general

[amber spindle]

been nearly 3 more years... i kinda doubt it ever gonna happen™

[muted needle]

now thats just mean

I like it

[amber spindle]

redout

[jagged quarry]

redoubt

[jagged quarry]

gort

[muted needle]

gort

[thorn pewter]

gort

[amber spindle]

if someone permanently stains their skin blurple color, will they get the job :)

and gets a big discord tattoo

[cunning void]

You need to get banned from discord first, then you can join. Just ask appel

[jagged quarry]

excuse you, that's "add to docs" to you

[amber spindle]

hr add to docs, how is your docing going

[jagged quarry]

add to docs

[amber spindle]

nice

[cold jasper]

What are we adding and when

[amber spindle]

docs to docs

[barren grove]

jesus christ im being taught regex

[elfin ore]

My condolences

[split linden]

https://jimbly.github.io/regex-crossword/

have fun

[barren grove]

nahhhh

[muted needle]

aw hell nah

[long hawk]

Greetings, my fellow homosapiens, for those that identify as one

[zinc hedge]

What an odd thing to say

[normal kiln]

Im a door.

Ahhhh wait... the lore is not there anymore ...

[long hawk]

I’m not here to judge

[normal kiln]

search is broken

[jagged quarry]

it just takes a sec to get indexed

[normal kiln]

since when

back from not long ago it was instant

[jagged quarry]

you probably just didn't notice

[normal kiln]

Maybe

ill trust you on that

[jagged quarry]

i dunno how it matters lol

it's there now

who goes searching for a message they literally just sent

[normal kiln]

i was searching for a lore

General got deleted , thought i said it somewhere else

[barren grove]

[timid lagoon]

dont you love

when you have a shower thought for a bot

and you cant do it because its illegal

and is also the same reason half the games you play are no longer playable

[zinc hedge]

...what

[jagged quarry]

my sentiments exactly

[timid lagoon]

lootboxes are now illegal for me

so no more egg opening games.. yay

[zinc hedge]

oh good

[timid lagoon]

no not good

[zinc hedge]

because what the world needs is more degenerate gambling

[timid lagoon]

im pretty sure im now softlocked in a game i was playing because of that

[normal kiln]

that IS good

[timid lagoon]

i dont think so

all games i usually play are gonna be illegal

[zinc hedge]

might be time to play a good game

[timid lagoon]

if it wasnt for all the macro it would be a good game

but i guess no more

i cant think of any game

besides boring incremental games

[zinc hedge]

wut

[timid lagoon]

what

[normal kiln]

dont bother lol

[timid lagoon]

would that make portions of minecraft illegal too per se?

like fishing

[zinc hedge]

minecraft has lootboxes?

[timid lagoon]

it thecnically is gambling

[vestal perch]

Because the result is random??

[normal kiln]

What is illegal is gambling with real money tho

[zinc hedge]

all rng is not gambling

[timid lagoon]

im seeing stuff that dont use real money getting blocked too

[barren grove]

[vestal perch]

Is it stuff that uses some special in-game currency like "gems" but you get gems by buying them with real monies?

[vestal perch]

Hello darling~

How have you been?

[barren grove]

IM GOOD HOW ARE YOU?

caps sorry

[timid lagoon]

that makes more sense..

[vestal perch]

I LIKE CAPS IT MAKES YOU SOUND EXCITED ABOUT DOING WELL AND YOU DESERVE TO BE EXCITED ABOUT DOING WELL~

[timid lagoon]

but whats the difficulty in making so said gems unbuyable

[barren grove]

OKAY MAYBE IT WAS INTENTIONAL

[normal kiln]

WHY ARE YOU SCREAMING AT THIS TIME OF THE DAYYYYY

[vestal perch]

Then... how would you get the gems????

[timid lagoon]

that would solve the problem right?

[cold jasper]

Because then the money stop

[timid lagoon]

uhhh running around the map

daily streak

[vestal perch]

I HAVE SEVERE ADHD EVERY HOUR IS THE SCREAMING HOUR WHEN THE ADDERAL WEARS OFF

[cold jasper]

A) Minecraft servers aren't free to host, and
B) People are greedy

[normal kiln]

OK THAT MAKES SENSE HAVE A WONDERFULL DAY !!

[vestal perch]

THANK YOU YOU TOO IT IS LOVELY TO SEE YOU AGAIN~

[barren grove]

i agree

makes perfect sense

[normal kiln]

Minecraft servers aren't free to host
...ah?

[barren grove]

i have a spare computer i host servers on

[cold jasper]

Ah.

[vestal perch]

They are if you buy them with boosts your community has given you

[cold jasper]

[normal kiln]

they are if you host it on your school internet and electricity

[barren grove]

heaven

[cold jasper]

Jank level of server colocation

[normal kiln]

i host servers for my husband friends so they dont have to pay

[cold jasper]

I would if I had enough friends that played it

[normal kiln]

they like me my computers

[frozen quiver]

apple made me jump through 20 hoops just for some bs

Like let me give you my money 😭😭

[amber spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-our-now-gif-21036569

our money you mean

[tight sierra]

AUDIO JUNGLE!!!!

Archive it before it gets nuked

[long girder]

literally that's what i thought of too

[tight sierra]

dude. we got like 5 years of history. that's crazy

[long girder]

🥹

[barren grove]

gm

[earnest flume]

hi jo

i again realized it exists

[frozen quiver]

I just wanna buy a macbook 😭

[pulsar quarry]

i use a mac

macos is nice but dont get it if you care abt gaming at all

[frozen quiver]

i use a laptop for work

[pulsar quarry]

or if your planning on doing anything gpu intensive

[frozen quiver]

most i would ever play is like, minecraft

[pulsar quarry]

yeah it can do that

look for apple silicon chips

intel macs are garbage

[steady shell]

last time i used discord.js was in v13, and i feel like the api has gotten a lot more complicated

[split linden]

if you used v13 you made the switch to managers already

so idk what you mean about the api becoming more complicated

maybe commands, i suppose, since we do no longer recommend you parse everything from message content
discord has since come up with more app-dedicated ways of doing things

[long girder]

what if we combine managers with collections

and we call it data stores

[steady shell]

there's much more options in the discord dev portal and i don't remember using intents

[south hawk]

[steady shell]

(gatewayintentbits enum i mean)

[copper jacinth]

But weren't intents still a thing in v13? Or am I mistaken

[steady shell]

they probably were

[split linden]

might've been 14

[steady shell]

I do really like the new api though

i mean the discord.js interface

i don't know why people hate on enums but it's much nicer

[split linden]

typo resistant

[steady shell]

Why do people hate on enums though? I'm not a TS expert so I might be missing something

The only thing that bothers me is that you can't compile it directly to js using node's type stripper

[jagged quarry]

https://www.totaltypescript.com/why-i-dont-like-typescript-enums

[steady shell]

Seems trivial

[neat patrol]

nuh uh

v12 was api v7 (so v6) which has them optional. v13 was supposed to be v8 but v9 came out in the meantime so that's what it's on

and v14 is on v10

[copper jacinth]

v11 when?

[neat patrol]

in 2023 i believe

[copper jacinth]

Then we can finally have v15

[neat patrol]

and v9 should be deprecated soon too, like a year or 2 ago

[copper jacinth]

#general message

[long girder]

v6 was supposed to be discontinued two years ago

doesn't mean anything though

[neat patrol]

nice easter egg in the api versions

[jagged quarry]

enums are personally very annoying

[long girder]

yeah 0 works

[maiden raft]

No you can’t. Nuance is a thing of the past.

[long girder]

thanks siris i knew you would understand me

[lilac cloak]

i love how typescript lets me statically type literal values

i always just use flags: "Ephemeral" for example, instead of the more verbose enum MessageFlags.Ephemeral

[neat patrol]

the thing is that enums abstract the value away

[jagged quarry]

cursed

[lilac cloak]

why does it need to be abstracted tho?

[neat patrol]

if discord changes the flag id for that, you will have to do exactly nothing in your code besidse updating discord.js

that's the entire point here

isntead of a 64 you have Ephemeral

[lilac cloak]

i guess

[neat patrol]

also the channel types

[jagged quarry]

the point is that the value has semantic meaning when you're reading the code. discord will never change this lol

[neat patrol]

rn they're numbers, but we had them as text

well, the provided example was tied to discord

so i had to go off of that

but then also discord introduces 50278

[jagged quarry]

not a change to an enum value

[neat patrol]

i guess

[jagged quarry]

enums should never be about changing the values that they represent

[maiden raft]

I don’t guess I know

[lilac cloak]

i mean if it needs to be abstracted away then an object works perfectly fine, but for things i dont reasonably expect to change like flags, i def prefer just a string literal

[neat patrol]

tbf discord.js does the conversion for you

[lilac cloak]

yea

i mean obv for an api i expect enum-like values to be handled as ints, saves space over strings

[neat patrol]

in places where it takes an enum we can take and resolve a string, but partially because we didn't use enums before

[lilac cloak]

but like especially for my own functions where i know my own intentions and those intentions dont typically include surprising myself with unexpected enum changes, i just use string literals and unions and stuff

[neat patrol]

i'd still use an enum there as a mean to not have to do a find and replace later on

[lilac cloak]

fair

[neat patrol]

in which case, sure, objects works too, but is imo clunkier to handle

[lilac cloak]

i just have my preference and i prefer making the code a little shorter and less imports

[neat patrol]

just import *

can't have less imports than that

[lilac cloak]

no thanks im good

[neat patrol]

in my case it makes no difference really because i most of the time declare the enum in the same place the usage of it originates in, and it tends to be that i already import the using thing elsewhere, so already have the import for that file and can just add the enum too if i need it

[lilac cloak]

anyways oh boy i cant wait to use string literals as enum-like values stored in my database where storage becomes a lil less negligible

[deft vector]

Is the djs help channel a good place to ask preference or general advice questions or should I ask here

[muted needle]

the djs help channel is for djs related questions and issues, nothing else

[deft vector]

Alright so I’m working with some config stuff and I’m just wondering in general how I should format my embeds/components when I may need a lot of configs for a specific option (I want to have options for different ticket categories and role selections for ticket visibility per category). For now I have a modal with a select menu for category and a multiselect menu for roles in that category. I’m wondering if there’s a better way to do something like this or if there are any good examples I can look at?

[lilac cloak]

theres lots of ways to handle configs

you want a list of items (ticket categories), where each item can have its own config?

[deft vector]

Yeah. I know there’s objectively bad ways to handle this but naturally everything should be as easy to use as possible

[lilac cloak]

your mileage may vary but i have this

[deft vector]

That’s almost exactly what I have but yours is a lot cleaner

[lilac cloak]

but i also have this in a different menu, motivated by the need to display more info (possibly an image but i havent added that yet) without it getting too cluttered

[muted needle]

configs are overrated, just assume what the user wants and enforce it

[deft vector]

I don’t have a different menu per level roles but I kinda just have an option to add them and a select menu for role selections and level for it. This is a lot better having sub menus with a back to settings option I will look into this

[lilac cloak]

so my two main strategies are either to have a list of sections with buttons to edit each item, or give each item its own page with space for lots of info and then a select menu or buttons to move between items

for the first you get more info density but things can get cluttered fast if you have too much info per item, and you are more limited by components

[deft vector]

Is that bot public? I’d love to look more into it

[lilac cloak]

my profile has a link to my very basic website with a link to add the bot (im not sending the link directly out of fear respect for big brother the mods)

and use the /settings command to access this menu

[jagged quarry]

ads

[lilac cloak]

mods please

dont kill me

its for educational purposes i swear

[deft vector]

Thank you :)

[lilac cloak]

anyways the exact formatting you use may vary, but your main motivation should be the tradeoff between how clean something is visually vs how quick it is for the user to find the info they want or make edits

[lilac cloak]

for my bot, each rank is a standalone thing and may have a lot of connected info, including level requirement, roles granted, vanity details like name and description and an image (wip), there are actions like creating a role, and i may add a button to this menu to view rank-related analytics
ranks have a lot going on, so i believe its best to give them a submenu where each rank has its own space to breathe

if this were a web dashboard with no component or height limits i would def put them all on one page, but within discord's component limits, plus the fact that its in a chat window were too much height gets annoying, i find it makes the most sense to isolate them like this

[deft vector]

If you were restricted to discords component limits how would you handle something like entirely customizing embeds and responses for virtually everything (outside of the configs themselves of course)

[lilac cloak]

to contrast, custom xp rules are less significant
they do have a (currently) similar amount of properties as a rank, but i consider those properties to be relatively simpler, and no individual xp rule has enough data or enough functional significance to necessitate a separate submenu that takes a bit of time for the user to navigate to

[lilac cloak]

some people have made really good embed and even components v2 generator commands that you can look at for examples
for these things, i dont think youll ever get a ui nearly as clean as a web ui, but theres ways

i dont have an example of an embed/component builder bot rn but this website https://discord.builders/ isnt far off from what you could accomplish in discord

for a simpler example, if you just want embeds, not components v2, you could display the work in progress embed and then have a string select menu containing items like Author/Title/Description/Color/Thumbnail/Image/Footer, all properties that you can set, and when the user selects one of those it opens an appropriate modal

if you want to streamline things, it may make sense to also group together similar properties like Title/Description and Image/Thumbnail, so the user doesnt have as much navigation to do

[deft vector]

This is a wonderful tool I will definitely be using this

I appreciate the advice and apologies for delayed responses I am sadly at work

[lilac cloak]

oh and for embed fields i recommend you have a separate select menu for those since you can add or subtract those more freely rather than just setting or unsetting them

in theory you should be able to do all this pretty easily without components v2, just with legacy components placed underneath so that you can use an actual embed for the wip preview

[lilac cloak]

👍

[cedar shale]

Hello world!

I'm there because I'm actually unsatisfied with my actual automod module for my Discord bot

To be clear, I won't ask any help for coding or even a code to copy/past, I just need some advices of what I can add to make a really good automod

Actually I've made an anti spam messages, anti spam pings, also an anti raid mode (That I can configure to avoid many people joining at the same time, configurable from 5 people to 20 maximum and from 15 seconds to 60 seconds) and also bad words/links filters

My automod is also giving mutes and warns automatically depending of how many times per 24hours my members are doing a stupid action

So? What else can I add? Should I improve the actual stuffs I've made or are they good enough?

Thanks for your future advices 🙏

[split linden]

that's a very open question for the intro of "i am unsatisfied"
so what's your point of dissatisfaction?

[junior idol]

Quality > quantity. Just adding more features doesn't make something better. Like Souji said I think you need to describe what's making you "unsatisfied" because right now you've just described your feature, not explained what about it you don't like.

[cedar shale]

I feel like my module is not really complete

[steady sentinel]

always room for improvement

[junior idol]

What makes you feel like it isn't complete?

[steady sentinel]

nothing is really ever complete

[junior idol]

So just YouTube sponsorship games?

[harsh sedge]

u can also connect ur controller to ur phone and play w it

[steady sentinel]

id rather just play on my ps5

[harsh sedge]

ah yeah let me just play on my ps5 while riding on the train

[steady sentinel]

i dont like gaMING ON my phone

guessing you dont have a car

[cedar shale]

I agree, also nothing is perfect, but maybe some ideas could help me to improve my bot

That's why I'm asking people about some ideas

[harsh sedge]

i do but id rather not take an extra 40 mins driving into central

[steady sentinel]

anti raid maybe

[harsh sedge]

and also pay a charge for driving into central

[steady sentinel]

hm true that is long tbf

[cedar shale]

Already made

[junior idol]

Honestly, if someone had unique and interesting ideas I don't think they would just give them away to some random person on discord

at least I wouldn't, I would add them to my own bot

[harsh sedge]

what if u gave them nitro 🔥

[steady sentinel]

ps plus is offering nitro for 1 month tbf

[harsh sedge]

monzo offers 3 months of uber for free i love it

[steady sentinel]

where i have monzo

not for free tho

[cedar shale]

Ideas are visible once a bot is online 🤷‍♂️

[steady sentinel]

uber prices are a joke

[steady sentinel]

true that

[harsh sedge]

perks?

[steady sentinel]

wdym what perks

[harsh sedge]

u can pay 7 pounds a month for perks

[cedar shale]

Yup

[steady sentinel]

still does f all uber scam

[harsh sedge]

ur paying for monzo though

[steady sentinel]

am not

[harsh sedge]

uber is just a perk along w other perks

[harsh sedge]

no im saying if u were

[steady sentinel]

i dont pay for monzo

[junior idol]

So just steal features from other bots then 🤷‍♂️

[harsh sedge]

yagpb

[steady sentinel]

ye look a wick

you could add logs maybe

[cedar shale]

Could you maybe give some bots who got an automod system I can study then instead of just telling me to "steal"?

[steady sentinel]

or a /snipe command which is totally not tos

[junior idol]

I don't know? I don't use any automod bots

[steady sentinel]

||wickbot.com||

[junior idol]

There's probably a billion out there if you look though

[steady sentinel]

discord automod is pretty trash tbf

[barren grove]

i highly disagree

[steady sentinel]

ofc you do

[barren grove]

what does that mean?

[junior idol]

I think it's good enough for 90% of cases

[cedar shale]

So why answering with no answer at this point? With all the respect for you, I'm just asking for advices, no need to take part of it if you doesn't want to give some to someone 🤷‍♂️

[junior idol]

This is a general chat, everyone is allowed to take part

[steady sentinel]

you love discord

you probs like everything about it

[barren grove]

when did i ever say anything about loving it

dont assume

[steady sentinel]

i said probs

tell me why you disagree

[cedar shale]

Certainly but generally out of respect we do not deviate from the subject

Useless to to answer when you can't give a real answer man

[barren grove]

unfortunately, i do not have the time to debate since im working, but if you look at the true features of automod, you'll see how good it is

[steady sentinel]

alright no problem

[junior idol]

I'm just chatting dude, feel free to ignore me if you think my advice is useless

[cedar shale]

One great advice at least

[steady sentinel]

[ripe pumice]

I am A long time R6 PC player. I played a bunch of moblie when it release. Wild how well the capture the game play. I think they did a great job

[steady sentinel]

who your fav ops

[junior idol]

Imagine seeing someone on the train in full gaming gear, a controller and a phone sweating their ass off in an R6 game

[harsh sedge]

excatly

its great how well its done and faster paced

[ripe pumice]

IDK. I play what ever is required of me at the time. mostly support and Intel Ops

Dark here are my stats for Ranked last season Y10S4

[harsh sedge]

39 hours 😭

[ripe pumice]

Dont at me 😭

[harsh sedge]

long time r6 player 😭 🙏

[ripe pumice]

Steam tells me I have put in 4,432 hours into the game 😭 I have been playing since 2018

[harsh sedge]

yeah thats more correct

39 hours is crazy

[ripe pumice]

That is just in the competive game mode

[harsh sedge]

bro 💀

u played 4k hours of casual? 😭

id genuinely go crazy

[ripe pumice]

It is the one live service game I play. I used to play Apex but have not played that in years

[steady sentinel]

fr cas is dry asf

[harsh sedge]

bro casual would make me go insane lowkey

[zealous perch]

nerds

[barren grove]

you rang?

[candid tide]

Slay the Spire new Kickstarter is up

[zinc hedge]

They just released an incredibly well selling game why the fuck are they on Kickstarter

[barren grove]

mon, mark

[candid tide]

Board game, this one is based on the downfall mod

We're currently playing sts2 multiplayer

[jagged quarry]

i kinda want to get the new board game

i heard it's good

[zinc hedge]

That still doesn't explain why they need funding

[strong valve]

well it's good to get pre-orders so you don't overproduce

[thorn pewter]

Damn I don't play any of those characters except Aruni

[candid tide]

Board games are expensive

[candid tide]

We backed the original, it's a ton of fun and really captured the feel of the video game

Excited to see a sts2 board game eventually

[jagged quarry]

ya i've only heard good things

[candid tide]

I just gotta convince my wife that we can afford the $110 for the minis

[amber spindle]

you can do it

[vestal perch]

Vibe coding a Discord websocket client let's see if it works

[strong valve]

when it's done do a diff with it and djs v12

[normal kiln]

blame discord if it doesnt work

[vestal perch]

Oh I was just gonna open #986520997006032896 posts for each issue

[normal kiln]

that also works

.... im redoing my pet thingy commands ... i TOTALLY FORGOT to put i18next in it.........

i hate myself

[strong valve]

"claude add i18next to these files that I forgot"

[normal kiln]

meh

[jagged quarry]

best use of claude is to follow a pattern you've already established

[normal kiln]

and i almost fucked it up by adding it for the db

my brain is not there

inventory?.push({
          itemName: itemType,
          type: itemType, 
          quantity,
        });```
i almost added it for that when i need to add it to 
```ts
await interaction.reply(
        i18next.t("...", {
          itemName: itemType, // <-- here
          quantity,
          lng: interaction.locale,
        }),
      );```

[vestal perch]

Ooo I very much like your avatar

[jagged quarry]

[normal kiln]

lucky me i already had that list somewhere

[amber spindle]

Does it at least handle ratelimiting (for http conns)

[vestal perch]

No lmfao

[amber spindle]

Oh and reconnect

[jagged quarry]

i don't know if you should be including emojis in your strings like that

[vestal perch]

It is literally just a quick and dirty websocket to do exactly one thing

[normal kiln]

its only for displaying , the db uses enums

[jagged quarry]

i meant that translators may interpret them somewhat liberally

[normal kiln]

oh ... right i didnt thought about that

[vestal perch]

Even worse with RTL languages lol

[amber spindle]

Lol fair

What about sharding

[jagged quarry]

i've never tried to get a string with an emoji translated so idk

[normal kiln]

should i use {{}} for that then ? like {{user}} , but for emojis ?

[vestal perch]

Nope

It is, quite frankly, just a websocket connection to assign a role when someone joins my server only if they have a player record in my idle game lol

[normal kiln]

quick example

[vestal perch]

https://git.nhcarrigan.com/nhcarrigan/elysium/src/branch/main/apps/api/src/services/gateway.ts

[jagged quarry]

well it comes down to how the emoji is intended to place in the phrase. if you want the emoji to be built into the string then doing that isn't much different from just directly inlining it. but if you want the emoji to be rendered intentionally separately then i would fully exclude it and insert the emoji in code before the string.

[normal kiln]

I see

[vestal perch]

It's about the sentence order, I think.

Like we might say "🩷 Support the developer" and another language might use "developer 🩷 support"

[jagged quarry]

precisely

[normal kiln]

well in that (my) case the emoji should always be at the beginning

[jagged quarry]

yeah to avoid confusion i'd recommend just never including the emoji, i feel like it would add a lot of ambiguity

[normal kiln]

gotcha

thanks for the recommendation

[jagged quarry]

np

i just caused a revenue sev because of translations

[normal kiln]

😄

[normal kiln]

Language barrier moment , what is a sev ?

[jagged quarry]

shorthand for incident essentially, i'm not sure what it actually means

[normal kiln]

oh so you did a incident that cost money basically ?

in that case : ouch

....hmmm... that wont work

im ...very good.. at NOT following casings...

VSC should have a extension for that...

[cold jasper]

Ball

[normal kiln]

my feeling tells me that my casing will break i18n

[normal kiln]

Ball.

ah wait no it will not break...

the enum value is the i18n KEY , not the i18n VALUE ... im okay !

Made myself scared for a moment..

[tawdry tulip]

shop.toy[itemType]

Oh that's a template string.. can't see it on this tiny mobile screen

[normal kiln]

yep , template 😄

there

...by sending that i realised that i fucked up...

at least its the only place i managed to put the translation at a place where it shouldnt be

...that i see

[deft vector]

since when was "@everyone" clickable?

[barren grove]

that’s crazyyyy

[jagged quarry]

i rolled this out a few months ago

[normal kiln]

clickable and if you click on someone you see the profile

[amber spindle]

Fair

But why not just use djs core lol :]

[vestal perch]

Because I did not want to load another package into this app lol

[deft vector]

make it actually display everyone

[normal kiln]

that would be a nightmare

[deft vector]

roll out integration configs within discords own server settings

[barren grove]

gnnn

[normal kiln]

good night jo!

[amber spindle]

Yeah fair... you really dont need mucg

Just that event

[vestal perch]

Also legitimately wanted to see if I could vibe code it lol

[normal kiln]

and the answer to that is ?

[amber spindle]

I mean its not like websockets are that complicated

[vestal perch]

Yes.

[amber spindle]

I tried a few weeks ago, and annoying part was trying to do the compression lol

[jagged quarry]

https://tenor.com/view/no-i-dont-think-i-will-captain-america-old-capt-gif-17162888

[vestal perch]

This is a goated feature tbh

[jagged quarry]

it's quite good

it had been shipped to staff for so long that most staff thought it had been released

[normal kiln]

lol

[frozen quiver]

its such a nice feature

[mighty urchin]

hmm what is crawl doing on spotify?

[amber spindle]

crawling

[inner nexus]

https://yuki.suou.moe/winbox64_4114-9g5oJsdn.png

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-perfectlybalanced-gif-18301221

[amber spindle]

#djs-help-v14 message should i test this or just commit and hope for the best?

[neat patrol]

i'd test it just for the sake of actually knowing if it actually fixes it

[amber spindle]

fair

[neat patrol]

since you said you didn't dig

[worthy current]

When is v15 gonna come?

[neat patrol]

when we feel like it

what do you need v15 for

[lilac cloak]

at this point we gonna get v15 before checkboxes

[amber spindle]

@neat patrol oh did i tell you the worst part, it shares cache across bots

[neat patrol]

well, again, custom id is custom id

it makes it a single layer cache

[amber spindle]

but yeah this "fixes" that one issue

[neat patrol]

isntead of "modal A from bot B in guild C in channel D"

[amber spindle]

okokok plz no judge

[neat patrol]

and it also pretty much prevents cache staying there forever if you change any of the combinations

use same modal in different channel instead - one submitted other dead in cache

[amber spindle]

yeah this is a reasonable thing to do

[neat patrol]

until you happen to open it in the previous channel next time in several hours

[amber spindle]

but idk, i feel like at least when i have default values they should be compared or smth higher

[neat patrol]

and then discover that despite you submitting it is still cached?

[amber spindle]

like i can just casually undo what someone else did unless i really add randomness

[neat patrol]

have all modals have uuidv4

and link that locally to data on your end

you aren't limited by 100 chars this way, and can store whatever you desire that's linked to the id

[amber spindle]

yeah

[lilac cloak]

i'm probably gonna add some random values to my custom ids

[lilac cloak]

i'm going to judge your interactionCreate

[amber spindle]

ill be nice and allow cache, but just hash the guildId + applicationId + userId to ensure some fun.. and incase discord is weird not allow someone else to submit

[amber spindle]

go ahead

[lilac cloak]

have you read the discordjs guide by any chance

[amber spindle]

ew

but prob some time ago

[lilac cloak]

do you have a normal command handler

[amber spindle]

https://github.com/RiskyMH/honeypot/blob/main/src/events/interaction-create.ts

[amber spindle]

uh idk

[lilac cloak]

i'm unhappy now

[amber spindle]

why :(

i only like have 3 commands

[lilac cloak]

plus modals and stuff

[amber spindle]

at least i dont be funny with the awaitModalSubmit

stateless ftw

[lilac cloak]

my bot is, except for cache and db ofc, almost completely stateless

[jagged quarry]

My apps are also mostly stateless except for the state

[harsh sedge]

db doesnt make it stateful though does it

[amber spindle]

you cant have state if you have no users

[lilac cloak]

when i think of stateless i think of the kind of state that you lose if the bot restarts, like collectors

[lilac cloak]

🤬

[amber spindle]

mr add to docs, plz the padding... or the lack there of

also i forgot that emoji even existed

[frozen quiver]

go to bed

[jagged quarry]

It's upsetting that they shipped this without checking long emoji names

[neat patrol]

nab, works on my machine

[jagged quarry]

But not upsetting enough for me to fix it

[amber spindle]

hover, not click

[neat patrol]

looks padded to me

[amber spindle]

lol is that photoshop or even more cursed

[neat patrol]

mspaint suffices

[lilac cloak]

the walls of ur room look padded to me

[neat patrol]

then you weren't in my room, i'm afraid

[lilac cloak]

don't be afraid

[amber spindle]

im afraid but im afraid

[neat patrol]

now imma check my locks just to be sure

[lilac cloak]

i'll help u check them

[pliant cedar]

676767

[empty lagoon]

lord have mercy

[copper jacinth]

Hey you got a couple tabs open if you didn't notice

[pliant cedar]

bros doing 101% productivity

[brave marsh]

must've been a long night

[harsh sedge]

what mac was intended for

[elfin ore]

voice ded for anyone else?

nvm, it's been reported

appl pls fix

[frozen quiver]

surprised souji didnt come in here too

[split linden]

https://discordstatus.com/incidents/9sng5r2j71sq

[frozen quiver]

Thanks

What would we do without you

[split linden]

https://discordstatus.com/incidents/9sng5r2j71sq

[muted needle]

hej souji, could you perhaps post the link again? I don't see it

[barren grove]

wait discord is down?

[muted needle]

just voice, partially

[barren grove]

im joking ik already

[muted needle]

https://tenor.com/view/that-is-rude-matty-matheson-larb-is-goooood-its-disrespectful-impolite-gif-26328309

[barren grove]

i lob u too sweetie

[frozen quiver]

LMAO i was gonna shitpost but it literally connected when i tried

[deft vector]

Interesting github email

[vestal perch]

I thought they already did that lmfao

appel why u no fix already

[indigo verge]

*from whenever github copilot was released onward...

*even if you opt out

[little forge]

hi

could anybody please advise me a little about an automation that I am planning for my server to link with discord/

[ripe pumice]

You can ask the question but you need to share what you're planning on doing

[steady sentinel]

yeah what bot you making exactly

[little forge]

I want to add RSS app in my server

But it says it doesn’t have enough permission

I’m 50% geek and I’ve tried everything

[zinc hedge]

To do what, add apps?

[barren grove]

evenin

[zinc hedge]

hey jo

[barren grove]

hru?

[normal kiln]

tempted to move all that to another bot lol

yep ... lets do that.. i will regret it later if i dont

or i will regret now because of the time i will spend moving all that ... who knows

[quiet fulcrum]

[normal kiln]

i am already regretting it XD

Separation of a file of 500 ish lines into separates command builders .... 🙄

[barren grove]

hi

[normal kiln]

because i decided that "why not put that ALL IN THE SAME FILE"

[barren grove]

im gonna rewrite my http bot soon, gitbot

to cv2

the current version works fine, but the code is cursed

[quiet fulcrum]

Heylo

[normal kiln]

noice

im just moving my tamagotchi pet thingy over a bot that will just...do that

i called the bot Petchi lol

[barren grove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1215477088140927056.webp?size=240

[normal kiln]

i think the only last real thing i need to implements is aging XD

i dont know yet if i implement that or not

you know like baby, toddler , kid , teen , adult senior and ded

baby and toddler cannot battle , kid and teen has medium attack and adult full attack and when they get older they lose attack strenght

against other pets

[hoary mirage]

That sounds interesting. Would aging be a reflection of real time passed since birth, or would interactions with the pet instigate age increasing?

[normal kiln]

i dont know that yet , but i think it will be link with a leveling system

i mean , thats almost the easiest solution

i already have a personality implentation made for them , i could easily like ... link a teen pet with a passive agressive personality if i want

/pet battle

interaction.reply("Pff... you're not my mother") .. see the thing

[hoary mirage]

Def would be easier, could also be a little confusing. Leveling as a game concept is usually associated with becoming stronger

[normal kiln]

true

[hoary mirage]

And lol, reminds me of pokemon not obeying because you don't have a badge

Out of curiosity, what sort of command structure did you approach your bot with? A bunch of slash commands with isolated interactions where the user has to use new slash commands frequently, or are you leaning into nested commands or interaction loops for perpetual gameplay?

Or something else entirely?

[normal kiln]

For now its bunch of slash commands

with these as commands

Train , quest play and care are linked together

by thatfor example i have a quest name train your pet , if that quest is activated and you train your pet , it gives you money , exp and a quest completed

same for play and care

[hoary mirage]

Ahh okay, so they are linked by your DB tables, not necessarily as subcommands. So if you start the quest that involves training, you don't automatically get brought to the training command, you have to type /train, yeah?

[normal kiln]

yep

its pretty raw for the moment i would say

[hoary mirage]

I started one of my game bots with a pretty similar approach. It worked for a while until it started getting more and more complex. I really wanted to have the user basically start a game session and have the commands be standalone, or navigable kind of like a video game menu

[normal kiln]

ill begin to make it functionnal , after that if i want a fancier approach , i will check for that xD

my approach here is more like a Tamagotchi ( if you know what that is ) than a game session

[hoary mirage]

Functional and working is the best starting point, everything can always be iterated on 👍

I'm vaguely familiar with them. So they aren't something you're actively playing with for an extended period of time ,right? You're basically just checking in on them occasionally?

[normal kiln]

yeah and you make sure they dont die XD

hunger and happiness drops if you dont take care of them

[hoary mirage]

Naww can't let them die 😭

Sounds like a fun project though! If you do decide you want to interconnect some of your commands more to allow navigation between them for quality of life, you should give me a shout. Been building an open source tool that could help

[normal kiln]

sure

[surreal palm]

󠁛󠀣󠁣󠁤󠀱󠀸󠀰󠀷󠀬󠀣󠁤󠁥󠀳󠁥󠀲󠀷󠁝

[wet ibex]

This made me chuckle haha

[normal kiln]

Having a script for autogenerating commands names and all for markdown is a blessing

asked AI for it and i tweaked it for make it work correctly , and im not ashamed for it XD

it does what it needs to do and its perfectly fine like that

[barren grove]

good morning ☀️

[normal kiln]

good morning !

[barren grove]

how you?

[normal kiln]

pissed and happy at the same time , weird sensation lol , about you ?

[barren grove]

oh-

i’m at school gonna meet with an intern specialist at the accessibility office where i work

then i work from 12-5

then class at 6

long day

[normal kiln]

ouch

[normal kiln]

...i dont know what attibute i can add to this ...

for example , thats what i did for animals

same for personality

[hoary mirage]

🤔 Could have a requirements attribute if they need to get to a certain level or have a minimum happiness or hunger or health to do the things

[normal kiln]

Maybe , for now i did that

reusing enums already done because , i would be dumb NOT doing that lol

[wise wasp]

Would be cool if you could add it to your CI so it does it atomically whenever you push to main? Idk how much use you'll get out if it but would be a pretty neat automation, maybe others could use it as well

[barren grove]

i love automation

[wise wasp]

ikr

[normal kiln]

ci ... ?

[barren grove]

command interface? idk

[wise wasp]

GitHub actions

[barren grove]

oh nvm

[normal kiln]

i hate them

[wise wasp]

Fair

[normal kiln]

they never fucking work , i upload manually instead

[wise wasp]

Yeah valid tbh

You self host a lot of stuff right? Maybe you could self host your own Jenkins server and mess around in that, it's a nice learning experience (well was for me anyway), but yeah idk how much use you'll get out of it

[normal kiln]

i self host everything

[wise wasp]

I'm personally a massive fan of on prem stuff

[normal kiln]

without SSH

i have my server right behind me

[wise wasp]

Real

But what if you're too lazy to go to it idk

[vestal perch]

CI = "continuous integration"

Sorry, I know it was clarified as "GitHub Actions" but did not see anyone actually explain the stupid acronym~

[barren grove]

ur a github action

[normal kiln]

It’s close enough that it will be another level of laziness if I don’t want to go on it

[barren grove]

DOG

[cold jasper]

How do you do stuff on it if not through SSH

[vestal perch]

That explains why I'm always failing
-# /lh

[normal kiln]

i get up of my freaking chair

[vestal perch]

I'm tweeting this

[normal kiln]

dog ?

[wise wasp]

I should have probably mentioned that but figured GitHub actions would be an easier way to communicate it over

Thank you Naomi

[cold jasper]

Yea but do you like RDP into it or something, or do you just have it connected to a monitor with a kb/m

[barren grove]

LOL this looks like a dog

[normal kiln]

the latter

[wise wasp]

too far imo

[normal kiln]

its my black cat 😄

[barren grove]

.

EVEN BETTER

[vestal perch]

Oh absolutely~ Your explanation was quite clear!

We just work in an industry of "alphabet soup" so I like to clarify acronyms because I see ones I don't know all the damn time~

[barren grove]

we love void

[wise wasp]

you're so real for this, I'll definitely try to make more of an effort to tell people that 🫶

[barren grove]

MEOW

[normal kiln]

MEOW MEOW

[warm saffron]

MEOOOOW

[normal kiln]

the one that is sniffing , is the mother and the gray/white is the father of the black one

[warm saffron]

One of our apartment cats gave birth to 6 younglings

We have no idea how to take care of this many

[lilac cloak]

omgggg el gato

[barren grove]

here is baby

sweetie pie

[hoary mirage]

Being allergic to cats is awful. They are so cute but are forbidden fruit

Can never own one 😭

[barren grove]

i used to be allergic to cats until i got like 7 years worth of allergy shots

[hoary mirage]

Do they actually work well?

[barren grove]

oh for sure

i take allergy meds every day, but they are not as awful as they used to be

[elder eagle]

Is it normal that I get an error when I try to add an answer to a mandatory onboarding question?

[barren grove]

shouldn't be, whats the err

maybe i can try to help

[elder eagle]

Can't save the changes

[steady sentinel]

rate limited

[barren grove]

how would you be rate limited from that…

[elder eagle]

The onboarding question is the one that adds them to the one channel they can write in. Maybe should've specified

[steady sentinel]

saving too many times

[barren grove]

doubt it

[elder eagle]

ah, had to do the same hacky thing I did in the first place when I made that question. That explains that

allow everyone to write in a channel everyone sees. add the answer to the onboarding question. disallow everyone to write in the channel everyone sees again.

[barren grove]

whoops sorry im working so i had to take care of something

working the front desk

[lilac cloak]

man i love how people tell me that all the linux compatibility layers just solve everything

and then i have several pieces of software that are, at best, very annoying/difficult to get working and the "solutions" i find just dont seem to work

[jagged quarry]

jUsT rEaD tHe WiKi

[long girder]

welcome to the world of the linux desktop

[lilac cloak]

i need ros2 jazzy for a club im in and it just doesnt seem to work on fedora, which is what im using because iirc this server recommended it, and i need fusion360 for another club im in (doesnt strictly have to be fusion360 but thats the only option im especially familiar with) and the fusion360 for linux version i found has a syntax error in its installer

[vestal perch]

Yes, because Discord ships errors like they're features

[harsh sedge]

yeah onboarding is soo weird

mine sometime just never saves no matter what no errors

[jagged quarry]

the error experience is equally as important as the happy path

[vestal perch]

Naomi is significantly less upset by an error message if it is delivered with rainbows or a unicorn or an anime girl

[elder eagle]

like the angry unicorn of github?

[vestal perch]

YES

But also github outages are very make Naomi happy because it means she can skiv off

[jagged quarry]

https://mrshu.github.io/github-statuses/

you have about a 1 in 10 chance that github is down at any given time

[harsh sedge]

all this ai 👵 😡

[vestal perch]

NaomiAI

[split linden]

happy path, not to be confused with happy trail

[vestal perch]

Amazig

Amazing, even.

[jagged quarry]

zig mentioned

[vestal perch]

zag

[barren grove]

is that nitro exclusive

[vestal perch]

I have no idea

In fact, entirely possible it's an experiment~

[jagged quarry]

ฅ^•ﻌ•^ฅ

[split linden]

@jagged quarry

[jagged quarry]

(｡˃ ᵕ ˂ )⸝♡

[split linden]

what are those called again?

[dawn geyser]

woah ARM making their own cpu

[torn stone]

kaomojis

[split linden]

thanks

[dawn geyser]

for AI with 136 cores

[split linden]

⸂⸂⸜(രᴗര๑)⸝⸃⸃

[ripe pumice]

In collaboration with Meta. For Meta datacenters

[barren grove]

what a great productive day i had

lots of professors picking up exams, students taking exams

answering the front desk phone

[atomic monolith]

When I worked as a receptionist I unplugged the phone half of the time so it didn't work at all

Good old days of getting paid to do absolutely nothing most of the time

[barren grove]

im a college assistant so im doing different assignments all the time, which is nice

[atomic monolith]

Ooh that's nice. I like jobs where you're not doing just 1 thing all the time

[barren grove]

yeah its nice

[normal kiln]

Came back from the doctor

they think of doing a Cholecystectomy for the gallblader

yayy../s

[cunning void]

Ooo, I assisted in a cholecystectomy ot just the other day

[normal kiln]

how invasive that is ?

they go through the belly button or they open up ?

[cunning void]

Belly button

[normal kiln]

ah ok

another scar on the belly button , noice >_>

[cunning void]

There's like total 3 holes tho

[normal kiln]

3?

[cunning void]

Or ports as we call it

Yeah, one for camera, and other for instruments

[normal kiln]

button being 1 of 3 , where are the 2 others ?

sides ?

[cunning void]

Side, and upper abdomen

[normal kiln]

....ill ask for a fat removal at the same time then

[cunning void]

There's also 4 port lapchole, but we generally don't do that much here. Don't know about canada tbh

[normal kiln]

fat removal is the same amount of time i need to be off work ...

[normal kiln]

ill check the procedure then

for now i have a abdominal(belly) echography(?) scheduled with a 2 months medication and a blood work
but the surgery is a option to consider

all that because i cant digest

simple , this week... theres 7 days in a week , 4 days out of 7 i was not able to digest

[vestal perch]

echography is an ultrasound?

[normal kiln]

ultrasound yes that was the word i was looking for , thanks

wanted to say imaging , but thats not the same process lol

[azure sail]

well ultrasound is an imaging technique

[cunning void]

Good luck

[normal kiln]

welll.... you are right on that but people often link that to a MRI or CAT scan

[azure sail]

ye, very true

just being pedantic since I literally have an "imaging" rotation and it 100% includes ultrasounds lol

[normal kiln]

x)

[normal kiln]

Thanks

[cunning void]

Daro weren't you developing ai system for reading (or helping) reports? Or was that someone else?

[normal kiln]

the blood work that i have to do has like 10 thing checked on it ( checkboxes )

maybe more

[azure sail]

That's not me. But I did work on a simulation & AI system to quickly calculate patient dose from their CT scans and add to their medical records

[cunning void]

At least canada has healtcare, so ig you don't have to worry about dozens of tests lol

[normal kiln]

i go private

[cunning void]

Private one's don't?

[normal kiln]

just today cost me 500$

[vestal perch]

Our speech to text models are used in healthcare :3

[azure sail]

at least some times you can get 2-3 checked with one vial. But yeah probably looking at a like 4-5 vial draw :/

[normal kiln]

thats less than pregnancy blood work at least

pregnancy blood work is 9 vial

[azure sail]

wew

god damn

[cunning void]

Tbh I'm always baffled how much medical stuff costs in the west, especially in America. It just sounds so unreal to me

[normal kiln]

well they check everything , everything

[azure sail]

I'm starting to see those in qute a few clinics tbh

[azure sail]

yeah that makes sense I guess

[atomic monolith]

Ports?

[normal kiln]

for me they even checked my DNA in blood work

to see if i was missing chromosone of some sort

because of my past pregnancy

[cunning void]

You know, like a port of entry?

[normal kiln]

ethernet ports yes

[cunning void]

You are using it to enter the body, so ports

[azure sail]

are these cold or warm water ports

:)

[atomic monolith]

😭

I don't think I've ever heard anyone refer to them as ports

[normal kiln]

in that sentence ive completely read ports in french ... dunno why

[cunning void]

Probably warm lol

[normal kiln]

water ports

*Daro should understand that *

[vestal perch]

Me too! Honestly it's great because my clinic automatically sends me the transcription after my visit so I can actually remember what we talked about~

[atomic monolith]

I feel like these should be the standard even though not everyone is eager to provide it

[normal kiln]

i needed to fill a consent for AI voice recording for the clinic

[azure sail]

I am... cautiously optimistic. I've seen too many people just quickly click "yes I've checked this" on boxes without checking things to think everyone does their due diligence in making sure there's nothing wrong in there.

Yes, it's probably still better than not having anything, but also letting wrong info slip in is... spooky.

(this is not to say it's bad. I still think this is better than not having it)

[vestal perch]

It's actually quite expensive. Because it is health care, at least here in the U.S. they must comply with HIPAA. Which means that they need to use an AI that is also HIPAA compliant.

Since that means the model cannot retain any audio or transcription data, the company does not get to use that data to improve the model. Most companies will charge extra to account for this.

[atomic monolith]

On the bright side you can at least rest somewhat assured that your data won't be used to train a model

[vestal perch]

Oh yes, it would be a nightmare in the hands of the general public. It works for me because I studied medicine for a couple years so my doctor and I talk in medical terms which is what the AI transcription is most accurate in recording~

[vestal perch]

I, personally, care very little about my data. But I am very against consuming data without consent, in general. Thankfully, the AI companies that have models used in health care have to go through a shit load of annual auditing to ensure compliance.
-# Which also contributes to the cost~

[atomic monolith]

I tried to become a pharmacist before moving to being a software engineer. I don't regret my decision, but sometimes I think to myself that It would've been really good to have that type of knowledge as well

[azure sail]

actually, how well does that work with people with heavy accents. Do they generally account for that easy enough?

[strong valve]

just do both

[normal kiln]

Software engineer for pharmacists

[atomic monolith]

😭

[strong valve]

I see some pharmacists standing around all day, when you have downtime just write code

ez

[atomic monolith]

2 high paying jobs fr

[vestal perch]

I can't speak to other products, but our dedicated "medical" model supports loads of different English dialects (and should be able to handle accents fairly well). There is also the option to use our general purpose model, which is hella multilingual~

[atomic monolith]

Realistically I can't do it though. It's why I dropped that path in the first place

[strong valve]

I did hear the hours for pharmacists can kinda suck though

[atomic monolith]

I'm just not that smart, idk

[atomic monolith]

I think it's pretty subjective depending on where you work and for how long, but generally it's not as great as being a SWE

[normal kiln]

i could be smart enough for being a pharmacist , i just dont use my brain to actually look and be smart 😂 (in other words im lazy to learn)

[atomic monolith]

Thank god I'm never on page

[strong valve]

yeah an acquaintance I know of had strange hours every week, it could be night shifts and day shifts

it was hard for her to go out because her hours weren't regular

[atomic monolith]

That sucks

[normal kiln]

irregular work hours sucks

[vestal perch]

I did two years of undergrad work for a Bachelor's in Education programme, and minored in psychology. I was wildly unprepared for university and was not accepted into the programme. So I dropped out and got married.

There was a period of time where I worked for a labour union. Went to law school for two years, with a specialisation in labour law. That school closed down quite suddenly, and there I was with more debt and no degree. So I kinda said "fuck it" for a while.
-# The school closed so hard that the IRS audited me because they had no record it ever existed~

THEN I decided to try medical school. At this point I had fuckall for direction in life, having given up on goals. I liked medical shit, figured I'd do some medical shit. Ended up getting a divorce and had to drop out.

Did 11 years of retail management, quit my job, was gonna play vidya for 6 months and then go work in human resources. Got bored after 2 weeks, decided I needed a hobby. Taught myself to code. Got involved with freeCodeCamp. Got a job offer 7 months after I started learning.

And now here I am, doing software engineering and community management and getting paid to shitpost on Discord~

[cunning void]

Yeah, do both. Just look at me

[atomic monolith]

This needs to be an inspirational blog story

Also IRS audits sound terrifying

[azure sail]

The school closed so hard that the IRS audited me because they had no record it ever existed WEW

[normal kiln]

its terrifying only of you have something to hide

[atomic monolith]

Lol

[cunning void]

Damn, that is a lot of things. Hats off

[normal kiln]

for real tho lol

[vestal perch]

The learning to code portion actually is a blog post~

I had not considered writing about the educational journey. Maybe I should do that.

[atomic monolith]

I'd probably be screwed if my parents didn't help me file taxes tbh. I'm completely incapable of doing them myself (and i don't even live in the US where you have to figure out how much you owe the government)

[atomic monolith]

Damn okay, I'm gonna read this lol

[strong valve]

I respect people that have a nonlinear career path, big props

[normal kiln]

taxes.... i should do mine...

[vestal perch]

Now I make my living helping other people do the same~

[normal kiln]

my carrer path sucks compared to you 😂

[atomic monolith]

As stupid as this may sound, the reason I got a job in a decent company is because of a Discord bot 💀

[azure sail]

nah, it's terrifying either way tbh.

Got audited by the CRA last year due to me submitting a large medical claim. They then refused it and mandated I pay back with interest. This very nearly caused me to go into negative money.

I then was able to submit a grievance for re-evaluation, and after 3 phone calls where I had to tell them yes I did in fact send all documents, they just had to FUCKING SCROLL DOWN ON THE PDF DOCUMENT they eventually re-approved it.

That all took almost a full year

[normal kiln]

My familly is in retail stores ( owners ) im in retail store ( not owner ) end of the story

[azure sail]

this was a significant amount of money, and a genuine massive stress

[atomic monolith]

Maybe not directly, but it definitely did steer me towards that

[atomic monolith]

What the fuck

[azure sail]

so yes, even doing nothing wrong, if I hear my taxes are being audited it's scary

[normal kiln]

ive been audited a lot of times and never been scared honestly , but i never did huge medical claims

[azure sail]

fair, but this was close to 10k that was flip-flopping around. It was... unpleasant

[normal kiln]

i still owe the gov about 20 000$ apparently and ... they fucking wait

saw the letter , reaction: ah...
4 years later receive the same letter , put that in the trash dont care anymore

[atomic monolith]

It's concerning how you say this with so much "calm" 😭

[normal kiln]

they audit me but they see nothing

they dont even see the "debt"

its in my CRA account ( the debt ) they dont see it ... so ... i dont see it either

you dont see , i dont see

[atomic monolith]

Lmao

[normal kiln]

i think the biggest medical claim i did was 4000

approved instantly

[normal kiln]

fair enough

all my gov debt can be taken via my paycheck honestly they pay themself automatically

like last time 5000$ to quebec , they took it directly through my gov income

for 2 years i think?

[vestal perch]

I have a few thousand in back taxes I owe - I give them $300 a month and they're like "aight cool we good" and then they just keep my $5000 tax return to apply to the arrears and it's gucci

[atomic monolith]

I think the largest medical "claim" I've ever had to make was 500 euros 💀

[vestal perch]

Turns out the IRS gives a lot less fucks if you give them money~

[normal kiln]

yeah

Quebec just cut into what i receive by them per month and they dont complain lol

[atomic monolith]

This is for dental related work btw.. yes, dental care sucks in the EU as well

[normal kiln]

i just received ... less money

[normal kiln]

500 euro , thats nothing lol

my last dental work was 13 000

[atomic monolith]

Considering I paid absolutely nothing when getting a kidney transplant* it's actually quite horrifying

[normal kiln]

is dental doctor a private thing ?

oh wait , maybe the term private is not the same for EU

[atomic monolith]

Here private means that it's not provided by the government pretty much

[normal kiln]

ok yeah same

[atomic monolith]

The government does offer dental care, yes, but you're likely going to wait 3 months for an appointment because of the sheer amount of people

So your only "real" choice is a private dentist, which isn't fully covered by insurance (if none at all)

[normal kiln]

and 500$ was for what ?

teeth removal ?

[copper jacinth]

how else are you gonna make a necklace?

[normal kiln]

dont need a dentist for that

the necklace is just.. cutier with a dentist

[atomic monolith]

2 fillings and a wisdom tooth removal

[normal kiln]

Oh, cheap

...well.... about the same when i check that

just wisdom tooth my dentist 200 euro ( if not more since last time i went there )

[atomic monolith]

I mean it isn't that expensive especially given my income... it just looks like that by comparison to how much the government covers for you

If only public dental care was decent 🥲

[normal kiln]

yeah the price went up lol

[normal kiln]

lemme guess , France with its like ... 60 million people ?

with that much people i would understand the wait

66 * million sorry...

[atomic monolith]

Nope, France's Sécurité sociale is amazing

[normal kiln]

ah

[atomic monolith]

I'm talking about the world's pizza and pasta capital

[normal kiln]

i see

[atomic monolith]

Gotta love Italian health care

[normal kiln]

cant you just... go somewhere else in the EU for healthcare ?

genuine question

could ask my husband but im lazy and he wouldnt understand the context of the question

[atomic monolith]

It really doesn't work that way. While the EU has laws for all partner states to govern how they implement healthcare, there's no specific one that grants you those rights in every state

[normal kiln]

ahhh i see

[atomic monolith]

I'm not an expert in these things, but this is what I've gathered from personal experience

[normal kiln]

imma ask my husband 2 sec XD

ah he says the same thing

"its possible that they pay... but its rare "

"they pay for emergencies if i remember" thats his answers

his mother would have the answer but i will not call her at this time of the day lol

at 2 am she will scream at me

[atomic monolith]

Yep, those are governed by law afaik

[normal kiln]

yeah like giving birth in another EU country than where you live in the EU

those are free

[atomic monolith]

Actually I'm not too sure if it's completely free, but you'd likely have to pay a very small amount

[normal kiln]

my husband is french born in italy , i remember his mother telling me the story lol

the nightmare was to go back in france with the kid lol

[atomic monolith]

Tbh I think the world should learn from France's Sécurité sociale. I genuinely don't think any other government does it better

[normal kiln]

well every healthcare program has its advantages

some are better than others tho

[atomic monolith]

True

[normal kiln]

Canada has a high quality of care, especially in primary care for chronic diseases, but suffers from low resource availability (fewest doctors and specialists per capita in some comparisons).

our problem is that we have no one that want to do the job

but once we are in the system... we are IN

that ... followed that hospital that literally wants to fall apart...

they did a brand new section of the hospital... BRAND NEW ! ... it already has water leak

where i am

[atomic monolith]

Literally how 😭

[normal kiln]

poor construction

[atomic monolith]

My god how did it only take a week

I thought Canada was better than that

[normal kiln]

yeah less than 1 week after new baby hospital floor , water leak

[normal kiln]

oh theres worst , way worst

https://montreal.citynews.ca/2025/04/03/quebec-reconstruction-maisonneuve-rosemont-hospital/

[atomic monolith]

Hard to believe tbh

[normal kiln]

check the link

[atomic monolith]

Every time I've visited Canada it looks perfect

[atomic monolith]

I'm reading it right now

[thorn pewter]

for 3 of my wisdom teeth it was 1,300 USD

[normal kiln]

i beleive you

[atomic monolith]

@normal kiln What the hell?? How tf could it be this bad

[normal kiln]

they also had ant invasion

[atomic monolith]

And it's in Quebec. I know people make jokes that Quebec sucks but this is horrific

[normal kiln]

if you can understand french
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33GWdOJoKRE

[atomic monolith]

What the actual fuck.

[normal kiln]

..... i didnt expect that thumbnail...

[atomic monolith]

If this happened in Italy we would start a revolution

In France this would've been the reason the government got overthrown

[normal kiln]

sadly thats not the only hospital , but thats one of the worst

i always said that healthcare sucks in quebec

quebecers prefer dying than go to the hospital most of the time ... theres a reason xD

[atomic monolith]

If Quebec has any rivers y'all should definitely threaten to shit on them

Take inspiration from the French

[normal kiln]

lol

the thing as well is Canada doenst finance quebec for healthcare

or at least ... not that much

[atomic monolith]

What

[normal kiln]

Quebec has their own healthcare and work independently

[atomic monolith]

I swear I'm being the biggest stereotype right now, but as an European this is giving me chills

[normal kiln]

Canada's healthcare is not in quebec except for teeth

we have our own shitty thing

[atomic monolith]

Insane lol

[normal kiln]

so independent that if im in Ontario , i will pay for hospital bill

been there done that moment

and im in the same country...

i dont even think you can ask for reimbursement

ah , you can

these arent paid back tho

well...

they pay a part...

[atomic monolith]

I think this is a very good example of how not to structure your government

And how to make people hate you, I guess

[vestal perch]

To be fair, I have yet to see an example of how one should structure government~

[normal kiln]

public QA and choosing laws via twitch streaming 😂

let people choose

via a poll , on twitch xD

ive never seen that , im sure it would be fire

on all senses

from 0 to chaotic instantly

prime minister playing fortnite and choosing laws at the same time with his streaming community , going chaotic at "yesss" speed lol

[ashen crag]

north korea

havent heard any complaints from their citizens

[worthy pulsar]

i mean they have had pretty decent foreign policy at least

provided military support to anti-apartheid fighters and they supported the black panther party

although their stance on south korea.. leaves a lot to be desired

[long hawk]

Bonjour

[zenith thunder]

With the least amount of power possible

[long girder]

is this supposed to be libertarian or anarchist

[amber spindle]

lol how was this even still on yarn to begin with

[split linden]

?

what? it's not like yarn is deprecated or something... it works

[zenith thunder]

I think generally the idea of minimal government authority is libertarian in nature but I'm not really too sure

[amber spindle]

like in terms of everything else (like monorepo) is on pnpm, so i would have thought the context switching may have gotten annoying

i guess its not as active, so the DX and speed isnt as noticeable

[cunning void]

You'd be surprised that it was first on npm before yarn

[amber spindle]

woah

amazing

[echo tapir]

personally im a yarn enjoyer

[elder eagle]

personally I don't care what pm is used

[amber spindle]

i am a git submodule enjoyer

[cunning void]

Personally I'm copy pasting node_modules kind of guy

[amber spindle]

respectable

i think hand writing them off based of a youtube tutorial is fun too

[warm saffron]

I write every package that I need from scratch

[harsh sedge]

i just ask claude to write the node modules

[amber spindle]

after all writing is-odd is pretty simple

we have claude-prompts.json where it saves the prompts

[amber spindle]

should i... the code is all in v14 branch already and the builders are already released... or i could just make a patch but thats boring

[tulip crag]

do what you want