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[terse valley]

same never used it in my daily life so far as i can remember

[icy flax]

offen-sicht-lich
open-see-ly

You use it when a thing is clearly perceived by any one. One can easily come off pedant with these words depending on the tone.

"Sollte ich A machen?"
"Selbstverständlich"

"Ich weiß nicht wieso ich den Computer nicht anschalten kann."
"Weil der offensichtlich nicht an der Steckdose ist 🙃 "

[terse valley]

good point

[delicate tiger]

schöner: "...nicht eingesteckt ist"

[fervent kernel]

Ich bin letztens einem biederen Automechaniker begegnet @delicate tiger

[delicate tiger]

*biederen

[fervent kernel]

In 2 Monaten werde ich die gesamte Grammatik ordentlich durchgehen

[fervent kernel]

what is the reason fuß here gets an e? is it to do with noun declension or should i just memorize that it's just like this

[fervent kernel]

i think you just memorize it like that

alright thx

[delicate tiger]

old form, only used in some constructions today, like "zu Hause"

[fervent kernel]

ok thx

[icy flax]

1. Erste Frage

Vielleicht war sie sich als einzige ihrer Feigheit bewusst, weil die anderen das Leben einen unnötigen Wettkampf nannten umd ihre Angst mit Großzügigkwit verwechselten.

Hier kann beide die Angst von ihr oder von ihren sein oder? Bin deswegen verwirrt. Ist jedenfalls nicht besonders wichtig zum Plot dieses Buches. 🙃

2. Andere Frage:
   Gerade erst im Buch gelesen:
   Akzeptiert man zu sehr seine aktuellen Lebensumstände, wird man dann "angepasst" genannt. Gäbs noch ein weiteres Wort dafür?

anscheinend wäre noch dazu untergebracht und beherbergt nennenbare Synonyme. Stimmts?

[undone verge]

Synonyme für angepasst?

würde eher integriert oder assimiliert oder etwas in diese Richtung sagen

[near folio]

Ich verstehe deine erste Frage nicht ganz, kannst du sie anders formulieren?

[long whale]

1 - yes. 2 - no, those are definitely not synonyms for "angepasst" (why would you think so? 🤔 ) A synonym would be "konformistisch", if you wanted to emphasize the "blending in" aspect: farblos, if you wanted to emphasize the opportunistic aspect: opportunistisch. ;)

[icy flax]

Man versteht nicht ob "the fear is from a female person" oder "the fear is of the group of people
" ist. Da lese ich zwei mögliche Bedeutungen.

[icy flax]

konformistisch ist sehr sehr gut und ist mir einfacher zu merken

[grim wind]

Why we say der Türkei insted of das Türkei

[hollow ether]

It's actually die Türkei

As for why it has that article, idk. Maybe a linguist can help out

[rough mirage]

I guess its because turkey in germany is a feminine word, but it actually has no reason to be one, it just is. Another example is Schweiz. You just have to memorize the articles of certain words which kinda sucks, but its just something you'll have to go through if you wanna learn the german language better

also sorry if I mispelled something, I speak german as my first language

[ancient pulsar]

can sich (d.) anschauen be used to say watching movies/videos

[viral jolt]

yes

[ancient pulsar]

dont't we use just anschauen for that?

zwischen "etwas (Akkusativ) anschauen" und "sich (Dativ) etwas (Akkusativ) anschauen" besteht kein Bedeutungsunterschied.

aight i found an answer

[viral jolt]

ja both work

[fervent kernel]

it's all about reflexive verbs,with reflexive form(sich anschauen) the only difference is that you imply that you did it on your own,for yourself,without any help

[ancient pulsar]

i knew reflexive did that but it seems totally unnecessary here

Ich habe einen Film angeschaut

but anyways it is what it is :D

[fervent kernel]

i dont exactly know how its used but maybe it goes like
ich habe den X film angeschaut means you watched it in cinema or something,you only affected by the result of action
ich habe mir den x film angeschaut means you searched for it on your laptop or computer and found it and watched it, you are the one who makes the action took place

[long whale]

No... at least in this case, the only difference is the reflexive form is more idiomatic. ;)

[long whale]

Wouldn't worry about whether it's necessary or not. I guess it's just that we do like to use our verbs reflexively. ;)

[sage rover]

it's both the same "ich habe den Film angeschaut" and "Ich habe mir den Film angeschaut"

[fervent kernel]

so why there is a reflexive form of that verb 😔

[wise pendant]

It just is. Sometimes the pronoun can just be added optionally to emphasize the link to the subject again.

[ancient pulsar]

thank y'all

[narrow pier]

how do you say in German ( to share secrets ) for first person for example ? can you say ( ich werde meine Geheimnis teilen ) does this make sense?

[sage rover]

Yes it make sense but you woudn't use thise phrase because when you share a secret, you just do it and you would not announce it

[viral jolt]

isn't there something related to, can I share a secret? or can I tell you a secret

[sage rover]

Ich teile mein Geheimnis or Ich erzähle dir ein Geheimnis

[viral jolt]

ah

[narrow pier]

ok thanks

[wise pendant]

We often say:
Jemandem ein Geheimnis anvertrauen (to entrust smb with a secret)

[narrow pier]

👍

ich muss arbeiten um Geld zu der Urlaub verdienen kann ( is this correct )

[sage rover]

Ich muss Arbeiten um für den Urlaub Geld zu verdienen

[wise pendant]

Either "Ich muss arbeiten, um Geld für den Urlaub zu verdienen." or
"Ich muss arbeiten, dass ich Geld für den Urlaub verdienen kann."
The order of the objects does not matter that much.

[narrow pier]

second sounds better, danke

[narrow pier]

danke

[wise pendant]

I'd say the first is better

[sage rover]

both works and sounds good

[clever fern]

Hallo:) Kann jemand sagt, ob hier einige Fehler gibt? (Und was (welche Regel) soll ich lernen noch um diese Fehler nicht zu machen?) Der Geburtstag ist schon am nächste Woche.

Alles Gute zum Geburtstag, ***. An diesem Tag wünsche ich dir duftende Blumen, liebevolle Umarmungen, alles Glück der Welt, einen unvergesslichen Tag und dass alle deine Wünsche in Erfüllung gehen.

[sage rover]

ist komplett richtig, zu wem wirst du das schreiben?

aber vielleicht ein bisschen zu sehr

[long meadow]

Kann jemand sagen, ob es hier einige Fehler gibt? Und welche Regeln soll ich noch lernen um diese Fehler zu vermeiden? Der Geburtstag ist schon nächste Woche.

sonst alles richtig

[sage rover]

👍

[long meadow]

you would say "am" only with days and when its without "naechsten", like:
am Mittwoch
am 3. Januar
am Montag

but just
nächste Woche
naechsten Dienstag etc

[clever fern]

Zu einem Junge. Ich lehre ihm, aber ich weiß Deutsch nicht sehr gut (besser, als er)

[clever fern]

Was bedeutet das?

[clever fern]

danke:)

[sage rover]

Wir benutzen in Deutschland nicht so viele Glückwünsche, meistens nur "Alles Gute Zum Geburtstag" und dann geht das Gespräch weiter
Aber das kommt auch auf die Person an, manche würden auch so viele verschiedene Glückwünsche wie du nutzen

[long meadow]

schreibst du es ihm auf eine Karte?

oder willst du es ihm sagen

[clever fern]

Ach so, jetzt verstehe ich:)

[sage rover]

🙂

[clever fern]

Ich will eine Karte schreiben

[long meadow]

yeah on a card i think its appropriate to write so much

[clever fern]

Thank you. Maybe I'll do it shorter:)

[fervent kernel]

@long meadowobwohl Hieb hier als Schlag festgelegt ist, habe ich es auch in Verwendung mit Schwerthieb gesehen und vor kurzem mit einem Spaten

[simple swift]

Maybe cut "einen unvergesslichen Tag", because it sounds better too then imo. 😄

[fervent kernel]

@simple swift schau mal wie Hieb hier verwendet wird

[simple swift]

"an diesem Tag wünsche ich dir....einen unvergesslichen Tag"...so away with it xD

[fervent kernel]

Welche Bewegung ist da jetzt gemeint? Benutzt sie den Spaten da wie eine Axt oder wie einen Speer

[simple swift]

Ich denke, dass damit der Spaten gemeint ist. Ich bin auch schon so gegen Wurzeln vorgegangen. 😄

[fervent kernel]

Ich weiß aber wie genau benutzt sie diesen, laut dieser Beschreibung

[clever fern]

Ja, eine gute Idee. Ich denke über diese Wörter schon

[fervent kernel]

in den Boden rammen klingt wie eine Schaufel, aber dann später teilt sie einen Hieb aus der die Wurzel durchtrennen soll.

[fervent kernel]

@wise pendant weist du das vielleicht?

[wise pendant]

Was genau ist die Frage?

[fervent kernel]

Laut den Wörterbüchern ist Hieb ein Schlag

[simple swift]

Ein Hieb ist in diesem Falle ein heftiger Stoß gegen die Wurzel.

[fervent kernel]

Ich hab das Wort in Zusammenhang mit Werkzeugen auch schon öfters gesehen

[fervent kernel]

Ein Stoß ähnlich wie ein Speerstoß?

[wise pendant]

Hieb ist im Grunde einfach eine schnelle, ruckhafte Bewegung

[fervent kernel]

Es wäre toll wenn die Wörterbücher das auch als solches angeben würden

[fervent kernel]

Aber danke, ich denke ich hab es jetzt verstanden

[long meadow]

i think you pinged the wrong person

[fervent kernel]

Oh well, i just pinged the first native i saw in here.

[long meadow]

i see

[fervent kernel]

ich wusste nicht das Schlag an sich, eine viel umfangreichere Bedeutung hat, als die meisten annehmen

Ich dachte immer Schlag wäre nur jegliche Art von Angriff mit den Armen mit Wucht

[wise pendant]

Es kann auch Sorte bedeuten.
"Peter war derselbe Schlag Mensch"

[terse valley]

das hab ich ja selber noch nie gehört 👀

[fervent kernel]

hab ich so auch noch nicht gehört

[ancient pulsar]

Die Besucher wählen den Erfinder mit der originellsten Idee. would this be a correct paraphrasing of this text

''Am letzten Tag wird der kreativste Erfinder gewählt.'' Welche Idee den Besuchern wohl dieses Jahr am besten gefällt?

i am a bit confused whether i would imply the same thing if i said originellsten instead of kreativste

[long meadow]

i mean, would you say its the same thing in english?

the most creative and the most original inventor/creator

[ancient pulsar]

um right, originality can be totally crap :D

whereas creativity is net positive

[long meadow]

yeah, id just stick with kreativ

[ancient pulsar]

thanks

[frigid flint]

Could someone please proofread this for me,

Seehr geehrter Herr Seifert,
ich habe Ihre Anziege am Schwarzen Brett gelesen und finde ich sehr interessant. Meine Tochter braucht Nachhilfe in Chemie, weil sie das Fach sehr schwer findet. Sie sage, dass Chemie unlogisch und sehr schwerer als Mathe ist. Deshalb suchen wir einen Nachhilfelehrer. Wir wollten nur fragen, was der Preis pro Monat ist.

Viele Grüße
Mario Gruen

[sage rover]

wait a second

Sehr geehrter Herr Seifert,
ich habe ihre Anzeige am Schwarzen Brett gelesen und würde fragen, ob es für Sie möglich wäre, meiner Tochter Nachhilfe zu geben. Sie empfindet Chemie als sehr schwer und unlogisch.
Daher würden wir uns über eine Rückmeldung freuen. ...

Mit freundlichen Grüßen
Mario Gruen

But I would ask another person because it's better when multiple people have proofread a text

[vivid skiff]

Hey

Uh

I was trying to do the translations exercises and I wanted to know
Die Holz feuer fangen sehr leicht
Die Holz sehr leicht feuer fangen
Which one is right?

[frigid flint]

Thanks, that helps a lot, but the question specifically asks to ask what the price is

[undone verge]

is this for real life or a german exam?

[undone verge]

neither

try DeepL

[frigid flint]

A german exam, guess I should've mentioned that, sorry

B1, to be exact

[sage rover]

Thanks

[undone verge]

all good, I was just wondering because irl it would be kinda weird to describe your daughter's opinion on chemistry, but for an exam it's perfectly fine hahaha

[vivid skiff]

DeepL?

[undone verge]

website very good for translations

[frigid flint]

https://www.deepl.com/translator

[sage rover]

Über ein Angebot würden wir uns sehr freuen, auch gerne mit einem Vorschlag über den Preis der Nachhilfe.

I'm unsure but this could be fine

[frigid flint]

Can you suggest anything else that I could add as a situation?

[frigid flint]

Yep, sounds a lot better, thanks a lot!

[sage rover]

Yeah I've struggled a bit because IRL I would wait for a answer before asking for a price because else it could be too direct

[undone verge]

hmmmm...not really. I was always bad at coming up with creative details for these very normal scenarios

[frigid flint]

Yep, same

[undone verge]

@sage rover is german your native language?

[sage rover]

Yes

[frigid flint]

Also, should I add a comma after MFG or VG or anything else?

[sage rover]

Here you have to ask someone else (Me and Commata....)

[undone verge]

no comma

TIL I've been signing my emails wrong for the past year

😂

[frigid flint]

Also, does this sentence read right:

Um unsere Erde zu schützen, müssen wir viel tun, um gegen die Klimaänderung und die Erdwärmung zu kämpfen, die die ganze Erde beeinflussten.

[long meadow]

Erderwärmung

beinflussen

[sage rover]

Um unsere Erde zu schützen, muss viel getan werden. Etwa muss gegen die Klimaänderung und die Erderwärmung gekämpft werden, da diese die gesamte Erde beeinflussen.

[frigid flint]

Why did you use passiv, though, ... muss viel getan werden ...?

[sage rover]

idk

because it sounds better

[frigid flint]

And is it possible to combine all of it into one sentence?

[sage rover]

Yeah, müssen wir viel tun talks directly to the reader

[sage rover]

Ist possible but something we call "Schachtelsatz / verschachtelter Satz"
wait a second

Um unsere Erde zu schützen müssen wir viel tun, wie etwa gegen die Klimaänderung und die Erderwärmung kämpfen, das diese die gesamte Erde beeinflussen.

[frigid flint]

Okay, thanks! One last question:

Um unsere Erde zu schützen, müssen wir viel gegen die Klimaänderung und die Erderwärmung tun, die die gesamte Erde beeinflussen.

Does this read right?

[sage rover]

👍

[frigid flint]

Thanks a lot!

[sage rover]

You're welcome

[granite spade]

Hallöchen alle

So macht ihr diener
das lächeln der könige reich.

This sentence (from a poem) is giving me brainfreeze

Ihr is presumably the subject of macht right?

Ihr Diener (apostrophic Ihr) macht das Lächeln der Könige reich.

[terse valley]

ja

[granite spade]

ok

danke

[toxic beacon]

What is the best way to learn German in your opinion?

[fervent kernel]

I would say Step 1 is to master the grammar and learn the essential vocabulary. Step 2 is after you have already mastered the grammar, read a lot and learn a lot of vocabulary

[weak jacinth]

i have some sentences and i made this sentences negative. can someone check for me if its true?

Ich habe kein Auto

das ist keine Tasche

das ist nicht mein Schirm.

unser vater hat keine zeit.

warum kaufst du nicht iPhone?

are they make sense?

im not sure about the last one

[upbeat thicket]

warum kaufst du kein iPhone

[weak jacinth]

oh danke!!

i thought so

others are right?

[upbeat thicket]

gerne!

[upbeat thicket]

yes!

[weak jacinth]

ok!! 😊

[ancient pulsar]

Ich sehe einen Film.
Ich sehe einen Film an.

Der Unterschied?

[terse valley]

second one is rather '' ich schaue einen Film an ''

but they both basically mean the same

[void zenith]

Ich sehe einen Film/ Ich sehe MIR einen Film an. Es gibt da keinen inhaltlichen Unterschied, nur grammatischen

[fervent kernel]

It depends on context really, when you use sehen and sich ansehen

You'd say ich sehe dich am Hbf and not ich sehe mir dich am Hbf an

[upbeat thicket]

second one sounds weird [granny‘s nachricht]

[nova sparrow]

Moment, Ich sehe einen Film: (vielleicht im Wohnzimmerfenster der Nachbarn)
Ich sehe den Film an (weil ich seinen Inhalt verstehen möchte)

[terse valley]

well yeah but also no

[nova sparrow]

^^ see above^^

[nova sparrow]

it's on the edge to be Haarspalterei 😉

[charred harbor]

Don't forget that Vater and Zeit need capitalising though

[celest pollen]

Meiner Meinung nach können Hunde in der Stadt leben, aber nur in groß**en** **__Häusern __**mit einem Garten.

How did __Häusern __come about?
[ in großen ] because dativ pluar - den

das Haus, die Häuser
hmmmm Fehlende 'N

[nimble viper]

-n is added onto the end of most dative plurals

Mit den Spielern, mit meinen Freunden, usw. Not added onto indefinite nouns like Obst or Geld though, as these don’t have distinguishable dative plurals (es gibt nur mit dem Obst/Geld). If you can add an n, you probably should in the dative plural.

[ancient pulsar]

aight thank you guys

[narrow pier]

Der Mann, dem mir geholfen hat, ist seit gestern krank ( is it grammatically correct? )

[charred fog]

der mir geholfen hat

[unborn fog]

Der Mann, DER mir geholfen hat, ist seit gestern krank.... This is correct.

[ancient pulsar]

yeah, they are right and the reason is that he is the one that helped you (did the action) so he is the subject not indirect object

[acoustic breach]

Hello
Is it "auf meiner or meine Sprache?"

As in
Auf meiner/meine Sprache heißt "Ich" "xxx"

[icy flax]

auf meine, it takes Akkusativ

[acoustic breach]

:D danke

[icy flax]

Auf meine Sprache, Portugiesisch, heißt "ich" "eu".

[wise pendant]

"Auf meiner Sprache" wäre glaub ich korrekt. Aber komisch hört sich das noch immer an

[terse valley]

yeah '' auf meiner sprache '' is the right one

[simple swift]

Würde vom Gefühl her "in meiner Sprache" schreiben.

[icy flax]

Sure? Google Books in German do not have "auf meiner Sprache", it seems.

[terse valley]

''auf meiner'' is for sure right

[near folio]

Daraus kannst du aber nichts erschließen, vielleicht war einer der Sätze Wir können uns auf eine Sprache einigen. oder so.

es ist doch merkwürdig, dass "auf einer Sprache" gar nicht vorkommt.

[undone verge]

it seems like you would say in meiner Sprache rather than auf though, right?

[terse valley]

yeah that also

[simple swift]

Would agree.

[icy flax]

das ist auch wahr. Tja, also @acoustic breach, richtig wäre auf meiner Sprache. Ich hab selbst mehrmals falsch geschrieben und den Fehler in diesem Server verbreitet

lol

[acoustic breach]

Alles gut@icy flax 😊

Vielen Dank Leute!

@nimble viper falls du dich dafür interessierst

[lucid spear]

Is no spelled nein or nine?

[terse valley]

nein

[lucid spear]

Ok thanks

[fervent kernel]

hello,why the answer is seid and why there is a ihr there,doesn't it simply mean how many students are there in your class

[undone verge]

Basically, the question is 'how many students are in your class?'
but in german, you can formulate this 'wie viele seid ihr' (how many are you)

so the question word for word is kinda like 'how many students are you in your class?'

wie viele Schüler seid ihr in eurer Klasse

[fervent kernel]

oh gotcha,thank you

[pale plinth]

Good Evening, could someone tell me which of these is correct?

Apologies for bad quality

[sage rover]

ein heißer Kaffee

because it's a male word (male: heißer, female: heiße)

[pale plinth]

Thank you very much, good sir

[sage rover]

Immer gerne

[viral jolt]

I've heard that a very posh way of saying you're welcome is gern geschehen

am always on the lookout for using it

[fervent kernel]

@long meadowbezeichnet man auch das Ende einer Treppe als Treppenabsatz?

weißt du das zufällig

ein Absatz ist ja generell die Unterbrechung von etwas

hmm ja Podest habe ich öfters gelesen

[dense haven]

Ereignisse

[hollow ether]

Der Begriff ist mir neu, hab den also nachgeschlagen. Scheinbar sind der und Treppenabsatz Synonyme

[fervent kernel]

Ja vorhin haben wir beide gelesen, dass bei dem Haus der Frau nach 6 Stufen ein Absatz war, mit so viel Platz, dass man auf dem man sogar einen Tisch platzieren könnte

und ja das sind Synonyme man hätte auch Podest sagen können

[hollow ether]

Okay das ist ja wenigstens gut zu wissen.

[hollow ether]

Aber das bleibt immer noch ungeklärt oder? Oder sind diese Begriffe doch die Bezeichnungen dafür?

Ich wüsste es auch gern 😂

[tame beacon]

Wusste gar nicht, dass es so viele Bezeichnungen für verschiedene Treppenabschnitte gibt

[terse valley]

das braucht halt auch keiner 💀

[tame beacon]

fr einfach Treppe, Stufe und Geländer das war's

[terse valley]

haha echt so

[hollow ether]

Ihr habt Recht aber das ist jetzt nur aus Interesse

Kann mir kaum vorstellen dass ich die überhaupt verwenden würde

[fervent kernel]

Ja ich habe das Gefühl selbst die Autorin weiß das nicht so genau

Wir müssten einen Architekt fragen haha

[charred fog]

man muss es wissen, wenn man Schrifsteller, der komplizierte Kampfszenen auf Treppen gern beschreibt, sein will

ungenaue Vokabeln könnten die Leser verwirren!

[nova sparrow]

Klaus, aber es gibt keinen Treppenpodest, nur einen Treppenabsatz 🤔

[shut briar]

Nope! Not until i have an instinct for it 😫

[long whale]

To my knowledge, it's "am Fuße der Treppe" if you're standing on the bit of floor below the first step. ;) And yes, der/das Treppenpodest do exist (even though I've never heard/seen them used)

[lofty onyx]

I have a question about Arzt vs Ärztin. I understand the 'in' for masc vs fem, but why does Ärztin have the umlaut?

[undone verge]

many words that turn feminine with the addition of -in also take an umlaut in this form

Koch/Köchin,

I have said 'many' but I am having trouble thinking of any more examples

[lofty onyx]

I see, danke. Is there a rule to it?

[celest pollen]

Gestern fuhr ich als Schwarzfahrer, deswegen muss ich heute eine Strafe / ein Bußgeld bezahlen❌ ✅

[undone verge]

not that I know of

verb position 2

ja, I think people say rather 'gestern bin ich schwarz gefahren'

but aside from idiomatic-ness I think it's alright

[night dagger]

People do say this, but it’s problematic for obvious reasons. Some find it better/less offensive to say „ohne Ticket fahren“ or something similar. @celest pollen

Many busses and trains even removed the term from their signs, the only place I still noticed it when I did a bunch of traveling was in smaller villages in the Black Forest, but that’s just my experience.

[simple swift]

Ich habe das Gefühl, dass dieses Wort nicht wirklich ein Problem darstellte, bevor gewisse Herrschaften es zu einem gemacht haben.^^ Sollen wir auch Begriffe wie das Schwarzsehen/malen/geld usw. ausrangieren? Die Herkunft des Wortes hat nicht einmal etwas mit der (Haut)Farbe zutun.

[fervent kernel]

What happened when my sentence have multiple subjects?
For example, "Could you or the company..." -> "Könnten Sie oder die Firma...".
Just choose the verb tense/conjugation appropriate for the closest subject?

Context: I'm contacting the secretary that may or may not forward the relevant info to the head office. I want to request something that can be fulfilled by her or the company/head office.

Like, what happened if it's the other way around, as in not a question. "Sie oder die Firma könnten..." or is it könnte?

[night dagger]

Mit meiner Antwort beziehe ich mich auf die heutige Situation in DE, und auf meine persönliche Erfahrung, und wie gesagt, manche meinen, dass wir auf diese Wortwahl verzichten sollten, da es ne negative Konnotation hat. „Schwarzfahren“ ist ja etwas illegales und strafbar, also wenn man sagt „Sollen wir auch auf Schwarzmalen (oder Schwarz- was auch immer) verzichten?“, ist meine Antwort natürlich „Hat dieses Wort eine negative Konnotation?“. Die Herkunft ist egal.

Es ist manchmal schwierig für andere, diese Perspektive zu kapieren, weil die Situation sie nicht betrifft, da sie nicht schwarz sind - wie könnten sie also verstehen? Auf jeden Fall kannst du #850404908946423828 gucken, und danach über dieses Thema im #archived-sensitive-topics sprechen, wenn du Bock hast :)

[delicate tiger]

If you have a contact, write only to that contact; if you don't have a contact, use some general wording like "Sehr geehrte Damen und Herren"

[fervent kernel]

Thanks for the answer. Just curious. I get that there are workarounds to avoid that kind of sentence construction, and perhaps it sounds weird in German.

[undone verge]

huh? never knew this was problematic and I hang around a lot of leftist circles. I don't think it has anything to do with race but can't say I know for certain. And I can affirm I still see it very often throughout Hessen and Bremen in public transport...

ah, I see someone already noted this

in any case, for me Schwarzfahren, like all forms of petty theft, has a super positive connotation 😄

[night dagger]

Language develops slowly over time. You can google it and read about what different transport companies and people are saying and doing about it, but it’s definitely a thing. Not trying to express an opinion here, rather share the information, even if others don’t agree with it - it’s a thing.

[thorn zodiac]

"Angehörige privater Sicherheits"

I was wondering if genitive is always formed in this way with the S at the end? I looked at a dictionary and I didnt see -s being added to sicherheits for genitive so could someone explain? If im missing some other grammar topic please let me know 🥺

[sage rover]

I would say it is "Angehörige privater Sicherheit" but i don't know the context

[thorn zodiac]

full sentence it was in "Im Kampf befinden sich Berufs- und Zeitsoldaten sowie Angehörige privater Sicherheits- und Militärunternehmen."

[sage rover]

Ok, in this case it means "Angehörige privater Sicherheitsunternehmen" because it would be too long to write "Angehörige privater Sicherheitsunternehmen und Militärunternehmen"

[final marlin]

Now it makes sense. Lol 😂

[thorn zodiac]

Thank you this makes more sense lol

[sage rover]

De rien

[ancient pulsar]

Herr Vogel liebte Frau Wals hübsches Lächeln.
i though this would be hübschen (genitive), do we need es because it is actually no-article-neutral?

wait, so, i think it becomes clearer if we take Frau Wals out, and then it becomes obvious that it is no-article-neutral accusative

or perhaps it is the 1st one

and Frau Wals counts as possessive

aight i guess that is it

[undone verge]

I think you got it. Congrats, that was a tough one, threw me for a second

[sage rover]

hübsches bezieht sich auf das Lächeln

[hollow ether]

Good question. Gut feeling though tells me you just use one of the conjugations, namely for the subject you mention first

So in that case I'd mention the more important subject first so that it's conjugated correctly

So in your case Könnten Sie oder die Firma...

[granite spade]

I've since found the sentence that put the doubt in my mind: 'Der Ontologie als erster Teil der Metaphysik geht es ,,um die Grundstrukturen des blah blah blah''' The obligatory es is there, but the author does not say 'In der Ontologie...geht es um' but omits the preposition. Is this something one can generally do, or does it occur here because Ontologie is then qualified with the phrase als erster Teil?

[elder hamlet]

Have a question!
" Ich schreibe dir die Adresse auf " translates to " I'll write the address for you ".
now how do you say " I'll write your address " in a similar way??
Thanks in advance!!

[sage rover]

Ich schreibe dir deine Adresse auf

means I'll write your adress

[hollow ether]

Warum dir in diesem Fall?

Wenn man die Adresse für sich aufschreibt

[elder hamlet]

makes sense. Thanks again!!!

[sage rover]

Bitteschön

[sage rover]

Es wäre grammatisch korrekt aber es gibt wahrscheinlich nie den passenden Kontext dafür

[sage rover]

It would be "I'll write your address for you"

[icy flax]

|| in case no pig answered u yet||
der Ontologie is in Dativ, the "es" is immer noch da.
Here they using it the same way ppl in bavaria sing

"ein Prosit, ein Prosit der Gemütlichkeit"

de facto singin "a cheers to the comfyness"

The sentence you brought says "to the ontology as first part of the methaphysics it goes about the fundamental structures of the blah blah blah"

[nova sparrow]

Dir is not needed...

[nova sparrow]

imagine you have a broken hand and can not write...

[granite spade]

Right no I understand it, it’s just the structure I wanted to clarify.. someone responded early and said it’s just a way of using the verb ohne in

Meiner Frage ging es um den Gebrauch des Verbs gehen um 🤓

Geht das so? Lol

[icy flax]

Ich glaub, es wäre einfach merkwürdig eine Frage zu personifizieren. Da hat der Author das Bereich von Ontologie als eine Entität betrachtet. "Für die Ontologie als erster Teil der Metaphysik geht es um etw."

Da steht immer noch das obligatorische "es", weil es ||pun intended|| bei festen Ausdrücken diese Nötigkeit gibt.

Geht es bei unserem aktuellen Thema noch darum, wann das ,,es" obligatorisch ist, oder besprechen wir lediglich die Struktur von "es geht um etw"?

[celest pollen]

Diese Fläche wurde gebaut, um die Kinder in Fußball zu spielen können

Aber Julian und Tomas sind sehr weit von dem Flughafen in Hamburg entfernt und der Kraftstoff ist heutzutage sehr teuer
❌ ✅

[delicate tiger]

Der Platz wurde gebaut, damit die Kinder Fußball spielen können.

[celest pollen]

Fläche is more likely for

die Fläche der Schreibtisch ??

Although not because I remember a colleague is a gardener and he wrote "Grünfläche"

[worthy ravine]

Grünfläche is right.

[long whale]

Yes, it works. It's like saying "What ontology (mostly) wants ..." or "What ontology wants (above all)..." And yes, saying "In der Ontologie geht es darum..." would also be valid, although there is less stress on how important the issue is for ontology, I'd say. ;)

[worthy ravine]

"Fläche" is not just for surfaces, but is also used to describe a flat area. For example Grünfläche or Betonfläche (= concrete surface/area).

Note: It's "Die Fläche des Schreibtisch*s/Schreibtisches*."

Here an example for a "Betonfläche"

And this is a "Grünfläche"

[fluid jungle]

is Grünfläche specifically for a flat grassy area or is it also just a flat area? does grün mean grass?

[long whale]

Yes, in this case, "grün" = "Gras" ;)

"Grünfläche" does not necessarily only mean "Gras", though, it might include flowers, trees, bushes (a cemetery also counts as "Grünfläche").

[upbeat thicket]

there is also the noun „das Grün“ e.g. in „das erste Grün des Frühlings“ which refers to the entirety of green plants

[fluid jungle]

ohhhhh danke! im writing this down

that does make sense to me that a cemetery count as a Grünfläche because you put flowers down for loved ones that passed on

[fervent kernel]

Sorry if this is a stupid question but I'm only two days in of learning, does german have the concept of "silent" letters like english?

[long whale]

Yes. E.g. an H inside a word often only serves to make the preceding vowel long, it is not pronounced as it would be in a word like "Hotel" - if that is what you meant.

[fervent kernel]

Ah, that does answer my question, danke!

[hollow ether]

My French friend is confused by this

[upbeat thicket]

After long vowels or at the end of the word, the letter R is vocalised and sounds more like an „a“ - e.g. „mehr“ (more) is pronounced like [meːɐ̯]

[worthy ravine]

A park can also be a „Grünfläche“

(Btw for anyone wondering: I‘m also a native speaker, but my ticket didn’t get approved yet.)

[fluid jungle]

Dont worry! I still appreciate the help. Danke! Hope your ticket gets approved soon.
Also the way I see it is like there are sometimes flowers in a field of grass so that's why sometimes a grünfläche means other plants as well as a park or a cemetery

[fervent kernel]

How to translate, "Am I still a member?"?

"Bin ich immer noch ein Mitglied?"

Context: I'm asking if I'm still registered as a member in my local Mieterverein.

Not sure if it's noch vs immer noch or noch immer. And not sure if I use ein or just Mitglied.

Or perhaps using the word "Mitgliedsstatus" for this kind of usage?

[loud spindle]

You're asking it correctly.

"Bin ich immer noch ein Mitglied?" Is correct.

[nova sparrow]

and yes, you could drop the article : Bin ich immer noch Mitglied?

[fervent kernel]

Thanks for the answers, Mogol and Bernie64GER.

[ancient pulsar]

Ich stehe auf sie.

how strong is this expression, is it love, crush, fancy, like

[long whale]

This is entirely meaningless. You're looking for "auf jemanden stehen", and I'd say it's like "to fancy someone" ;)

[ancient pulsar]

or be attracted

oh right stehe

[ancient pulsar]

can i use it to say I have a crush on her

[long whale]

I guess so. Although you might want to add something like "total", since "auf jemanden stehen" seems a bit weaker to me than "to have a crush on somebody". 🤔

[ancient pulsar]

that's interesting

danke

[narrow pier]

hi, is ( das Schimpwort ) formal or informal, I want to say, the children learn bad language, by bad I mean like cussing and unrespecting language, not sure whats it called ( weder im Deutsch noch im Englisch )

[upbeat thicket]

das Schimpfwort/das Fluchwort/die Beleidigung is neutral when talking about bad language
der beleidigende Ausdruck/der Kraftausdruck is rather formal

[delicate tiger]

Wo wird "Fluchwort" denn benutzt? Hab das noch nie gehört/gelesen und laut Duden ist es eher ein Synonym für "Fluch"

[narrow pier]

Bösartige Websites ( is this formal for innappropriate websites )

[delicate tiger]

*Webseiten

[nova sparrow]

Webseiten mit fragwürdigem Inhalt (this includes a wide range of "wrong" content)
Bösartige Seiten sind eher welche die Deinen Rechner Angreifen.

[narrow pier]

dankee

[nova sparrow]

gerne 🙂

[upbeat thicket]

fluchen bedeutet schimpfen, beleidigen
das Nomen dazu ist Fluchwort
Ich komme aus dem Süden Deutschlands, also da wird das öfter gesagt - vielleicht ist es also eher ein regionales Ding

[delicate tiger]

jo, wird anderswo keiner verstehen

[upbeat thicket]

unangemessene Webseiten wäre wohl der passendste Ausdruck

[upbeat thicket]

Hast du echt noch nie gehört, dass man dazu fluchen sagt? Das kommt mir komisch vor.
Im Duden gibt‘s dazu einen ganz normalen Eintrag mit der Bedeutung…

[delicate tiger]

fluchen natürlich, aber Fluchwort nicht

[narrow pier]

👍

danke

[upbeat thicket]

scheint das Gleiche zu sein wie schimpfen -> Schimpfwort

[granite spade]

Ja: Letzteres, ich wollte mich nach dem Gebrauch vom in in diesen Strukturen erkundigen.

[granite spade]

Thanks for the clarification!

[celest pollen]

Wie weit hast du zum Zentrum von deiner neue Wohnung?✅ ❌

[obtuse isle]

„Das kind lernt in der Schule“
„Das kind lernt in dem Schule“
Why is the first one correct and not the second one? What are the two different cases here?

[charred harbor]

Das __K__ind*

It’s “der” because Schule is ALWAYS feminine

Using “dem” would imply it’s either masculine or neuter

It’s dative case, to answer your question
Masculine singular -> dem
Feminine singular -> der
Neuter singular -> dem
Masculine/feminine/neuter plural -> den

So for example..
Ich spreche mit dem Mann (masc)
Ich spreche mit der Frau (fem)
Ich spreche mit dem Kind (neut)
Ich spreche mit den Kindern (plu)

[upbeat thicket]

Wie weit hast du zum Zentrum von deiner neue__n__ Wohnung?

[obtuse isle]

Ghost ping 😔

[upbeat thicket]

my bad, I typed an answer without realising the message above me already did so - it‘s too early

[obtuse isle]

You’re good 🙂

[scenic drift]

“Erfrischend, wenn dein Einsatz im Job zählt. Und nicht, wen du liebst”
Am I right in parsing this as “refreshing when it’s your commitment on the job that counts, not who you love”?

It took me a couple of goes to understand it, I feel Like it’s a bit confusingly phrased 🤔

[upbeat thicket]

Ugh, I was stumbling over this too

[scenic drift]

Oh thank god it’s not just me

[upbeat thicket]

I found the „wenn“ and „wen“ confusing because i read the „wen“ as „wenn“ too and got confused haha

[gloomy sphinx]

I like her

[gloomy sphinx]

my english is not good enough to give a translation that would 100% satisfy me , but that far you really got the meaning of that sentence

[steel patrol]

Can someone please tell me what's going on here?? Because I'm freaking out. Both accusative prepositions - both followed by the dative case??

[shrewd torrent]

I think it might be singular accusative actually, like "for the environment and for the individual"; Mensch is one of the weak nouns.

[charred fog]

Mensch becomes Menschen in everything but singular nominative

[weak mist]

welcome to the realm of weak nouns ✨

[swift hare]

Sounds like accusative to me.
Nominativ: Wer? Der
Genitiv: Wessen? (Des)sen
Dativ: Wem? Dem
Akkusativ: Wen? Den

[steel patrol]

Ok, I'm now pretty embarrassed to know that this is what it turned out to be. In my defence though, up until now I've only ever seen and used the word "Menschen" in its plural form. Anyhow, thank you all. 👍

I can stop panicking now and actually focus on the topic of the book. 😄

[fervent kernel]

Does this sentence make sense? Entschuldigung für die Verspätung. Ich hab mich in etwas Arbeit verstrickt.

[celest pollen]

Meine Mutter hat gesagt, dass ich heute den Boden im Hause fege muss, damit sie mir einen neuen Besen gekauft hat ✅ ❌

[nimble viper]

I think you mean Meine Mutter hat (mir) gesagt, dass sie mir einen neuen Besen gekauft hat, damit ich heute den Boden im Haus fegen müsste

[celest pollen]

And wouldn't it work both ways?
She told me I have to clean > (cause ) bought a broom

• your example

[nimble viper]

I have two questions for you

How are you interpreting your sentence in english, and, why are you specifying im Haus... do you mean zu Hause?

[celest pollen]

in Haus mmm drinen

I am not a nativ in English or German

Therefore, it probably adds a little to the native language and it makes sense to me and it doesn't in both

hmm

[nimble viper]

damit - so that

Your damit would have to go to your first clause, otherwise, you are sweeping the floor > consequence: your mother has bought you a new broom

[celest pollen]

ein Geschenk für Arbeit
Ok ok i think i know already
I try to build new sentence

Meine Mutter hat mir einen neuen Besen gekauft , damit ich heute den Boden zu Hause fege**__n __**muss. ✅ ❌

[nimble viper]

fegen muss (only the müssen is conjugated)

I would also say that with the damit, it can be a bit confusing

[celest pollen]

um, zu ? statt damit?

[nimble viper]

In that your mother did something in the past so that you would have to do something in an explicit present

Which is why there is less pressure implied if you would say ".... fegen müsste"

Here is what I mean in english:

Meine Mutter hat mir einen neuen Besen gekauft, damit ich heute den Boden zu Hause fegen muss > ... so that I have to sweep the floor at home today

Meine Mutter hat mir einen neuen Besen gekauft, damit ich heute den Boden zu Hause fegen müsste > ... so that I'd have to sweep the floor at home today

[celest pollen]

nicht gern vs gern sweeping floor

[nimble viper]

But if your mother wasn't strict on it, or you actually wanted to sweep the floor, or you weren't aware of her intentions:

Meine Mutter hat mir einen neuen Besen gekauft, also kann/muss ich heute den Boden zu Hause fegen > ... so I can/must sweep the floor at home today

[celest pollen]

I feel the depth of the message in this
You present a lot of such tidbits that I don't think about for a long time

Ok danke für Ihre Mühe

[nimble viper]

kein Ding

[elder hamlet]

Does anyone know some software that ll check our German sentence formation grammatically??? (Like grammarly for english)

[long whale]

This does not exist.

If you want to check whether a German sentence is grammatically correct, your only choice is to put the/an English version of that sentence through deepl.com (and then compare it to your original German version). Or to ask here. 🤷

Just putting your German sentence through deepl and checking whether the English version makes sense will not help - trust me on this.

[elder hamlet]

Yeah exactly!!!

That's why I ve been looking for some software. But yeah bummer 😕

[celest pollen]

Wir immer denken, dass bald die gute Zeit beginnt, bald beginnt das Leben
Wenn ich dieses Geld verdienen werde, dann gehst gut
Wenn ich das erreiche, dann gehst gut
❌ ✅

[elder hamlet]

Ich muss dir auch noch von Julie erzählen ; Here in this sentence, what could be the reason for using 'dir' instead of 'dich'? is it bcoz of the 'von' dativ preposition?

[charred fog]

because when using erzählen, the person you're telling it to is in dative

and what you're telling is accusative unless a special preposition like von is used

[elder hamlet]

Got it! Thanks!

[viral jolt]

• https://rechtschreibpruefung24.de/
• https://www.duden.de/rechtschreibpruefung-online

someone from the server recommended these to me when i asked the same question. had them saved but never used them. if you do, let me know too if they work :)

[elder hamlet]

yeah sure. Thanks 🙂

[final marlin]

Best way is, learn wrong. Then you will get trolled by your friends and then you will never make that mistake again.

[elder hamlet]

ohh that definitely works 😅

[viral jolt]

imagine having german friends to right your wrongs

[celest pollen]

But I have seen sentences that besitzen is also used for things
So how to explain it?

z.b
Sie besitzen Farmen.
Wir besitzen diese Technolgien.

[fervent kernel]

hello,i"m kinda confused cause of both noch offen and lassen,deepl translates the second part as .we still leave open ,what does the second part mean
ob wir die aufgabe erledigen,lassen wir uns noch offen

[sullen cypress]

"lassen wir uns noch offen" means that we are unsure if we will do the task, mentioned in the first part. It's a saying in German.

you can join into practice room red and we can help you with that

[ancient pulsar]

Sein Vater ist Arzt und er wird auch einer.
Sein Vater ist Arzt und er wird es auch.

which one sounds better?

[inner torrent]

Both sound ok, but I would use the first one

[ancient pulsar]

oh really?

cuz it is my version

the book used the 2nd one

[upbeat thicket]

Both are correct but the first sentence sounds more natural

[ancient pulsar]

aight danke

[latent wadi]

angehener Artz

[nova sparrow]

But Er besitzt blaue Augen you won't hear from a native speaker, even if it's technically correct Imho every native speaker will use Er/sie hat blaue Augen.
because you can't change them like socks: ... besitzt blaue Socken, und grüne, und weisse!

[steel patrol]

"He owns blue eyes"? That... that sounds worrying.

[nova sparrow]

Just what I tried to explain above^^

[celest pollen]

Wie zum ?
Wandern hat kein Articel

[nimble viper]

der Polterabend << Is this the party of the wedding-eve, or is this an occasion where you smash kitchenware, or is it both? I'm finding conflicting sources

[nimble viper]

Every verb has an article, it's 'das.'

[celest pollen]

Ich lerne jeden Tag eineinhalbe Stund**en** lang Deutsch

From where ist that "en"
Akkusativ pluar Deklination adjektiv ? - en?

[nimble viper]

It's not declined, that's just the plural for 'hours.'

[steel patrol]

I know, sorry, I just found it a bit funny. 😄

[charred harbor]

keinen Artikel*

[long whale]

It is the party on the evening before the wedding, and traditionally, that's when you smash some china. (Not all couples are happy about this, since the cleaning up will be their responsibility...)

[charred harbor]

“We smashed and destroyed everything in the area because we’re getting married!”
“Wait, we’re getting married?”

[long whale]

Oops. Let me clarify: the guests are the ones smashing the china.

[charred harbor]

😂

This is all new to me; I’ve never been to a wedding before nor personally known engaged people, so

[nova sparrow]

Zum Wandern...
Zum Radfahren brauchst Du ein Fahrrad
Zum Cabrio fahren solltest Du eine Mütze/Kappe tragen und vielleicht auch einen Schal.
It's build like above ^^ and you could also say:
Wenn Du Fahrrad fährst.... or
Um Fahrrad zu fahren ... or
Wenn wir Wandern / Beim Wandern ...
If you build the sentence like this you signalize there is an ingredience that should / could / must be used.

[fervent kernel]

und da kam ich, die den Satz reflex

mit

hölle vervollständingen wollte

[stuck pendant]

In a compound word, what properties does that word always inherit from the last part of it?

I know it will have the same gender

I suspect it also has the same plural form/ending

[plain umbra]

I think that's pretty much it.

[stuck pendant]

ah makes sense

[charred fog]

i saw while reading harry potter some time ago
,,Mrs Dursley war dünn und blond und besaß doppelt so viel Hals...'' (rest of the sentence is unimportant)
is this like a special exception or something?

[fervent kernel]

because it's from harry potter, a novel

it's a stylistic decision

normally you'd say, sie hat blaue Augen

[elder hamlet]

does anyone here use Leo dictionary? This might sound stupid, but i have some doubts in using a german dictionary.

[hollow ether]

Leo is pretty reliable, though i didn't use it much myself

I use dict.cc

[charred fog]

it just gives single words without context or any example sentences, i wouldn't recommend it

[elder hamlet]

ok so my question is when you search for a verb in a dictionary, you get many meanings like this

how should i interpret these meanings?

What's the actual meaning of etw.akku (von jmdm) ?

i understand etw.akku means something in akkusativ form. but then why they have provided all this? and how should i interpret them?

[delicate tiger]

you need the while construction; etw. -> etwas (von jemandem -> from someone) bekommen

bekam/bekommen -> got/gotten are the past forms

[charred fog]

@elder hamlet Just don't use it in the first place

[hollow ether]

What would you rather recommend?

It's useful if you want single word translations, articles of nouns, prepositions that go with verbs, cases, etc

[charred fog]

yeah for that

conjugations and declensions it's useful for

but actual definitions there's better options

I haven't used it but dict.cc seems popular

[hollow ether]

Yea but it's about translations not defnitions

[charred fog]

but single word translations aren't very useful and can be confusing

linguee.de is good too

one I personally like but haven't seen many people using is the Cambridge German to English dictionary (https://dictionary.cambridge.org/de/worterbuch/deutsch-englisch/)

[elder hamlet]

understood. so that something(etwas) will be in akkusativ and that someone (von jemandem) will be in dativ during sentence formation. is that right?

[elder hamlet]

i got introduced to leo at the very first. so it kinda got attached to me. anyways will look into this one too

[hollow ether]

Yeah

[granite spade]

‘Die Vertragsgegner konnten sich zwar einer beachtlichen Unterstützung unter den IRA-Gruppen (vor allem im Süden und Westen von Irland) sicher sein, ihnen fehlte es aber an einer effektiven Kommandostruktur, einer klaren Strategie und an ausreichend Waffen’

Wieso wird das Adjektiv ‚ausreichend‘ nicht dekliniert?

Ist das adverbial zu verstehen?

[long whale]

Yes. If you declined it, IMO, it would mean every single weapon was inadequate - instead of their not having sufficient/adequate weaponry. Does that help?

[granite spade]

Sort of, yes. But it’s a bit tricky for me, because my brain really wants to read it as an adjective lol

[white oyster]

Hallo ! Ich habe eine kurz Frage .
Which one is better ? " Hallo alle " oder " hallo zusamenn" ?

[coarse grove]

"Hallo zusammen" sounds better

[white oyster]

Vielen dank !

[spiral vapor]

Gibt es einen Unterschied zwischen der Vortrag und die Vorlesung?

[hollow ether]

Vorlesung: lecture at a university
Vortrag: presentation or speech of any kind

[mighty wolf]

is a way to remember that that "Vorlesung" is made up of Vor Lesung or "For Reading"? And/or "Lesung" sounds like "lesson" in English. Or is that stretching it too far? (it doen't work for Vortrag, which would be Vor Trag or "for wear"!)

[icy flax]

vor-lesen is "to read fore", which with time becamse "to read aloud".
Vorlesung is a person who read some stuff sitting in front of you and "bla bla"-ing the thing they read to you

[hollow ether]

Yeah that works because outside of a uni setting, Vorlesung also Refers to a public reading

Nothing to do with "lesson" tho

But yeah what voodoo says is how u should rather remember it

[spiral vapor]

I was confused due to linguee, must be a mistake on their side then

[hollow ether]

Well Vortrag is a general term for a presentation or speech like i said, so a uni lecture could fit in the category, but hardly anyone would call it that

Lecture is probably just the best translation for those example sentences

[fervent kernel]

Does this sentence make sense? Entschuldigung für die Verspätung. Ich hab mich in etwas Arbeit verstrickt.

[whole falcon]

Ich kann in einem Team sehr gut arbeiten.
Is the word order here correct?

[inner torrent]

Yes it is, but I would recommend the word order "Ich kann sehr gut in einem Team arbeiten", it sounds better

[inner torrent]

Yes it makes sense, but a native speaker would never say like this, rather say "Entschuldigung für die Verspätung. Ich hatte noch etwas zu tun."

[fervent kernel]

Danke

[long whale]

No, no, whatever gave you that idea? A public reading would be "die/eine Lesung". ;)

[hollow ether]

Maybe public reading isn't the right translation for it. But i was looking at it as an alternative to "Das Vorlesen", and also understood it to be a reading of some sort. Since i remember reading about it before on Duden/dwds

[rocky ice]

hi

when i can start learning german?

???

[charred fog]

right now

[long whale]

Oh, I see! Yes, "das Vorlesen" = the act of reading out loud, e.g. a parent reading a bedtime-story to a child, or a child reading something out loud in class. ;)

[granite spade]

Then there’s the novel Der Vorleser

Der Vorleser liest den anderen etwas vor…

[narrow pier]

Hallo, ( du bringst mich noch um den Verstand ), so this translates to ( You are driving me crazy ), my question is , is the verb here just( sich bringen ) and um den Verstand , means crazy here?

does the meaning of ( You are driving me crazy ), depend on the context? is it like a Positive thing or a negative

?

[latent wadi]

Ich verliere langsam den Verstand

I think its Verstand

@narrow pier

[teal burrow]

kann ich eine frage stellen?

warum gibt es manchmal keine verb endungen in einem satz?

[latent wadi]

Hier dürfen jederzeit Fragen aufgeworfen werden

[teal burrow]

zum beispiel "ich fuehl mich ziemlich schlecht"

[narrow pier]

Danke

[narrow pier]

what does sich bringen mean? cant find it on leo

?

[latent wadi]

https://context.reverso.net/translation/german-english/sich+bringen

[narrow pier]

Wir stehen jetzt von Angesicht zu Angesicht oder lassen wir uns von Angesicht zu Angesicht sprechen

[latent wadi]

Angesicht zu Angesicht ?

[narrow pier]

face to face

are they correct

??

[latent wadi]

(von) Angesicht zu Angesicht

[narrow pier]

yes

[narrow pier]

My teacher said this one, but I did not use the von, my bad

[latent wadi]

ok

i see now what u wroted

ich war verwirrt

[half arch]

I'd not use von tbh

[narrow pier]

are they correct now, or were they correct before?

[narrow pier]

without von sound better to me

[half arch]

Von is grammatically correct tho

Depends on who u are talking to

[teal burrow]

can someone help me?

[inner torrent]

Was genau meinst du? Gib mir bitte ein Beispiel

[teal burrow]

^

danke

[half arch]

'Ich fühl' ist grammatikalisch falsch, wird aber oft umgangssprachlich genutzt

Eigentlich heisst es 'ich fühle'

Die Endungen werden oft nicht benutzt, weil man so schneller sprechen kann

[teal burrow]

ahhhh das macht sinn

aber kann ich es in einem aufsatz benutzen?

oder ware es unnotig?

[inner torrent]

nein in der geschriebenen sprache solltest du immer die korrekten endungen benutzen

[teal burrow]

ich sehe, vielen dank fur die hilfe

[inner torrent]

Kein Problem

[narrow pier]

what do you mean, please?

[inner torrent]

I would use the von because you have here the "von - zu"-construction. But in informal language we sometimes just leave out the "von".

[steel patrol]

Evening!
When would you use "verzehren" instead of just "essen" please?

[inner torrent]

"verzehren" is just more formal than "essen", but it's not used very often anymore

theoretically you could use it every time when you use "essen", but in daily language I wouldn't recommend that

[somber cove]

I never hear it nowadays, honestly. You won't hear that in a casual conversation and you'll have problems finding that verb in formal texts as well

"essen" is just the way to go in this case

[steel patrol]

Is it more along the lines of "to consume"? I came across it in the context of a relatively informal science-themed e-book that said we regularly take in quite a bit of microplastic (through drinking water and other means) without realising or meaning to.

So is it ok then to use it in essays and stuff?

[inner torrent]

Yes it's ok i'd say as a native speaker

But only in very formal texts

Otherwise it sounds strange, noone uses it in informal texts and daily language

[steel patrol]

@inner torrent ok, thanks for clarifying 👍

[inner torrent]

no problem

[nova sparrow]

but there is a 2nd meaning like It eats me up ich verzehre mich nach Deinen Umarmungen (but I don|t get many)...

[somber cove]

Not really in this case; "consume" just translates into "konsumieren". "Verzehren" is something that is done consciously, so in your specific example it shouldn't be used

[steel patrol]

So it "eats me up" im übertragenen Sinne?

[nova sparrow]

👍

[steel patrol]

That's interesting, in that case I'm not quite sure what to make of that book (it is otherwise a bit confusing as well, and not just because my German sucks). 😆

Right, thanks everyone:))

[nova sparrow]

Imho I would write Wir nehmen Micorplastik mit unserer Nahrung auf, because it's not willingly, that we take that part...so Wir nehmen auf instead of verzehren

[steel patrol]

Yeah, that sounds better to me too:)

[nova sparrow]

maybe, just maybe the book was translated and the translator was not very skilled 🤔

[steel patrol]

It's possible. I tried looking up the author to check but didn't find much and otherwise couldn't really tell whether they were German or not.

[somber cove]

Seems so, especially since "verzehren" has a stronger meaning than simply "essen" as well. "verzehren" implies that you eat until nothing is left of your meal, wheras "essen" just implies normal eating. "Verzehren" barely makes any sense in that context

[steel patrol]

So yeah, could just be a less-than-perfect translation.

[wispy raptor]

Omg hai kween

[celest pollen]

die Detuschen **__sind __**sehr __organiesiert __

Why "organiesiert" isn't in Infinitiv?
sind is already conjugated

[tender panther]

organisiert is an adjective

[celest pollen]

Aber sehe ich kein "-t" in der Tabelle

[tender panther]

these endings are only for adjectives that are modifying nouns

you could say "die organisierten Deutschen"

[celest pollen]

There is a table for this, what is the name of this topic I will google it for myself

a so only -t when ...
"these endings are only for adjectives that are modifying nouns"

[tender panther]

-t is not an ending. it's just part of the word organisiert

[celest pollen]

yes but

And my brain is just on fire
Why not infinitif

And what is the rule / table for it

[tender panther]

okay you might be getting stuck on the fact that "organisiert" can be both an adjective and a verb (specifically a third person singular verb, e.g. er organisiert). in your sentence specifically, "sein + infinitive" isn't a valid construct in German so it's unambiguously an adjective

[celest pollen]

Okay, so that's just like
"überrascht
Überraschung "
It `s just the way it is

[tender panther]

pretty much. you have to consider context to determine whether organisiert is an adjective or a verb

oh it's also second person informal plural by the way, as in "ihr organisiert"

[tender panther]

yup there it is

[celest pollen]

But anyway, we used here as an adjective
die Detuschen sind sehr organiesiert

ok Danke für Ihre Mühe

[tender panther]

bitteschön!

[half arch]

Use 'von' when its formal, because its the correct form.
You do not have to use 'von' when you're talking to friends

[charred fog]

is schlitzen only ever used as part of aufschlitzen?

[long whale]

Pretty much, yes. As you can see, DWDS seemed to have problems coming up with an example sentence which didn't use the past participle: https://www.dwds.de/wb/schlitzen :D

[charred fog]

thanks!

[hardy zinc]

Hallo, ist "Viehwirtschafterweiterung" ein normales Wort?

[long whale]

If you happen to be a farmer/student of agriculture, it might be.

[hardy zinc]

I don't

Should I better say Erweiterung von Viehwirtschaft?

[long whale]

Ah. Well, to make the compound noun correct, you'd have to put in an extra S: Viehwirtschaftserweiterung

[hardy zinc]

Alles klar, danke

[icy flax]

Hier hab ich gelesen, dass jene komische Struktur von Nebensätze mit der ungewöhnlichen Stellung des konjugierten Verb nur vorkommt, wenn es um Perfekt/Plusquamperfekt eines Modalverbes geht. Aber im Kopf hatte ich, dass es immer bei Doppelinfinitiv passiert. Was ist richtig hier? Das ist meine Achillesferse im Deutschen 😛

Es ist nötig, weil du selbst eines Tages sie wirst benutzen wollen.
||hoffentlich jetzt merke ich es mir für immer ||

[fervent kernel]

shouldn't wirst be in the end of the sentence?

[long whale]

Yeah, except for the middle bit: ... weil du sie eines Tages selbst wirst benutzen wollen. (and: hoffentlich merke ich es mir jetzt für immer)

[narrow pier]

Nichts zu danken, für die Volks Gesundheit der Menschheit würde ich alles tun ( correct ? )

[long whale]

No. In German, you can not just put 2 nouns next to each other (even less so if you add the -s). However, I would very much advise against using the word Volksgesundheit, I'd just use "Gesundheit" or, better yet, "allgemeine Gesundheit", dropping der Menschheit as well.

[narrow pier]

Weird,

My teacher just sent that voice message,

[long whale]

Your teacher using the word Volksgesundheit is indeed weird. The inappropriate separation is due to the speech converting programme, though.

[narrow pier]

So the correct one, in your opinion is ( Für die Gesundheit or für die allgemeine Gesundheit ) my teacher probably tried to teach us some vocabulary, idk

[long whale]

Best regards to your teacher, Volksgesundheit has more than a little flavour of Nazi-Deutschland about it. 👀

[narrow pier]

Is the wierdness like ( no one is using this or what?? ) I am sorry if I sound rude, But I am not being rude

[narrow pier]

Oh my god

[short condor]

Guten tag everyone, how must I learn verb words? I just always forget words,when learn its.

[narrow pier]

Sussan , I am actually sad, he posted a picture for advertisement in learning German, and some local in mycountry, who has never heard Hitler speaking, said, ( Hey, you look like him )

[narrow pier]

He was very offended, when someone on the internet replied on his anzeige saying, you look like Hitler

[long whale]

Okay, so, for some reason he doesn't know the word is obsolete. Just show him the relevant Wortverlaufskurve on DWDS. ;) https://www.dwds.de/wb/Volksgesundheit

[icy flax]

Danke dir!

[viral jolt]

wie erzeugt die Webseite solche Kurven

[severe rune]

Hallo!
What does 'geht's' mean?

[upbeat fjord]

It means: geht es. In english it is how is it going

[severe rune]

I see, thank you.

[frigid flint]

Could someone please proofread this for me?

Sehr geehrte Frau Meyer,
meine Freunde und ich haben der Zustand des Gartens im Jugendzentrum bemerkt und haben entschieden, neue Pflanze zu planzen und auch richtige Pflege zu geben. Deshalb bitten wir um Ihre Hilfe und wollen fragen, wo wir gutes Pflanzen kaufen und auch wie wir es erhalten.

Viele Grüße
Mario Gruen

This is for the B1 formal, btw.

[inner torrent]

*den Zustand

*neue Pflanzen

*einzupflanzen (statt "zu planzen")

*und auch richtig zu pflegen (statt "und auch richtige Pflege zu geben")

*gute Pflanzen

*wie wir sie erhalten

[inner torrent]

Ansonsten sehr guter Text

[fervent kernel]

Stimmt dieser Satz oder nicht?

Ignore the translation

[inner torrent]

vor ohne ein , setzen, sonst stimmt es

[frigid flint]

I understood the rest of them but not this, shouldn't it be ihn, since Garten is male?

[frigid flint]

Thanks!

[inner torrent]

Oh I thought you related the "es" to the "Blumen". In this case I would write "wie wir den Garten erhalten"

[frigid flint]

Oh, okay, thanks!

[inner torrent]

No problem

[fervent kernel]

Pwease?

[hollow ether]

Someone reacted with a ✅

[wise pendant]

Drop the "uns".

[delicate tiger]

depends on context, works both ways but different meaning

[narrow pier]

für ihre Email, kann man auch sagen " wo wir gute Pflanzen kaufen kann " ?

[fervent kernel]

Vielen Dank

[inner torrent]

können statt kann, du brauchst den Plural

[inner torrent]

Ich hab tatsächlich übersehen, dass du nach "kaufen" ein "können" einfügen solltest. Sorry

[narrow pier]

ich habe auch meine eigenen frage, was bedeutet bitte ( Du rigst mich auf man ! ) ich habe es auf Englisch übersetzen aber ich könnte es nicht verstehen

[charred fog]

da gibt's einen Fehler

es soll "Du regst mich auf, man!" sein

[gloomy sphinx]

ja

[gloomy sphinx]

you getting me angry

[narrow pier]

oh thanks, so its kinda the same as ( du bringst mich noch um den Verstand )

[gloomy sphinx]

quite , you drive me insane

[narrow pier]

obwohl ich keine Weißer bin, hätte ich nicht das N-Wort sagen ( Richtig oder Falsch ?)

[narrow pier]

danke

[gloomy sphinx]

"Obwohl ich kein Weißer bin, hätte ich nicht das N-Wort sagen sollen "

ich hoffe du siehst das sollen am Ende.

[viral jolt]

did you want to mean sth like, [...] i wouldn't have said the N-word

[narrow pier]

I wanted to say ( although I am not white, I do not want to say or would not want to say the The N-Word )

[viral jolt]

ya gochu

[viral jolt]

dann vielleicht ändert dieser Satz die Bedeutung

[viral jolt]

wenn du "wouldn't want" sagen möchtest, benutz wollen statt sollen in Timmers Satz

ich denke das ist in Ordnung

[gloomy sphinx]

the sollen was part of the verb that was missing , have... to ...

[viral jolt]

I'm still unclear then doesnt the sollen imply sth like -> i shouldn't have said the N

[viral jolt]

maybe you can elaborate on this part a bit more? I didn't understand it

[gloomy sphinx]

genau like the should in : I should not have said it only the germen should -> sollen is at the end

[narrow pier]

I wanted to say ( I dont WANT to say it, not I should not ? )

[viral jolt]

jup verstanden. so if he wants to say "wouldn't want to", would replacing the sollen w wollen in your text do it?

[gloomy sphinx]

It would be korrekt but strange

[narrow pier]

so this one is wrong?

soll ich hätte mit würde austauschen

?

[gloomy sphinx]

There are some mistakes in that sentence , small ones but in the sum it is very difficult to me to understand what exactly you wanted to say.

Can you give me the exakt thing in english ?

[narrow pier]

although I am not white, I would prefer not to say The N-Word , ( or I do not want to say it)

@gloomy sphinx

[gloomy sphinx]

Gut : Obwohl ich kein Weißer / keine Weiße bin würde ich das N-Wort nicht sagen.

Es geht auch noch ein Micro genauer :

Obwohl..... , würde ich es vorziehen das N-Wort nicht zu sagen.

[viral jolt]

aso, wie würdest du denn einen Satz mit meiner Bedeutung formulieren?

[gloomy sphinx]

siehe oben

[narrow pier]

weshalb sind ( kein Weißer und keine Weiße unterschiedlich? ) feminin und maskulin?

[gloomy sphinx]

grammatikal gender , yes

I don´t know wether you are a man or a woman

[narrow pier]

oh ok thank you very much

its very strange that it doesnt tell you its true meaning, when you just search for ( das Verziehen or verziehen ) it, says it means ( warping ), but in your context I am sure it means prefer,

[gloomy sphinx]

verziehen-> vanish / warping .vorziehen ( with o) -> prefer

[narrow pier]

oh, my bad,

danke

my car is broken down ----> Mein auto ist kaputt gegangen oder Meines ist kaputt gegangen ? (korrekt?)

[delicate tiger]

my car is broken down -> "Mein Auto ist kaputt"
my car has broken down -> Mein Auto ist kaputt gegangen"

[narrow pier]

ach so, der Unterschied zwischen die ist ( Vergangenheit ) und ( Gegenwart ) , oder?

[gloomy sphinx]

ja

wobei das Auto das in der vergangenheit kaputt gegangen ist in der gegenwart immernoch kaputt sein kann

[tawny prairie]

do the examiners correct you during the speaking examination?

liek are you allowed to ask them questions DURING the speakign examination?

eg if you are unsure of the gender, first you guess one, then you be like "der, die, das..." and look at them questioningly

[sage tendon]

They won’t correct you, just taking/giving you notes like this ->

[latent wadi]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/952693277495279678.webp?size=96&quality=lossless

[tawny prairie]

flsjkadf;klsadjf;aklsjfa

if they ask you something

and you dont know the verb can you say "was bedeutet das"

[tawny prairie]

noooooo how many poitns do you lose if you consistenly get genders wrong

[sage tendon]

[tawny prairie]

❎

[sage tendon]

I don’t think it’s that much

[tawny prairie]

also if you dont know it cna you use ENGLISH LOANWORD LOL

liek "das Bacon"

[sage tendon]

I think mine got annoyed by asking questions like these because I saw somewhere in interwebs it’s ok to ask questions but they were like "we can’t answer these we just examine you"

[tawny prairie]

it porbably differs for each country and examiner

also do you ahev to be formal or can you use fillerwords?

[delicate tiger]

*der Bacon

[viral jolt]

xD very accurate

judging you on a paper in absolute silence

[final marlin]

Du hast 10 Fehler in einem 10 Wörter Aufsatz gemacht. Ansonsten war es sehr gut geschrieben. Jeder Deutscher.

[latent wadi]

lol

[viral jolt]

ja die Deutschen sind immer bekannt, höflich zu sein

[viral jolt]

very little

i talked to a Goethe examiner about this

apparently, at least in my country (there is only one Goethe Institut), they deduct a certain rate for grammar, another for how sensical your words are, your body language and facial expressions (like you can't shouldn't say "I'm happy for you" to your opposite partner in a dead face low voice)

he said minuscule things like articles and akkusativ dativs are forgiven if they know you're speaking confidently and are making sense

[viral jolt]

you can approach fillerwords like you do in the language you're fluent in. if you stutter too much anyone would get annoyed. but being like ummm for a few minutes and then saying a rad sentence is okay

[latent wadi]

where u from

[viral jolt]

the main thing against fillerwords is the time. you're only given like 2-3 mins to talk. and they monitor the time pretty seriously

[viral jolt]

Bangladesch

[latent wadi]

oh wow

[topaz bluff]

Quick question, I often see lots of people say it’s a good idea to find a partner to learn with. I was wondering if anyone else would be willing to have chats or something to share progress and such idk

[tawny prairie]

(like you can't shouldn't say "I'm happy for you" to your opposite partner in a dead face low voice)

omg thanks for sharing that

i will make sure my face is 😭 🙂 😂 😳

[ancient pulsar]

Sie liebte es, ihm zuzuschauen, wie er durch den Himmel flog.
She loved watching him fly through the sky.
though it is fly in english version, we use flog-flew

what is the rule here?

could we use fliegt?

[viral jolt]

very poetic sentence

[elder hamlet]

is there a separate rule for sentences that begins like - When I(person) ......, I(person) ........ ?
for ex: When i went to beach, i played volleyball

Also is this sentence correct? - "wenn ich feiere geburstag, ich esse kuchen"

[viral jolt]

wenn ich meinen Geburtstag feiere, esse ich Kuchen.

[viral jolt]

als ich am Strand war, habe ich Volleyball gespielt.

so you use als/wenn in these cases.

als when it's a fairly one time thing, something that doesn't happen so often

wenn for more frequent ones. like you celebrate your birthday every single

[viral jolt]

if you're a unique "beach-head" bitch who goes to the beach ever so often, and the people around you know that, you could've used wenn in this sentence.

[elder hamlet]

got it!
although why does the verb comes in first position in the 2nd clause (esse ich kuchen, habe ich volleyball gespielt) ???

i think it comes in 3rd position in the first clause too, right?
wenn ich - meinen geburtstag - feiere
als ich - am strand - war

[viral jolt]

not the 3rd position, the last one

there's only null Position and zweite Position ich glaube

anyway

[viral jolt]

both because of the Komma. after a comma usually the verb is there.

[viral jolt]

and here because wenn and als make Nebensätze. here the verb stays at the end

[solemn helm]

Hello! I have a question about cases in temporal clauses.

Imagine a sentence like this:

Nächsten Monat gehe ich nach Afrika.

Now I know Monat is a masculine word, so therefor the adjective Nächst is being declined in Akkusativ.

But... why?

There is no preposition or verb that would force it into any particular case.

Or, let me put a better example that more closely shows the other cases working in the sentance

[final marlin]

http://www.dartmouth.edu/~deutsch/Grammatik/Zeit/Time.html
Read the first point. 🙂

[elder hamlet]

Thanks!

[solemn helm]

Oooh nice, both points are interesting actually.

I've read this kind of thing in books a lot

" Eines Tages wird er alles verstehen. "

Thank you 😁

[granite spade]

How do you intensify ‘gerade’ in the sense ‘just’? Das habe ich gerade gemacht - I just did it, but if I want to be emphatic and say ‘I literally just did it ?

[solemn helm]

Hey, it's me again 😁

I'm wondering about this sentance:

"Könnten Sie mir sagen, was Sie gestern gegessen haben?"

I'm wondering why not "Können"

I know "Könnten" is the subjunctive past, but I don't know why the QUESTION is phrased in past tense.

Können is also subjunctive (it happens to be the same in indicativ and subjuntiv)

[long whale]

Politeness. *was Sie gestern... (unless you mean "they")

[solemn helm]

Is it the same reasoning as things like "Ich hätte gern... etwas"

[long whale]

Yes. And incidentally, the same as in English (could you, would you = more polite) ;)

[solemn helm]

Ok I just checked my verb conjugator and I'm a bit surprised.

I thought that ich habe was indicativ and ich hätte was subjuntive.

But in fact hätte is actually subjuntiv past.

As you pointed out, similar to English in that regard./

[long whale]

2 subjunctives/Konjunktiv forms in German. Konjunktiv I is only used to emphasize somebody else said something (reported speech in formal writing/speaking).

KII is used for hypothetical things and politeness.

[solemn helm]

My conjugator has indicativ, subjuntiv, conditional, and other (participle, imperativ)

Also what's the word-group for these words such as 'indivativ'?

It's not 'case' nor 'tense'

[long whale]

"Mood"

[solemn helm]

I'm also curios how often subjunctive present shows up.

At least for haben it only differs in a few places.

"Du habest einen Hund"

Not even sure what that would mean.

[long whale]

#questions-2 message

[solemn helm]

OK fair, but then I'm wondering which my app is giving me xD

[long whale]

On its own - nothing. You'd never see it. What it would be for is "Er sagte, du habest einen Hund" (He said you had a dog), but you still would not see this form, because, as I said, this is only for formal things where the legal aspect needs to be considered: newspaper articles, the news, court reports, protocols of meetings, etc.

[solemn helm]

Interesting, another random website I looked at also doesn't specify Konjuktiv I and II

Maybe for haben they are the same?

[solemn helm]

Thank you, that's valuable.

So I can continue learning and referencing the past tense when I want to sound polite.

[long whale]

Not past tense, but past subjunctive/Konjunktiv II.

[solemn helm]

Yeah that's what I meant 🙂

Do you happen to know if Konjunktiv I / II refer to specific tenses of the mood?

I'm just still trying to piece together why apps and websites aren't declaring more clearly the difference.

I mean for example Konjunktiv I refers to the subjuntive present, and Konjunktiv II refers to the past (or some other arbitrary split).

[long whale]

The forms of Indikativ and Konjunktiv I often coincide, not just for "haben". This, however does not matter, since Konjunktiv I is not something you'll be required to actively use. Ever. Except in a really high level exam, or if you become a journalist.

Oh, and KI shows up in some fixed expressions, but there aren't that many of those.

[solemn helm]

Or if I read work by a journalist! But more importantly, I just want some confidence when using my translator app.

Reverso.net shows a nice split actually.

So indikativ has six tenses, and the two Konjuktiv moods only have three each -so I think I was... sorta correct.

[long whale]

I said: actively use. It's good to - eventually! - be able to recognize the forms.

[solemn helm]

https://conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-german-verb-haben.html

[long whale]

For translating, use deepl.com

[solemn helm]

Actually it looks like I was wrong, and they each have four each.

I use Linguee, Deepl, and Reverso

For dictionary, translator, and conjugator.

Although Linguee is lately pissing me off because it doesn't show the plural, nor the common verb tenses inline.

I think it's very valuable to see "trinken, trank, habe getrunken", so maybe I will change dictionaries soon.

[solemn helm]

Yeah thank you very much for your help. I wasn't meaning to be stubborn and I don't intend to focus on this 🙂

I was just trying to make sure I didn't learn the wrong thing, when I use my conjugator.

[last bolt]

Im a bit confused with reflexive verbs
Some are easy to learn as they exist only in reflexive form
But others exist in both forms and its these i am confused with

ZB:Die Form einer Amöbe verändert sich ständig

Why cant verändert be used here without the reflexive pronoun

[undone verge]

here it is also pretty logical. If something changes something else, then there's no reflexive pronoun. If something changes itself then there is.

[last bolt]

Ahh now it makes sense

Thanks

[hardy zinc]

Wie sagt man "25.4", as in twenty five point four?

Und wie sagt man "25.5" as in, twenty five and a half?

[tender dagger]

In Germany the convention is to write those numbers with a comma like "25,4" which is read as "Fünfundzwanzig Komma Vier"

[tender dagger]

I would say "Fünfundzwanzig ein halb" although im not sure about the spelling

[hardy zinc]

Danke

[hardy zinc]

btw when it's dot instead of comma (as international format), how do you say it? Do you still use Komma?

[tender dagger]

read it as "Punkt" instead of "Komma"

but usually people will say "Komma"

dots are used for readability, eg. 1.000.000 instead of 1000000 or just 1 000 000

[hardy zinc]

Alright thanks

[granite spade]

'Nächster Tage kamen wir wieder auf diese Gedichte' I'm assuming this is simply the genitive of unspecified time

[long whale]

I'm assuming this is... I'm really not sure. I wouldn't say/write this. It looks quite wrong to me.

[tender dagger]

Looks very poem-ish to me

xd

[granite spade]

It’s from 1920ish, written by Edith Landmann

Actually a search on Google books yields a result from an old (1883) German - English grammar book in that lovely old gothic script: ‘nächster Tage one of these days’

[long whale]

Interesting. I've read lots of books from that time, but I can't remember ever having come across this particular expression.

[granite spade]

Neither had I, hence my confusion 😅

[long whale]

"dieser Tage" is quite normal (and would also be Genitiv), but "nächster Tage"... Oh, well. 😄

[granite spade]

https://www.google.de/books/edition/German_Conversation_grammar/lFgHAAAAQAAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=nächster+tage&pg=PA237&printsec=frontcover

interesting!

heut zu Tage

[long whale]

I did not doubt your word. 😄

[tender dagger]

I dont find it to be that strange tbh

It just sounds like old German to me

But also it's easier to read through with context

[granite spade]

Is dieser Tage 'these days' (like heutzutage) or 'one of these days' like nächster Tage / eines Tages

[long whale]

2nd.

[tender dagger]

Yes 2nd

[granite spade]

So 'dieser Tage' is like the modern version of nächster Tage

[long whale]

Come to think of it, it's not quite like "heutzutage", it's more like "over the next few days", I'd say.

[granite spade]

hmmm....

[tender dagger]

There are subtle differences but the general meaning of "these days" does fit

[long whale]

Well... if you scroll down to "Beispiele... redaktionell geprüft": https://de.pons.com/übersetzung/deutsch-englisch/Tage what you get is "in the next few days" 🤷

[tender dagger]

Für welches Wort

[granite spade]

Right so to recap: dieser Tage refers to the next few days (or laut Pons to the last few days)

eines Tages is 'one day' in general or more specifically in the sense 'an einem der nächsten Tage'

and heutzutage is more 'nowadays' in general

[long whale]

No, no, "dieser Tage" = "in the next few days" (according to me and to Pons, might also mean "lately", depending on context, according to me). "eines Tages" is "one day, some day", but not an einem der nächsten Tage (not as far as I know), and yes, heutzutage = nowadays.

[granite spade]

Okay, wunderbar

[tender dagger]

I wouldn't exactly agree

Dieser Tage for me means a bit more like these days to me

It depends tho

On the specific example

Wait I can't read

I do agree

[narrow pier]

ich bin begeistert auf diese Prüfung und bin echt glücklich dass ich in dieser Prüfung partizieren kann ( korrigiert ihr mich bitte )

[undone verge]

ich freue mich auf/bin gespannt auf diese Prüfung und bin echt glücklich, dass ich an dieser Prüfung teilnehmen kann.

[icy flax]

Wouldn't begeistert also work there, @undone verge? von der Prüfung begeistert?
@narrow pier, I had never read partizieren before.

[narrow pier]

thank you so much, diese sind ganz schöne sätze, aber kann man auch begeistert benützen

[long whale]

Well... you could say "ich bin von der Prüfung begeistert", but it would mean something like "I think the exam is totally great". 🤷

@narrow pier

[undone verge]

It would mean something different and be kinda weird to say about a test, but maybe they're like really taken with it 😂

[simple swift]

partizipieren*

[delicate tiger]

exists, but is almost never used

[narrow pier]

Oh, du hast recht, das habe ich total nicht gemeint,

[narrow pier]

Also, ich habe eine Frage über dieser Satz, ist es normal, diesen Satz zu benützen??

[long whale]

As normal as can be, considering few people are happy about exams, or looking forward to them. ;)

[narrow pier]

Und was ist eigentlich der Unterschied zwischen, ( paritizipieren ) und( teilnehmen )

[narrow pier]

Well I will really be happy

[long whale]

*partizipieren - the difference is, as has already been pointed out, that "teilnehmen" is the verb you'd usually use.

[narrow pier]

Ich bin ehrrlich, ich werde ziemlich froh aud die Prüfung

[long whale]

Spelling apart, this makes little sense, I'm afraid.

[narrow pier]

Also, Die Deutscher benützen häufig ( teilnehmen ) statt ( partizipieren ) für allgemeine Kontexts?

[narrow pier]

I wanted to say ( I will be honest, or to be honest I will be very happy about the upcominh exam oder " I will be very happy about the exam "

[long whale]

viel, viel häufiger, yes

[long whale]

"Ich freue mich sehr auf die Prüfung"

[narrow pier]

By spelling apart, you mean that it has ( Rechtschreibungsfehler )

[long whale]

The verb is "sich auf etwas/jemanden freuen"

[narrow pier]

But I wanted it to be in future

[long whale]

"sich auf etwas freuen" is always for the future.

= I'm looking forward to the exam

[granite spade]

I'm back to cause more trouble: "Die Anschauungen über das Schöne und die Kunst, die sie in systematischen Zusammenhange zu begründen sucht, ergaben sich [blah blah blah]." Even Discord is underlining Zusammenhange in red. Is it a typo/grammar problem? It has the Dative-E but the adjective is not declined correctly.

[long whale]

Yeah, typo: systematischem

[granite spade]

Danke!

[icy flax]

Du vergisst auch den Umlaut: Zusammenhänge

Plural Dativ obliges the -en at the end also.

in systematischen Zusammenhängen (isnt it?)

[icy flax]

If Escapades writes in singular, the -e at the end of Zusammenhange must disappear, isnt it?

[long whale]

It is, however, far more likely to be a wrong ending than a totally wrong plural. ;)

[icy flax]

Verstehe

[long whale]

It is from an old book, from the times when Dativ -e was still a thing.

[granite spade]

lmao actually it's not, this time it's from a recent scholarly publication, nämlich the Stefan George Handbuch

[long whale]

😄

In that case...

[granite spade]

It's definitely meant to be a dative singular though, a quick google search there gives results about a 'systematischer Zusammenhang' in Kant's aesthetics, which is related to the topic being discussed in the SG Handbuch

[narrow pier]

Danke, Das macht Sinn👍

[gleaming sedge]

sich auf etwas freuen. f = future. to look forward to
sich über etwas freuen. ü = happy face. to be happy about

[tawny prairie]

ist es moeglich, "es gibt das Laechlen" sagen?

[tawny prairie]

https://lets-learn-german.com/

this site is porbably the best resource i have used

is there a similar one for B1 - C2?

[long whale]

Depends on context. When asked to enumerate instances of non-verbal communication, somebody might say "Es gibt das Lächeln, das Nicken, das Kopfschütteln..." Otherwise, I don't think so, no. ;)

[narrow pier]

die Robotmesse in Deutschland ist nur im Dezember geöffnet ( korrigiert ihr mich bitte )

[viral jolt]

seems okay

[long whale]

Well, it's a yearly event, right? So, you'd use "stattfinden" (separable), "to take place". Because "geöffnet sein" is what you'd use for a place which was always there, like a beach restaurant only open during the summer months, for example. See the difference?

[narrow pier]

yes i get your point,

thank you

[narrow pier]

so it would be( die Robotmesse in Deutschland findet im Dezember statt )

[long whale]

Typo alarm - the preposition for Dezember was correct before...

[narrow pier]

and for a restaurant ( Das Restaurant würde nur am Samstags geöffnet )

[long whale]

Why "würde"?

[narrow pier]

yes ( im Dezember, thanks )

[narrow pier]

idk really, i really like that verb, but I have not really studied it

[narrow pier]

Das Restaurant ist nur am Samstags geöffnet ) jetzt richtig, oder?

[long whale]

Yes.

[narrow pier]

Thank you so much ( Wenn du mir die Frage gesttaten, bist du ein Deutscher?? weil du bist extrem gut in jedem Teil des Spraches )

[long whale]

Oops, something wrong here am Samstags doesn't work - try again? - All yellow people are German native speakers. ;)

[narrow pier]

Das Restaurant ist nur Samstags geöffnet , what about now??

[long whale]

samstags - yes, exactly. ;)

[narrow pier]

was für ein Schönes Detail

[narrow pier]

I love your way of correcting people, asking them questions till they correct themselves,

[charred harbor]

All yellow people are German native speakers
I will never watch The Simpsons the same way again

[narrow pier]

zur Zeit unser Büro ist nicht besetz ( at the moment our office is not occupied ) does this simply apply that that their office is closed or they mean that it has not been opened yet, ??

oder Sie schauen persönlich bei uns vorbei ( is sich schauen akk oder dativ, ? )

[long whale]

I don't quite understand what it is you don't understand? You've got the translation. 🤷

BTW, word order is all wrong: Verb in Pos 2, remember? And also, it's *besetzt

[long whale]

Why would it be reflexive here?

[craggy widget]

@night dagger

[hardy zinc]

Wisst ihr einige Webseite, wo ich Filme mit Untertiteln schauen kann? A2-B1

(Es muss frei sein; velleicht Youtube oder....)

z. B. es gibt "die Fixies" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4NPFh5zwzc, es ist nicht zu schwierig zu verstehen, aber seine Untertiteln sind sehr ungenau (sie sind automatisch gemacht)

[chilly heart]

hello

i have question

how do i ask a stranger where a street is

in german

[fervent kernel]

Hallo können Sie mir bitte sagen wo diese Straße ist.

Oder

Hallo können Sie mir bitte sagen wie ich zu dieser Straße komme.

[final marlin]

Über welche Straße möchten Sie denn Bescheid wissen?

[fervent kernel]

Wo ist denn die Karl-Marx Allee

[chilly heart]

vielen dank

[fervent kernel]

Kein Problem.

[latent wadi]

@tawny prairieu really c level?

[plain umbra]

No, they're level B and just pressed the wrong button but I fixed it now.

[latent wadi]

ok ich war verwirrt danke

[gentle fox]

Auf Japans Ex-Regierungschef Abe ist bei einem Wahlkampfauftritt geschossen geworden.

Can someone explain the tense behind the above sentence, geschossen is past participle, but geworden is confusing

@long whale

[nimble viper]

I've never seen geworden used with another verb; for me it reads 'Japans Ex-head of government became shot at a campain appearance'.... I would assume it should be 'worden'