Tac-Com: Comms

[bold copper]

French you already asked this question and I said no. I'm not doing switching between battlegroups

This caused issues last time. Literally hours for me. I'm not doing it again.

[dire notch]

Okay, thanks.

Just making it clear because his argument seemed fine to me, but I'm okay with it.

[bold copper]

[dire notch]

Oh also, while you're here and I've got this on hand

Tadaaaaa~

[gaunt copper]

That’s a butchered Cromwell

[dire notch]

Iron Hammer patch/logo !

While J.Jordan is away and I'm not gonna spam him for years, we'll use this with our motto written on it on top !
It's been voted on with multiple polls and it means "Every problem is a nail"

[gaunt copper]

wait a minute, I think that’s a challenger

[dire notch]

Is it temporary ? Depends on when J.Jordan gets back or not lol. But for now it's here.

[gaunt copper]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1343545952023085096/1388189674232610816/Challenger_WW2.png?ex=686602a1&is=6864b121&hm=7b3d546c437a5917a8ea200d515692287cb5146f8f007fb5c38df3f9c204bbc2&

Just using the Lego challenger I made (the hull was designed by someone else, turret was me) as a reference and YEP

That’s a WW2 challenger in your emblem

[dire notch]

noice

[gaunt copper]

Your smashing a WW2 tank in your emblem!

[bold copper]

Works for me!

[azure mortar]

How close does an Engineer need to be to build something?
Noxima (circled in yellow) would like to Build Sandbags in front of Angel (circled in green) without moving.
They're 0.5 Range apart. That seems a bit too far to me

Also, is the massive circle around the starport (the blue circle) flat enough for VTOLs to land?

[stark marten]

Shack mentioned sth about it in here

[old narwhal]

Tired brain/just waking up, but medics are supposed to be base/base contact for healing, so I'm fairly certain the answer is that engineers would need to be pretty close to anything they want to build

[azure mortar]

Yeah, I thought as much

[azure mortar]

I know he mentioned it not be a structure you can garrison or anything (that is not giving +1 Armor and unflankable) Just wondering if it's flat enough for VTOLs

[old narwhal]

Pretty sure it'd be fine, it's not yellow terrain

[azure mortar]

Ah. Right, I'm thinking of orbitals with landing legs need large flat areas

[fickle elk]

Just checking in on what everyone's planning this turn.

Redwall is going straight for Elim. If the orbitals are clear, we'll deploy this turn. If not, next.

[abstract vector]

I'm not sure you have enough speed to land, but confidence is high we'll kill the Vulture

Gate -> Nav-1 -> Elim orbit. 1 speed remaining, 1.5 required to land.

Unless you can grease your engine to get 4 speed?

[vagrant sentinel]

Can confirm Phalanx is going to end up in Elim high orbit. Plans to land next turn and we are currently holding a vote for what to do after that

Clearing the east side of the city is winning right now

[stark marten]

Shovels and 212 go to the Rock Station

[modern agate]

As do Rabbit and Spearhead

[abstract vector]

How's the mass BG logistics doc looking these days? Is there a tab there for intended destinations?

[long briar]

"current location" was the only bit I remember seeing

[woven merlin]

Me, trying to sort out this SNAFU by founding an entire new TF just for coordination

TOTALLY FINE- (It is not-)

[abstract vector]

It's been a brutal 24 hours yea. Lots of sudden plan changes, staying up late mapping. It's like I'm back in grad-school lol

[dire notch]

It's been really hard to keep up

I used to be able to do stuff at the same time, come back, read a bit, all good

But now because we have to coordinate with atlas for landing and storm for ground troops & part of landing too, aswell as ourselves with our vtols, it became a mess so quickly 😅

But we'll manage, this is just turn """"1"""""

[woven merlin]

(And REDWALL-)

[dire notch]

Oh don't add them in yet ! 🤣

[vagrant sentinel]

Only a small chance for another BG to land this turn given the enemy orbital. It will be a mess on turn 5 though on the ground

[abstract vector]

Low priority request:
We had a FTR be MIA since day 1. Never posted, finally blocked the server we found out today, so he's not coming back.

We'd love to offer control of his fighter to a slain player (with no Req payment to make things simple). Egg would be my first pick, with the noblest of sacrifices.

Totally understand if this is too complicated or sets a bad precedent.

[vagrant sentinel]

Oh lord everything changes again😂

[stark marten]

Won't happen. Every player has control over their unit and if that player moved on even while in a campaign then the unit is still theirs

[abstract vector]

It's what I expected, didn't want anyone to get hopes up. Thanks

[stark marten]

Sure 👍

[open oxide]

The only case close to this, was running NPC units.
DttS had 1 NPC unit that the GM wanted orders for. When a player died the player that was putting orders in handed it over to the dead player.

But that wasn't another unit being given to the that player.

[glass bluff]

Is any BG going for the optional target?

[vagrant sentinel]

Spearhead was already planning on landing there with the mining transports

[glass bluff]

Copy

[gaunt copper]

Perhaps we could deploy venator via the mine and have us flank around rapidly

Since we aren’t exactly the fastest

[woven merlin]

I would recommend Spearhead or Rabbit, since they are airmobile and are currently combat capable.

Reminder that the closest reinforcements by land routes is 7 strategic points away.
(If you get pinned down, don't expect reinforcements).

[open oxide]

Venator could land there this turn. Spear and rabbit could join them using the lumarian transports afterwards.
The sooner we know how many supplies the better.

[gaunt copper]

True

[blazing obsidian]

For clarification, Spearhead is not currently vectored to the mine, I can ask again what our deployment plans are but we were sort of caught halfway through them

[worn pond]

Storm can fly over once we secure Elim

[long briar]

212th will definitely be keeping an eye on the situation and have our comms open in case we're needed

[eternal glade]

For the knowledge of any BGs wanting to go to Cell-dar, Victorum is headed to W1 to clear any hostiles so you should be relatively safe going that direction

[dire notch]

I know we're still in the last phase of orders, but @abstract vector @hazy spruce we'll probably need to coordinate one way or another for our tac-maps... 😅

[abstract vector]

ofc

[dire notch]

Thing is, can you give a map that has Iron Hammer units in it ?

Because I feel it might be better off for you to handle all the units that have Atlas transporting them

[gaunt copper]

Aight, venator is intending to use the grav elevator for insertion

were flanking 17 tanks behind the enemy

[vagrant sentinel]

If it makes it easier for Shack and it’s understandable then I can’t see why not

[gaunt copper]

INCLUDING A SHBT

We’re doing a creed here!, we’re flanking with a bane blade!

[abstract vector]

can you do the spaceport at least?
-# I'm not TacComming for BG12

[dire notch]

Yes yes, of course of course, obviously omg

I'm not gonna tell you to do everything

But from what I understand we got the atlas HAT paradropping iron hammer units

Then that's it I think ?

I haven't read through all of it ngl

[abstract vector]

yea I can do that

[dire notch]

The only big thing I am wondering is to get it clear for cap ?

Like, Iron Hammer units mapped on atlas tac-map but not on iron hammer map ?

[abstract vector]

Put in somewhere in your TacCom order the list of units being paradropped by Atlas, and I'll change the color of their name.

[dire notch]

Or maybe you do it then give me a snapshot or whatever and I just paste it in to my map ? 🤔

[abstract vector]

I'll do all of 3218 (like 10 units crammed together)

[eternal glade]

Hey shack, letting you know that there was an active bomber player that missed BG/TF sign ups that has joined Victorum.

[dire notch]

@abstract vector Right, just woke up, I'm also gonna need the position of Atlas' picket line before it lands, so I can plot the movement of the vtols & hvtols that are getting out and going through high orbit then low orbit passing through the ennemy orbital & fighters 👀

[dire notch]

I like having my text readable, so I flipped the text on the facing for when it's facing south, if anyone wants them too.

This is just me nitpicking and liking details, if anyone else is like me, there they are

[dire notch]

Also, I got that issue.

I have no idea of our troops are getting out of the picket line and then into the big metal ball that redirects to the landing pad, or just all of us getting out of the picket line on the landing pad it's landed at

Half of our orders assume 1, the other half assumes 2, and I didn't think hard of the question before I've had to map out the problem...

[dire notch]

Dresden Valareo
[ARM]
— 15:00
You are coming out of the dome
That is basically, the "spawn" point

Solved by dresden in #meta-comm

[calm fable]

What should we use to indicate a tank with the AA turret replacement? Currently there's no art for it

[stark marten]

There is some now

#1382781756989767692 message

[calm fable]

thanks!

[dire notch]

Thoughts ? 👀

[modern agate]

I’m not sure the condition really does anything

In the past Shack has said conditions are too difficult to deal with, so everything will happen as written no matter what. I’m not sure if he’s changed his position on that recently though

[dire notch]

Well, thing is, picket line can only land if the ennemy orbital dies or not

this is not a condition from us, this is a condition from the game and depends on the ennemy's survival, it is not a self imposed condition

which is why this is separated.

[open oxide]

This is an intentions map. Removing the IF would still make it work.

[dire notch]

This is what Ixen asked in here some time ago to shack about the map becoming tactical if there's no ennemy and being to deploy the same turn :P

[modern agate]

So for y’all to land it’s mechanically impossible if it can’t land? Got it

[dire notch]

I'm just making this map separate from thoses who will land for sure with vtol/hvtols

so less headaches.

[open oxide]

Also French I don't think you're allowed to leave supplies on the ground.
It makes more work for Shack

[dire notch]

Yup ! ^^

[dire notch]

They're given to 3 infs who can't transport them, but if it's illegal, ehm, well, we'll see

[open oxide]

?

[dire notch]

it's their logi order 😅

[open oxide]

Maybe I'm wrong but reloading someone only takes 1 supply. (- Arty and Engis)

And then other units can't hold supply

[dire notch]

You're not, I honnestly did not check or bother with the logi order due to, 4 hours deadline, many things to figure out and search for, etc

[open oxide]

You need to do that

[dire notch]

No I meant, I checked to see if it was valid, but didn't really checked for the small supply and assumed it was okay

Looks, lots of things I assumed were okay until I was told "actually, no" like, today 😅

Air + orbital + regular deployment + coordination + 24hrs time frame will do that to you

[vagrant sentinel]

Just checking in on something. Are units allowed to start inside IFV’s and LV’s while in the transports? Might be a stupid question but I want to clarify since it changes a lot of strategy

[open oxide]

It depends on how you unload them

[modern agate]

Depends what you’re asking. I’m not sure if Shack has commented on how the unloading works at all. The only thing I know that isn’t explicitly allowed is an infantry inside of a logi truck inside of a HAT for example.

[blazing obsidian]

Shack mentioned that upon landing, every unit will be spit out of the transport. I don't see any reason why you couldn't mount up immediately, but you'd have to pay the loading cost

[vagrant sentinel]

Yeah it’s if we have to pay the cost to load into those IFV’s and LV’s or if we can start in them

[open oxide]

Assume you need to until you get told you don't by Shack

[vagrant sentinel]

Dang😝

I knew it was too good to be true

[dire notch]

So, then, no supplies on the ground ?

[blazing obsidian]

Artillery can stockpile them, but yeah

[open oxide]

I'm pretty sure that is a rule.

The rule I remember is it needs to be in a unit or storage building.

[modern agate]

To prevent the video game thing of showing up, dropping your inventory, going back, grabbing more, repeat

[dire notch]

Okay, alright, fair

What would be the landed icon ?

[dire notch]

A circle with an arrow pointing in them like I did in purple here ?

[open oxide]

Clear enough

[dire notch]

Alright !

[valid latch]

Hey Shack, if you're around, Us Pathfinders are wondering how much of the asteroid base is vehicle accessible? And can we deploy our VTOLs to fly around the asteroid?

[woven merlin]

VTOLs operate fine in space (as seen by STORM), I'd assume that's a tentative yes.

[valid latch]

Absolutely, I just wanted to make sure there's a way to launch them from the docking arm we're currently ported at. We can probably haul the VTOLs to the open floor and let them fly out the open top if need be. But I want to make sure.

[open oxide]

@fickle elk There is an AA Tank Icon Now

[modern agate]

Beat me to it cobalt

Was quite literally scrolling the search for the image as you sent it

[dire notch]

Thoughts on this ?

I am aware it is incomplete as this does not show high orbit trajectory, Vivian is working on it right now, just gathering thoughts.

Also gonna need to add the Atlas HAT dropping our troops, i cut it too close with the map, oops.

[blazing obsidian]

You noted that the infantry you're healing are from Atlas, but those are Stormblessed's units

[dire notch]

FUCK

🤣

Sorry, I'm used to working with Atlas since C3, I blame @tropic jetty for this lol

good for calling me out on it

thanks

[vagrant sentinel]

How much do we have to keep in mind unit overlap between groups? Things are going to get pretty crowded around the spaceport this turn and turn 5

[dire notch]

As I've learned from C3's citadel

It is a problem for shack. 🤣

[dire notch]

fixed!

[vagrant sentinel]

If I don’t have to worry about it when making my map then it’s all good😝

[dire notch]

I mean, making sure there's no unit overlap is cool for shack but

As C3's proven, give enough battlegroups a limited space with an important objective and they'll find a way to all rush inside at the same time and give you a proper headache 🤣

Coordinating with 2-3 BG/TFs for deployment is already hard, imagine coordinating with 5-10 of them now for next turn

...in less then 24hrs

[vagrant sentinel]

Yeah it’s going to be a nightmare no matter who does it. Hopefully we can see storm or Redwall move outward for turn5 to allow for some more space

[abstract vector]

Location: Strategic Map - High Orbit above Elim. No specific location.

[dire notch]

I gathered the information in atlas chat thanks to chinderella and got the map for the picket line

Forwarded it to vivian who's working on the high orbit map rn

Also tell me as soon as you got the HAT Hill Iron Hammer & Atlas paradrop extravanganza mapped and I'll copy it and add it to mine aswell

...think it's best if it's on both of our maps then just on yours and then shack comes and check mine and goes "okay where the fuck are the iron hammer units atlas advertized me" lol

[abstract vector]

Bless. Godspeed Hammers!

I have 4 hours til Im at work, so I can help if you need it. The locations of the paradroppers and the ODTs look good to you?

[abstract vector]

It's on the pic I posted. [High res is best]

[dire notch]

Where ? 😅

So many messages everywhere

[woven merlin]

Looks correct for your VTOLs/HVTOLs. Landed icons might want to be closer and smaller, though. Just under the callsigns?

[woven merlin]

Ignore Omega-Zulu being understaffed and not having nearly enough time to do so.

[dire notch]

Hm, it is true they are pretty big.

[stark marten]

Hey Shack just to inform you one of Shovels HATs will be missing for a 1-3 turns due being without signal. Players loaded up will transfer next round to a 212 HAT

[eternal glade]

Mid rounds starting early freaked me out ngl

[woven merlin]

Well, the ones Shack is resolving are already locked in, so...

[eternal glade]

so I just posted our summary write up to be safe

[eternal glade]

It made me think the time had changed and I don't he the map stuff, the other taccom does

[vagrant sentinel]

Yeah it’s just the obvious ones that he can easily start resolving

[eternal glade]

Yeah, I figured that out after posting the write up

[vagrant sentinel]

I get it though. It would make me panic a little too😆

[dire notch]

Anymore thoughts here aswell ?

[woven merlin]

Looks correct.

[dire notch]

neat.

[bold copper]

Ceal make sure you post what group your posting for! 😄

Just so I have it in the post for future reference.

[woven merlin]

Capt, I deeply apologize in advance for the amount of work you will need to do to figure out where everyone goes next round-

[dire notch]

Someone watch over his neck when that happens !

[blazing obsidian]

I'll get the cervical collar...

[dire notch]

I'll be posting this map in an hour or so, just awaiting last inputs if need be.

[bold copper]

does Victorum have a map?

[abstract vector]

They left this disclaimer: [Since Midrounds are starting early I want the write up here to be safe, Kael will post map if needed]

[modern agate]

@sour quartz ^

[bold copper]

Mixed up what they we're doing. All good now.

[sour quartz]

yah, since you said their was no tac map for this turn for us, Cael just posted the truncated list of who's doing what. If you need a map, or a formation, I can post one when I get off work and home in a couple of hours

[bold copper]

Yep. Your good.

I got your force move updated

[abstract vector]

Added our Fighter formation just after 212's, slightly out of order now, would you like me to resubmit?

[bold copper]

Can I get a confimration. Out of the Victorum Bombers. They had 6 total with 2 having torpedo's?

Meaning 4 remain armed in the formation.

[open oxide]

Yes

[tropic jetty]

aww, I love you too! (^.^) good luck this round

[eternal glade]

My bad shack, I was panicked and in a rush

[sinful nebula]

hey shack,
we have an engineer in DF, @floral minnow he was relatively active in our chat while sign ups were happening and has popped back up in chat now things are happening again, but he seems to have not officially activated his unit after making it in SAM.
Since we haven't actually deployed yet he was wondering if his unit could be activated still?

Cheese said he could activate a unit during a campaign easily enough, but it would need an okay from you.
a few of us have all said to him that chances are its a no go with how the rules have been in the past, but I felt like I should check here just in case

[bold copper]

Fine with me. Lets hopefully not make a habit of it 😄

[sinful nebula]

legend, ill let him know in DF chat 😄

[calm fable]

Which Icon is the autocannon turret for the LVs?

this is the closest there is but it's not actually called autocannon

would it be this one that is called alt? I assumed it was HMG but as there isn't an upgrade for that maybe this is an autocannon?

[sinful nebula]

I believe the top one is the AT recoiless
And the bottom one is the alt version, which is the AC upgrade for me,
It looks like some fairly subtantial cannons on top there

[calm fable]

alrighty i'll go with that

[calm fable]

Venator have a formation map, and we have all already voted and agreed we'd be moving straight to Ziyal next turn
Instead of pinging everyone in our comms ping and asking them to post orders saying they are in formation if they agree with exactly where they are, I was thinking I could post the formation in our orders thread and ask people to react to it with say a if they are fine with their placement, and just ping me in our comms if they aren't so i can change it to what they want
Everyone in our BG i've asked thinks it's a fine idea, but that it's potentially against the rules as people aren't explictly posting orders?
So I just wanted to ask here whether or not it would be fine from Shack or anyone who knows

[stark marten]

That sounds like you would need to repost a few times. Maybe do a poll with the formation below and ask one of the moderators to pin that?

Or just how you described it but in the Venator comms

[karmic plinth]

Personally I like using the base game LV and putting the mech Autocannon on top of it

[calm fable]

If people are just reacting to it and not having to post orders when it’s in the order channel it shouldn’t get buried at all

[stark marten]

Ah I misread. I guess it could work?

[dire notch]

Still think it's better to have orders written, even it's just a simple
"callsign - unit - following formation"

Allows people to add in roleplay if they wish and/or to be exhaustive, aswell as making sure everyone is transporting everyone that wish to be transported, aswell as also having a first round of "hello guys, orders, just simple one to get you used to it :D"

Otherwise not opposed to the reaction idea if it works for you guys I guess

[stark marten]

I agree French but no one is stopping them

[dire notch]

Unless shack/dresden step in, I guess.

I'm already considering dresden our 2nd GM despite him not being the 2nd GM officially yet 🤣

[calm fable]

Yeah I’m gonna wait for shack to green light it

[calm fable]

Oh I was gonna say people can still do Rp orders if they want

The whole thing just makes it 10x simpler for me/marl to track who is happy with the formation or not, and makes it easier for some people to understand what they need to do

[dire notch]

oh

true, you guys are 60 people.

forgot about that, slight, inny bitty, detail.

[azure mortar]

The problem with that is that reactions can be removed or added later. Some form of order posting would still be needed

[calm fable]

How is that a problem?

Orders can be removed/added later aswell

It’s not for collecting actual orders is my point, we all agreed we’re going to Ziyal

It’s for confirming everyone is happy with their place in formation, which is a lot simpler if it doesn’t get buried in our comm chat every 5 minutes

[gaunt copper]

We do have the spreadsheet i tried working on to log every movement per turn I can send to you when i can

[calm fable]

It’s fine electric

Electro*

[gaunt copper]

I’ll still send you it

[azure mortar]

Fair point

[mental sundial]

People need to post orders. Its how we gauge who is actually active in the game and who isn't. It is also how we get their actual consent on where their unit is going and doing

We can't just assume peoples orders or they are active

Plus it is just good practice to have them used to putting in orders at regular scheduled times and stay active

[stark marten]

Dresden do you know what Shack said in regard to players that go MIA with notice?

[mental sundial]

With notice no. I know in the past people tried to have others post orders for their unit for them, and Cap smacked that down

One of the biggest rules is you and only you can play with your unit

Only Cap can answer what else you would ask beyond that

And he may be busy today with the holiday here in the US

[calm fable]

I suppose

[stark marten]

Yeah one of our Shovels HAT players will be without signal for roughly 11 days. Not much that can be done about that.
I will just put a note in the next Taccom map so it is clear

[mental sundial]

they need to. If people are not posting orders, we can't just move and give order stances for them

Even if they say "I am leaving for X number of days. Just have me follow everyone". That can't work

One of the few requirements of Meta Campaign is you are active

[calm fable]

That seems extremely unnecessary to punish people for having real life complications

I understand that people should control their own unit but they shouldn’t have to go MIA over it if they have given explicit warning they cannot give orders

[open oxide]

Doesn’t that still work for strategic movement?

Since the BG doesn’t need orders?

[mental sundial]

We still need orders

[stark marten]

If a player is just MIA for two rounds it doesn’t mean they are considered MIA for the whole campaign

[mental sundial]

We need to know that people are staying active

[calm fable]

But what happens when the BG moves to a different map? Does the MIA player get removed from the campaign

Or do they teleport to the correct map on their return

[mental sundial]

Yeah I am not saying you miss a day or two and you are done. That is between you, them, and the Cap how to handle it

I am just saying, we can't keep their unit moving around on the table like they are active. We can't do that.
Plus we are also suppose to be tracking activity

[stark marten]

That’s a hard one. I don’t think I can answer that

[mental sundial]

That is a question for Cap. As long as you guys are not retreating off a active map, it shouldn't be a big problem worth mentioning

Maybe they can stay off map in a reserve spot, or they will follow the BG to the next area but stay off map

Its if they are gone for weeks, or they are missing more rounds then they are playing in, or just stop playing that is the main issues

All I am saying is ask Cap. Don't make it look like they are active when they are not. Cap wants all TAC-COMs tracking player activity and being open with him if there are some missing rounds

[worn pond]

Pretty sure MIA means they're gone...

[mental sundial]

The discussion was around when people are considered MIA

[valid latch]

Hey Dresden, can you pass on some GM questions to Shack from my battlegroup for me?

[mental sundial]

But also mainly that people still need to put in orders, even if all those orders are is "fly in formation"

Not really comfortable being the Q&A guy South lol
Depends on the question? Why can't it be asked here?

I try not to bug Cap all that much really

[valid latch]

Same. But my time schedule doesn't really get me in times when I can chat with him much.^^;

Anyway, simple copy/paste from the Pathfinders for the Listening Post:

1: Is there a direct route between the Dock Exit and the Sensor Tower? Or do we have to go up the ramp by the Unknown Location to the right of the Dock Exit? From the map view, it seems like the Sensor Tower is blocked from the Dock Exit by a wall / being on higher ground than the Dock Exit.,

2: Are we allowed to use VTOLs and engineers to do a hatch breach on the Reactors?

3: How much of the map is available for vehicles to traverse?

That's pretty much it. =w=

At the very least, when Shack comes around, can anybody point him to this question list? We're working on what we can do for our first turn on the map. =w=

[mental sundial]

It may not be today. He already said he wouldn't be around

Likely due to the holiday here in the USA

[valid latch]

You're telling me. Fireworks were already going off around my neighborhood the last couple of nights. XD

Anyway, I'ma sleep now. It's 7:30am here, but I'm nocternal by nature. See you all later!^^

[woven merlin]

RAW, you're using the platoon system. You should be fine, as long as everyone involved is given the chance to disagree.

(Of course, everyone still needs to post "in formation" orders, but that can just be a template.)

[gaunt copper]

just want to share this here, this is the TAC-COM information thing ive crafted for venator, your free to copy and use it for your own for your unit to fill out when they do there orders

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1YcE4kzVd3jOjs7Mpu-NgFb-l_4XRrUBgEE11xFQzeV8/edit?usp=sharing

makes it ALOT easier to do maps with all inforation being in one spot

ignore the pirate themeing

[azure mortar]

Your formation is great. Also I forgot many MBTs y'all have... 😆😅

[stark marten]

Oh cool!

[gaunt copper]

tanks

anyway

your free to use it

just copy it and dont edit the venator one lol

[stark marten]

Platoon system isn’t yet part of the rules (yes it is mentioned but not actually implemented)

[modern agate]

Oh gosh I remember the original platoon system dang

[woven merlin]

dang, it hasn't been errataed in the oracle yet?

Huh. (STORM has kind of been using an ad-hod version of it for the last few rounds).

[stark marten]

You mean the 4 squads and one commander system just after V1?

[modern agate]

Yeah that

[stark marten]

God that was fun to make units in

[mental sundial]

even if we did have the platoon system, people still need to put in orders

[abstract vector]

Yea, the order would be "In platoon directed by: [Callsign]" Or "In formation with [Squad Name]"

Atlas FTRs and Orbitals have been in Formations since the start

What about entering formation-style orders early?

[mental sundial]

Nothing wrong with entering "In Formation" in your movement. I have done that this round.
As long as the TAC-COM has enough so they know where you want to be in that formation

The TAC-COM getting clear orders is the most important part

[calm fable]

Same here for Venator, it's what everyone is doing

[dire notch]

You guys have formations ?

[mental sundial]

Just that groups are flying or moving together. Nothing special

[dire notch]

Ah, hold on, I think I need an image for this

You guys have formations ?

Otherwise yes thanks for explaining dresden

[mental sundial]

AutoDave does send what the shape and facings are in that formation, just in case we show up at a Strategic point and enemies are there Cap knows how to place us on the map

[dire notch]

Hm, we'll have to do that after elim city aswell then

unless we get a map of where we wanna go to

[calm fable]

yeah

so shack knows how we want to enter the map

[gaunt copper]

THE GREAT WEDGE

[karmic plinth]

Horrifying

Wow that's beautiful

It would be cool to do something like this for rabbit but it would largely be useless since we're going to have most of our units exploring the map for scouting and QRF.

I may create a convoy like this for overworld travel though

That would be nice

[dire notch]

So, this is where all the MBTs went. 🤣

[blazing obsidian]

Spotting quite a few familiar names on that front line too

[abstract vector]

Yea! What's up BigRig and Catalyst! Thanks for the rides in Scrap and Scatter ❤️

[dire notch]

Valk-1, C.O.W, PIRATE YARRRRRRRRRRRR

[calm fable]

That’s the anti vehicle one

I just went with the alt one in the end

[long briar]

Yup yup! We don’t know when we’ll find a tac map, so I’ll be including formations to my strat maps

[woven merlin]

STORM has ad-hoc flights for CAS right now, and have a travel formation, so yes.

[bold copper]

RedWall question

Did an engineer build sandbags or are you using that as a dug in indicator?

[woven merlin]

@fickle elk @old narwhal

[old narwhal]

Martel used that to indicate dug in, engineers didn't have speed to disembark, move and build anything

[bold copper]

can someone tell me what Arvin PA is actually holding for a weapon?

Resolutions to low

[mental sundial]

Looks like the regular base weapon image

All the other PAI units with vehicle weapons have a bulkier looking profile

[bold copper]

that what I was thinking

[stark marten]

They also have no additional equipment listed in the order

[old narwhal]

Arvin is standard PA

[fickle elk]

Basic weapon

Orphans is digging in

[bold copper]

This a SPG?

or the Twin Snub MG?

[old narwhal]

SPG

[fickle elk]

SPG

[gaunt copper]

SPG

[abstract vector]

FYI: @willow shore is gonna stand in for Atlas for the next 4-5 hours, I'll be away.

[fickle elk]

Point of clarification: the logi-truck's call sign is Mortar, not Mortal.

No, I have no idea why he chose that for a noncombat unit either.

[abstract vector]

-# Mortar and Pestle

[open oxide]

They’re labeled as ‘Dug in’ in the asset pack.

[bold copper]

fixed

[bold copper]

Woops

[willow shore]

Correction: the HAT is named **Eureka ** not Eurkea (#midround-events message)

[frank frigate]

Shack: confirming units deploying from transports to the Listening Post start at the end of the Dock Arm at the transport? Or Dock Exit?
In addition: Can both Pathfinders and Ultra deploy to the Fed Listening Post this turn?

[worn pond]

Hey Shack I believe you missed this heal from Pedro61 to Enni. Enni only got healed by Iron Hammer's Dice, but not our own Pedro. This was also the medic/vtol combo you missed last time (the VTOL is in the correct location, just not the medic and their heal)

Does this mean that ELIM City will not have a tactical map next turn? Or what does this mean?

[bold copper]

We have overwhelmed the threat in the capital.

Battlegroups that are staying let me know what you want to do. All others its time to pull out.

[modern agate]

Shack, while you’re here do you think we could get a blank Crossroads map? We have the one without the hexes, black and white, but if we’re allowed, one with hexes would be very nice to start planning our drop

[woven merlin]

most other BGs still need to land at the starport moment

[bold copper]

Negative. No live map till we have eyes on the cross roads.

[modern agate]

Fair enough. Well, we’ll be in high orbit above it at the end of T5, hopefully that’s enough to get us eyes on it, otherwise we can’t really land lol

[azure mortar]

@ Shack

[bold copper]

ooh I see. Pedro is MIA

Please let Enni know they healed 2 More

So 5FS currently.

[modern agate]

Passed it on boss!

[valid latch]

Hey captain. Please excuse me butting in. But my group (Pathfinders) has a few questions about the listening post we’re investigating.

Whenever you find the time of course.

List of 3 questions right here.
#1382781756989767692 message

[wintry radish]

Bc theres only 1 docking arm, does my bg have to wait for Pathfinders to clear right?

Just tbc

[calm cobalt]

Since the dwarf Bgs are on Nav-1 we need speed 2 in order to deploy at Elim? 1 speed to get there and then another .5 to land?

[calm fable]

I don’t think there’s a speed cost for landing

[calm cobalt]

Can we get confirmation on that?

[bold copper]

So the station isn't massive. Its seems to be powered down.

Vehicles can travel on the outer walls of rock, an the inner section But not down the lift. With it being such a small little base fitting 2 full battlegroups could be difficult. But maybe not impossible? basically we're hoping you can get the thing powered back online see if you can get any sensor data streaming in.

We would never have found it if it wasn't for the locals pointing us at it. Means the bots don't know its location either... That could change. So fair warning team.

[azure mortar]

TAC-Map for Elim City Turn 5? Yay or nay?

[frank frigate]

So, confirming Ultra will not be able to deploy this turn?

[bold copper]

Nay. Most likely mid rounds for story stuff and maybe some light combat.

Ultra can deploy if they wish. But work together to not step on each other.

based on how old that station is. Good chance it wont just "turn on"

[frank frigate]

good copy. will do. Thanks.

[valid latch]

Thank you very much Shack.^^

Though I just recently learned that there's a few more question to shove in here.^^; Some have already been answered, but I'll sort out the rest for you here.

---

1: Will we spawn at the Docking Arm Exit in 4117, or will we have to move there from the transport in 4116?

2: Can VTOLs deploy from the Dock Arm and operate throughout the first floor?

3: How large is the Main Lift: how many infantry can it move in a round?

4: Does the Sensor Tower count as a building that can be garrisoned for defensive cover?

5: Is there a straight path from the Dock Exit and the Sensor Tower, or do we have to go up ramps from the Main Lift area?

6: Can the reactors be breached like orbitals using VTOLs and engineers? Are there external hatches to do so?

7: Are there interior tactical maps to the Reactors or Sensor Tower?

That's about all I managed to find for questions. Sorry for the mess. My group is very particular to know how far they do things.^^;

[bold copper]

its got 1 dock. So 1 group will deploy then the next.

[calm cobalt]

Hey Shack, does it take the automated transports speed to land at the starport since we control it now? Trying to figure out if DF can land this turn or not

[bold copper]

I think your good. I dont think I had the other NPC transports use speed to land at the starport.

They just needed to get to thing.

[modern agate]

That reminds me of a question for Rabbit, does unloading from the mining transports cost speed? If so, what’s the cost?

[fresh slate]

Shack how detailed of orders do you want for Elim City peeps?

[bold copper]

standard landing rules.

As detailed as the players want to commit to actions.

[modern agate]

[calm cobalt]

But no actual map is needed for Elim, so just mark down who is transporting who as we unload?

[valid latch]

Seeing as the Listening Post is empty of hostiles. Does the "I can move anywhere on the map in 1 turn" rule still apply? And how do performing actions apply to this situation? Can a person make several actions in a single turn, or just 1 action?

[swift ivy]

Why do i have an odd feeling that station is going to turn hostile? XD

[smoky chasm]

Automated defenses online. Please present access codes.

[frank frigate]

because there are a lot of perdy yellow triangles?

[gusty lagoon]

quick question we are getting a lot. do units need to spend 0.5 movement to leave the auto transport?

[smoky chasm]

^

[gusty lagoon]

i´ll take that as a yes

[stark marten]

That statement was in regard to the lumaran transports.
Redwall should be a good example if the 0.5 cost was used

[fickle elk]

Redwall is staying in Elim. Main priorities:

1. Fortify the city, construct a redoubt around the starport especially. I'll get a map of that later.
2. Help clear any hostiles remaining in the city.
3. We have a combat medic with the CCP upgrade and a medical corps with the Field Hospital and Civilian Aid station upgrades. Any chance we could do civilian engagement with those?

[dire notch]

If we strategically move from Elim City to L-H, can we still get our medics to heal our infantries before moving ?

Or will we only be able to heal once we reach L-H ?

[bold copper]

You can take actions as normal. Moving only uses speed.

[calm cobalt]

Since we have rabbit over Hill Mine, would we be able to get a topographic map of the ground areas?

[modern agate]

I assume you mean Fluffle

[calm cobalt]

yup

its too early in the morning, sorry

[modern agate]

Can’t blame you for confusing two fluffy organizations hehe

[smoky chasm]

would we spot any civilian activity?

[bold copper]

No hostiles or unknowns. This is just the most basic topogrpahical map.

When fuffle arrive in orbit proper they can get a good scan..

[azure mortar]

Not going to be about to spot ground traffic from high orbit without scanning

[calm cobalt]

Thanks Shack, do we have any clue what the light blue is compared to the darker blue? Is it the mine itself?

[fickle elk]

How specific do you want the Elim orders to be?

[fresh slate]

@fickle elk

[vagrant sentinel]

Might be a dumb question but logi trucks start with supply coming out of the transport right?

[woven merlin]

Morning Shack,

Less urgent, the two Orbital MedBay upgrades in the two equipment tabs have different lines - one indicates a maximum of 3FS healed without indicating a time frame, while the one on the orbital tab seems correct.

Could you please errata the oracle when you have time?

[sour quartz]

Shack, just for clarification, all out aerospace units minus 2 should have landed at the end of the last turns attack, and reloaded.

Or are you going to rule that those that chased the frigate, couldn't reload?

[bold copper]

Yeah if they are supposed to be landed. Represent that on your next Tac-Com map.

I probably left them on the tactical map to show them being a part of the combat.

[sour quartz]

Yep, were polling right now to either chase into LW2, or move up into mine to intercept the two new BCs and unknown contact.

[bold copper]

I will check that medical bay info right now

[sour quartz]

Quick question, can we send our aero assets after the frigate, and take it out in L-W1 before it retreats, or would we have to chase?

Into lw2

[bold copper]

What are the two medical bays?

Oh I see.

The Medic specific section

medical updated.

[woven merlin]

Yeah, that one has a 3FS limit that doesn't specify time frame.

Thanks!

[sour quartz]

Ohh, another aero question, if someone manns the flight deck as their action, do they reload 2 units, or just 1 per action?

[bold copper]

1 Action. Flight Deck updated

on equipment list.

[bold copper]

Yeah

[bold copper]

You still need to move. and do actions as normal.

[valid latch]

Does that mean we're restricted to the speed limit? Have to move the distance the unit can go, instead of moving anywhere on the map in 1 turn?

[blazing obsidian]

Sounds like it's going to act as a tactical map since we don't know what's there

[valid latch]

Bummer. I'll have to break the news to the group.^^;

[bold copper]

If they want to risk it. They can always use Rush order type😄

[valid latch]

... I'd bap you for that if you weren't the captain.

[woven merlin]

DM: "Sure, you could do that."

[fresh slate]

IH was looking to move to LH this turn. Are we able to do a strategic move as part of that? We are speed 1. Or do we need a turn of getting back together?

[bold copper]

Adam what group are you a tac-com / backup for?

[fresh slate]

I am helping make the map for Iron Hammer is all.

For formations.

I want to know if I have to plan moving around Elim or if I can set it up how we would move out

[bold copper]

Iron Hammer should have deployed to the ground last round right?

Fully?

[fresh slate]

Yes

[bold copper]

So if your on the ground you can make a move into the next region if you want. or hold tight and see whats in the next zones ect.

[sour quartz]

Cool, so if it's 1 action for both units, then everything is reloaded.

[abstract vector]

Atlas voted to stay in Elim for 1 turn. Our ground forces can hopefully qualify as a 3rd BG (we've got a bunch).

We will be prioritizing Evacuating any willing civilians from the area, Repairing Storm's VTOLs, refilling local Logi-Trucks with supply, and scanning/scouting the corners of the map.

[dire notch]

In a formation, can it be specified under which order types some units are ?
This would be to say light mechs are under evasive, thus gaining more defence for arriving 👀

Also, can some units be declared in the formation to be "scouting ahead" and thus give us more info when we arrive ? Or will the only mechanical effect be "okay thoses guys are further up" as we've placed them ?

[raven carbon]

Update to the Spearhead patch, for better contrast

[abstract vector]

Damn that's gorgeous

[dire notch]

Where do I sign up for spearhead ?

[vagrant sentinel]

Putting us to shame😆

[dire notch]

Also, no one knows on this so far ?

[abstract vector]

The exact rules on entering an unexplored point are up to shack, and aren't really meant to be hard rules.
You can be in evasive in formations though

[calm fable]

Formations are just tac com maps without a background

[dire notch]

Noice.

[calm fable]

Basically a “these units are moving to this place on the map” but you just don’t know what it is

So you can put order types on them all yes

[dire notch]

Nice nice nice.

[long briar]

I did the cards for mine

[dire notch]

Adam is now officially a secondary tac-com aswell 👋

...after what has happend for turn 4, I am very keen on getting more volunteers to help for some odd reason 🤣

[hazy spruce]

Just have everyone be a secondary TAC-COM and we all put our own orders on the map :p

[dire notch]

Oh god, collaborative paint 🤣

[abstract vector]

You should see our officers page. (They don't give orders just help coordinate)

[hazy spruce]

Exactly!

[fickle elk]

I assume that those of us in Elim are still bound by movement? No free actions like just laying out the trench lines we want to make?

[abstract vector]

Shack said earlier that we're in Strategic movement, which implies we can move wherever through the city. Just need enough people to declare their action as "hunting down bots" I think.

Effectively Neutralized

[fickle elk]

So if we have all 6 Redwall engineers and 12 infantry working, how long would it take to do this?

Blue is sandbags
Yellow is razor wire
Red is tank traps

[abstract vector]

You're still limited by action economy.

By my count that looks like 10 tank traps, so 10 supply and 10 engi actions - for example

dunno how many engineers you've got

[stark marten]

Should be 6

[abstract vector]

If you're ignoring movement, each engineer can build two things. I'm not gonna do the math for you XD

[stark marten]

Shouldn't forget that infantry can dig trenches. So that would give even more fortifications

[fresh slate]

You may want a route open to evac refugees and bring in feds when they arrive

[fickle elk]

The plan is engineer lays sandbag, infantry digs trench.

[dire notch]

...Do we need to put facing for each unit in the formation ?

Can't we just put a big ol' advance facing for everyone ?

[dire notch]

Any thoughts on this so far ?

I speak mainly in terms of "visibility" and "understanding what unit is which and carrying what", please for the love of god do not get us going debating on formations again 😅

[valid latch]

If you make a map diagram, you can showcase everyone's heading with a simple arrow.

Though I think if a mass of units are all pointing in the same direction together, you can showcase that and it's accepted.

[dire notch]

Okay thoses arrows look way better then what shack's provided us and what I used to do, oh my 👀

That tac-map looks brilliant

[valid latch]

I make my own assets.^^

[dire notch]

tho the green & purple callsigns are hard to read 😅

Looks pretty fantastic.

[dire notch]

thanks to timing, this DID dig this tho 😅

[valid latch]

Yeah, I might have to figure out how to adjust the coloring.^^; Maybe White outline and colored fill.

[sinful nebula]

some of our members wanted a brightened DF badge, so this is that

[valid latch]

I'd say a little brighter, it still looks kinda shadowed. But that's just me.^^;

[sinful nebula]

Updated again

[valid latch]

Oh yeah, that last one looks good.^^

[calm fable]

So we’re taking in orders in Venator, 3 people havent dropped orders, and I just wanted to know what MIA entails for them? Would they be left at Celldar mine as the rest of us move to Ziyal? As we’re moving on the Strat map would they come with us? Etc

Obviously yes they still have 8 hours I’m just checking before hand

[azure mortar]

@ Shack ^

[dire notch]

...same question for MIA but even worse, what if the MIA isn't even out the Atlas transport ?

I kindly considered them to join us in in formation to, y'know, L-H and Crossroads, so if they awaken from their MIA slumber they can join in a tleast for next round but, is that being too kind ?

[bold copper]

If the bulk of the group want to move on and units are out of position and not responding. Mark them MIA. MIA means "unit lost" basically. If they come back for the next round I will leave it to you Tac-Comsto allow them back. They miss more than 1 round in a row. They need to be marked MIA permanently.

Can't get credit for being in the fight. If your not in the fight.

[modern agate]

By GMs do you mean TAC-COMs or mini GMs?

[gaunt copper]

Hey shack, quick question, would it be possible for you to send the tactical map of Ziyal so me and marl can get the TAC-COM map ready for venator next turn?

[dire notch]

Wooh boy, okay, thanks.

[bold copper]

yeah Tac Coms

[modern agate]

Roger that boss!

[dire notch]

MIA Permanently means "you're not getting back, you're out of this, cya next campaign" ?

[bold copper]

Correct the message! ✅

[bold copper]

Yep

[dire notch]

Wow, okay.

[bold copper]

if its a ship captain. The crew take over.

[dire notch]

I understand, it's just I tend to be kind with that kind of stuff 😅

Still remember leaving Albert 1 in C3 like 4-5 rounds before marking him permanently MIA... 🤣

But I'll follow what you say if it's for the best

[stark marten]

Should we give you a list at the end of the campaign or updates in between? Got one player that hasn’t responded at all.
Another that will be without signal till mid July

[dire notch]

I know of 2 players who've literally left the server, so they're permanently MIA from the getgo in my book 😅

[bold copper]

Its fine. If stuff like this happens just mark them off and move on.

[gaunt copper]

Any possibility of this? I’m busy tomorrow so I wanted to get things ready for marl so he doesn’t have to do the set up alone

[bold copper]

You only get a map if forces are in the area.

[gaunt copper]

Right ok, fair

[bold copper]

You have no orbital or ground forces in the area.

[gaunt copper]

we will next turn, then the fun begins

[bold copper]

So setup a formation and thats how you will enter the map.

[gaunt copper]

We’ve already done that thanks to XSwords

Just wanted to see I could prepare a bit before next turn drops for the orders

[bold copper]

Nope. I will post this in meta chat as well so it gets spread. Its come up a few times.

[calm fable]

[old narwhal]

Takeoff and landing uses the VTOLs speed, getting in and out uses the infantry's, correct? Double checking I'm not crazy

[blazing obsidian]

Loading the infantry additionally takes the VTOLs speed, but otherwise you’re right

[open oxide]

Loading and unloading units as cargo. Takes both the transport unit and cargo units speed.

[bold copper]

See Action section of the rules doc

noted in that bit.

[calm fable]

Ah, don't really know where to put this but here seems good
One of our players, foamy_zaza has decided to quit the campaign. Not sure if you would like to remove them, or MIA them etc. I'd say it should just be unactivate as they only just got asked to post orders for the first time and haven't so not like they dropped out mid combat

[stark marten]

That should answer it #1382781756989767692 message

[calm fable]

Would it be simpler to just ask right now so we don't have to include every time that someone that hasn't appeared on a single map yet is permanently MIA?

[stark marten]

If they don't want to play I would just mark them permanently MIA.
Its also in their interest

[calm fable]

How do you mark someone permanently MIA though?

[modern agate]

Just note it down

I have a tracker on Rabbit’s sheet

[stark marten]

Yeah I have one too for Shovels

[vagrant sentinel]

Gosh this first round where everything is so cramped is terrible to make a map for😅

[calm fable]

at what point do we tell cap though?

[old narwhal]

He'll need to know at the end with all the KIA units when sorting out the payout

[bold copper]

End of campaign I will ask for a KIA / MIA list

So just keep an eye on your people. Probably the best way to handle it. Of course remove them from any maps going forward.

I assume 30% drop rate on all campaigns. Or any multiplayer function we've run.

Stuff happens.

[open oxide]

There’s a Tab in the Logi doc that I’m updating with MIA players.
It’s got their Callsign, BG, unit type and Discord.
You can always ping me with their name on the turn they go MIA. I can change it to temp if they rejoin.

[fickle elk]

Shack, just to double check, do you want a full tactical map for the Elim City battlegroups or more of a statement of intent and some diagrams?

[bold copper]

Depends on how complex a battlegroup is being. But a simple statement is fine.

[wintry radish]

What about a map overlay

Cuz currently each bg is submitting their groups order only, but with a map overlay, it would highlight movements of other bgs as well

[bold copper]

I don't understand what your asking.

[modern agate]

Does he mean like combining multiple BG maps into one?

That seems like it would get very chaotic and hard to read very fast

[wintry radish]

Sorry nvm

forgive me, this is what i meant, im not a great explainer

😭

ty @frank frigate

[dire notch]

By any chance Shack for formations, do you need anything in particular so you can easily copy paste it on the (maybe) future maps ?
I can get mine in transparent background, but I'm unsure as to the text font you use, or if you'd even want a .psd file or something 🤔

I can do .pdn files since it's paint.net export format for layers but, I have no idea if photoshop can open .pdn without workin' around. Could always give you the 2 separate layers by sending in one .png with the units and one .png with just the callsigns.

Or do we just throw it in as is and you'll figure out how to copy the formation back for you ? 👀

[vagrant sentinel]

This look okay?

I’ll add some more detail in text form as well but wanted to ask you fellow tac coms if this would work

[dire notch]

Some icons missing down south no?

Also probably better to put some black background or something for showing who's in what IFV

For a moment I thought they were units on the map till I read the rest, this can lead to confusion

[vagrant sentinel]

I handled transport vehicles a little weirdly because it was super inconvenient to try and show them all loading up in one spot

Yeah I can try to do something like that instead

Seems like a better solution for sure

[dire notch]

Yeah, + cap needs more what needs to be done then an actual proper 1:1 tac map if I understood correctly for elim city

[calm cobalt]

for what its worth, I like to have lower opacity icons at the starting position of the units and the normal icons where they end up

[dire notch]

Eh, it's more work I don't like.

[vagrant sentinel]

I did consider that idea. I am just not sure how much it really matter when we are all coming from the same place this turn. In the future though I will defintiely try it out

[calm cobalt]

where is the blank elim city map? It'll take me like 2 minutes to do

[dire notch]

Unless the GM (hello blockade runner and shack) specify they want the past unit's spots marked for easier tracking, I don't bother with it as it easily adds an hour more of work imo

[calm cobalt]

just to show you what I mean

[vagrant sentinel]

TTS has been working pretty well for me though. Didn’t take me more than an hour to get this done and that was with a bit of a learning curve

[dire notch]

Since arrows are harder to simplify, gotta transfer units over, verify arrows are on the right ones, making sure it's understandable, etc etc

[vagrant sentinel]

I’ve gtg right now but ping me with stuff and I’ll respond to it when I get back. I really appreciate the help! I’m brand new to this so I want to get a solid grasp of it early on😄

[dire notch]

Welcome!

[calm cobalt]

my take on it

That way we can be more precise with where people end up

[vagrant sentinel]

I think on other turns I will consider it. This turn though we are all starting from the same position and the clutter of all the arrows in such a tight space I think would make it more confusing

[calm cobalt]

I like to combine my arrows by the order type, makes it cleaner

but I totally get where you are coming from

[vagrant sentinel]

Still a good thing for me to keep in mind though. I defintiely remember seeing that on one of the past orders I was looking at

[calm cobalt]

I can share some of my old maps from the past campaigns if you'd like. I haven't made any for this one yet other than the strategic layer stuff

[abstract vector]

I would love some old battle maps, blank background images too if you got any!

[calm cobalt]

Granted these were only air assets, but these were rounds 2, 3, and 4.

I used the blank map as a background and layered the current turn over it so I could put all the players at their current positions (reduced opacity on the maps).
Then I went through and mapped where they wanted to go, connecting groups as they moved together

[abstract vector]

That's awesome! I was a baby infantry in 4N/36W the whole time in Blackout. Thanks!

[vagrant sentinel]

I think it’ll get better and I can do something more like that later on. This turn and this situation is just a bit harder to find a great way to map it🤔

Those are some clean maps though

[calm cobalt]

Play wiht it, find the workflow that works for you

[vagrant sentinel]

Okay tried to take some of the suggestions and improve on things. Lmk if it's better or if there's anything else I can improve on

[calm cobalt]

what are you using for your mapping? TTS?

[vagrant sentinel]

Yeah TTS. Been working pretty decent for me so far. I’ve got like near zero experience with any kind of photo editing software

[open oxide]

You're not locked to speed this turn.

[calm cobalt]

Thats fair, I was just going to suggest drop shadows if you were using paint.net or something

[vagrant sentinel]

Idk what that is but orders are already in anyways so oh well. It’s good enough as is

[open oxide]

Tactical speed.
You can move on the map as much as you want.
It's not just a Tac map. You're still limited on primaries and actions.

[vagrant sentinel]

Where can we find this information reliably in the future?

[open oxide]

In midrounds.
It's wether a tac map is need or not

I might be wrong though
I couldn't find the thing I remembered

#midround-events message
This is what I was going off of, I thought Shack said something else but I couldn't find it so it might have been someone else.

[vagrant sentinel]

I took that to mean that we could now move battle groups off this strategic point and onto another nearby one if we wanted to and had the movement for it

[calm cobalt]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1QCyZrXtKcpY8QX7YoCl00iE-i8Tb8vo-8VlsahR-Lac/edit?tab=t.0

also pinned in #meta-comm

[vagrant sentinel]

Okay so Shack declared that the tactical battle was over and so we could now move a BG off the strategic point without needing to get everyone to the edge of the tac map

[open oxide]

That's my understanding

[vagrant sentinel]

Well we voted to help clear Elim first before moving on towards crossroads so that works out well

[woven merlin]

... could I convince you to upload your pack to the steam library?

[dire notch]

Here's a few of mine aswell !

[dire notch]

Thoughts ?

[dire notch]

Once again, if shack passes by...

[vagrant sentinel]

I can try and get that figured out sometime this week. If you want though and are free sometime tonight like 10:30-12 pm EST we can just hop in a room together and you can just save all the objects I am using

[worn pond]

Should we maybe use https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1382045293591134218 for coordination (since recruitment is kinda pointless now) and restrict this chat for only communications with Shack? Just so it doesn't get filled with unecessary chatter

[azure mortar]

@woven merlin I believe @abstract vector had a Free Company TTS mod already setup

[azure mortar]

Yes, please

[vagrant sentinel]

Alright we can take the chatter over there

[calm cobalt]

Is there a supply icon that we have?

[long briar]

I grabbed the supply icon and supply package icon from the Titan campaign and plan to use them for Small Supply and Large Supply

[blazing obsidian]

Not a huge deal or anything, but Spearhead does have this version of the patch for better contrast on the map if you want to use that for future rounds

[bold copper]

Hey @valid latch what unit type is SP? SPG?

[stark marten]

Special forces

[bold copper]

[woven merlin]

Unfortunately, I am not..

[woven merlin]

That's the old icons

[stark marten]

There is one with the new icons. Dave uses it

[stark marten]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3440112714

[vagrant sentinel]

I went through and compared the icons in that mod to the file pinned here and the only difference I could find was with the infantry units. I don’t think it’s that big of a deal though and I couldn’t get those new infantry files to load in at a resolution I was happy with anyways

[calm cobalt]

Is there a unit icon for PAI with a jumpack and shield?

[abstract vector]

The shield is really just a straight black line, so you can probably add one in

[calm cobalt]

I'm not seeing one with a jumpack though

[vagrant sentinel]

Should clarify that I only checked the units that are in my BG

[abstract vector]

Use the one labeled LRM. It looks like a jump pack, especially if you draw some fire coming out of it

[open oxide]

Theres no PAI art with Jump packs. With or without the shield

[mental sundial]

Are those suppose to be ODSTs?

[abstract vector]

I shrunk them down and tinted them black

[mental sundial]

Ok. The PAI icon made me wonder a bit

I was like "How the hell do they have 5 PA troops!?!" 😂

[abstract vector]

Also, we're trying to move "How to Map" discussions to https://discord.com/channels/222052888531173386/1382045293591134218, to keep the Tac-Com-Comms chat clear for Shack.

[mental sundial]

Very good

[glass bluff]

The next PA upgrade: Put more money into them xD

[abstract vector]

Oh!!! Can we keep them?! (River Rats)
Deployable NPCs?! Are they Drop pod trained?! So exciting.
-# probably not but I thought i'd ask

[calm cobalt]

Do we know if we get individual movement after we strategic move into a new area? Feels like the answer should be no

[abstract vector]

Atlas did.

Individual movement: Kill Frigate
Meanwhile, Picket Line, waiting, Strategic movement: land at Elim Spaceport.

seems like the reverse would be plausible.

(assuming you have speed left)

Like if your VTOLs have 5 speed, but the BG has 2, you'd have 3 left when you arrive.

[calm cobalt]

Gotcha. Our BG is speed 1 so I don’t think we’ll have much to do

[open oxide]

Storm did it T2

[calm cobalt]

I think we should probably get a shack ruling on it one way or another

[abstract vector]

I like to think of it as "Cruise Engines" and "Combat Engines"
Cruise Engines go in straight lines at high speeds, but don't work when there are enemies nearby.
Combat Engines work when enemies are nearby.

One's for Strategic Movement, and one for Tactical Movement. You can spend your speed on either one or in a combination of both in any given round.

[calm cobalt]

That would make sense, I just don’t want to cheese the rules if that’s not something shack was thinking of

[gaunt copper]

can we have the unedited tac map for our orders?

[calm fable]

Electro we aren’t on the map yet

Chill

Not the place to ask

[valid latch]

Special Forces.

Sorry, I’ll correct that for the next order submission.^^;

[valid latch]

Hey guys. Some of my members have issue with where Shack put them on the map in the Mid-Round event.

VTOL Wasp is not where he's suppose to be. He's suppose to be in 4016 inspecting Reactor 1, not with the rest of the VTOL squad in 4318 looking at the Long Range Ballistic Missile silo.

LM BlueMec,LV Sapien, and IFV SklBus are surrounding the Main Lift in 4118 instead of spread out. BlueMedc in 4017, Sapien in 4217, and SklBus in 4117.

Can someone please let Shack know when he gets back online?

[bold copper]

Diving in today to finish up the maps South. Will get people moved.

Some like the infantry just couldn't get as far as they wanted.

Without Rushing.

All good.

[bold copper]

Oh I see. Based it off your text block and not the images.

[valid latch]

Yeah, sorry for the lack of information. I'll see about adding Hex coordinates for the next turn. But thank you for adjusting movement. I know one of my players at least would be very appreciative.

VTOL Wasp wanted to inspect Reactor 1, but they ended up getting roped in with the other VTOLs going in the other direction towards the missile silo.

[bold copper]

Rgr!

The color coding for BG's is probably going to be my go to next campaign.

[dire notch]

Should we still have callsigns colored by the movement they are doing for our tac-maps ? (red for advance, green for evasive, etc) 👀

otherwise this looks very nice.

[azure mortar]

Question, @ Shack:

Storm Blessed is probably going to be moving on the strategic map next turn.
Do we need to worry about the nitty gritty of tactical movement with our strategic movement, or if Elim City is secure can we just move strategically since the tactical map for Elim would not be a thing?

[bold copper]

Nope. Just move.

Elim City will not have a tactical map.

[calm cobalt]

Could we get a ruling on moving on a tac map after doing a strategic move?

Example being: dwarf fortress has speed 1 and moves to a location 1 movement away on the strategic layer. Can the individual units move on the tac map after that or are they just on the edge of it

[smoky chasm]

if they have movement left they can

thats what atlas did

[abstract vector]

That's what I said, he wants a ruling from Shack tho

-# to stop the long discussion again

[bold copper]

If you move it uses speed.

So if you dont have 1 speed left for stratigic movement. You can't move.

They use the same pool. You can only stratigic move if you either 1. get to the edge of the map in the direct you want to travel on a tactical map.

or 2. No Tactical Map for that area.

because the threat has been removed.

Warren saved 1 speed to stratigic move as a task force.

If they could kill the Frigate in orbit. They did. The threat was removed. So they moved on the strategic map.

[modern agate]

I think he means the reverse case if I’m not too tired (I have just woken up), if for example, Rabbit used our 3 strategic speed to move from a non-tacmap area to an active tacmap area, do our individual units have their full speed when we arrive at the active tacmap?

[bold copper]

No

Its the same speed resource.

So if you arrive out of speed. Your out.

[abstract vector]

3 speed can be:

2 strategic moves
and
1 tactical move

[modern agate]

So units with more than 3 speed could move, but the units with just 3 would be stuck, right

That makes sense, good to know

New question: how does that work for those of us coming in on the Mining Frigates, since we’re using their strategic speed, not ours.

[calm cobalt]

So what Ixen said yesterday was correct. I apologize for making a kerfuffle about it lmao

[abstract vector]

now it's 100% clear

which is good 🙂

[calm cobalt]

This is the important part to remember

[abstract vector]

Orbitals are just like giant Logi-trucks,

So any unit that disembarks still has its own movement.

Atlas did this too by waiting to deploy our HATs until Picket Line was in atmosphere.

[0.5] to disembark, then [6.5] to run to the paradrop site and back.

didn't need to spend [1] to strategic move while inside the orbital

[modern agate]

Makes sense to me

[abstract vector]

"Yes that random string of words I just said made perfect sense" >.>

[calm fable]

You’re moving on the Strat map and still using up that speed so I’d assume no

I look at it as the amount of movement x thing would do in a day

So if the orbital used all its movement it’s the end of the day, you cantuse your units days worth of speed aswell

[modern agate]

Now I’m confused because there’s two answers

Which is right lol

[stark marten]

Yeah but Picket line is a player unit

[abstract vector]

I don't see why that would matter. For what its worth, my answer was one clarified earlier by Shack, so the only relevant point is the NPC vs Player one.

[eternal glade]

Hey shack, Aviary has a typo

You put an extra R in there lol

[abstract vector]

Couple questions here:

What effect does the Black Cloud have on...?

• Orbital Drops
• Aerospace transition to Atmosphere
• Scanning Targets

Would Venator be able to detect (not necessarily identify) an enemy Orbital in High Orbit?

[open oxide]

Shack you have the Aviary Guns and Corvus Guns backwards.

Also the Echo (Our LF) is missing

[bold copper]

None

[dire notch]

Cap, L-H is clear yes ?

[bold copper]

Did it have a tactical map?

Sorry. Just closed everything please hold.

[dire notch]

Nope, nothing else on midrounds exept "Iron Hammer goes here"

[bold copper]

Yeah its clear.

[dire notch]

Just wanting to confirm L-H is clear

Alright cool, thanks !

[abstract vector]

Low Priority Question:
Has the Picket Line taken on any Refugees from Elim? If so, how many cargo bays are they occupying?

[fresh slate]

Shack can we know where LH empties into Crossroads for sake of mapping?

Is it just that NW corner?

[bold copper]

Just convert the direction of the line on the stratigic map to the tac map.

and your good.

So yeah that NW corner sounds right.

If corretions are needed for equipment please make a note on the next Tac-Map in text for me.

In the post or on the map is fine.

Gotta rest my neck for a bit.

https://tenor.com/view/fake-laugh-gif-26288312

[dire notch]

Oh. Yeah, that's way simpler.

[sour quartz]

Tac-com orders due Thursday? Or are we pushing it back to Friday?

[dire notch]

I was doing as you said converting the direction of the line from the strat map to the tac map, by getting the square and the line then extrapolating it and putting it on the strat map...

BUT YEAH NW SOUNDS EASIER AND SIMPLER TO DEAL WITH 🤣

I'm happy with NW corner :D

[bold copper]

Huh?

Why would they change?

[bold copper]

Just come from the general direction...

[dire notch]

Yes yes, I said right after I'm happy with the NW corner x)

[sour quartz]

Wasn't sure because of the push back by a day from the 4th, but I think we caught up on the time.

[blazing obsidian]

Spearhead has a clarifying question for the mine map; there's not going to be a tactical map initially when we land (we hope), do you just want generic "what we're going" orders and we'll sort out our positions later, or should we display where we intend to move this round? Just want to understand how limited our movement is considering we don't know what's on the ground

[fresh slate]

Mountain areas in Crossroads are impassable to at least vehicles correct?

at least those without jumpjets?

[open oxide]

There wasn't a push back.

[worn pond]

Is ascending/descending to and from orbit considered tactical movement and thus hand waved on controlled strategic nodes?

[reef niche]

It takes half the units speed to ascend or descend to/from high orbit

[modern agate]

Shack:

Question from Rabbit. Do we have a Hex size for our ships? Will we have 5 transports land in 5 hexes? One hex?

[eternal glade]

Shack, would it be helpful to highlight the zones Victorum's PDs have coverage on?

[abstract vector]

Shack/Dresden, could I have your approval for a wild plan that involves getting Redwall to Crossroads aboard Atlas?

It technically breaks the "don't split BGs" rule, but ends with the entire BG in one location, with their vehicles traveling through a non-combat map.

I'm hoping we can keep Redwall from having to sit in Elim for the rest of the game

[stark marten]

Might be good to add that there is no hostiles in L-H. So in practice both will be arriving in Cross Roads at the same time

[bold copper]

No splitting battlegroups. Ever

[blazing obsidian]

Is there any reason Atlas can't just take the ground path to avoid splitting? Or do they need time to get off the ground

[abstract vector]

not enough speed for that 😦

[bold copper]

Sorry. Core Rule.

[abstract vector]

Understood

I'll go burn my pretty spreadsheet 😢

hahaha that palpatine emote

[blazing obsidian]

Bumping this in case Shack's around, there were a couple other questions up here that I think are still waiting on an answer as well

[fickle elk]

The plan called for the BG to follow the same route at the same speed. Parts of the BG would just be embarked in another BG's vehicles.

[bold copper]

The plan had the battle group splitting. That's why he specifically said splitting a battle group. See the image above

[abstract vector]

Yes sorry if I didn't make that clear to you earlier, it was a very rushed conversation.

[fickle elk]

Will lay out plan when I get home

[valid latch]

Hey Shack, just wanted to let you know that one of Pathfinder's Engineers and infantry is missing from the board. ENG "Rapscal" is intended to be alongside INF "1st Tail" by the Main Lift, along with INF "Nothing."

I also noticed that I believe LOGI trucks "Blossom" and "Runers" are in each other's spots. Blossom is suppose to be up near the Sensor Tower, while Runers is suppose to be down by the medics.

Just thought I'd pass it on.^^;

[karmic plinth]

Holy cow, close quarters was right

[fickle elk]

The plan was: Redwall boards TF Atlas transports at Elim (Blue), moves to Crossroads via Route Red, then disembarks at Crossroads (Yellow)

Vehicles would follow the same route at the same pace.

[long briar]

Except Atlas, 212th, and shovels are taking the dotted route so we can be in Crossroads this round. (Atlas will only have 1 speed left when their orbital ascends from the spacedock)

[valid latch]

You're telling me. Mutimals don't take a lot of space, and even we are feeling a little cramped here.^^;

[abstract vector]

No, Atlas doesn't have the speed to take that route

that's why we had to split

and why Shack vetoed it

[fickle elk]

nm then

[abstract vector]

Sorry, wish we could!

[azure mortar]

The Storm Blessed Formation - Updated for lost units

[bold copper]

Blossom was trying to drive into a structure with a locked door. Infantry will need to get creative and unlock the door.

[calm fable]

requires clarifiction for one of venators players:
"I can say "Ride along until the truck doesnt go no more, then use my movement to go to X" right?"

[azure mortar]

If you know when/where the truck will stop, yes. But you can't have a conditional such as "My INF gets out of the IFV as soon as it encounters opposition".

[smoky chasm]

someone wanted to get an answer to this and tabby is busy so can we get an answer to this?

[bold copper]

Make sure the TAC-COM notes your scanning very clearly first.

Or the bomber order to strike could get ignored. But I'm ok with it.

[sinful nebula]

can vehicles fit through this mountain pass? the coloured highlights seem like there's nothing in the way. it just seems small

[sinful nebula]

also do we have a straight sandbags icon for engineer stuff or do we have to make one?

[abstract vector]

got a round one, can always use a drawn line if you need

[sinful nebula]

the round one is supposed to be 'dug in' which is a different thing to engineer sandbags

I also have an artillery player with a minefield, and the only description of how big it is, is '180 degrees' but how far out does it extend exactly? 0.5 hex?

[frank frigate]

Is there an order marker for digging in? I see the sandbags but I don’t want to confuse myself / Shack.

[stark marten]

There was none. Maybe add on the side text?

[abstract vector]

It's not an order (though the order would be hold), digging in is an action INF can take rather than moving.

[frank frigate]

Yes. I was wondering if there was a symbol and/or marker besides the sandbags. If not, I’ll put it in text on the side.

[abstract vector]

Ah, yea. The sangbags serves both purposes at the moment. Text for clarity is a good idea

[bleak crag]

This may be ok?

Just remember to scail these to fit.

[dire notch]

I still got the ol' assets...

Here, thoses are assets from the ol' C3 packs that might still be usefull here.

The blue line is a trench, btw.

[old narwhal]

https://tenor.com/view/i-don't-think-so-i-doubt-it-far-fetched-little-far-fetched-tom-durant-pritchard-gif-7714657322623564986

[dire notch]

Ay, not me Trench, cap's assets !

[smoky chasm]

we all ms paint doodle our own interpretation of any missing game assets(joke)

[dire notch]

Oh, trench commenting about the trench.

funni.

[karmic plinth]

He knows his stuff

[abstract vector]

Made this one for heals

[karmic plinth]

It would be really cool to get this pinned

[dire notch]

Is that the red cross or is that the "distinctly legal red cross™ " ?

[smoky chasm]

no we dont wanna get sued

make it green or something

[abstract vector]

It's the red plus

you get to "Add" FS to the healed unit

[dire notch]

I can distinctly remember cap being like "nuh-uh" for red cross logos as he didn't wanna get problems for it

Makes me think!

Let me rumble through...

MASH Icon !

Not from shack's asset pack, made it myself for C3.

That's also why it's so smoll. If anybody needs it at some point here it is.

[abstract vector]

also, we should move icon talk to BG organization, as promised earlier

[dire notch]

Icon talk is important for tac-map making, being relevent to this comms I feel.

How can we be clear to cap if we don't have the relevent icons ? :D

[smoky chasm]

we discuss in BG org and than tell shack our final verdict

[dire notch]

BG Org for planning & coordinating BGs
Tac-com comms for... well, mapping stuff aye ?

[smoky chasm]

for communicating with shack which could be important questions, clarifications, or informing shack of decisions such as what we’ve decided the map should look like in the absence of official resources

[dire notch]

Not sure we need to be that strict with when or how we talk in tac-com comms...

As long as we understand what's on the map I guess anyways.

[smoky chasm]

we dont need to be strict with it thats just how I see it

[vagrant sentinel]

Orders this week were very to the point since it’s such a simple action. If you need anything else from me let me know

[dire notch]

Opinions on this ? :D

I won't lie, I've been struggling to get shadows that I like for red names, I've settled on "black + white" for today, i have no idea if it's any good.

Might just go for light red instead of red red for callsigns next time...

[worn pond]

I've settled on just doing white names with black surrounds.

[dire notch]

I might if shack isn't bothered by it 😅

[open oxide]

The colored names look helpful IMO.
As long as they don’t hurt your eyes staring at them.

[mental sundial]

Yeah a drop shadow effect on white words can make a world of difference making them readable

But there is nothing wrong with coloring them either. Whatever makes it so Cap can read it

[dire notch]

Yeah, white word with black background is great for readibility
But I remember from C3 cap wanting the names to be colored in link with the orders (so red for advance, white for hold, green for evasive, etc)

So... While I do like names to be readable, I also like the idea of coloring them with their orders so... 😅

I'll give a shot at lighter colors maybe for next turn

[bold copper]

Hey @valid latch Why do I have 7 maps and a good doc in Tac-Com Player intentions? 😄

I dont mind if the good docs are a reference for the Tac-Coms but I wont be using them. You guys need to boil these player intentions down into something easily consumable for the GM! Thanks!

[modern agate]

Took me a second to realize you meant google doc and then I was confused and went to look and wow, that’s a lot of maps and content

[dire notch]

Just looked at well wow

7 maps might be a bit too much... 😅

[vagrant sentinel]

When the planning goblin in my head takes over😆

[bold copper]

The different Tac-Com styles can really be seen this round.

[dire notch]

Hehe.

[modern agate]

As we start to descend into mapping hell :P

[dire notch]

Which one do you like best ? 👀

[bold copper]

Hah Redwall. 1 Sentence of actual intentions. 3 paragraphs of RP 😂

[worn pond]

Yeah I thought there was way too much RP in there... like there's like 400+ orders to process

[modern agate]

TTRPG players are nothing if not consistent

[fickle elk]

They've started to go a little stir-crazy.

And they really, really wanted me to mention those sandwiches.

[bold copper]

Atlas over here trying to play Pokemon.

[fickle elk]

And I figured the pictures showed intent clearly enough. Not like we're doing much except marching.

[bold copper]

Yeah your good. Just having some fun looking over the Tac-Com posts.

[abstract vector]

Thought you might appreciate it more with a little photoshop work 😆
Been fun to push myself to learn the program better

[mental sundial]

Priorities man lol

[fickle elk]

We are moving a single tile on the strategic layer.

[vagrant sentinel]

Yeah I didn’t even bother to do a map for it😆

[bold copper]

Can I get a double check on these coordinates?

Is this the location both Heavy Transports wanted to be on?

[dire notch]

...god I hope not

3917 for STAN

3918 for Domusil

Looking good according to orders, dug up a bit in venator orders even tho I'm not their tac-com.

[bold copper]

Thanks. Just wanted to get a confirmation.

[calm fable]

Yep

[stark marten]

Hey any feedback on this so far? Probably gonna split the map between ground and air since this feels already too crowded

[dire notch]

3 HATs being crowded ? Nah, that's good so far for me.

[stark marten]

Yeah I had in my mind just that under those three HATs are like 10 ground units?

[dire notch]

o-oh

...yeah split it up. 😅

[stark marten]

In general the whole BG is split between 3920, 3819 and (mostly) 3820

[dire notch]

Only 3 hexes ? You might need 3 maps even

I mean, depends on the movements made

[calm fable]

FYI shack, unit Bober was meant to stay on Honey-p then dismount

Ah sorry, thats on our end not yours

Player didn't check over their order or the proposed map

[abstract vector]

Plus Flyer 7's scouting in High Orbit (Very scared)

[bold copper]

How did kirby Land? Rough Airfield?

[modern agate]

We all unloaded from the Lumaran Transports.

I'm unsure if Warthog is on right now, they made the map and did all that, but I'll do my best to answer questions

[bold copper]

Gotcha.

[modern agate]

We figured Kirby would just be grounded until the Airfield is built

[bold copper]

Lets go with "flew along side"

[modern agate]

Oh! I thought you denied that. So are they technically in the air or on the ground?

[bold copper]

So they got out of their mechs to explore? Interesting choice.

[modern agate]

Yeah. T-Rex suggested it intially, that they might have better chance investigating not from their big mechs, but on the ground. Only you know if that was a good choice 😂

[blazing obsidian]

Welp, good to know

[valid latch]

Hello. I was concerned that unit misplacement in the last round was due to lack of information. So I decided to try and include Hex placement and facing.

Sadly it expanded the information by a lot. So I ended up dividing the intel by each team my battlegroup is split into.

5 map movements for each team, plus a blank final unit placement, and a combined map movements.

I’ll see if I can crunch all the intel down into one map. But it’s going to be very text heavy.

[bold copper]

Can anyone tell what JackRbt is?

[bold copper]

Most of the unit locations we're do to them not being able to actually go to the location you indicated.

[valid latch]

Looks like a light vehicle to me. The buggy from Halo.

[modern agate]

I know myself that Jackrabbit is an LV, I don't recognize the icon though

[bold copper]

Speed 1 infantry cant go 2 hex's. Which is fine because I shuld have been more clear on the starting location.

[woeful forge]

Hey shack, I had a player (and myself) wondering if light mechs (and other land vics) can target air units with their weapons

[dire notch]

Oh dear god why

[bold copper]

Nope. They can fire at landed targets.

[woeful forge]

Alright thanks

[bold copper]

unless they have weapons that say they can.

[karmic plinth]

Jack Rabbit is an Auto Cannon light vehicle. I didn't have a symbol to use for it so I just grabbed something from another game

I'll use the regular symbol from now on

[modern agate]

The Up Armored LV and the Autocannon LV don't have specific icons, sadly

[karmic plinth]

I was trying to go to high ground with it too

Right

I noted all of our upgraded units in the objectives

Oh I forgot to say light vehicle Auto Cannon in the objectives I just said Auto Canon my bad

[valid latch]

Yeah, everyone assumed we were spawning right at the Dock Exit on 4117. But I think most of us accepted that the infantry weren't going to go as far due to that mix up.

But some of the vehicles still ended up in wrong positions, and I think two of the foot soldier units ended up missing from the pile of infantry rush entirely.

Regardless, I'm opening up Illustrator now to see what I can do it cut down.

[dire notch]

I think you can merge some battle paws maps together easily

[valid latch]

They technically already are. It's the text that's the issue.

[valid latch]

How's this Shack? Does this setup look comprehensible?

[karmic plinth]

I just got home from work

[karmic plinth]

I was just trying to give all of the upgraded units unique icons so they would be easier to differentiate on the map for you, that's why I put a anti-air token on stinger. I used an ALT LV for armor up on thunder. And I used that little gauze hog for Auto Cannon. Also bolts has a machine gun

[bold copper]

Yeah looks good

[valid latch]

Thanks, I'll reset my order.

[gaunt copper]

Hey shack

Can you send me a full image of the battle in venators sector?

Like the map

I can’t word this right…

[karmic plinth]

That's going to happen at the end of the round most likely

[gaunt copper]

Right Yeah

[modern agate]

Patience

[karmic plinth]

It's game time not planning time lol

Enjoy it while we're still getting the show

[gaunt copper]

You do know that I am not a patient person lol

[karmic plinth]

This is the part you're supposed to enjoy more lol

[dire notch]

Less panic, more hype !

[stark marten]

Didn't manage to get the orders all mapped yet but there are enough Build actions and the large supply for building the proper airfield and more

[bold copper]

rgr

Cool so an airfield is going down. Nice!

[stark marten]

Just a heads up AF will be 3820 and the Hex will be really full

[calm fable]

the battle rolls haven't even happened yet xD

[abstract vector]

I'm presuming this was unsuccessful?

[worn pond]

Can't catch another trainer's pokemon

[dire notch]

...I thought this was about ARMCOmon for a moment

[abstract vector]

I mean, they're sentient creatures that can make their own decisions, not Pokémon, but it's up to Shack.

[smoky chasm]

tbh Ive been pondering recruiting some of the locals if I swap off medic for my next campaign

[smoky chasm]

dammit vivian

not again

[abstract vector]

Hey, Combat Engineers are Ultra Rare, right?

[valid latch]

BTW. I want to let you know Pathfinder’s official emblem patch has been finished.

I have it pinned in our chat. One with a clear background to be used on the map, the other as an official patch.

Hope it looks good for you.^^
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[hazy spruce]

Yes

[abstract vector]

So, worth a shot at least.

[stark marten]

Two exist. One is ConPete in Storm and Consul in IH

[abstract vector]

I had one player swear they were gonna spend their req making the River Rats if it worked lol

[karmic plinth]

So what happens when artillery tries to funnel a target that can't move?

[bold copper]

Nothing

Artillery are going to get simplified next version

[dire notch]

Too complicated to keep track off in the orders ?

[bold copper]

No. Its not meeting the fantasy and dont work as well with the changes to infantry.

[abstract vector]

Just making sure you didn't miss this from Venator. Any Hostile Orbitals present at C-Z?

[dire notch]

Oh. Another arty rework is in the works then I see !

[bold copper]

Good check in.

Negative Contacts in high orbit.

[azure mortar]

@ Shack
Do those*"Ravager"* heavy gunships look like they're lumbering enough for VTOLs to hit?

[valid latch]

Pardon me Shack, when next you come around. This is not urgent.

Is it possible to jury-rig Ion Mines for Engineers to be "space mines?" Can an Engineer, with the help of a VTOL, create a minefield in space?

Another option is to have the robots drive the forklifts full of explosives and drive them into invading tanks.

[gaunt copper]

https://tenor.com/view/space-tim-curry-gif-7935778

[blazing obsidian]

I know the round isn't over yet, but I'd also like to relay a question from Spearhead's engineer, as he wanted to repair/maintain the grav lift and wanted to know if that was successful or not

[bold copper]

Sadly no that's an orbital upgrade.

[karmic plinth]

So Rabbit's already trying to board the factory Walker

[glass bluff]

Somehow it's not surprising.

[bold copper]

[vagrant sentinel]

We tried to tell them it’s probably not worth it in #meta-comm but I guess they still want to run it😆

Typically we would call this natural selection where I’m from

[karmic plinth]

Why is it the innate Armco Spirit to try to infiltrate giant walking robots

[dire notch]

We got an engineer in Iron Hammer who wants to make a casino out of the factory walker...

[karmic plinth]

I don't see why not

[worn pond]

1. Shack can Storm ask the people in Nerys Village if they need to be evacuated or are they okay to hold tight?

[dire notch]

Hey Shack, Ajax is an ODT and thus is indeed 5 FS, not 6.

Should have made that clearer on the map for next time

[open oxide]

@sturdy belfry Answer Shack in here

[dire notch]

...was intending to relay his message from iron hammer comms but that works too yes

[modern agate]

Shack, question, Bolts should have been carrying and then dropping an infantry squad, Boreal. Was that simply not shown on midrounds, or have they been possibly missed?

[karmic plinth]

I may not have depicted their transportation perfectly

I realized when I just checked our orders today that I used an outdated version of the map where it doesn't have the transported text that I added on the last day of making the maps on all of the units that boarded our transports this turn

[calm cobalt]

Has bg4 been added to the Hill Mine map? We haven’t heard anything about it nor have we seen any of their units. Such as the artillery of the logi truck that just got shot

It’s been address in midrounds now lmao

[modern agate]

@ Shack ^

[dire notch]

Shack, R-Flag is shooting at the factory walker.

[sturdy belfry]

Shack! My artillery crew would love to share the good word of hiex with the enemy factory walker.

[smoky chasm]

Alpha(warpit) was on the tripleS HMG was that accounted for?

[eternal glade]

Nvm they were fixed