questions-2

[mellow nova]

[steel patrol]

Ok

[fervent kernel]

Is it something bad?

[steel patrol]

Depending on who said this to you and in what circumstance xD

[worldly portal]

Guten Abend! Warum ändert sich der Kasus des Reflexivpronomens zwischen diesen Sätzen?

Ich sehe mich im Spiegel an.
ich sehe mir den Film an.

Wegen "in" ?

[wise pendant]

The Akkusativ and Dativ case just merged in English, but German has still this separation:
I hope this makes it clearer:

Substantiv: ich - actor (english I)
Akkusativ: mich - direct target (english me)
as in "You don't like me"
Dativ: mir - just reference to the actual focus (english me)
as in: "You help me (do something)"
Genetiv: mein - possession (english mine/my)

Ich wasche mich und mir meine Haare - literal. translation: I wash me and me my hair

You know by the used words and preposition which case applies.

[worldly portal]

Achso!

[wise pendant]

Ich sehe mich im Spiegel an - I watch at myself in the mirror
Ich sehe mir den Spiegel an - Ich look in the mirror (by myself)

[worldly portal]

Danke dir 🙏

[wise pendant]

It's more complex than that, but that's the general Idea

[viral jolt]

great explanation, cleared up some fundamentals for me

[viral jolt]

the second sentence is a bit confusing.. is it actually something you'd say as a native german? because I'm finding it a bit confusing..

[mellow nova]

sich (dativ) etwas (akkusativ) ansehen/anschauen/angucken is to look at something

very common yes

[viral jolt]

ansehen is a dative verb?

[mellow nova]

no the sich is dativ

ich sehe mir... an
du siehst dir... an

etc etc

i edited it maybe that helps

[viral jolt]

in that case shouldn't the first sentence have been Ich sehe mir im Spiegel an

[fervent kernel]

No

[mellow nova]

no because the object is mich

youre seeing yourself

[fervent kernel]

^

Was siehst du? Du siehst dich
Wo siehst du dich? Du siehst dich im Spiegel

[mellow nova]

the an isn't really needed there tbh but it was just to show the difference ig

[viral jolt]

mhmm got it now

[icy flax]

Mit diesem Satz als Beispiel

Man sieht durch das Rücksichtglas, dass du am/auf dem/im Handy warst
Wenn da eine dieser Präpositionen stände, würdes sowas bedeuten?

1. "am": wurdest beim Benutzen des Handys erwischt
2. "auf dem": angemeldet gesehen;
3. "im": so tief darauf kozentriert, dass du, bildlicherweise ausgedruckt, innerhalb des Geräts warst

[long whale]

What is "Rücksichtglas"? 🤔

[potent cloud]

Rückspiegel? Würde ich vermuten 🤷‍♀️

[long whale]

And I wouldn't use "im" or "auf dem". :)

[fervent kernel]

Hello, I've made up a sentence on my own, I wonder how would you translate it into English in your own words.
What kind of a meaning does this sentence give to you?
Eine Gesellschaft entwickelt sich, wenn die alte Männer pflanzen die Bäume, unter deren Schatten, sie wissen, dass sie niemals sitzen können werden.

[night dagger]

der Nebensatz mit "wenn" ist falsch.

[fervent kernel]

Welcher Teil besonders?

Ach, meinst du das konjugierte Verb?

[night dagger]

das Verb, jup.

[fervent kernel]

So wie ist er als folgende,
Eine Gesellschaft entwickelt sich, wenn die alte Männer die Bäume pflanzen, unter deren Schatten, sie wissen, dass sie niemals sitzen können werden. ?

[night dagger]

sieht gut aus

[fervent kernel]

Danke,

Ich versuchte diese Bedeutung, "A society develops, when the old men plant trees, under whose shades, they know that they'll never be able to sit."

[mellow nova]

It would have to be die alten Männer, but aside from that, it should probably not have an article period unless you are talking about some specific old men. Overall I think it should be "Eine Gesellschaft entwickelt sich, wenn (ihre?) alte Männer Bäume pflanzen, obwohl sie wissen, dass sie nie in deren Schatten sitzen werden."

[fervent kernel]

The "shades" should come right after the trees to intensify the meaning - I guess.

Plus, it's just the "old men", not someone specifically old men in the context. It refers to the relatively older ones compared to youngsters in the society and how they just do their best (planting trees) to leave a good country to the old men of the future, today's children.

Thanks for the help anyways 🙂

[mellow nova]

The definite article doesn't work with what you're trying to say 🤷‍♂️

[fervent kernel]

• Bäume pflanzen, in/unter deren Schatten, might not be like this?

[mellow nova]

well if you don't trust my corrections (which is nbd 🤷‍♂️ ) try posting it a little later when the actual Germans are awake

it's like 3 am rn

[fervent kernel]

Yeah 4 AM for me 🙂

[mellow nova]

👍

[fervent kernel]

Also, I'd like to say, there shall be no contrast-like binding like "obwohl".

Every word shall be specifically picked to ensure that those old men do it willingly.

Anyways - gone too deep in symbolism, maybe.

[mellow nova]

'shall'? obwohl doesn't imply anything like that

in fact it quite literally implies that they're doing it willingly

they do x while knowing they'll never do y

[fervent kernel]

No, I mean, they do it, as if they shouldn't but although, they've done it.

[mellow nova]

I'm sorry that sentence really doesn't make sense 😅

[fervent kernel]

When you put the obwohl there, it seems like this. Those men have done something, although they were not supposed or forced to or even further as if they had to make sacrifice.

[mellow nova]

Again, that's not at all what it implies. But like I said: if you don't trust me, you're welcome to ask after you wake up "tomorrow" (today) and there are natives here

[fervent kernel]

I say that obwohl may be perceived that way. In original English sentence, there is also no such binding.

Anyways, good night for now.

I am braindead.

[spiral niche]

"Der Schlüssel" means "key" n "Die Schüssel" means "bowl".
"Die Schüssel ist für den Tisch."

❓ Do they have commons?
❓ The sentence doesn't make sense according to the meaning of "Die Schüssel"?

[long meadow]

the bowl is for the table?

wdym by commons, theyre 2 different words

[spiral niche]

I thought there might be commons since they're similar to eachother

Appreciated

[swift bough]

you mean commonalities?

@spiral niche

"common" is not really a noun afaik

even if it is it makes no sense here

[spiral niche]

yea same

[swift bough]

btw idk if it is regional but I feel like in Germany whenever people said bowl I usually heard "Schale"
is there an actual difference between Schale and Schlüssel

[long meadow]

i think Schale is flatter than Schuessel

Schale would be used for fruits and stuff for example

this would be Schale

and Schuessel

[swift bough]

the bottom one can be both?

[long meadow]

i dont think so

[swift bough]

well like

When I look up Schale, on google images it brings up images of all sizes though

not just a flat one

[long meadow]

maybe it can but i havent heard it here

[swift bough]

around where are you form

from

[long meadow]

berlin but i grew up in bayern

[swift bough]

oh ok

[long meadow]

actually i think i might have heard schale for the deeper one in bayern

[swift bough]

because my study abroad was in Niedersachsen which is not really that close to either of those places, closer to berlin ig but yea

[long meadow]

its such an insignificant difference ppl probably say both words for them lmao

i dont think anyone is gonna be like NO THATS A SCHALE

[swift bough]

yeah that's what I was thinking to myself but you never know, for some people there may really be some difference

[long meadow]

yeah maybe

there is the word "Obstschale"

but some of these look deep too

[swift bough]

it kinda reminds me of a Becher vs Tasse, I think people have different ideas of each but in Germany I feel like they still got used interchangeably sometimes

[long meadow]

lmaoo

well Becher r usually made of plastic and stuff

[spiral niche]

I consider all of them as Teller

[swift bough]

I mean I'm somewhat complaining because in English it's so simple, it's just cup and bowl

I guess there is also "mug" but ye

@long meadow see what I mean

someone save me from German

[long meadow]

hahaha

[swift bough]

so basically it almost doesn't matter

because even for Germans it is different

depending on the region

[long meadow]

AAAAA this is hurting my brain

[swift bough]

I guess it just matters which region you live in, then you use that. But for me I can only maintain my German level on the internet since I do not live in a German speaking place

So then it matters who I talk to

And not where I am

[swift bough]

ye same

[long meadow]

but i think it would be weird to call a plastic cup "Tasse"

i dont think anyone would say that

Tasse is something i imagine made out of Porzellan or wtv and u can drink tea out of it

its so funny to see what kind of questions and topics people always bring up in here,,, its stuff i never really think about and when i do think ab it i dont know really know the answer myself LOL

so confusing

[swift bough]

sometimes people ask me questions about English too and I don't know how to answer it, so ik what you mean

and it is always things you never think about, of course

[long meadow]

yeah, very interesting to see though

[swift bough]

I think I still don't really get it. It's too specific and different depending where you are

I mean

I remember in a cafe in Germany usually the coffee is served in cups without a handle, which sort of just adds to the confusion because in the USA where I am from, usually you do drink coffee from a cup with a handle

[long meadow]

the more i think about it the more confusing it gets

[swift bough]

hold on

where I am from this is what you usually drink coffee from...what would you call this based on intuition @long meadow

[long meadow]

Tasse

[swift bough]

also another question

don't you have that kind of cup in Germany?

[long meadow]

ofc we do

[swift bough]

I mean

it seems like a caffees it often had no handle

which is strange for me because here, you always have it with a handle

not just sometimes

[long meadow]

wouldnt u burn ur hands that way

maybe it was just that one cafe

sadistic workers

[swift bough]

idk

I think maybe it was made to absorb heat or something like that

so then what about a cup like this is this also a Tasse

because it is shorter

so idk

[long meadow]

yes also Tasse

this would be used for coffee

[swift bough]

so Tasse always has a handle or something

[long meadow]

yeah

and its

Porzellan

or "Steingut"

idk the english words lmao

[swift bough]

ok so like

it's ok I know what you mean lmao

[long meadow]

handles

[swift bough]

since this has a handle...but is not made of Porcelain, while also being tall, what dafuq is it called

[long meadow]

so many handles

hmmmmmmmmm

[swift bough]

Tasse-Becher

[vast thorn]

what's the difference between stimmt and doch?

[long meadow]

LOL

[vast thorn]

arent Stimmt, ich esse jeden Tag Obst and Doch, ich esse jeden Tag Obst the same thing?

[long meadow]

is that like a Thermos thing

[long meadow]

doch is like when someone is saying "Du isst nie Obst"
and then ur arguing like DOCH, i do

[swift bough]

yeah it basically is something you use to take coffee with you in the car or something, so that you don't verschütten it (also it keeps it warm)

[long meadow]

Stimmt = that's right

[vast thorn]

ahh

i see

so doch = no, i do(n't) and stimmt = yes, i do(n't)

[long meadow]

"so that you don't verschütten it"

[swift bough]

LOL yep

[vast thorn]

spill

lol

[swift bough]

I mean you guys do it with English words...now you see how weird it is when you are on the other side of it

😂

[long meadow]

i just remembered the word "Thermoskanne"

more words

[swift bough]

hmmm

so that is what you would call it then

[long meadow]

maybe it can be called Thermosbecher or something

no i think

[swift bough]

so even though it has a handle

it is Becher

[long meadow]

thermoskanne is different

[swift bough]

ah

I see what you mean

so that is like for serving it

[vast thorn]

1 more question, is there a rule for how often you do it between stimmt and doch? (are you not able to say ie. jeden monat for stimmt)

[long meadow]

yeah

[vast thorn]

or are the examples just there

[swift bough]

If I am hurting your brain I am sorry, mine is also in pain @long meadow

[long meadow]

haahaha its fine

[swift bough]

these are the things I think about every time I drink coffee here

[long meadow]

not really

[vast thorn]

so those are just examples

i see

thank you

[long meadow]

no problem

[swift bough]

wait are you also native russian @long meadow

[long meadow]

yes

[vast thorn]

for the first one, is Doch, ich mache jeden tag Gymnastik a good sentence

[swift bough]

that's a pretty cool combo tbh German and Russian native

[long meadow]

yes

[vast thorn]

agreed

[long meadow]

thanks :D

[vast thorn]

do you have any polish blood?

[swift bough]

I know a guy who is German, Russian, and English native

[long meadow]

no

[vast thorn]

o

[long meadow]

thats cool

where do they live?

in the us?

[vast thorn]

a lot of the eastern europeans i talk to know a lot of european languages

compared to western europe

[swift bough]

They grew up in Germany till they were 14. At home their parents spoke Russian/English and not German, because his mom is Russian native but his dad is English native. And then he moved to the US when he was 14.

[long meadow]

well russian is very similar to a lot of languages in eastern europe so i would be able to understand some stuff

[long meadow]

ooh thats rly cool

[swift bough]

I find stories like that kinda fascinating

[long meadow]

i admire parents who teach their children all the languages they know, i would be devastated if i didnt know how to speak russian w my family

[swift bough]

He actually said because of this experience, he doesn't even know if he has a true native language

[long meadow]

there are some families who dont even bother teaching their children

and then they just grow up not understanding anything

[long meadow]

interesting

[swift bough]

my old German teacher is not native German but he raises his kids speaking both English and German

[long meadow]

thats nice

[swift bough]

I know what you mean...it makes me wish my heritage languages didn't stop being taught to the children

[long meadow]

its really easy to learn when youre a kid too, kids absorb everything like sponges its really cool

[swift bough]

Theoretically I could have also been a German and Swedish heritage speaker but nope because my parents didn't speak those to me since they don't speak them but like my Grandpa was German native

[long meadow]

i didnt know how to speak german in kindergarten and i learned it in like 2-3 months just from talking to the kids there

[long meadow]

aww

does your grandpa speak german?

[swift bough]

I always wondered if it is difficult though because you would think kids would mix up the vocab for multiple languages

but somehow it doesn't work out like that

[long meadow]

yeah

[swift bough]

I mean not by the time they are grown up

[true igloo]

und....

[swift bough]

Well so his parents were both native speakers and he learned to speak it till he was 5. Then he was not getting good grades in school because he was growing up here and not in Germany

so he did not understand English at school

and then at home they just stopped speaking German because of this

before he passed, he could understand some of it, but not all of it and def could not speak it. #Verlernt

[long meadow]

ooh i see

swedish is a really cool language too

very similar to german too ofc

[swift bough]

Yeah

[true igloo]

aber ganz anders

[swift bough]

I was watching a vid recently about whether natives of other Germanic languages can understand German and it's really fascinating how much they can understand just because of the languages being related.

And one of them was a Swede

[true igloo]

Welches Video?

[swift bough]

Although...swedish is way more different from German than Dutch is, at least when spoken

[spiral niche]

Why is it Dat.?
"Dem Kind schmeckt das Essen nicht."

[swift bough]

ich zeigs dir

[long meadow]

Wem schmeckt das Essen nicht? Dem Kind

[spiral niche]

Couldn't it be Das kind schmeck...?

[swift bough]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3tOGE3rNCs @true igloo

[long meadow]

no

[true igloo]

Danke

[long meadow]

they also did smth like that with slavic languages

rly cool

[spiral niche]

German being weird

Now all I learnt, I doubt

[true igloo]

warten Sie einfach, bis Sie es fließend sprechen.

[swift bough]

yeah although it's also way more fun to watch if you understand at least one of the languages in those kinds of videos. Otherwise you will be so lost

[long meadow]

yeah

[swift bough]

I've heard all three of those languages are really easy to pickup if you know German or English, or both. I might try Swedish eventually

[long meadow]

swedish is really fun to learn, ive learned some of it and its very cool to see all the similarities

u should def try learning it

[swift bough]

I mean some might say it is not a good choice because it has very little speakers but practicality isn't even why I learned German, it's because it's just fun. Also I have Swedish cousins.

Theoretically have distant German family too but we don't know where they live exactly

This is so off-topic now...I always forget I am in the questions channel when unrelated topics come up.

[true igloo]

es ist okay. wir alle machen Fehler. keine Sorgen.

[long meadow]

hahaha its fine

well yeah just do things for fun, i dont think it matters that not a lot of people speak it, that makes it only cooler if u know how to speak it

im gonna go to sleep now though! gute nacht, was nice talking to you :)

[swift bough]

tbh yeah, so true

[swift bough]

yeah same, gn

[junior flame]

What's the difference between "dürfen nicht" and "müssen nicht"?

[heavy viper]

i was reading a post in german about borderline personality and i came across this sentence:

"Ein typisches Verhaltensmuster ist Aggressivität anderen"

why is it "Aggressivität anderen"?? shouldn't a preposition be placed in between?

[swift bough]

it's because it's in genitive

it is omitting "eines" "eines anderen"

as far as I can tell

[potent cloud]

dürfen nicht:to not be allowed to
müssen nicht: don't have to

[potent cloud]

Wait does it not mean something like, A typical pattern of behavior is (considered as) aggresiveness (from someone else) -> dativ mask or plural

Maybe I am really sleep deprived

[swift bough]

yeah exactly

like when you say
der andere / die anderen it often just refers to people

especially in this context it's made pretty clear that people are meant since inanimate objects aren't typically aggressive

lmao

[potent cloud]

so not genitiv? 🤔

[swift bough]

?

no it still is

I don't know what you mean

have you never seen this type of construction before?

[potent cloud]

Maybe not..

[swift bough]

Idk if it has a specific name

[potent cloud]

I mean it being omitted

[swift bough]

but you can omit it like that sometimes

like idk how you would go about finding a resource that explains it

but I have seen it numerous times myself 🤷‍♂️

[potent cloud]

Can you write another example?

With that construction?

[swift bough]

I don't know if I can, I've only seen it, not used it myself 😂

I can try finding another example though

on dwds or something

[potent cloud]

Ah wait, I thought about it and it makes sense

I got myself confused, I thought that it meant that it is considered aggressive from someone else, that is what anderen meant. But it means aggresiveness of someone else, so genitiv,

okay got it

[swift bough]

the problem with DWDS is it doesn't give you the exact declination of stuff...like I tried typing in "anderen Vorschlags" and it brings up examples with all sorts of different endings for andere

hard to find

I just know it exists though

[potent cloud]

It does make sense

Just needed to burn a couple braincells 👍

[swift bough]

yeah it means more like "of another" not really "of someone else"

[potent cloud]

yeah yeah

of another(person) as you said

[swift bough]

so have you actually seen that construction before then?

[potent cloud]

I guess so, it was just the omission that threw me off

[swift bough]

oh it's not really common

especially not in speech

but you can find it in literature and formal texts

[potent cloud]

Would it work like this:

-Ist das deine Tasche?
-Nein, das ist die Tasche eines anderen

? Not the perfect example, I know probably no one would say it like that, but just to make sure I understood

[swift bough]

grammatically yeah

but obv that is something you would just use von with when speaking

[potent cloud]

yeah

[swift bough]

or just like "ne" LOL

[potent cloud]

nö

[swift bough]

I've heard nö can sometimes come across passive aggressive

[potent cloud]

I've heard so too, but I think teens just use it whenever

[swift bough]

but idk do not have real life experience with it, only heard it

I think it's kinda funny because you think it's from english "no" but afaik it's more like an exaggerated "ne"

[potent cloud]

ne in greek means yes

[swift bough]

Lol

has that ever confused you for half a second before

[potent cloud]

ne

[swift bough]

i mean maybe it is not even pronounced the same i have no idea

[potent cloud]

okay i got unmuted

In greek it is a really short e

[swift bough]

I feel like in German it can be long or short depending on someone's mood

[potent cloud]

https://de.forvo.com/search/ναι/

[swift bough]

the e is not even the same sound it seems to me

[potent cloud]

μαζβε

lol

maybe

[swift bough]

i mean if you said ne like that in german you might get weird looks or people would not even understand

so hopefully you don't get confused

[potent cloud]

it's kinda like né

🤷‍♀️

[swift bough]

you can look up IPA on wiktionary except i can't write in greek so idk how to look that up

[potent cloud]

No I don't, I am used to it now

[swift bough]

oh I just realized

when you say "ne" as a shortened "eine" it is basically the same as that greek work

lol

[potent cloud]

/ˈne/

does that help?

[ˈaɪ̯nə] that's eine, so it's different

[swift bough]

that feel when Wiktionary has no IPA listed for it

anyway got an essay to write so ima head out

[potent cloud]

Viel Glück damit!

[wet dragon]

umm

[rose crater]

it's liebt

[long whale]

FYI, and if you'd like to bug your teacher, tell them this doesn't work: ... liebt seine Freundin sehr viel

[shut briar]

Für Unterdrücker gab es Religiöse Führer, Könige, Kaiser, Diktator und jetzt gibt es Informatikunternehmen. Wer heute die Information hat, besitzt die Macht

I wrote this in my class today but my teacher says the first sentence is wrong

He explained why but I didn't understand

Wouldn't the first sentence be how you answer the question was für?

[long whale]

Your teacher was right. I mean, your sentence is saying kings and emperors are there for the oppressors, or that oppressors use religious leaders, kings, emperors (and btw, you've only got 1 dictator there). That's not what you wanted to say, is it?

Look at 7. here: https://de.pons.com/übersetzung/deutsch-englisch/als

[shut briar]

Aah i see. I just meant in history there were many kinds of oppressors, and these are the various types

So you can't really answer was für by für

[long whale]

This... 🤔 No. Since I don't understand what you mean. 🤷

But did you check n°7 in the link I gave you?

[shut briar]

Oh I was gonna ask if that's for me. It's about als?

Sorry i don't see what you're trying to point

Oh you mean i should write als unterdrücker

[long whale]

in the way of oppressors -> as oppressors

Yes!

:)

[shut briar]

Ah klar

[long whale]

Would you mind trying again to explain what you meant?

[shut briar]

Was für Suppe gibt es heute?
Für Suppe haben wir Tomaten und Zwiebel

That's what i was trying to do. I don't know if it's right or not, i guess i just assumed it was

[long whale]

Ehh - no. The question is correct, mind you. But "was für [ein/e/n]?" = what kind of?

But the answer doesn't work.

I mean, in this case, you'd just answer sth like "Heute gibt es Tomatensuppe" or simply "Tomaten-Zwiebelsuppe". But if your question were "Was für ein Hauptgericht gibt es heute?" (What's the main dish today?), the answer might be "Als Hauptgericht gibt es heute [dish name]"

[shut briar]

Ach so

[long whale]

(As a/the main dish, we're going to have...)

[shut briar]

I shouldn't assume,😅

Thank you 🙏

[long whale]

You're welcome, as always. I hope it helped. :)

[shut briar]

It totally did 💯

[narrow pier]

hi guys, How do you say I don't give a rats Azz ( something like this in German)

[final marlin]

Es ist mir egal.
Or Mir ist es egal.

[shut briar]

Is grundsätzlich as common as basically?

Basically, basically can be used anywhere

[icy flax]

Rückspiegel hehe, sorry!

[icy flax]

ja dat!

[icy flax]

Danke schön, Susana!

[long whale]

I think we use "grundsätzlich" more like "fundamental/ly" - so, not as often, I suppose. I think we'd rather use "im Grunde" or "eigentlich" where you'd use "basically". :)

[shut briar]

If the second sentence agrees with the first one we can't use eigentlich right? But im grunde is nice. It's actually the same mafia example. Also

Also Im Grunde müssen wir rausfinden, wer lügt

[long whale]

That sounds fine. :)

[cerulean plinth]

hallo leute bitte

was bedeutet bewirkte

[jagged steppe]

Hi! Which is better, ‘Anfälligkeit für’ or ‘Anfälligkeit gegenüber’ ?

[noble yacht]

It's the past of 'bewirken'. You can look it up ^^

[noble yacht]

For me, both sound fine in general. Can you give me a full sentence to decide between one of them? ^^

[hardy zinc]

Hi. So, ich habe einen Teilsatz: "Einer der beiden Mitreisenden fragt beim Aussteigen:", den ich nicht verstehe.

Hier ist "Einer" ein Artikel als Ersatz? Wenn so, warum benutzt man "der" hier? Meint "beiden" "both" => Plural, oder?

[undone verge]

einer = singular masculine (Mitreisende(r)).
der in this case is genitiv plural. --> der beiden Mitreisenden (pl.)
it is similar to in english saying one (singular) of the travelers(pl).

one of the two passengers/'with-travelers' asked upon deboarding...

[hardy zinc]

Ohhhh

I see, thanks

[long whale]

For this kind of thing, reading the example sentences on DWDS is usually quite helpful: https://www.dwds.de/wb/Anfälligkeit :)

[jagged steppe]

Thanks!

[jagged steppe]

Thanks!

I think both work for Erkrankungen right?

[long whale]

Yes. :)

[thorn zodiac]

Ive seen some germans write and say "yeahr" but I have no idea why this is, anyone know?

[proven sphinx]

What? Do you have any clue in what contexts it's used?

That sounds more like English "yeah" than any German word.

Are you sure you aren't mishearing "hier"?

[thorn zodiac]

No they write it as well, I think its supposed to be like the English version but I don't get why the r is added. Here a few examples I found from the server:

"Einf zum spass verlassen yeahr"

"Meine Tacticas werden gegen mi angewendeart yeahr"

[proven sphinx]

That must be some slang term I'm too old to understand. 😂

It sounds pretty much like you'd use "hier", though. I think it's just some comical misspelling of that word.

[thorn zodiac]

When they start using slang and memes my understanding usually drops super hard so yeah probably

[proven sphinx]

It seems to be some TikTok thing.

[thorn zodiac]

Oh no 🤢

[visual plank]

what does the 'ja' mean in this sentence?

[night dagger]

it's a modal particle

here it means that the speaker and the person they are talking to both know

[proven sphinx]

German has a lot of these so-called modal particles, and they can't usually be directly translated into English.

[visual plank]

huh, I didn't know modal particles existed, thanks so much!

[proven sphinx]

https://www.deutsch-perfekt.com/deutsch-lesen/was-bedeuten-die-modalpartikeln

Here's a summary of them.

[visual plank]

thank you!

[fervent kernel]

guys i rlly need help

[proven sphinx]

What is your question?

[fervent kernel]

Spæter ging ich in der Stadt

is that correct?

[proven sphinx]

"Später ging ich in die Stadt"

It's accusative because of the movement.

[fervent kernel]

thank u so much!

"Es begann damit, dass ich mit der Bus nach Ystad." Im confused about this sentence too.

or is it "dem Bus"

[viral jolt]

it's missing a verb

that you with the bus what

[viral jolt]

and yeah it'll be mit dem Bus

[fervent kernel]

"It started with i took the buss to Ystad" (im danish so it mind sound a little weird on english tho)

[fervent kernel]

Thanks, i was not 100% sure

[viral jolt]

you want to say, it started with you taking the bus to Ystad?

[fervent kernel]

yes

[viral jolt]

Es begann damit, dass ich einen Bus nach Ystad nahm

[fervent kernel]

thank you so much!

[muted delta]

Can someone help me with something in German ?

[hardy zinc]

Ask your question, don't ask to ask

Ist das korrekt? "Hast du sichergestellt, dass sie ihre Hausaufgabe gemacht hat?"

Wb this one: "Ich ziele darauf, dass ich eine gute Note bekomme"

Also wb diese:

1. Beim Sitzen lese ich
2. Ich habe es mithilfe meiner Freundin gemacht

[swift bough]

All of them are perfectly fine. One piece of feedback tho: I think for the second one zielen prolly isn't the most common choice, but makes sense, nonetheless.

[hardy zinc]

well nice

[swift bough]

Also I think it would sound nicer like this "Ich ziele darauf, eine gute Note zu bekommen"

[hardy zinc]

Oh I see, but then it's not Nebensatz, right?

[swift bough]

I don't think so

since it doesn't use a conjunction

could be wrong tho

[hardy zinc]

Also ist das auch korrekt:
"Möglicherweise ist es sonnig morgen"

[swift bough]

switch the places of sonnig and morgen

then yeah

[hardy zinc]

Hmm

Why? Is mine wrong or just awkward?

[swift bough]

probably both

def awkward

[hardy zinc]

I see

[swift bough]

well maybe think about it with an adjective you hear a lot

[hardy zinc]

Möglicherweise ist es morgen sonnig

Ah

wait

idk we say "possibly it's sunny tomorrow"

[swift bough]

if you said "möglicherweise ist es sonnig jeden Tag" see how weird that sounds ?@hardy zinc

[hardy zinc]

Honestly it sounds perfectly fine for me XD

[swift bough]

o

ok nevermind that then xD

Well there is a certain order that things are supposed to go in a sentence

There's some weird abbreviation for this some people use to help them

takamolo or some shit

[hardy zinc]

._.

[swift bough]

I never used it so

[hardy zinc]

So morgen/jeden Tag is like an adverb here?

[swift bough]

I can just tell you it sounds better that way

and yeah they both are

[hardy zinc]

"es ist morgen sonnig"

"ist wann? ist morgen"

[swift bough]

I am not sure about "morgen" but "jeden Tag" is more specifically called a "phrasal adverb"

you could look into that ig

[hardy zinc]

I see

[swift bough]

they work the same in terms of their position though in the sentence

[swift bough]

yeah see that sounds way better than if you had it the other wawy

way

I'm not sure how often you would even see a sentence like this though, just a warning, because it would more likely be said like "Morgen wird es sonnig sein"

"Tomorrow it'll be sunny"

[hardy zinc]

Hmmm yeah true

[charred harbor]

Seems I got beaten to it

[swift bough]

that is a more colloquial version you can say too, like omitting the sein

[hardy zinc]

"Möglichweise wird es morgen sonnig sein" ?

[swift bough]

I just try to not overcomplicate the explanation

[swift bough]

yeah, exactly

[hardy zinc]

btw if we omit "sein" won't it mean, literally translating, "it becomes sunny"?

[swift bough]

well yes and no (in German jein xD)

[charred harbor]

If there's anything I've learnt about German over my life it's "once the meaning becomes clear, no one cares about completing the sentence"

[hardy zinc]

hehe

[swift bough]

the colloquial version doesn't really mean "it will become sunny" but it still would literally mean something like that

[hardy zinc]

yeah I see

[swift bough]

it's the same as the one with sein

it's just German speakers being lazy there

[hardy zinc]

yeah I've seen "Ich kann Deutsch" without a verb too

[swift bough]

I don't think that's even a laziness thing

"können" in the dictionary literally has an entry "to speak"

but it could be that it started out as laziness and eventually became another meaning

idk

[hardy zinc]

hmm

I see

wb "kannst du um 9:00 Uhr"?

[hardy zinc]

oh

same

fair

Universal verb hehe

[swift bough]

that would be the definition above the one I circled, I think

[hardy zinc]

yeah already noticed

[swift bough]

or even below

ze

ye

[hardy zinc]

alright vielen Dank!

[swift bough]

yeah it is versatile

no problem

[long whale]

faq omission of movement verbs ;)

[stoic mauve]

Omission of movement verbs

When it's obvious that a verb of movement is meant, it is implied:

• ich muss zur Toilette
• ich will nach Deutschland

This happens when there's

1. a preposition of movement, and
2. a modal verb.
   Without any of these two, the sentence is too generic and you can't infer what's happening.

It comes in handy since movement verbs in german are rather specific (you either go on foot, fly, or go with a vehicle, you can't just generically gosomewhere).
So if the target is a country, like nach Deutschland, this helps you get away with not mentioning whether you're going to fly there, drive or go by train, or cross the border on foot: you just say ich muss nach Deutschland, I have [to go] to Germany.

[viral jolt]

Dem Mann ist kalt. the man is feeling cold. is the use of dativ for this purpose okay?

when we say i feel cold, it's mir ist kalt and not ich bin kalt. so i was wondering if dativ is needed for that sentence too

[narrow pier]

👍

[long whale]

Oh yes! :)

[viral jolt]

thenks

der Mann ist kalt probably implies the man is literally cold, as in rude or apathetic

[swift bough]

it can. it can also mean he is cold to the touch

so from the perspective of someone who is not him who touched him or smth

[long whale]

Lacking in empathy, yes. Or as in literally "long dead". ^

[viral jolt]

yep understood. thanks guys!

[swift bough]

just as a tip the full sentence is "ihm ist es kalt" but more often than not the es gets omitted

but that is why it is ihm

so it literally means "it is cold to him"

[viral jolt]

a bit confusing as I've never seen the es yet but ig I'll encounter it more in the future and understand better

[long whale]

No, you won't. Cursed Alien was just explaining why it looks as if it's a sentence without a subject. The answer being: it's implied, by the theoretical existence of the "es". :)

[swift bough]

there was a reason for this "but more often than not the es gets omitted"

[viral jolt]

oo

[viral jolt]

oo i think i get it

[narrow pier]

hi, guys is the difference between Anwalt und Beamte : der Anwalt = lawyer always and / der Beamte = officer, or someone who works in an office, i didnt know what clerk was so ......

and is Erzieher and Kindergärtner the same thing but nowadays Erzieher is used more often ??

[rare jetty]

Beamter/Beamte is a person who works for the state. This could be: policemen, teacher and so on. Der Anwalt/Die Anwältin just a lawyer

[narrow pier]

[rare jetty]

Why did you react with ?

[narrow pier]

i was waiting for the other answr

Erzieher and Kindergärtner

[narrow pier]

it didnt offend you, did it,

??

[rare jetty]

No, no. I was just a bit concerned Erzieher/in and Kindergärtner/in are the same. I think "Erzieher" is more often used because its shorter and not that complicated.

[narrow pier]

okay thank you man

[celest pollen]

Während ich der Rasen mäche, höre ich gerne Musik
✅ ❌ ?

[half arch]

Während ich den Rasen mähe

[hardy zinc]

"Vor Kurzem habe ich gegessen" does it make sense?

[fervent kernel]

[brittle tide]

What verb fits this sentence? It involves laceration or breaking of membrane.

Ich weiß nicht welches verb soll ich mit laceration verwendem

Ich meinte die übersetzung von involve

[narrow pier]

does anyone read German comics, or any comic that is well translated I dont want the comic to be too old please, because i think , the language has changed a bit,

any recommendation, even if its old will be appreciated very much

[long meadow]

hmm, involviert/beinhaltet?

[long whale]

Without further context, there isn't really going to be a right answer. :)

Also, please don't post the same question in various channels. People may not realize it has already been answered/discussed in the other channel. :) @brittle tide

[brittle tide]

Tut mir leid werde ich nicht nochmal tun

Wound are injuries that break the skin or other body tissues it involves laceration or breaking of a membrane.

Ich könnte das nicht übersetzen 😔

[potent cloud]

Did you try deepl.com?

[brittle tide]

Was ist das?

[potent cloud]

ein Übersetzer

[long whale]

An automated translation system (better than google translate)

I did. Not 100% happy with the result, though.

[brittle tide]

Ich habe nur eine app verwendet

[long whale]

I guess "beinhalten" is pretty good in the context.

[brittle tide]

Ich habe mir das ausgedacht

Wunde sind eine verletzungen, die die haupt oder körpergewebe brechen. Es handelt sich um eine Platzewünde oder zugrundel liegende gewebe.

Aber ich fühle mich nicht sicher

Was denkst du?

[long whale]

There are a great many issues with that. Do try deepl.com and compare the result with your sentence. :)

[brittle tide]

Deepl.com benutzt das verb sich handeln auch.

[long whale]

Yeah. That's why I wasn't 100% happy about it. Because "involves X" means "X among other things", right? While "sich handeln um" = is

[last bolt]

In the following sentence
Die frau,der mein Freund Blumen geschikt hat,ist meine Nachbarin

Why is the third word der and not die

[potent cloud]

Mein Freund hat der Frau Blumen geschickt (My friend sent flowers to the woman) it is in the dative case 🙂

[last bolt]

Danke

In the sentence
Die Hausaufgabe wird nicht gemacht
What tense is being used

[potent cloud]

präsens, but passive voice

[last bolt]

How does that work

[undone verge]

faq passive

[stoic mauve]

Passive Voice

In English and German, a verb can have one of two voices which describe the relationship between the verb and the subject. These voices are the active voice and passive voice.

Typically, we use the active voice, where the subject is the doer or agent of the action. For example:

The man eats the apple.

In this sentence, the agent (the man) is acting upon (by eating) the object (the apple).

In the passive voice, the subject is the receiver or patient of the action. This typically places the emphasis on the patient or action, and the agent can be left out altogether if it is unknown or irrelevant. For example, the above sentence converted into the passive voice becomes:

The apple is being eaten.

In this example, the patient (the apple) is being acted upon (by being eaten) by an unknown agent.

Vorgangspassiv and Zustandspassiv

German offers two passive forms: the Vorgangspassiv and the Zustandspassiv. The Vorgangspassiv refers to the process of an action, while the Zustandspassiv refers to the state of an action. The Vorgangspassiv is more often used and relates closely to the active voice. See >explain Vorgangspassiv for an explanation of the Vorgangspassiv, and see >explain Stative Passive for an explanation of Zustandspassiv.

See Also

https://bit.ly/2Nqu84t (dartmouth university)
https://bit.ly/3sSXs9A (leo.org)
https://bit.ly/2RyEodX (Passive Voice on Pferd's blog)

[scarlet acorn]

Hallo, kann jemand mir helfen?

1. Und, Herr Finke? Gefällt ……. Ihr Job bei TTS?

Was ist die Antwort? Ihnen?

[novel jackal]

Other than, "dict.cc" where else can I look up words, that isn't precisely for one word only?

[viral jolt]

https://verbformen.de

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.verbformen.substantive.app

and this is the app

really helpful for looking up alternate meanings and nicely shows the genitiv too :)

[last bolt]

How do i write
This exam was conducted by...
Diese Prüfung hat von ...durchgeführt?
I looked up deepl but it uses wurde instead of hat but i dont understand why

[lavish marlin]

wurde is the verb that's used to form passive, since the exam is being conducted

"hat" would be used if it was the thing that is doing the action

[fervent hollow]

Sí

[swift bough]

if you wrote "hat" it wouldn't make sense because in English that would mean "this exam has conducted by" not "was"
so that's why you need "wurden" as it is the German equivalent of "was" in this case

@last bolt

I just noticed that was asked hours ago so thought I would ping

[fervent hollow]

Sí

[last bolt]

Danke

[ancient pulsar]

What is it asking from me to do in b), i know a) already

[swift bough]

so basically in German, for the names of professions, there is a word for if you're male and one for if you're female

Lehrer = male teacher
Lehrerin = female teacher

it's asking you to name both

[ancient pulsar]

oh then i already did that

I just named female and male professions, like der/die Professor-in etc.

der/die Sekretär-in

danke

[fervent kernel]

Morgen! Ich war gerade in der Apotheke und wollte meine Symptomen beschreiben. Kann mann 'meine Augen jucken' sagen oder gibst einen besseren Begriff? (Heuschnupfen!)

[autumn marsh]

naja wenn deine Augen nunmal jucken, dann ist das wohl richtig

[undone verge]

Augen können jucken, tränen, und brennen 🙏

insbesondere bei Allergien haha

[long whale]

Yes, you can. You could also just have said "Ich brauche was gegen Heuschnupfen", couldn't you? ;)

[undone verge]

you might ask for anti-allergy eyedrops. In which case you want to specifically mention your eyes. They work a lot of times when the normally prescribed tabletten don't 😄

[fervent kernel]

Danke an alle🙏

[fervent kernel]

Hatte das schon gesagt aber wollte meine Symptomen beschreiben (der Apotheker hat gefragt)

[long whale]

*Symptome (no -n) ;)

[fervent kernel]

👍

[random fractal]

Maybe if it is not to late you could ask for cetirizin tablets (Filmtabletten) they work most of the time for allergic reactions and are a blessing against Heuschnupfen

[narrow pier]

Hi guys. Whats a child called in her mothers wob ( an unborn child ) ,

[lethal panther]

formal oder informal

formal ist es der Nasziturus

informal ist es einfach das ungeborene Kind

[narrow pier]

Ob man Nasziturus verwendet , muss man zu der Zeit mit einem Lehrer oder Arzt sprechen ?

[lethal panther]

"whether to use an unborn child, has to be discussed with a teacher or a doctor at that time"

[narrow pier]

Okay , thanks

[lethal panther]

no, I'm saying that it's wrong

it doesn't make sense, see the english translation

you can't "use an unborn child"

[narrow pier]

So what should I use , just Nasziturus

[lethal panther]

in what context

what are you trying to say

[long whale]

Depending on its age, der Embryo, der Fötus

[undone verge]

maybe they mean the actual word...kinda like using the term 'foetus' is controversial to some in america?

[long whale]

I don't know about Switzerland or Austria, but in Standard German, this word is only used by lawyers/courts. :)

[narrow pier]

I am cofused right now , can I simply use ( das Kind) or it would be wrong

[mellow nova]

Is it?

[undone verge]

the problem is no one knows what you actually want to say because you're phrasing it 'using' a kid/fetus/whatever

[narrow pier]

I dont know what this statement implies, I am truly sorry

[long whale]

For an unborn child... only if you have some emotional tie to it. If it's yours, or your sister's or something. :)

[undone verge]

yeah to pro-lifers.

[mellow nova]

interesting

I don't talk to many of those so makes sense I haven't heard that

[mellow nova]

You wrote 'Nasziturus verwendet' you cannot 'verwendet' a 'Nasziturus'

do you mean 'keep' the child?

like see the pregnancy out to full term

[narrow pier]

I want to say ( the new news is : Meine Frau ist Schwanger, und wir können nicht seine Geschlecht wissen ) i was wondering about what to use in the place of ( seine)

[narrow pier]

I meant to say to use that word , did I say that wrong??

[mellow nova]

yes we have all said that it doesn't work

[undone verge]

then you probably would say 'das Geschlecht des Babys' or something

although...können es nicht wissen....what do you mean? is it too early? Or you don't know yet? Or you're keeping it a surprise?

[long whale]

Meine Frau ist schwanger und wir wissen nicht, ob es ein Junge oder ein Mädchen wird - is what you'd usually say. ;)

[narrow pier]

that sound correct, I want to translate whats already in my head, but as it appears , you cant do that

[narrow pier]

thank you

[hardy zinc]

could "I eat every day regardless of anything" be translated as "Auf jeden Fall esse ich jeden Tag"

[viral jolt]

ich esse egal jeden Tag works better i think

[hardy zinc]

okay, I see, but is my sentence in German correct? As in, does it convey what I meant?

I practice using some words/phrases that I learned that's why asking

[unkempt juniper]

Does work

[viral jolt]

ya it does

[hardy zinc]

Thanks!

[unkempt juniper]

No worries

[unkempt juniper]

The sentence structure is wrong Here

[long whale]

That... no. Not in Standard German. (Maybe in some sort of slang? 🤔 )

[unkempt juniper]

You could say
Ich esse zu Hundert Prozent (100%) jeden Tag

Or
Zu Hundert Prozent (100%) esse ich jeden Tag

[viral jolt]

how's the structure wrong?

[unkempt juniper]

The "egal"

[long whale]

I'd add in etwas or irgend[et]was at the end, but yes. :)

[unkempt juniper]

Das egal ist schon falsch in diesem Satz oder täusche ich mich ?

[long whale]

Yup.

[unkempt juniper]

Wie könnte man das richtig formulieren? Mir fällt kein Satz ein, wo man das egal einbauen könnte

[long whale]

Egal was passiert, ich esse jeden Tag [irgend]etwas - is that what you were looking for?

[unkempt juniper]

Ah stimmt

Danke

[viral jolt]

oo. have to look into better how it's used in sentences

[supple compass]

keine ernste frage aber ich möchte mehr slang lernen. slang ähnlich wie "brudi, wallah, geringverdiener"

[wise pendant]

Ehrenmann

[supple compass]

bedeutet das so etwas wie "ehrenwerter mann"?

[wise pendant]

Ein "Ehrenmann" oder eine "Ehrenfrau" ist eine Person, die etwas Besonderes für eine weitere Person macht.

Person A: "Ich war bei Mäcces und habe dir auch ne Packung Nuggets mitgebracht."
Person B: "Hey danke, nen richtiger Ehrenmann biste"

[near folio]

vielleicht Twitch oder Youtube Videos von jungen Leuten angucken? Die nutzen oft Slang. Du wirst eh wahrscheinlich im Laufe deines Deutschlernens unabsichtlich auf sehr viele umgangssprachliche Wörter stoßen.

[supple compass]

die leute die heute morgen die straßenbahn gestohlen haben, haben eine menge slang benutzt. 🤣

[near folio]

wut, jemand hat eine Straßenbahn gestohlen? Wie?

[wise pendant]

Es gibt aber auch verschiedene soziale Zirkel die unterschiedliche Slangbegriffe verwenden

[supple compass]

"ach du sheiße digga"

[wise pendant]

Das ist aber eine andere Art Slang, als ich ihn verwenden würde.

Digga würde ich zB nie benutzen

So Wörter wie abkecken dagegen schon

Was ich auch als Slang bezeichnen würde

[near folio]

was sagt er bei 0:05? "Ich hab kein'n(?) Bock auf <???>". Knast? Klas--?

[wise pendant]

"Ich hab kein Bock auf Knast" yeah

[rare jetty]

Knast=Prison

[last bolt]

Whats the difference between verlassen and lassen

I looked up leo.org but cant understand it

[tulip carbon]

Hallo! Ist da ein Unterschied zwichen dem Malen und dem Bild? Oder sind diese Worter austauschbar?

[tulip carbon]

From my understanding, lassen means to leave, as in leave something on a table (intentional). Verlassen has a negative connotation, and means to leave something behind because you forgot about it.

Hier ist ein hilfreiches Link!
https://chatterbug.com/community/t/german-prefix-ver/7906

[long meadow]

well malen is to paint and Bild is picture

[nimble viper]

Is this expression “nicht aus Zucker sein” common?

zB Natürlich kann ich es richtig machen, ich bin doch nicht aus Zucker

[fervent kernel]

Aber, Malen als Substantiv

[long meadow]

ive only heard it being used in the way like when someone doesnt want to go out when it rains so u say "du bist doch nicht aus Zucker" because sugar dissolves in water

but only heard it from older ppl

u probably mean Gemälde btw @tulip carbon instead of "Malen"

[tulip carbon]

Ah, I was referring to der Malen (a painting), and das Bild also has the same translation. I was wondering if there was a difference (eg. If I go to a museum, do I refer to the paintings as die Malerei, or die Bilde?)

[tulip carbon]

Oh!

[long meadow]

Gemälde would be painting

like in an art gallery

or whatever

painted by an artist

[fervent kernel]

I thought when from verbs come nouns, like substantivierungen or so idk

[long meadow]

Bild can be a photo u took with ur camera

Bild can actually be painting too tho

[tulip carbon]

Danke shön!

[long meadow]

Gemälde is just more specific or more formal id say

no problem

[tulip carbon]

I haven't heard of this before, I'll go search that up

[mellow nova]

Nominalisierung

wenn ich mich nicht irre

[fervent kernel]

Es ist gleiche , ich denke

[long whale]

I think you got a little confused. ;) malen = to paint; das Malen = the act of painting; der Maler = the painter; die Malerei = 1. the repeated act of painting pictures (-> er widmete sich der Malerei = he dedictated himself to painting [pictures]) 2. rarely: a single painting. tl;dr Yes, "die Malerei" can be used as a synonym for "das Gemälde", but far more often, "die Malerei Picassos/Gauguins/Renoirs" is used to mean "Picassos/Gauguins/Renois style of painting pictures" Hope that helps? :)

[cyan badger]

Hallo zusammen

Which is correct: 1) Obwohl es interessant ist, sehe nicht ferne ich.
2) Obwohl es interessant ist, sehe ich nicht ferne.

[long whale]

Only 2 is correct, and you need to remove the -e of "ferne"

[cyan badger]

Vielen dank, Susanna

[scenic arrow]

How free is the word order in a 'zu' clause? 'Ich beginne etwas zu tun' Can I do 'Etwas beginne ich zu tun'? Or 'Etwas zu tun beginne ich'?

[long whale]

In theory, all 3 will work. However, the 1st one is the default version, and unless it really fits the (often very specific) context, I can't really recommend the others. :)

[scenic arrow]

Fair enough

thank you!

[graceful goblet]

Words like daran, dafür, darüber - when in a sentence, they are accented on either the first syllable or the second one, (based on the position in the sentence), right? I had this explained to me like a year ago but now forgot. Can someone tell me what was that rule about

@chrome summit

I think one situation was when you start the sentence with them

[chrome summit]

kannst du ein Beispiel machen?

[graceful goblet]

Dafür habe ich mich entschieden, weil er mich darum gebeten hat.

I think it's like that

Da__für habe ich mich entschieden, weil er mich dar__um gebeten hat.

right?

[long whale]

It seems to me the "normal" da-compounds (as in your example) always get stressed on the 1st syllable: damit = with this, while they get stressed on the 2nd syllable when they have a meaning of their own, e.g. as a conjunction: Ich mache das, damit (so that) er mir hilft. Davon (of this) weiß ich nichts vs. Sie ging auf und davon (She upped and left)

[graceful goblet]

ooh that makes sense and I can actually relate to the examples in my patchy knowledge

👀

hmm now I wonder what the thing I encountered back then was 🤔
(Dafür sollte man sich Notizen machen)

[celest pollen]

Das Restaurant hat keinen Kirschkuchen, aber im Winter können Sie einen heißen Kirschkuchen bestellen.✅ ❌ ?

[long whale]

I couldn't find anything on the internet about this (darüber ;) ), I arrived at this conclusion solely by mumbling to myself for a while, so... 🤷

[graceful goblet]

yeah yeah I get it 😄

[chrome summit]

hmm only thing that comes to my mind is how you differentiate between da und wo but thats not connected to what youre saying, im sorry ;(

von über auf mit

• da/wo

[graceful goblet]

it is related in I that I think the same rule applies to wo-compounds

[long whale]

In diesem Restaurant gibt es derzeit/zur Zeit keinen Kirschkuchen, aber im Winter können Sie/kann man dort heißen K. bestellen. ;)

[fervent kernel]

is there any one here studies in Goethe institute in Germany?

[long whale]

There are various issues with your example sentence...

I'm not even quite sure what you wanted to say?

[graceful goblet]

nvm I see how that doesn't make sense

[tulip carbon]

Vielen Dank!

[graceful goblet]

anyway that issue was bothering me for a while despite not having to actively pronounce any of this 🙄

but as reading aloud semi-fluently is my only forte at the moment, I thought it would be nice to figure this out

[fleet bridge]

I watched kurzgesagt and notice one line says “Dieser Krieg wird angeführt vom effektivste Killer der Welt”, my question is, Why angeführt not be in the back of the line?

[viral jolt]

it's acting as an adjective perhaps

[crimson comet]

Putting angeführt at the end of the sentence also works

It's just because that the part "vom effektivste Killer der Welt" is kinda long, so it probably is less confusing to not put angeführt at the end

[fervent kernel]

Das ist inkorrekt

[undone verge]

no, it's not acting as an adjective. When Germans speak, they do not always hold 100% to the 'rules' that you would expect.

[upbeat thicket]

Because you can rearrange certain sentence parts in German.
You could also say:
Angeführt wird dieser Krieg vom effektivsten (don't forget the "n") Killer der Welt.
or:
Vom effektivsten Killer der Welt wird dieser Krieg angeführt.

[upbeat thicket]

Only "Wird" is fixed in that sentence as German has V2-word order

[scarlet acorn]

Hallo, ich habe eine Frage.
was ist der Unterschied zwischen “spaß haben” und “spaß machen”?

[fleet bridge]

Is Infinitiv obligated to be at the end of the sentence?

[fleet bridge]

Ic

[raw radish]

“Ich habe Spaß” means that I am having fun. “Das Spiel macht Spaß” means that the game is fun. So basically having fun vs. being fun

[scarlet acorn]

Dankeschön 😇

[upbeat thicket]

There is no infinitive in that sentence 😅

[fleet bridge]

Angeführt?

[upbeat thicket]

No, "wird angeführt" is passive voice

[raw radish]

angeführt ist passiv, nicht infinitiv

[upbeat thicket]

infinitive would be "anführen"

[fleet bridge]

Oh

I mean past participle

[upbeat thicket]

Yes

[fleet bridge]

Does it need to be in the end?

[wise pendant]

Normally you would put angeführt at the end, yes. But that is a more flexible rule like V2

[upbeat thicket]

In the most standard way to build a sentence - yes.

[mellow nova]

How they said it isn't grammatically correct, if this helps. When speaking you don't always know 100% exactly what you're going to say so little adverbials like 'vom effektivste Killer der Welt' can come up after you decide to finish your sentence. The grammatically correct positions for the past participle would either be in position 1 or the end of the clause

[tulip carbon]

Wenn ein Auto "das Auto" ist, warum ist ein VW "der VW"?

[long whale]

Check what the abbreviation VW stands for. Check gender of last word in compound noun -> article used. ;)

[tulip carbon]

Ah! Der Wagen! Danke!

Aber.... ist ein Mercedes / Ferrari "das Mercedes / Ferrari"?

Oder sind sie auch Wagen?

[long whale]

No. They're all masculine. As opposed to motorbikes which are all feminine. ;)

-> der BMW = car; die BMW = motorbike

[tulip carbon]

Danke!

uhhh ist ein Toyota auch masc? Ein Toyota ist kein Sportwagen...

[long whale]

*Sportwagen (no -s-) Yes. Nothing to do with the kind of car - except for convertibles which are neuter: das Cabrio. der Wagen = das Auto See?

@tulip carbon

[fervent kernel]

„Nennen Sie die Herkunftssprache des Wortes „Link".“

What should be the answer?

[upbeat thicket]

Englisch

Nevermind "Nennen Sie" only requires one word in that case

[fervent kernel]

Ach so it asks for the original of the word

[upbeat thicket]

Yes

[fervent kernel]

Danke!!

„Erklären Sie die Bedeutung des Wortes „Link".“

My answer: „Verbindung; Etwas mit etwas anderes verbinden“

Is that correct? @upbeat thicket

[long whale]

Almost. "mit" requires Dativ -> change ending of ander-

;)

[fervent kernel]

Mit etwas anderen? :/

[fervent kernel]

Anderem

[long whale]

yup, but no capitalization required. :)

[wise pendant]

In Germany you usually only use Link for a hyperlink to click on online.

[fervent kernel]

Wouldn’t my definition be correct?

[wise pendant]

In German you don't use the word in the broad sense, if it's about the loan word Link in the German language

[fervent kernel]

What I should be writing then?

@long whale „Notieren Sie drei weitere Wörter mit dem Wortstamm Link".
Benennen Sie jeweils die Wortart.“

Do you have any idea for this one?

[long whale]

Do you understand what they're asking you to do?

[fervent kernel]

Vaguely

[long whale]

Well, what is it you don't understand?

[fervent kernel]

I think I understand this one, it says name a word that has „link“ as suffix or prefix, right?

[long whale]

If you don't understand what it is you're supposed to do, why don't you put the questions through deepl.com (or even google translate)?

[upbeat thicket]

If you just have problems with the words itself - please use a translator

[long whale]

You're being asked to name three more words with the word stem "Link/link". And you're supposed to say what kinds of words (verbs, compound nouns, etc.) they are.

[long whale]

No, they'd like the answers to questions they didn't understand in the first place. That's why I was suggesting deepl. :)

[upbeat thicket]

Ja verstehe schon. Aber wenn man die Frage ja nicht versteht und die Wörter wie "Wortstamm" nicht versteht/noch nicht kennt, dann macht's ja Sinn erstmal den Übersetzer zu benutzen. Das wollt ich damit sagen 😄

[fervent kernel]

But I still have no idea, other than „verlinken“ which I heard in class- besides we can’t use translators or mobile phones in the exam

[long whale]

That's good, so, you already have 1. Now think, what other words have you heard which have "link" in them?

[fervent kernel]

hyperlink? - by the way, was my understanding of Wortstamm true?

[long whale]

No, nothing to do with prefixes or suffixes. in "verlinken" the stem is "-link-", while "ver-" is the prefix, and "-en" is the suffix.

[long whale]

Great! So, go check whether the word exists in the German dictionary. ;)

[wise pendant]

Link is a weird word to be chosen for learning German

[fervent kernel]

Es ist ein sehr beschissene Aufgabe, korrekt?

[fervent kernel]

It exists- but I’m still not sure how Wortstamm has nothing to do with prefix and suffixes, you said yourself „ver“ is prefix and „end“ is suffix :/

[fervent kernel]

where are u from?

Hallo

[fervent kernel]

Iraq

This channel is for questions 😬

I was wondering if I could explain it to you in your native language

😄

Thank youu

How do you answer when a friend tells you to so something

Like a friend says "wanna Go JUMP over Stones" and you Say in english "bet" or Word"

Is it in German "Safe" or "na klar?

[unkempt juniper]

You can just say "ja" (yes)
But some Teenagers actually use english words like bet for it

[wise pendant]

A selection of colloquial expressions like that:
Klar doch
'türlich
Immer doch
Na sicher
Na siggi

[fervent kernel]

what are “jeden”, “jemand” usw. considered as in subjects, like, sie or er/sie/es

[wise pendant]

It's all called pronoun

If that answers your question

[fervent kernel]

ok but what pronoun is it

[blazing vault]

You mean for which genders?

[wise pendant]

Indefinitpronomen

[fervent kernel]

no, just

honestly

er/sie/es or sie

but i got my answer from smb else alr thanks

maybe the problem was mine but you guys understood it too late

[fathom thorn]

können sie bitte dieser Satz mal anschauen, ob es gut geformt ist 😊 .
Heutzutage gibt es zahlreiche pflanzliche alternativen zum fleisch in vegetarischer Form, die genauso lecker als normale Essen sind, manchmal sogar besser.

[blazing vault]

genauso ... wie nicht als

Fleisch groß und Artikel würde ich weglassen

[fathom thorn]

Vielen dank !

[upbeat thicket]

Alternativen auch groß

und statt dem letzten Komma würde ich und schreiben

[fathom thorn]

Notiert, danke 😊

[narrow pier]

Das schöne Wetter , das gute, Essen das Straßenleben , mag ich an Deutschland

Hi so I don't understand why its gute Essen and not Gut Essen

[undone verge]

das gute Essen

the good food

if you just said 'good food,' it would be 'gutes Essen'

[upbeat thicket]

it's an adjective

just like schöne

[narrow pier]

So (gute )is an adjective

Whats the difference between schön or schöne and schöne in a sentence

You can't use gut Essen right ? In a sentence i mean

[undone verge]

the adjectives in german decline according to the gender and case and 'determiniertheit' of the noun to which they're attached

welcome to your next living nightmare

[narrow pier]

There isn't a subject in my sentence right, or is there idk

[narrow pier]

First time hearing it

[undone verge]

yeah there is, it's 'ich'

[narrow pier]

🍴 🍞 💯

[undone verge]

'Das schöne Wetter , das gute Essen, das Straßenleben mag ich an Deutschland'
in short: these are the things I like about Germany.

[narrow pier]

Oh so are the other things are in dativ like ( das Essen )

[undone verge]

no, those are not in dative. They are in accusative

[narrow pier]

Thank you so much for the helping ( danke für Ihren helfen )

[undone verge]

danke für die Hilfe* 😄

and np

[fervent kernel]

@plain umbra do the texts in #writing get checked ?

it kinda feels empty

i would love to write bigger texts in there

[fallow ledge]

Im not base but i can say that the texts are read and corrected by community members. If you ever feel like correcting someones work then your more than welcome to

[fervent kernel]

oh good to know, thanks blüwü

[fallow ledge]

Yeah in short its a community effort, there arent any particular people who go through and handle it, just anyone who feels up for it donating some time

[narrow pier]

I was waiting for this actually

[fervent kernel]

@fallow ledgewait i am a bit confused

these corrections only correct typos and grammer mistakes?

or do they also give feedback

also there is a limit of words you can use to write texts on discord

funny how you need nitro to write longer texts

[floral beacon]

In the context of jobs, what's a goldsucher?

[long whale]

https://de.pons.com/übersetzung/deutsch-englisch/Goldsucher

[floral beacon]

@long whale is that like a goldigger or a miner?

[fervent kernel]

It seems to be a person that looks out for the deposit of gold as a job.

so that it can get mined

[floral beacon]

Hm I see

[long whale]

Your guess is as good as mine. :D

[crimson haven]

Hi everyone, may I know if this sentence is grammatically correct, declensions included?

Ich stehe vor 8 Uhr auf und dann gehe ich von 8 Uhr bis 8.30 Uhr für eine schnelles Joggen.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. P.S, I know the sentence could be written in a more compact way, but since I am a beginner, I am just trying to be as grammatically correct as possible.

[upbeat thicket]

Ich stehe vor 8 Uhr auf und dann gehe ich von 8 Uhr bis 8.30 Uhr eine schnelle Runde joggen/schnell joggen.

[crimson haven]

^Sehr Dank Lenaa, aber muss das adjective 'schnell' nicht auch ein Ende haben?

[upbeat thicket]

schnell ist dann ein Adverb in dem Fall und muss nicht dekliniert werden

[crimson haven]

Ach so. Ich habe noch keine Adverbien gelernt, nur Adjektive.

[final marlin]

Haben Sie eigentlich keinen Fehler in der Text von P33apnos gefunden?

[upbeat thicket]

Doch, hab ich markiert

[crimson haven]

Kann ich das Verb "joggen' zu das Substantiv "das Joggen' umwandeln? Danach kann ich dann schnell als Adjektiv verwenden?

[final marlin]

Na ja, meinen Sie die Fehlern der Zahlen? Ich meinte, außer diese Fehlern.

[upbeat thicket]

Ja, aber dann kannst du es nicht in den Satz einbauen… das macht dann hier keinen Sinn und die Grammatik wäre falsch

[upbeat thicket]

Sonst war alles richtig bis auf einen Kommafehler

[crimson haven]

Ich verstehe, noch einmal vielen Dank für Ihre Hilfe.

[celest pollen]

Ich hätte gerne ein Mango-Eis zur Nachspeise, das nicht zu sauer und NICHT zu warm ist.❌ ✅ ?

[long meadow]

warm ice cream?

[mellow nova]

no no it says not warm

[long whale]

Grammar's fine. Content is not. If you said "nicht zu kalt" it would make sense. 🤷

[honest hill]

exactly. its kinda self explanatory that ice cream isnt "too warm"

[rare jetty]

Eis kann nur kalt sein

[half arch]

Nicht wenn du kälter bist

[rare jetty]

Schwache Argumentation

[half arch]

Lass mich und meine aurgumente

[celest pollen]

Man's not hot, skraaaaaaaa

[rough furnace]

Hi guys could you check if My short text is correct?

Urlaub bedeutet für mich, dass ich es ruhig angehen und entspannen kann. Wenn ich Urlaub habe, sonne ich mich gerne und schwimme natürlich. Mein Traum ist es, auf die Malediven zu fahren, weil es ein perfekter Ort für einen Urlaub ist, weil es dort warm ist, es schön ist und also ich gerne reist.

[half arch]

"...und ich gerne reise."
Try #writing next time

[rare jetty]

"[...] schön ist und ich gerne reise"

[honest hill]

The first sentence seems correct. In the second one, you wrote "weil es" twice. You might wanna sum that up. Also

und also ich gerne [reise]
The "also" seems out of place here

[merry python]

Using #questions for such short texts is fine
^ @rough furnace well done, just a small mistake that people already pointed out

[rough furnace]

What if :

Urlaub bedeutet für mich, dass ich es ruhig angehen und entspannen kann. Wenn ich Urlaub habe, sonne ich mich gerne und schwimme natürlich. Mein Traum ist es, auf die Malediven zu fahren, weil es ein perfekter Ort für einen Urlaub ist, weil es dort warm ist, es schön ist und ich reise gerne auch.

[long whale]

Nope. Still being introduced by "weil" -> subordinate clause word order.

[rough furnace]

I don't really get it ....

[long whale]

That last bit? "ich reise gerne auch"? Wrong word order. :)

[rough furnace]

The verb needs to be at the end?

[upbeat thicket]

In subordinate clauses yes.

[naive linden]

Basically, it's bad wording if you repeat the same words in the same sentence (unless it's verses or prose).
So you could cross out the 2nd "weil". (But it's not wrong!)
And that's just my personal suggestion to write the last bit "und ich gerne reise." to make the sentence work out.

[sly stump]

Wie kann die folgende redimittel besser anwenden:

Während die einen ... behaupten, meinen die anderen, dass ...

[upbeat thicket]

Einerseits ..., andererseits ...
Kann man auch noch sagen. Oder was meinst du?

[sly stump]

Ich habe dieses Redemittel aus dem TestDAF-Buch ausgewählt.

Ich bin mir auch nicht so sicher

Aber denke ich, dass es ähnliche Bedeutung als "Einerseits.. Andereseits" hat

Ich brauche ein beispiel satz dafür, es besser zu verstehen

[upbeat thicket]

Während die einen behaupten, Deutsch wäre eine leichte Sprache, meinen die anderen, dass Deutsch eine sehr schwierige Sprache ist.

@sly stump

[final marlin]

Danke schön

[fervent hollow]

What would be a German equivalent of the word Nosy? Like curious but with a negative connotation

[narrow pier]

hi, I have a question please if you say ( die Blume ist schön ) is die Blume subjekt, despite having anything done,

[wintry geode]

die Blume is the Subject. It is in Nominative.

[narrow pier]

thanks

[long whale]

There is only neugierig. If you want to differentiate, wissbegierig, wissensdurstig, bildungshungrig and interessiert all have a positive connotation. :)

[rare jetty]

The person who is nosy, is a "Schnüffler", this def. has a negative connocation, but isnt an adjective

[fallow ledge]

You can request feedback if thats what youre after, but theyre generally there to correct grammar and spelling

You dont use the discord word limit, you put your text into a google doc and post a link. No word limit

I was asleep

[fervent kernel]

alrighty

[fervent kernel]

ye i thought so 🙂

[tulip carbon]

"Es werden ähnliche Programme getestet." Warum ist testen Perfekt, und nicht Infinitiv?

[hot onyx]

What's the best way to learn german?

[true igloo]

a language platform or videos. or even deeper researching more about the language.

[hot onyx]

I'll be doing that, I just want to be sure I'm pronouncing right too

[timber garnet]

It's passive voice, so "Similar programs are tested". Whereas werden + infinitive would be future tense

[night dagger]

faq beginner in #botchannel

[stoic mauve]

FAQ not found. Try >explain all.

[tulip carbon]

Was bedeutet "nehmen sich"? Wie ist es anders als "nehmen"?

[undone verge]

they can go almost anywhere

is there a specific adverb or sentence you have in mind?

[wise pendant]

"Das nimmt sich nichts" means "It's not much of a difference"
If you meant that

[long whale]

We sometimes add in the reflexive pronoun when we want to emphasize we're doing something for ourselves: Ich mache Kaffee (unclear whether I'm going to drink it myself) vs. Ich mache mir einen Kaffee (I'm making it for myself); Ich kaufe ein Haus (unclear who for) vs. Ich kaufe mir ein Haus (I'm buying a house for myself); Nimm einen Apfel (Take an apple) vs. Nimm dir einen Apfel (Take an apple for yourself). Does that help?

[mental jetty]

What is the purpose of dich in „Wie fühlst du duch?“

[long whale]

"etwas fühlen" = to notice/sense something, like a small stone in your shoe. "sich fühlen" = how you feel inside :)

[mental jetty]

So if I say, I feel happy, I should say „Ich fühle glücklich mich“?

[long whale]

Well... "mich" would go before "glücklich". And you'd probably just say "Ich bin glücklich". But in principle, yes. :)

[mental jetty]

Vielen dank