#resources
grand maple
this site and her youtube vids are a godsent. a shame i found it a day before my exam lol
her youtube channel
@coarse plover it would be good to include this in your resource list . she has tips for exam prep from A1 to B2
coarse plover
That looks great, thanks for sharing @grand maple I hope I don't forget to add it ^^
vivid moss
Are there any lecture recordings available where a teacher is teaching a class? Like the ones MIT and Stanford upload.
grand maple
@vivid moss teaching german, i doubt u will find anything like that.
sand marten
(And frankly, you don't need them)
gray basalt
https://www.deutschplus.net/pages/Korrelat
Weiß nicht, ob es schon in diesem Chat gibt, aber hier ist eine gute Seite für Korrelat.
merry isle
HLI das heißt Korrelat, danke 😉
boreal socket
HLI = heute lernte ich? lol
sand marten
HHIG > HLI
merry isle
Imperfekt > Perfekt
sand marten
Nicht im Deutschen
merry isle
deine Mudda heißt Präteritum
fickle tartan
nein
south heart
Präteritum ist was für abgehobene Akademiker
Mitvergangenheit ist der wahre Begriff des Volkes
errant wyvern
@south heart Nur in Österreich, gelle? :p
stone thicket
what resource link could i use best to get a nice overview of how to form plurals in german?
if possible i'd like it best if its explained per gender, and not per ending
misty valve
@stone thicket Generally in German you learn the plural form with the noun, similarly to how you learn the gender with the noun.
Rather than learning rules for forming plurals.
stone thicket
well, its much easier to have general rules so that i can at least guess the plural of a word when im not 100% sure of it
misty valve
If you want an overview of plurals, there is one in Hammer's.
stone thicket
alright
misty valve
There's also a list of basic rules on this website: http://germanplurals.com/
stone thicket
oh, but id like to have elaborate rules
im dutch and ive had 5 years of german but i need to refresh a lot
misty valve
Yes, then you should read Hammer's.
stone thicket
thats in the resources list i assume
misty valve
Yes.
stone thicket
oh wow that book is big, thats nice
thanks
it seems like that book has 4 versions in 1
so its kinda repeating itsself
misty valve
What do you mean?
stone thicket
i think the book has chapter 1 two times
but maybe its due to that the dokument is so big that i cant scroll properly
yea they really have it twice, at least the begining of chapter 1
thats why i got confused
misty valve
Oh, sure, a few pages are repeated. But you can just skip to the plurals section.
carmine canopy
We added some German podcasts to the resources list. If you don't see your favorite podcast there, feel free to share it with us.
grave drift
Can someone suggest me some german gaming youtubers?
grim fox
Steinwallen
grave drift
Preferably with subtitles, the yt generated ones are weird
grim fox
no luck then sorry
steinwallen does not seem to have subtitles
grave drift
That's alright, thanks anyway :)
sand marten
Gronkh? Dunno if he has subs though
south heart
eyyyyy good to see fellow Steinwallen fans
misty valve
Gronkh has some subtitles, it depends on the video/series.
calm perch
I am searching for some materials helping me improve my deutsch, especially the german used in offices and / or german used in day-by-day helpdesk and IT support offered to other users, containing specific domain words related to computers, network, software etc.
Any sugestion / link / document / audio / video with subtitles is appreciated.
Thanks.
Ich suche nach Materialien, die mir dabei helfen, mein Deutsch zu verbessern, insbesondere das in Büros verwendete Deutsch und / oder Deutsch, das im täglichen Helpdesk und IT-Support für andere Benutzer verwendet wird und bestimmte Domänenwörter enthält, die sich auf Computer, Netzwerk, Software usw. beziehen .
Jeder Vorschlag / Link / Dokument / Audio / Video mit Untertiteln wird geschätzt.
Vielen Dank
warped oyster
Ich würde vorschlagen, dass du die Schlüsselwörter auf Youtube und Google eingibst und suchst. Zb. tippe "Büro deutsch" oder "IT support Gespräche" ein. Etwas in der Art. Du entdeckst mehr in dieser Weise als hier
grand maple
Hallo Leute, any recommendations for B2 learning materials? Or any materials with which you had a good experience?
pure bolt
for grammar I'm using DaF Grammatik aktiv and I love it
its so extensive, lots of wonderful exercises to do as well
for levels b2-c1
has a fat 50 pages of solutions so you can imagine how much work they set for you
grand maple
Sounds amazing... I will check it out.
pure bolt
grand maple
pro tip: when searching for a specific resource on google, enter "<name of resource>vk"....... "vk" is russian facebook and seem to be really helpful for free stuff.
one can find all these books from Schritt, Menschen, Aspekte, usw.
grand maple
Such a well thought out app. Simply amazing, i think everyone should give this one a try.
cosmic charm
ich möchte ein paar Novellen hinzufügen, wenn ich die Erlaubnis von der Mod-Team bekommen
rain lion
@carmine canopy
modern crypt
@carmine canopy
austere ice
Hallo, ich bin neu hier, kennt hier jemand irgendwelche deutschen fernsehshows mit untertiteln, Danke.
grand maple
"Jojo sucht glück. " And try checking out "pfeffer corner" , "easy german"
And basically the whole channel of Dw deutsch lernen
@austere ice
austere ice
@grand maple Danke schön
grand maple
Gern geschehen
Oh and how can i forget "Nicos Weg" @austere ice .... I hope the pings arent disturbing, i randomly rememberd it.
austere ice
I already saw nicos weg it's great , i was hoping to find tv shows like dark, beat,and nsu German history
Any tv show that actually has subtitles
carmine canopy
Die Scham zu existieren: eine extreme Form der Scham
proposed lecture for Deutsch kanal
😃
fickle echo
Tuk , NICE
main violet
Dark is a pretty nice show imo
wicked karma
https://www.twitch.tv/granstruggler this guy streams everyday.. i just listen and repeat
wise viper
broggoli
eternal trench
Does anybody have a kind of reference for root words and their variations? For example, the word "Kommen" and then there's "Ankommen", "Bekommen", etc.
carmine canopy
Wiktionary
carmine canopy
Hello
carmine canopy
quasi cypress
Das hat mir wirklich geholfen die starke (unregelmäßige) Verben endlich zu lernen
Lernen Sie Deutsch mit Marco 2: Starke Verben https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zRKqsknh5w
mighty light
Want passages with some great vocabulary explained IN GERMAN? There's this app called 'Wortschatz C1' by telc. Great for finding new vocab and practising your reading. They even have quiz versions
wicked karma
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NEQkGFZEQU 24 hour teacher
grand maple
Beelinguapp: Learn Languages with Audiobooks, try it!
@thebeelinguapp
https://n9cjb.app.goo.gl/bjYm
Viele wissen vielleicht diese App bereits, trotzdem ist es eine ziemliche gute App.
wicked karma
https://www.thoughtco.com/im-kaufhaus-department-store-4070869 für Anfänger .. Everything free except the audio. Alles kostenlos außer dem Audio
fresh sand
Does anyone know of a good anki deck for A1
sour crow
Hier haben wir die B1 Videos auch
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLs7zUO7VPyJ5razSfhOUVbTv9q6SAuPx-
grand maple
Try switching to german subtitles on youtube, they are pretty accurate.
And also kurzgesagt youtube channel obv
boreal socket
Well if a human has translated them it is almost 100% accurate
grand maple
Yah i think since he is so popular people volunteer to transcribe subs.
sand marten
dull falcon
Does anyone know if the podcast “Coffee Break German” is good for learning?
sand marten
i remember it being a pleasant experience, although it was years ago so i can't remember any detail
it's safe to say that, like basically everything else, it's not enough by itself to learn the language comprehensively
as a beginner i'd use it and annotate every useful concept, then research it and practise it before going forward
sour crow
I agree with Serki here. I haven't watched them a whole bunch, but of what I did I can say that it's a good podcast but they do go pretty slowly. It's good if you're really just starting but past that you'll probably feel held back by how slow it is.
grand maple
@eternal trench ........ i know many people have used this and i dont think anyone has given this one a bad review.
eternal trench
Thank you 😃
elder sentinel
It's great and you definitely get out what you put into the site
I highly recommend also reading a book and speaking with other people
eternal trench
Is there alternative sites to practice adjektiv deklination? I already tried out the other more Google-ready sites
misty valve
Well, you can always just write sentences and post them in #questions #beginner-german or #writing for corrections. @eternal trench
eternal trench
Alright, I'll try doing that 😃
amber rain
carmine canopy
This is a tutorial channel mostly explaining all kinds of German grammar. Some other topics like pronunciation are also there. https://www.youtube.com/user/verbalaesthet/videos
My latest video on articles: https://youtu.be/f3UnMjHnIJo
tacit swallow
Hey fellas, has anyone had any luck learning from https://www.allemandfacile.com ?
livid cradle
I have finally found a video that explains what I have been sorta gathering from my recent endeavours with language learning.
sand marten
i've seen this shared a lot. I wonder if people are really taking it to heart after watching and agreeing with it, or just forget it in a couple minutes and go back to duolingo or a grammar book
livid cradle
I would personally want to use duolingo and another app I have for learning just because I am pretty busy and dont have much time to just consume info but other than those times for like 30 minutes a day I am definitely watching YouTube videos with German and songs and stuff like that.
And have now been paying more attention to sentence structure too from consuming more content.
sand marten
if they were readily available (and maybe they are) it would be more productive to use what little time we have to consume useful media. Like short segments of video: 15 or even just 5 minutes spent attentively watching a short video in German would be better spent than the same, or even twice as much, time spent using something like duolingo, whose only purpose is to gamify languages to make you think of and visualize progress, when in fact the only thing you're really progressing in is their own little game
I can honestly say that my German has improved more since after I stopped using duolingo, than while i was using it
misty valve
I agree 100% that if you have limited time, it's better to use media or proper study than to use an app like Duolingo. Vocab app is fine if you want to learn vocab, but Duolingo is extremely inefficient.
If you split your time up into vocab, media and grammar (when needed), it will be the most efficient.
And more fun, honestly.
sand marten
going off my prior knowledge and experience plus what this video says (taking it at face value, although it cites various reputable sources), what I would do as a plan would be
- focussed video-watching every day, no matter what (at least 5 minutes a day, max about 1 hour)
- focussed grammar studying and revising (= exercises and following a textbook) (20 to 45 minutes at least once a week, preferably thrice a week or once every two days, depending on available time)
- relaxed exercise (= writing stuff down, like a journal, but without caring much to be correct. Also valid: talking to yourself, listening to audio passively, and shadowing media as you listen to it) (at least once a day)
- total rest (= no activity related to the language at all) (once a week)
I could do more research and codify this more precisely but right now I have no reason to
livid cradle
Working on your weaknesses and having fun is mostly all that is neccessary 😃
sand marten
you're right on the having fun bit, but the rest is too vague to be effective. I'm certanly not as much of an organised learner as it could appear but the method is what makes the difference between someone being complimented by natives after a couple years of learning and someone who's been living in Germany for more than twenty years and still being unable to properly express thoughts more complex than groceries or directions
livid cradle
Personally I like duolingo just because i dont have regular freetime in the evenings during the week but i do have a nice long 45 minute bus ride. So I read language stuff then and do duolingo plus a vocab app for a small portion of that time.
Wait a second, I just realised something, what you said about the schedule thing there sounds an awful lot like what I'm already doing 🤔
misty valve
I don't think "total rest" is good for language learning. I mean, a day of not doing anything is not harmful, but I wouldn't schedule it.
Total rest should rather be the relaxed exercise.
You're welcome to learn however you like but, as explained, "I don't have regular free time" is not a justification for using Duolingo over other activities.
Duolingo is still less efficient and a bit of a waste of time for tight schedules.
Duolingo is the kind of thing you would put in addition to your other routine. Like you have your 30-60 minutes of normal study/practice, then if you have extra time, you do Duolingo.
livid cradle
I'm not saying doing it exclusively -.-
I'm not saying duolingo is the thing that will get you 100% of the way to being fluent if that is what you both think I mean.
misty valve
No, I simply said it is very inefficient thus not a good choice if you only have limited time.
Since if you have only a small amount of time, you would naturally want something which is efficient.
Like maybe you only spend 5 minutes on Duolingo, but that 5 minutes could be used on speaking to people or writing your own sentences. Making that change alone would speed up your learning a huge amount, despite it only being 5 minutes.
sand marten
I don't think "total rest" is good for language learning. I mean, a day of not doing anything is not harmful, but I wouldn't schedule it.
I mentioned it specifically because I find it really really hard to not do anything for a day and just relax, and it does wear on me a lot. I know what it means to be constantly active no matter what, even when we know we should rest, so having it in one's schedule does have value imo.
getting proper rest is necessary for learning, and if you wouldn't otherwise get it, considering it an integral part of the method helps in forcing yourself to do so
misty valve
Getting rest is not the same as scheduling a day of totally no access to the target language. Cause you specifically said "no activity related to the language at all", and set it apart from passive learning which was explicitly mentioned in another point. But I can't see how forcing yourself to avoid contact with the language is in any way beneficial. @sand marten
If you meant no intentional practice, that's different though.
sand marten
oh i didn't mean to actively avoid contact with the language, just to not actively seek it
misty valve
Even then, I don't think, for example, having a conversation here in Discord with someone speaking German would be detrimental at all.
sand marten
as in, those passive activities listed should also not be done, but if you're reading a book, watching a series or videos or listening to music or podcasts in the target language and it's relaxing for you (rather than counting as "studying") then of course it's allowed
yeah i didn't touch on conversations but those are allowed and even encouraged at all times :P Even if it gets tiresome, I perceive it as a different kind of tiredness than the one from overstudying/obsessing over the language
misty valve
Okay, so you are actually counting "relaxed exercise" and "total rest" as the same thing?
hushed silo
I think taking a break occasionally is important in order not to burn out. A break should be enjoyable, but it doesn’t have to be entirely avoiding it
e.g. when I take a break from studying math, I sometimes end up reading a math book or watching a lecture anyway, though usually something I am simply interested in, rather than something I have to do
similarly, on a break day you could watch german TV shows instead of doing vocab drills and grammar exercises
I do personally think that 6 days per week of consistent learning is perfectly sufficient to make progress
i've seen this shared a lot. I wonder if people are really taking it to heart after watching and agreeing with it, or just forget it in a couple minutes and go back to duolingo or a grammar book
I tried to implement it into my japanese learning when I was still doing that. I constantly felt like I was not yet “ready” to do it, it felt kinda bad
sand marten
@misty valve not quite. Relaxed exercise is still sought out intentively, total rest is the definition of not seeking out anything intentively
hushed silo
I do feel like you should phase in mroe and more input and less and less exercises & vocab drills, but I also don’t think it’s productive right from the get go
misty valve
Yes, but I think learning maths and learning language is different anyway. And the same for many other non-language things.
hushed silo
with “productive” here I don’t mean from a strict learning speed standpoint, btw, but more like… it doesn’t feel like you’re doing anything
which feels bad
and discouraging
misty valve
I personally don't really see rest days for learning a language to be a thing. A rest day for me would just be a day were I don't worry about how much I learn, but still interact with the language and learn a lot anyway. Just without any concern about if it works or how much it is.
And I think rest days for languages shouldn't be scheduled. Every day that you don't feel like studying can be a rest day. Cause that is how you prevent yourself from burning out and giving up completely.
hushed silo
yea, I think that is perfeclty fine and even to be encouraged. But I do think working only 6 days a week is sufficient to make progress; but then again if you truly want to learn the language, exposing yourself to it shouldn’t feel like work
misty valve
True.
sand marten
And I think rest days for languages shouldn't be scheduled.
i hoped that what i said before made clear that a "when needed" was implied
Every day that you don't feel like studying can be a rest day. Cause that is how you prevent yourself from burning out and giving up completely.
whoops, forgot to write. Gimme a moment
on that second part: from the way you speak it doesn't seem like it's an issue for you, but for me, if i give myself licence to not studying just because i don't feel like it, i end up not doing it for a week, or even more
in fact, this has been going on for about two weeks now with my learning of chinese, with the back of my mind citing excuses like "there's irl stuff to take care of" and "there's that one thing i don't understand and i don't want to have to face it again" or "i'll start tomorrow"
misty valve
But in that time are you doing passive study?
Are you talking to people every day, listening to videos, reading, etc?
Cause I'm not talking about taking days off. I'm talking about how every day you don't do active study, you should do passive study, but if you do that every day for a while because you don't feel motivated, that's okay.
It's better than taking a day without any study. It's better than stopping completely. It helps you stay in touch with your current skills.
If you notice yourself slipping and getting worse, then you do have to push yourself more. But if you are busy/sick/whatever and just need time, you can maintain without progress.
And passive study for me even includes doing old exercises you already know, or stuff you're beyond skill-wise.
sand marten
but if you do that every day for a while because you don't feel motivated, that's okay.
see, that i disagree with. Passive study is sort of a baseline to be able to say you're learning something. If there's never an active session, you're hardly progressing though
misty valve
Exactly. You're not progressing. That's exactly what I'm saying.
Because many, many people get hit with a wall of not having the time or energy or motivation to study. And it's usually temporary. They're burnt out or just have other commitments.
Forcing themselves to study leads to giving up. It might sound weird, but that's what happens.
Letting yourself have the freedom to walk the middle ground for a while is the best way to prevent that.
Long term, you progress more that way.
sand marten
hmm in my personal experience I understand what you're saying and I agree that the danger is there, but for me it has at most led to a short period of downtime, rather than a permanent stop. What leads to a permanent stop is lack of motivation, which is not necessarily caused by overstudying (which, to be clear, is still not something I advocate for)
it's hard for me to walk any kind of middle ground, to be honest xD
misty valve
I'm also not talking about a "permanent" stop. I'm talking about not studying for weeks or months and then being hugely set back and having to restudy and all that other stuff.
If you just let yourself have some days of lighter study, it's way better than going through that and never getting past A2 because you always have to keep starting over.
And anyone who genuinely wants to learn the language isn't going to waste their time forever. They can trust their judgements on what days they can't be bothered to study, generally. Obviously it doesn't apply to people who are being forced to learn a language, but those people are basically screwed anyway.
sand marten
one day of rest a week would never lead to "not studying for weeks or months and then being hugely set back", so I'm a bit lost here 🤔
misty valve
True, but we weren't talking about that at all, so it's not relevant.
sand marten
weren't we? It all started from my suggestion of scheduling one day of rest
misty valve
I'll summarize what this current conversation was:
Me: People should give themselves as many days of passive study as they feel is necessary.
You: I disagree because this leads to lack of progress.
Me: Yes, but lack of progress for the sake of maintenance is better than stopping for weeks/months.
sand marten
ok
i don't think forcing some active learning would lead to stopping for weeks/months
not in the measures described by my scheme above, at least, which was tuned to prevent exactly that, while guaranteeing activity
misty valve
Obviously not. But you're only thinking short term when you say that. If you're having a day where you really just can't be bothered, or maybe even a week or a month (like maybe you have exams or something else like that), that could be impossible, especially when you're thinking of the concept of long term study which is necessary for languages. Schedules can't all be consistent and reliable. Eventually you get tired.
And forcing yourself to have a certain balance of passive/active study also doesn't allow for times when you're really motivated.
My point about passive learning is that your minimum of activity should not be a day off. It should be passive study. If you really can't do active study, you can still force yourself to do passive study.
Anyone can force themselves to do passive study pretty much at all times, but that's not the case for active study.
So if you reach a point where you might stop studying and take a week off, replace that with passive study.
sand marten
right you are, but if you recall, my scheme above included options for the time to spend, only mandating a minimum a week (there's a minimum a day too, but that's for an activity that can be as short as 5 minutes)
but yes, if you reach a point where you might stop studying, do replace it with passive study instead, by all means
misty valve
So that's why I think there's not really such a thing as a day off with learning a language.
sacred jewel
What do you guys mean by passive study?
misty valve
Basically things like watching videos, talking in Discord, reading a book, whatever stuff like that.
Things which are fun activities and not, for example, studying grammar, doing worksheets, or translating.
I mean those things are fun too.
But you get what I mean.
But of course you have to balance it with what your German level is. For a beginner, it might just be writing "Ich mag Katzen". For a level C, it might be reading a whole novel.
sand marten
on that note, which touches with what Sascha said about immersion not working well for beginners, I think advanced learners might have very little to go with when it comes to active learning
personally i don't feel there's anything i can do beside some exercises on very complex grammar almost solely for the sake of it. I feel reading a novel would be more beneficial to me than anything
whereas for a beginner that would be almost useless simply because they'd be bashing their heads against too much stuff they don't know at once for anything to make their way to knowledge
sacred jewel
Yeah reading a novel could be very frustrating tho :(
misty valve
Sure, absolutely. Your methods of learning are always going to change over time/progress.
sand marten
so based on this I'd say that whatever the method, it has to change over time to accommodate for current proficiency
my method above for example would phase out active learning in favour of larger amounts of passive one
realistically, maintaining is almost all you have to do once you reach a certain point, by which your progress can be measured in the same scale as that a native speaker sees for their own language
i don't actively study english anymore for example; I look up words daily to make sure they mean what i want them to mean or to know more abotu an aspect of them, but i do the same in Italian and the quantity of look-ups is very similar. I feel myself reaching that point in German too, although I'm still quite a bit behind
for which I blame german literature not being as interesting as english one to me >:(
thin rover
@sand marten for more interesting vocabulary maybe try some provinicial (read: bavarian) whodunnits by Jörg Maurer or Rita Falk 😛
sand marten
it's not about interesting vocabulary but rather subject matter and pure enjoyment of reading
while reading oscar wilde i had mental orgasms almost continuously. That has yet to happen with german
i've read a lot in english and i've always found it enjoyable, but even though there's at least a bunch of english writers i always enjoy reading, and even though the genre is quite restricted (historical fiction), even looking within the same genre i wasn't able to find anything i enjoy reading in german yet
carmine canopy
Read oscar wilde in german
sand marten
i would read the german oscar wilde if germany had ever had one
carmine canopy
Hey, guys! If you're a fellow artist and/or simply want to expand your vocabulary, here's a Quizlet I made: https://quizlet.com/384544879/vokabeln-kunstzeug-flash-cards/?x=1jqU&i=1l0ip5
Fellow natives and fluents, let me know if I made any mistakes. 😄
carmine canopy
Oh, I've used Drops before.
But personally, I don't prefer to use it.
Quizlet is better IMO.
sweet sluice
iron vale
https://www.pons.de/daten/pdf/Praxis-Grammatik/04_Verben_mit_Dativ-_und_Akkusativobjekt.pdf
Verbs with Dativ and Akkusativ
flint pivot
What do you recommend for a translator?
sand marten
deepl
flint pivot
Ok
river island
Hallo! I'm looking for a kind of dictionary where a picture is shown and above the picture it will be the Word both in English and German , something more visual rather than just plain text , Danke! 😃
sand marten
dict.cc has pictures for most common entries
(though they're small compared to the rest of the interface)
(I wish they'd remake the interface altogether tbh. I'd do it for them if they paid me a lil)
carmine canopy
any good anki decks for a total beginner?
i would start with some vocabulary and do some grammar stuff in a book
wicked karma
https://youglish.com/german Now you can practice pronunciation in context by searching certain youtube channels. the german version just got released today!
pallid elbow
does anyone have a book recommendation in german for beginners?
carmine canopy
I'm pretty sure there are some books online you can purchase
paper sonnet
Anyone willing to help me?
carmine canopy
misty valve
@pallid elbow https://www.thegermanproject.com/stories
pallid elbow
danke ! ♡
fading prawn
Can someone ping me with common German SMS / text slang with translations?
carmine canopy
^don't use these pinned messages as reference. They're all memes
fading prawn
where do i find some then @carmine canopy
carmine canopy
no idea my dude. As a rule of thumb, it's best to ask in one channel and not multiple as it makes your question harder to answer
a quick google search gave me this: https://www.smszeichen.ch/sms/bedeutung-der-sms-abkuerzung/die-haeufigsten-abkuerzungen/
naive violet
Tbh rif is a meme as well
carmine canopy
:^)
grand maple
whats rif?
carmine canopy
Ruhe in Frieden
fickle tartan
they are all memes except for mMn ig
carmine canopy
P much
bitter plover
There’s a resource I can’t remember the title but to a web series where a man ends up in a ground hog day situation I think after getting struck by lightening and the only way he can fix it is by learning german
sand marten
lmao
bitter plover
Thanks
random star
Hi, can anybody recommend a book around A2-B1 level? something easy enough so I can read without constantly going to the dictionary
valid pebble
I can't because I don't know any workbook in english
sand marten
I think they mean books to read, not grammar books
elder skiff
Indeed
That's kind of a low level so it is difficult
I recommend honestly just reading Wikipedia articles on topics you're familiar with
Free and helpful
grand maple
@random star beelingua app, sort with.beginner
valid pebble
Oh
This type of books
Well.... I would say, try to search for "die Schlümpfe"?
Or any type of comic book easy to understand, yet enjoyable to read even for an adult
sand marten
You could also try web comics such as das leben ist kein ponyhof
Comics give you bite-sized paragraphs so they're lighter to read. Then you can move on to books. Some people recommend starting with children books but they're so boring that I don't think they're very effective, and also they often include odd vocabulary that children then abandon, and you don't want to acquire that
midnight berry
Hallo? Anyone knows where I can find a table of irregular verbs conjugations in Präsens? Preferably, the most full table so I could just make a cards set and remember them all.
sand marten
note that strong verbs =/= irregular verbs
i can't think of any actually irregular verbs right now aside from sein
soft zenith
carmine canopy
Babbel in my opinion is decent
Because it has real people saying the vocabulary instead of near to be bots who say the phrases on Duolingo
But the bad side is that you have to pay to get the full curriculum
grand maple
any one who uses dict.cc and has multiple lists saved...... how to switch the list in which new vocabulary gets saved? pls help
talking abt the desktop website btw.
quasi cypress
@soft zenith ich kann Michael Thomas und pimsler empfehlen
Aber nur für die Anfänger
quasi cypress
Any advice, where to find common expressions? Not like a phrasebook for tourists, rather something to use in everyday speech
like "Meine Meinung nach" and other commonly used phrases that can't be simply translated from English
sand marten
I haven't checked but it's likely wiktionary has categories for this stuff. The easiest way to check would be to look for one common expression and see what categories it belongs to, then browse from there
you can check on the german wiktionary too, just in case the english one lacks terms (which in my experience is unlikely)
quasi cypress
I had something like Redemittel in books, but now I have to wait for new course 😦
I'll check wiki now
grand maple
Btw tell how wiki was @quasi cypress
quasi cypress
It wasn't that easy to find useful (for me personally) expressions.
I was looking for something rather like that ⬇️ to enrich my spoken German
Screenshot (Apr 14, 2019 22:33:04)
sand marten
dict.cc has many of those, but i'm not sure there's a good way to look for them to browse
it's a good dict but boy does their frontend suck
quasi cypress
Oh yes, I know and use it. But it looks like from 2000
sand marten
it's ugly, yes.
but that's hardly of any importance, or do you only want to learn german from sources that look good?
quasi cypress
Natürlich nicht. Die Persönlichkeit ist wichtiger als Aussehens sogar beim Wörterbuch
misty valve
What do you mean if one doesn't know what to look for?
Can't you just put every weird phrase into dict.cc when you're not sure what it means?
grand maple
I meant as in i know fixed phrases and idioms exist out there.... But the only way i come across them is when reading stories and inserting the phrases i find into dict.cc...... its not like a website where one can simply scroll through a long list of sayings
And yah i do exactly what u said.... I insert the phrase that i find into dict.cc and then save it on a list
misty valve
Ah, you mean you want to find a way to learn new idioms?
I don't know a way but consider this: do you really need to know an idiom if you never hear it in the first place?
quasi cypress
I was looking for common phrases at the first place
Like in English IMO aber auf Deutsch sagt man meine Meinung nach usw
carmine canopy
If you want idioms in German but some dumb idioms then get far enough into Duolingo and you can buy idioms as an extra skill
grand maple
Yah not idioms.... But those kind of words which Gi mentioned
Idk what they r called.... "Fixed phrases" i guess
misty valve
Hmmm. I think it's still the same idea though. You learn the ones you come across. Test them out, experiment, look stuff up.
Ones you've never heard or never used, you probably don't have much use for anyway.
grand maple
Yah thats also true tbh.... But might be useful for exam preparations n stuff
sand marten
you have to read a lot to come across new stuff. No surprise there :P
and no shortcut either. Even if you look for lists on the internet they'll hardly be useful by themselves
wicked karma
guys seriously https://youglish.com/german
fickle tartan
or just learn ipa and know exactly how to pronounce everything
grand maple
did u learn Ipa to help with ur english?
or rather used audios? i think the latter is more convenient
hushed silo
you know, sebi, ipa isn’t everything
it doesn’t teach you shit about intonation, and it’s inaccurate at best because no one ever does precise transcription
sand marten
i dunno about that, it's been very fucking useful to me for everything i ever learned
sand marten
profanity was necessary to express how useful it has been
fickle tartan
i learned english through youtube because i didnt know ipa :(
but when i learned it i instantly got better at pronunciation
wicked karma
i use youglish/audio to learn how the words flow together.. its just a bit different than individual words in a vaccuum..
sly tendon
storm glacier
are there any resource like this for B2?
grand maple
nah not that i know of
sand marten
realistically for B2 all you need is to peruse regular media intended for natives
such as books and films
there is no "ok now i'm ready" moment for those
quasi cypress
Auf der gleichen Seite gibt es Langsam gesprochen Nachrichten, aber persönlich mag ich die nicht
Die sind auf B2 oder C1
quasi cypress
Second it
storm glacier
danke
carmine canopy
grand maple
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCeWYsa2ynPc0VNwqL-vF2wQ
intresting channel with closed captions
feels good when channels have subtitles
wicked karma
@carmine canopy good to get specialty words.. i switched my Lichess to Deutsch but a video even nicer
restive spoke
If you want to test your German: https://www.goethe.de/de/spr/kup/tsd.html
pure bolt
@carmine canopy sorry but we don't really regard any resources in german to automatically be a good resource. A fortnite video in german does not in particular mean that it will help others learn, especially in comparison to other videos in the same format.
misty parrot
Do you guys have any resources explaining gender in German?
misty parrot
Danke
haughty crater
Is there a website I can watch cartoon dubbed in german
haughty crater
Danke schön
grand maple
never seen it...but knew about it.... has subtitles and the opening is catchy af
i think i might end up watching it too
ik its not exactly a cartoon...but works i guess
haughty crater
I just need something in german to listen to
grand maple
wait sorry the rest of the series doesnt have subs
try the afd , zfd websites and their kid/cartoon sections
i think they might have subs
ohkk if subs isnt a requirement then this is okay i guess.
sand marten
lol
grand maple
too late, he is already watching the cartoons on their website.
sand marten
what have you done
fickle tartan
lol
storm glacier
anyone have experience with the FSI courses?
i did part of the french one a while back so please @ me if you've ever (successfully) used it lol
misty parrot
Anyone else here listen to the Slow German podcast?
I found it on the internet and I definitely recommend it.
dire rapids
Hello i have my b1 exam next month in goethe institut, i'd like to have a nice source to train in which has everything including every type of exercice that are kinda like in the exam or harder please.
Or if you guys could suggess a nice training program too, i have 8 hours free per day please
dire rapids
Ist es wie in der b1 prüfung bei geothe ?
grand maple
yepp
ditto
@dire rapids
and btw the answers are at the back of the book will make you think you are shitty lol..... but thats jus how the book is.
grand maple
yah i think so. you can only attempt writing, listening and reading at home...... so approx 3 hrs.
sand marten
...why would it not? :P
eager cape
Have never seen it before tbh 😂
sand marten
Syllabation can be useful for example to determine where to break up a word if you're justifying the text layout
And also for poetry or lexical analysis
eager cape
Omg that's so useful
kind walrus
misty parrot
Hey, what are some of the better places to go for a basic rundown on German grammar.
I'm looking ahead at what Duolingo has, and it's pretty overwhelming, so I figured I might start working on the grammar now.
grand maple
but what part of grammar?
misty valve
@misty parrot Googling individual topics is good. You can read pages just about one topic and practice it.
You can also use >ex beginner to get a list of beginner topics to learn.
Basic German from the resource list is fine for going through all beginner grammar.
But if your problem is that the grammar is "overwhelming" specifically, then you should probably not be looking for a basic rundown of all German grammar. You need to learn one thing at a time instead.
That's my advice anyway.
misty parrot
Thank you, @misty valve!
I'm just concerned that Duolingo won't be sufficient at all for grammar.
misty valve
It definitely won't be sufficient.
grand maple
Duolingo bird is only good at making threats :\
misty parrot
Yeah
flint pivot
And showing up at your front door when you haven‘t done your lesson.
I quit on duolingo after losing my half year streak and I now use German.net because it helps with memorizing bulk vocab.
carmine canopy
Here's a video on German pronunciation. I'm comparing the sounds that students often struggle with. https://youtu.be/Oc6ZAbYcnO8
misty blade
faq
misty parrot
@carmine canopy, thanks for your video.
willow delta
If a link is broken, who do I talk to?
Wann ein Verbindung ist kaputt, mit wer spreche ich?
cyan cradle
which link ?
willow delta
"Schritte grammar overview (A1 / A2 / B1)"
willow delta
danke schön
viscid quartz
https://www.colanguage.com/german-grammar
Free german grammar with some interactive exercises (ads are slightly annoying)
grand maple
for the grammer book i am using right now..... after i am done with the concept i get a little hazy about it after a week or two.......... are there any books out there that keep this in mind and have designed the book in such a way that you end up revising the earlier things too as the book progresses?
sand marten
Coursebooks generally introduce concepts and then keep using them from that point on. Excuse the question but are you sure you're not studying from a reference book?
grand maple
nah pretty sure its a grammar book
wait a min i will send a pic
reference books dont have exercises right?
this one does
grand maple
@sand marten btw what book did you use?
sand marten
eh i used a combination of stuff, both books and websites, but the one i started out with was in italian
i do remember having a book from the same authors of this one you've shown but i can't remember its contents and i don't have it on hand
grand maple
yah their explanations and stuff is spot on. exercises are good too. and when some grammar concept comes up which was mentioned before they link the page numbers and stuff...... jus wish they would involve more stuff from the past chapters too.
lone barn
I love Denis Schecks reviews of the german Spiegel bestseller lists.
https://www.daserste.de/information/wissen-kultur/druckfrisch/videos/belletristik-video-114.html
cyan cradle
@sleek holly you meme
sleek holly
smh fine
real girder
cosmic charm
just curious, does anyone have any good resources for german in the business setting?
quasi cypress
Cheat sheets Adjective declension and more https://docs.google.com/document/d/1TUBtdwOSq3uh5iyXVFcb1vPLpyzg22kDEZEuorRhtwc/edit
All credits for leonardearl and shellerik on reddit
viscid quartz
This is an excellent Podcast for anyone around B2/C1:
http://aufdeutschgesagt.libsyn.com/
fleet cipher
Which online dictionary would be best for translating from German into English?
lapis stream
fleet cipher
Thanks~ 😄
sand marten
or Leo if you need more grammatical details like declension tables. and Wiktionary which has fewer entries but more info, like etymology
misty valve
Oh yeah, wiktionary is really cool cause it has a bunch of really detailed and useful notes on certain entries.
Definitely a good place to check if you're stuck on something like word usage, just in case.
stone thicket
does anyone know a good german radio station where they talk a lot and have discussiona and stuff, prefereable a national station?
to practise?
fickle tartan
deutschlandfunk
stone thicket
vielen Dank!
stone thicket
i like it a lot
thin rover
In austria it would be FM4... but despite being a public ORF station, its mostly in english 
naive violet
glaub nicht
quasi cypress
Oder du kannst Podcasts hören
grand maple
why did you send this lmao. looks scary
sacred jewel
Öeh wie war’s?
fickle tartan
einfach
grand maple
yah i didnt mean that the link has a virus or somethin.... i meant the content was
fickle tartan
ok, was just making sure. i guess its a nice read for more advanced learners
grand maple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keEKlr2dG-I
good channel, with subtitiles and clearly spoken Hochdeutsch👌🏻
restive orbit
@north kestrel
north kestrel
Danke, but I want to know what you would recommend
restive orbit
im not very proficient ask someone better than me 😦
quasi cypress
Is there any app like Der, die, das but to practice verbs with prepositions?
quasi cypress
Web or Android
open girder
@quasi cypress I don't know of any app but I have a big list of verbs (and nouns and adjectives) with prepositions if you want it
quasi cypress
@@open girder ja ja, ich will
Vielleicht dann ich mache selbst die Karten für anki
open girder
Ich glaube, @sacred jewel hat schon mit sowas angefangen
quasi cypress
If not, then I can do it and share it here
open girder
Okay cool, ich schicke dir die Liste wenn ich wieder zu Hause bin
remind 5h Liste schicken
dusk domeBOT
Alright @open girder, in 5 hours: Liste schicken
sacred jewel
Ich habe damit ein bisschen angefangen, aber konnte nicht weiter machen :(
dusk domeBOT
@open girder, 5 hours ago: Liste schicken
https://discordapp.com/channels/221708975698083841/240524318512119810/578568658314592277
open girder
@sacred jewel @quasi cypress
sacred jewel
Thank 🙏
dire rapids
hello, i have the b1 exam next week, i finished with so geht noch besser's book and i kept getting between 75 to 90, i tried 15 übungen and it really gave me a pain and made me think that i'm an idiot
due to it having some hard vocabulary, is there a good exams ressource where i can prepare myself for the goethe institut exam ?
or maybe if you guys have a good suggestion
i have from now 5 days left
sacred jewel
You could borrow exam preparation books like “mit Erfolg zum Goethe Zertifikat B1” from the gi library (or pirate?) @dire rapids also #resources has goethe b1 vocab list
Oh wait we are in #resources xd check pinned messages
quasi cypress
@open girder vielen herzlichen Dank! Es ist toll, viel mehr als ich erwartet! Und oh viel mehr zu lernen
Am Wochenende werde ich mit Excel und Anki zaubern
ornate pendant
omg @quasi cypress if you make an anki deck would it be possible to send it here?
quasi cypress
(omg all the responsibility) Yes, here or somewhere else online and share the link
ornate pendant
lol thanks
median stream
Question: Im going to be meeting a few German family members of my SO when I fly there in a few days. Anyone got any resources on German manner/politeness and/or general resources for how to leave a good impression? 😅
All I know is Sie and Bitte until told not to Sie...
untold geyser
@quasi cypress welche Podcasts würdest du empfehlen?
quasi cypress
@untold geyser Ich mag die foldende Podcast, aber das kommt immer darauf an, was und welche Themen dir gefallen.
https://www.swr.de/swr2/wissen/swr2wissen-podcasts/-/id=661224/did=1743638/nid=661224/t2gbvh/index.html
http://www1.swr.de/podcast/xml/swr2/1000antworten.xml
https://viertausendhertz.de/#podcasts
Nachrichten:
https://podcasts.apple.com/de/podcast/zdf-logo-21-deine-nachrichten/id187624659?mt=2
https://slowgerman.com/
Dann auch viel Sachen auf dw.de (wie immer)
sacred jewel
Dlf hat auch viele Podcasts
quasi cypress
Dlf?
untold geyser
@@quasi cypress Vielen Dank. Ich mache gerade einen C1-Kurs und mir wurde empfohlen, möglichst viel zu lesen. Ich glaube, das bedeutet auch, dass ich möglichst viel hören soll. ☺
brittle grotto
Was fur ein Deutsches Roman empfehlen sie fur die B2 Niveau?
ich mag etw. SciFi das auch zum Nachdenken anregt... Wie z.B. Foundation, oder Dune, oder so etwas.
grand maple
ein Youtuber hat darüber ein Video gemacht....
Warte mal, ich versuche es zu finden
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBWg47oUf4I&t=2s
Schau dir dieses Videos an...... ich habe es nicht gesehen aber der Titel sieht vielversprechend aus.
@brittle grotto
brittle grotto
Vielen dank!
spare pike
ey das Buch in der Mitte ( Supergute Tage ) mussten wir mal in der Schule lesen .
Fand ich aber nicht so toll . 4 von 10 Punkte dafür .
grand maple
Kannst du uns etw. empfehlen?
spare pike
Das links unterste Buch ( MAUS ) hab ich mal in ner Buchhandlung gesehen , ich fand die Mäuse Zeichnungen mit verbindung des 2. W.Krieges interesant. Sah deshalb nicht langeweilg aus . Hab halt aber nur geblätert nicht gelesen.
Und HarryPotter ( links ) finde ich zu dick , aber ist eigentlich auch cool . Habs nicht alles gelesen . Nur mal für ne Zeit ausgelien.
Ich kann Harry Potter empfehlen . Kann aber nach ner Zeit lesen , schon langeweilg werden.
grand maple
hmmm. danke für deine Antwort
spare pike
bitte
quasi cypress
@open girder ping or DM me, wann du Zeit hast. Ich will über die Tabellen von die Verben, Nomen mit Artikeln reden
hushed silo
ich find Harry Potter genau richtig von der Schwierigkeit her wenn man so halbwegs okay ist aber noch wenig Erfahrung mit Büchern hat. Hab den ersten Teil auf Portugiesisch gelesen und das hat mir immens geholfen
so irgendwo um B1 herum
final nacelle
I've made a sheet on the topic of the noun declination in German
sand marten
declension
final nacelle
crap, it was originally spelled as "declension" but another huy corected me
sand marten
lol who was this
anyway you should double check stuff instead of trusting the first or last voice blindly, including myself
sand marten
but i don't want to sound preachy, it's just that it's a really common error :P
sand marten
by itself I think it could come in handy for learners, the problem is that this sort of thing is rather common and easy to find with just a bit of googling, so I wonder what would bring learners to use yours over others
that said, even as a selfish exercise, I find that teaching is a good way to learn
final nacelle
yeah, I made it to help myself memorize all that stuff
grand maple
Russian FB for the win for german resources
carmine canopy
In other discussions they mentioned how to write the Umlaut with the dots, so :
Ä - ae
Ö - oe
Ü - ue
ẞ - ss
https://blogs.transparent.com/german/writing-the-letters-“a”-“o”-and-“u”-without-a-german-keyboard/
sand marten
we have a faq about that
carmine canopy
About what? About the resource I gave?
sand marten
about how to write german characters
carmine canopy
I didn't know that the replacement of the umlaut was written. Thank you, brzkr
final nacelle
Hey do you know any tests on some topics of the German grammar just in order to practise?
For example, to practise declining adjectives
misty valve
This is good if it's the kind of thing you want: http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar.html
@final nacelle
final nacelle
Oh thanks
wise girder
Well, found something great for getting Netzwerk books
I found the original German wqebsite for that textbook, and tried navigating there.
Apparently they do have separate sites for getting their textbooks distributed in your country
Or maybe I'm the dumb one who learned this later than others knew it, but just in case there's a second person like me, there ya go. I could link to the one for the United States of America
Ahh, nevermind, I searched the caht and found a post of that link
ivory osprey
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UgRDUCnH2Ps for anyone struggling with declension
wicked karma
yourdailygerman.com is da bomb
sly tendon
grand maple
German tv show if anyones looking for one. Not sure if it belongs here or media tho
Netflix show
sacred jewel
How is it? @grand maple
grand maple
Oh i havnt seen it yet. A friend told me today so decided to share here. He told its good tho. @sacred jewel
grand maple
oblique finch
Dark is an amazing TV series
grand maple
scroll a bit down to find magazines from spiegel. which i think one might be able to read on a kindle too.
albeit they are large.. around 50mb
oblique finch
I'm really so happy that my grandpa speaks German (just because he can haha), and I have someone to talk to
My grandma's cousin lives in München, so I really have a great opportunity to have someone to talk to 😂
median stream
Idk what countries its available in, but Generation War is a nice Band of Brothers-esque WW2 Netflix series done all in German (with English subs available)
Might be a bit dark, but its well made 👀
oblique finch
hmm, no, it's not here ):
What about Parfum, is that any good? I've got that on Netflix at least
grand maple
m gonna download that rn lol. i will tell u how it is after watching @oblique finch
oblique finch
Haha lol
Danke
neat kestrel
Does anybody have a dictionary/resource for idiomatic expressions, chunks, etc?
For example: gehen das sowieso nicht = That doesn't work anyway
south heart
Linguee has a repository of texts in both languages so it can show you how one chunk was translated
grand maple
@south heart what does that mean exactly?
median stream
@grand maple Sounds like the same process as ReversoContext. Look up a phrase in English/German, and it'll look through a bunch of official translated text it has and see where something from the other language has been translated that way.
Except it sounds like it might be bigger chunks of text than Reverso
south heart
Yeah thats it
grand maple
Ohhh.
I thought when he went "how one chunk was translated" they would show the grammer behind it or something😂
oblique finch
My grandparents had this, it's a really good resource for just reading some German
south heart
Keep in mind that this book is very likely pre spelling reform
oblique finch
When was the spelling reform
misty valve
1996
misty valve
It's fine to read older stuff but yeah, you need to make sure you're aware that some stuff might not be used anymore.
oblique finch
Oh okay, but it's good to know! Now I know not to read with a pinch of salt
TO read with a pinch of salt **
One day I'll read the original stories of the brothers Grimm
sand marten
they're not that hard to read actually. I recommend them
if anything for the high concentration of metal therein
disney has not prepared you for them
oblique finch
Nice
Love me some metal reading
misty valve
We've read quite a few of them here as group readings before, and the people who've participated pretty much always really enjoy it.
misty valve
@past schooner No thanks.
nimble matrix
Does anyone have a good resource for finding internet vocab? Like acronyms such as lol idk wtf and then streaming or gaming terms, or is that more something learned through exposure? I wanna find more vocab on what I'm interested in 😅
misty valve
Exposure would be easier than trying to find lists of vocab for that kind of thing.
And keep in mind, a large portion of vocab in that topic is going to just be English.
Depending on the specific context anyway.
nimble matrix
Okay, thank you for the response ^-^
carmine canopy
Zeitung lesen 😃
south heart
@nimble matrix tbh i cant think of any german specific internet acronyms
carmine canopy
Deutsche Chatabkürzungen:
zsm = zusammen
gn8 = gute Nacht
kp = kein Problem
kA = keine Ahnung
hdl = Hab' dich lieb.
omg = Oh mein Gott
@nimble matrix
fickle tartan
kp can also mean kein plan
nimble matrix
Thanks guys ^-^
south heart
kp can also mean Kampfpunkte for the pokemon players among us
äh sorry anscheinend heißt es Kraftpunkte
fickle tartan
KP ist glaub ich ein recht häufiges deutschen äquivalent zu HP, nicht nur in pkmn
median stream
Rif? 👀
sacred jewel
mMn?
fickle tartan
ansonsten einfach mal in #german-only in die pins schauen, um zu sehen, was eher nicht verwendet wird 
oblique finch
I made my Android language to German, so maybe I'll get some more vocab in
grand maple
I dont think all this stuff is gonna be that helpful...... Even when navigating ur phone fully through german.... Ur gonna learn at best 50 words.
Through so much pain of stumbling around a device u use so much
Practice immersion by curating the media u consume.
@oblique finch
Even m trying to cut down my reddit usage in favour of german stuff like tv shows and books
oblique finch
Well, I'm so used to the interface, so I could have a Chinese interface and still be able to navigate without much problem haha
But 50 words > 0 words, is my thinking
grand maple
Yah but in the long run.... Thats nothing
oblique finch
Well sorry, NEGATIVE NANCY 😤
tacit swallow
It's not so much about the phone itself
But the region locking
i.e. All your sites that have a region option show up in german if your phone is set to german
oblique finch
Yes I know
But German is so similar to Norwegian, so it's not really a problem reading simple sentences
tacit swallow
Nice
oblique finch
But
On YouTube, it says '5 Stunden' and according to Google Translate that is '5 hours ago', but doesn't Germans use any form of word after Stunden? Or is it just an abbreviation
grand maple
@oblique finch firstly wrong channel
Secondly, the google translate translation is wrong. Use deepl instead
Vor 5 Stunden. Ist richtig
oblique finch
oh, sorry
but thanks! 😄
oblique finch
What bands other than Rammstein is a cool German metal band? I also like Callejon
Maybe We Butter the Bread with Butter
Love me some hardcore punk
tacit swallow
Not sure if it's the appropriate channel but, check out Atari teenage riot
They're from Germany but that particular song is not In German 🤔
oblique finch
Well, it's kind of a resource
sacred jewel
Ich glaube, Ihnen gefallen Redewendungen, vielleicht finden Sie diese Sachen von DW interessant @forest merlin https://www.dw.com/de/deutsch-lernen/sprachbar/s-9011
forest merlin
@sacred jewel Danke. Ich werde mir diese Webseiten ansehen.
sacred jewel
Toll👍
sudden musk
Why though? Is it considered advertisement?
misty valve
@sudden musk To put it simply, promotion of pirated material isn't allowed by Discord's TOS.
sudden musk
Oooh OK... thanks for clarifying though
grand maple
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6f1kv0aUPG9I0Rp3dmLCPi
if anyones looking for an artist that doesnt go too fast. but not too slow.
haughty crater
Can someone send me resources for Prateritum if there is?
im really struggling in it
misty valve
@haughty crater What aspect are you struggling with specifically?
carmine canopy
@clever oracle i went into the resources in the pinned but theres tons 
what do you suggest I choose first
clever oracle
@carmine canopy Stick to the topics suggested by >ex beginner in #botchannel
carmine canopy
aight thanks
stoic yacht
I haven't even started learning German yet. Anyone have any resources that can help me get started?
misty valve
@stoic yacht Type >ex beginner in #botchannel
stoic yacht
alright ty
obtuse zephyr
I know you've heard this before, but duolingo is alright
median stream
Its good for starting to build vocab (also Anki flashcards).
Just make sure youre pairing that with grammer stuff 👀
livid cradle
A really nice app for listening to all German radio stations.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.crystalmissions.deradio
All are crystal clear quality
The first one the app started me on was called 1/Deutsch, it is pretty good.
There are like 100 stations so I dont think you'll ever be getting bored
A decent portion play hits in English too
But voiceovers in between are still in german
fickle tartan
im just gonna use the stock radio app of my phone
livid cradle
What phones come with stock radio apps?
And usually something like that doesnt account for various countries
fickle tartan
yeah
livid cradle
I have a S9 Plus
fickle tartan
i have a huawei mate 20 lite
has a stock fm radio
but probably cant get german radio from outside of germany
livid cradle
Also, interesting factoid, This phone has a chip for the radio but no apps to use it, also theres only like one app that will actually use the chip but you need wired headphones in the Jack to work as an antenna.
fickle tartan
you do need headphones for the fm radio
and there are apps like the stock one i have in play store
fickle tartan
noice
viscid quartz
@carmine canopy I recommend that you follow a step-by-step book for reading
If you want I can send you one.
carmine canopy
@viscid quartz i only know a coupple words, how am I supposed to read a damn book
carmine canopy
@viscid quartz can u send it to me? I’m looking to appear for my A1 and A2 Level exam soon and need good reliable resources.
quasi cypress
A list of recourses A1-C1
https://www.goethe.de/ins/bo/de/spr/unt/kum/mat.html
viscid quartz
@carmine canopy The book is in English
glass cloak
do we have speaking resources?
misty valve
@glass cloak Like what?
glass cloak
@misty valve uh like how to pronounce stuff and maybe also practice links
i have to speak german for a grade
misty valve
For listening to how stuff is pronounced, you can use the speaker buttons on dict.cc or you can use the website forvo.
Or even just watch stuff on youtube.
But as for actually speaking, you pretty much have to speak to real people. So I recommend just hopping in the VC some time.
Maybe even organize a practice speaking session with other people of your level on the server.
sharp geyser
hiya, which of your resources would you recommend i start with?
carmine canopy
heyo, you can check out our FAQ entry which aims to answer that question as best as possible -> >ex beginner in #botchannel :)
Otherwise just use our general resource list as reference
it's pinned in this channel
glass cloak
@misty valve thank you 💓
sharp geyser
@carmine canopy thank you :)
snow elbow
Free website to learn in basic/intermediate with games, pictures, and doing multiple choices and writing in German.
viscid quartz
@grand maple I don't use it anymore, but I still recommend it. It's called german quickly, by april wilson
oblique finch
Are there any good ways to find a random word/verb daily?
sacred jewel
You can ping Pferdo
sacred jewel
Yas
oblique finch
now what
oblique finch
what do you mean
winged briar
weißt jemand ob es gibt anderes youtube kanal über Sprache und Sprachelernen ab Stelle von Langfocus?
open girder
@oblique finch trotzen
oblique finch
Oh haha, I thought it was an automated bot
Sorry if I got impatient 😥
Ich trotze meine Mütter, weil sie mein Musik nicht lieben!
Was this what you meant @sacred jewel ? 😂
sacred jewel
Yes haha
oblique finch
Magen**
Oof lieben != magen lol
Mögen*
Ich trotze meine Mütter, weil sie mein Musik nicht mag!*
Oh, and Mutter*
I don't have two mothers (yet)
real herald
Hi. I would like to recommend the website www.canoonet.eu
It has a lot of stuff: dictionary, grammar articles, inflection...
But what I really like is that it also breaks down any word you want, so that you see what is the word composed of
It helps me remember better new words. Give it a try 😃
grand maple
damn this website has a good dictionary
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Vc22LEJbAOJ0MOqU6BLC4
spotify play list i found. pretty good.
snow elbow
https://www.verbix.com/windowsverbix/ <---- Verbix, Verb Conjugator program for Deutsch.
carmine canopy
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/7ihqZFlzRsuJ8HFTJdhDVY?si=6MxqSI4TSAWWV_r1hXEejQ
some quality shit
grand maple
https://open.spotify.com/playlist/5Vc22LEJbAOJ0MOqU6BLC4
this play list is pretty good too
liking it till now
lavish nebula
deutsche bahn, herz über kopf, lieblingsmensch, au revoir, hurra hurra die schule brennt... yessssss
grand maple
@south heart well then get to work.
south heart
Already did sweety
Me and @pure bolt listened to only the best songs in that playlist
grand maple
u sound like an american grandmom with that "sweety"
pure bolt
@south heart you've fucked my spotify now and forever
south heart
fucked ≡ made better
grand maple
holy shit that hammers books is like a bible for german grammer learners. i downloaded it too late.
sand marten
lol we basically advertise it every other day (or used to at least)
sand marten
it's not like you have to read it top to bottom
thin rover
Yea just turn it around and read bottom to top
Thats the bottom up approach of foreign language learning
sand marten
(it might actually work more than you'd expect)
carmine canopy
Kann jemand mir ein effizient Weg vorschlagen?
Ich habe alle Resourcen, dass dieses Kanal als pinned messages hat gebenutzen aber sie sind nicht genug für mich
Wo genau besteht denn Verbesserungsbedarf
carmine canopy
Ich vermute dass Ich genug keine Vokabularien zu gut Satz machen kennen. Ich glaube Grammatik von Deutsch geht in Ordnung für mich. Ich denke dass Ich meine Meinungen besser erklaren nicht.
viscid quartz
@carmine canopy A possible way to increase vocabulary is using apps (Duolingo, Memrise, Clozemaster, Beelinguapp), reading adapted books and a magazine called "Deutsch Perfekt". The two latter you can find on goethe institut's online library for borrowing. Google it.
I especially recommend the magazine, it is a fantastic resource.
carmine canopy
Thanks
ornate pendant
i had no idea this library existed, thanks for pointing it out
grand maple
@viscid quartz holy shit i was underestimating this libraries collection...... i was looking for media that could actually immerse me..... this website with its movies and stuff might be it!
do the movies have subtitles by the way? i could download and see for myself but my internet is slow 😦
viscid quartz
@grand maple At least the ones I've borrowed don't have subtitles unfortunately
grand maple
ughhh
its hard to come across subtitled content and i thought i ad hit a gold mine
*had
still the books seem nice i guess.
sand marten
if it helps (it doesn't really) I found myself learning fine by watching stuff without subs and just struggle through it. Provided it's not too much above your level.
even if you find subtitled stuff, the subs rarely match exactly
grand maple
hmmm...... i jus like knowing exactly what i am listening to. to actually entertain myself....... otherwise it becomes work. i am trying to look for alternatives of english media which i consume right now and replace it with german alternatives...... but it unfortunately has no subs.
but yah i guess i will give these movies on goethe library a shot
carmine canopy
Hello y'all, I just recently decided to start dedicating 1-2 hours a day of my life to learning german(since I graduated HS and now's the chance to do it, and I might as well need it for college later). However, the place I live in, there's nowhere to even study the language, even bookstores are "out of stock" for any of the books, so I decided to reach here if maybe anyone here could send me resources to start from A1 or something of that sort.
PS: If needed, I can allocate more time from my schedule for the lang.
pseudo junco
Does anyone have any chart or flashcards to learn when to use haben or sein in the perfekt tense?
ashen osprey
@carmine canopy If you look at the channel description or the pins, there's a helpful list of resources, including pdfs of textbooks. Schenke, the first link, is the go-to, I think.
Always check out libraries too, even if they might be further away.
carmine canopy
oof, the plugin for watching something through Goethe institut library isn't supported
im so unlucky
lament sundial
Teach me a word please
sand marten
Ein Wort.
obtuse zephyr
anyone know where i can find more telc b2 practice tests. theres only one on the website
sand marten
VK (the russian facebook basically) usually has a lot of stuff like that
grand maple
download all the books which offer B2 practice tests.
and u will find the books on the russian facebook
@obtuse zephyr check the link i sent in ur dm
balmy sedge
Guys, so I finished German 1 on Memrise a while ago. And just started German 2, but I don’t see videos of people speaking! They used to do that with German 1.
carmine canopy
Ich habe noch keinen Spongebob auf Deutsch gesehen
Wie gesagt; mein Name war ein schnelle Übersetzung, nichts mehr
Aber wenn du etwas findest, schicke mir bitte auch einen Link
grand maple
ahh okaay
real herald
Wo kann ich einige TV Serien für Kindern auf Deutsch mit Untertiteln gucken?
grand maple
u can try searching the Kika channel on youtube. i think they make content for kids and they might have videos with subtititles.
balmy sedge
Like, short stories
grand maple
@balmy sedge Beelingua app on android
grand maple
@frank plover they always ask if you want to join premium. but even w/o that u can use almost all the stories...... infact i have even tried to see what are teh prices for premium, but i cant find that. kinda like winrar. u can use almost all its features.
but i havnt really got a need for upgrading to premium. it perfectly fullfills its purposes
frank plover
Thank you, will have a look then. I am trying to detach from Duolingo as the only tool to learn from even though I'm just starting.
frank plover
@grand maple do you know tandem?
agile minnow
Hello. Has anyone tried Mango Languages for learning German? I tried Duolingo for a few months, but did not feel like I was making a lot of progress.
carmine canopy
Duolingo is not a reliable resource for learning a language. It is good for learning vocabulary, but you have to learn the grammar and sentence structure elsewhere, otherwise you won’t even know what to do with the vocabulary that you learn on duolingo. Duolingo doesn’t reach grammar. @agile minnow
Nor sentence structure
Which is an aspect of grammar already I guess
lost dragon
I quit duo cause I wound up with a mountain of words but unable to form or understand basic sentances
agile minnow
Thank you. Yes, that's what I felt with Duolingo. I understood words, but I had no easy way to put them together
carmine canopy
Right
When you know all of the grammar, duolingo is then a lot more worth your time, because you immediately know how to use the words.
agile minnow
I heard about Mango Languages today, but I don't know if that will help. I'm struggling to find the right place to restart learning German.
I kinda gave up when I did not make much progress with duolingo 😦
agile minnow
Do you have any other recommendations? 😃
I'll definitely go through the list of resources here and do some more research.
carmine canopy
There are a ton of great resources out there online to learn grammar from. I personally didn’t have to use them because I learned all of the grammar in school.
I don’t know about any of the resources, but I do have one recommendation for you, which is youtube.
There’s youtube channels explaining grammar
agile minnow
Awesome. Okay. I'll look on Youtube. I bought a few easy to read books, but even the easy to read ones are pretty difficult. Haha
carmine canopy
If you want, I can show you a few to get you started. I’ve used them myself as well because my German teacher wanted us to watch them
carmine canopy
One second man I’ll find them and send them your way
agile minnow
Thank you so much
ashen osprey
Schenke's Basic German is a great textbook to start with, from what I've heard. Otherwise, the list of resources, and YouTube and Google have great resources. @agile minnow
little grotto
@fresh crane
Erstens mal gibt es #resources, wo du ein umfassendes Google Doc finden wirst:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1LwmGt7B6qLF1FLChiKUCO7PRLUIKLbd8_gwOyVIEzv8/edit#heading=h.kkewppowlpkl
fresh crane
Das ist... Awesome! Vielen Vielen Dank Mann :D
alpine orbit
Hier ist eine Grafik, die ich sehr nützlich finde.
grand maple
This chart should be pinned. 👌 👌
misty valve
It is a good way to visualize the charts, but in terms of actual memorization, you only need the first one (definite articles) and the 7th one (adjectives after definite articles). Everything else is essentially just reusing the same information from those two charts.
carmine canopy
Agreed, this is a beautiful image, but perhaps a little convoluted/more complicated than it need be.
sand marten
not even that, it's just that it could be used for revision or to make sure of specific cases, but not for learning
the human mind learns best from patterns, e.g. thinking it in terms of "something has to give away the case and gender of the noun" instead of "drill these patterns into your head"
misty valve
Yeah.
The two charts I mentioned are essentially summarizing the only ending patterns you need to memorize. Everything else is summed up in short rules.
coral karma
outer sapphire
I have a similar list like this
but I sorted it out into common stem vowel changes
karmic fossil
An extension on Google that makes you able to turn on "Double subtitles" on Netflix. It also adds more languages than Netflix supports.
barren rampart
karmic fossil
Yes, that one
spiral breach
I am absolutely in love with the curated list of resources; it’s awesome! Thanks, moderation team! 😊😊😊
just one question tho
what happened to the grammar pile
misty valve
What do you mean?
spiral breach
There’s a link to something called the grammar pile, which was a collection of books about foreign language grammar, and I loved it, but it’s not there anymore @misty valve
misty valve
Are you sure? I don't remember seeing something called that on there, but if it got removed, possibly the link was broken or something along those lines. @spiral breach
spiral breach
spiral breach
When you click on it, the books are no longer there
carmine canopy
It says "update your browser to use drive"
spiral breach
I have drive tho
I’m on mobile currently
hold on a sec
wait what the f-
those books were illegal?
This just popped up for me
misty valve
Well, they were probably pirated and uploaded.
So technically illegal, sure.
Depending on where you live and so on.
misty valve
Why wouldn't they be? People use Google Drive to upload pirated material all the time.
misty valve
Of course.
spiral breach
and it’s just like totally ok? lmao
spiral breach
But if it’s not allowed...
misty valve
That's up to whoever hosted it and Google's policies.
spiral breach
oh hmm
Well obviously whoever wrote the post felt very strongly about whoever reported it
damn
I’m gonna miss that illegal pile of books
lol
hushed silo
the grammar pile is gonna come back but a few guys are taking the opportunity to restructure it and fill in a bunch of holes
and then, it’s still not quite decided how it’ll be rehosted
and yea, it’s hundreds of copyrighted books just being distributed, of course it’s illegal
google took it down as soon as someone reported it
I happen to know the guys curating it (it has nothing to do with this server)
still dock
Can anyone recommend me a bunch of german youtube channels with any kind of entertainment (talk shows, documentaries, science ...) just whatever you guys enjoy watching, thanks a lot <3
carmine canopy
Easy German
median stream
What level of German are we talking about here? (Dont think I have any, but its useful to know)
And yeah, are we talking educational or just entertainment?
misty valve
For LP channels, Gronkh is popular, but I also like Gerugon. He plays cool games.
hushed silo
second gronkh, and in particular watch his Edna Bricht Aus and Harvey’s Neue Augen series for some brilliant black humor (note: the second of those games is the sequel but iirc he played it first. it’s watchable in either order)
deep smelt
I can also recommend Gronkh
grand maple
idk who gronkh is but i too support watching him.
misty valve
He's just a really popular German youtuber who does LPs.
Popular as in lots of people know/watch him and he has a lot of subs and so on.
grand maple
Lp's as in he plays a game adnd we watch him yah?
misty valve
Yeah.
grand maple
oh ok.
carmine canopy
@still dock Look for maiLab, she talks a lot about science and it is funny.
still dock
thanks!
grand maple
yah and a gud amount of her vids have subtitles
sand marten
@still dock also check out Dinge Erklärt, it's the German version of Kurzgesagt
zenith gale
But why would they use a different name in German if "Kurzgesagt" is already German? 🤔
ashen osprey
Otherwise it'd be more difficult to find
shy kestrel
thank you 4 this list (the one linked in description)
quasi cypress
@pure bolt Hi, looooong time ago you've recommended DaF Grammatik aktiv. Is it from Cornelsen with colorful cover (bright green at the bottom) ?
pure bolt
Genau 😄
quasi cypress
This book? It's on
https://www.cornelsen.de/reihen/grammatik-aktiv-deutsch-als-fremdsprache-120002420000 or somewhere as PDF 😉
idle thunder
Kennt jemand einen guten deutschen Podcast? muss nicht unbedingt Deutsch lernen-focused sein
carmine canopy
we have quite a few in our resource list
carmine canopy
gern
grand maple
this is the first time i am seeing "Ox1's lemon cake recipe" in the resource list
toxic sable
Was ist ein guter Website, das man kann guter Zeitung finden?
Am Deutschland, natürlich.
sacred jewel
@toxic sable check the resource list
haughty ibex
I know a site with german dubbed series if someone is interested
violet geyser
haughty ibex
Yeah but it is not available in the US, Ive tested it there