#archived-culture-study-visa

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alpine hollow
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but it also depends on where you study anyway

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you should aim for apartments for about 300-600 per month, depending on location

fleet pelican
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That's for a bachelor's

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Yes?

alpine hollow
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?

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that's general prices for someone who is not earning money

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depending on location

fleet pelican
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No

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Aigh

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Or a masters

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That's for a 3 year uni course

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Is that*

surreal ermine
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It only took me about a month to get accepted into a Studentenwohnheim thinking_cat

brisk lotus
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@surreal ermine which city

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in Munich I'm still waiting and it's my 2nd semester

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still have one semester to go

surreal ermine
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Bochum haha

brisk lotus
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oh 😅

surreal ermine
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That explains it doesn't it mmlol

brisk lotus
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When I get a place from the studentenwerk I'll pay half what I pay now -.-

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yep haha

surreal ermine
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Isn't Munich hella expensive

brisk lotus
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it is super expensive and hard to find a place

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the Studentenwerk is your only hope here

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But it's kinda worth it

rugged folio
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Is it possible to take Investigative Journalism in University in Germany?

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I already tried to look for it on the internet many times but it's always inconclusive

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Wait why am I orange

ocean basalt
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When you take >Getrole Level A you become orange

rugged folio
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But I already changed to level B🤔

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Let me do it again

exotic barn
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I probably say you had two roles and removed one

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Saw*

ocean basalt
rugged folio
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Does it work now?

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Oh

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Ohhh

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:D

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Okay now that this is out of the way

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I'm considering going for engineering but I'm afraid it'll be too much of a mental strain on me so I'll take Investigative Journalism as well but idk if I can do that only in a training school

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I'd like to take it in University as well for the sake of practicality, besides idek if with Abitur I can attend a training school

brisk lotus
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There's some difference between journalism and engineering, so you might wanna make up your mind 😄

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What do you mean

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oh yea

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true

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totally opposite

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hehe

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shoot

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Same I believe

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I mean whenever you wanna change uni

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you have to get accepted

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and after you enroll, you show your new uni the credits you already have

alpine hollow
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really big protip

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unless you have no life

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or two brains

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don't do two majors

alpine hollow
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if you can split your body in half

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sure do it

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there's just no reason to do it

solemn bay
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Are double majors common in Germany?

alpine hollow
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no

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do them after another

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not at once then

silent pilot
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don't sleep then

alpine hollow
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if you wanna have an about 70 hours per week working schedule

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sure

solemn bay
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The difficulty may depend on how good the specific uni does their double majors... You might want to look into that if you are going to do it.

alpine hollow
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no

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i mean during studying

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without getting any money

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good luck pulling perfect grades with no sleep

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then

brisk lotus
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going to work, ending your shift and going home isn't like taking care of several courses

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once you're home after work, that's it. done. sleep.

alpine hollow
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yeah good luck with that

brisk lotus
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In order for you to achieve your full potential, it'd be a better idea to focus on one major. it's for your own good.

solemn bay
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Even one major is hard. 😦

alpine hollow
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yeah

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how about you study one semester first

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before deciding for two

silent pilot
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at least on my uni, there are several double-Bachelors for social sciences - dunno if that helps you

brisk lotus
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@exotic barn you might be able to pull it off eventually after some hard work and sleepless nights. but no matter what, your results won't be as good.

alpine hollow
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see if you can even survive one semester

solemn bay
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My uni doesn't even allow double majors because it's not the best way, in their opinion, to do a degree.

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Which isn't really a scientific example, but it's something?

brisk lotus
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That's up to you how your day would look like xD

alpine hollow
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you decide your own schedule

solemn bay
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There are a lot of other options though for adding stuff to degrees, depending on the uni.

alpine hollow
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also don't forget that you will have double the courses

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and there will be conflicting schedules

solemn bay
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Like do German unis have diplomas and stuff too?

alpine hollow
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so you have to decide for one or the other

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tbh the worst part will be that all the courses will conflict

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and you will never be able to visit all of them

solemn bay
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I think part of deciding your studies ends up being that you have to learn to make sacrifices. No matter how much you want to study, you have to be selective.

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And, also, most similar degrees will lead to the same place in the end.

alpine hollow
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some stuff can technically work tho if they are closely related

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if you do math/physics major for example, a lot of the maths stuff overlap

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so you can save a bit of time

solemn bay
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Maths/other can work pretty often.

alpine hollow
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at least in bachelor

silent pilot
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at least here it is this way: you'll spend about 20-25 hours/week actually attending lectures and then the university expects you to do twice that amount at home in excercises or studying (depending on you and your degree, that is variable). So just going by that, you'll have a pretty busy week.

alpine hollow
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our uni expects us to do 30 credit points per semester and they estimate 30 hours spent per credit point

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so you are expected to spend 900 hours each semester on uni alone

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you have about 150 days per semester, let's say that

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so you are already expected to spent 25% of all your time on uni

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not calculating in travelling, food, sleeping or maybe a life

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if you do two majors, you gonna need to do 60 credit points per semester

brisk lotus
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37,5 days out of the 150 as Selbststudium

alpine hollow
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so you already load up 50% of your whole life for uni alone

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not withstanding travelling, food, sleeping or maybe a life

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and also non-expected stuff like illness

compact slate
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in Israel we have some triple majors but it's rare

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and really well put together

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usually sciences

brisk lotus
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@compact slate triple ? got a link for that ? 😮

alpine hollow
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you are crazy

compact slate
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@brisk lotus Not sure if there's one in English

alpine hollow
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but go for it if you like

brisk lotus
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@exotic barn but not 100% of the 50% is what you like doing

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specially in bachelor programs

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many extras

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then go for a triple

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What? seriously

silent pilot
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what field do you want to study in?

brisk lotus
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Go for a triple.

silent pilot
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and?

alpine hollow
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there's a major in germany called technische informatik

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that combines both

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what people like to do

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is finishing a bachelor in one first

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and doing master's and bachelor's of the other major afterwards

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and you don't know what you like to do yet

compact slate
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@brisk lotus Can't find in English

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but nevertheless double majors are very common here

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most are CS + Science(Bio, Phys, Chem)

alpine hollow
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tbh, i am not sure how the regulations for foreigners for doing double majors are

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if they are even any

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but you will see quickly if it's working out for you

compact slate
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How common is it for foreigners to study for B.A in germany?

silent pilot
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Bachelor of Arts?

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It depends on the field of study

compact slate
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yeah

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Like doing your B.A in germany

silent pilot
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Like in Chemistry, you can't do a B.A., only a B.Sc.

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there are a lot of people from other countries at every uni

compact slate
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Computer Science for example

solemn bay
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Can you do a B.A. in Chemistry in other countries?

compact slate
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Like it's less a problem for me because I have a citizenship

brisk lotus
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@compact slate CS isn't B.A. ?

compact slate
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but still

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@brisk lotus it isn't?

alpine hollow
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🤔

compact slate
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oh

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I mixed the terms

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we don't distinguish between them here

silent pilot
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it's only in name here too

compact slate
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we just say first/second degree

silent pilot
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i don't know of any degree that has both B.A. and B.Sc.

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Ah

alpine hollow
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we just say Bachelor/Master

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:o

silent pilot
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^ yeah

compact slate
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yeah

alpine hollow
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economics apparently can choose between getting B.A and B.Sc

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not sure how it works there 🤔

compact slate
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my question was how common is it for foreigners to do their Bachelor in germany

silent pilot
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ah, i guess one is more theoretical/for doing research than the other

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there are a lot of people from other countries doing their Bachelors here, Masters is more common i'd say, but still

brisk lotus
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@compact slate I'm doing my Bachelor in Germany

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Just like thousands around the world

compact slate
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I still need to see how I convert my high school diploma to Abi like thing

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@brisk lotus in what?

brisk lotus
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CS

alpine hollow
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drum roll

brisk lotus
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@compact slate it's easy to convert it

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lol

compact slate
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but like how do they grade it

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mine's a bit above average here

brisk lotus
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Your average can be up to 100

compact slate
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but it means nothing

brisk lotus
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in Germany it gets converted like 1.0 is the best

alpine hollow
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do you know what you wanna study in germany if at all?

brisk lotus
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What's your Bagrut's average ?

compact slate
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yeah CS or the likes

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not entirely sure yet

alpine hollow
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your grades don't really matter to much for sciences

compact slate
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92.5~

alpine hollow
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except biology and some weird chemistry stuff

brisk lotus
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That's enough to study anything in Germany, except for Medicine

compact slate
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bonuses not included

brisk lotus
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bonuses aren't included when converting to Abitur

compact slate
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ok

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wait are you from Israel? 😮

brisk lotus
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maybe 🤔

alpine hollow
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maybe 🤔

compact slate
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🤔

silent pilot
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the averages for getting accepted are different in each uni and field, but if 92.5 is a percentage, you should be fine

compact slate
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92.5 is the avg of all the classes I took

alpine hollow
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your german certificate will be more important at this point then^^

brisk lotus
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yea just get the language certificate and you're good to go

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no need for Studienkolleg either

silent pilot
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also: headpats for being a good student

compact slate
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😃

silent pilot
alpine hollow
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oh, and saving up about 9k euro

silent pilot
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the last one especially

compact slate
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thanks I will

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well I'm planning to work for a year before moving @alpine hollow

brisk lotus
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You can ask anything here, I'm familiar a bit with the whole Israeli/German conversion.

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Not sure why I know it, but I do 😛

sick imp
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But can anyone explain the channel name??

alpine hollow
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if you gonna apply for around munich

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also learn to play FIFA

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🙂

brisk lotus
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🎉

silent pilot
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i only know Brazilian/German conversion - it's about 7 Brasilians to make 1 German

brisk lotus
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lmao

compact slate
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@alpine hollow Munich is expensive as hell tho

alpine hollow
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maybe if you suddenly earn a loooot of money 🤔

brisk lotus
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Israelis are rich!

alpine hollow
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oh

compact slate
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nope

alpine hollow
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also there can be some scholarships for jewish/foreign people

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depending on uni

compact slate
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I guess the german citizenship gonna save a lot of trouble for me though

silent pilot
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being in the holy land, you'd think god would've left some money

alpine hollow
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worth looking it up if you are jewish

compact slate
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I am

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and I will

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wait

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but does it work if I'm a citizen?

alpine hollow
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my uni basically handed out scholarships for any jewish student for a few semesters

compact slate
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@silent pilot God has left us

brisk lotus
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yea the German citizenship eliminates the requirement for 9K

silent pilot
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especially then i think

compact slate
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cool

alpine hollow
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not sure if they still do it

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but they did

compact slate
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I'm gonna milk that citizenship

brisk lotus
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I mean you'll still need the money, but don't have to show proof and have a blocked account

alpine hollow
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so i guess other unis might have similar scholarships

sick imp
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How do they check that you're really Jewish? 🤔

compact slate
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studying german comes first though

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should I wear a kippa?

alpine hollow
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well a friend of mine has "race: jew" in his passport

sick imp
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Lol.

compact slate
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!

alpine hollow
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he's originally from russia

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and apparently being jewish is a race in some parts of russia

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🤔

silent pilot
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Die Höhe der Förderung beträgt maximal 597 € pro Monat (berechnet nach BAföG). Zusätzlich erhalten Stipendiaten 300 € Studienkostenpauschale pro Monat unabhängig vom Einkommen der Eltern.```
compact slate
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well

brisk lotus
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@alpine hollow true, true. it exists on the passport.

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not on the newer ones though

compact slate
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there's ethnic jew and religious jew

alpine hollow
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oh, right, yeah

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not sure how it is for the jewish scholarships

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but normally they expect you to do some kind of socialization from time to time

brisk lotus
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there are also scholarships for international students

alpine hollow
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if they grant you a scholarship

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like going to meet sponsors and going to some events

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idk

compact slate
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"socialization" 😱

alpine hollow
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like "hey, this guy is oded, he's really good at his studies, and he is jewish, talk to him"

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idk i am pulling stuff out of my ass since i don't know people with that scholarship

compact slate
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lol

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I find it funny how no german has ever pronounced my name correctly even though it really isn't that hard

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even my good friend calls me Odet

sick imp
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I'd be great at that. "Ah yes mr Jew man, I for one love Jewish Jesus. And we light the candles for every Hanukkah. No weird meat for me. Mm yeah. Keep giving me free money ok?"

brisk lotus
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@compact slate Odet is female, isn't it ?

compact slate
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you have my respect as a Jew man

silent pilot
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do you do a soft sound at the end of "Oded"?

south oriole
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How do I become a jew?

compact slate
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@brisk lotus yeah but germans tend to turn the D at the end to T

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yeah Nemoses

silent pilot
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AUSLAUTVERHÄRTUNG

brisk lotus
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@south oriole no.

alpine hollow
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tbh i wouldn't know if it's a long e or a short e

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:<

silent pilot
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hey... Od!

alpine hollow
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lol

compact slate
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short e

silent pilot
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i really have to make an effort for it not to turn into a T there

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Oded-huh

brisk lotus
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🤣

compact slate
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I know Nemoses

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that's why I've given up

silent pilot
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Is it okay if we call you Rosie?

compact slate
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only if you pat my head

silent pilot
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ok, that gif is a bit creepy

compact slate
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nods happily

compact slate
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I honestly never mention I'm jewish on the internet

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unless someone explicitly asks me

brisk lotus
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ARE YOU JEWISH ?

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On a serious note, are you religious ?

compact slate
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atheist

brisk lotus
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hardcore lol

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keep it up

compact slate
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well I just don't like the term agnostic

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it's stupid

brisk lotus
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Why

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I think we can't discuss religion here though

compact slate
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because you can never prove somehting 100%

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because our tools are biased

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math is axiomatic

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it's most likely to be true

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anyway it's off topic

brisk lotus
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My question was why the term agnostic is stupid

compact slate
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the term itself isn't using it to describe one's religious state

brisk lotus
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Neil deGrasse is a smart man.

alpine hollow
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sometimes

brisk lotus
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He has his moments..

compact slate
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I kinda agree

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but when people ask they expect an answer

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not a philosophical discussion

brisk lotus
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Did you get an answer why Agnostic isn't stupid as you claimed ?

compact slate
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no, it's just saying "I don't know"

brisk lotus
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It's saying, we don't have proof and I welcome any proof whether supports the idea of god or is against it.

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But I don't go around tell people why god doesn't exist.

compact slate
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I have no problem with that

brisk lotus
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An Atheist will argue and tell you why there's no god

tight kelp
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epoché is quite an important concept, especially in daily life

compact slate
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I do think so too, but I don't think there is one so I just say I'm an atheist

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you can be agnostic atheist and agnostic theist

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both are agnostics

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but you lean towards a certain end

brisk lotus
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But I don't believe if there isn't a god just as much as I don't know if there is. that's what Agnostic is.

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a religious guy believes in the existence of god, an atheist believes the opposite.
I don't believe, I like to deal with actual proofs.

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We don't have proofs of either.

compact slate
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can you prove then that the chair you sit on exists? can you prove your existence is real? can you prove I'm not a robot?
I mean I know how absurd these questions are but at the end of the day you simply can't

brisk lotus
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Yes I can. and I don't believe in a chair, I KNOW it's there. my conscious is aware of it and therefore it exists.

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not the same with believing. you're not aware of it and you don't know it

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You BELIEVE in it. believe that it does/doesn't exist.

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so Atheists don't know that god doesn't exists. they think so. they believe so.

compact slate
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yeah

brisk lotus
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I, on the other hand, am waiting for proof to support either of the claims. and that is being Agnostic.

compact slate
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I mean at the end of the day it's basically lack of decisiveness in a way

gentle heron
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My buttcheeks believe in chairs, it doesn't matter if the rest of me does

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That's all I wanted to say

compact slate
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lol

gentle heron
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thanks for your attention

compact slate
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bitte

solemn bay
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There's not really a point in arguing something that is primarily just a preference of terminology, lol.

brisk lotus
solemn bay
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In this case, it is. But if you want to continue to discuss it, let's not do so here.

compact slate
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no one said it wasn't

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a preference, that is

brisk lotus
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@solemn bay sorry, didn't notice the Moderator role. I'll stop now 🙂

gentle heron
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Is the DACH we're living under even real

brisk lotus
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Good question

compact slate
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probably not for me as I don't live thereunder

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yes I did it in english

brisk lotus
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lol

compact slate
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I actually try to make the thereX compunds a thing again

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progress as of yet: not working

brisk lotus
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You can easily turn it into a trend here xD

compact slate
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I mean it's 100% cooler

brisk lotus
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true

sick imp
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@exotic barn hi can you explain the name of this channel?

alpine hollow
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@exotic barn what does roof mean?

exotic barn
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I have mentions off for this channel :^)

fallen roost
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I think the dach has to do with german speaking countries

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education, life, work or culture of DACH countries. 🇩🇪 🇦🇹 🇨🇭

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may be wrong tho

fleet pelican
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cant be

exotic barn
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You're correct

alpine hollow
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Wow

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A serious answer holy shit

sick imp
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Do you get it now hecke?

fleet pelican
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ich verstehe nicht

sick imp
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me neither tbh

alpine hollow
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Yeah, still don’t know what he roof is

fleet pelican
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we should make a channel for the guys who're living without a roof

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we're really creating a division in this community

feral kestrel
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Ich habe soeben online einen Termin beim Zahnarzt abgesagt, das mit der Digitalisierung nimmt wirklich Ausmaße an... 😀

wary pivot
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is this the place to ask about studying in germany?

alpine hollow
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yes

fleet pelican
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yeah boy

wary pivot
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I'll ask in about 20 minutes

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since I need to go shopping :<

exotic barn
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take your time

wary pivot
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i am back~

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damn my intuition is good when it comes to time

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My main question was about student life if I plan to study a bachelars at a german university

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I understand the style of learning is more independant, but how is life there?

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also, being an EU citizen should make things go smoothly right?

exotic barn
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yes it should

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in regard to your former question, could you elaborate on what exactly you want to know?

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"how is life there" is a bit broad

wary pivot
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stuff like

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do colleges typically have sports clubs there? party life? Is social interaction easy etc.

fleet pelican
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that 1. depends a lot on the uni

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  1. is standard to varying degrees
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absolutely everywhere

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the best part about uni I'd say is that if there isnt anything for you, you're encouraged to make spmething yourself

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the city where its situated I'd say is very much a factor too

exotic barn
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unis generally offer something

alpine hollow
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most unis should have some cooperation with sports stuff

wary pivot
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oh that's nice

exotic barn
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choir, sports, w/e

alpine hollow
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my uni offers courses for sailing and stuff

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🤔

wary pivot
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when it comes to which university specifically

exotic barn
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it doesnt depend on the uni, really

wary pivot
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I first considered TUM(want a CS degree)

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but uh, acceptance rates and munich prices

exotic barn
wary pivot
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oh thats nice

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does anybody here go to TUM/other german CS schools?

alpine hollow
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you typically get accepted anyway when you fulfil the requirements

fleet pelican
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typically

alpine hollow
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munich prices are probably the highest in germany

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so if you don't have money... i wouldn't advise going there

wary pivot
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yeah, that's why I thought

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It might be smarter to go elsewhere

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even if I could afford it

alpine hollow
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for munich stuff you can ask @brisk lotus when she is here

wary pivot
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but uh.... those slides they have on campus

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are really attractive 👀

fleet pelican
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every uni can offer something good

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have a look around

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you're not applying for summer 2018 im guessin?

wary pivot
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nope

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I'm just a 2nd year highschoolers

fleet pelican
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then you're got plenty of time to change your mind

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plenty darlin lmao

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and I promise you will

wary pivot
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with my current german I'd be in a bad situation tbh

fleet pelican
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you've*

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hey, you've got years

wary pivot
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yep

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2,5 should be plenty

fleet pelican
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hmh

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you work part time?

wary pivot
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not at the moment

fleet pelican
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even 10 hours a week, saving about 75%

wary pivot
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I have volleyball trainings every day

fleet pelican
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you'll be in a good position once you need to move

wary pivot
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so uh, that would be impossible for me

fleet pelican
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I understand hun

wary pivot
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I could try making some money programming, but I think I want to get more involved in the open-source community

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than develop apps and selling them in the future

fleet pelican
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as long as its what you wanna do

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as I said, plenty of time to change your mind

wary pivot
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ye

brisk lotus
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@wary pivot did you have any questions regarding Munich ?

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@alpine hollow I'm gonna change your whole perspective on life

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are you ready ?

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ARE YOU READY ?

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I'm a he.

tawny stag
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Anyone know what sorta place would have an Ethernet adapter?

alpine hollow
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amazon

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media markt

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saturn

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conrad

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any electronics store should have them 🤔

tawny stag
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Ah true xD I'm just silly and jetlagged, pardon

wary pivot
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oh

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i mean

alpine hollow
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what are you gonna do effi 😱

wary pivot
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not really, since I decided Im probablly not going there

tawny stag
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I wanted Not Amazon for instant gratification

brisk lotus
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@wary pivot getting accepted into TUM for CS degree isn't impossible. and true, the apartment prices in Munich are the highest compared to other cities in Germany.

wary pivot
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I'm somewhat good at CS for my age, so acceptance wouldnt be that hard

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if it wasn't for the limit on international students

brisk lotus
alpine hollow
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effi 😱

brisk lotus
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@wary pivot as an international student you'll have to send your application to TUM, if it's good enough you pass the first step. the second step is an interview, once you pass that you're in.

alpine hollow
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how could you do that to me 😱

brisk lotus
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nevertheless I am still fabulous.

wary pivot
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no I mean

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they don't take as much international students afaik

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there's a limit since the focus is on educating their citizens

brisk lotus
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I believe that's true across the country, but CS is usually Zulassungsfrei

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which means you're guaranteed a place

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I study CS in Munich and getting in wasn't a problem, but surviving it is. 😅

wary pivot
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ooh

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masters or bachalars?

brisk lotus
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bachelors

wary pivot
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is that how you spell it?

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damn

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never get it right in any language

brisk lotus
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lol

tawny stag
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Haven't had to get one yet so I wasn't sure how common they'd be /late

south oriole
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Holy crab you're here @wary pivot

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HI

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How did I never notice you GWdarateroLongneckThink

median badge
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I 've heard that some universities offer you like a 1 year time for you to learn german etc

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is that right?

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or is it a rumor

surreal ermine
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That is right, but don't ask me for details lol

exotic barn
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Would anybody know which unis offer that?

undone gyro
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The university I'm looking to go to offers something like this

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I can assume quite a few offer it but you'll have to look up on each university's site to see if they do

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I think the universities will ask you to apply normally but then they let you have 2/3 semesters for learning German before becoming a proper degree student

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If that makes sense

blazing harbor
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Yep, that's how it works in several places. However you often have to know at least basic German to be able to apply. Just check their websites for details, I personally only know about Uni Marburg who offers it (here you should have at least A2) and some who don't offer this like the Goethe-Universität Frankfurt you have to be at least B1 to be able to apply) or the Justus Liebig Universität Gießen (where you can apply with B2 but have to be at least C1 when you enroll). So yea it varies from uni to uni

brisk lotus
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I know Heidelberg offers that as well

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among many others

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and it's always possible to learn through a language school

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which is what I did

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it depends on how much you already know

undone gyro
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The university I'm looking at requires B2 and I'll be maybe A2 by the time I join so I think I'll be agood from there heh

brisk lotus
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@undone gyro will you still have to pass testdaf/dsh ?

undone gyro
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I think it's called ÖSD the one I have to do

brisk lotus
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in Austria ?

undone gyro
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Ye

sick imp
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Yo if its Austria please make sure that they don't require C1 instead.

undone gyro
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Ye ty arrem I read it somewhere on the website but I don't remember where

wary pivot
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@south oriole I just joined a few days ago so

undone gyro
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You reminded me to check again xd

wary pivot
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I need to get to C1 in about 3 years

alpine hollow
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that sounds very doable

wary pivot
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ye

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I also have a friend who's somewhere between

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b2 and c1 imo

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Actually he's definitly c1, since he got a certificate and all

brisk lotus
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C1 in years should be nice and easy 👍🏽

wary pivot
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having 2 C1 languages will be nice

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or maybe 3? Im not sure what level my slovak is

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I live here but I make a lot of types in it, even after 10 years

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But I did improve, so maybe I could be a c1 in it as well

exotic barn
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From what I know, a lot of unis offer german courses but I thought that you apply for your program after the courses, not that they will hold a place for you. That’s why I’m asking about unis that actually wait till you finish the course.

brisk lotus
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@exotic barn depends on the degree you're after

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for Medicine for example, no one can guarantee you a place

ocean basalt
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How can I check the equivalence of my Highschool diploma? Here I'm able to officially work in a hospital with it but I wanna know if that's possible in Germany

ocean basalt
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I think this is for university applications?

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I meant working with the Highschool diploma that I already have

alpine hollow
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oh

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that doesn't really matter for working

ocean basalt
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Oh really?

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That's great then ^^

alpine hollow
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most works require vocational training or some kind tho

ocean basalt
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Had 2 years of internship if that counts?

alpine hollow
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could help

ocean basalt
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Neat!

brisk lotus
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oh with the highschool diploma

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that database is more for higher education degrees and people who want to use their degrees to work in Germany

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to get it certified and accredited

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might be useful for you

ocean basalt
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@brisk lotus I'm sorry I totally missed your text Effi! sadlol I'll take a look at it tomorrow

civic sail
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What's a general admission to a preparatory course?

sick imp
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You'll need to provide more details/context. But it's probably a course that teaches you the German/math/physics/chemistry that you need for uni if you don't know it or didn't take it in highschool.

fleet pelican
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What are my options if there is no direct conversion between my country's highschool leavers exams and the Abitur. I'm confident I have way more than the required level of proficiency for my chosen subject, not to mention those of the first two semesters, but the problem lies in being able to prove that to the universities I wish to apply to.

undone gyro
#

Which country are you from?

fleet pelican
#

England

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with Lithuanian citizenship, none of the countrys current politics should affect me

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should

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I've taken 1 A-level already, and will be taking two more in four months. Results wont be available to anybody including me until around mid/late August which makes applying for the winter semester a pain

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I've got predicted grades and references from my teachers but somehow I doubt it'll be enough if its not official

undone gyro
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A levels should be okay. I dont know when you have to apply for for Germany but Austria I can apply after results day so I think the same goes for you? If it doesn't work like that then you can always email the admissions office of the universities you're interested in and tell them about your situation and ask for information. You should be alright and your Lithuanian citizenship since Lithuania is in the eu

fleet pelican
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thank you dearly, its incredibly reassuring to hear this from someone else

undone gyro
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It's np :3

fallen roost
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The Ausländerbehörde still hasnt answered

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I've gotten the responses I need from the university, though, and I think I'll be pretty safe now.

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My question is, does anybody know how long they typically take to respond?

brisk lotus
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no idea, depends on the city and priorities

sick imp
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I'm confident I have way more than the required level of proficiency for my chosen subject
If it's memeing or bullying 0x1, I'd give you a PhD straight away. ❤

fleet pelican
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can I put you down as a reference

sick imp
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I'll even write you a letter.

tight kelp
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L

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there, for everyone to use

solemn bay
#

Thanks, Berzi. I'll make sure to use this when I apply for jobs in the future.

tight kelp
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glad to be of help

ocean basalt
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Berzi is it fine if I print this out without hiding your name and photo?

tight kelp
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go ahead, I have no shame whatsoever

ocean basalt
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That’s the spirit

true citrus
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Hey, I want to study in germany after I get my bachelor, meaning I want to complete my masters there, when should I start preparing?

silent pilot
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prepare for what?

true citrus
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you know language certificate, uni acceptances, visa, and stuff

exotic barn
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What's your level right now?

silent pilot
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language - as soon as possible
uni - depends on the uni
visa - depends on your country

true citrus
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I'd say A1

exotic barn
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How many years do you have?

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Explain everything

true citrus
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I have three semesters

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if all goes well

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a year and a half

exotic barn
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Usually you need C1 for master degree. But there are english master programs.

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You can reach C1 in 1,5 years.

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If you're dedicated enough.

true citrus
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is that the fastest or the average?

exotic barn
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Was sind diese A1 , B1, C1 , A2 etc ?

alpine hollow
#

that's pretty fast

exotic barn
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It's the fastest.

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solange

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type in english 😃

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what does letters mean

silent pilot
exotic barn
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I did C1 in 15 months but it's 4 hours of German every day.

true citrus
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damn, I have studies to keep up with..

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how do you feel language in all those holes you have in your schedual

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fill

exotic barn
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what

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ah

alpine hollow
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you just have to do it

exotic barn
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Well I was in high school and I had a lot of time.

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oh

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so like grades in school

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school - German - sleep

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but they are about how much you know German ?

hard parcel
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We just have no real life

true citrus
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were you studying alone? or by tutoring?

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@exotic barn A1 - A2 - B1 - B2 - C1 with order

exotic barn
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I learned with a native for 5 months every second day. Then I had another native teacher (once in a week) but at that moment I was learning kinda alone already. Then I spent a month in Germany what tbh didn't help me a lot. In October- December I was preparing for my exam with a native twice in a week.

true citrus
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when you learned alone, what res did you use?

exotic barn
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In #resources there is a link to my Google drive and you can find there all the books I used.

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I watched a lot of tv shows in German without subtitles. That really helped me. My first series was Avatar. I chose it because I'd watched it like 5 times already and I knew the plot of every episode. Then I just rewatched series and movies.

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yes

hard parcel
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Avatar is 👌

exotic barn
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I was browsing channels

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and I found a cool channel with disney movies in german

hard parcel
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((the series, not the movie))

true citrus
#

avatar the cartoon/anime ?

hard parcel
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yes

exotic barn
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that day I watched Tarzan 2 and

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....

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Robin Hood

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YES

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I remembered

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very nice cartoons

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I also read a lot. I prefer magazines because there are ones made specially for learners. They have vocab lists and topics are usually the same as in the exams.

true citrus
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I found a good mini series on DW channel, called nicos weg

exotic barn
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I understood some parts

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it was fun

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Just do everything you need to do. If you want to achieve C1 in this short period of time you must work. Sleep less, walk faster, eat faster, don't go out, don't have fun, become a nerd.

true citrus
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I looked up in the daad site, they only require B2, some only b1

exotic barn
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For master?

true citrus
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yes

exotic barn
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It can't be true.

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Freuden

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is that the correct plural of friends ?

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Maybe it's for a summer language school or for an exchange semester.

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You need C1 even for bachelor.

true citrus
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wait I'll send you an example

exotic barn
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It's english

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not german

true citrus
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if it's english then the universities that teach in german does not clarify language reqs

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I can't find lang reqs in their daad page

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just academic reqs

exotic barn
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For master it's always C1 German afaik.

true citrus
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If I was to get accepted in an english course

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I wouldn't need the C1 right? just B1 for the visa

exotic barn
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Ich mag ihr 😃

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is that correct?

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I don't think you need a level for visa 🤔

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But you're right. If you're applying for an English course you don't need C1.

true citrus
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I do, I need a certificate of atleast B1

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I'm not from the EU

exotic barn
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Wow, TIL.

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Foxxo, where did you get the motivation to learn 4h every day? 👀

alpine hollow
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studying in germany

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leaving her place

true citrus
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@exotic barn where did you find avatar in german btw

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and do they speak slowly?

exotic barn
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no they don't

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You need VPN to open these pages

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Luna knows me 🕵

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Now my motivation is too meet my dear discord friends irl.

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💞

true citrus
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I never knew naruto in german would be this epic

compact slate
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What kind of magazines? @exotic barn

exotic barn
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I read Vitamin D

compact slate
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Werd mal ausprobieren 👌

brisk lotus
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@true citrus at least B1 to get your visa ?

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not really

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where did you read that

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you'll need the letter of admission

brisk lotus
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@exotic barn when are we going to meet ❤

sick imp
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2139

brisk lotus
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@sick imp http://www.21-39.com/ ? 😄

true citrus
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@brisk lotus along with the letter of admission

brisk lotus
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@true citrus if you've got your letter of admission that means you've passed the language test

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you don't need to provide it

true citrus
#

"Documents à fournir pour la demande de visa :

Deux formulaires de demande de visa remplis en allemand de manière lisible et dûment signés en mentionnant votre numéro de téléphone
Trois photos d’identité récentes remplissant les conditions biométriques
Carte d’identité nationale CIN (original et deux photocopies)
Passeport (original et deux photocopies des trois premières pages). Le passeport doit être encore valable au moins six mois et avoir 2 pages vides
Preuve de vos connaissances en langue allemande du niveau B1 (original et deux photocopies) du cadre européen de référence par un certificat établi par un centre d’examen disposant d’un bureau de représentation avec un personnel expatrié et certifié selon les critères du cadre de référence des examens de langues d’ALTE. Actuellement au Maroc, seuls le Goethe-Institut et l’ÖSD répondent à ces critères.
Attestation d’admission d’une université à l’examen d’entrée au Collège propédeutique, à l’examen DSH, aux études supérieures, ou confirmation de candidature (original et deux photocopies)
Pièces justificatives concernant le financement de votre séjour – le cas échéant avec une traduction en langue allemande – avec deux photocopies, à savoir :
Financement par une prise en charge conforme aux articles 66-68 de la loi sur le séjour des étrangers émanant d’une personne résidente en Allemagne et valable pour la durée des études (1 an au minimum). Cette prise en charge doit être délivrée par le service des étrangers compétent du lieu de résidence du garant et doit attester la solvabilité de ce dernier, sinon financement par versement d’une caution sur un compte bancaire bloqué en Allemagne d’un montant de 7.908 euros avec un prélèvement mensuel de 659 euros.
Baccalauréat et relevé des notes (respectivement : fournir original avec deux photocopies)
Certificats sur le cursus universitaire (original et deux photocopies)
Une enveloppe suffisamment timbrée comportant votre adresse"

brisk lotus
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I don't understand French ?

true citrus
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it's in french, but if you use google you'll see the reqs

brisk lotus
#

I don't have to google it

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you don't have to provide B1 in Germany

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I, alongside many many others have done it

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You get a maximum of two years visa to learn the language

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"preparing for uni" is the visa

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after that they expect you to have a letter of admission

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otherwise you're out

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they don't need any language certificate

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either a confirmation from a language school or uni, stating that you're studying

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why would they care about your level of German ?

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the visa is to allow you to do whatever you want, as long as you have proof that you're going to do it

true citrus
#

what if it's different from one country to another? like I said, I'm not from the EU

brisk lotus
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me neither

true citrus
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I probably need to check with the embassy

brisk lotus
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where are you from ?

true citrus
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Morocco

brisk lotus
#

the only difference is the preparation you might have to do

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like Studienkolleg

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in which case you show that you're attending Studienkolleg and learning the language

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then after you're done, you show that you're enrolled at the uni

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since you are enrolled it directly means you're above B1

true citrus
#

So I still have to be B1, and since uni acceptance is a req for visa, doesn't that make the language an "indirect" req?

brisk lotus
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The language is a requirement to get into uni

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It's not a requirement for the visa

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that's all you need to know 🙂

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So if you get into an English course at the uni, you can still get your visa even if you don't have B1 in German.

true citrus
#

english course seems best, even if I do get a b1 or even B2, german for business and studies would still be hard

brisk lotus
#

C1 should be enough I believe

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dunno it's up to you

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C1 wasn't enough for me xD

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But I might be too stupid

true citrus
#

what is your field?

brisk lotus
#

computer science

true citrus
#

nice, you said you weren't from the EU, what country did you come from? where the procedures of visa fast?

brisk lotus
#

I did everything after entering Germany so it may not be the same for you

true citrus
#

everything? what do you mean?

brisk lotus
#

I applied here for my visa so it's not the same for you I believe

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you'd have to do it in your home country

true citrus
#

ok

exotic barn
#

@brisk lotus in this year!

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hopefully ^^

south oriole
#

I applied here for my visa so it's not the same for you I believe
How? Dont you need a visa in the first place to get in?

brisk lotus
#

@south oriole It depends on your passport

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Usually true, you need to apply for a visa before getting in

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Other countries have a tourist visa, which means they can enter Germany and stay for up to 3 months

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during these 3 months I applied for my visa after getting accommodation,certificates,etc..

exotic barn
#

Kappa

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我想你😔

compact slate
#

Which universities count as good for tech(cs and sciences)?

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I heard about Aachen, TU Berlin and TU Munich

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Munich is out of the question though, it's too expensive for me to live in

brisk lotus
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TUM is number 1

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Not much of a big difference in Germany though

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Unlike in Israel I believe

compact slate
#

Difference in what? in quality?

brisk lotus
#

As I said, there isn't much difference

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Here you can check rankings based on different aspects

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It can be useful, but shouldn't change your mind as to where you want to study

compact slate
#

I don't know where I want to tbh

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I don't know where is good

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I always had Berlin in mind, because oh well, it's what you hear about the most

chilly narwhal
#

Erlangen is where I am and it's pretty good as well

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but I guess Berlin, Munich are the ones you hear from the most

brisk lotus
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@chilly narwhal doesn't the uni there belong to Erlangen and Nuernberg ?

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But I think the CS faculty is in Erlangen

chilly narwhal
#

Yes it does, I do live in Nuremberg, but the Technische Fakultät is completely located in Erlangen

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it is also not too expensive to live in

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what I heard is about 300€ per month for a room in a flat

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Not sure how you say Wohngemeinschaft in English

brisk lotus
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yea as in a shared flat

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but Erlangen is too small for my taste

compact slate
#

What have you heard about TU Berlin and RWTH Aachen?

alpine hollow
#

everywhere is good

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base it more around where you want to live

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than a certain uni

compact slate
#

hm

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What do you mean?

alpine hollow
#

like if you wanna study in hamburg

compact slate
#

What does it matter where do you live?

alpine hollow
#

study in hamburg

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because you want to live in hamburg

compact slate
#

🤔

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I never thought about it like this

alpine hollow
#

the "quality" of the uni is not very important

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so it's a more efficient choice to look for the city where you want to live

compact slate
#

I don't know actually. I don't have any preference when it comes to accomodation

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I'm pretty ignorant when it comes to cities in Germany

alpine hollow
#

you still have time to find out

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so don't worry

compact slate
#

Yeah but like, what should I find out? other than living expenses I don't see any major factor

alpine hollow
#

what do you do in your free time?

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do you want to live in the country

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with more nature

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do you want a city where you can party all day

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do you want to live where you can travel a lot

compact slate
#

programming, gamedev, gaming I guess

alpine hollow
#

do you want to live in a modern city

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do you want to live in an ancient city

compact slate
#

hm

alpine hollow
#

do you wanna go mountain climbing

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do you wanna go do winter sports

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do you wanna do water sports

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do you like forests

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do you want to be able to visit france

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do you want to be able to visit scandinavian countries

compact slate
#

I see

brisk lotus
#

lmao

alpine hollow
#

gamedev is not really a uni speciality, btw

brisk lotus
#

that's a couple of useful questions

alpine hollow
#

so you can't choose a uni if you wanna do gamedev

compact slate
#

it is what I do in my free time

alpine hollow
#

aachen is more known for their engineering stuff

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so if you wanna go there it's helpful if you are interested in hardware

compact slate
#

I'm more of a software guy

alpine hollow
#

in berlin you can get a lot of practice since there is an abundance of start-ups who just take anyone

#

munich is more for software engineering stuff

exotic barn
#

Where can you travel a lot? 👀

chilly narwhal
#

depends on where you wnat to travel to

alpine hollow
#

this chica knows

exotic barn
#

Around germany i guess

alpine hollow
#

NRW/west of germany is spretty good if you wanna go to france, netherlands, belgium

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north of germany is good if you wanna go to denmark, sweden etc

compact slate
#

I guess TU Berlin seems like the most probable choice atm

chilly narwhal
#

South is good for Italy, Poland etc

alpine hollow
#

west of germany if you wanna go to poland, czech, etc

chilly narwhal
#

yaaaa

steady urchin
#

Austria

exotic barn
#

I know in some bundeslaender students can travel free to any city there

chilly narwhal
#

what really? I kinda heard of it

alpine hollow
#

depends on which city, suzu

chilly narwhal
#

but is it a thing?

alpine hollow
#

it depends on the uni

#

not all uni provide a semesterticket

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and not all semestertickets are the same

exotic barn
#

Muenster does

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Nrw does i guess

alpine hollow
#

LUH in Hannover does too

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but Hildesheim doesn't

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for example

compact slate
#

What's a semesterticket?

alpine hollow
#

the student ticket that allows you to use public transportation for free

chilly narwhal
#

A ticket with which you can use the public transportation for free with a set price for every emester

alpine hollow
#

not all unis provide one

chilly narwhal
#

ah

compact slate
#

I see

#

does TU-Berlin have them?

alpine hollow
#

you have to look it up

compact slate
#

will do

compact slate
#

So you get it by paying the fees anyway I think

alpine hollow
#

Seit dem Sommersemester 2015 müssen Sie zusätzlich eine aktuelle Studienbescheinigung in Printform mitführen und bei Fahrausweiskontrollen vorzeigen.

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ROFL

chilly narwhal
#

wtf the ticket is so expensive

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for us it's optional and costs about 200+€

compact slate
#

I don't see any price though

exotic barn
#

German transport fees are really expensive :c

brisk lotus
#

I guess it depends on the how big the city is ? it's around 300 per semester in Munich for the semester ticket and other gebuehren

chilly narwhal
#

@ semesterbeiträge

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Berlin is huge though

exotic barn
#

I pay 100€ a year in prague

chilly narwhal
#

Also for Nuremberg it's valid for the entire region

#

so I guess it is pretty cheap...

brisk lotus
#

the region/the state ?

alpine hollow
#

i can travel to any city in lower saxony with mine

chilly narwhal
#

I can even travel to my mom's hometown with my ticket

compact slate
#

193,80 € for the Semesterticket

#

not that bad I guess

alpine hollow
#

any semesterticket is worth it anyway

chilly narwhal
#

wow I didn't know I could travel to Rothernburg ob der Tauber. I should do that sometime

alpine hollow
#

unless you decide to only use your bicycle all day

chilly narwhal
#

:^((((((

#

RIP Hofmann

brisk lotus
#

and I have the Klausur on Wednesday

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for his course

alpine hollow
#

:<

compact slate
#

It's one heck of weight loss method @alpine hollow

exotic barn
#

Btw how come it does matter which uni you study? Are all german unis really that good? :O

chilly narwhal
#

Most German unis are really good, though afaik every uni is shit concernign organisation and stuff.

#

But so are most companies 🎵

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Cause staff are lazy OR no one wants to pay a lot of money for organisational stuff

exotic barn
#

Whoa that’s not very “german-like” :’D

chilly narwhal
#

Yeah it isn't 😂

alpine hollow
#

it's very german like

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actually

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public sector

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it's normal

chilly narwhal
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well not stereotypical German-like

exotic barn
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How good do you think that german unis are compared to other eu countries? Or is it too hard to compare?

alpine hollow
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too hard to compare

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in theory every uni is supposed to be the same

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due to the bachelor/master system

exotic barn
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I feel like the more north you go, the higher quality but that’s just my feeling 🤔

alpine hollow
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in terms of what?

exotic barn
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Education?

alpine hollow
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why do you say that?

chilly narwhal
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🤔

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Der Norden ist einfach dichter besiedelt

exotic barn
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Cuz scandinavia has this image of elite schools

alpine hollow
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which don't exist in germany

chilly narwhal
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Bayern ist das undichtest besidelte Bundesland Deutschlands

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People call some unis elite unis, but like, it's not about the quality of the education

exotic barn
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I didn’t mean germany, i mean eu

chilly narwhal
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more about how much they contribute to science etc

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research**

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scientific research*

exotic barn
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Oh is it possible to check somewhere how much a uni contributes to science?

chilly narwhal
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Not that I know

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Guess reading the news a lot

alpine hollow
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research funding :)

exotic barn
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I’m sorry if i offended someone with the remark about education in north

alpine hollow
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no worries, suzu

brisk lotus
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based on uni

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not sure how much of a difference it makes though

alpine hollow
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the unis themselves also publish their bilance every year somewhere

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at least mine does that 🤔

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not sure how complete it is tho

brisk lotus
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btw the informatik faculty in Augsburg is fancy

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relatively new

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the city sucks though

alpine hollow
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rip

brisk lotus
wary pivot
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hmm

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munich is nice I heard

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aber teueeeeer

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caps lock message got deleted

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:c

brisk lotus
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true

torn garnet
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A startup offers almost only disadvantages compared to "conventional" companies. You have to work incredibly hard at the startups.

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I would avoid such companies.

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No works council, no co-determination and the bosses are mostly selfish guys in their mid-twenties.

tight kelp
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conversely, it's probably much easier to be hired there and it does count in your CV, so if you're entry level you might have better chances there rather than by bigger companies

lapis pike
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Do you live in Augsburg? @brisk lotus

livid cloud
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hey guys i am looking for someone with good german who can talk with me. also it would be really good if he has any experience in testdaf 😄

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it would really help me out

brisk lotus
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@tight kelp exactly what I'm going through

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@lapis pike I'm in Munich

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@livid cloud do you have any questions regarding the testdaf ?

sleek abyss
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@livid cloud I can talk, but my German is not that good

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And I do not know that test

undone gyro
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I walked past the big church in the first district Vienna and there was some kind of protest/demonstration about free Syria is that normal or? It was maybe 5/6pm

jade helm
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@undone gyro demonstrations in Viennas 1st district are not uncommon

undone gyro
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Thanks it was weird bc I never seen one before o.o

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They were singing something and waving a bunch of flags around

alpine hollow
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oh, if you are staying for longer

jade helm
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about 50 to 100 per year, and some of them with bigger impact

alpine hollow
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demonstrations and strikings will be happening more often :)

jade helm
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like traffic blocks etc

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oh yes

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danke HC sadlol

undone gyro
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Striking?

alpine hollow
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yea, unionized strikes

undone gyro
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Like workers?

alpine hollow
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yep

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might happen from time to time

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the trains striking or some others

jade helm
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ich bin für Schwarzkapplerstreiks, das ganze Jahr!

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😃

alpine hollow
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so if you are living in germany or austria, you should check the news regularly

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you'll never know when the public transport or airports are striking

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but you can find out early in advance

undone gyro
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Ooh ty solet and zwirschi

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:D

tight kelp
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If you don't mind me asking, why do you find the concept of demonstrations or strikes so odd? Where are you from?

brisk lotus
fleet pelican
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Thank you ❤

lapis pike
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Well I live there and it is actually pretty great.@brisk lotus

brisk lotus
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@lapis pike you live in Augsburg ?

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I don't like it

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I lived there as well

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for one semester

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It felt like a poorer city in Germany

median badge
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you have been banned from r/Augsburg

lapis pike
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poorer city?

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Where did you live? 😄

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If you lived in Oberhausen, sure.

brisk lotus
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True

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I agree

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Oberhausen is worse

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I lived in haunstetten

lapis pike
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I know all the great places since I live her for 24 years.

brisk lotus
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near the uni

lapis pike
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So my picture is quiet different.

brisk lotus
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obviously

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4 months aren't enough, but you know compared to other places I lived in like Munich and Heidelberg

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actually where I lived was a new neighborhood

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am silbermannpark

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so that wasn't bad

lapis pike
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Yeah, it's cool there.

brisk lotus
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maybe I just had a negative experience in the city

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the Informatik faculty is new though

lapis pike
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Yeah, it's really cool.

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I had some lectures there.

brisk lotus
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Have they finally finished the construction work in Königsplatz ?

lapis pike
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Yes, everything finished.

brisk lotus
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I'm gonna need a couple of pictures then xD

lapis pike
brisk lotus
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Nice

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There's this cafe in Haunstetter strasse

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they were opening another place in Königsplatz I believe

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forgot the name..it was a black logo

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Schwarze Kiste !!

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I loved that place