questions-2

[dusty pendant]

this is like... 3 sentences in one, and I feel like I've made a lot of mistakes in them
so I just wanted to ask where they are, how I would fix them, and why they're wrong

Ich nehme an, dass du es nicht so gut sprechen kann, weil du heute ein paar Fehler gemacht hast.

[it's.. a bit topical]

[long whale]

What's the subject in your dass-clause? And which verb ought to be conjugated according to this subject? If you can answer these 2 questions, resp. fix the mistake I tried to point out to you by asking them, everything's good. ;)

[dusty pendant]

aa
sprechen kannst?

i guess i got confused because 2 of 3 of the singular forms of it are just "kann" so I defaulted
ty!

is it a weird sentence or smn though?

[long whale]

No, it's fine. :)

[dusty pendant]

aw sweet

ty again :)

[frank comet]

Hey, can anyone check my updated email to a german friend?

[noble yacht]

Sure. Feel free to post it in the correct channel! An explanation where to post it is here: #writing-info

[frank comet]

Ich hoffe, dass Ihnen in Deutschland gut .Ich bin in australien Schule zu machen. In australien, schule ist gut fur alle personen weil viele Wege in schule hat. Ich finde menschen kann wählen deine Karriereoption. In australien, Ich habe deustch lerne weil ich finde eine andere sprache ist gut fur mich. Ich finde deusch ist nicht schwerlich als Japansich weil meine schule kann deustch oderr japansich sprache zu lernen. In meine deustch klasse, ich lerne freundschaft mit andere. Freundschaft ist sehr gut weil ich viele gute fruend hat. In meine Klasse, alle personen ist gut mit alle. Wir lernen fruendschaft kann zwischen tieren und personen. Eine gute fruend muss gehen in beide Richtungen ( go both ways) und ihr unterstützen Sie in guten und schlechten Zeiten ( support you in good and bad times). Wenn man einen Konflikt hat, ist es mühelos, wenn man einen guten Fruend hat. Ich brauche fruendschaft ist wichtig für mich weil wenn ich probleme hat, ich kann sprichst mit dich. Meine Freunde helfen mir bei meinen Hausafgaben und ich helfe ihnen, wenn sie eine Problem haben. Freunde sind jemand, dem ich mich anvertrauen und ihnen meine Geheimnisse anvertrauen kann. (Friends are someone I can confide in and share my secrets with) Eine gute fruend sind nett, hilfsbereit,, lustig und Sie vertrauen können. Freundschaft mit andere land ist sehr gut weil wenn Sie treffen sich, es lohnt sich mehr (when you meet, its more worthwhile). Ich denke, dass deine fruend kann famile werden. Ich finde gute freunde fast genauso wichtig wie meine familie.

@noble yacht

[charred harbor]

“Eine gute fruend”

The word is Freund (not Fruend) and Freund is masculine so you would never say “eine gute Freund”

You said “einen guten Fruend” as accusative form later which is the correct gender but Freund is still spelt incorrectly of course @frank comet

There’s a feminine word for female friends “Freundin” so if you still wanted the “eine gute” you could say “eine gute Freundin”

You also said “eine Problem” which implies Problem is feminine and you say “die Problem”, but “Problem” is actually neuter (“das Problem” is correct) so “ein Problem” would be correct, not “eine Problem”.

Weil wenn ich probleme hat, ich kann sprichst mit dich -> Weil wenn ich __P__robleme habe, kann ich mit dir sprechen.

[frank comet]

Thanks

[frank comet]

i appreciate this so much. I know how long it took and the fact you did that for me is much appreciated

[summer vapor]

Hello i want to say here; I wish i could help you and wish i could help. Are these 2 examples correct?
Ich wünschte dir könnte helfen. Wünschte ich dir könnte helfen.

[fallow ledge]

It would be:
Ich wünschte, ich könnte dir helfen

[summer vapor]

Ooo there is a comma in the middle of sentence. All right thank you so much for correcting me.

[fallow ledge]

The comma is there to show where the clauses in the sentence are

Ich wünschte is a clause, and ich könnte dir helfen is another

You can put a dass (that) in there too and turn the second clause into a subordinating clause

Ich wünschte, dass ich dir helfen könnte

This moves the conjugated verb to the end of the clause

[summer vapor]

I noted all of these. Thank you so much.

[charred harbor]

No problem.
I was at the doctor's when I wrote this and my phone was on low battery, so I didn't have time to point out everything that I wanted to. I just tried to point out some of the main gripes I had so it could be a little bit better, at least.

Gripes? That's not the word 😆
Some of the biggest things that jumped out to me, I mean.

[vast violet]

dass es Ihnen in Deutschland gut geht
in Australien um zur Schule zu gehen/ aus schulischen Gründen

weil es viele Wege in der Schule gibt/
weil man viele Wege in der Schule hat

Menschen können* ihre* Karriereoptionen wählen

ich lerne Deutsch

schwerlich - hardly
schwierig - hard/difficult

nicht so schwierig wie Japanisch

meiner deutschen Klasse*
mit anderen*

Meine Beziehung mit anderen in der Klasse ist sehr gut
viele gute Freunde* habe*

in meiner Klasse* sind alle Personen miteinander sehr gut befreundet

[long whale]

I wonder what "viele Wege in Schule hat" is supposed to mean?

[vast violet]

not sure either...many options?

[long whale]

Because your (grammar-wise correct) version would mean something like "there's lots of walking to be done/errands to be run at school"

[vast violet]

gonna have to know what they meant to say, in order to form a coherent sentence

[icy flax]

The OP might be talking about the less fatalistic education system in Australia (wout haupt real and gymnasium ||ways are open 4 all||)

[long whale]

"fatalistic education"? :D

[long whale]

It's not as if there's no way for people to go to university, even if they dropped out of school/did not get the appropriate leaving certificate, you know. ;) @icy flax

[icy flax]

Yes, I know. I am not discussing it but what they might have meant.

[ancient pulsar]

Es kommen vier Erwachsene und zwei Kinder zu Besuch.
why no article before Besuch
Weil Besuch kommt, kaufen wir Saft für die Kinder.

[long whale]

der Besuch in the sense of "visitors/people coming to stay" is uncountable (as opposed to der Besuch, die Besuche in the sense of "visit"). Uncountable words (i.e. words without a plural) are frequently used without an article, just like in English. :)

Plus, zu Besuch sein/kommen is a fixed expression.

[ornate shuttle]

Wäre ich reich, würde ich ein Auto besitzen.

Wenn ich reich wäre gewesen, hätte ich ein Auto besitzt.

(1 sind diese Sätze korrekt?
(2 was ist der Unterschied dazwischen?

[long whale]

2nd one is not correct. Check word order in the first part, check past participle for "besitzen".

And the difference is the 1st is for the present (If I were rich, I'd have a car - now), the 2nd is for the past (If I had been rich, I'd have had a car - in the past)

[ornate shuttle]

Wenn ich reich gewesen wäre, hätte ich ein Auto besessen

Thank you❤️

[final marlin]

Do you really write like this, Ich hoffe, dass Ihnen in Deutschland gut.

Where is the verb?

[long whale]

No, of course not. But I think this sentence already got corrected.

Just read on.

BTW, the 2nd part isn't just missing its verb, it's also missing a subject.

[ancient pulsar]

Visitor is an uncountable noun? didn't know that

omitting article makes sense now

thanks

[long whale]

No, visitor is "der Besucher" (male) or "die Besucherin" (female) and those are both countable. Please read my post about "der Besuch" again carefully. ;)

Plus, "Besucher" ist usually used in the context of hospital visitors. It would be kind of... odd if you said "Ich habe einen Besucher" to say you had a visitor to your home.

[ancient pulsar]

der Besuch - visitors
der Besuch - visit
1st one is uncountable

[long whale]

Correct, yes.

[ancient pulsar]

i thought plural of it would be
der Besucher, die Besucherin, die Besucher

like in Lehrer

[long whale]

It is.

But then, we've got the uncountable "der Besuch", and that's used for people coming to see you at home.

[ancient pulsar]

heeee

i see now

[long whale]

Ich war bei meiner Schwester zu Besuch = I visited my sister (and stayed at her place)

[ancient pulsar]

der Besuch - visitors (uncountable)
der Besuch - visit
der Besucher - visitor
die Besucher - visitors (plural)

[long whale]

Yes, exactly.

[ancient pulsar]

sry im in a lecture

brb

lol i didnt have any questions anyway

thank you

[rigid briar]

can anyone check if i did this exercise right?

[long whale]

Check 16, 17 and 18. Rest is all good.

[rigid briar]

oh ok thanks<3

[rigid briar]

sorry but at 17 is it correct if i say “aus”?

[long whale]

No. Stop guessing, check your notes, or your book. :)

Or use a dictionary. :)

[rigid briar]

i am checking my notes actually lmao-

but i suck at german hahha

[long whale]

👀 But you did very well. Now, think. Which English word would make sense in 17?

[rigid briar]

idk “since”?

oh wait i think i got it

is it good now for 16 and 17?

[delicate tiger]

16: ❌, 17: ✅

[rigid briar]

i sent the wrong photo sorry

[potent cloud]

you should check which preposition goes with ''Angst haben''

[rigid briar]

i cant use “vor” because its not in the list of the preposition i can use in this exercise.

[potent cloud]

Jesus, that just got me confused as well.. I know Angst haben um (Akk) exists, but it would not make sense since großen Tieren is in dativ. And vor does not exist in the options. @long whale could you help maybe?

[rigid briar]

yea thats why i hate german haha it just gets me so confused over small things

[placid path]

But it stands there "Einige Präpositionen passen nicht" (Some prepositions do not fit), so maybe you have to adjust the word

[fervent kernel]

which way is right to say "what has that got to do with me as an individual?" : 'was hat das auf mir als Individuum zu tun?' or 'was hat das mit mir als Individuum zu tun?'

[wise pendant]

The latter

[long whale]

Yeah - error in the exercise. Only "vor" fits, nothing else does. 🤷

[fervent kernel]

mit mir?

[potent cloud]

Yeah i thought so. Danke!

[final marlin]

What is the answer to 18 ?

I think it should be "in".

[long whale]

Think - which preposition can you use for "not far from/near"?

No. München is a city, Unterhaching is a small town next to it.

[wise pendant]

Is Unterhaching not a district?

I have no idea thh

[final marlin]

,,um". Ich vermute.

[long whale]

No, there's an S-Bahn station in Unterhaching, that's it.

[long whale]

You guessed wrong.

[final marlin]

I would say ,,neben". But it is not an option

[long whale]

"um" used as a preposition of place just means "around". And "neben" isn't usually used with towns/cities being next to each other.

[final marlin]

Wait ,,bei".

But I have only used bei with like visiting people and Firma or Unternehmen.

[long whale]

Yeah, well, this won't have been the last time you'll have seen a preposition in a context you aren't familiar with, yet. :)

[ornate shuttle]

Es wäre ihr peinlich, wenn in der Bewerbung Fehler wären. Darum bittet sie ihren Freund um Hilfe.

Warum gibt es hier ihr?????

[whole portal]

her ...?

[tropic thistle]

Gefühle und Empfindungen verlangen oft einen Dativ

Es wäre [wem?] peinlich. [Wem?] ist heiß/kalt. Usw.

It would be embarrassing for her if there were errors in the application.

[ornate shuttle]

Es ist wie*** Es wäre [für sie] peinlich

Danke dir ❤️

[next wren]

Hallo, Ich habe eine Frage.
Ist der Satz "Meine Schule liegt beim Bahnhof" richtig?
If I want to say "My school is located near the train station"

[crisp adder]

Ja der ist gut so. Du könntest auch sagen "Meine Schule liegt in der Nähe von dem Bahnhof/ des Bahnhofes."

[next wren]

Ach, so! danke schön :D

[graceful grove]

is this correct? or is it supposed to be ein?

[crisp adder]

what do you want to say?

[whole portal]

ein Geheimnis?

[wise pendant]

Vielleicht "gemein haben"

[graceful grove]

i want to say something like "Most teenagers have at least one secret"

[crisp adder]

Die meisten Jugendlichen haben mindestens ein Geheimnis.

[wise pendant]

This ^

[graceful grove]

doesnt that become "a secret" instead of "one secret"?

[wise pendant]

one and a is the same in German

[graceful grove]

thought so already, was unsure whether or not you should use eins when you want to use one

[final marlin]

Ich habe eine Frage. Benutzen die Deutsche K-II mit realen Wünschen auch ??

[crisp adder]

Was genau ist K-II ?

[final marlin]

Konjunktiv II Form

[crisp adder]

Ja mit würde denke ich schon

[rare cipher]

Ich lerne seit letztem Jahr Deutsch, aber ich habe immer noch B1-Niveau. Was soll ich machen?

[acoustic breach]

"ich hätte gern ein Döner"
"Ich möchte gern ein Döner haben"
Die sind auch Konjunktiv 2. Man sagt es im Restaurant.

[final marlin]

Ja aber sie sind nicht irreale Wünsche, stimmt's?

[acoustic breach]

Oh warte ich habe die Frage falsch verstanden

Hehe es tut mir leid 😂

[whole portal]

Ich versteh die Frage immer noch nicht.

[crisp adder]

Same

[final marlin]

Well I just want to ask, if people use K-II with real wishes as well.

[whole portal]

What's the difference between a fake wish and a real wish for you

Can you give an example

[final marlin]

Like these

[crisp adder]

Ich hätte wirklich gerne ein Fahrrad? Wenn ich mir dann eins kaufe.

[whole portal]

These seem like pretty real wishes to me

[final marlin]

Yeah, but like ich würde gern Zeit mit meiner Familie verbringen. This is unreal.

[whole portal]

How is that unreal

[acoustic breach]

If the family is still alive, this can be real

If the family is unreachable, then unreal

But still could be used, right?

[final marlin]

Well, because he can't do this due to whatever reason. Like suppose he is abroad and cannot contact his familie.

I mean, I feel like people use K-II for any wish that they have.

Not just unreal

[whole portal]

Yes, sure ...?

[acoustic breach]

These are realistic wishes, correct?
Then the answer to your question is yes

[final marlin]

I have learnt that K-II is to be used to express unreal wishes.

[mellow nova]

k2 is also for politeness

ich will _ is kinda forward

[whole portal]

Then give me an example of a "real wish", K2 or not ...?

[final marlin]

3 cases to use K-II - a) Eine höffliche Bitte
b) Irreale Wünsche
c) Ratschlage beraten

[final marlin]

@whole portal

[whole portal]

Well these are all perfectly valid statements so ...

[mellow nova]

i'm not sure you're actually listening to what they're askng

[whole portal]

But "Ich möchte einen Döner haben." is just fine as well

[final marlin]

Auch, Vermute, dass du genug Geld hat. Dann wirst du sagen, Ich möchte ein neues Auto kaufen oder Ich würde gern ein neues Auto kaufen.

@whole portal

[acoustic breach]

Ja, das kann man

[wise pendant]

"Boah, ich hätte jetzt so gern einen Döner" <- unrealistischer Wunsch
"Entschuldigung, ich hätte gerne einen Döner" <- Höfliche Bitte
"Ich hätte einen Döner. Den könnte ich auch essen" <- Ratschlag

[final marlin]

Okay, Ich würde nur eine Bestätigung haben. Auf diesem Aussatz, sind beiden Sätze richtig, oder ?

[mellow nova]

you know möchte is also K2, right?

[final marlin]

Nup.

[mellow nova]

is that no or yes

[final marlin]

No

[crisp adder]

Isn‘t würde k2

[acoustic breach]

Yes

[mellow nova]

it's k2 of mögen

[crisp adder]

I haven‘t used möchte as k2

[mellow nova]

if you've ever said möchte in your life then yes you have

`you can't use möchte as not k2

[final marlin]

Wirklich??? Ich habe immer gedacht, dass beiden verschiedene Verben waren.

Actually in some places I have also learnt that they are Modalverbs as well but I only consider the 5 modal verbs. 😅

[mellow nova]

https://conjugator.reverso.net/conjugation-german-verb-mögen.html

[final marlin]

Können, dürfen, wollen, sollen und müssen.

[mellow nova]

möchten is used very often so it's often seen alongside mögen in modal verb lists

[mellow nova]

`well regardless of what you consider, there are 6

[whole portal]

Then what I meant is Ich will einen Döner haben and möchte is K2 because it's polite I guess.

[weak mist]

Also, Ich habe dieses Thema ausgewählt, weil ich denke, dass es besonders in dem derzeitigen Jahrzehnt sehr wichtig ist, gegen Klimawandel zu kämpfen. Weil wenn wir das nicht schaffen könnten, wäre es für die Menschheit sehr schwierig, unsere Welt zu schützen und auf diesem Planeten zukunftsfähig weiter zu leben. Dabei spielen wir durchschnittliche Menschen selbst eine große Rolle und auch unsere eigene Hobbys, Jobs, Lebensstile und Routine.

is this sentence correct?

[exotic turtle]

You need to use plural with routine: Routinen

and i'd use "jetzigen" instead of "derzeitigen"

[rare jetty]

gegen den Klimawandel zu kämpfen + eigenen Hobbys

[exotic turtle]

And use "..., denn wenn" and not "Weil wenn", because you need to change the order when using "weil", and "weil" or "denn" at the begining of the sentence doesn't sound good

[rare jetty]

Its a pretty tough sentence, respect

[icy flax]

An diejenigen, die Deutsch als Fremdsprache lernen (weil die Muttersprachler dieses Problem selbstv nicht haben hehe):

Wie wisst ihr welches Wort der Umgangssprache, Alltagssprache, formalen Sprache oder Bürosprache gehört?

In letzter Zeit erkenne ich die Relevanz, den Wortschatz besser in diese verschiedenen Kategorien einordnen zu können. Anglizismen sind generell einfach als Umgangssprache zu kategorisieren. Für andere Wörter sind meine zwei Quellen Wikitionary und DWDS. Ich bin seit einem Vorstellungsgespräch jedoch verwirrt, weil die Deutschen "klappen" gesagt haben, und zwar im umgangssprachlichen Sinn ||2. in https://de.wiktionary.org/wiki/klappen||. Seitdem weiß ich nicht, ob sie einfach lockerer sprechen wollten, oder ob der Unterschied, wo jedes Wort hingehört, eigentlich nicht so deutlich ist. Ich hab sogar eine Freundin aus Deutschland gefragt, was sie denkt, und sie meinte, "klappen" wäre schon akzeptabel bei einem Interview und ihrer Meinung nach wäre "klappen" nicht ugs.

[stable junco]

Ich denke, das ganze so auseinander zu nehmen, ist den Aufwand für das Wort klappen nicht wert. Es ist ein ganz normaler Ausdruck, den ich jetzt nicht als ugs oder nicht kategorisieren würde. Ich denke, dass es einfach so gebräuchlich ist, dass es quasi nicht mehr umgangssprachlich ist.

[fervent kernel]

Hallo is there here Native English?

[night dagger]

Yes.

[fervent kernel]

oh Hello lieb. are you Native English?

i just want to ask is this a proper english sentence?

My Professor has a free appointment

or this is better?

My Professor has a free time to have an Appointment

[night dagger]

Lol this channel is more for German questions but yeah, I would prefer the second. I would rather say: „My professor has some free time to meet.“, if it’s meant that the professor has time to sit down and discuss something with you or another person.

[swift bough]

This is a channel for questions about German

[fervent kernel]

wait

this will lead to German sentence

[night dagger]

„mein Professor hat Zeit für ein Gespräch.“ wäre das deutsche Äquivalent würde ich sagen

[fervent kernel]

because i have a probleme in my german class.

so I have this sentence in Netzwerk book.

ich warte noch darauf, dass die Chefin einen freien Termin hat

this makes me confused why not saying free time

can I post photo here?

[night dagger]

Deutsch ist Deutsch und Englisch ist Englisch

Ja.

[fervent kernel]

Okay warte, es wird zur Verfügung gestellt.

So my question was only for No. 5

i make the sentence like this. and my teacher say it was wrong. i was like wtf!!

ich warte noch darauf, dass ich einen freien Termin bei der Chefin haben kann

i was like, i didnt even think that it supposed to be the chefin who would have the free appointment. i would rather think it was the Chefin if the question was eine Freizeit. this thing makes me confused in learning German.

is it only me who dont get or is it actually confusing?

[night dagger]

ich würde da wohl nur die vorgegebenen Wörter für die Aufgabe verwenden.

aber es gibt ja verschiedene Arten, dieselbe Sache zu kommunizieren

[fervent kernel]

aber wärst du doch verwirrt, wenn du das Wort "freien Termin" sehen würde?

weil ich die Aufgabe leichter machen würde, wenn das wort "eine Freizeit" wäre

[night dagger]

nö

[mellow nova]

freien Termin would just be a set time that you can meet, no? in english an 'open slot'

an set time that she's not busy

[fervent kernel]

yes, this is what i mean. because i think germans think differentlz because they language is so hard. i wouldnt think that way with my native language

[night dagger]

„einen freien Termin“ wird häufig verwendet

[mellow nova]

maybe since English is my native language it makes sense

¯_(ツ)_/¯

free time and a free appointment/date/meeting are different things

[fervent kernel]

problem is in me then hahaha

but i think it doesnt matter a lot since i still think wise teacher would not critize the way i think since i have no grammatical Fehler in the sentence i wrote! hahaha

when I get to Germany this lil problem will be no problem cause i believe poeple there would understand what i mean

[night dagger]

klar aber der hört sich ein bisschen holprig an, finde ich

aber bin ja kein Muttersprachler

[fervent kernel]

mit diesem Satz "Ich warte noch darauf, dass ich einen freien Termin bei der Chefin haben kann"
Ich denke nicht

[gaunt smelt]

Hey guys which one do you guys think its right when i use this sentence "Ich habe mich für diese Ausbildung entschieden, weil ich seit meiner Kindheit Erfahrung und Leidenschaft für Computer und Informationstechnologie habe, so dass (or)damit ich dies später als Beruf ausüben kann".

[acoustic breach]

*sodass
both are correct

the difference for both konjunktion is that, if you are something happened unintentionally, you can only use sodass. e.g.: Ich habe den Bus verpasst, sodass ich spät zur Schule komme.
if you say damit ich spät zur schule komme, it means you intentionally missed the bus, so you could get late to school.
for situation where you are doing something intentionally (you want to do the ausbildung so that you could practise your knowledge), you could use both

[gaunt smelt]

Danke!

[night dagger]

„Computer und Informationstechnologie gehören seit meiner Kindheit zu meinen Leidenschaften, aufgrund dessen/aus diesem Grund/deshalb habe ich mich für diese Ausbildung entschieden und werde sie später als Beruf ausüben.“

[gaunt smelt]

Was ist der Unterschied zwischen weshalb und deshalb? kann ich hier weshalb benutzen?

[mellow nova]

deshalb is the answer to weshalb

[night dagger]

stimmt, und man kann weshalb da auch verwenden @gaunt smelt

[gaunt smelt]

"Computer und Informationstechnologie gehören seit meiner Kindheit zu meinen Leidenschaften, und da ich mich für IT-Systeme oder andere IT-Geräte interessiere sowie bereits Erfahrung mit Hardware-Komponenten am Computer habe, sind das meine Gründe, weshalb ich mich für diese Ausbildung entschieden habe und sie später als Beruf ausüben werde." What chu guys think?

[mellow nova]

i think that's a very long sentence for the information being conveyed

und da ich mich für IT-Systeme oder andere IT-Geräte interessiere sowie bereits Erfahrung mit Hardware-Komponenten am Computer habe, sind das meine Gründe,
^this is all repeated info and unnecessary

[gaunt smelt]

Then ill just put "Computer und Informationstechnologie gehören seit meiner Kindheit zu meinen Leidenschaften, weshalb ich mich für diese Ausbildung entschieden habe und sie später als Beruf ausüben werde. " Do you think this is enough ?

[cold iris]

"Der russischen Geherin Jelena Laschmanowa sind wegen Doping-Vergehens der Olympiasieg 2012 und der WM-Titel 2013 aberkannt worden."

What is going on with this sentence?

[delicate tiger]

Ihr sind Titel aberkannt worden (Passiv)

[cold iris]

What confuses me is why the "sind" is after her name I guess.

[mellow nova]

dative objects remain dative in Passiv

so the full 'subject' is der russischen... Laschmanowa

[cold iris]

wait im an idiot i misunderstood your answer

I know that the subject is that whole first part

but why is sind being used after a singular subject

or did you ansswer that and im just dumb lol

[mellow nova]

bc dative things can't be the actual subject

[cold iris]

oh so the sind goes for the titles

[mellow nova]

the wegen thing is plural

[cold iris]

oh I think I get it now, it's dative because it's "from subject indirect object", so it's From this person, the two titles were revoked

I just forgot that there didn't need to be an explicit "from" and it can just be the person's name in this case

[mellow nova]

Personally I think you're gonna trip yourself up trying to make sense of it like that

it's just simply a rule in German that dativ anything cannot be the subject

Er hat mir gesagt -> Mir wurde (es) gesagt

[cold iris]

oh wait yeah I didn't mean "from subject" I mean "from indirect object, the subjects were revoked"

[mellow nova]

here it's (using your words) a 'to subject'. There's gonna be plenty of random prepositions that english uses in place of this dative case

[cold iris]

ok

yeah as I said it's been like 7 years since I was in school and was taught this stuff

thanks btw

[mellow nova]

yop

[vast violet]

yep that's right. These titles have been stripped away from her. I think it'd be easier to understand saying it as
"Der Olympiasieg 2021 und der WM-Titel 2013 sind ihr wegen Doping-Vergehens aberkannt worden"

[frail wraith]

Wie viel kostet das oder was kostet das both are correct??

[glossy marsh]

Yes.

[frail wraith]

@glossy marsh thanks, what is the difference?

[glossy marsh]

How much does that cost
vs
What does it cost
respectively.

[frail wraith]

Dankeschön⚘

[twilit citrus]

In this sentence, "Am Abend spiele ich oft Videospielen aber, manchmal treffe ich meine Freunde." would you be able to remove the second ich? So for example:
"Am Abend spiele ich oft Videospielen aber, manchmal treffe meine Freunde."

[long whale]

*Videospiele (no -n), and comma before, not after the "aber". No, you can't drop the 2nd "ich". :)

[twilit citrus]

Oops, thanks a lot 😂

[whole portal]

Plural?

[swift bough]

It’s a bit more complex than that. „Kleine“ is also capable of being plural. As far as I understand „ihr“ basically has the same effect on adjectives that „die“ (plural) does.

(As a matter of fact kleinen is capable of being singular as well)

[celest pollen]

Wenn ich versuche, meine kreditkard an den Geldautomaten zu stecken. Eine Fehlermeldung erschienen✅ ❌

[bronze sparrow]

Als ich versuchte, meine Kreditkarte in den Geldautomaten zu stecken, erschien eine Fehlermeldung

[bronze sparrow]

Wenn -> bedingung. Das bedeutet, dass dann immer eine Fehlermeldung kommt.
Im deutschen steckst du etwas rein (Stecker in die Steckdose, Karte in den Geldautomat)

[long whale]

The verb is not in accordance with the subject (ihr) - otherwise, yes. :)

[tropic thistle]

So it seems to be a special case of how adjectives are handled after personal pronouns -- in the singular they take strong endings, in the plural the weak endings seem to be preferred particularly if used in direct address (so your example is good aside from the verb ending Susanna pointed out) although the strong ending (i.e. -e) is not considered wrong -- this is covered in Duden's grammar sec. 1529 according to multiple forums although I don't have a copy to consult at the moment

https://dict.leo.org/forum/viewGeneraldiscussion.php?idForum=10&idThread=1185474&lp=frde&lang=fr

https://grammatikfragen.de/showthread.php?1741-ich-Armer-wir-Armen

[weak mist]

but is it still correct this way?

[long whale]

If you mean weil wenn, no, it isn't correct. You'd have to say "denn wenn" :)

If you wanted to use "weil" and "wenn", you'd have to rephrase as "... weil es, wenn wir das nicht schaffen könnten, für die Menschheit sehr schwierig wäre, unsere..."

[fervent kernel]

Is this right : “X” ist sicher ein aktuelles und viel diskutiertes Thema, über das man sich oft Gedanken macht

[mellow nova]

yup

[fervent kernel]

Thank u!!

Are there also right: Man muss auch den öffentlichen Widerstand erwähnen
Ein häufig genanntes Beispiel dazu ist…

[long whale]

It's usually "für" with "Beispiel". Otherwise, yes. :)

[mellow nova]

dazu hierfür glaub ich

oop

[long whale]

Delli, "dafür" is fine. :)

[mellow nova]

hierfür hört sich besser an

[long whale]

Not in my opinion. :) But of course, you're entitled to yours. ;)

[mellow nova]

Since the topic was just mentioned I believe hierfür, same with 'this', works better than dafür, same with 'that' (not arguing just explaining why i think that)

[fervent kernel]

If I mention something before can I use dazu? I’m speaking about climate change and how the public don’t always want changes like wind turbines cause it’s Ugly. For example here:
Wenn es um Einschränkungen in unserm persönlichen Leben geht, fühlt man sich eingeschränkt und setzt sich dagegen ein. Ein häufig genanntes Beispiel dazu/dafür.
Is dafür better here to introduce an example where people show resistance against changes?

[long whale]

Mm, I see what you mean. IMO, though, the only good reason to use "hierfür" would be if you were talking about 2 things, i.e. hierfür - dafür :)

[mellow nova]

I think like Susana said you just simply use für in this situation

but also I would omit the 'fühlt man sich eingeschränkt'

it seems a bit repetitive imo

[long whale]

Mm... if I understand you right, it's got nothing to do with this. It's just that "Beispiel" usually goes with "für", see?

[mellow nova]

also if this is formal then unserm unserem

[fervent kernel]

Yeah I agree but I have a word count 💀💀

[fervent kernel]

That was a typo sorry!

[mellow nova]

ah ok it's a common shortened version

[fervent kernel]

Ahh okay thank you!

[long whale]

You might use "bedroht" instead of "eingeschränkt" (to avoid "eingeschränkt durch Einschränkungen" which is a bit... 🤢 ) :)

[fervent kernel]

Danke!!!

[long whale]

Out of curiosity, I just checked DWDS, and dafür is at 400+, while hierfür is at about 20. Which makes me think quite a lot of writers agree with me on "hierfür" being rather... objectionable, stylistically. Please don't ask me to give you a reason, though - I guess it's one of those things I got drummed into me as a child. :) @mellow nova

[plush pelican]

Question: I was trying to translate "They brought Ukrainians back to Germany" and DeepL gave me, "Sie haben Ukrainer zurück nach Deutschland gebracht."

zurückbringen is a separable verb, but can you put a prepositional phrase between the separated bits? Or is this just "bringen" and "zurück" is used here as an adverb or something? And if it's the latter, when and how do you differentiate between that and the separable verb zurückbringen?

[long whale]

It's an interesting question. Yes, I'd say it's adverb + verb here, yes, it's weird, but the main point is: you cannot use either zurück + bringen or zurückbringen in this context, since it would mean those Ukrainians had been in Germany in the first place. :) You'd either just use bringen or mitnehmen: nach D. mitgenommen. :)

[plush pelican]

Danke

[acoustic breach]

is there difference between zurückbringen vs zurück & bringen?

ich habe mein Kind nach zu Hause zurückgebracht
ich habe mein Kind zurück nach Hause gebracht

[long whale]

Meaning-wise? No, none. And this particular thingy will only work with very few verbs, I think, maybe mit-, zurück- combined with bringen/nehmen/gehen/kommen (I was just trying to construct a sentence like this with "einschalten" and it simply will not work). :)

Probably won't work in every context, even with bringen/nehmen. 🤔

[acoustic breach]

(Susana is like our very friendly teacher at school)

[long whale]

I'll take that as a nice compliment. 😊

To be on the safe side, I'd just use those verbs the way you use all other separable verbs - certainly when writing. :)

[acoustic breach]

Vielen Dank @long whale

[long whale]

@plain umbra I think you may be able to give a better answer to #questions-2 message. If you'd take a look at it, please?

[slim yew]

1 or 2?

[long whale]

Rule of thumb: if there are 2 versions of a verb, one with, the other without "be-", then the "be-" verb simply gets a direct object, while the one without the prefix requires a preposition. ;)

[slim yew]

thanks

[narrow pier]

Hallo guys, Ich habe eine frage, ist es ( Wir entschuldigen uns noch einmal ) oder ( Wie entschuldigen uns noch einmal )

[waxen moat]

ich denke Wir

[summer vapor]

Die wohnung ist leider 'SEHR' laut, aber ich bin nicht oft dort. Why we use sehr here instead of zu?

[narrow pier]

thanks

[narrow pier]

it basically means very

[summer vapor]

but zu is also okay for there.

[formal pulsar]

what does word "bedeuten" mean?

[summer vapor]

it means, mean

[formal pulsar]

thank you!

[final marlin]

Wir entschuldigen uns noch einmal. Your second statement is grammatically wrong.

[narrow pier]

sorry its from a book

how could you correct it

[final marlin]

Wie entschuldigen uns make no sense.

Wie = how ?

Wir = we

Your statement basically means. We apologise once again.

[narrow pier]

Thank you ao its okay to use

[rare cipher]

Wenn wir das Geschlecht einer Person nicht kennen, welches Pronomen verwenden wir dann?

[undone verge]

er oder sie, er/sie/ 'diese Person'. Wie würdest du das in deiner Muttersprache ausdrücken?

noch eine Option: raten und beten

[rare cipher]

In meiner Muttersprache gibt es nur ein Pronomen für die 3. Person Singular.

[rare cipher]

und es ist "o"

[undone verge]

das ist echt cool. Wäre super, wenn sowas ähnliches in der deutschen Sprache auch existieren würde.

[mystic oxide]

Bitte korrigieren mich

[rare cipher]

ja das ist super weil es keine Verwirrung stiftet

[hardy zinc]

I want to try to build a few sentences with modal verbs, please, correct me

• Ich will neues Auto kaufen
• Sie wollen zum Hause fahren
• Kannst du heute ins Kino gehen?
• Ihr muesst nicht eine Wohnung zu wohnen in Deutschland haben
• Warum magst du deinem Schwester?
• Wir sollen aufgehen heute

[dire wraith]

Es gibt eine Korrektur zu Ihren letzen Satz.
"Wir sollen heute aufgeben"

• das Verb immer kommt am Ende, und Temporal Verb (Heute) kommt im dritte Position.

[potent cloud]

• Ich will ein neues Auto kaufen
• Sie wollen zum nach Hause fahren
• Kannst du heute ins Kino gehen? ✅
• Ihr muesst nicht eine Wohnung zu wohnen in Deutschland haben?? (Can you tell me what you mean in English?)
• Warum magst du deinem Schwester?
• Wir sollen aufgehen heute(Do you mean go out? If so, Wir sollen heute ausgehen)

[hardy zinc]

4. You don't need to have an apartment to live in Germany

Oh, ausgehen, richtig 😅

Verstehe, danke

[potent cloud]

Maybe it would sound better with brauchen, and not with müssen then

[acoustic breach]

Ihr braucht keine Wohnung, um in Deutschland zu wohnen

But "Wohnung" here is weird

[lavish marlin]

Man braucht*

[radiant pilot]

vielleicht

"Man muss nicht eine Wohnung besitzen, um in Deutschland zu leben

"

[hardy zinc]

Why?

[weak mist]

I don't think the sentence makes sense in general

[acoustic breach]

Muss ......nicht besitzen

[weak mist]

You don't need to have an aparment to live in germany?

[radiant pilot]

yeah mb, i still have a problem with nicht

[hardy zinc]

Yeah, why not?

You can rent it

[weak mist]

where do you live then? on the streets or as in you can also live in a single family house for example? which one do you mean?

[acoustic breach]

Wohnung is generally like place to stay

[radiant pilot]

@weak mist he means " you don't need to own a house"

i think

[weak mist]

Man muss nicht eine Wohnung kaufen, um in Deutschland zu wohnen. Man kann eine auch mieten.

[hardy zinc]

Yeah, own an apartment

For some reason I thought wohnung is exactly apartment, nvm then

Thanks

[acoustic breach]

*Man

[weak mist]

typo sorri

[acoustic breach]

Man muss eine Wohnung nicht kaufen
I think "nicht" doesnt go at the front of "ein"

For most of the time

[weak mist]

I'm not sure 🤷‍♂️

[acoustic breach]

Im quite sure 😅

Sorry im trying to be indirect 😂

[weak mist]

Yeah makes sense

[radiant pilot]

i hate nicht

like wtf is that word

[weak mist]

Man muss keine Wohnung kaufen... ?

hatte maybe?

[acoustic breach]

That would be
One should not buy a Wohnung

[weak mist]

yeah that's what i thought

[acoustic breach]

To negate the "muss", you put the nicht at the end

[weak mist]

idk though

[radiant pilot]

yeah he's right

[hardy zinc]

Man muss eine Wohnung nicht kaufen?

[weak mist]

ye makes sense

[merry python]

This sounds pretty weird tbh

[radiant pilot]

that's why i think bestizen fits much better

besitzen*

[hardy zinc]

Wie moechtest du das sagen?

[merry python]

I wouldn't use "nicht" here

[radiant pilot]

can you make your statement klÄRER

BITTE

[radiant pilot]

** Warum sagst du das?**

[merry python]

I have to check the whole conversation

[hardy zinc]

That's not what I asked

[acoustic breach]

@merry python hier

[radiant pilot]

what was your actual question?

[hardy zinc]

I intended to ask "how would you say that"

[radiant pilot]

wie würde man das sagen?

[acoustic breach]

Oder
Wie würdest du das sagen

[hardy zinc]

Oh, didn't get to that verb yet it seems

[radiant pilot]

Würden= would

[hardy zinc]

Yeah, inferred

[merry python]

I would go with this version + the correction (leer) added.

Man braucht keine Wohnung, um in Deutschland zu wohnen.

[radiant pilot]

but hier it's Konjunktiv, so beware

[merry python]

You could also use "besitzen"

[radiant pilot]

he needs to use Modal verbs

rather, he must

[potent cloud]

I think they just tried to build some sentences for practice..

It was not an exercise with rules

[hardy zinc]

Yeah, though I was sort of practicing modal verbs

Whatever

[merry python]

Man muss keine Wohnung besitzen, um in Deutschland zu wohnen.

[hardy zinc]

I got what I needed XD, danke, Leute

[radiant pilot]

"I want to try to build a few sentences with modal verbs, please, correct me"

[acoustic breach]

You got more than what you expected 😂

[potent cloud]

Yes, but they kinda had a sentence in English in their head and wanted to translate it with modal verbs..In the translation they said (don't need to) so i suggested brauchen instead

[hardy zinc]

Absolutely

[radiant pilot]

that was actually a good occasion to showcase the difference between nicht dürfen and nicht müssen

@hardy zinc how would you say " you don't have to bring your umbrella today"

?

with a modal verb of course

[hardy zinc]

Du musst eine Regenschirm heute nicht bringen

@radiant pilot

[radiant pilot]

re-check the article+ the position of the temporal complement

[hardy zinc]

um

What's temporal complement?

[potent cloud]

@radiant pilot are you sure you are A level? xD

[radiant pilot]

heute

[hardy zinc]

Ah

[radiant pilot]

should i be 0 level?

[potent cloud]

lmao i meant higher, you seem to know a lot

more than A I mean

[hardy zinc]

"Du musst heute eine Regenschirm nicht bringen"

[lavish marlin]

der Regenschirm

[hardy zinc]

Why der?

[radiant pilot]

leer just pointed out that Regenschirm is masculine

[lavish marlin]

what i meant is that Regenschirm is masculine

[hardy zinc]

oh

"Du musst heute ein Regenschirm nicht bringen"

[lavish marlin]

now do that in Akkusativ

[potent cloud]

You have to use Akkusativ for that as well

[radiant pilot]

the declension of the definite article for a Masculine noun in Accusative is Den

indefinite einen

[hardy zinc]

Riiiight

[lavish marlin]

i think we are stressing him out

[radiant pilot]

it's okay he got the important part correct

[hardy zinc]

Einen for Akkusativ Masculine and Eine for Akkusativ Feminine, right

[lavish marlin]

noo

[hardy zinc]

Typos

[acoustic breach]

Yes now

[hardy zinc]

(ok so I made three types in two places, haha)

[lavish marlin]

einen = mask. akk.; eine = fem. akk

ah

you fixed it

[hardy zinc]

Ja

[radiant pilot]

@hardy zinc try to do this one " You are not allowed to shit here"

[lavish marlin]

lol

[hardy zinc]

._.

[potent cloud]

here we go again with his favorite verb

[acoustic breach]

Get a better verb😅

[hardy zinc]

Du kannst hier nicht [shitten]

[lavish marlin]

you are not allowed to smoke here

thats something you might see in real life

[radiant pilot]

wrong

there is a modal verb for that

[hardy zinc]

Duerfen?

Du darfst hier nicht rauchen

[radiant pilot]

kacken*

[lavish marlin]

you should use "man" when speaking about people in general

[radiant pilot]

[lavish marlin]

du is used only when speaking directly to someone

[hardy zinc]

Man duerft hier nicht rauchen?

[lavish marlin]

darf

man is in 3rd person singular

[hardy zinc]

Right

Man darft hier eine Wohnung kaufen

"here you can buy a house"

[lavish marlin]

for that you would just use "kann"

[hardy zinc]

oh right

[lavish marlin]

dürfen is about permission

[hardy zinc]

Gotcha

[lavish marlin]

and dürfen in 3rd person singular is darf

[hardy zinc]

Gib excercises

[radiant pilot]

dürfen tranlates better to " to be allowed"

[lavish marlin]

taking photos is not allowed here

[hardy zinc]

Man darf hier Fotos nicht machen

[radiant pilot]

fotografieren*

[hardy zinc]

._.

[acoustic breach]

Foto machen is also ok

[radiant pilot]

[final marlin]

Man darf hier nicht, Fotos zu machen.

[lavish marlin]

no

you dont have zu with a modal verb

[radiant pilot]

he just started, no need for zu+ infnitiv sentences

• that's wrong

[hardy zinc]

Gib mehr Aufgabes

[final marlin]

[lavish marlin]

and if you want to negate an indefinite noun you would use "kein"

Man darf hier keine Fotos machen

[radiant pilot]

@hardy zinc try this

"May i ask you something?"

[hardy zinc]

Darf ich dich etwas Fragen?

[north imp]

ja

[hardy zinc]

🥳

How do I apply for C2 certifikat

[radiant pilot]

close

i believe it's "dir"

[north imp]

no

[lavish marlin]

nope

[north imp]

its dich

[acoustic breach]

Frage dich
Antworte dir

[radiant pilot]

etwas?

[lavish marlin]

"darf ich dir eine Frage stellen" uses dir

[radiant pilot]

ich frage dir etwas

[lavish marlin]

no

its still dich

[potent cloud]

just make sure not to capitalize** fragen** it is infinitiv, not a noun here

[final marlin]

When you start arguing with ahcos and Susana for who is correct then you can apply for C2 👍 👍 👍

[radiant pilot]

what about etwas?

[hardy zinc]

Fair fair

[lavish marlin]

i think i've done that

[acoustic breach]

This sentence is correct

[radiant pilot]

i honestly don't get why

am i stupid?

[lavish marlin]

maybe you saw it wrong somewhere?

[final marlin]

How do you all determine whether to use mich or mir ? It gets confusing many times

[lavish marlin]

but fragen always takes an accusative object

[acoustic breach]

And you can have more than one akk object in a sentence

[north imp]

yes

obv

[radiant pilot]

there is already a first object in the sentence, as far as i know

which is etwas

[final marlin]

Like do you know before hand that the verb is a Dativ verb or something?

[lavish marlin]

ah

[radiant pilot]

and it is in acc

so the second one should be in Dat

[long whale]

No. You need to learn that, unfortunately. :)

[radiant pilot]

just like with " er gibt dem Kind den Ball"

[hardy zinc]

tfw my native lang has the same forms (Akkusativ/Dativ/etc) so I don't need to determine it most of the time XD

[acoustic breach]

There is no rule stating that "you have to use dativ if you already have a first akk object"

[north imp]

yes

[radiant pilot]

[north imp]

but captialize the Er

[hardy zinc]

Gib more tasks

[radiant pilot]

capitalizing is haram

• i'm a communist

[potent cloud]

same here 🇬🇷

[radiant pilot]

" I would like to shit here"

[acoustic breach]

Sollen wir zu einem anderen Kanal gehen?
Damit die anderen hier seine Fragen fragen können

#beginner-german ist ganz tot 😂

[final marlin]

Bestimmt. Wir brauchen eine Kanal, wo wir reden können? Gibt es eine Kanal wie es?

Ich sehe keine.

[hardy zinc]

I see you're comitted to it XD

Ich moechte hier kacken

[lavish marlin]

do you have a german keyboard installed?

[final marlin]

Ich bin auf meinem Handy.

[hardy zinc]

Nah, I'm not a fan of having 3 layouts

[radiant pilot]

Persönlich finde ich jenem Kanal sehr langsam

[hardy zinc]

Though on an ipad I still can do ü but I'm lazy ass

[radiant pilot]

weil die Leute die da sind eigentlich nicht diskutieren

[lavish marlin]

never been there

[radiant pilot]

you didn't miss much

[lavish marlin]

oof

didn't notice you were writing in german

[potent cloud]

personally i have EURkey, it is really convenient for me

[radiant pilot]

@hardy zinc "He wants to go by car"

[hardy zinc]

Er will fahren

[lavish marlin]

where is the car

[potent cloud]

How would you specify with a car? (:

[lavish marlin]

mit dem Auto

[long whale]

Try. ;)

[hardy zinc]

stolen, seen the prices?

Okay

[potent cloud]

I was asking W, oof

[hardy zinc]

Er will fahren mit dem Auto?

[lavish marlin]

ah, sorry for telling the answer

[long whale]

No, your word order is off - the infinitive comes last. :)

[hardy zinc]

Wb Er will fahren in den Auto?

[hardy zinc]

Ohhh richtig, so

Er will mit dem Auto fahren

Korrekt?

Gut, what about "Er will in den Auto fahren"?

[lavish marlin]

its like he wants to drive into another car

[radiant pilot]

@hardy zinc "Can you(Plural informal) help them?"

[long whale]

Not even that. It's not just the wrong preposition, it's the wrong case. :)

[lavish marlin]

i was trying to interpret it literally 🙂

[hardy zinc]

Dürft ihr sie helfen?

No doubt I messed up "them"

[lavish marlin]

them is in Dativ

[radiant pilot]

and the modal verb too

[long whale]

Yes, you did. Check a table, perhaps?

[hardy zinc]

ihren?

[long whale]

And "dürft ihr..." is "are you allowed to..."

No. Check a table, don't play guessing games. :)

@hardy zinc

[hardy zinc]

I checked the table 🥲
Okay, lemme try again

[radiant pilot]

honestly i would be afraid if i had you as my german teacher

[hardy zinc]

ihnen

[lavish marlin]

letting students figure things out themself is what good teachers do

[radiant pilot]

i würde in meinen Hosen kacken, wären Sie meine Lehrerin

ich*

[hardy zinc]

Thought it's a polite way to ask though?

[acoustic breach]

Susana ist die beste Lehrerin auf diesem Server

[long whale]

Nice one. And now for the modal verb...?

[radiant pilot]

Selbstverständlich

[long whale]

Well... Are you allowed to help them? is rather different than Can you help them? isn't it?

[hardy zinc]

Wdym?

[tropic thistle]

(the issue, just to circle back, is that you need to check the gender of Auto here for that interpretation)

[hardy zinc]

It'd be "Could you help them" as far as I read the book though..

Maybe I'm misunderstanding

[radiant pilot]

@hardy zinc keep in mind that Dürfen = to be allowed to, not "can"

[long whale]

Okay. You still wouldn't use "dürfen", though. :)

[lavish marlin]

i think this is the source of confusion

[radiant pilot]

i still don't get that

i think i will never do

[hardy zinc]

[radiant pilot]

hmm

[fervent kernel]

guten tag meine herren

[acoustic breach]

Yes, dürfen is translated to may/"to be allowed"

[radiant pilot]

that has a totally different meaning

[hardy zinc]

That's a way to ask, right

[radiant pilot]

yeah but what about other verbs or is fragen an exception?

[lavish marlin]

there are other verbs with 2 accusative objects

lehren, kosten, nennen for example

[radiant pilot]

the way you're saying it makes it seem like there aren't that much

[lavish marlin]

there aren't that many

[acoustic breach]

It's not a "rule" thing
It's just that, when you use "fragen", the asked person, and the asked question, both takes Akkusativ

That's all

Some verbs take 2 dativ, like helfen

[lavish marlin]

what do you mean

[radiant pilot]

an example please

since i've never seen that before

[acoustic breach]

Ich helfe dir beim Deutschlernen

[long whale]

Look, it's just like in English. You're asking for permission, you use "May I...?/Darf ich...?"

[radiant pilot]

you just used "bei"

[long whale]

But not when asking whether somebody is able to do something, right?

[lavish marlin]

that's a prepositional object

not sure if that's the right term

[long whale]

Like Could you move your car, please? not May you move your car, please?

[radiant pilot]

@hardy zinc

[hardy zinc]

oh right

And what's the verb used to ask someone to do something? Können?

[radiant pilot]

@long whale are there verbs that can take double dative?

Please

[radiant pilot]

that's still not on your level, i believe

[lavish marlin]

if you want to request something politely you would use Konjunktiv 2

[hardy zinc]

secrets, secrets, secrets

Okay, I'll be patient

Now time for past tenses

[radiant pilot]

don't worry about that, focus on learning those modal verbs+ their conjugations

[hardy zinc]

Gib more excercises on modal verbs then

[lavish marlin]

he doesn't want to go to the party

[hardy zinc]

Er will zum keine Party gehen

[lavish marlin]

Party is feminin

[radiant pilot]

why kein?

[lavish marlin]

and it's a definite noun

[hardy zinc]

Er will zum der Party nicht gehen?

[radiant pilot]

close

[lavish marlin]

zum means "zu dem"

[potent cloud]

zum=zu dem, so you are saying :Er will zu dem der Party nicht gehen

[hardy zinc]

._.

So, zur? Or it's not a thing?

[lavish marlin]

it's a thing

[hardy zinc]

Gotcha

Er will zur Party nicht gehen

And it's equivalent to "Er will zu der Party nicht gehen", richtig?

[lavish marlin]

the position of nicht feels a bit off

but yes, zur = zu der

[hardy zinc]

Wo soll das sein?

[lavish marlin]

er will nicht zur Party gehen

[radiant pilot]

even with a Past participle?

[hardy zinc]

Nicht is sticked to "zur Party" or to "will"?

[tropic thistle]

There's no past participle in this sentence, just a complementary infinitive

[radiant pilot]

i meant infinitive, sorry

mb then

[tropic thistle]

But to me the positioning after will sounds more natural if you're negating the entire sentence (that the person doesn't want to go) -- if you're trying to contrast that the person doesn't want to walk to the party but will drive, I might expect the negation near the infinitive

(The general rule, though there's plenty of flexibility, is that nicht precedes what's being negated -- here the entire idea of attending the party is what's being negated so it sounds most neutral there. That's also why putting it right before gehen puts the emphasis specifically on gehen as the thing you don't want to do.)

[potent cloud]

That makes sense. Danke für die Klarstellung.

[radiant pilot]

@hardy zinc

this might be a bit hard for you

but you can try

here you are supposed to use Modal verbs in the past

since you didn't do that, you can try to guess which modal verb fits more

without conjugating it

since you've asked for it, that's something on your level @hardy zinc

[hardy zinc]

First screenshot, C
2. In Sommer möchten sie Lena besuchen
3. Möchtest du einen Deutschkurs machen?
4. Ja, ich möchte einen Deutschkurs machen
5. Sylvie und Lena, möchtet ihr studieren?
6. Ja, wir möchten studieren

[delicate tiger]

❌: 2 ✅ : others

[radiant pilot]

in diesem Kontext passt "möchten" nicht

[prisma vigil]

Hallo ich möchte eine Rezension so schreiben. hört es sich natürlich an? Es gibt immer eine sehr kompetente und freundliche Beratung mit Herr. Mustermann. Ich bin mit den hochwertigen Modellen zufrieden. Ich kann diese Modellwerkstatt gerne weiter empfehlen.

[long whale]

Herr Mustermann berät seine Kunden immer sehr kompetent und freundlich. - weiterempfehlen (Rest is fine. Why the . after "Herr"? And it would be "von Herrn Mustermann", but trust me, my version is better. :)

[prisma vigil]

Danke schön! Oh I put it unconsciously. Interesting 🙂

[ornate shuttle]

Hallo Leute

Kann ich selbstverständlich und sicherlich verwenden wie ***natürlich?????

[long whale]

selbstverständlich and natürlich can be used synonymously, but sicherlich is used differently. :)

@ornate shuttle

[ornate shuttle]

könntest du mir ein Beispiel geben?

Über sicherlich

[long whale]

ein Beispiel für sicherlich: Sicherlich waren die meisten Leute entsetzt, als sie vom Kriegsausbruch erfuhren (I'm sure most people...)

[ornate shuttle]

Herzlichen Dank!

[river badge]

hi

hello

[pallid gyro]

I'm trying to get a sense of the meaning of 'Kripobeamter' from duden; would it be correct to say it's a police officer specifically assigned to violent crimes?

[upper lynx]

Kripo is Kriminalpolizei, that's simply a special Branch of the police.

Kriminalpolizei are the guys that investigate crime, rather than do traffic stops and such

[pallid gyro]

ohhh, I see thank you very much!

[upper lynx]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kriminalpolizei

Has an english wikipedia page!

[pallid gyro]

oh, and would Kripobeamter necessarily imply we're speaking about an officer, or could it just be some white collar person working in the department?

[pallid gyro]

woah, great! thanks for the reference

[upper lynx]

People in the department generally wear uniforms too! If officers wear normal clothes you call that "Zivil"

Zivilstreife, for example

People working in the department are officers too

[pallid gyro]

ohhhh I see, that explains everything

thanks a lot for all the explanations!!

[upper lynx]

The officer status in germany is held to somewhat high regard and generally awarded for life. You will never be fired unless you commit a felony

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beamter

Not sure if it the same in your country

[pallid gyro]

very cool

[pallid gyro]

huh, I was translating 'Beamter' in my head as just anyone working in the public sphere, didn't know it was actually a specific legal category

[upper lynx]

it is, Beamte have a special status. Teachers, Policemen and such are Beamte.

Postmen used to be too

[pallid gyro]

"For example, the state can only fire Beamte if they commit a felony." woah, the dream

[upper lynx]

They'll only be placed in a different Position or get fined, but there is no real way for them to kick Beamte out.

[pallid gyro]

the social democratic dream hehe

[upper lynx]

Some people like it, others don't. But certainly just translating it to Officer won't do it justice.

[pallid gyro]

yeah I'm keeping that in mind, definitely

[radiant pilot]

what if i wanna say Polic Officer?

[upper lynx]

Just "Polizist" or "Polizeibeamter"(as they are all Beamte)

[radiant pilot]

Thank you !

[sharp goblet]

What's the difference between 'Legen' and 'Stellen'

[mellow nova]

legen is when you place something lying down horizontally on a surface and stellen is when you place something standing up, like a floor lamp

[sharp goblet]

I get it! Danke

[queen oyster]

die Praktikantin – ein wichtiges Dokument – löschen?

May I know how to construct this sentence to a past tense one?

Is it Die Praktikantin hat ein wichtiges Dokument gelöscht?

[swift bough]

You need to know which helping verb löschen uses in the present perfect as well as what the participle for it is.

[swift bough]

Yes

[vast violet]

Unterschied zwischen drin und drinnen? Danke im voraus

[queen oyster]

Then for this?

ihr – Schokolade aus Belgien – essen?

Is it Ihr habt Schokolade aus Belgien gegessen?

[mellow nova]

https://www.reddit.com/r/German/comments/6sk01p/difference_between_drin_and_drinnen/

[queen oyster]

or does the habt need to be in front?

[mellow nova]

yes verbs are first in questions

[queen oyster]

So Habt ihr Schokolade aus Belgien gegessen?

[mellow nova]

yes

[queen oyster]

If verbs needs to be first, why isnt this verb in the first one?

[swift bough]

Because it’s a statement, not a question

[vast violet]

Are you formulating a question or a sentence?

[mellow nova]

I mean if you want a question then it would be first

both are correct sentences

[queen oyster]

Its a question

[swift bough]

Then you did it incorrectly

[vast violet]

Danke sehr delli

[mellow nova]

+gerne

[swift bough]

Hat die Praktikantin ein wichtiges Dokument gelöscht?

[queen oyster]

So then it should be Hat Die Praktikantin ein wichtiges Dokument gelöscht?

[swift bough]

Is how the question would have to be

[queen oyster]

oops

okay thanks

[hardy zinc]

"Gestern habe ich gespielt" sounds good?

[potent cloud]

yes sounds great (:

[hardy zinc]

"Hast du schon geschlaufen?" - wb this one?

[potent cloud]

what do you want to say?

[hardy zinc]

Have you already slept

[potent cloud]

geschlaufen, then 🙂

without the u

[hardy zinc]

ah right

[potent cloud]

if you mean to say*** fall ***asleep tho, then you say ''Bist du schon eingeschlafen?''

[next wren]

Hallo, Ich brauche Hilfe. Sind diese Sätze richtig?

1)Hast du schon gefrühstückt?

Ich habe schon gefrühstückt.
Schon habe ich gefrühstückt.

2)Hast du schon Frühstück gegessen?

Ich habe schon Frühstück gegessen.
Frühstück habe ich schon gegessen.
Schon habe ich Frühstück gegessen.

[long whale]

None of them is wrong. However, the ones using "frühstücken" are far more common/idiomatic than those with "Frühstück essen". Plus, those starting with "schon" would require extremely specific context to make sense. :)

[next wren]

Thank you. So it's more common to use question 1 than question 2?

[long whale]

Yes, definitely. :)

[next wren]

And how about lunch and dinner?
Are these good enough?
Can zu to be omitted?

Hast du schon zu Mittag gegessen?
Ich habe schon zu Mittag gegessen.
zu Mittag habe ich schon gegessen.

Hast du schon zu Abend gegessen?
Ich habe schon zu Abend gegessen.
zu Abend habe ich gegessen.

[long whale]

These are fine, and no, "zu" can not be omitted. :)

[next wren]

Thank you so much!😄

[hardy zinc]

Ist das korrekt? "Was hast du gebracht?"

[long whale]

Mm... No. It'doesnt make any sense. What are you trying to say?

(It's correct, grammar-wise, though.)

[potent cloud]

Does any native say Sonnabend for Saturday?

[long whale]

Lots of us do. There are maps showing where Sonnabend is used over Samstag. In Standard German, it's Samstag, though.

[potent cloud]

Okay, danke

I will just have it in the back of my brain, not that I will use it but yeah

[wise pendant]

It's very common in the North

[potent cloud]

First time I am seeing it in a Vocabulary list..But I have only stayed in RP soo..

[hardy zinc]

"what have you brought"/"what did you bring"

[long whale]

As in "We were all supposed to bring some food or a bottle of something, so, what did you bring"?

That would be "Was hast du mitgebracht?"

[hardy zinc]

More like just asking what they brought

Ah, mitgebracht is brought with you?

Okay, danke

[whole portal]

The first sentence of the second bit is definitely common as well, the second one is either just kinda old or only commonly applied in certain context (to stress Frühstück) and the last one would even sound like straight from a poem if you wanted to stress the Schon.

[pallid gyro]

"der Fahndungsbrief" is this some sort of 'wanted' poster, or is it literally some sort of letter?

[whole portal]

The first

[pallid gyro]

achso, thanks a lot!

[narrow pier]

yes

go to zlibrary and download the zip by dieter

it was released on 2020

[radiant pilot]

link please?

[narrow pier]

okay

where do you live

because it might be illegal, i have no problem with that cause I live in iraq

[radiant pilot]

so i was right last time, you're from ME

morocco

don't care

our land used to be land of pirates

might as well preserve the tradition

[narrow pier]

it says i cant send the link but just go to zlibrary and type in ( Deutsch test für Zuwanderer )

thats the book

[hoary night]

Danke!

[narrow pier]

just do the hearing part cause its a 156 pages

[narrow pier]

bitte

[radiant pilot]

thank you

[narrow pier]

https://tenor.com/view/love-gif-24630712

[mellow nova]

[narrow pier]

hi guys I have a question its a listening part its a Flughafen and its says , ( Pferde Fahrgäste ) and this means horses passengers, but the website which auto generated that , so is there any word in german thats close to pferde and goes with fahrgäste

[delicate tiger]

"Verehrte"?

[final marlin]

Seems logical to me...

Both are same...

[wintry geode]

Can you maybe show us the listening?

[final marlin]

No, sorry, I just found out, both are not same. Pferd is more human sounding.

[narrow pier]

let me see if i can

its right at the start of the audio

[wintry geode]

What time?

[narrow pier]

right at the begininng

just 10 seconds in

[wintry geode]

"Verehrte Fahrgäste"

[narrow pier]

yes you were correct thank you

and one ,more thing does gleis mean gate

like is gleis used at flughafen and in bahnhoff

[final marlin]

Gleis means platform number

Gleis is used at Bahnhof, Gate at Flughafen

[narrow pier]

so Gate is in german too

[final marlin]

Ja.

[narrow pier]

and gleis is just means the platform,,, ok thanks

[wintry geode]

Das linke Gleis heißt C10 und das rechte C11. Es wird nur für Bahnhöfe verwendet.

[final marlin]

Es heißt 11C. nicht C11;

[wintry geode]

weil man von hinten draufschaut

[narrow pier]

oh so it says you are going from from the bahnoff to flughafen

[upper lynx]

(was about to correct you lol)

[narrow pier]

oh my god

[upper lynx]

Actually usually you'd say Gleis 10 Abschnitt C

Or I guess 10C

at least here

[final marlin]

Well, the train must be taking you to the nearest station to Airport.

[narrow pier]

but isnt there platform numbers in airports too, like the platform is called gleis and the gate is called Gate

[upper lynx]

Cause usually only the number matters, rarely there will be multiple trains lines up on one platform at different positions, that's when you'd use the letter

[narrow pier]

ok thanks

so I didnt understand the airport one ( I have never travelled before ) do the platforms also called gleis

[upper lynx]

The Gates are usually just called "Gates" In german tbh. There might exist a german term as well, but people just call them Gates.
Gleis is just for trains.

Google says they are called "Flugsteig", but honestly I've never heard anyone use that term in my life.

[ember quartz]

I noticed that a lot of times there's a "ja" sitting in the sentence without obvious purpose, like in "Vielleicht hat sie es ja nur vergessen" or "Ich komme ja nicht zum lesen"
Could anyone explain what it's doing there? :)

[final marlin]

its a partikel. It is there to make the life of foreigners hell.

Modalpartikel is the term.

[ember quartz]

into hell I go 🙏

thank you :D

[pallid gyro]

When talking about upcoming events, is there a significant difference between herannahend and bevorstehend?

[long whale]

No, I don't think so. :)

[pallid gyro]

great, thank you!!

[delicate tiger]

herannahend: Naturkatastrophen; bevorstehend: Veranstaltungen

[pallid gyro]

thanks for the input!!

[long whale]

🤔 https://www.dwds.de/wb/herannahen

[delicate tiger]

dann etwas allgemeiner: etwas negatives; etwas, was man fürchtet

[fervent kernel]

why space here in stumm schalten? what difference to stummschalten?

[ornate shuttle]

Gibt es in der deutschen Sprache etwas wie dass wenn?

Z.b. er hat mir gesagt, dass wenn ich ins Kino gehen will , muss ich ihm davon berichten.

[upper lynx]

Ich denke das kann man so machen. Ich hätte es wohl etwas anders formuliert, vielleicht "Er hat mir gesagt, dass wenn ich ins Kino gehen will, Ich ihm davon berichten soll."

[light rain]

Ich denke, dass es richtig ist

[narrow pier]

S8 fährt heute nicht von gleis zehn, sondern, von gleis zwölf ab wir bitten um Ihr Verständnis., does this statement make sense, i dont understand what the (ab) means here

[tiny wave]

It is a part of the verb. abfahren is the infinitive of the verb.

[delicate tiger]

"S8 fährt heute nicht von Gleis Zehn, sondern von Gleis Zwölf ab. Wir bitten um Ihr Verständnis." removing the errors

[weak mist]

abfahren means to depart @narrow pier

fahren would just mean drive

[upper lynx]

There are some other use cases for abfahren. It can also mean really liking something("auf etwas abfahren"). And it can mean to ram someone's car mirror.
If you depart with your car you'd usually say "losfahren".

"Spiegel abgefahren" is a phrase you hear surprisingly often, lol.

[narrow pier]

i think i just set the capital , lower cases wrong, oder?

[narrow pier]

what does this mean, to break a mirror

[upper lynx]

If someone drives by your car too closely (usually whole overtaking) and rams the mirror off your car

Anyway, in your case abfahren just means depart.

[narrow pier]

oh you mean the side view mirror

[upper lynx]

Yes

Ramming the Interior mirror would be strange

[narrow pier]

yeah😆

[final marlin]

Maybe.....

[narrow pier]

depart your car, so if a car , or a train, or even someone you love ditches you, you say abfahren

[upper lynx]

Not really, just with trains really

[final marlin]

Es gibt immer Möglichkeiten, etwas zu passieren.

[upper lynx]

Or busses

[narrow pier]

losfahren, like if is any reason you got departed from car, its losfahren, ?

[upper lynx]

If you start to drive with a car you say losfahren, for trains it's abfahren, for aircraft it is abfliegen

[narrow pier]

oh, german is too specific

[upper lynx]

Sometimes lol

[narrow pier]

so is it used normally, like using losfahren, when you go to the gym

and i think its trennbare oder?

[upper lynx]

Depends on the mood of transport wich word you use

[narrow pier]

so its negative , okay i see

[shut briar]

Inhaltlich gefällt es mir, dass sie kämpfen für sich selbst, für ihre Kinder und außerdem für was gerecht ist.

Now I know that in Nebensätze verb comes at the end but that is sort of ruining the tone that I want for this sentence. Is there a way out? A different phrasing perhaps?

[narrow pier]

hi, (ich bitte sie um einen rückruf deswegen melden sie sich bei frau mass sekretariat) what does this mean, the translator doesnt do it that well

what does sich melden mean

[proven sphinx]

It simply means to get back to them, to contact that person.

[narrow pier]

so that man says call me back so that my secretary can call you back?

[proven sphinx]

It's rather that his secretary handles these calls, so you have to call her rather than him directly.

[narrow pier]

so the man is talking to audio the listener ( me ) he isnt talking directly to the employeed

thank you

[proven sphinx]

Wait, I don't know about that.

It could be both.

He's simply addressing some person and telling them to call his secretary.

[narrow pier]

if you can ,listen to audio

and skip to second 31

[narrow pier]

this makes sense

[proven sphinx]

Ah, now I get it.

So yeah, he's speaking to a potential candidate for the job, telling "Frau Aries" to call his secretary about whether that new date for the job interview is fine.

[narrow pier]

is Volkshochschule mitte like or is the mitte attached to the whole word

[narrow pier]

oh

so i think aries s answring machine picked

or no need to overcomplicate

thank youuu

[proven sphinx]

In German, you can call that both "Seitenspiegel" and "Außenspiegel".

"Außenspiegel" seems to be the more official word for it, though.

[fervent kernel]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=qBS730wxdZA&t=240s

@proven sphinx at 7:34 the fat woman tells the customer to buy the washing powder elsewhere right?

[long whale]

Yes.

[frail wraith]

Hallo, what is the difference between" Befehl, Auftrag and pflicht??

[cursive lion]

Befehl is an order in like the military
Auftrag is more like a task
and pflicht is a duty

[long whale]

Using a good dictionary like Pons usually helps. :)

[frail wraith]

All are translated to "order,, btw thank you i will use it

[long whale]

Befehl (order, as in officer to soldier: Do this!), Auftrag (order, customer to salesman, boss to employee: Please deliver this), Pflicht (duty, as in You have to do your duty)

[cursive lion]

.

[fervent kernel]

Nice I can understand the main context usually. Just not the details

[frail wraith]

Thank you very much🙏🏻

[long whale]

The thing is, in certain kinds of context, all three may translate to "order", but if you check a good dictionary, it'll usually give you a good idea of where the difference lies. :)

[frail wraith]

🙏🏻🙏🏻

[fervent kernel]

Bedrückt means what ?

[long whale]

Can mean depressed, but usually not in the sense of a long-term state/illness, more like when you have a bad problem/are feeling quite guilty about something.

[fervent kernel]

That's a good explanation thx

[ornate shuttle]

@long whale
Kann ich etwas wie dass wenn verwenden

Z.b. er hat mir gesagt, dass wenn ich ins Kino gehen will. Ich soll ihm davon berichten

[long whale]

Verb form and word order/grammar (after "will") aren't right. - Apart from that, yes, you will hear this, but please don't write it. :)

[ornate shuttle]

Danke

[long whale]

... gehen will, ich ihm davon berichten soll

But far, far better to do it right: Er hat zu mir gesagt, dass ich ihm davon berichten soll, falls ich ins Kino gehe. :)

[ornate shuttle]

Okkk

[prisma vigil]

Könnte jemand meinen Satz korrigieren? 🙏 Danke im Voraus!! : Die Mitarbeiter des Theaters sind in wenigen Tagen nacheinander mit Corona angesteckt. Deshalb bleibt die Vorbereitung auf Vorführung des Theaters noch bei 70% fertig.

[frank comet]

Skifahren ist einen guten Sport weil mann Berg sehen kann. Menschen kann mit Freunde treffen und hat einen gutes zeit mit uns. Ich finde, dass Skifahren ist sehr gut für Gesundheit. Der Berg ist sehr gut wenn es hat Schnee.

are all the nouns capitalized in German?

[cursive lion]

yes

[charred harbor]

There are a few errors in here ^^;

ist einen guten Sport
"Einen guten" is accusative but "sein" takes nominative case, not accusative.
mann Berg sehen kann
It should be "man", not "mann" (which looks like "Mann") and presumably "Berge" would be better than "Berg"
Menschen kann mit Freunde treffen und hat einen gutes zeit mit uns
"Menschen" is plural form but "kann" is singular, so the conjugation there isn't correct. Also "Freunde" becomes "Freunden" in dative case. Obviously "hat" is also singular which should be made into plural form to fit with "Menschen", and "einen gutes"... doesn't make sense. If it were masculine it would be "einen guten", and if it were neuter it would be "ein gutes". In this case it should be "eine gute", because Zeit is feminine.
Ich finde, dass Skifahren ist sehr gut für Gesundheit
"Dass" moves the verb to the end, so it wouldn't be in the middle like this.
Der Berg ist sehr gut wenn es hat Schnee.
"Wenn" similarly moves the verb to the end, so the "hat" would be after the "Schnee" (I'd personally say "wenn es schneit" though)

Hope this helps @frank comet

[pallid gyro]

i am obligated to thank you for the long explanation @charred harbor

[frank comet]

She’s amazing

Or he

[charred harbor]

Haha, no problem 😆

[frank comet]

Or they

[charred harbor]

Thanks haha

[frank comet]

Sorry don’t know your pronouns

[charred harbor]

I'm fine with literally any pronoun to be honest 😆

[upper lynx]

Just ask~

[unique dune]

des nächsten

[upper lynx]

Des

I don't know what a blink is

[unique dune]

depends on whether its plural or singular

then its der nächsten

[upper lynx]

Yup

Ah

[unique dune]

but its one audio clip i assume

[upper lynx]

Does she mean 1 or multiple though?

[unique dune]

because its genitive

des Blinks

[upper lynx]

If it is plural, it would be der

People misspeak sometimes

[unique dune]

either way, if its plural then its not a grammatical mistake

since des Blinks is still correct

just mixing up sigular and plural

[upper lynx]

Well, yeah

Well, for plural it would need to be der

If she says des it would be singular

If it is supposed to be plural, der is correct