general-2

[ocean robin]

Well there we wanted to say that the book wasn't for the aunt, so we just negate the aunt I think.

[sudden panther]

Flops. The placement of the nicht is fine. Im trying to give you a hint for the "but".

[ocean robin]

Ah.

[sudden panther]

But, given your goldfish memory, let's try henbri's way instead.

What word can you add after the but in the English sentence that wouldn't change the meaning?

[thick charm]

Flopsfish

[pine ginkgo]

arrem, please make a flopsfish

[sudden panther]

One day. When I get bored of Enton.

Hi du Meme.

[torn latch]

hallö du meme

[pine ginkgo]

hey arrem, we nearly passed the 1 hour mark for this

i think we are on track again

🤔

[ocean robin]

i have no idea

[sudden panther]

Rather. You would add rather.

[ocean robin]

eher?

[cold vessel]

Look up "but rather" on dict.cc

[opal sequoia]

Here is a hint for you, Flappy. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/240524318512119810/363272434142543882/conjunctions.png

[ocean robin]

oh shiet sondern

[opal sequoia]

Btw you should keep this chart handy and look at it when you're constructing these kinds of sentences.

[pine ginkgo]

(base posts this every day around 2-3 times, so i think he kept it close!)

[cold vessel]

I've bookmarked it as well

[opal sequoia]

It is in the #resources

[pine ginkgo]

now fix it flaps

[ocean robin]

Dieses Buch ist nicht für meine Tante, sondern für meinen Onkel.

[opal sequoia]

👌

She is taking her wallet out of the handbag.

[pine ginkgo]

maybe we should work on the speed instead, base

[opal sequoia]

Yes.

I agree.

Flappy needs to tell us if she doesn't know how to do something.

[cold vessel]

Is ditching the "für" in the second clause fine?

[gleaming moth]

out of curiosity since someone said not to put nicht in the middle, why is it still fine to do so?

[sudden panther]

Nah.

[pine ginkgo]

i wouldn't say so

[sudden panther]

It depends on what you're doing.

[opal sequoia]

I think with prepositional phrases you need to keep the whole thing, but for other stuff you can ditch it. Does that sound correct?

[sudden panther]

Here you're only negating a part of the clause. This usage implies that I'm not giving it to the aunt but to someone else instead. Which is exactly what I want.

[gleaming moth]

so when the nicht is required to modify something like "not my aunt" it can be placed there, whereas if that need is not there you put it at the end?

[sudden panther]

Well, must really, not can.

[gleaming moth]

ah

[opal sequoia]

It's basically the difference between negating one part or negating the whole thing.

[sudden panther]

Placing it at the end in this case would be wrong.

[opal sequoia]

Like "I'm not giving it to my aunt, but I am giving it to my uncle." vs "I'm not giving the book to my aunt". In the latter case, you're just negating the whole concept. In the former, you're just modifying it.

[gleaming moth]

right, makes sense.

[pine ginkgo]

i think the speed task is not working, base

[sudden panther]

puts speed module 3 into Flops

[ocean robin]

yes

i am working

[opal sequoia]

I guess we could try coming up with an actual speed test.

[ocean robin]

Speed test? What do you mean?

[opal sequoia]

Hmm, not sure.

[sudden panther]

I'd much prefer accuracy. Sadly, we get neither.

[opal sequoia]

Well there's nothing wrong with a bit of both.

But we will have to think about the logistics.

For now we can continue the usual.

[cold vessel]

Deos anyone have some infinitive sentences?

[pine ginkgo]

I am going home in the morning to do the dishes early

I should take some cooking classes to bake cakes

[sudden panther]

Please do.

Is Flops even working on her sentence? 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

We have to establish some basic logistics to find out how to measure Flopsing's translation speed

[opal sequoia]

It is raining really loudly here.

[cold vessel]

Ich gehe am Morgen nach Hause, um früh abzuwaschen.

[ocean robin]

Wait, does that mean I still have thingies left?

[pine ginkgo]

well, base posted a sentence twenty minutes ago

[ocean robin]

oh shiet

[cold vessel]

Aren't all of these "um zu" sentences? 🤔

[ocean robin]

oh my god that last sentence solet

[pine ginkgo]

not necessarily, but can be

[ocean robin]

scrolls up to see her sentence

[cold vessel]

Was the first one correct though?

[pine ginkgo]

yep

i would prefer saying morgens

but it's nothing wrong on your side

[cold vessel]

Okay

Ich sollte einen Kochkurs machen, um Kuchen zu backen.

[ocean robin]

Huh, I don't see another sentence. The one we corrected was right, right?

[sudden panther]

Gosh Flops.

[cold vessel]

She is taking her wallet out of the handbag.

[ocean robin]

Yes.

[cold vessel]

👀

[sudden panther]

She is taking her wallet out of the handbag.

[ocean robin]

wha, where was that 👀

[sudden panther]

Fokken henbri go do your work.

[ruby basin]

"Ich hat nicht schlafe" would this be a correct sentence

[pine ginkgo]

https://prnt.sc/gupn9w

[ocean robin]

I am lost lel

[pine ginkgo]

no

[cold vessel]

I already did 2/3, arrem 👀

[pine ginkgo]

the 2nd is fine too, henbri

[ocean robin]

I feel so dumb oh my god

[pine ginkgo]

also arrem stealing my henbri nickname yo fok

[sudden panther]

What you should do is feel motivated. And translate your sentence. And check it for mistakes before hitting enter.

[opal sequoia]

@ruby basin What are you trying to say with that?

[gleaming moth]

Ich brauche ein paar Sätze auch bitte?

[pine ginkgo]

what's your estimated level, dig?

[ruby basin]

I have not slept @opal sequoia

[gleaming moth]

Ich habe keine ahnung

[pine ginkgo]

or any concepts you like to train?

[ocean robin]

Sie nimmt ihre Brieftasche aus von der Handtasche. 🤔

[opal sequoia]

Okay, phynixeon, what is the conjugation of haben for "ich"?

[pine ginkgo]

mh

check for mistakes

[ocean robin]

flopsing

let me see huh

[ruby basin]

"habe"

[gleaming moth]

Id like to train my understanding of the past tense if anything i think

[opal sequoia]

Yes, ich habe.

Now, do you know about how the past tense is formed?

[ocean robin]

What is wrong eh, cases are righto since von + Dat, and wallet is aKK

[ruby basin]

no.

[opal sequoia]

Okay, so when you have this form of the past tense, what you need is haben (or sein) and then a past preterite form of the verb, in this case schlafen.

[pine ginkgo]

I have finished all my homework for today- let's start with this dig

[ocean robin]

fokken where are mai mistakes

too many pupils over there 👀

[opal sequoia]

And you can find what form of the verb you need by looking in a dictionary. Often it will start with ge- but not always.

[sudden panther]

Man I'm not sure if I would have thought of "aus von" if I meme-translated it. 😂

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

i don't know arrem

[opal sequoia]

So in this case "Ich habe nicht geschlafen."

[ocean robin]

Now I see that "out of" is simply von. Hell yeah.

[pine ginkgo]

maybe we should add a translation channel, arrem

[ruby basin]

alright

[pine ginkgo]

it seems to become popular lately 🤔

[gleaming moth]

Ich habe Heute alle meine Haufausgaben fertig... oder?

[ocean robin]

That is called literal translatiiiiion

[opal sequoia]

Makes sense, phynixeon?

[sudden panther]

#questions

[ocean robin]

no

[pine ginkgo]

nope dig

[gleaming moth]

i dont know the past tense of finish

[ocean robin]

What's the verb first for finish?

[pine ginkgo]

look it up then, dig

[ruby basin]

Yea, it was helpful @opal sequoia

[gleaming moth]

fertig or erledigt?

[ruby basin]

thanks 😅

[pine ginkgo]

fertig is not really a verb :)

[opal sequoia]

And if you want to try another sentence to practice the past tense feel free to make one and we can tell you if it's correct.

[ruby basin]

alright

"Ich gehabt eine apfel."

[ocean robin]

But we should explain Perfekt for this little one.

Can I?

[sudden panther]

Auxiliary?

No. The only thing you can do is finish your sentence.

[ocean robin]

[opal sequoia]

What do you mean to say with that, phynixeon?

[ruby basin]

I had an apple

[ocean robin]

Sie nimmt ihre Brieftasche von der Handtasche. where, just wheeere 🤔

[opal sequoia]

Hmm. This would be Ich hatte einen Apfel. Try this instead phynixeon: I wrote a letter.

[cold vessel]

Wir müssen etwas Grundlogistik festsetzen, um wie Flopsings Übersetzungstempo messen herauszufinden.

Not particularly optimistic about this one

[gleaming moth]

@pine ginkgo "Ich habe für heute alle meine Hausaufgaben erledigt" ?

[pine ginkgo]

you can say that, yeah

but heute is not capitalized

or

wait 🤔

[ocean robin]

wat

[gleaming moth]

isnt it the topic sorta?

not so much topic as a noun

[ruby basin]

"Ich geschrieben einen Briefen"

correct? @opal sequoia

[ocean robin]

not yet

[opal sequoia]

Nuh, phynixeon. You have to have the haben/sein in the conjugated verb position, and then the other word at the end.

Look at the first sentence you had, for example. "Ich habe nicht geschlafen."

[pine ginkgo]

@sudden panther halp

[cold vessel]

@ruby basin That form is called the perfect participle, and it's not used for the simple past, but the past perfect

Solet, did you see my sentence?

[sudden panther]

Wot.

[pine ginkgo]

is it für Heute or für heute 🤔

mhh henbri

try this

[cold vessel]

dict.cc claims it's "für heute"

[pine ginkgo]

I find out how to measure speed

[ocean robin]

Wait wait, do you do Prateritum or Perfekt in there? 🤔

[sudden panther]

für heute

[opal sequoia]

Anyway, phynixeon maybe you aren't at the point of learning past tense yet so it might be better not to worry about it for now.

[sudden panther]

Used as an adverb or whatever the hell it is. I've rarely seen it capitalized, really.

Aha. It is indeed an adverb. Arrim can into Wortart.

[pine ginkgo]

nice

[opal sequoia]

Good work, Arrem.

[pine ginkgo]

mhh, i think this sentence might need a bit of explanation henbri

come to think of 🤔

[cold vessel]

Do I need to split it? Like Ich finde heraus, wie Tempo zu messen. or something?

[pine ginkgo]

very close

yeah, you have to split it anyway

but i am sure you don't know how to translate how to measure

i didn't think about it, when i made the sentence

and i don't really have a good explanation either 🤔

[sudden panther]

Who was it that capitalized Heute? Because I just found a lovely sentence for them.

[pine ginkgo]

dig

[sudden panther]

Oh. I can't bully Dig, I guess. 😦

[pine ginkgo]

so i just give you the correction, if you don't mind, henbri?

or you wanna try?

a hint might be, in that sentence you need a conjugated verb

or in that clause, rather

[ruby basin]

"Ich schriebt eine brief"? @opal sequoia

[cold vessel]

Ich finde heraus, wie man Tempo misst ?

[ocean robin]

I am confused. Do I have a translation left? Or not? 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

oh, nice henbri

(tbh, i didnt expect you to get that)

[opal sequoia]

Did you finish that handbag one, Flappy?

I didn't see.

[cold vessel]

The usual cheat, Solet, my Norwegian skills

[pine ginkgo]

the other way would be wie Tempo zu messen ist

[ocean robin]

Oh, I must scroll up to see it again.

[pine ginkgo]

hehe :D

good thing, that you can apply that to german sometimes, henbri

[gleaming moth]

does that mean to split the temperature if you translate it literally?

[ocean robin]

It was Sie nimmt ihre Brieftasche von der Handtasche

[gleaming moth]

whereas it actually means what the temperature is?

[pine ginkgo]

what do you mean dig?

wanna try correcting the big sentence, henbri? :P

[sudden panther]

No, messen is just to measure.

[cold vessel]

On it

[ruby basin]

I think I get it now. ge- is introduced when a past-form auxillary verb is present @opal sequoia

[sudden panther]

Are you happy with Flops' translation, Base? 😛

[ocean robin]

[gleaming moth]

Ah, I must be getting it confused with messer

[pine ginkgo]

i am not

:P

[opal sequoia]

HMMM.

[ocean robin]

i was sure about that

[opal sequoia]

Is Flappy happy with it?

[pine ginkgo]

i can let it slide, but i wouldn't be happy

[ocean robin]

y-yes

[pine ginkgo]

:P

[opal sequoia]

Can you say von for this?

[ocean robin]

First it was "aus von" it was worse.

[sudden panther]

I mean, you can, but you can pick a better thing as well.

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

what orrem sez

[opal sequoia]

Okay, I would have picked something else.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[pine ginkgo]

try putting out of in dict.cc

and read the descriptions

if there are any

[opal sequoia]

Other than that it's good though, but yeah, see if you can figure out the other option.

[cold vessel]

Solet, could you say wie Tempo gemessen wird ?

[pine ginkgo]

that works too

you kinda have to make it a passive construction

and i am not sure why it's the case

it's just is i suppose 🤔

[sudden panther]

Henbri can use the passive as well. 😮

[pine ginkgo]

he's just using norse skills for german 😦

[ocean robin]

for the win you can't see descriptions on mobile

[cold vessel]

Wir müssen etwas Grundlogistik festsetzen, um herauszufinden, wie man Flopsings Übersetzungstempo misst.

err

There

[pine ginkgo]

you can, flaps

make a screenshot

nice

noooow

[pine ginkgo]

how did you get festsetzen for establish?

[cold vessel]

@pine ginkgo Norwegian cognate 😅

[ocean robin]

🤔

[cold vessel]

einrichten perhaps?

[opal sequoia]

Okay, so, what do you choose, Flappy?

From that dict.cc

[pine ginkgo]

http://prntscr.com/gupwjg

flops

[opal sequoia]

Nice.

[thick charm]

busted

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

yeah, that can work, henbri

[opal sequoia]

As soon as you choose the word you want, Flappy, I can give you a new sentence.

[ocean robin]

Wooooo.

I want to be as simple as possible and choose the aus... heraus. Seems familiar.

[opal sequoia]

The heraus is in brackets, Flappy. That means it's not always needed.

[ocean robin]

Mmmh, true.

So it's only aus? Fok seriously.

[pine ginkgo]

well you can use heraus if you like

[opal sequoia]

Okay, I see.

But yeah, just aus is fine.

Why did you think it wouldn't be, Flappy?

[ocean robin]

Wouldn't be what?

[sudden panther]

außerhalb von did nothing wrong

Why did you think it wouldn't be fine.

[ocean robin]

🤔

Wow I am confused. Moreover I go eating.

[opal sequoia]

Okay, enjoy.

[cold vessel]

Can you just post or PM me the sentence you were going to give her next?

[opal sequoia]

Oh, I didn't choose one yet. 😄

[pine ginkgo]

your norse skills are pretty powerful henbri

[opal sequoia]

Maybe this: Where can I find the bookshop? Oh, it's just around the corner.

[pine ginkgo]

anyway, are those sentences kinda the sentences you like to have, henbri?

[sudden panther]

The newest book in the "The Definitive Guide" series.

[pine ginkgo]

nice latex

[sudden panther]

Thanks. I use it for all my books.

[cold vessel]

The first two ones were maybe a bit simple, Solet, since they just required a simple um zu. The last one was good, because I need to practice when I have to split the clause or noun the verb

[opal sequoia]

Henbri, the master of infinitives.

[pine ginkgo]

mhh

alright

i try to think of complexishit that you will

[sudden panther]

Hey henbri, can you do the today of today is the yesterday of tomorrow just for the memes.

[gleaming moth]

Könnte ich noch ein Satz übersetzen?

[cold vessel]

I don't know whether to use the genitive or von here.
Das Heute des Heute ist das Gestern des Morgen

[pine ginkgo]

you used neither

[sudden panther]

Ehehehe.

[pine ginkgo]

🤔

[cold vessel]

ops

Fixed

[sudden panther]

Go for von though, that's why I phrased it that way.

[cold vessel]

That was dumb of me

[sudden panther]

And pay extra attention to your nouns and adverbs. :^)

[cold vessel]

Are they not all nouns? 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

To catch a criminal you have to become a criminal to analyze their behaviour and recognize patterns in their actions and movements to finally imprison the criminal

for afterwards

maybe

:D

[cold vessel]

Oh god

[sudden panther]

No, no they're not. 😄

[cold vessel]

I'm unable to analyze that sentence then, arrem

[ivory jolt]

The criminal cant outsmart you if you are the criminal

but can Arrem be outmemed?

[cold vessel]

Das Heute von heute ist das Gestern von morgen? 🤔

[sudden panther]

It's a tricky one, I'll give you that. But it shows the difference between the nominal and the adverbial usage nicely imo.

Das Heute von heute ist das Gestern von morgen.

Yes.

[cold vessel]

Also I just noticed I didn't properly fix my genitive 🤦

[ocean robin]

Oh god Arrem, can't wait to see this guide filled.

[sudden panther]

What?

[pine ginkgo]

it is?

[ocean robin]

The PDF you just posted a few minutes ago. Also hey I am back.

[pine ginkgo]

i mean you could add a proof maybe, arrem 🤔

or some examples or observations

🤔

[sudden panther]

There's no need to fill it. It's complete.

[ocean robin]

lol

6 pages for a sentence

[sudden panther]

So now finish your sentence.

[cold vessel]

Solet, is it okay if I do this in stages?

[pine ginkgo]

sure

it's a lot easier if you just do the clauses by themselves

[ocean robin]

So where were we? Sie nimmt ihre Brieftasche aus der Handtasche. right?

[sudden panther]

Can we make it Schurke instead of criminal?

Why aus? And why der?

[ocean robin]

Wooopsie.

Forgot that aus + Akk

[cold vessel]

To catch a criminal you have to become a criminal.

Um einen Krimineller zu erwischen, musst du kriminell werden.

Is this okay so far?

[ocean robin]

And because we mentioned earlier "aus...heraus" and tha we just could put aus. Or I am fokken confused.

[pine ginkgo]

mhh

first

[sudden panther]

Does this count as proof, Solet?

[pine ginkgo]

yes arrem

check the ending for the first noun

second, sure

[cold vessel]

Me?

[pine ginkgo]

yeps

[sudden panther]

Here's a handy chart for you, Flopper. https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/221709483284496394/339907286048964619/eDSIrIY.png

[pine ginkgo]

first step, check your ending for your first noun

second step, you changed the sentence a bit, but the meaning is the same... kinda

and it's not important, so you can pass

[ocean robin]

Fokken I was right. I am just too confused I dunno why.

[sudden panther]

Being confused might become a marketable skill one day. Never lose hope.

[ocean robin]

It can't be a skill Arrem, wat

[cold vessel]

I changed it because "ein Kriminelle werden" sounds really odd in Norwegian, but I guess it's okay in German then?

dict.cc seems to suggest both "der Kriminelle" and "der Krimineller" works 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

well

dativ ending 😦

[cold vessel]

The r is for dative?

[pine ginkgo]

when have you ever seen r for a dative ending

[cold vessel]

Never

[pine ginkgo]

especially for masculine words

[cold vessel]

So I'm not sure what you're referring to

[sudden panther]

Have you done the adjektivische Deklination, henbri?

[pine ginkgo]

https://prnt.sc/guq87h

oh

wfuck

DAWE%W§%&W§&

FIUAFAF

[cold vessel]

Oh for fucks sake, I have to decline it because the noun comes from an adjective?

[pine ginkgo]

okay

fuck

disrefgardafaga me

agaetqaetz

ai have aegaetzaetz

alright

let's get down again

let's forget our discussion

i aer stupid

next question

sorry for the confusion henbri

anyway

it's

einen Kriminellen

[cold vessel]

So that's a yes to my question then

[sudden panther]

Essentially what you said, yes. Nouns that come from adjectives are declined like adjectives.

[pine ginkgo]

gah

(hides)

[sudden panther]

So when dcc was suggesting der Krimineller it actually wasn't. It was suggesting the masculine Krimineller which you would use without an article. der Kriminelle is the version with the article.

[opal sequoia]

It's okay, Luna.

I make mistakes too sometimes.

Despite being a native speaker of the language.

German, that is.

[cold vessel]

Um einen Kriminellen zu erwischen, musst du ein Krimineller werden.

Correct now?

[pine ginkgo]

why did you pass up on Verbrecher though?

[cold vessel]

I guess I just like words that sound familiar 🤷

[pine ginkgo]

we don't really use kriminell as a noun

but it works

so can we go on

[sudden panther]

Should have just listened to me and used Schurke.

[cold vessel]

Bandit

In Norwegian we have this trick you can do when listing compound nouns with the same suffix, literally this Handlungs- und Bewegungsmuster. Does this work in German?

[pine ginkgo]

yep

[cold vessel]

Nice

You have to become a criminal to analyze their behaviour and recognize patterns in their actions and movments

Du musst ein Krimineller werden, um ihr Verhalten zu analysieren und Handlungs- und Bewegungsmuster zu erkennen

The "und" is throwing me off a bit. Does this work?

[pine ginkgo]

yep

mhh

well small mistake

actualllly

nah

it's fine

[cold vessel]

What is it? If I write something that's technically correct but sounds odd I'd like to know

[pine ginkgo]

nah, it's just i thought i added a their to the patterns too

but i didn't

so it's correct :D

wait

actually

i did

for actions and movements

🤔

but since you made it compact

[opal sequoia]

movments*

[pine ginkgo]

it disappears

I FIXED IT BEFORE

[opal sequoia]

😏

[cold vessel]

Yeah at least in Norwegian the "ihr" would carry over to the next clause implicitly

[pine ginkgo]

it does here too

but it changes a bit here

since one is singular

and the other is plural

[cold vessel]

Oh, true

[pine ginkgo]

so you have to write it again

[cold vessel]

Du musst ein Krimineller werden, um ihr Verhalten zu analysieren und ihre Handlungs- und Bewegungsmuster zu erkennen

[pine ginkgo]

if it would be singular muster

you could omit it

but i made it plural

eheheh :P

[cold vessel]

Isnt it plural anyway since there are two different kinds of patterns?

[pine ginkgo]

"yes"

but if both muster would be singular

even though together they would be plural

you would refer to each of them with singular respectively

wait actually

why are you using ihr/ihre anyway

[cold vessel]

Ehhh, becaues I forgot "their" can be singular in English 👀

[pine ginkgo]

:P

[cold vessel]

Not totally clear on what you mean by "you would refer to each of them with singular respectively" though

[pine ginkgo]

Ich erkenne sein Handlungs- und Bewegungsmuster

vs Ich erkenne seine Handlungs- und Bewegungsmuster

[cold vessel]

Would this make this work as well? Sein Handlungs- und Bewegungsmuster ist [...]

[pine ginkgo]

i have to think actually

🤔

it shouldn't

but i am not sure

🤔

[cold vessel]

Um einen Kriminellen zu erwischen, musst du ein Krimineller werden, um sein Verhalten zu analysieren und sein Handlungs- und Bewegungsmuster zu erkennen, um endlich den Kriminellen einzusperren.

[pine ginkgo]

works

[cold vessel]

For comparison, how would you have translated it?

[opal sequoia]

@ocean robin Did you see a new sentence I wrote for you?

[ocean robin]

Whaaaa? No.

[cold vessel]

Where can I find the bookshop? Oh, it's just around the corner.

[opal sequoia]

Yeah, that's it, if you want it.

[pine ginkgo]

Um einen Verbrecher zu fassen, musst du selbst ein Verbrecher werden, um sein Verhalten zu analysieren und seine Handlungs- und Bewegungsmuster zu erkennen, damit man den Verbrecher endlich einsperren kann.

[ocean robin]

Oh.

[cold vessel]

Thanks, Solet ❤

[ocean robin]

Wo kann ich den Buchladen finden? Oh, es ist nur herum der Ecke. cases cases cases 🤔

[hot cloak]

*er

"nur um die Ecke" is what most of us would probably say

[ocean robin]

Er? Why er?

Ah.

[hot cloak]

der Laden 😄

[cold vessel]

How about gleich um die Ecke?

[ocean robin]

god I wasn't wrong on cases

[hot cloak]

Oh yeah, that works too.

[ocean robin]

The thing I feared the most 🤔

[hot cloak]

In fact "gleich um die Ecke" is probably better.

Feel like I'd use both depending on the situation

I'd probably say "Der Laden ist gleich um die Ecke" in most cases
And something like "Du musst nur hier um die Ecke" if I was giving directions and stressing how short the remaining distance is

[opal sequoia]

Okay, Flappy. Lanna really loves maths and wants to learn all about calculus. Try that.

[hot cloak]

Can confirm, I'm hot for calculus.

[sudden panther]

Shh.

[ocean robin]

Lanna liebt wirklich Mathe und sie will alle über Rechnung lernen. when flops is fast ™

[sudden panther]

Alle?

[ocean robin]

Alle.

[placid heath]

Das Integral müsste mit offener Grenze gen +\infty konvergieren, oder?

Das wäre ein viel cooleres integral

[sudden panther]

Na gut.

[placid heath]

rennt

[ocean robin]

👀

[placid heath]

Aber das ist dann nicht mehr pi

Es konvergiert nur, gegen was - keine Ahnung :P

[sudden panther]

Docherooni. Hab nachgeschaut.

[placid heath]

Oh. Beweisen Sie die Aussage.

[sudden panther]

https://i.imgur.com/8UAAOB5.png

[placid heath]

Ahhh

Das Integral ist irgendein Tangens, oder?

Oder Kosinus/Sinus oder so ein kram

Da geht das vermutlich?

[sudden panther]

A(rc)tan, ja.

[placid heath]

〰

[placid heath]

erf(x) :D

Naja, nicht exakt

[sudden panther]

So Flops. Maybe use something that isn't alle.

[ocean robin]

🤔

[hot cloak]

Very close though.

[sudden panther]

You can again try rephrasing the English sentence. What would you use if you couldn't use "all".

[ocean robin]

Everything?

[sudden panther]

Correcto.

Now go and look that up.

[ocean robin]

alles

[sudden panther]

Yes, alles is most certainly better.

[cold vessel]

"Rechnung" doesn't seem like an accurate translation of "calculus" 🤔

[opal sequoia]

What would you prefer, henbruas?

[ocean robin]

For once I picked the first word which was there

[pine ginkgo]

tbh

we don't have a good translation for calculus

that flaps can know

we don't really use calculus in german

[sudden panther]

^ My book just uses Differential- und Integralrechnung.

Alternatively make it lambda calculus and then you can use Kalkül.

[pine ginkgo]

we kinda differentiate between Analysis, Lineare Algebra, Stochastik und Numerik in math

as the main divisions in german for math

[opal sequoia]

Here's a sentence for you, Flappy: The cat jumps onto the table and drinks my coffee. Get off the table, cat!

[ocean robin]

"get off the table, cat" 👌🏾

[sudden panther]

Let her finish her current one first, Base. 😛

[ocean robin]

Beautiful.

[opal sequoia]

Oh, I thought she finished it.

[sudden panther]

I still haven't seen the full corrected version.

[hot cloak]

nooo let the cat drink the coffee

[opal sequoia]

Okay, Flappy, when you have written the final version you can have the cat sentence.

[pine ginkgo]

calculus would fall under Analysis for us

if we would adhere to our terms

[ocean robin]

Lanna liebt wirklich Mathe und sie will alles über Rechnung lernen.

there

[sudden panther]

Meh, we can let Rechnung slide. Do use Analysis in the future though. Even though it technically also includes bits and pieces of pre-calc.

[ocean robin]

Oki dokie.

Die Katze springt auf den Tisch und drinkt meiner Kaffee. Hau ab den Tisch, Katze! Though I am not sure about that "hau ab". That's at least what dict.cc suggets.

[placid heath]

der Kaffee

[sudden panther]

Hau ab den Tisch, Katze!!!!11111

[ocean robin]

Yeah, did I mess up on denclensions again?

[opal sequoia]

Did you read the sentence before posting it, Flappy?

[fair iron]

^

[ocean robin]

Oh, I see. Akk.

[sudden panther]

Does she ever?

[ocean robin]

I did

[opal sequoia]

There is an interesting mistake in there.

[ocean robin]

Ah. Intresting huh.

Does that mean silly and that I can find it myself?

[cold vessel]

You should

[fair iron]

Yes.

[placid heath]

Flops, find mistake or 🐶 🔫

[ocean robin]

Mmmh.

PLEASE DON'T KILL DOGGO

[placid heath]

Flops, 2017, colorized

[ivory jolt]

watching Flappchen learn is so amusing that i forgot to do homework

[hot cloak]

🐱 🔪

[ocean robin]

First there is meinen Kaffee since it's Akk and not Nominative

[ivory jolt]

wait what

[hot cloak]

^cheese that's true!

Hey guys, could I ask you how would you use tätsachlich in a sentence? Is it like "really"?

[fair iron]

Yep.

[ivory jolt]

meiner Kaffee was not even nominativ

[cold vessel]

Same, @ivory jolt

[ocean robin]

how to confuse a flops

[ivory jolt]

i mean your original mistake

[ocean robin]

yeah

[ivory jolt]

if you thought it was nomi, it would still be wrong

[sudden panther]

I could write a part 2 of my book.

[ocean robin]

Oh I see the thing I made there

Putted the denclensin for die in dative/genitive, dammit flops

[hot cloak]

it's like a survival show "flappsy shouldn't be alive"

[pine ginkgo]

putted

:P

[ocean robin]

😦

putted lmaoo

[ivory jolt]

this is worrying

[ocean robin]

when you forget irregular verbs in English

[sudden panther]

Putted indeed.

[ivory jolt]

forgetted

rip

[ocean robin]

leaved

[sudden panther]

leafd

[ivory jolt]

Focus flaps, don't join us, we can troll you but u're not allowed to troll back

[ocean robin]

[ivory jolt]

continue with homework

[ocean robin]

cries

[placid heath]

Wörk!

[hot oriole]

Dieses Phänomen heißt übrigens Apokope. Also das Wegfallen von Lauten am Wortende. Im Deutschen zieht sich dieser Prozess schon seit langer Zeit.

[cold vessel]

I think "putted" is the correct conjugation if you're playing golf 🤔

[opal sequoia]

Good point, henbri.

[hot oriole]

ups

wrong channel

sorry

[ocean robin]

Die Katze springt auf den Tisch und drinkt meinen Kaffee. Hau ab den Tisch, Katze! One mistake fixed. Silly one is still left?

[cold vessel]

Yes

[ocean robin]

uuugh

[placid heath]

drinkt 🤔

[hot cloak]

Nooooo

koreaa

flappy

whyyy

[ocean robin]

I KNEW IT I ALWAYS MESS UP TIS

[hot cloak]

u flop

[ocean robin]

AHH

[red pewter]

sleepy wave

[hot cloak]

Fläppy

[ocean robin]

[hot cloak]

mess this up*

korea you spoiled it

[pine ginkgo]

that's not the silly mistake though 🤔

[ocean robin]

I know right, I just ugh

[fair iron]

Hey, Bell!

[ocean robin]

WHAT

ARE YOU KIDDING

[red pewter]

Hi casca ❤

[fair iron]

❤

Solet isn't kidding, Flappy.

[ocean robin]

horrible typo
nuuuuh that's not the mistake

[red pewter]

Bell knows!

[ocean robin]

I don't think we can even call that a typo anymore

shiet bell knows

[pine ginkgo]

bell is smarts

[hot cloak]

hey bella

[red pewter]

Hi ❤

[hot cloak]

:heart:

[red pewter]

shiet bell knows. I feel like I should be insulted

[ocean robin]

I am just in an inifinite loop and I don't think I will get out of it wow, where's that mistake what the fok

Nou, you're not.

It makes me feel that I am the only one who searches for this mistake

[ivory jolt]

dont worry bell, she meant to say "shiet everyone knows"

[red pewter]

❤

[cold vessel]

while True:
    miss_mistake()

[ocean robin]

first let's correct drinken

[hot cloak]

no idea how abhauen works

If something is wrong I'd say

[placid heath]

drinken

[hot cloak]

flapps we believe in you

[placid heath]

🤕 🔫

[hot cloak]

you can find it

Hau von dem Tisch ab or something

but that may be worse

[ocean robin]

Die Katze springt auf den Tisch und trinkt meinen Kaffee. Hau ab den Tisch, Katze!

[red pewter]

coughs

[ocean robin]

wow where is it

[sudden panther]

Daniel.

If you want to translate things, we can give you a sentence. Let Flops do her own work.

[ocean robin]

Wait did Daniel just spoil?

[sudden panther]

No.

[ivory jolt]

no

[hot cloak]

I was wrong

[ocean robin]

awwww

[hot cloak]

as expected

[ocean robin]

[stark drift]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[hot cloak]

it would be vom anyway in my case

[ocean robin]

Wait, is it dem Tisch in the second clause since it's a location? 🤔

I feel like I am overthinking...

[sudden panther]

You're never overthinking.

[ocean robin]

Nooooo, neeeever.

[fair iron]

If that clause was remotely correct, it might have been, Flappy.

[sudden panther]

remotely correct
Holy memes Casca. 🔥

[ocean robin]

Yay, that means it is false!

[ivory jolt]

very

[ocean robin]

But I can't see where!

[fair iron]

I'm just being honest, Arrem. ^^

[ocean robin]

_>

[fair iron]

In the entire clause, Flappy.

That's where.

[ocean robin]

The entire clause?!

[fair iron]

Yes.

Tisch is the only element that actually belongs in that clause.

[ivory jolt]

"Hau ab den Tisch"

[ocean robin]

oh wait

[ivory jolt]

[ocean robin]

is it nominative?

[sudden panther]

Wot.

[ivory jolt]

as he just stated, "Tisch" was the only correct word

[ocean robin]

pleeease

What is it? Word order? Silly word choices?

[ivory jolt]

that means =>> rewrite the whole "get of the table" pls

[ocean robin]

oh god

[ivory jolt]

oh, also Katze is correct maybe

[ocean robin]

[fair iron]

*off. 😛

True, Katze also belongs in there somewhere.

[ocean robin]

I feel like I went in derp mode in this sentence.

[sudden panther]

This could have turned out way worse https://i.imgur.com/ELasg7P.png

[cold vessel]

😂

[hot cloak]

naissuu

[red pewter]

O_O

[pine ginkgo]

:D

flaps, how would you translate it to french

just the last part

pokes flops

i think we lost her 😦

[fair iron]

@ocean robin Come back please. ❤

[ivory jolt]

last time she left reading session was because a random kid asked her to play with him

[red pewter]

RIP

[fair iron]

Wait, seriously? 😮

[red pewter]

bell wanted to join the learning 😦

[ocean robin]

I just wrote a mail and I need a lot of hugs.

[pine ginkgo]

bell must sleep 😦

[ivory jolt]

aw

[ocean robin]

Now I am almost crying. Send help.

[hot cloak]

hugs

[opal sequoia]

❤

[ivory jolt]

sorry flaps

[fair iron]

What upsets you, Flappy?

[ocean robin]

It's not you, it's okay.

Actually, being here could cheer me up.

[sudden panther]

It's totally us.

I bet it was Casca.

[ocean robin]

Anyway, let's see on dict.cc.

[red pewter]

🤗 we love you flaps

[ocean robin]

What did you do. When you expose my mistakes I am laughing and even crying of joy.

[pine ginkgo]

flopser, how would you translate get off the table to french

[ocean robin]

[sudden panther]

So there's the problem. When we tell you about your mistakes, you're actually supposed to learn from them, silly.

[ocean robin]

"Enlève toi de la table" ou "vas t'en de la table"

[fair iron]

I would never willingly upset someone, Arrem. 😦

[pine ginkgo]

okay

[ocean robin]

such possibilites

[pine ginkgo]

nice

try translating that to german

:P

[sudden panther]

What if you meet someone who's upset by people who don't want to willingly upset people? 🤔

[ivory jolt]

inb4 she replies hau ab den Tisch

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

oh, enlever works 🤔

[full falcon]

Dégage de cette @##&@@ de table

[ocean robin]

LOL THAT WORKS

[full falcon]

Works too

[pine ginkgo]

your french sentence is a big hint for you

[sudden panther]

Verpiss 🍆 dich 🐱 du blöde 😜 Katze. 😿

[opal sequoia]

"Enlève toi de la Tisch, Katze!"

[hot cloak]

Bilingual cats.

[ocean robin]

Mh, for "s'enlever" I see "abspringen"

[pine ginkgo]

lol base

[ivory jolt]

most cats can french

[red pewter]

Poor kittens 😦

[ocean robin]

Also, Base, I did a n

wow typed Enter too fast.

It's enlève-toi

[tribal warren]

@ivory jolt Scientifically proven

[red pewter]

i just learned what "verpiss dich" meant recently because my friend in germany won't speak english to me anymore and he loves to insult me D:

[opal sequoia]

Eh? I just copied and pasted your sentence.

[ocean robin]

Yes, I say that I did a silly mistake in my native language.

[ivory jolt]

wow what an interesting friend..

[opal sequoia]

Oh I see.

[tribal warren]

That's a true friendo

[red pewter]

yeah, he's....something....

[ivory jolt]

learn german and insult him back

[tribal warren]

true friendos insult you in various languages

[ocean robin]

"Ich hasse dich" "what does that mean?" "It means I love you."

[hot cloak]

We'll help you craft the ultimate comebacks.

[fair iron]

True friends make you cry from happiness, not sadness.

[red pewter]

I am! I said something that impressed him the other day but it's not appropriate :33

[pine ginkgo]

okay flups

try to translate de la table to german

[ivory jolt]

true friends also make you cry from their dank pranks

[ocean robin]

Was going to type "of the table"

von dem Tisch?

Can we just say vom?

[pine ginkgo]

okay flaps

[ocean robin]

[pine ginkgo]

before you continue

translate

get off the table, cat

to german

[ocean robin]

Nice, Nico is impressed by my skills

[hot cloak]

"was für ein richtiger Hurensohn"
"What are you saying about me?"
"We were just talking about how we're really happy to have such a smart person in the school."

[ocean robin]

So I said abspringen for to get off, right?

[pine ginkgo]

no

yeah flaps

just take it

it's alright for now

[ivory jolt]

was für comes with nomi?

[hot cloak]

asked it once before

still nominative

[ivory jolt]

TIL

[hot cloak]

was für doesn't take für as literally

[ocean robin]

Spring ab vom Tisch, Katze!

that doesn't look the same at all

LOL

[ivory jolt]

wow my whole life was a lie

[hot cloak]

lol

[pine ginkgo]

very close, flops!

[fair iron]

^

[pine ginkgo]

you see the difference to your previous translation, though?

[placid heath]

Enleve-toi de la table, chat d'enfer!

[hot cloak]

abhauen means something really different?

abhauen isn't just jump off

like einen Kopf abhauen

[ivory jolt]

btw Luna, is it umgangsprachlichly correct so say spring ab vom tisch? cus some german do say like that, as i heard

[hot cloak]

?

abhauen is like

skoot

slightly different implication

[placid heath]

jemandem den Kopf abhauen - to chop off someone's head

[pine ginkgo]

you can

i wouldn't for tisch

but you could if you like

[hot cloak]

does abhacken also work

[ivory jolt]

i mean i hear germans mess up the positions when they speak without thinking, sometimes

[hot cloak]

for that case

My former roommate would usually yell "Hau ab jetz'!" or something when she wanted the cats to jump off the kitchen counter or table or w/e

[pine ginkgo]

no

[hot cloak]

I heard in a rap song

[pine ginkgo]

anyway, floppser

what happens to the seperable prefix in a sentence

or rather, where is it put

[hot cloak]

"ich hack deinen Schwanz ab und steck ihn in deinen Mund" brutal

[ocean robin]

dammit

[placid heath]

wtf

Daniel

[pine ginkgo]

if you are really angry, you can say it like your current translation

[ocean robin]

Spring vom Tisch ab, Katze!

[pine ginkgo]

but we take it that you are not angry :P

[ocean robin]

[ivory jolt]

eyy

[hot cloak]

lol

song: 5 krasse Rapper

[pine ginkgo]

you can't know that yet

[ocean robin]

please tell me it's right

please

[pine ginkgo]

yeah

[ivory jolt]

GJ

[pine ginkgo]

but better ways to say it would be

Runter vom Tisch!

[placid heath]

Spoiler - Flappy, do not click. That's what I would say. https://hastebin.com/bulabaquze.nginx

[pine ginkgo]

or Verschwinde vom Tisch

[sudden panther]

Solet is being really merciful lately.

[pine ginkgo]

or Weg vom Tisch

[ivory jolt]

"bitte verlassen Sie den Tisch, Herr Kater"

[ocean robin]

I was gooooing to click on this and I saw "spoiler"

[pine ginkgo]

but that requires you to know more german :P

[hot cloak]

@sudden panther I've noticed it too

[pine ginkgo]

well i told her to use her french translation as a basis

[placid heath]

Dear cat. If you do not mind I'd ask you if you could consider relocating yourself.

[pine ginkgo]

and spring ab is... fine too

[ocean robin]

LOL

[pine ginkgo]

so i don't want to reprimand flops for that

[ocean robin]

AMAZING KOREA

Oh, okay Solet.

[red pewter]

weg means gone right :? I've seen it in "alles is weg"

[pine ginkgo]

but you noticed the difference, flops?

between your previous translation

[ocean robin]

HELL YEAH

[pine ginkgo]

and your translation after you did the french one?

:P

[sudden panther]

Yes, bell.

[ocean robin]

Does that mean I should help myself with French while translating?

[sudden panther]

Among other things.

[pine ginkgo]

it can

[ivory jolt]

"Lieber Herr Kater, könnten SIe sich vielleicht bewegen, am liebsten in Richtung weg vom Tisch" 😐

[opal sequoia]

It's best to think of it like "away" I think, bell.

[pine ginkgo]

not always, flaps, but it can sometimes

[sudden panther]

Ehhh, using languages for other languages can be dangerous. Don't learn to rely on it or expect French, English or any other language to solve all your German problems. Learning to think in German is how you solve all your German problems.

[pine ginkgo]

though prepositions for french verbs are kinda random too compared to german

so i wouldn't rely on it

[ocean robin]

Yeah, true.

[hot cloak]

"in Richtung weg vom Tisch" is my new favorite expression, I love it

[pine ginkgo]

lol

[opal sequoia]

Lanna, can you give Flappy a new sentence bitte?

[ivory jolt]

is it utterly downright wrong?

cus i made that up

[true fractal]

In the direction away from the table?

[red pewter]

"in direction away from the table" :?

[hot cloak]

I mean, you can say "in Richtung Norden", so if you consider it "in Richtung weg-vom-Tisch" it actually kinda works

I was serious btw, I think it's such a funny way to phrase it

It sounds so good in German

[ivory jolt]

yeah like, sarcastically, in direction Notthetable

[pine ginkgo]

yeah :D

[hot cloak]

Ah and a new sentence, huh? 🤔

[opal sequoia]

Yes.

[pine ginkgo]

do you like In Richtung deines Hinterns, too, Lanna`:P

[ocean robin]

Can I do it?

[sudden panther]

Don't make it too complicated.

[red pewter]

bell wants to participate !

[hot cloak]

I'm gonna direct a kick "in Richtung Arsch"

[cold vessel]

https://i.imgur.com/p2qx3Z7.png

[pine ginkgo]

lol henbri

[ocean robin]

Don't write a novel

LOL

[sudden panther]

Solet you can find something for bell.

Or Base or whoever.

[pine ginkgo]

nah

[hot cloak]

"I'll show you the true power of our wine."

How's that.

[ivory jolt]

since Flappseed has passed the test, we should now start correcting her in German

[ocean robin]

LOL

[opal sequoia]

Seems good.

[hot cloak]

It's gonna be a useful phrase in your future.

😛

[red pewter]

no correcting bell in german unless it's "du hast recht!" ❤

[sudden panther]

Ich werde ausstellen du die wahre Antriebskraft von unserem Rebensaft
Lets see if Flops can outmeme me.

[ivory jolt]

"da hattest du leider Unrecht"

[red pewter]

T_T

[ocean robin]

Ich werde dir die wahre Kraft unseres Wein zeigen!

[hot cloak]

Super close!

[ocean robin]

OMG

WAIT I SEE

[hot cloak]

:3

[red pewter]

oh there was a sentence :/

[ocean robin]

Weines? Or I don't know thingy like that?

[opal sequoia]

Here is one if you want one of your own, bell: Nothing is more fun than watching Flappy translate sentences!

[hot cloak]

👏

[ocean robin]

because genitive

OOOOH

Ich werde dir die wahre Kraft unseres Weines zeigen!

[hot cloak]

👏 👏 👏

[ocean robin]

only one mistake :^)

[true fractal]

isn't it unseren?

[sudden panther]

Keinding ist mehr spaßig als aufpassen auf Floppers übersetzend Sätze.

[quasi merlin]

Arrem, you meme.

[ocean robin]

💯

[sudden panther]

Hi Mikameme.

[hot cloak]

flapps gut gemacht

[ocean robin]

Hey Mika!

[quasi merlin]

Hey Fläppers!

[ivory jolt]

arrem, why does it sound like a legit german sentence

[ocean robin]

Can I try too?

[sudden panther]

Does it? 🤔

[pine ginkgo]

does it?

[quasi merlin]

It doesn't.

[ivory jolt]

[opal sequoia]

I need to get some sleep. Thanks for the fun conversation, everyone.

[hot cloak]

Good night Base!

[ocean robin]

See you Base. Thanks for being here.

[sudden panther]

Noooooo. Good night Base, we'll never forget you!!!! 😦

[ivory jolt]

waitsy, who's gonna correct bell

[sudden panther]

You are!

[ocean robin]

me.

[opal sequoia]

You, Link.

[quasi merlin]

Good night, Base.

[sudden panther]

Yes! Flops can correct bell.

[red pewter]

Nichts ist mehr Spaß als Flappy Sätze übersetzen zusehen just fuck me up

[sudden panther]

Go Flops.

[opal sequoia]

I wonder if Flappy is better or worse at correcting other people compared to correcting herself.

[sudden panther]

Go hard on her.

[ivory jolt]

ahh correcting bell's sentence would reveal the correct answer to floppydisk's task too

[ocean robin]

Mmmmh.

[ivory jolt]

so i cant just yet

[red pewter]

bye base

[sudden panther]

Eheheheh Floppydisk.

[ocean robin]

First why zusehen?

[quasi merlin]

Floppydisk

lol

[ocean robin]

please

[red pewter]

because watching :?

[ocean robin]

Wait, I see, okay, wait.

What was the original one again?

[sudden panther]

https://giphy.com/gifs/popcorn-bill-hader-actors-gl0mkIZOW6Nwc

Nothing is more fun than watching Flappy translate sentences!

Man I haven't had popcorn in a while.

[cold vessel]

Nothing is more fun than watching flappy *correct sentences

[ivory jolt]

it would be funny if you come up with arrem's sentence to flapseed

[red pewter]

i had popcorn the other night drunk. i dipped it in "I can't believe it's not butter"

It was disgusting. It was great.

[sudden panther]

Real butter is just lovely on popcorn.

[ocean robin]

The "Sätze übersetzen zusehen" is bothering me for a reason that I can't figure out.

[sudden panther]

Put more thought into it then.

[ocean robin]

I want to say that it's right, but it doesn't look like it, woah I am thinking so much about the mistakes

[red pewter]

O_O

[ocean robin]

Teachers, can you give us a hint?

[true fractal]

I'm not sure about the last part, but I know you say Spaß machen

[red pewter]

machen?

[true fractal]

Es macht Spaß

[red pewter]

why T_T

[true fractal]

Nichts macht mehr Spaß

[ivory jolt]

etwas macht spaß = etwas ist lustig, erholsam, usw

[quasi merlin]

Also, nominalization or more clauses

[red pewter]

oh

[sudden panther]

Man, all these people that spoil stuff.

[ivory jolt]

she wanted the H

Hint

[sudden panther]

We know that you know it, B speakers. 😛

[ocean robin]

Ooooooh yeah.

[ivory jolt]

but it was coming to a stalemate ><

[red pewter]

the B speakers are harder on us than the natives are 😄

[ivory jolt]

so we have gehelpen

[hot cloak]

from experience with English

natives generally find it more difficult to critique people trying to learn their language

[pine ginkgo]

do i? 🤔

[hot cloak]

unless it's Luna

[red pewter]

😄