@pallid kelp
#general-2
sturdy shadow
pallid kelp
xD
mossy void
you can say ilk without of, i'm fairly certain, does make you sound a bit folksy tho
pallid kelp
gegen?
pallid kelp
:o
sturdy shadow
Woah i look tall on that pic
My name's Dirge and I'm playing Offense line in college yo
lost dagger
placid heath
Well I think his whole behavior is ridiculous
sudden panther
Kanov. #282831147942281216, please.
placid heath
Umm no
whole rapids
you can be our enemy
placid heath
If you're talking about my avatar, that's just a satirical picture I picked up somewhere
whole rapids
become the hatred of the world we can unify around
you know, a common enemy and all that
placid heath
Kanov, I don't want to argue with you. If you don't like my avatar, that's absolutely fine. Nobody forces you to like it.
twilit garden
he cannot answer atm
placid heath
¯_(ツ)_/¯
lost dagger
Lucky bugger got a special role
hot cloak
clean user Kanov
pine ginkgo
what the fuck
lost dagger
Did it only clean this channel?
pine ginkgo
ye
twilit garden
it did, but the ban did the rest 
crystal delta
Botto cleaned him >:)
hot cloak
placid heath
Fancy
hot cloak
thanks ❤
sudden panther
🚰
twilit garden
we'd be scurrying like cockroaches without 0x1 ❤
olive valley
that guy is supremely weird
pine ginkgo
you seem to have won
hot cloak
was*
whole rapids
he was certainly different than the typical trolls
twilit garden
Ja, woran hatted jelejen
pine ginkgo
but it seems by referee decision rather than your own skill
are you still satisfied?
sudden panther
"different" https://i.imgur.com/ihN27dZ.png
ocean robin
pine ginkgo
before that he only asked for translations for old philosophical books or so
without wanting to learn german
so there's that
placid heath
Sol, seems alright. I guess having your contrahent in an argument shot into lower earth orbit by the swing of a ban hammer is a fine way to finish a conversation ¯_(ツ)_/¯
whole rapids
ah yes, I was employing understatement
If I was to be more accurate
he was fucking bonkers
olive valley
funnily enough he asked for a 200 page translation on the French learning discord
pine ginkgo
lol what?
whole rapids
wat
olive valley
weird guy
sudden panther
Probably thinks it's funny to waste people's time.
olive valley
seems so yea
thick charm
damn what did I miss?
whole rapids
an intellectual
twilit garden
a shitty lonely guy
lost dagger
placid heath
thick charm
twilit garden
nice to have you in exchange for him
thick charm
aww
pine ginkgo
did he write more than 4 lines here?
twilit garden
he wrote more in #writing before that
pine ginkgo
here
pine ginkgo
i kinda wanted to see what else he was trying to say to our lord
sudden panther
Here no. He went on to talk how it would be silly to have Merkel lead you in a war against Turkey, which is when we decided to get rid of him.
grave adder
Trolls D:
shy bobcat
Trolls 😦
proven cedar
Well, that would be silly, but for a different reason than i think he intended it to be 😛
sudden panther
Just a smelly troll. Nothing to worry about. 😉
ocean robin
So yee.
opal sequoia
Okay, so I'll write it again: "The French girl's favourite horse". 🐴
ocean robin
Oki dokie.
sudden panther
des lieblingsferd dem französischem mädchen
quasi merlin
(Arrem, why)
ocean robin
...
sudden panther
(Mika, sorry. <3)
ocean robin
Yeah, jus wait a sec. I am translating.
quasi merlin
Nobody cares.
sudden panther
Yeah see this is why I suggested #questions. Because I can yell at people for being offtopic there.
ocean robin
Mika, savage.
lunar urchin
for learning? sure...
sudden panther
Ok, I'm done here.
ocean robin
I am sorry but please, I need concentration, thank you
pine ginkgo
good job arrem
ocean robin
weww banned
sudden panther
Please enjoy some lovely peace and quiet™.
opal sequoia
Thank you Arrem.
ocean robin
Yes, let's do LEARNING TIME Flops 2017.
cold palm
Thanks
ocean robin
Genitive episode. 
sudden panther
So. Base. Give us the sentence again and let's maybe try not to get it burried in banter.
grave adder
Did I miss another banning?
opal sequoia
"The French girl's favourite horse".
grave adder
Why oh why
ocean robin
let's go.
opal sequoia
And if anyone else wants to try it, let me know, I'll give you one.
viral thunderBOT
sturdy shadow
Did the edgy teen get banned?
sudden panther
Yes.
quasi merlin
Yes.
grave adder
Me?
cold vessel
How are you doing fraktur in latex?
sudden panther
\mathfrak
ocean robin
"Das Liegblingspferd des französichen Mädchen"?
wait no.
Des. Not Dem.
WHY.
let me rephrase dat.
sudden panther
The dem might be my fault. badpokerface
pine ginkgo
ban arrem again
opal sequoia
Yes.
sudden panther
Do rephrase it though. And think about the genitive endings.
sturdy shadow
Good to see its gone
ocean robin
OH.
sturdy shadow
Thanks mods
sudden panther
it
👌
ocean robin
LMAO
sturdy shadow
The only edgy teen allowed is flöpsi
twilit garden
and Solet
sturdy shadow
They aint edgy
ocean robin
Am I edgy?
sturdy shadow
Super edgy
sudden panther
Yes. Now back to work or banned.
ocean robin
Wow.
sturdy shadow
I bet u only wear black or very dark grey
ocean robin
LOL NO
sturdy shadow
And have at least four Evanescence albums
twilit garden
BRING ME BACK TO LIFE
ocean robin
THERE'S A MISTAKE ON THE SECOND ADJECTIVE
quasi merlin
YES, BUT ONLY A TYPO
sudden panther
USE THE CORRECT ARTICLE
AND LOOK UP THE PROPER SPELLING OF FRENCH
AND THINK ABOUT GENITIVE ENDINGS
sudden panther
AND WE SHOULD STOP SCREAMING
quasi merlin
NEIN
ocean robin
I DIDN'T USE THE RIGHT ARTICLE
quasi merlin
WER SCHREIT, HAT RECHT
ocean robin
let's do once again without screaming
sudden panther
No you used "dem". You corrected yourself afterwards, but you should correct the whole sentence too. 😉
ocean robin
Oh yeah lol
so after that there is the "french" don't tell me I have just forgotten one letter or so...
or swapped 2 letters, that's a thing
quasi merlin
You have.
pine ginkgo
go write flaps
quasi merlin
You swapped 2 letters in another word.
ocean robin
quasi merlin
And forgot a letter in "french"
ocean robin
mmmh let me see dat again
sudden panther
Oh I totally missed "Liegblingspferd"
ocean robin
LOL
grand seal
Rewrite it while paying attention. 😂
ocean robin
wait yeah there is a typo. FINALLY I CAN SEE A TYPO WITHOUT PROOFCHECK.
Damn, Jawzie. 
Oki, so let's do this
pine ginkgo
i have the feeling flappsy needs more time just to translate a genitive sentence
than if we give her a long sentence
🤔
quasi merlin
It's not even a complete sentence
pine ginkgo
yep
pine ginkgo
close
sudden panther
Good. Now think about genitive endings.
ocean robin
dammit.
sturdy shadow
Guys ima get food now
pine ginkgo
now write it correctly
sudden panther
Like, I think you're literally missing what I've been explaining for the last two days, so let's put it in simpler words.
If it's masculine or neuter and in genitive, you have to add an ES or an S at the end. I'm not sure if there's a rule for when you add which ending. 🤔
ocean robin
🤔
opal sequoia
The rule is: learn it.
ocean robin
Thank you Arrem, but I think I saw the mistake right away 5 secs ago.
grand seal
Base, that's rule number one of German, really.
sudden panther
Good. Now rewrite your sentence.
pine ginkgo
"after everyone telling you to look at it"
lavish saddle
Substantive, die auf einen Zischlaut, beispielsweise -ss, -z oder -tz enden, bilden den Genitiv grundsätzlich auf -es, also des Hasses, des Glanzes, des Satzes, des Reflexes. Nur -s wird verwendet bei Substantiven, die auf -en, -em, -el, -er oder auch mit einer Verkleinerungssilbe enden, also etwa des Schwimmens, des Pegels, des Fahrers, des Büchleins, des Gärtchens. for Arrem
ocean robin
Oh my god.
opal sequoia
Doesn't exist, Kelsey.
ocean robin
I am going to eat. 
opal sequoia
Enjoy.
sudden panther
That's lovely Kels, thanks. 😄
ocean robin
Before, sentence:
lavish saddle
x) you're welcome, Duden explaination 👌
grand seal
No food until you finish your German. "
pine ginkgo
yeah
pine ginkgo
are you sure, flaps?
ocean robin
goddmait
quasi merlin
It's correct.
ocean robin
yay
sudden panther
Dammit Mika. 😦
cold vessel
Question: Would "Das Lieblingspferd der Französin" be a bad translation because it implies a woman instead of a girl?
lavish saddle
👏
ocean robin
now I go eating
sudden panther
That's not how you build up confidence. 😛
quasi merlin
I'm the best Spielverderber.
opal sequoia
It would be fine unless context required more detail, henbruas.
grand seal
'to eat'*
opal sequoia
In this case, it would be acceptable.
sudden panther
Viele Mikas verderben das Spiel. 😦
cold vessel
Also are diminutive denonyms a thing?
grand seal
Uhh
cold vessel
Like, can you make a word that means "small french person"?
grand seal
I haven't ever heard one.
lavish saddle
🤔
quasi merlin
Don't think so.
pine ginkgo
if you are a schwabe
opal sequoia
You can probably just say junge Französin or something.
grand seal
Franzöchen sounds weird.
grand seal
And doesn't exist
grand seal
Because I spelled it wrong.
grand seal
I blame you directly
quasi merlin
Whoa.
sudden panther
So rude.
valid ice
He... tortures you directly? 🤔
grand seal
Whether you're at fault or not isn't important. I still blame you.
pine ginkgo
sure, as long as it makes your german better :)
pine ginkgo
if not, you're gonna have to rethink it
opal sequoia
@valid ice
valid ice
Yes! It was my cat a year and a half ago! 😄
grand seal
Luna, if my German level were based on my ability to blame others for my shortcomings, I'd be C3 by now.
opal sequoia
Adorable kittycats server.
valid ice
My cat refuses to do anything remotely cute anymore though
So this is the newest picture 😐
She just moans and sleeps in a grumpy manner
opal sequoia
Aw.
grand seal
Is your cat me?
opal sequoia
You wish you were that cute.
pine ginkgo
i wish you were cute
opal sequoia
Me too. 😦
grand seal
I feel so attacked right now.
ICH WERDE BEDRÄNGT.
The violence inherent in the system!
opal sequoia
Jawzie next ban?
grand seal
valid ice
👌🏽 Who made Arrem king anyway
ocean robin
I am back.
opal sequoia
For what?
opal sequoia
Yeah, there are some in #resources but did you want something more specific?
lunar urchin
https://www.reddit.com/r/German/wiki/index this one maybe?
this is linked there: https://coerll.utexas.edu/gg/gr/index.html
hot cloak
You could save some lines by using \n for newlines
whole rapids
can't really read the lines of code
not useless if you're practising
not sure why there are thinking faces under what I said
what I mean is that I can't read your lines of code, the image is too blurry for me, but I'd like to read them
sudden panther
Cute.
grave adder
@hot cloak I once made a C program for my dad on Father's Day, he got really annoyed when I insisted on showing it to him because he thought it was some kind of crappy game
😅
Managed to show it to him at the end though
I get that :c
Happens a lot lol
opal sequoia
Okay, @ocean robin
ocean robin
Yus.
opal sequoia
Starting with an easy one: "My sister's boss".
sudden panther
😮
opal sequoia
😮
sudden panther
Arrem is always here. Watching. Silently judging.
opal sequoia
Silently.
ocean robin
"Der Chef der Schwester." 🤔
opal sequoia
Reread what I wrote, Flappy. 😏
ocean robin
sudden panther
In particular, whose sister?
fair iron
Can't be my sister, I don't have one.
ocean robin
What.
sudden panther
Me neither, we're like, the same person. 😮
fair iron
Touché.
sudden panther
You said "the boss of the sister", Base wanted "the boss of my sister".
sudden panther
But what you said is indeed correct. Just not what he asked for. A tiny change should do the trick. 👌
sudden panther
Good Flopps.
ocean robin
I don't want to say something wrong, so let's check, but before that
Could "meiner" be correct?
thick charm
✅
opal sequoia
Yep.
opal sequoia
😄
ocean robin
"der Chef meiner Schwester."
sudden panther
Now find the mistake.
sudden panther
You tell me.
ocean robin
I don't see any. I doublechecked "Schwester" because I knew I could do a typo.
sudden panther
Correct. Your sentence is fine. 👌
opal sequoia
Hehe.
opal sequoia
Okay, Flappy, next stage of the challenge.
opal sequoia
"The house belongs to my sister".
ocean robin
WHAT.
sudden panther
Dibs on the next next stage of the challenge.
ancient spade
That's not genitive, is it?
ancient spade
Dative afaik
ocean robin
because the sister's house is the same thing
nocturne spruce
You could translate it as My sister's House
ancient spade
Then it would be genitive haha
opal sequoia
I have one last one after this, Arrem.
ocean robin
It is.
opal sequoia
Then you can.
sudden panther
Stop spoiling things B speakers.
ocean robin
Goood, a seperable verb.
ancient spade
Haha sorry
nocturne spruce
On the note of Level B
ancient spade
I'll crawl back to my lonely corner and stay in a fetal position
nocturne spruce
Do you plan on getting the Level C role anytime soon Arrem?
ocean robin
"Das Haus gehört meiner Schwester zu." I think. I see "zugehören" for he translation of "to belong".
thick charm
You don't need the zu
sudden panther
Soon. ™ No guarantees how soon soon™ is though.
ocean robin
What. Why can I delete the zu?
sudden panther
Because just gehören means belong.
nocturne spruce
gehoeren alone suffices
nocturne spruce
The meaning is complete with or without "zu"
viscid cape
With 'zu' the meaning changes though.
sudden panther
So Flops. What if it was "my brother" instead of "my sister"?
sudden panther
Sure about that?
ocean robin
I have no idea about the declinasion there, but I say yes. >:)
nocturne spruce
What case is this in flappy?
opal sequoia
What happened the last time you had a masculune noun in genitive, Flappy?
viscid cape
"declinasion" oui oui.
sudden panther
Technically it's dative here, not genitive, but I'd like to remind you of this conversation https://i.imgur.com/GBcrOft.png
sudden panther
Gehören just takes dative.
ocean robin
AH.
cold vessel
http://www.duden.de/rechtschreibung/gehoeren Shouldn't it say somewhere that it takes dative?
ocean robin
I SHOULD LEARN DATIVE VERBS
sudden panther
Yes. Meinem Bruder. But the genitive of mein Bruder would be meines Bruders.
ocean robin
Yeah.
opal sequoia
Yeah. It's fine not to know them already, Flappy. You can learn them as you come across them if you want.
sudden panther
While it doesn't explicitly state it, you can figure it out from the example usages.
viscid cape
It should say it more clearly in my opinion.
cold vessel
@sudden panther That's a really bad way to present that though
opal sequoia
Explicitly.
ocean robin
I just know "danken" and "glauben" are dative verbs because I use them too much.
sudden panther
Oh agreed, yeah, but eh. What can you do.
nocturne spruce
Not sure why
opal sequoia
Anyway, Flappy, here's the next one. "The house belongs to the boss of my brother".
ocean robin
WOW.
nocturne spruce
Oh that's a tough one
viscid cape
@cold vessel You should use other dictionary as a beginner anyway :v
ocean robin
Base, do you want to kill me?
nocturne spruce
If you get this right flappy, we'll throw you a party
ocean robin
WOAH
ocean robin
let me rephrase that in French, that'll help
cold vessel
@viscid cape Such as?
nocturne spruce
It doesn't have anything new, just a bit longer so think about it a bit longer
ocean robin
"La maison appartient au partron de mon frère"
fair iron
Flappy, remember that pinned post in #questions, of all the verbs that take the dative case? ^^
sudden panther
If you get this one right before 18:00, I'll give you a 🍪.
viscid cape
fair iron
Those who give should also receive. Take this, Arrem: 🍪.
ocean robin
"Das Haus gehört meines Chefs meines Bruders" Wait. Is Chef also genitive?
sudden panther
You tell us.
thick charm
which case does gehören take again
fair iron
^
ocean robin
DAMMIT
ocean robin
But where is it dative though, I think I have an idea.
opal sequoia
And is it "your" boss? "My boss of my brother"?
thick charm
whom does the house belong to?
nocturne spruce
Ahh Base
ocean robin
"Chef" is dative and "Bruder" is gentive because technically it's the brother's house.
nocturne spruce
I wanted her to notice it without help
ocean robin
And oh yeah.
sudden panther
Your answer is correct, but your reasoning is completely wrong. 🤔
opal sequoia
Sorry. 😄
sudden panther
The boss owns the house, not the brother.
ocean robin
AH.
thick charm
but you got your reasoning swapped
thick charm
nope
ocean robin
sudden panther
Well yes, but neither meines nor des.
sudden panther
Yes.
thick charm
✅
ocean robin
"Das Haus gehört dem Chef des Bruders."
thick charm
It's still your brother
sudden panther
Whose brother?
sudden panther
^I was actually gonna do an example like that Ninja.
ocean robin
let me rephrase that
cold vessel
So did "zugehören" and "gehören" mean the same thing?
nocturne spruce
Practically
ocean robin
"Das Haus gehört dem Chef meines Bruders."
nocturne spruce
Yay
ocean robin
🎉
nocturne spruce
3 minutes before the timer
sudden panther
Congratulations, you get a cookie! 🍪
ocean robin
Thank you for the cookie. ❤
ocean robin
yaaaay
nocturne spruce
Now is Arrem's turn to give a sentence
thick charm
So zugehören and gehören don't mean the same thing. If something belongs to something else, you use zugehören. If someone owns something, it's gehören.
Don't confuse either of the two with dazugehören though
opal sequoia
But you still have to make sure you carefully look at your sentences when you write them.
sudden panther
Also to clear something up for a sec.
thick charm
It's confusing because all translate to "belong" in English. The big thing here is the difference between something belonging to something and something belonging to someone.
sudden panther
Someone mentioned that dict.cc didn't explicitly state the case for "gehören", which is false. https://i.imgur.com/S4T4dNE.png
jdm. and jdn. are jemandem and jemanden respectively, and are used to give hints about the case of a verb. So jdm. gehören = DAT, jdn. sehen = ACC
sudden panther
Oh. 🤔
cold vessel
Duden still didn't though
ocean robin
oooooooh
opal sequoia
Yeah, and it's also worth noting for etw. that you can assume it's accusative unless: 1) it's posted with jdm. or 2) it states dative next to it.
pine ginkgo
mh?
ocean robin
Oki dokie.
viscid cape
@pine ginkgo That's very sloppy though, that information should be unambiguously stated sepparatedly
ocean robin
Who said he was going to give me a sentence?
nocturne spruce
Arrem did
ocean robin
I am quite happy I did hem right quite rapidly.
thick charm
Yup, you're steadily improving.
thick charm
^ Nobody should ever learn Latin.
sudden panther
Righto. So, Flops, the thing Ninja mentioned earlier is kinda how you should be thinking about the genitive. Break it up into pieces. First translate the sentence you have in mind without the gentive part, and then add the genitive to indicate the posession.
So if we do something She didn't read her husband's letter, you'd go for
She didn't read the letter first and then add the her husband's part, that way you won't be dealing with two cases at the same time, and eventually your brain will adapt to the genitive an you'll be able to skip the separation part. Shall we give it a try? 😄
pine ginkgo
also duden is not really what you should use as a learner
viscid cape
Yeah it's pretty much a native's dictionary
cold vessel
It states what case prepositions take though
nocturne spruce
The reason you do seperate it, is so you don't end up with a similar mistake to the one earlier, where you thought it was the brother's house rather than the boss
ocean robin
Sure, Arrem.
sudden panther
Lovely. Let's go with "She didn't read the letter." then.
ocean robin
"Sie hat nicht den Brief gelesen"?
nocturne spruce
Sadly no
sudden panther
Good. Except we have a small word order problem.
ocean robin
Word order?
fair iron
If you emphasise nicht, then it would be correct.
So it's not wrong wrong.
^^
It works as a response to someone.
sudden panther
Your positioning of nicht would just negate the den Brief part, and it kinda calls for a replacement Sie hat nicht den Brief gelesen, sondern die Zeitung, for example. But what we really want is to negate the whole clause, which is why we should push the nicht as far to the end as possible. Before the gelesen, in our case, since the gelesen must come lastt.
nocturne spruce
It's just open to multiple interpretations
cold vessel
Would this order, with emphasis, say like "She didn't read the letter [but she read something else]"?
nocturne spruce
This way it could mean that she read something other than the letter
viscid cape
@cold vessel Yes, you'd expect a "but rather..."
thick charm
Yeah it's "She didn't read the letter" instead of "She didn't read the letter"
nocturne spruce
As casca said though, it's fine as a response
sudden panther
Goodies. And now we should just add the her husband's part.
nocturne spruce
since the context carries the rest of the sentence
ocean robin
Oki dokie, so "sie hat den Brief ihres Mannes nicht gelesen"?
sudden panther
Nice Flops. Do you see a tiny typo in there, however?
ocean robin
No, is there one?
pine ginkgo
are you sure?
ocean robin
Yes.
ocean robin
yes
pine ginkgo
do you wanna bet
viscid cape
😂
ocean robin
Bet what?
thick charm
There's something all languages do
viscid cape
Your horse 🐴
ocean robin
I don't have one
pine ginkgo
your riding club membership
ocean robin
uh i dunno about dat bet
thick charm
It's not a typo as much as it is a slight grammatical mistake if we're looking at the sentence in its entirety.
pine ginkgo
you have to do the daniel challenge
ocean robin
GOD
ocean robin
BUT
pine ginkgo
(a tip, read what chuck is saying)
nocturne spruce
And focus on the word, Tiny mistake
thick charm
Focus on the first half of the sentence
This would be a mistake in German, English, French, Italian and so on.
lost dagger
focus on the first half of the sentence
thick charm
It's a thing most if not all western languages share
cold vessel
You guys are mean 😂
sudden panther
No we're lovely. 😛
opal sequoia
Focus on the first half of the first half of the first half of the sentence.
nocturne spruce
It's a mistake, that wouldn't happen if you were using a phone
lost dagger
flapsy muss pERFEKT WErden
ocean robin
GOD, IT CAN BE A MISTAKE IN FRENCH.
sudden panther
yES sNUKKo
nocturne spruce
With autocorrect
ocean robin
I MUST THINK.
sudden panther
Vienna.
lost dagger
dEnK mAl dRübEr NACh
ocean robin
Huh? A capital?
thick charm
exactly
thick charm
And there's something you can do that kind of sounds like capital
fair iron
But what if a country has three capitals, Chuck? WHAT THEN?
sudden panther
This is the part where she kills us.
ocean robin
LOL
thick charm
And you have to do it in regards to your sentence
fair iron
Looking at you, South Africa. 👀
ocean robin
but there is not adjectives, is it?
sudden panther
Look, Solet just did the same mistake! 😮
ocean robin
WAAH
thick charm
sudden panther
and so did I just now. 😮
pine ginkgo
i do you arrem
lost dagger
whoa Arrem don't make misteak
sudden panther
No pls I'm too young to be done. 😦
ocean robin
where can I put a capital letter, mmmh...
viscid cape
-Luna 2017
ocean robin
LOL
sudden panther
Good question, Flops.
nocturne spruce
Did you figure it out yet?
ocean robin
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN
pine ginkgo
so
lost dagger
I'd just put it in the first spot that's not capitalized.
pine ginkgo
flappsy
thick charm
Where could you capitalise another word
lost dagger
Maybe it'll work
pine ginkgo
where do you put capital letters in german
nocturne spruce
There's only one place where you could capitalise it
cold vessel
sudden panther
Or any other language ever.
ocean robin
in adjectives when they replace a noun?
pine ginkgo
not any language
thick charm
Nope
thick charm
The sentence is fine
lost dagger
I was quoted ❤️
ocean robin
ah nouns then.
pine ginkgo
when you would you capitalize a letter
thick charm
the words are fine
ocean robin
IT'S JUST A LETTER THAT I MUST CHANGE
thick charm
So the big bang is generally accepted as the ________ of the universe
ocean robin
huh
sudden panther
smelliest sitcom
ocean robin
I don't get the point there, Chuck.
thick charm
And they're all true
ocean robin
I should see my sentence again.
thick charm
yeah
ocean robin
LMAO WHAT
sudden panther
Yes please do.
ocean robin
boom.
sudden panther
This sentence has no mistake.
this one does.
thick charm
So what do we do at the start of a sentence?
fair iron
Put our pen to paper?
ocean robin
^
thick charm
Yes and what do we do to the VERY FIRST letter?
sudden panther
Flops I literally just told you the answer.
ocean robin
Capitlising the first letter.
thick charm
YES
thick charm
YOU DID
sudden panther
Yes. 😂
fair iron
Aye.
ocean robin
JESUS CHRIST
pine ginkgo
DID YO UFLAPS?
thick charm
"sie hat den Brief ihres Mannes nicht gelesen"
ocean robin
BECAUSE I AM ON COMPUTER MAYBE
sudden panther
Other than that, your sentence was perfectly fine. Nicely done. ❤
YOU STILL HAVE SHIFT
ocean robin
BUT NOW I FEEL SO DUMB OH MY GOD
nocturne spruce
I told you
nocturne spruce
It's a mistake that your phone wouldn't make
pine ginkgo
but i had fun
thick charm
If we wanna be assholes we could also criticise the lack of a full-stop.
nocturne spruce
But you would
sudden panther
Still Flops, you're actually not messing up your genitives anymore, which is nice.
thick charm
I'm so sorry Flappy
thick charm
but this was just too much fun
pine ginkgo
are you sure?
sudden panther
https://giphy.com/gifs/1BXa2alBjrCXC flops right now
fair iron
Then so are we, Flappy. ^^
sudden panther
So Casca. How about a sentence? 😛
ocean robin
Giving a sentence needs inspiration, Arrem. Let him search. 😛
opal sequoia
Here's one to translate while we wait: "Where is Casca's inspiration?"
ocean robin
wooooo genitive again. Let's see if I have all correct.
sudden panther
vong dem Casca
ocean robin
LOL
Well at least, it's not that complicated. Just put an s to Casca for saying that it is his inspiration.
sudden panther
Less thinking out loud, more writing. Go.
cold vessel
Casca sein Inspiration
sudden panther
Preferrably something with genitive for Flopper.
ocean robin
ANd whoa, is it also "inspiration" in German?
sudden panther
Sogar das dann schreibt sie auf Deutsch.
ocean robin
Eh.
fair iron
Meine Inspiration liegt in eurer Fröhlichkeit.
cold vessel
In spoken language, would you say "Cascas Inspiration" or "die Inspiration von Casca"?
quasi merlin
Are you bullying Fläppers again?
thick charm
Meine Inspiration liegt in mir selbst.
sudden panther
No, we're bringing her genitive bei.
viscid cape
by*
quasi merlin
In spoken language, would you say "Cascas Inspiration" or "die Inspiration von Casca"?
Cascas Inspiration
fair iron
Die Inspiration des Casca ist auch okay. ^^
sudden panther
vom Casca.
ocean robin
Yeah, let's say des because why not.
viscid cape
@cold vessel Now she's going to use 'von' everywhere instead of genitive :v
cold vessel
The dative + von thing is not used with names?
ocean robin
Mikuh, they're not bullying me. If they did I would not laugh so hard like I do now.
ocean robin
wow, new nickname
sudden panther
So, Cassiesause, sentence. When?
ocean robin
Arrem C. When?
fair iron
Flappy 1 - 0 Arrem.
Arrem eagerly awaited Casca's sentence, as he had hoped to task Flappy with its translation.
cold vessel
So is that a no to my question?
ocean robin
Wow, that sentence. i even don't know what "eagerly" means.
viscid cape
@cold vessel I don't know to be honest
fair iron
Zélé, Flappy.
ocean robin
AAAAAH.
viscid cape
@cold vessel Try asking on #questions
ocean robin
God why I love the word "zélé"
"Arrem hat eifrig Cascas Satz gewartet, als er Flappy mit seine Übersetzung zu nehmen gehofft hat." To task was really a wierd translation on dict.cc, because it was just saying "nehmen" but it's not "to task" litteraly, it is?
fair iron
Impressive work, but sadly not correct. Let's go through it together. 😃
What made you choose gewartet?
ocean robin
Well, I thought it was the past participle of "warten" isn't it?
placid heath
warten as in to fix?
ocean robin
Ah, it was await, woops.
holy shit, it was just adding er and boom you have erwarten
but I love that dict.cc says that warten is also correct
fair iron
Warten is both to fix and to wait, but not to await.
pine ginkgo
depending on context
pine ginkgo
no
you don't know the context
dict.cc gives you the translations
but not the meanings
ocean robin
oh yeah, but I thought he was saying "to wait" so warten came immediatly to my mind
Maybe because in French "await" and "wait" are the same word. I don't think that it is because of French, just because I didn't see the word correctly.
pine ginkgo
is fine is fine
ocean robin
Then, where are the other mistakes?
fair iron
To save having to scroll:
"Arrem hat eifrig Cascas Satz gewartet, als er Flappy mit seine Übersetzung zu nehmen gehofft hat."
pine ginkgo
well flappsy
ocean robin
Yeah, about that nehmen.
pine ginkgo
what is the subject
fair iron
First of all, what would you replace gewartet with?
ocean robin
Erwartet?
fair iron
Yep!
fair iron
"Arrem hat eifrig Cascas Satz erwartet, als er Flappy mit seine Übersetzung zu nehmen gehofft hat."
After you, Solet.
ocean robin
Solet is ded.
ocean robin
Arrem, so er?
pine ginkgo
is there?
ocean robin
god, didn't see that mit, we use dative with mit right?
pine ginkgo
how did you write it
ocean robin
yeah, there is
opal sequoia
What do you mean @whole rapids ?
pine ginkgo
if you didn't see it
ocean robin
I thought it was accusative at first
but forgot that mit is a dative preposition
so, it's "seiner Übersetzung"
pine ginkgo
nice!
what was the original sentence again?
Arrem eagerly awaited Casca's sentence, as he had hoped to task Flappy with its translation.
look at the verbs
fair iron
No.
pine ginkgo
wat
ocean robin
wat.
pine ginkgo
what is nehmen in english, flapssy
ocean robin
Yeah, that was my question about "to task" I said it when I posted it.
fair iron
To task <with> -> To instruct.
ocean robin
Nehmen is to take and that stuff, I know.
But the translation on dict.cc was...vague.
fair iron
Charger, Flappy (to task).
ocean robin
But the others are nouns, Solet.
pine ginkgo
no
pine ginkgo
yes
ocean robin
Then tell me what "to task" is plox. Don't tell me you just have to put a prefix on nehmen, please.
sudden panther
You're definitely blind.
sudden panther
lookup task en de
viral thunderBOT
Showing translations for task:
- Aufgabe
- Tätigkeit
- Auftrag
- Arbeit
- Pflicht
- Aufgabenstellung
- Arbeitsschritt
- Schularbeit
- Amt
- aufgabenbezogen
- aufgabenorientiert
- aufgabenabhängig
- aufgabenunabhängig
- aufgabenabhängig
- aufgabenorientiert
- sachbezogen
- mehrere Dinge gleichzeitig tun
- jdn. mit etw. beauftragen
- Pensum
- Erfassungsaufgabe```No you don't need the first one.
ocean robin
Sachbezogen?
ocean robin
Because I am "fluent" in English.
thick charm
German-French also isn't complete
ocean robin
Task, that's all Base.
sudden panther
I should really improve >lookup. Some of those translations are really shitty. 🤔
ocean robin
mayeb I should have written "to task"
opal sequoia
Oh, I see. When you look up a verb you should write it like "to task", yeah.
cold vessel
@sudden panther What does it use?
sudden panther
Just pulls the things straight from dcc. But dcc also searches for things containing the word, thus returning sachbezogen as a result, which has nothing to do with 'to task'.
So I'm thinking about making it display more info. Source and translation.
ocean robin
AH.
opal sequoia
Yeah, that sounds good, Flappy.
ocean robin
Okay, so it's "zu beauftragen" rather than "zu nehmen".
sudden panther
No, not really. I think we're just web scraping.
ocean robin
sudden panther
Noice flaps. Yes, nehmen makes no sense in this context.
sudden panther
What a twist.
fair iron
Truly.
opal sequoia
Anyone wants to give me a sentence? 😏
opal sequoia
Kryptik needs one too. 😏
sudden panther
"My name is Base and I love you all."
fair iron
^
hot cloak
Der kranker Mann ging im Krankenhaus
opal sequoia
Ich heiße Base und ich habe euch alle gerne.
viscid cape
Never heard that
opal sequoia
Der kranker Mann?
sudden panther
Great job.
hot cloak
yeah fix it
hot cloak
I guess
opal sequoia
Der kranke Mann ging ins Krankenhaus, während der gesunde Mann, um gesund zu sein, lernte viel Deutsch.
pine ginkgo
word order base
sudden panther
Oooo.
opal sequoia
It has to be "um gesund zu sein" at the end?
opal sequoia
Der kranke Mann ging ins Krankenhaus, während der gesunde Mann viel Deutsch lernte, um gesund zu sein.
pine ginkgo
no
sudden panther
Noice.
opal sequoia
Perfect on first try. 😏
hot cloak
can I get a sentence too?
opal sequoia
You want English to German? Oder Deutsch nach Englisch?
hot cloak
Vielleicht sollte ich Deutsch nach Englisch mal versuchen
sudden panther
You can fix this.
Es war 1mal ein kleines Mädchen, das imer ein rotes Käppchen trug. Darum hieß es bei allen Leuten nur „Rotkäppchen“. Eines Tages sagte die Mutter zung dem Kind: „Hier isd Kuchen umd 1 Bottle Wein, bringe sie dem kranken Großmutter!
opal sequoia
👌
hot cloak
Es war einmal ein kleines Mädchen, das immer ein rotes Käppchen trug. Darum hieß es bei allen Leuten nur Rotkäppchen. Eines Tages sagte die Mutter zum Kind: Hier ist ein Kuchen und eine Flasche mit Wein, bring sie der kranken Großmutter!
sudden panther
Almost there! 👍
- Flasche Wein is perfectly okay, you don't need the mit here.
- What's the gender of the grandma, again? 😄
hot cloak
Danke!
sudden panther
In other news, I find it extremely amusing to run literature through vong converter.
opal sequoia
Wow, good work.
viscid cape
Shouldn't it be 'Hier sind ein Kuchen und eine Flasche mit Wein...?
placid heath
There's something like a vong-converter? Die Welt ist schlecht.
viscid cape
Does vong mean anything 😄
sudden panther
placid heath
._.
Kryptik, vong is the word you'd use to signalize that you want to be lynched
Regarding your question: Both ist and sind sound fine in that sentence for my ears. I'd opt for sind however
viscid cape
Thank you 😄
whole rapids
@opal sequoia I meant the link to Flap's story
pine ginkgo
not done
whole rapids
ah okay, that explains why I couldn't see it
ocean robin
Woooo I am back.
viscid cape
Welcome back, little baguette.
fair iron
What current structure are we up to?
viscid cape
I don't remember