Tac-Com: Comms

[open oxide]

Note for Shack:
Fighters Spades, Frebird, and Monarch had evasive orders.
(All good if that was proccessed correctly)

[sour quartz]

Those 3 were also landing, not sure if that effects the hits/targetability

[eternal glade]

Also the port MBC on corvus has no shot indicator, since both of the MBCs on Corvus have 180 it should have been able to at least shoot a fighter

[bold copper]

It doesnt sadly.

As I plot the movement against the planned enemy movement and the intercept point is the fight location.

[worn pond]

Can VTOLs shoot the gunships?

[eternal glade]

Also did none of our scans provide info?

[modern agate]

Bumping this again, as it's rather important

[worn pond]

Since they were big enough to be targeted by Artillery...

[bold copper]

BC Weapons

Launchers like what we have seen. Expect either LRM's or boarding Bots.

[bold copper]

Negative. They operate on VTOL Rules. They can't fire at you or you them unless they land.

[blazing obsidian]

I have a question as well after this one

[worn pond]

We didn't see the rolls. What sort of armor is the walker fielding?

[stark marten]

Flying Shovels at Cross Roads

• Engineer 'Hoplite' is missing from 3820
• HAT 'Party' wanted to stay in the air
• I am not sure but are Infantry 'PAT-1' and Medic 'Bonesaw' dug in (3821)?

[eternal glade]

Last question, there is no fire indicator for the Exodia MBC (which has 180) or AC. Did neither of them get shots off at the fighters?

[bold copper]

please mark them as dug in if they are staying for next tac-map.

I missed that bit of text.

though it doesnt effect the combat map at the moment. So let them know they are as they say.

and operate as normal.

[modern agate]

I really don't want to be annoying but this is quite important for a player's life, lol

[bold copper]

please chill for a sec

im researching other questions

[modern agate]

My bad, I just have no way of knowing if you've seen or not. Sorry.

[stark marten]

Will do. I thought you wanted the the sandbags as a structure so I added it to the notes

[bold copper]

Yep your right.

Missed that one.

The fighter closest north is noted as now being wounded.

Added to my notes for next round.

[sour quartz]

Shack, the BC was both scanned and comm intercepted, shouldn't it have a flight path for the next turn we know, or is it stationary?

[bold copper]

Its holding postion. Sorry ment to add a mid round for that one.

[sour quartz]

Ok I'll pass it on

[bold copper]

Thanks

[tropic jetty]

On the dwarf fort map grid 2917. You have e Cute light mech firing. But cute does not have a gun. Additionally cute and gears engineer were building a trenchlime between the building and tree line, that is missing.

[bold copper]

I dont see any indication they got out before combat- So yes that unit would be lost.

[modern agate]

I'll let them know

[bold copper]

Check the order and see if they got out earlier than the location of being shot down.

[modern agate]

I'll also check

[bold copper]

But I doubt it based on the Tac-Com map.

[bold copper]

I missed a full trench? Hmm woops

[tropic jetty]

Yeah runs diagonal from the building to the tree line.

[modern agate]

This was the order so doesn't look like it. "Stand by for combat drop" is a bit vague but sadly I don't think we can exactly ask for clarification

[stark marten]

On that topic is the structure at 3920 (Cross Roads) the PreFab bunker or a trench?

[bold copper]

That is not an order that says they are getting out

So the unit is sadly lost to the invasion

[tropic jetty]

And please take off any damage I would have done as a mech with cute. I gave up my gun for hands

[bold copper]

Oh your running punchy hands 😄

[tropic jetty]

Thanks so much love ya and everything else. Tons of fun

We cast fist yeah

[modern agate]

Damn. I'll let them know. I suspect this was a bit of a miscommuncation, but oh well

[tropic jetty]

Alright I'm off to family time. Bye qll

[bold copper]

This is why we have super specific orders that say what action your doing. Like unloading from a vehicle.

Its a bummer but we're all going to loose a unit eventually.

[long briar]

212th map on Crossroads is missing HVTOL Hoover in 3720, VTOL Cleaver in 3820, and fighters Donner and Arrows in 3921. Should I assume them in place?

[blazing obsidian]

To relay a question from my engineer, he wanted to check on and do maintenance with the grav lift since we had an indication it was unstable, any result of that I should pass along or no dice?

[worn pond]

Could we tell how thick the armor on the Striders are?

[bold copper]

and thats the one I missed. Actually pulled out the trench icon as well. Must have gotten distracted.

[sour quartz]

Shack, can AA missiles be fired at an orbital, and what effect would evasive have on the roll if the fighters attack from the rear?

[bold copper]

Hmm

[stark marten]

I think it is missing then too at Cross Roads 3920

[bold copper]

Same effect as normal. -2 against the attack. But you gain the extra missile range.

[stark marten]

Was a bit covered with all the units

[bold copper]

and yes you can yeet 1 at an orbital.

[sour quartz]

Yah, the serving fighter flight was thinking of yeeting their 3

[bold copper]

Yeah remind them of the extra range the thing has.

[blazing obsidian]

Bumping this since it got a bit buried

[fickle elk]

Could we get a clean Crossroads map?

[calm cobalt]

Hill Mine map:
missing VTOL STARRMB at 2920
Missing trench at 2917 (I think you fixed this one already)
Missing trench at 3018
Missing Dracan (LM), TT II (LM), BluWolf (Engineer), Pupil (Engineer), and a sandbag line (facing 3117) on 3016
missing Snek (medic) in 2818

Unless being fired on prevented it, Howitz in 2915 should’ve fired on 3316

the HAT in 3018 should’ve fired be P/F

[fickle elk]

For the battlegroups moving from L-H to Crossroads: what tiles do we spawn in?

[abstract vector]

the ones just~~ below~~ past the row within the "bars" on the sides of the transfer area.

[eternal glade]

Real quick, Do HMGs on Orbitals always dump their full magazine or is it different to man them against fighters?

[dire notch]

#campaign-briefing-room message You can take this one

[dire notch]

NW corner, just like iron hammer !

Place your formation in NW corner then work with knowing you have -1 speed

[open oxide]

PD is an action and manning it like every other gun is a different action.
See how none of the guns have a man primary aciton in the sheet

[calm cobalt]

For figuring out where you come in, just look at where the line attaches to the icon on h to e strategic map

[dire notch]

@ Shack

2 things for Iron Hammer map:

1. Ajax is an ODT and is 5 FS :D
2. R-Flag as you asked, had given intentions to fire on the factory walker in the midround here #1382781756989767692 message. I don't see a gun thingy on him, did he not fire ? :(

Edit bonus: R-Flag has been dug in by HFLS, and R-Flag asks to know if they have fired or not to know about their supply situation.

[modern agate]

@ Shack

Things for Rabbit

I believe just Mover is missing from Hex 4021 (as seen here)

[smoky chasm]

bump

[dire notch]

Also just noticed poor Medtac1 is missing here, but low priority, I will assume he has always been there as per usual. Still putting it here.

[calm cobalt]

Adding onto this the HAT in 3018 should’ve fired be P/F

[tropic jetty]

I think you already fixed jt because j see a green tt line jn the right. But light mechs turtle 2 and dracon should be jn that forest as well.

[sinful nebula]

probably my fault for the lack of notes on that map tbh 😅 the next one i have plans for, and should be less work now the first real round has happened

[fickle elk]

So how exaclty will the deployment work once we get to Crossroads? Because between Phalanx and Redwall, there are a lot of units arriving next turn.

[dire notch]

...redwall is also coming from NW corner ?

wait, redwall is coming this turn too ????

scrambles to run to redwall comms

[sour quartz]

Soo shack, Victorum has a debate, if we spend 1 LS to boost movement this round, and PV, Exodia, and Corvus push up and flank the 3 tiles infront, and to each side of the Bot BC, can we board it from all 3 sides, or can only the port and starboard sides board?

[open oxide]

Rules specify

Orbital Forced Docking - Hostile ship must not have moved this round or have its engines disabled from the start of the round. Orbital must come along its port or starboard side to dock.

[safe monolith]

Reminder to let your BG/TF members know that the Logi Hub is available to make communication between groups more clear and transparent on who needs support and where 😊

[bold copper]

They did fire - its in my notes. Hostile is -1 from current health.

will correct next round

[valid latch]

Hey Shack, how much can Pathfinder and Ultra get done in a single round now that we're out of combat?

We have 4 engineers between us, and about 48 small supplies over all. We're discussing how much supplies to allocate for building up defenses.

If we're planning to set up multiple mine fields, barbed wires, beanbags, and repairing any of the defense droids in preparation for combat. As well as getting the Listening Post online and running.

Can that all be done in a single Round, or do we have limits?

Example: ENG "Rapscal" is our only mine laying engineer, and we have enough supplies to put down several. Does he only have time to put down 1 mine field per round?

[vagrant sentinel]

Might be worth keeping the defense action in mind. I know DF brought this up before the campaign even began. You can basically store rounds to use when enemies enter the tac map

[valid latch]

What do you mean?

[vagrant sentinel]

I would have to really dig this up. Give me a sec to see if I can find the receipts

[valid latch]

You mean this?

[vagrant sentinel]

Actually wasn’t too hard to find

Yep I’m talking about that. Idk it popped in my head after I read your message

[open oxide]

You’re always still limited by actions.
So one engineer can only take 2 build actions a round.

[valid latch]

Okay! So how would this work if some of the units want to build of Defend rounds, but the others want to do stuff?

[vagrant sentinel]

That is 100% a Shack question😅

[valid latch]

I definitely failed in reading the Strategic Level and Orbital Gameplay guide...^^;

[open oxide]

A defend round doesn't need to be building or anything.
It could be searching or doing other things

It's just one round worth of movement and actions that you'd get on a tactical map when it starts again.

However you don't need to list what you're doing until that Tac map starts. Then the orders would be 3 rounds worth of movement and actions if the BG had taken the defend action 3 times in a row

[vagrant sentinel]

Same here but I was luckily in the discord for that convo to know about it

[valid latch]

So a Defend Strategic Action applies to the whole Battlegroup, in which we just stockpile that round for when an actual combat round starts? We cant say we're doing a Defend Action, but at the same time doing something while in that action?

[open oxide]

Yep, that's my understanding

[valid latch]

Kinda bummer, everyone wants to turn on the Listening Post's sensors right away to assist in the fighting. That'll cost us to not stockpile a Defense action, huh?

[open oxide]

Yes I assume so

But you could probably have other players set things up

[valid latch]

That kinda rolls back a question.^^;

Does the Defense Action apply to the entire battlegroup, or the individual unit?

[open oxide]

Defense Action is a Strategic action.
Only BGs can take those

[valid latch]

Alright. So while the battlegroup is taking a Defense Action, individual units within that battlegroup can't be doing stuff like investigating, setting up traps, or repairing. Right?

Sorry, it's getting a little confusing.^^; What can individual units do and not do while the entire battlegroup is taking the Defense Action?

[open oxide]

On strategic maps units can't really do much.

[vagrant sentinel]

Shack save us

[valid latch]

I'm really sorry. But I need to know these things so that my group doesn't do something stupid.^^;

[open oxide]

My understanding is:
If the BG decides to take the Defend action, then the units can't do anything that round since their actions and movement are stockpiled for later.
Otherwise things like healing and repairs and rearming can still be done. (You're still limited by actions and supplies though)
I see Shack is here with the answers

[bold copper]

All that stuff you just described can be noted by the Tac-Com and anything thats relevant to the current round from a larger perspective can be sent to me.

So stuff like "healing / repairs" Just mark it down and make sure its on the tac-map for me if we end up with one the next round.

The defense action is for simple "we all want to defend this location if we end up having a battle here" which makes it much easier.

[open oxide]

Example:

Victorum has damaged and empty fighters. We're limited by our actions and supplied status to rearm and repair them all.
But the actions can still get done as we move.

Another example: Medic Doc!!!! wants to heal a wounded infantry. On the move this is okay. Burn the supply and let Shack now so he can roll the dice.

Could you still do those if you take the defend action since you're stockpiling that round?

[bold copper]

FIne with me. Long as the Tac-Com and players dont double up on actions.

Lets just do our best to keep the actions clear and concise and it should bne all good. .

[open oxide]

So yes, but remember you did an action for when the defend round(s) kick in?

[valid latch]

So in short, I can state "BG Pathfinders is taking the Defend Action, and this list of Units are doing this, this, and this during that round."

[valid latch]

For the Defend Action, one last clarification: It states "If a battle happens in this region the players will get a number of rounds equal to the number of Defend Actions"

Are you running it where the number of rounds is spread out over the normal rounds. Or is all that scrunched up into a single round, where Unit movement and actions are multiplied to the number of Defense rounds stacked?

Example 1: Battle starts, units move as normal, enemy units don't do anything. Round 2, units move as normal, enemies don't do anything. Repeat until all defense rounds are used up.

Example 2: Battle starts, units move farther and do more actions based on how many defense rounds are stockpiled, then enemy moves as normal.

[open oxide]

Shack earlier said that it will be 1 round with movement and actions = to however many stockpiled rounds there are.

[valid latch]

Oh AWESOME~! +w+

[gaunt copper]

hey shack, just as a heads up, one of our mechs was missing from the tac map you put out in the briefing, punchy-1, ive put a note on the map about this, along with running with the joke of a "stealth mech"

[dire notch]

Thanks !

[smoky chasm]

TripleS has a HMG that we didnt see fire and dwarf fortress has an artillery gun that didnt fire

[bold copper]

Sneaky mech

[raven carbon]

Question for Shack, are the MULEs locked to the BG that used them, as per the "No Split the BG" rule, or can they be released and sent to another BG to use.

[Context: Ultra was wondering if they needed them to get off the listening post. Unsure if the auto transports still work for that, or possibly they just wanted to land somewhere not at a starport]

[calm cobalt]

Wanted to bump this just in case it got buried

[sinful nebula]

in relation to DFs missing units

[modern agate]

Bump

[stark marten]

Hey Shack should we add a timer how long the Airfield is supplied?
Right now it should be till turn 14 unless the numbers in the equipment sheet are different from your vision (1 LS for building and another was unloaded by Atlas. So 2x4 turns).

Another thing for Shovels a player unit (Eng 'Wrench') is missing in 3719. I told them to submit orders from the intended position and there will be a note in the next Tac map

[bold copper]

the transports are still around if they want to use them.

Or you can indeed send those transports to another destination

As they have civilian crews

[open oxide]

So with 3 speed they could reach the listening post from spearheads location.

[abstract vector]

#1382781756989767692 message
-# so if NPCs are on the table...

[calm cobalt]

We had an arty fire on 2917 on the hill mine map. No line was drawn, they want to know if the trees blocked them or if they should tick their supply count down

[raw bluff]

Hey Cap got a question from one of 212th’s fighters, does the Sierra AA missile do splash damage?

[abstract vector]

no, it's basically just an extra attack

Atlas Fighter "Silvers" used one against the Frigate over Elim.

It has longer range, but is only one-time use, and is affected by Evasion

[raw bluff]

Gotcha, thank you

[gaunt copper]

got a question regarding MBTs, can a MBT ram into a building wall and reverse, creating a breach for infantry to enter from?

[open oxide]

No

[gaunt copper]

Awwww

I wanted to ram a factory with my bulldozer

[fresh slate]

That is an IFV specific upgrade

"Battering Ram"

[gaunt copper]

I know

But i was asking if a bulldozer could do it, minus the bring infantry it

[bold copper]

If it's not in the rules, it doesn't do the thing you're asking

🤣

[modern agate]

Hey Shack, dunno if you ever saw that Mover is missing from the map, they should be as shown in 4021. Should we just make our next tacmap as if they're at 4021?

[gaunt copper]

my desire to cool aid man a tank will never die

[spring cradle]

Checking in; I'm going to be submitting the 212th's Shovels' tac-map for this turn so consider this your advanced warning.

[stark marten]

*Flying Shovels

[spring cradle]

Right. Being TCO for one group and a player in another has me confused. Sorry 'bout that.

So yes. I am going to be submitting a tac-map for the Flying Shovels this turn. While not being a player in the Shovels. Consider this your advanced warning.

[raw bluff]

It confused me too lol

[spring cradle]

Possibly a weird question, but is there a "clean" version of the crossroads map (without units on it) floating around

[dire notch]

Oh yeah, that might be usefull to hve

[modern agate]

There’s the original one that has the “?”s that’s probably as best as you’re gonna get. Let me find it.

From: #campaign-briefing-room message

[old narwhal]

Yeah, just doubled checked Shack's posts with images, ^ is the cleanest version we've had

[spring cradle]

Right.

I just had the thought of using transparency on the "current situation" base map. I'll see if I can't resize the black-and-white one for the same effect...

[dire notch]

🤔

I'm gonna see if I can cook something to remove the unknowns maybe with the newer maps

Emphasis on maybe.

Huh. Between the 2 iterations, the map below the hexagons move like 30-40 pixels to the top left.

Weird isn't it ?

[dire notch]

Abort, no I can't.

[worn pond]

Any chance of getting a clean version of the map to post orders on to?

C-Z is so full already it's hard to distinguish current from previous orders

[raw bluff]

Huzzah

[modern agate]

Cheers Shack!

[worn pond]

Thank you very much!

[karmic plinth]

Thank you

[spring cradle]

...Is it just me or is the hex alignment off in Crossroads?

Because if I'm matching it up with the most recent #campaign-briefing-room shot, the hex alignment is very off.

Granted, still a blank map, and that's very useful for movement and stuff

But I'm not sure it'll be easy to work with this. (Sorry Shack.)

...Though IG it shouldn't be too hard either. I'll stop whining and make do.

[stark marten]

Huh interesting

[mental sundial]

Its possible the Hex Layer wasn't position locked and Cap just accidentally clicked it and moved it without noticing

I did that all the time in New Braven until I finally locked it

[bold copper]

Hes is wrong?

Damn..

it would seem those clean version have a messed up hex grid...

[karmic plinth]

Damn

[stark marten]

I think I have the hex grid somehow in my folders and we have a map of Cross Roads without hex grid. Needs a little bit more work but should be doable

[stark marten]

Not perfect but very closely aligned @spring cradle

[spring cradle]

Gotcha. I'll use that if I need it.

[frank frigate]

Shack, confirming for Ultras Engineers: repairing the Listening Posts Reactors costs a sm. supply?

[dire notch]

Heh, I was right ! :D

[bold copper]

TAC-COMS: Hold off on making maps for this round. Announcement coming soon.

[sinful nebula]

aaah, life, how could it do this to us 😅

[gaunt copper]

Hope your doing ok shack

[dire notch]

I honnestly thought this was just "oh sorry, crossroads grid is not perfect, hold on on maps guys"

Very surprised to see this, hopefully everything goes well, jeez.

[gaunt copper]

Yeah same, hopefuly whatever has happened is resolved for ya cap

[karmic plinth]

My bad

I hope we didn't overwhelm the process of making the game fun. This may have been too many players

[woven merlin]

cries

... After-action debrief time, then.

Think the ruleset was way too overstressed with this many players - managing that many maps is way too much.
Probably would need to have a GM for each AO.

I'd also recommend that #1364167095822057533 be split into "BG/TF Comms" and "AO Comms", coordination was kinda a nightmare to figure out.

[vagrant sentinel]

Let's maybe wait a bit before we start trying to give feedback😅

[sinful nebula]

Its been alot of fun, SO MUCH awesome RP, cant wait to deploy again 😄

[glass bluff]

Thank you Shack for this brief campaign. It was fun. 😄

[calm fable]

Was great helping out with all the pre landing and landing stuff for Venator. I loved this campaign, it was amazing in just the way only meta can be, hope you have a great summer as well cap!

[karmic plinth]

I will say everyone I invited to the game had a really good time

So thank you for this tabletop masterpiece

[woven merlin]

TCOs,

If you are willing, please take a look at this message. #1382045293591134218 message

(Shack, don't worry about this for now, I'll need to clean it up anyways).

[wintry radish]

We shall return

https://tenor.com/view/theoden-we-will-return-this-is-not-a-defeat-gamling-theoden-king-gif-22723646

[woeful forge]

lets hope