#Phoenix Ash Talisman [SOLVED]

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plain willow
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and slowly will drop

graceful moon
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Perfectly reasonable for a time locked item with a minimum of 12 hour grind

foggy pulsar
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too low imo

cold fable
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yeah, I will say around 350-500k around Firelands TW, nearly 1m midway to Firelands

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similar to holiday mounts

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it should double in price

daring scroll
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Also depends on its abilities for pet battling, if it ends up being the perfect pet for a particular pet battle the value will go up.

graceful moon
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has anyone done firelands tw twice on the same toon?

cold fable
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for the people hoping this is only the first step the fact that it flagged a hidden quest may be a hint that this is a step for something else

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or its a flag that says "this character had completed the quest, so tarjin shouldn't give them the quest again"

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who knows

graceful moon
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do you have to do the multiple weeklys that tarjin has or can it be done with only having a few of them done?

cold fable
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I have all tarjin weeklies completed, so I will not be sure if they are a requirement

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we need more people to obtain the talisman to check

warped plume
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I do not

cold fable
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there you go

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isn't a requirement

graceful moon
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alright, but we DO know that we need the feather amulet so it adds a bit of extra value as that area is phased as no npcs are there if you havnt done the story, true it shouldnt take too long but still

sturdy glen
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the ash feather amulet?

graceful moon
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yea

sturdy glen
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is that needed to turn in the quest and get the pet?

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it wasnt needed for the ember

flint star
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you need 20 ash feathers

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for the turn-in

sturdy glen
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aaaaaah didnt see that

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neat

flint star
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and 15 smoldering phoenix ash

sturdy glen
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aaaaaaaaaay

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that tortollan charm tho

graceful moon
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i wonder if we can get multiple embers during the same week....

foggy pulsar
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next we find lord crowleys old spectacles

graceful moon
sturdy glen
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no not satisfying enough needs to be a Secretℒ️

flint star
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Time-Lost Phoenix Hatchling is the only unaccounted for tint of a phoenix minipet, now; the blue one and the red one are rare drops from the Forbidden Reach (Wakyn and Ashenwing respectively) and the orange Wishwing is from this.

cold fable
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yeah, the tortollan charm might just be a way for people to get to mechagon (if they lack the teleport) or to get to stormsong for the bee rep farm, who knows

flint star
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and it may just not be implemented.

plain willow
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what I dont get now is that how is Arakkoa related to this pet :/

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kinda unrelated

daring scroll
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bird worship

flint star
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yeah they like birds

plain willow
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:S

cold fable
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I leveled it to 25 just to be sure that it wasn't a falcosaur type deal and nothing

round tartan
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So this thing actually dropped from timewalking?

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And it only rewards a pet?

daring scroll
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yep

sturdy glen
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only? it's a neat pet

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smol bird of flime

flint star
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Would've been much neater if it was available before the other phoenix hatchling minipets, but. Still pretty damn cute.

round tartan
daring scroll
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They were in denial about the simplicity of the TW solution. πŸ˜›

sturdy glen
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people do it for the fun of it, it's only a waste of time if you see it that way

plain willow
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mount

flint star
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the flavor text couldn't have been more explicit that it dropped from TW Alysrazor without directly namedropping her.

plain willow
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something that would have been more Arakkoa and time related

sturdy glen
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it was time related

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timewalking

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the description didnt have anything referencing arakkoa

cold fable
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I still have my copium because of the hidden quest it flagged

daring scroll
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well they are doing the shortened TW cycle right? So Cat TW will come back around far faster then before, that will let you farm a second Ember and the other parts to see if the pet can be collected more then once on a single char or if the quest flag is to limit it to once per char.

sturdy glen
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you get more chances at ember than you do ghost moose, as was pointed out earlier

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so it isnt really that harsh of a timegate

flint star
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frankly it's the various ashes that are more of a hindrance.

graceful moon
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every 3 weeks is a tw even instead of every 3-6 πŸ™‚

sturdy glen
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people will have plenty of time to compete for fire plume ridge spots while they wait for the next TW roto

rugged raven
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you can solo the moose tho

sturdy glen
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right, i just mean from a "it's messed up to timegate stuff like that" standpoint

ashen dawn
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yeh this inert drop rate is awful

rugged raven
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another archaeology item is Wyrmy Tunkins, isn't that bad anymore, but raid + rare drops are different

cold fable
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I farmed the inert during the prepatch event so I was leeching off the groups doing the Un'Goro Elemental Storm to phase around, it was fast that way

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now tha the jig is up they might fix some of the drop rates, and maybe change the ember to drop from Alysrazor without Timewalking, who knows, I can hope they do because it is painful

daring scroll
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As I have said before, Blizz has had worse timegates before. The benefit of the TW version is you can simply mark your calendar as as reminder then go do other things, as opposed to having to constantly check a spot for the random quest spawns some of the other timegates are.

sturdy glen
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the timegating only seems harsh if you assume this was a secret hunt intended to start at zektar.

haughty vector
warped plume
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decided to go back and try it, you cannot loot a 2nd glittering phoenix ember on the same character.

daring scroll
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You don't get drops more then once from a raid boss on a char in a single lock out anyway right? The real test will be next Cata TW.

bright berry
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I AM SO PROUD, yall did it

balmy elbow
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Looooooooooool I called it being cata time walking alysrazor 3 months ago. Glad I waited to see.

plain willow
sturdy glen
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the sacred ash was the only one where they were part of the hint. inert ash was related to the ungoro phoenix

daring scroll
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The real question, is if somewhere among all the text for Tarjin, there was something pointing us to spires to talk to Zektar.

sturdy glen
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i dunno if we would have known to go to tarjin right after getting the ember

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assuming we found ember first

kind willow
weary trellis
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any good spot to farm green feathers? 😒

daring scroll
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which is why I wonder if Tarjin could have been the possible start...

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if he points us to Zektar, then we use the hints to track down the pieces and take the result back to Tarjin.

tropic gust
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I'm farming phoenixes with the worldbreaker title so i'm getting magmotes too >< ima get a mount out of farming this lol

plain willow
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can you equip the pet as shoulder?

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by whistling

weary trellis
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is a hell farm phoenix in walking shores, so low drop >.<

worldly drum
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wait its solved?

plain willow
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we need 15x smoldering and 20x Ash Feather too?

worldly drum
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i literally only checked yesterday whats going on

tropic gust
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TW dropped today

plain willow
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stupid NA vs EU timezones...

tropic gust
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that was the biggest hope, and it was there, after that, clean up.

worldly drum
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i was gonna say im eu so i havent got shit

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xD

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damn i was hoping for the mount ngl

daring scroll
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Bleh, call em Urns at least instead of cookpots damnit. πŸ˜›

worldly drum
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OH YEAH CATACLYSM TIMEWALKING LETS GO

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WE ALL REALLY WANTED THAT HUH

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😭

daring scroll
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better then a random very low chance drop from elsewhere.

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Looks like a 100% drop chance for everyone from Alysrazor in TW, much more reliable method to get it.

plain willow
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so fucking bad imo

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from Blizzard

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but it was obvious

worldly drum
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Yeah I have to say its not something im overly keen on tbh

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it's just annoying we called it months ago and tried so much stuff and well

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we were right all along lol

plain willow
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yeah

daring scroll
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Which means they made it clear from the start so we wouldn't waste time on it...then we wasted time on it anyway. πŸ˜›

vapid surge
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Well, this was a disappointment find.

worldly drum
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i think theyshouldve just held off with the items being available until TW

plain willow
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and who ever got it world first is not getting any fame πŸ˜„

daring scroll
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How so, it means we also found out the use for the amulet and the smoldering ash.

flint star
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Secret finding isn't about fame.

worldly drum
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but i guess they have to get people cogs turning considering itll only be here for a week, make sure they find it

daring scroll
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Now we can check a bunch of the questionable items off the list and free up bag space.

plain willow
vapid surge
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Wasn't it mentioned it wouldn't be part of tw???

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Sheesh

flint star
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You should work on secrets because you want to find the solution, not because you want 15 minutes of fame.

flint star
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Blizzard never said it wasn't TWing.

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People in this server just said it wouldn't be because they didn't want it to be.

gleaming ridge
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well now to find a group that does TW raids...

vapid surge
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Quite disappointing really, the long hunt leading to only a battle pet.

flint star
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Wasn't a long hunt, either. It was just timegated for most of its existence.

worldly drum
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Happy for the battle pet people though despite that

ashen dawn
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anytime a secret isn't a mount ppl get sad

worldly drum
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guess i finally have to go farming for the rest of the un goro ash huh

ashen dawn
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I love the pet and toys ones thou

flint star
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Within 24 hours of learning about the Phoenix Ash Talisman we already figured the source for all 3 of the reagents β€” we just couldn't get to Timewalking Alysrazor until now. Soon as Dragonflight dropped, we figured the Ash Feathers and Smoldering Phoenix Ash would somehow be involved.

If everything had been available from the start we'd have solved this in a day or less.

gleaming ridge
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How do you queue for Firelands without a group?

flint star
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You talk to one of the NPCs in the little Timewalking set-up for Cataclysm.

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There should be a second NPC other than the vendor that lets you queue.

gleaming ridge
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It keeps telling me my group isn't big enough

daring scroll
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might need 5 minimum?

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if trying to start one

topaz forge
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i think the group i was with had to have 20 before the NPC would let the leader queue

flint star
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If only the Ember was BoA or tradeable. then I could just get in a group on my priest as a healer and ship it to my hunter who did the ash farm.

gleaming ridge
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Well I'm starting a group in legacy raids

tropic gust
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when i did a group i took 14 people, you don't need 20

topaz forge
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idk, i wasn't the leader, just saying what they were

astral ermine
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you can start a Firelands Timewalking raid with a premade group of 10-30 people, it's not something you can queue into until you have at least 10

manic cape
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I see the command to cage it, is there a command to summon it?

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/summonpet Phoenix Wishwing

stray knoll
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Can we get a pin for the last bit after you get the talisman?

jovial narwhal
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So what do you get from finally finishing this? Blue ashes of alar? copium

sturdy glen
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#1048769371880816640 message this sweet angel

weary trellis
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they hotfixed the drop chance on green ash feathers?

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I don't know if it's just my luck but they started dropping a lot now to me

neat star
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Utter poopsie

astral ermine
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I'm currently dying on the Un'goro ash......only halfway through after a couple hours sadge

daring scroll
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faster then when I farmed it then, maybe they boosted the drop rate. πŸ˜›

astral ermine
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(and by dying I mean my soul is dying lol)

vale geode
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grats to those loyal to the Alys theory

twilit arrow
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i wonder why they implemented it this way lol, you would think they would have done it in reverse, so you get the ash and have to figure out what to do with it instead of trying to figure out how to get the ash that you simply couldn't get

vale geode
sturdy glen
vale geode
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@twilit arrow I don't think the items were meant to be found on ptr and they just left it that way since changing it would have been a bigger fiasco with this group

twilit arrow
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sure but there was no way you wouldn't get a smouldering ash

gilded narwhal
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15 Ungoro ash, light at the horizon!

vale geode
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and that wouldn't have been an issue if we didn't know about Zektar and his new inventory

twilit arrow
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it definitely would have tho lol

cold fable
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the problem is that nothing points at Zektar

sturdy glen
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that is true

cold fable
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Zektar was designed to be found first imo

vale geode
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not really, the turtle shell is not an issue and we don't know if it's for something or a red herring

cold fable
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the description of the items hint at where they can be found, and they can all be seen at Zektar

sturdy glen
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def would still make sense that zektar was step 1 dont get me wrong

cold fable
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that is how I found the Ash in Spires of Arak, because of the description of the Sacred Ash

vale geode
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I disagree with the ember being a 6-month time gate

twilit arrow
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im pretty certain this discord has tried a billion different extremely unlikely ways to get the ember

visual walrus
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It seems to me alone that this is not the end yet? What about the feathers id 442?

twilit arrow
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if we didnt know about zektar and got the ash that says
"Once living flame, now merely ash. Perhaps living flame again someday?" we would have found zektar

vale geode
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LOL, I was throwing rocks at the crows in Legion. 🀣

daring scroll
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for the 442, 20 spawns, and 20 feathers needed to turn in?

cold fable
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everything remotely related to phoenixes, dragons, firebirds, or even just plain birds got to meet the business end of a sword from everyone in this discord when we were searching for the ember

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the hint was there that it might be alysrazor from timewalking, but the copium was real that it might be available at the moment

astral ermine
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the "years and moments" definitely makes sense now for Timewalking

daring scroll
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It always made sense, people were just in denial. πŸ˜›

sturdy glen
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i was definitely among the reluctant, but after a few months it really seemed like the most likely thing

twilit arrow
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its a shame that quite a few "secrets" seem to be turning out to be not solvable secrets but are just time gates. Ancient stones are apparently just lore stones in 10.1, this was a timegate for TW, the wu'de prepfoot got removed and the waygate was fixable with an item from 10.0.7

cold fable
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it was the last hope, if it didn't drop from Alysrazor then we will be lost

ionic cobalt
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Yeah idk I do think TWing would have been the first step

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Since it’s a guaranteed drop

cold fable
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the 100% drop is required

ionic cobalt
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That leads you to Zektar, then you see the other two items with their descriptions

sturdy glen
cold fable
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something that can only be done once per character every 4 months

twilit arrow
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yeah its weird they implement puzzles that are 95% solvable fully knowing you simply cant solve it

daring scroll
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Still think all the text from Tarjin needs to be checked to see if anything might have pointed us to Zektar from him.

cold fable
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how does the Ember leads you to Zektar?

ionic cobalt
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I don’t know lol

vale geode
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well my highlight was how much fun and laughing at myself I had chasing those damn feathers around King's Rest

cold fable
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Zektar leads you to the Ember, and if you know nothing about the Ember when it drops for you at Alysrazor you learn about it from the community, this game is designed like that

twilit arrow
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@sturdy glen i mean when they word it in a way that clearly hints at secret such as "Perhaps it's waiting for something" while also having it be interactable and do absolutely nothing, then of course we're going to think its a secret

sturdy glen
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we also think skyboxes are secrets

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and engineer teleport spots

cold fable
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every pixel holds a secret

ionic cobalt
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Be sure to look for literal sky caves in 10.1 <3

twilit arrow
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the engineer teleporter spots are understandable tho lol

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if they just made them interactable and say "Requires engineering" no one would think its a secret

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same with profession knowledge treasures

cold fable
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the engineer triangulation spots were a mystery for around 24hs when I saw their name in Wowhead cache

vale geode
cold fable
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it was pretty early on beta as well

sturdy glen
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right but a majority of new content is a mystery at the very start, that doesnt mean they are intended secrets. we just dont know the things

vale geode
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thank you for the psa

cold fable
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Zektar was always going to be found first, Draenor is the premium leveling expansion with Chromie Time, and he is right near a world boss that drops a mount

twilit arrow
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Sure, but they also don't have to make those things interactable or visible when they do absolutely nothing besides hint that they do something

sturdy glen
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videogames can hint things for later

visual walrus
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Someone has already run with a phoenix chick and an amulet buff on the Slagmire and Burning Ascent?

twilit arrow
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sure but theres legitimately no point whatsoever for some of the things they "hint for later" Like what purpose does having the ancient stones be interactable have?

vale geode
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drive us crazy?

sturdy glen
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To hint that they will one day be of importance, like later when they have lore that coincides with the next big patch

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there are similar stones down in the underground place IIRC, it's all likely just connected story stuff that wasn't meant for the start.

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there's an achievement and everything

twilit arrow
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But why? Its immediately obvious that they are important within 30 minutes of 10.1 when you find one, click it, and it progresses an achievement

cold fable
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the Ancient Stones were probably meant to be an achievement with lore about the Dragon Isles and be there at release, maybe the developer placing them didn't had the time to finish the lore in them and had to scrap them, but instead of deleting them just placed placeholder text on them

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it may be of reason that a developer may not be able to just place lore items scattered around without consulting whoever is in charge of lore

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and the deadline for the expansion release might have been a bit tight

sturdy glen
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early BFA there was that part in tiragarde with the gnomes and robots. it was to hint for later expansion content like mechagon

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if people assumed there was some secret about that area, that was because they were looking for secrets

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Blizz can't control what we interpret as clues

vale geode
cold fable
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the ocean is always guilty of this, because new developers apparently are tasked with filling the oceans around the continent with decoration and some of them end up being like "holy shit, are this giant bones part of a secret?"

sturdy glen
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a map copypasted in 23 spots across the shadowlands is sus?

vale geode
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you really like those SL's maps

twilit arrow
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I mean theres a huge difference between taking something that has no indication of a secret and trying to paint it as one and taking something that literally says theres more to it as a secret

sturdy glen
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the stones definitely hinted at something for later but there was no implied garauntee that it was ready to go then

cold fable
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the phoenix was a proper secret imo, the only issue was the timewalking aspect of it

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we got hints to where we needed to go to find the items

sturdy glen
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it's up there with otto in terms of complexity

cold fable
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shame that Otto was bugged

twilit arrow
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it would have been a better secret imo if it had started with timewalking tho

vale geode
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which is part of the main reason I don't think the items were meant to found in ptr and they left it that way since they had been found. We would have tied the ember and the amulet and the green ash together without Zektar and went out into the world looking form him.

cold fable
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Zektar would have been found if the Ash Talisman was always visible on him

vale geode
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he was found on ptr because a ptr'er got bored and went out looking for stuff.

cold fable
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they should have made the Ember be the start by its flavor text saying something like "the beating heart of a phoenix, blablabla hint at zektar"

twilit arrow
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Zektar would have been found likely today if we got the ember as the first clue

cold fable
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the smoldering ash would have been enough to find zektar

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hell, someone randomly killing elementals in un'goro

sturdy glen
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i mean they've accidentally added stuff meant for later and then removed it before right? wasnt trubul at least visible on the collection log?

vale geode
vale geode
hazy field
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It's still silly to me to lock this behind a once-every-six-months event.

I mean, the clue was super obvious, but it still feels shitty to have all of these elaborate steps in the game and have the capstone locked behind a timegated thing like that

thorn sentinel
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Not touching this secret if its locked behind some pug timewalking raid

twilit arrow
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And now we have quite a few phoenix related items with zero use so far

cold fable
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not the first silly thing locked behind once-every-six-months event, it is also a pet so it has less demand from the players, if it was a mount like the archeology moose then everyone will be rising hell by now

vale geode
thorn sentinel
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Small indie company..

twilit arrow
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Having the puzzle be 95% solvable was extremely shitty

vale geode
thorn sentinel
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I know I read thus saying why not touching it

cold fable
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well, the bright side is that there is no reason for this phoenix to flag a hidden quest when the phoenix is not unique and is tradeable, Tarjin might have a thing or two to say on 10.1 and this hidden flag might come in handy because it is the "Tale of the Phoenix"

astral ermine
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the Alysrazor part was honestly probably one of the easiest

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these grinds are worse imo

sturdy glen
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is it really a teams and winning thing? it's just people working together to solve puzzles

thorn sentinel
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attached to a sub again for 6 months is the end game for this secret obviously

twilit arrow
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whats going to be extemely shitty is if it turns into a mount with the other seemingly useless phoenix items and people have to wait for next cata TW

sturdy glen
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nobody should be "against" the people who have different ideas than them.

vale geode
thorn sentinel
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I going to laugh if its some toy or a holy trash item]

cold fable
twilit arrow
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have people already confirmed its loot locked?

thorn sentinel
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Blizzard doesn't make sense they make $

crystal mantle
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Smoldering Phoenix Ash x15 will be the death of me.

astral ermine
cold fable
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I saved every single smoldering ash I got since launch, luckily being an engineer the profession quests makes you kill phoenixes

vale geode
crystal mantle
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Is the ash 100% from alysrazor?

vale geode
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puts more players in TW raids for Firelands

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yes, everyone in raid gets it

cold fable
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it is push loot, you don't even need to touch the body of the stupid bird

vale geode
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but the ember was already in my bags

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so where is the best place to farm the smoldering ash? I only have 3. 😭

stray knoll
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Lol, just got the pet from Tarjin, used it, and… it’s not in my pet journal. GG. Anyone else have this issue?

daring scroll
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known issue

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check pins, I think it had the command to summon it?

cold fable
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there is a rock on Scalecracker Keep where I farm my Explosive Ash for the engineering quest that is full of Phoenixes, when you kill them fly around the area and kill the ones scattered around, then return to the rock

vale geode
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yep, the is a command in the pin for caging it and another in the comments for summoning it

cold fable
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you can use /summonpet Phoenix Wishwing to summon it, if you want to place it in a team you have to use an script to put it in your cursor

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I wrote the script somewhere, let me check

stray knoll
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Ah

vale geode
cold fable
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pick up the pet to place it in a team or in an action bar

/run local p=C_PetJournal p.PickupPet(select(2,p.FindPetIDByName("Phoenix Wishwing")))```
cage the pet (it needs to be free, so not in a team)

/run local p=C_PetJournal p.CagePetByID(select(2,p.FindPetIDByName("Phoenix Wishwing")))```

vale geode
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<@&285953105202511872>
pin command Pls

cold fable
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it is pinned, at least the cage one, the pickup is mostly if you want to use it

vale geode
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they only pinned the one to cage it

cold fable
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you might need to change the name for other languages, which is a pain

severe topaz
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Yeah just update your pin Mat plz

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πŸ˜„

cold fable
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oh, will do then

severe topaz
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Thanks

tacit oriole
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Are there any groups running specifically for Alysrazor on NA in the near future?

daring scroll
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For those unable to get a raid going for this TW...the abbreviated schedule Blizz is running in the near future puts the next Cat TW at May 23.

vale geode
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well, one things for certain, we are NOT the ones that truly worship the firebird since we gotta kill them for the smoldering ash

tacit oriole
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I can start a group just for Alysrazor in legacy raids if we can get at least 10 peeps to join. Is it 10 minimum? I am NA Alliance. Any thoughts?

crystal mantle
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I assume I can still join another firelands group for alys if my group fell apart at aly after killing another boss?

crystal mantle
native rapids
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if you do ill go im currently locked to spider boss and my group failed on her 😦

crystal mantle
native rapids
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yes lol

crystal mantle
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Like πŸ™„ Gee, I wonder what went wrong, there's 2 giant adds and 1 was mowing through the dps. I WONDER WHAT YOU DID WRONG

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It's a mystery.

tacit oriole
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Can the talisman be looted on Normal?

crystal mantle
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Has to be timewalking

tacit oriole
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Yes

crystal mantle
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There's only 1 difficulty in timewalking

tacit oriole
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Hmmmm

crystal mantle
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To my knowledge at least lol

native rapids
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and i believe you que up from the major city

crystal mantle
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Let's see if this group is any better. There's another group Lizzie

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Led by Andraxol

native rapids
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i qued up waiting for approval

crystal mantle
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Whcih one are you?

native rapids
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shadownite

crystal mantle
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Bah they decided to just go with what we have

native rapids
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its ok goodluck though

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oh i found your group diabolica

tacit oriole
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Ok I have a group listed for Timewalking FL Alysrazor only. Not sure what I am doing though, lol

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I mean I am not sure if I listed properly.

native rapids
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you did, if you see the eyeball down on your UI

tacit oriole
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Yup

native rapids
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just open and accept people who applied

tacit oriole
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Can it be done with just 10 people?

native rapids
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honestly dont know

sonic palm
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NGL happy its found but sad it was where it was πŸ˜›

tacit oriole
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This may not happen tonight. No bites yet.

astral ermine
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10 people minimum, yes

tacit oriole
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Ty

astral ermine
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and once you have that many you can go to the NPC in your major city to queue for it

tacit oriole
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Thanks. I am in front of npc now. Just no joiners for group.

jade crypt
#

Good spot to farm the smoldering ash? I'm in the Slagmire where I swear they used to hyperspawn but now its just dead

daring scroll
#

Just trying for Alysrazor right? Not the full raid?

tacit oriole
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Yup.

daring scroll
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wonder if my hunter is geared enough for it, not sure how scaling will have me stack up...

tacit owl
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@tacit oriole its because of the way yours is listed TBH. Most players running firelands are doing it for boss kills for the weekly. Very few know about the ember at all

tacit oriole
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I have never done timewalking before so I have no idea how that works.

trim dune
#

well that was a lackluster conclusion, hopefully we can grow it up into a mount

daring scroll
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It would be lying to list the whole thing though if we are dropping after alysrazor

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heh, I am right at the 370 cutoff...

tacit owl
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@daring scroll i lvl requirment is only 370 so Scaling shouldn't be to bad, but you do have to follow mechanics

tacit oriole
tacit owl
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then accept me :p

tacit oriole
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Ah sorry! Sound was off.

kind willow
#

I'm going to run an Alysrazor only TW for EU at 8pm GMT later today (Wednesday) after reset. Whisper me w role (tank/heals/dps) if you want a spot.

(We can create multiple groups if demand is great)

tacit oriole
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Thank you all for your assistance!

ashen dawn
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ty to the ppl that figured this out kittylove

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crystal mantle
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That group fell apart too

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Why is finding a timewalking group that doesnt suck so hard

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@tacit orioleStill got room?

tacit owl
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yeah

tacit oriole
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Yup

crystal mantle
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Can you invite Maizou-Proudmoore?

tacit oriole
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Just for Alysrazor though

crystal mantle
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That's fine lol

native rapids
vale geode
tidal geyser
#

When I read that we found the ember I gasped so loudly my husband came over from the next room to make sure I was okay lmao. Thank you to everyone for your hard work β™₯

jovial warren
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Anybody fancy putting together an eu group when servers are back up, between working today and shitting a freight train through the eye of a needle thanks to ibs I've only just managed to check this at 2am lol.

Edit nefarious just seen your post, I'll hit you up after reset

crystal mantle
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So it's 15 of the Green Quality embers from the DF Phoenixes right?

ionic cobalt
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Yes

crystal mantle
#

4 more to go then, it's gonna be a looooong night

daring scroll
#

Hopefully that grind wont be as painful as the un'goro ash. Hooray for everyone that just got the Ember.

vale geode
#

has anyone gotten a second ember on an alt?

warped plume
#

I'll check rn

warped plume
tacit owl
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thank you for checking

vale geode
#

awesome, I was wondering if that quest flag was an account flag or a toon flag

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tks

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well, guess this Cata TW is gonna be the week of a LOT of raid lockouts with only 1 boss down, LOL

jade crypt
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Other than in the Slagmire bit

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If there’s anything better haha

vale geode
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scalecraker keep just fly into the ones flying around and kite them to landings, kill the ones on the rocks and the ones in the cliff cave

jade crypt
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Legend thank you

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Might go clear my vault before I commit to hours of farming those + 10 more inert ash o_o

vale geode
#

the drop rates pars with the inert ash, over an hour and I only got 5.

astral ermine
#

I found the inert ash slightly worse drop chance, but they're both pretty sucky ><

lone copper
#

Has there been a "best spot" found to farm the Smoldering Phoenix Ash

crystal mantle
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Do we think it's safe to delete any extra Ash Feathers we have lol

ionic cobalt
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Yeah I'd say so

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they're easy enough to farm anyway

astral ermine
# lone copper Has there been a "best spot" found to farm the Smoldering Phoenix Ash

I tried a couple places and ended up staying in the Slagmire, there's that one pathway that leads up to the mountain a bit, there's a few phoenix mobs that perch along the cliffs there, and a couple that fly by over head.....staying there they had a decent enough respawn rate, it was preferable to having to move around a lot or chase them down

lone copper
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thank you my friend

flint star
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It's mostly Lava Hatchlings, which can drop Magmotes if you want to double up on the grind.

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I'm playing 'do I get 6 Smoldering Phoenix Ash or the last 400 Magmotes I need for the snail first?'

vale geode
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lol, I'm playing 'don't die' on an alt I'm gearing cause I mistook the Worldbreakers membership for enchanting knowledge.

graceful moon
#

to whoever was wondering about the last phoenix pet, this is 10.1 notes

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astral ermine
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G...Gerald

flint star
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So he is accounted for... Gerald.

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my beautiful son who is going to force me to do even more family battler achievements.

astral ermine
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we will do anything for pets

hollow sphinx
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If they ever add a phoenix mount later on I hope it's just named Larry

ionic cobalt
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fucking GERALD

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that's all of the DF phoenix pets accounted for now

thorn geode
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nah it should be keith

flint star
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I'm quite partial to Suzie.

twilit arrow
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so at this point do we just have no idea what the other phoenix items are for then?

ionic cobalt
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What other phoenix items are there?

vale geode
#

Gerald? Why? Gerald should be a sea lion not a phoenix

bitter narwhal
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how was the tw raid? did they fix it? is it a cake walk?

daring scroll
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Only need to kill Alysrazor and it wasn't too bad

bitter narwhal
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also does everyone group wide get one or only if you have the other items in ur bag?

ionic cobalt
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Everyone gets one

daring scroll
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group wide, don't even need to loot the boss just be in the instance when she dies

bitter narwhal
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oh neat

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so some people are gonna wonder wft they looted lol

daring scroll
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whole raid will get mass spam of getting it on every Alysrazor kill, so this thing really isn't meant to be kept hidden πŸ˜›

vale geode
#

can even be face-planted kissing the ground when she dies to get the ember

daring scroll
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I certainly was. πŸ˜› Couldn't get to the ground fast enough when she started the flame tornado and got sucked out of the sky.

twilit arrow
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the other phoenix items being the smouldering embers and the ash feathers

vale geode
#

yeah, I stuck around and shared the info with a few, just hate for them to sell it and have to wait

daring scroll
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They are step two along with the talisman

rugged raven
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um apparently Lazey on PTR found out Time-Lost Phoenix Hatchling is from an achievement, likely the pet battle one, criteria might be subject to change.

bitter narwhal
rugged raven
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(And got renamed.)

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You need to macro that Ember knowledge baby ❀️

daring scroll
vale geode
rugged raven
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Why would you sell an ember for 39g when you can sell a pet for 600k?

vale geode
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they did not know what they had

hollow sphinx
daring scroll
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And we haven't confirmed it will go for that much yet.

rugged raven
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it's PL no? not rollable?

daring scroll
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At least not for long

twilit arrow
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wait they are? must not have missed that part

daring scroll
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Yeah, Embers for everyone no need to click on corpse

twilit arrow
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must have missed that part*

daring scroll
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In the long run, the Un'Goro grind will probably be the most painful part for people.

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Unless they enable hyperspawning of mobs

bitter narwhal
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  • i meant sell it on the AH, cause that'd be nice, buy up a bunch of embers and sit on em until the weeks out lol
vale geode
bitter narwhal
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but i see now u meant vendor, nvm

daring scroll
#

Even that would help massively, though it would still be a painful grind with any competition.

vale geode
rugged raven
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I hope the quest isn't active only during TW, for example if you really don't feel like farming inert this week

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I would bawl like a baby if ember and timereaver dropped at once

daring scroll
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If that ends up being the case as I mentioned above we get a really fast repeat of Cat TW because of the abbreviated schedule they are running for the next few weeks so it shouldn't be too painful.

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I don't think I have any of the smoldering ashes so I will have to do that grind and might not turn in till after the week myself.

vale geode
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I'm going to get the pet on my main, but I'm also gonna get 2 of my alts geared up and in possession of an ember. I doubt I can get 3 alts geared.

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6 more smoldering to go

jovial warren
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Nobody said there isnt' more to the secret, could also tie in with the 6 weeks of timewalking

twilit arrow
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Is this new, or has this always been what the timewalking quest item was called?

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for cata

jovial warren
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always been the same for cata

twilit arrow
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lol

flint star
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Always been what it was called, and always been the icon it had too.

twilit arrow
#

i guess that would be a pretty decent hint huh

jovial warren
#

Has anyone tried killing alysrazor in non twing raid whilst cata tw is on?

daring scroll
#

yep icon theory was another bit of evidence for it being FL TW

crystal mantle
jovial warren
#

iwouldn't mind the stromcrow tbh

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tied in with one of the other twing would be nice haha

rugged raven
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Timewalking Throne of Thunder when it comes lol

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even without a lol actually

vocal prairie
#

so can I join a timewalking group and get the drop from alys even if I havent done anything else, or do I need to do the other steps first or have any item in my bag?

daring scroll
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Just need to kill Alysrazor nothing else.

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Though joining just for that and leaving would be a bit of a cheap move, unless the group is meant to just kill Alysrazor.

west rock
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Yeah, i'm in US rn on LFG to just kill the bird if you wanna join. Need more ppl than myself. I just don't know how many ppl we need to kill the boss. 5 ppl is enough or do i need a whole raid for that?

lusty furnace
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wait so does this one do nothing? It's not one of the ones needed

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silver haven
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15 of those

lusty furnace
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for what?

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Oh I see now

viral flume
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NAH

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NO WAY IT WAS TIMEWALKINHG

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NAH

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NAH

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NAGH

surreal shore
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It's pretty cringeworthy

native rapids
sturdy glen
spring lance
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perfect team

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vale geode
# twilit arrow i guess that would be a pretty decent hint huh

that was the cinching hint, the icon was introduced in Cata, the Un'goro one was introduced in Vanilla and shares the icon with an item that dropped off those mobs, the sacred one was introduced in WoD. Those are the connections that were found in Wowhead.

zenith fiber
torn harness
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Think it’s just the model that got re-used with different pets

plain willow
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or wait that was Firewing

noble osprey
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Got it πŸ™‚ I was so anxious about doing the TW raid, but i got lucky with a very relaxed group of people and we did a full run even. Happy days πŸ˜„

rugged raven
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anybody started an EU group? lmk please

gilded narwhal
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Done!!!

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worldly drum
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time to go farmin the rest of the ash i guess

noble osprey
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I'm doing that atm as well but i am not getting any so far. It will be a while.

rugged raven
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I got Sacred and Smoldering, but not Inert. See you in August or something

vale geode
#

So anyone going for getting 3 of them this week?

noble osprey
#

I've got more trouble getting smoldering than i did with the Inert one. Guess it's down to rng

rugged raven
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Longer fights for sure πŸ˜„

noble osprey
#

I dont need the necklace buff to get smoldering ash do i?

rugged raven
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you don't no

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I had had Smoldering since I started reading up there so for a few months

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Only recently got the 15th

noble osprey
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Cool thanks! I just keep at it then i guess. I'm only at 6 but i can not remember when or where i found them

viral flume
#

@rugged raven Is there an EU group?

warm cargo
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Or US group?

rugged raven
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I suppose a greater issue would be finding a leader

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no firelands at all in lfg sadge

viral flume
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I suppose

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ill make a group shortly

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but Im wiating on one guy

bleak saffron
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I have eu group running if anyone interested. [Legacy, Firelands Normal]

rugged raven
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TW is heroic by principle I believe but I appreciate it

sturdy glen
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Gratz eurofinders on your ember and pet ❀️ better late than never

thorn geode
rugged raven
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So do you need all items in the bag for this quest to appear? Or just the talisman

exotic maple
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Very cute find. Great job guys!

spiral fern
#

how much the pet sells for ?

white veldt
#

well thanks blizzard for ruining the secret finding community forever

rugged raven
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Group full?

spiral fern
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as long its cageble i can get it

sturdy glen
#

this was far better than the jenafur scenario

white veldt
#

locking shit behind a timewalking raid at all is a dumb direction to take any secret

sturdy glen
#

it went against a standing rule that social media wouldnt be needed to solve secrets. my point is that was a legit intended secret hunt and this clearly was not on that level

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it might be time to stop expecting feasel/celestion level secrets in WoW.

white veldt
#

ofc it will never be on that level because those people stopped doing secrets. so stop referring to them

sturdy glen
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i will as long as people keep interpreting this stuff as some sort of complex major hunt.

vale geode
white veldt
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but locking a secret so we just all go, well see you in 6 months is stupid

sturdy glen
#

secrets and Secretsℒ️

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celestion and feasel made Secretsℒ️

vale geode
#

and what exactly ARE Secretsℒ️

sturdy glen
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those were an entirely different beast then regular videogame secrets

white veldt
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tbh man I think you are long overdue to just leave then. come back when they make a secret.

sturdy glen
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like many people im hopeful for secrety content, and we are still getting small stuff just not like the old stuff

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like this one was pretty cool, yeah it sucked that we couldnt finish til TW

vale geode
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and we just solved secrety content

sturdy glen
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right, just not Secretyℒ️ content

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but it still is nice

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we got a cool pet

viral flume
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EU people theres a group by Shufflous

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in legacy

sturdy glen
#

this and otto are definitely a cooler level of secret that i hope they continue

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and i hope they learn to make sure it works when they 1st patch it in

vale geode
#

and what is Secretyℒ️

you mean what you have said in the past - Secrets designed for this group? cause I'm pretty sure all the legion secrets were already in game before this discord was even created which leaves only Hivemind as then only Secretℒ️

cold frost
#

No way it was actually firelands timewalking facepalm

sturdy glen
#

the earliest legion stuff was made prior to the secret finding community, but they were at least the start of devs going ham with secret design

vale geode
#

no, Jenafur was a make-a-wish secret. and personally it grieves my heart to know of the things in here that have been said about such a warming, thoughtful, memory making wish come true and it's bittersweet ending.

sturdy glen
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they made it without the secret finding community in mind?

rugged raven
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yeah, better make this entire server just collection server, because no matter one's attitude someone's gonna be offended by it? amusing.

white veldt
rugged raven
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The problem was nothing was driving us to the banquet hall in particular, other than there's a lot of food in it, which is people sit on chairs situation

white veldt
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the opera and sheet music was the connection

rugged raven
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Also a duplicate asset was throwing a dent in the theories.

thorn geode
#

it's possible that they expected the expansion to release a month sooner when designing the secret, in which case we'd have gotten cata timewalking immediately

white veldt
worldly drum
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could we like, make the post invisible for another hour or two until i finish farming pls i dont wanna contest πŸ˜†

thorn geode
#

alright well then get mad at holiday achievements, the trading post, TCG items, items that aren't available anymore post-cata, etc.

sturdy glen
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not as bad as ghost moose timegating wise, just kinda stinks because we assumed it was ready to go immediately

white veldt
#

like we have all the parts, but this one thing is locked in a raid 6 months away

noble osprey
rugged raven
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Dunno, maybe I was spitballing, I only know TW dungeons are 100% heroic

sturdy glen
#

it isn't uncommon for them to timegate stuff like this ember. it sucking has more to do with our initial interpretation of zektar.

white veldt
lone copper
rugged raven
thorn geode
#

I'd agree more if it was part of a bigger secret or a better reward, but like... it's a baby phoenix

white veldt
sturdy glen
gilded narwhal
thorn geode
#

what about it being a secret makes it worse that it's timegated?

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why does that fundamentally make it bad to timegate vs other things that are timegated?

sturdy glen
#

it wasnt that level of secret hunt

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it just seemed the most doable out of a majority of the weird stuff at the start of DF

white veldt
#

secret is a secret is a secret

rugged raven
sturdy glen
#

There's a difference between Ba'al level secret and what we just did

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what we did was def a secret

vale geode
sturdy glen
#

it was not a secret like we wanted tho, a grand scale one

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but it was a secret

haughty vector
rugged raven
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Also, anything involving Griftah is enough of a poke even if it isn't complex πŸ˜›

white veldt
#

it doenst matter what scale it was

sturdy glen
#

it does when you are deciding how to solve it

white veldt
#

they do it once and we might as well expect it everytime now

sturdy glen
#

why look at external books and stories with a normal video game level secret

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i mean it's fun dont get me wrong

thorn geode
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I mean... yes, now we know that they might hide secrets in timewalking content. I feel like that's useful information for the future

worldly drum
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The way I see it is, it sucks that it's timegated and we had to wait god knows how many months for us to find out we already knew the answer. The only reason I can't be too mad is because, what if it wasn't on PTR and they left to release it along with this week. Whats the definite chance that we knew there was something to do? Who exactly goes and find Zektar on their normal day lol If it lasted long enough this week may have been over and then bam have to wait 6 months again anyway.

Obviously, I don't know if that would happen, and chances are we'd find it straight away anyway but yeah

rugged raven
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I hope to Sophia spectacles are NOT this kind of secret

lone copper
sturdy glen
vale geode
rugged raven
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oh Jesus I am just as blind as Tarjin, forgive my mishap KEKW

white veldt
sturdy glen
rugged raven
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it's just any time a secret is smaller than expected some people make fun of the expectations once they're acknowledged. I am not saying about anyone here by the way

lone copper
white veldt
sturdy glen
thorn geode
#

if you consider it wasted time to explore every avenue possible while waiting for the event that we expected to drop it then like... secrets are literally a complete waste of time in that worldview

ionic cobalt
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Timewalking has been like the defacto answer to β€œwhere is the glittering ember” since like day one. I’ve shown my friends who haven’t played WoW in years the item description and they immediately answered timewalking

sturdy glen
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flying around the world and trying to connect stuff is fun regardless of whether or not u were hinted at doing it

vale geode
white veldt
rugged raven
sturdy glen
#

serpent took longer to figure out and was even less of a secret hunt than this was.

i think the community will be fine.

thorn geode
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my man has to do one timewalking raid and says secrets are dead

vale geode
thorn geode
#

the good news is there's still mysterious stuff to look into

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ancient menders, the stones, and hek all need looking into

white veldt
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they are all locked in twing shit

ionic cobalt
#

Nah stones are pretty much solved with 10.1

rugged raven
#

People still enthusiastic about the content love to explore it so much they may resort to accidental RP-ing if so inclined.

And. There's. Nothing. Wrong. With. That.

Nor there's anything wrong with the devs not spending resources in a high-pressure environment.

The only meh things are actual fuckups like the pearl.

thorn geode
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wait are they? I didn't keep up with them

sturdy glen
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stones are for an achievement

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lore stuff

thorn geode
#

ah okay

ionic cobalt
#

Basically just worldbuilding flavor now

visual walrus
#

I got a pet, but I can't figure out how to put it in a cell for combat pets? the script that was written here , it only calls and releases the pet

lone copper
#

There's a script on the Wowhead article that puts it on your cursor and you can put it on a team, it might be in the pins too

ionic cobalt
#

Is anyone here use Rematch? Can you see the phoenix with that?

lone copper
#

I couldn't see it with Rematch, it's missing from the journal itself

ionic cobalt
#

Yeesh

sturdy glen
#

If you weren't here for Slime Serpent consider this your callousing course. Gotta be in it for the love of the hunt not the size of the reward or the grandness of the trail.

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look because it's fun

thorn geode
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huge agree

sturdy glen
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just dont get mad when people see differently, it isn't Team Theory A VS Team Theory B

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it isnt a contest

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When you post "hey i found this rock could it be related" and I say "probably not" I did not just strike your kid in the street. I just disagreed. That is kinda part of this.

white veldt
sturdy glen
#

their*

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and im just 1 person i just talk a lot. if u disagree i dont mind i wont accuse you of trolling or being a blizzard plant

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no matter how many times people get personal when i disagree with their idea i still attack only the theory

vale geode
#

Just please in the future at least contribute your theories and research instead of ONLY challenging others.

sturdy glen
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mine was "it's from TW FL"

white veldt
sturdy glen
#

if it ended up not being TW FL straight up i woulda been stumped

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bamboozled

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but it was in fact TW FL, much to our chagrin

white veldt
#

then you should have just peaced out till TW

vale geode
#

Nah. You were on the fence of several possibilities, as I was. I just decided to explore other possibilities instead of only criticizing.

white veldt
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instead of pissing on everyone else the whole time

sturdy glen
#

i dont tell people to leave or stop posting because that would be mean

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i just tell people when their theory has holes

white veldt
#

well you dont contribute you just piss on everyone elses flames

thorn geode
#

I so badly wanted it to not be from timewalking because the absolute chaos in here would have been sooooooo glorious

sturdy glen
vale geode
sturdy glen
#

If you dont want to see healthy skepticism as contributing to the discord that is on you. It might not be the most fun contribution but it is part of the process when it comes to figuring out what the actual intended clues are

rugged raven
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It will be a sad day if any old-secret-approach to the content dies out because it's no longer plausible. sadge I am glad it prevails despite all odds, just don't lose sleep over this

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Also slime serpent was not innovative, there was a hunter training? that required a similar thing

white veldt
rugged raven
#

so still boo that one πŸ˜‚

sturdy glen
scarlet tapir
#

man there are no firelands groups

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lol

rugged raven
#

there was one in EU and it filled to full so quickly

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(filled to full my brain is this tilted)

plain willow
rugged raven
#

lol still requires phone link to make a description in legacy

plain willow
#

btw about Tarjin the Blind, I cant remember us discussing about it.. only those others dajars

sturdy glen
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pretty sure Epic just happened to see the quest marker while flying around looking for where to take the talisman

vale geode
sturdy glen
#

i point holes out, they were already there

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that's productive when people dont address the holes themselves

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If someone disagrees with you, find something that proves you right and show it

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It'll take more than "This just sounds like a secrety way to do things"

scarlet tapir
#

what size raids are the tw

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30?

rugged raven
#

flex

worldly drum
#

two others farming for the stupid ash in un goro now YEP

sturdy glen
worldly drum
#

Thankfullu I already farmed 8 of them before, just couldnt be bothered 😭

white veldt
sturdy glen
#

glad this is just a pet and i dont have to farm any of it KEKW

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if it was purple warlock fire like i wanted it to be i woulda been pissed

plain willow
#

only have smoldering grind left

worldly drum
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I'm also on a pretty small layer so I've never had toi have compeition with much before

plain willow
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did rest 3-4 months ago xD

worldly drum
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i shouldve just finished it off before christmas like i was doing YEP

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my incompetence bites me in the ass again

white veldt
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i just need some of the smoldering, only thing I didnt stack up high enough

vale geode
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I lack 6 smoldering and the griftah feathers

white veldt
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dont even talk about those feathers XD i have 650

sturdy glen
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RIP to whoever farmed 2k

vale geode
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The slagmire told us how many we'd need, why did you keep farming them

white veldt
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my brain is just "oh a piece of candy oh a piece of candy" when I have that buff on lol

sturdy glen
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just in case kappa

warped plume
# sturdy glen pretty sure Epic just happened to see the quest marker while flying around looki...

correct. I was just flying around to the npcs I knew of. before going to Tarjin the Blind, i went to GIGI I WYNN and started facing the directions that she was looking. one direction was directly to where you get the spyragosa quest behind the obsidian citadel. she never actually faced Tarjin the Blind's direction. I just happened to go there since it was near that area (in a different direction) and then saw the quest marker above Tarjin and checked it out.

white veldt
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mmm gotta love trying to do this raid. 4 fall apart groups so far lol

spare copper
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yeah i had one where the damn tank wanted to go fly with Aly... Dude send DPS up!

white veldt
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exactly why 3 just died

rugged raven
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disconnected after joining the group :/

viral flume
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Bruh, firelands tw is so easy

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can just ignore all mechanics

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All our pulls were messed up, still killed

noble osprey
viral flume
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yeh TW is normal

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Raggy doesnt walk 😦

spare copper
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ran Heroic just to see if it would drop this week killed rag cuz why not got the mount! woohoo

surreal shore
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Running a [EU] Firelands Alysrazor only group in lfg "Timewalking Alsrazor only"

rugged raven
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got it πŸ˜„

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first try even

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there's sure a lot to avoid and everything just lumps into one big pile of yellow πŸ˜… we have it good over these few expansions πŸ˜„

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it feels so unreal handling it

scarlet tapir
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I sit here waiting

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assuming we don't have any respawn timers yet

foggy pulsar
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why is there a ? behind SOLVED... is there more monkaS

sturdy glen
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part 2!

rugged raven
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lol I remember you didn't know the Tarjin part and when I said part 2 you were like 'aha funny' πŸ˜„

sturdy glen
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oh i saw that part i just forgot it tied in the smouldering ash and the amulet feathers\

rugged raven
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Okie πŸ™‚

sturdy glen
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but hey it would be neat to raise this thing into a mount

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i guess if u can fight with it that might already not be a great sign? was the znoth mount pet one u could fight with?

rugged raven
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yes and yes (for the falcosaurs)

sick sparrow
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the falcosaur pets have to be raised to 25 to even start their mount quests

rugged raven
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You also needed to fight with them for a few steps

sturdy glen
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sweet, i was thinking uuna

daring scroll
rugged raven
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I guess I can safely vendor ash feather amulet now I've got the feathers?

ionic cobalt
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That’s my understanding too

rugged raven
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I don't want to, but the vaults... they are cruel!

ionic cobalt
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Not confirmed by any means but that’s what the vibes feel like

rugged raven
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oops I linebombed you

ionic cobalt
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Also I ditched my amulet like as soon as I logged in last night

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Felt so good to take it off my action bars too

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And deleted the grey Phoenix ashes… and the phoenix stones….

rugged raven
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hey that's still a nice vendor price

civic comet
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liberationnn

daring scroll
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I'm looking forward to regaining the bag space more then the pet... πŸ˜›

ionic cobalt
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Thank god they hotfixed it to stack

daring scroll
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Oh god yes

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I would have been unable to do this secret if they hadn't

rugged raven
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that reminds me I vendored the music items from Bastion the last vault run… but I'll get them many times over before I get the stupid pet anyway

vale geode
scarlet tapir
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giga bis spot

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double spawn

kindred axle
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I'm surprised no one is complaining about the un'goro drop rate

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It's an actual nightmare

sturdy glen
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it happened months ago believe me

daring scroll
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They won't complain about it here...we got our complaining over with at the start πŸ˜›

kindred axle
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can imagine

daring scroll
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Forgot who it was that lost/sold their entire stack to test something and was holding off on farming them again till they knew what the reward was...

scarlet tapir
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listed a phoenix ash farm group if wm off horde

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if anyone is interested

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US

urban sparrow
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Who in the world was the person to timelock this secret pet to a Timewalking raid

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1-2 weeks per year ...

daring scroll
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Easier then some of the holiday stuff.

urban sparrow
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Well, its not a holiday stuff

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Its a random pet hidden on a timegated content

ionic cobalt
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It’s no different than the timewalking pets or mounts you can buy with badges though?

urban sparrow
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What i mean is that there was no need to hide it through a timewalking event

ionic cobalt
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Boost engagement

plain willow
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I did it twice just in case for another char πŸ˜„

chrome pendant
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solo or group

rugged raven
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You grandpa by now

plain willow
chrome pendant
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alr

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i was more worried about getting the tw kill, but seems like the un goro farm will take a while

rugged raven
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just looked into encounter journal, tw is there, the ember is not πŸ˜›

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I think they should add it at this point, alongside the pet journal entry Β―_(ツ)_/Β―

chrome pendant
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i think the ember should have been from normal raid

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considering how you have to wait for a few months till cata tw is back up

daring scroll
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They made the hint fairly clear, and as an added bonus, they tweaked the TW schedule so that we can confirm it drops from TW and get to have Cat TW again fairly quickly for anyone not ready to grab it the first time.

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Next Cat TW is I think it was May 23

sturdy glen
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plus think about how often the kosumoth WQ w/ the mount comes up a year

daring scroll
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And they aren't a set cycle right?

sturdy glen
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not that i know of

daring scroll
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yeah, so TW is certainly a step in the right direction over the older random chance ones they have had previously.

sturdy glen
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or at the very least this doesnt break precedent as much as it seems

daring scroll
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be it 6 months or a year, if it is a known time you can put on the calendar and plan ahead for it is vastly better then a random chance event you need to take the time to check for on the chance it shows up.

urban sparrow
daring scroll
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Wasn't there an article awhile back how one of them didn't show up for an extended length of time?

rugged raven
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At this point they should just tighten the entire schedule especially when BfA jumps in.

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Maybe even make doubles but not sure in what manner.

urban sparrow
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Thats ... very bad luck

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But yes it might happen

rugged raven
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Pretty sure it's not 50/50

daring scroll
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This shortened schedule we are getting for the next month or two might be a test ruin of a shorter cycle.

rugged raven
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And if it is, people barely know because you can't see the mount once obtained

sturdy glen
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i thought it was 50/50 whether or not its the pet or mount, but any WQ at all showing up is more rare

urban sparrow
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Well, i had pet first week, next one was mount, next mount and the other pet

rugged raven
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The WQ lasts 2 weeks

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not one

urban sparrow
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Then i know why i had mount 2 weeks straight

urban sparrow
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One per week

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Its pretty timegated and there are going to be plenty more in the future. Imagine SL TW in the next expansion

rugged raven
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As a person still missing Timereaver, please no πŸ˜‚

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JK

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but I am pretty sure if I don't get it I will be sick of TW after all the cycle

scarlet tapir
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noone wants to join my phoenix farming group 😦

foggy pulsar
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can you get the ember with more thn 1 alt? sorry i missed a lot of messages

urban sparrow
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It should

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I have to test it

warped plume
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the glittering ember? yes

foggy pulsar
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thanks

wise skiff
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So how populated is Fireplume ridge rn?

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Is it insta-spawns?

daring scroll
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Don't think they have hyperspawn mechanics there.

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If they did the grind wouldn't be so painful...

wise skiff
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Oh so just plan for firelands runs

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Yeah i got a head start on it. Will have to work on it over the course of the week. Glad it doesn't have prereqs cause I started it on an alt due to bag space

daring scroll
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just remember everything is soulbound and will ultimately need to be farmed on teh same char.

muted elk
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Phoenix Ash Talisman [SOLVED]

daring scroll
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Aww, I seem to remember one of the staff intentionally wanting to keep the '?' in there. πŸ˜›

tired bear
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Nice, I'm not subbed anymore but was always wondering if it would drop in timewalking as many others had suggested. Kind of stupid but it is what it is. The other parts were more fun!

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I farmed all the other ash but resubbing just for this, fuck me - no :p

viral flume
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Fishguinho

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If I see you one more time

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@buoyant dust ggs

muted elk
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oh

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well

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@hybrid magnet sorry πŸ™ƒ

vale geode
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We can get 3 of the pet but won't know if that has to be done on different toons since we don't know if Taijins quest flag is repeatable. I think that's why the ? mark was left in.

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@warped plume you said we could buy the talisman again, was it like the monocles and you pay gold for the subsequent ones or is it farm the currency all over again?

warped plume
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the same currency

vale geode
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so theoretically Taijin's quest may only be up when the TW is up or it's a daily/weekly reset on it.

daring scroll
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Well, I haven't turned in the Ember for the Talisman yet and just checked Tarjin. No quest to turn in talisman and such for the pet so I think it is keyed to the Talisman not the TW event...

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And just farmed up 20 ash feathers and confirmed having a full stack of one of the items doesn't have Tarjin give the quest...

scarlet tapir
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any groups US horde farming the inerts?

daring scroll
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Okay, just turned in the ember for the talisman then checked Tarjin again and he offered the quest even without the smoldering ash, so looks like it is the talisman it keys on, if I don't farm up the smoldering ash in time I will be able to check if the quest is still offered after TW ends.

scarlet tapir
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yea ima need them to buff the spawns of these at minimum

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lol

worldly drum
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finally got it

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thank god

trim dune
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by far one of the worst farms

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trim dune
scarlet tapir
viral flume
trim dune
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πŸ˜„

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idk who you are but IT WAS ME

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paladin? or hunter/druid

viral flume
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hunter/druid

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I was the hunter

trim dune
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you got no reason to complain then

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i went naked, you kill me i get the elementals

viral flume
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Haha

scarlet tapir
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anyone farming in wm on? how bad is it

viral flume
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I thought you were hella crazy to keep trying to farm with us being there

trim dune
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i mean i was getting the same if not more kills on the mobs than you guys

trim dune
scarlet tapir
ionic cobalt
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You guys had like six months to farm these

foggy pulsar
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6 months ago the drop chance was still ass

trim dune
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i mean i got 6 months to farm every white item in the game

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doesnt mean im going to do it

worldly drum
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anyone tried to sell it yet?

thorn geode
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this is why the moment I got the ember yesterday I said "oh fuck" and went and farmed my ash

trim dune
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you got 6 months to farm these to 500 for secret

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did you get those 500?

thorn geode
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still need to get the green ash because that farm is honestly worse than ungoro and nobody can change my mind

worldly drum
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(im wondering if i should sell it lol)

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^^^

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it is

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ungoro is annoying but i felt like i was getting more than the green one

thorn geode
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same, and the mobs all get one shot and you don't have to kill them twice

worldly drum
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exactly

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only thing is i wish the ungoro respawned a tiny bit faster, or make it dropped from the living blazes too :(

scarlet tapir
hybrid magnet
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Whyyyyy

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It's not over damnit!!!

wheat ether
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Curious if anyone tried firelands (not timewalking) in a group of 10+

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Probably wouldn't do anything but still curious.

torn harness
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Someone already tested it by themselves, not with a group of 10

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No drop there

vale geode
vale geode
flint star
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Pretty sure the game can just determine if you have an item in your bag without using a quest flag.

warped plume
trim dune
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farming dust in wm on

urban sparrow
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I know that the secret is solved, but why there is an ID difference between feathers? I mean, an specific ID in Obsidian Citadel then every other is not the same

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It has no sense, why would they make 3 different ids for feathers when you require a single random feather for the pet?

vale geode
urban sparrow
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I hope they actually bring the Ember Phoenix mount version and just dont forget about it.

tulip maple
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there's still hope, just gotta play with the lil guy and see.
at the moment though i feel like there's no middle ground... either ridiculously predictable secrets or ones no rational person can easily figure out. it would be nice if they could figure out how to do 'hey this starts a secret' well

gleaming ridge
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I only farmed 12 of the smoldering ash so I need to get 3 more... but man it's slow lol

vale geode
tulip maple
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If this is the big secret of dragonflight I’m unsubscribing πŸ˜‚

daring scroll
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Don't think Dragonflight has a big secret

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At least not yet?

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This was a side thing for fun really, like a few of the other small things they have had

vale geode
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we will see how fast they fix the issue with it not showing up in the journal after learning

daring scroll
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in before the memes of it not showing because "This isn't my final form" πŸ˜›

vale geode
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well, there is the red/orange version of this

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haughty vector
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ye he loves it

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vale geode
haughty vector
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iirc he was a pre order only reward so i doubt he'll have any interactions kekhands

vale geode
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comes with the base edition,

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AiWL , hee hee

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haughty vector
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same difference i dont believe they'd ever involve a paid for pet/bonus pet

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but also it wasnt a base edition it was prepurchase

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it was just with any edition if you did prepurchase it

vale geode
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then he better not show up in the Trading post

boreal robin
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AYYY WE DID IT, WE FIGURED IT OUT AND ALL I DID WAS MAKE A HITLER MEME esfandLUL

daring scroll
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You mean the biggest contribution to this secret channel? πŸ˜›

boreal robin
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actually truuuu

honest pagoda
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ayyy it actually was TW'ing gated. where are all the "tHeY'D nEvEr Do ThAt" peeps at lol

graceful moon
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It mightve actually been doable on ptr but idk if anyone did try to make a group on cata tw week during then, if we had the theory then

daring scroll
warped plume
graceful moon
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Ahh

warped plume
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they weren't even able to clear the first trash mob in the FL TW instance. the mage tower scaling was around 3x harder than the original SL release tuning.

cold fable
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I still have high hopes that in the future something will be done with the quest flag you get when getting the pet from Tarjin.

We had a similar thing with the Nazjatar Blood Serpent, when 8.3 dropped you could complete a PvP quest of turning yourself into a Void Boss if you had previously killed it and used the Aether of the Abyss.

tulip maple
gilded narwhal
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That is why I persuaded to get all the night before last night. For the first me and another druid had grouped with a hunter with elemental tracking and we just followed him around looting πŸ˜… I hate grinding and competing with people for those would have made me definately give up.

scarlet tapir
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i need them to buff these inert drops

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or make em respawn faster

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idk man

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especially for them being low lvl single tag mobs

scarlet tapir
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anyone got the dead realm hookup? pepelaff

trim dune
trim dune
scarlet tapir
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woaaaaaaaah we're halfway there

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scarlet tapir
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went afk for 15 break and everyone was gone 😦

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guess we go agane later

vale geode
thorn geode
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has anyone tested if there's a way to party sync with a chromie-timer to get an empty shard?

scarlet tapir
warped plume
scarlet tapir
thorn geode
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I already have mine, sorry blob_sweats

trim dune
# warped plume It definitely wasn't. it's the reason why the mage tower wasn't active during th...

Didn't hear from it afterward only that it was disabled but these were the type of things I saw before it was closed https://youtu.be/bRGLLWEv2PQ

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β–Ά Play video
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Granted it was alpha and it probably became like you said too difficult but I haven't the info so I apologize

warped plume
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okay so

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that vid is when 1 item was broken giving 5k stats

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lol

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you can tell since he has 300k hp in the mage tower lol

daring scroll
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Heh, something I only just realized today...I had so many browser tabs I could finally close now that this has been solved. πŸ˜›

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And going over them... @ionic cobalt Minor correction for your gdoc on this, they have the shortened TW rotation for the next two months so the next Cat TW should be much sooner then the August 1st you have listed, think it was May 23?

graceful moon
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Remember to stock up on badges so you can get hierloom upgrades easy

daring scroll
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As opposed to spending a fortune in gold like I have...and I still don't have all the current ones. πŸ˜›

graceful moon
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Yea, I have a full set for each armor type bought in hold, the 60-70 ones I will buy with badges. Only need like 40k badges lol

scarlet tapir
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idk if they buffed the droprate or if im on a hot streak

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3 ashes in 20 minutes

daring scroll
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Go Go Hot streak!

scarlet tapir
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its the final countdown

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ionic cobalt
warped plume
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Phoenix Wishwing is now appearing in the pet journal

daring scroll
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hooray!

scarlet tapir
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nice

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just in time for me to learn it

rugged raven
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Now the pet is in the journal the source quest is explicitly mentioned. XD

daring scroll
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I wonder if it was intentionally left out of the journal just to keep the source quest hidden?

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Looking back I think if they had set it up for the Tarjin quest to show the moment you had enough of any of the three required items, it would have revealed the talisman, which would have potentially pointed us towards Zektar, and from there we get the three additional items to track down.

rugged raven
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Wouldn't people have found it way quicker with the ash feathers?

daring scroll
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yep, that probably would have been the first item

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feathers cause Tarjin to show quest, then we have a talisman to find and know to start farming Smoldering Ash, then we hopefully find Zektar from the Talisman text and see the three items he needs, and from there it goes like it did for us tracking them down.

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Would still have had the "is it TW" arguments, but it still would have felt a lot less like we were fumbling around blind.

rugged raven
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Did the feathers do that tho?

daring scroll
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nope

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Couldn't see the Tarjin quest until I had the talisman

cold fable
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the talisman is required to see tarjin's quest

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at least the secret worked correctly, unlike otto at launch, the problem was that we had to wait for TW

rugged raven
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Yeah

daring scroll
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Just irritating as we didn't have a hint pointing us to Tarjin, we got really lucky with him being found so fast.

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If the quest showed at 20 Ash Feathers, we would have had hints pointing us to the rest.

cold fable
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well, Phoenixes and the Djarin go hand in hand

daring scroll
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And as the feathers were meant to be farmed in that rough area, we would have had better odds of finding Tarjin after farming 20 too.

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pacing would have been better as well, it would have shown us every required item before we collected the Ember, letting us know what to farm as we waited to see if TW was the answer.

cold fable
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but I don't believe it would've changed anything to have the quest pop-up before, maybe people will not sell the smoldering ash because they thought it was worthless

daring scroll
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We would have known required quantities though./

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Seeing "oh we only need 20 ash feather" would have saved some people some trouble at least πŸ˜›

rugged raven
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I mean… there were 20 proper locations. πŸ˜›

sturdy glen
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Maybe the mount will need 5k feathers kappa

daring scroll
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ooh, reused items for additional farms...that could be evil...

rugged raven
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The quest giver is reused πŸ˜›

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So is the amulet

daring scroll
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Amulet? How?

cold fable
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getting the pet from tarjin flags a quest to track it, so maybe in the future Tarjin or we might remember the tale to lead us to another phoenix thing

rugged raven
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petty theft mammoth I believe

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ok no I don't know anymore

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Hmmm oribos exchange still doesn't know of the phoenix so I guess it's still an api nightmare. We got it at xu-fu but under the old name 😬

daring scroll
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eh, when I was just closing down my back log of tabs I was refreshing them to check and they didn't have the quest listed or the use case for the talisman yet on Wowhead outside of the comments, give em time to confirm and update πŸ˜›

rugged raven
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I kinda wanna sell it asap to grab it during a second tw but on the other hand, it's a phoenix, and it was an adventure (even if not very productive)