have 186 smoldering phoenix ashes? you can scratch phoenix genocide from your to-do list
yeah i farmed up 200 before we found it
now question is is it one pet per account
per toon
I still have an ember on am alt, still gonna check and see if it will drop with 1 in your bag when I log in tonight.
I have 2 pets
nice
My druid and my mage completed, my rp druid still has the ember
still need to see if the account gets locked at 3 pets.
@warped plume see if you can find another vendor, maybe for a different skin color?
I wouldn't trash the currency just yet
yeap i'm holding onto it just incase
a second glittering ember will drop if you already have one in your bags, they do not stack
See, all these tickets sent in with questions. They could've instead asked for the quest to re-appear 
Guys, I've killed at least 100 Scorchling Elementals in Un'Goro by now. I have gotten 0 ashes?! I read and re-read the guide and there seems to be no pre-requisite?
Am I supposed to do something before I get these to drop?
Well...if you are killing Scorch'L'ing Elementals, then your problem is you are killing the wrong ones.
Scorchlings are actually a mob in the game, so just making sure
It can be horrific, though from what I read they added it to the drop table of the other elemental there too.
So it is easier now then it used to be
I am killing the Blazes too
Solo, or are others farming too?
Then yeah, get a good route going and settle in for the long haul.
Then be thankful that both types of mobs drop the ash now.
Grind took some of us multiple days.
While others bragged about finishing in a few hours.
Sorry to be the bearer of bad news but the updated drop chance and additional mob drop isnβt coming until 10.1.5β¦
...oh...ouch
kill and loot everything on that mountain to increase respawn rate.
I am.
you're in warmode - kill everything, it's a LONG grind on that one
are the other parts of the grind easier?
Lol I havenβt done that yet either
Smoldering Ash is really easy if you cycle the spawns at scalecraker keep
Got my glittering ember and was like welp! Iβm done
you didn't get your fire birdy last TW
Do we have the step-by-step for this? I was away from wow for a while and started farming it on my DK but I am a bit lost as how to how the mats in the pins relate to killing the TWing Alysrazor.
Part one, Kill Timewalking Alysrazor for her drop
It would be delightful to pin the step-by-step process.
Farm the other two from the elementals around the volcano in Un'Goro and from the urns in Spires of Arak. Turn them in to the vendor in the Spires to get the Talisman. Grab the item from ...actually...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_XX5b7P3oY Watch this, just found it
A short but detailed guide on how to get Phoenix Wishwing, the secret pet from the Dragonflight expansion.
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Thank you!
All the painfull grinds can be done at any time, reccommend doing them early and spacing it out to not go crazy, then you can grab the Ember next TW when you get the chance.
Yep, all for a pet
don't make fun of pets. you can do stuff in the world with them. a mount is mostly a +1 you'll use like 20 max.
though when it comes to pets, the % wouldn't be way off. this little cutie is a bit too generic for such a grind!'
did a little tiny bit of testing on the 10.1.5 ptr with the updated drops, didn't get a full 20 for a pet but I did get 10 inert phoenix ash in 20minutes with the new change.
are the drop changes not live yet?
the changes to the inert ash dropping from both eles is a 10.1.5 change
There isnt steps...its things that can be done in most any order. π There is a pinned thing with everything.
Step 1 - Get the 3 items needed to purchase Talisman
Step 2 - Buy Talisman
Step 3 - Talk to Djardin dude in Waking Shores.
Step 4 - Get more stuff (cause yeah that's how blizz does things)
Step 5 - Go back and talk to dude and get pet.
Note: you can already have the more stuff if you already know what he wants in addition to the Talisman.
"Checklist" works if you prefer that semantically.
Okay but it was more about teh farming aspect. you can farm all that stuff at leisure or frenetically. those items dont gate the other. Then yes you do the steps to buy it.
i take the point though, there are overall steps π
Yep, he asked for steps. Guess I should have tagged him instead
Finally
i really wish they would let us que for timewalking raids...i feel like ill never get this pet bc of how hard it is to get a group
You kinda can, they are just listed under the custom option. It's usually not hard to find a group, you just need to type in firelands or Alysrazor under the custom tab during that timewalking event.
You can always start your own as well, just remember to be clear that you are just after Alysrazor. It would be quite rude to let people think you are doing a full run only to drop after the one boss.
Ive never done it period, so i wouldnt be comfortable crating a group. I know you can find groups, but it would just be simpler if i could que, that way im not rejected for any reason.
Timewalking raids are not like raidfinder. Difficulty wise they can be far more demanding. Also, being able to queue would absolutely suck as you would likely be tossed in as a backfill after Alysrazor with all the people that would queue for the raid then leave after that fight. Using the group finder and setting up a group just for Alysrazor is far more straight forward and far less time consuming.
blizz removing the TW requirement would be far more straight forward and far less time consuming.
Yeah...but then it would ruin the clue. π They might also have to change the vendor value then? Isn't it higher then the typical loot if running it as a legacy raid?
lol, it's already solved. there's nothing left to ruin
Not everyone lives on this discord, some players out there might even be playing WoW without using Wowhead...
Omg, I made the wishwing the first day we solved it. Put it on the AH cause why not.. Well in my stupidity my sub ran out and didn't renew it for a month. Lost it to the void. rip my hours farming in ungoro lol
Does the quest show as completed? If so, maybe make a ticket? Or check stable master if they have that pet (though I severely doubt it because stable master pets can't be traded)
Don't know, it should do. Doubt I'd get it back considering I tried to sell it π I did try the recovery when I logged on but alas didn't work :(


