alright
#resources
unkempt sinew
Er macht einen Kuchen - He is making a cake
Er hat einen Kuchen gemacht - He has made a cake
Er sagt, er hätte einen Kuchen gemacht (aber ich bezweifle es) - He said, he would have made a cake (but i doubt that)
cinder python
Soo many tenses/moods/aspects/whatever 😐
carmine canopy
@cinder python every language has them but you don't even think about it
right right, I get that aspect
cinder python
That's not really true
unkempt sinew
I still often get the have been-form wrong 😅
cinder python
Might be true for most IE languages though
carmine canopy
@cinder python to be quite honest, non-IE langauges are even harder, for their own reasons.
chinese,japanese,arabic,swahili, whatever
all have their own peculirarities which make them hard
unkempt sinew
not to be nit-picky but russian is an IE-language
cinder python
So is Hindi xD
unkempt sinew
Finnish, Hungarian, Albanian and Baske aren't though
carmine canopy
and those are super hard
cinder python
Albanian is
unkempt sinew
ah yes
i had in mind that it is an isolated language but not that it could still be IE ^^
"Ich hatte gemacht" would be Pqpf
There is no distinction between Perfekt and Plusquamperfekt in the past Konjunktiv II
there is no way of stating that something had happened before something in the past in the K II without using prepostions like bevor, nachdem aso.
pseudo matrix
hello
pseudo matrix
ok, where can i make a request for a resource?
oak void
sand marten
the gender is called neuter, not neutral
also that 1) 2) part is not very clear 🤔 (is it an AND or an OR gate?)
apart from that, nice work
carmine canopy
vocal walrus
I always just thought of Neutr. As neutral, cuz it just kinda makes sense as its neither masc. Or fem.
carmine canopy
...
sand marten
a website to download ebooks (many of which in epub form) was posted some time ago. You might want to check the resource list in the pinned messages and see if it's there (or if there's anything else of the sort)
carmine canopy
Thanks. I've looked into that and it's not really what I meant but thank you anyways.
sudden frost
sand marten
declension* :P
looks good. What did you use to make it?
sand marten
it would mean that it neither has an article nor hasn't one. I don't know if it's the term I would sue but it does sound pretty "out of scope" to me
carmine canopy
@sand marten @carmine canopy there are miscellaneious words that require either "strong, mixed, or weak" endings that aren't easily predicted
to include them all in the chart would make it so much more complicated
words like jeder, etwas, alle, viel, derselbe etc
you just have to learn those on your own ¯_(ツ)_/¯
sleek holly
Unchanged article? 🤔 Got it.
carmine canopy
TIL Kurzgesagt has a german-language channel: https://www.youtube.com/user/KurzgesagtDE/videos
carmine canopy
Quizlet
brazen lantern
jagged marsh
Habt ihr eine methode um vokab zu lernen
Do you use srs or just learn it one by one from texts
unkempt sinew
here is a worksheet for directional and local adverbs:
http://cornelia.siteware.ch/grammatik/arbeitsblgramm/hinundher.pdf
sudden forum
I'm surprised that https://coerll.utexas.edu/gg/gr/index.html apparently isn't on the list of resources. It's an amazing website
Actually wait, Base already posted that in may. They just haven't added it to the list.
green osprey
This helped me a great deal: http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar/adjektivendungenexpl.html
that is all
BUT WAIT THERE'S MORE IF YOU CALL NOW http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar.html
viscid quartz
carmine canopy
https://www.deepl.com/translator
better than google trans
tidal thicket
Not sure if this is the right channel to post this
https://www.coursera.org/learn/learning-how-to-learn
ebon pendant
If anyone is using the Aussichten books to learn German, the pdf files above contain translations of the words (A1-B1)
They could also help other people as well
brazen arch
https://www.youtube.com/user/KhanAcademyDeutsch
Khan Academy videos in German!
carmine canopy
Active and Passive Taxonomy
Aktiv Präsens: ich schreibe den Brief
Aktiv Präteritum: ich schrieb den Brief
Aktiv Perfekt: ich habe den Brief geschrieben
Aktiv Plusquamperfekt: ich hatte den Brief geschrieben
Aktiv Futur I: ich werde den Brief schreiben
Aktiv Futur II: ich werde den Brief geschrieben haben
Passiv Präsens: Der Brief wird von mir geschrieben
Passiv Präteritum: Der Brief wurde von mir geschrieben
Passiv Perfekt: Der Brief ist von mir geschrieben worden
Passiv Plusquamperfekt: Der Brief war von mir geschrieben worden
Passiv Futur I: Der Brief wird von mir geschrieben werden
Passiv Futur II: Der Brief wird von mir geschrieben worden sein
carmine canopy
carmine canopy
warning: prefixes are extremely unpredictable and this chart should not be taken as their exact/only meaning
carmine canopy
Franz Kafka - Der Prozess
Text: http://paralleltext.io/read/?b=d6fce373-12be-4f25-b160-50c141043616#0
Audio: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNL0it9ukWY&list=PLfaDeBc89hp4hV3G7wcDKT_JxujNj0OAB
fallow creek
Does anyone have the PDF for A series of unfortunate events? I downloaded one, not realizing it was only the first chapter and then I couldn't find a complete version online ;(
slow flume
if so, tag me too
fallow creek
Maybe not :(
thin violet
Pretty simple, but I was looking for a simple explanation of which pronoun to use and I found one: https://www.lsa.umich.edu/german/hmr/grammatik/Basic_Chart.html
olive remnant
I really don't feel like reweriting my whole reddit post so here ya go
"Hi everyone, I'm a current high school student who is very enthusiastic about German! Currently, I am at an Intermediate to Advanced level in French and am taking it in school. However, I've always wanted to learn German(my school doesn't offer it.) What would be the best and most in-depth way to do this? I don't have time in my schedule to take a class or the money to go abroad. Please give me some good online program or book recommendations, thank you!"
open girder
Look at the pinned messages.
carmine canopy
learn deutsch durch hören mit untertiteln
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDCJ--VLwmY&list=PL6FkiGmc3T1V6U1bRM283_YDoFD1Oents
sour crow
tiny cipher
https://youtu.be/_xL6XD48jMk this is p useful
cinder python
The "Schenke and Seago - Basic German" link in the resource document is dead 😮
misty valve
For now.
cinder python
Well, the site is up but the link 404s, so I'm not sure it will be coming back
misty valve
cinder python
Thanks!
misty valve
Np. ❤
indigo junco
owo
tidal thicket
proper musk
I know this has been mentioned before, but it seems that a lot of people join us every few days, so just to let other people know: Duolingo's TinyCards app is quite nice.
It's a cute looking flashcard app where you can also add images and voice, and there's also a training part after reviewing the cards where you're asked questions. And there are already premade Duolingo German flashcards with all the words from the app :) it's really good for tests and such where you have to memorize a set of words.
fallow creek
Info about how to form superlatives
tired void
This is probably an FAQ, but does anyone know of a bescherelle equivalent for German?
charred python
i think german conjugation is regular enough to not require anything of the sort
sand marten
if you just need conjugation tables, you can look at conjugator.reverso.net
carmine canopy
help conj
dusk domeBOT
>[verb|conj] <verb> [lang=german]
Get the conjugation for a <verb> in <lang>.
carmine canopy
I'm solely providing the commands, it's up to you to use them ;)
sand marten
but I forget when i need it
or most often I don't want to clutter the chat or be seen forgetting always the same things so I just hop into my browser :P
sleek holly
Ban Berzer.
carmine canopy
Very helpful page
https://www.50languages.com/phrasebook/lesson/en/de/83
carmine canopy
Hey guys im taking my universities german course; but it sucks do you guys have a good place to start learning german?
misty valve
Sure, check out the link in this channe's topic description.
carmine canopy
thanks bruder
carmine canopy
conj wohnen
carmine canopy
@opaque fulcrum
opaque fulcrum
Oh thank you.
carmine canopy
You're welcome
ruby cobalt
FYI - Whoever is responsible for keeping the Curated List up to date
The first link for the Schenke and Seago Basic German workbook is broken, it should be changed to http://www.readersstuffz.com/downloads/ebooks/Language Books/German/German - Basic.pdf
Also, where do I make suggestions for the music list? I used the Edit function on the wiki page but it doesn't appear that anything happened (not sure if it gets sent to a "waiting for approval" bucket somewhere or not)
ruby cobalt
@carmine canopy ^ would you/another Mod be the person to ask?
sand marten
probably @sleek holly
carmine canopy
I'll take care of it in a few minutes
ruby cobalt
❤ Danke schön
ruby island
Does anyone know any good basic german textbooks in french? I need to get a new one :P
unkempt sinew
There is only a Spotify Playlist that was not made by a user here though
We could start a YouTube Playlist though
It will just be a bit difficult to find videos that are available both in- and outside of Germany.
ruby cobalt
ah yeah... I got a bit mixed up I think on the music piece, I was referring to the music list linked from the /r/German FAQs
spiral moth
I was wondering if you guys had any reccomendations on how to get started on learning German.
ruby island
No problem!
ruby cobalt
be aware that the very first link is dead and is about to be updated
you can scroll up in this channel just a bit for the correct link
ruby cobalt
gerne
carmine canopy
@ruby cobalt I fixed the broken link
cinder python
I noticed there's a 2nd version of that book: https://www.amazon.com/Basic-German-Grammar-Workbook-Workbooks-ebook/dp/B01EAHZJUO/ref=mt_kindle?_encoding=UTF8&me=
Anyone got a clue how different they are?
ruby cobalt
Danke @carmine canopy
tidal thicket
Only mods can update the list?
carmine canopy
Yes
ruby cobalt
Herzlichen Dank to all you guys who put these resources together - I feel like I'm learning more from the German - Basic workbook than I learned in all my time on Duolingo... definitely right up my alley for my learning style 👍
sleek holly
Well, most of those were submitted by you guys. ❤ We just try to organize them in one place. Although I've fallen a bit behind lately.
sand marten
mein Freund suchte nach Kinderbücher um Deutsch zu üben. Kennt jemand irgendwo, wo man sie kostenfrei kriegen kann?
smoky hinge
online oder echtes Buch?
sand marten
es ist schwer, echte Bücher kostenfrei zu finden :P
smoky hinge
falss online sind die Resourcen in Google (von Arrem) schon genug
sand marten
aber wenn du etwas kennst, dann schon
smoky hinge
ich hab eigentlich 30 kinderbücher oder so heruntergeladen
sand marten
👍
unkempt sinew
@sand marten
http://gutenberg.spiegel.de/
Geb einfach mal was im Suchfeld ein und du wirst schon fündig werden, denke ich mal ^^
und hier ist eine Liste von Kinderbüchern, die man da eingeben könnte:
https://www.reddit.com/r/German/wiki/books
barren juniper
The videos begin from the latest one (example 200), but you can check the page on youtube for the playlists
they have the same problem, but it's easier to navigate them so
carmine canopy
My Lemon Cake recipe
proper musk
Actually, don't use TinyCards.
It's quite bad :/ very slow and you /have/ to do stupid exercises based on your own flashcards
I just kinda regret making over 50 flashcards and having to rewrite them on another app
Basically
ruby cobalt
stimmt - I hated my (very shortlived) experience with tinycards
proper musk
It's not good for revision
It's terrible
I kinda liked it at first @ruby cobalt
But just because of the design
Because most flashcards apps look like they were made in 2011 and never updated
Oh and yeah
It's really difficult to write flashcards on that thing
ruby cobalt
tbh, while old, Anki still seems to be one of the best
proper musk
Not intuitive at all, you always have to tap on the cards to write something (why tho), you have to scroll right and left on the screen /just a little bit/ to write in the front and back of the card; since the app is slow it takes a long while for the word to appear on the card after you typed it, so you think that maybe you didn't type on the card first, so you rewrite the word but, oh, look at that, you did write the word the first try and now you have the same word two times on the same card! Good luck deleting only the last one. Then the whole thing of changing keyboard language from your native language to German or otherwise be prepared to rewrite every word since autocorrect will do its job.
@ruby cobalt I'll try it, everyone talks about it
ruby cobalt
Go for a frequency-based vocab list (top 1000 or something) and try to create a deck where the definition of the word is a picture of the thing rather than a translation. Easier to retain for most
carmine canopy
Where is a good article to learn the 4 cases?
ruby cobalt
pinned messages 👀
misty portal
Hey guys quick question - should I work on the Basic German grammar book then move on to the Intermediate German grammar book after I'm finished? The contents seem to overlap a bit
misty valve
Repetition isn't bad at all for language. If you like the format, I say go for it.
misty portal
thanks!
carmine canopy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKXwOxsa60E
A youtuber I found a while back that focuses on teaching German.
topaz canyon
loreline
carmine canopy
Oh yeah, Katja's also on this server @bright condor
austere mason
I learned how to pronounce the R sound thanks to her
slow flume
Wow I didn't know thay
pine glade
On YouTube there's a channel called Learn German with Ania. She does some cool stuff and she actually has an Android and IOS App to help you study and learn. She has mini quizzes at the end of each lesson in the app as well.
ruby cobalt
Ich liebe sie :)
cinder python
Does anyone have a list of suffixes that without exception have a specific gender?
heavy horizon
I think there is one in "Hammer's Grammar Guide" in one of the first pages
unkempt sinew
this page has seperate sections for words that are always a certain gender and words that are usuallya certain gender based on endings, word groups etc.:
https://www.thoughtco.com/masculine-feminine-or-nueter-in-german-4068442
please ignore the fact that they have a spelling error in the title, their resources are usually quite useful, i think
cinder python
Nice, thanks!
carmine canopy
silk fiber
Im on the phone where is the google resource linl
sand marten
carmine canopy
Does anyone know of a resource for pronunciation? Specifically: ö v. u v. ü? They all sound the same to me.
sand marten
you could try youtube, I'm sure many tried to explain that
also you could compare the audio from different words on forvo
and listen to the audio for the various German vowels as provided on wikipedia
carmine canopy
I've seen people compare u and ü, but not all three. I'll look into forvo. Thanks !
unkempt sinew
sand marten
about forvo, it might be best to hear words that have all those sounds you're interested in. I can't think of anything that has all three though 🤔
ruby cobalt
It seems like ä sometimes gets pronounced like "ey" (as in, "hey" or a Spanish "e") - is this just the nature of the consonants that follow the ä making it sound different, while the vowel is formed the same every time regardless?
hmm actually come to think of it, and yea maybe it's just poor hearing of the vowel sound by itself, but it seems like it ranges from
"eh" as in t[e]n, b[e]d, l[e]nd (Männer, hätte) to "ey" as in h[ey], th[ey], f[ai]r (fähren, bär)
obtuse zephyr
@soft depot 
obtuse zephyr
@soft depot 🍌 🍌 🍌
carmine canopy
I have an essay to write but I've never had to write one before so I'm a bit lost. Does anyone know any lists of crucial writing words, like transitions specifically?
noble night
Omg Chuck! 
brazen lantern
in case it's not in here already: https://www.lingq.com/
couldn't find it via search
tidal thicket
Is there a tts site or program i can use for german?
Also, the dw interaktiv course on DW doesnt work, don't know about the other courses
tidal thicket
I need something I can use with an ebook
slow flume
thats exactly this lol
tidal thicket
Oh
slow flume
what book?
tidal thicket
The ones on the resource list
slow flume
yea just import it to the website
tidal thicket
Ok thanks
carmine canopy
idk where else to share this, but any of you linux terminal nerds out there:
mental socket
using mac terminal if that counts 😂
tiny cipher
Too bad, just so everyone knows that LingQ site has a paywall at 20 "notes" you make
slow flume
10$ a month aint nothin'
fierce fable
Does anyone have any good resource on verbs with prepositions?
sand marten
the best I've got is reverso context. Whenever I'm unsure of a preposition I write the verb and look for sentences that specify the kind of info I want to specify, then look at the prep they use
viscid quartz
fierce fable
Thanks. That was exactly the kind of thing I was looking for.
proper musk
Is it ok if I share scans?
Of papers my teacher gave me? They're a lot but I don't want to be spammy
sand marten
you could make a shared folder on google drive/dropbox/similar and share a link to that instead
proper musk
Oh, that makes sense, good idea
barren juniper
sly tendon
Anyone know where to watch Disney movies in German?
tidal thicket
After a million years dw replied to my email about their interaktiv kurs probably gonna take another million year to fix it
sand marten
@sly tendon 
has been the only effective way to watch what I couldn't find on German Netflix, which is also probably off limits to you if you don't live here
deft walrus
Pirates have everything
sly tendon
@sand marten @fallow creek Thx
civic owl
Hat Jeder Erfahrung mit die Buch "Kontakte"?
sand marten
jemand*
otherwise you're asking if everybody does, which would almost certainly result in "no" :P
persönlich kenne ich das nicht
heavy horizon
And its dem
civic owl
Ahh. Danke. I thought Jeder was everyone, but the dictionary said it worked for anyone also lol
sand marten
it does that in specific situations
clever geode
Tartarus - do you have Netflix?
not always, but sometimes it has German as an option for films
tiny cipher
https://www.authenticgermanlearning.com/feed/podcast a podcast for learnin'
viscid quartz
Not sure why but the link isn't opening here
winter solstice
Complete Pimsleur German learning MP3's https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxeTR1ER7eR2S18zMzRaUHd2d1U/view?usp=sharing
opaque fulcrum
@carmine canopy pretty sure i got this from someone
sour crow
Would anybody happen to have a PDF of Mord am Morgen or any books by Andre Klein?
sly tendon
@clever geode I have found shows on there but I also found playing" Garrys mod" on German servers are way more fun and interactive
carmine canopy
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1w2GLD7KwkiLooLfdEQsPZxC7vII1LpQE Schöne Gruße aus Russland! Übungen für die Oberstufe B2-C1 fon Hueber (or its Hüber idk). Das ist ein wirklich gutes Buch, ich empfehle es allen 😃
tiny cipher
Btw if anyone of us have listened to the podcast I linked (https://www.authenticgermanlearning.com/podcast-de/) he'd really like reviews on Itunes for it so it can get out to more people
earnest eagle
tiny cipher
marble veldt
viscid quartz
Hey guys, I've created this course, maybe it'll be helpful to others https://www.memrise.com/course/1668353/german-tenses/
(Tell me if you find any mistakes)
rare rapids
https://www.hueber.de/shared/uebungen/menschen/ab/a1-1/menu.html
This link contains all the exercises from the book. Grammatik/Strukturen etc. From easy to hard exercises. Just edit the link if you want a2 exercises: https://www.hueber.de/shared/uebungen/menschen/ab/a2-1/menu.html or https://www.hueber.de/shared/uebungen/menschen/ab/a2-2/menu.html . Goes up to b1-2
cosmic condor
hidden carbon
anyone got any lgbtq+ vocab stuff?
carmine canopy
nope, couldn't find anything online either. I'm happy to translate stuff for you though
hidden carbon
Ok so like, this might go into very strong non-standard/neologistic territory, but i guess that's the case for lgbtq+ stuff in general isn't it..
do you know if there's like any talk on neutral pronouns?
carmine canopy
I only know of "Es"
hidden carbon
So I guess that discussion hasn't really been had with German too much yet?
carmine canopy
carmine canopy
I've never really heard it, sorry
hidden carbon
is ok
unkempt sinew
don't use "Es" for non-binary people - it makes them more an object than a person.
and we do have that discussion, it is just that we already have genders in our language and itroducing a different pronoun into a language is not that easy then.
hidden carbon
I feel this is a pretty common theme in Indo-European languages...
There's often no room for gender neutrality... And you just gotta... Be very forceful and have like standardisation reforms to get neutrality.
unkempt sinew
yeah
hidden carbon
In Norway, there's a very huge debate currently with this, Norwegian is mostly neutral, but that's because we've been trying to make it so for decades.
(there's like no gendered work titles anymore basically)
unkempt sinew
we have a discussion about endings of professions though - for example:
a teacher is a Lehrer
a female teacher is a Lehrerin
if you want to say both at the same time you can write it as one of these:
Lehrer*in
LehrerIn
Lehrer_in
the first one is a bit better imo, as the * is meant to include trans*- and non-binary people as well
hidden carbon
There's a long distance to go with this stuff it seems.
@unkempt sinew Are you familiar with what pronouns nb people generally favour? Because like, one can discuss what could be done all day, but in practice I feel it might be more interesting to know what the communities naturally have gone towards.
unkempt sinew
i don't really know tbh :/ - i don't personally know any non-binary people myself, but i could do some digging and try to find something if you give me a minute
ruby cobalt
Maybe not the place for this discussion but it feels really awkward to me for anyone to expect an entire language to change in order to make an accomodation for an excrutiatingly small subsect of people. Being trans isn't a choice, but being offended most definitely is. Generally, in languages with in-built genders, there's a common vernacular that people use and 99.999% of people, trans or otherwise, don't get offended by it because that's just the way the langauge is. Don't mean to spark some debate on this, just my unpopular opinion on the matter.
hidden carbon
oki
Well you know, Anubis, you can be like the majority then and just ignore trans/nb people's feelings.
ruby cobalt
Yep, go ahead and get defensive. I'm not going to reply here because as I said this isn't the place. I stand by what I said: being offended is a choice
hidden carbon
I'm not getting defensive.
ruby cobalt
Very passive aggressive
hidden carbon
I'm just making a statement.
There's nothing stopping you.
Anyway, I was just asking for some lgbtq+ vocab, not for a discussion on your political views on it.
unkempt sinew
maybe we should stop making accusations towards anybody 👀
sand marten
I don't think he would be automatically set himself to ignore the feeling of two entire categories just by saying that taking offense at a language matter is a matter of choice 🤔
sorry to weigh in. I dislike it when misunderstandings like these can bring on unneeded arguments
unkempt sinew
i just don't know where we got the whole "offense" thing form here?
hidden carbon
I was just looking for some words that aren't easy to look up. And of course, as expected, I get faced with prejudice and bigotry. Always so typical that someone would make an ignorant comment when you bring up lgbtq+ topics.
We can't all be your cis straight traditionally feminine/masculine Housewife and Workinghusband, Anubis.
ruby cobalt
Prejudice and bigotry 😩 and the choice to be offended has been made.
absolutely absurd
hidden carbon
You're the one getting offended.
unkempt sinew
would you two stop right now?
hidden carbon
You literally created a problem from nowhere. There was no conflict before.
i'm just gonna leave this group
hidden carbon
The blog you sent me has actually a lot of pretty good lists I just noticed.
unkempt sinew
that was 0x1's link though ^^
carmine canopy
i'd just like to apologise for any inconveniences caused by other server members
swift wigeon
😅
ruby cobalt
For the record, I have PMed @hidden carbon and believe we have come to an understanding. I'll also apologize here for any offense that my words may unintentionally have caused any other readers.
viscid quartz
The fight was funny though
marble veldt
https://alles-zum-deutschlernen.blogspot.co.uk/search/label/startseit this has a lot of free content and resourses for people at every level of proficiency
hollow sinew
^ are these pdfs legal?
swift wigeon
ist uns auch egal 😉 
hollow sinew
@swift wigeon Don't they press charges over there?
swift wigeon
idk 
hollow sinew
Yea no thanks I'll pass
swift wigeon
@sleek holly flopsy kappa disease is spreading 😦
sleek holly
We'll add a filter. 😛
hollow sinew
Oh no I can't anymoar
carmine canopy
Well the thing is, copyrighted material is properietary. While the usage without explicit consent is not illegal, sharing or reproducing is
hollow sinew
Yea I wouldn't share with anyone if I ever got it
Thanks though for the information!
thin violet
the fruits of my lesson on pronouns
misty valve
👌
thin violet
thank you @misty valve ❤
misty valve
❤
proper musk
Goddamn, I just wanted to share a cool language learning app and I had to deal with ~discourse~ on the last place I expected it. I don't want to start another argument, I just want to apologize on behalf of transgender people for you-know-who's behaviour. Entitlement is not nice, nor is it playing the victim. You're here to learn a language, not to be offended because it doesn't suit you. Cultural diversity, baby.
Anyways, here's the really cool app I talked about. It's called Lingvista. Works like Duolingo but it's cleaner and has grammar explanations (though they're very brief). The system is very nice and you actually learn new vocabulary because they're used in context and you're not "penalised" if you don't know it. The goal is to learn 100 words a day.
And I'll probably send those sheets I talked about a long time ago tomorrow, sorry D:
viscid quartz
I'm considering dropping Duolingo in favour of Lingvist
It's hard to let go of my streak though 
proper musk
I know the pain
But I've grown to dislike duo
I always feel like I never get to learn anything
It's more like a game
viscid quartz
Same, I don't really have fun with it anymore
proper musk
Then there's the weird sentences.
Back they they were fun but now, I'm tired of having to repeat exercises when it wasn't even my fault.
viscid quartz
Yes
Thanks for reminding of it @proper musk
I'll try to keep doing both for now, maybe soon I'll just drop duolingo
I have an over 1300 days streak though It's hard
But frankly it's the only thing that makes me come back
viscid quartz
It's useless though It'd be useful if I were studying multiple languages, but I'm not
proper musk
How so?
Sorry, I never understood all those mechanics behind duo. I still have no reaction when that bird gives me lingots or whatever
viscid quartz
I just mean the only reason why someone would have such long streak should be learning multiple languages
But I'm just learning German
There are better ways to brush up I think
proper musk
Ohh
Yeah definitely
Wait
With a 1300 days strike, have you finished the tree?
Duo is morbidly long sometimes
viscid quartz
Yeah I finished the German tree and the reverse one in the first year
proper musk
There's a reverse one? Fancy
And one year?? Holy
Nah
You can leave duo at this point
viscid quartz
You're right
proper musk
One thing I like to do is watch a movie/series with English audio and German subtitles
I'm quite privileged on that aspect tho
I have a friend from the USA who didn't mind sharing his Netflix account with me
Otherwise my parents would never allow me that, even though it's not really that expensive and it would help the whole family learn German :/
proper musk
I still feel guilty tho D:
I mean, he's the one paying for it
And idk I feel bad
Even though he knows it's just because I thought it'd be good for me to learn the language
And he really likes to talk about Star Trek
BUT STILL I FEEL BAD U KNOW
cinder python
@viscid quartz Did you find it useful to do the reverse tree?
proper musk
He'll be the one coming to Germany actually, for studies, and I promised to buy him ramen because he loves it :P
I'm curious about that too
viscid quartz
@cinder python On the one hand the exercises are more challenging, but on the other the tree is smaller, so I'm not sure the advantage is that significant
That sounds like the perfect opportunity @proper musk 😸
hollow sinew
@proper musk Netflix with German subtitles? That's one of my favourite things to do when it comes to learning 😄
Buuut sometimes if you switch to German audio they might not be the very same with subtitles so be careful with that ^^
proper musk
Yup I've noticed that
So I prefer to stick with just one of them
For now my focus is to get used to everyday speech and read long texts, so subtitles it is.
Later for audio I'll just watch German original movies/series
At least that's how I do it :P
hollow sinew
Good plan! 😄
proper musk
Danke :)
I think there is an app that's a bit like this?
But it was about news, let me see if I can find it
This one
soft depot
I didn't know about this app, need to try it!
carmine canopy
I know this isn't german specific, but it's help me kinda plan my learning a bit more and thought it'd be a good thing for new learners to see (in reference to most common words)
carmine canopy
That sounds about right
cerulean coyote
I saw that
I have another post which kind of breaks down languages so they dont seem so huge
once you learn these like 600 words you are ready for conversation
thin violet
I know ~1500 words and I can't have conversations
cinder python
You really know 1500 words? 🤔
I have no idea how many words I know 🤔 Probably fewer than that though
open girder
henbri knows B-level number of words
cinder python
@open girder Quite the opposite, my vocab is awful. It's my grammar that's approaching B
astral fulcrum
what do you all think is the best resource for prepostions and learning the different cases?
ocean sail
Oh this is a good question
cinder python
95% of people will probably miss one or more classes and lose the refund 👀
viscid quartz
Lots of people will indeed, but if you are sure you won't miss any it's a pretty good deal 😸
viscid quartz
hollow sinew
Just to be clear
50 cents for 90 classes
And if you miss one you dont get your 50 cents?
I'm a lil confused here
cinder python
No, its 300 bucks if you miss a class
That's for the half marathon, almost 600 for the full one
reef pendant
any chance anyone still has a copy of the Hueber Große Übungsbuch? I was about halfway through it and lost both my progress and my files after screwing up a repartition like a noob. now the file isn't available anymore
reef pendant
I was able to find the file elsewhere on the internet. it was one of those situations though where you have to click through several different ad pages in order to get the download link. I'm guessing the file linked to in the resources doc was taken down due to copyright reasons, plus I don't really know of a good way to host it myself. it does still exist though. pm me if you're interested in a copy
ocean sail
Hey guys! I was wondering if anyone knew good apps to learn a languages (not particularly German, just languages in general) and that may be a little easier than duolingo. Something a kid might use
astral fulcrum
@ocean sail memrise isn't half bad
barren bone
carmine canopy
tiny abyss
is it useful ?
flint epoch
I’m going to type out all my resources that I bought and be posting them on here so that you all can benefit from them. I’ll only be posting in german though. It will most likely be Microsoft word documents.
I’m posting this here so that I can hold myself accountable. Hopefully you guys can also push / motivate me. I’d appreciate it
flint epoch
I will have 1,000 German sentences by the end of the day typed. I will post them soon. I am at 598.
tiny abyss
what level are you?
flint epoch
absolute beginner
but I have books that I think everybody could benefit from. I would say more of a beginner actually. I can read and have basic conversation.
@tiny abyss
carmine canopy
DuoLingo vs MemRise?
untold tusk
Hello.
hidden geode
lingvist
untold tusk
So i am coming straight outta General and I wanted to ask if anyone here knows some websites, documents or books that are maybe even for free which I could use to teach some German to my friends?
carmine canopy
Ist Lingvist besser?
hidden geode
nicht unbedingt aber mir gefällt es besser
tiny abyss
still waitin ^^ @flint epoch
flint epoch
@tiny abyss I posted the link about 20 min ago in writing and learning
Lemme see if I can post it here on my phone
cerulean coyote
flint epoch
Casca reviewed it. Thanks for checking up and keeping me accountable lol
cerulean coyote
My link is mostly grammar books in Germanic languages
but should be good enough to start
flint epoch
Wow, is there a way I can save that onto my personal google drive??? I’m not very tech savvy, I. Think I need to do this from home on the computer
open girder
@untold tusk Hammer is one of the most comprehensive books. You can find it in the resources.
In the pinned messages in this channel there is a link to a Google Doc which has a link to it and more resources.
untold tusk
Thanks
hollow sinew
Is "Hammer" too in depth? I found myself getting stuck and confused a few times @open girder
sand marten
it's a grammar book. It's supposed to be used for reference, not as a thing to read through (a textbook/coursebook)
misty valve
Yeah, Hammer is basically what you want to use to look up some technical rule of grammar, or a literary concept (like weird sentence structures and stuff), or anything that another source doesn't really cover. But if you are learning about cases, conjugation, any basic stuff that you'd expect to find in a course, there's always a better resource for that specific purpose. Most of the other grammar books in #resources are better for that.
The pdfs of Basic/Intermediate German and Modern Grammar all have exercises you can do as well, afaik. So that's a plus. (:
hexed glacier
i suggest dreyer - schmitt 's yellow book
hollow sinew
@misty valve gets it, thanks man!
hexed glacier
i showed that to a German Language Teacher he found lots of weirdy mistakes on that book. dunno if its possible or not but that was way weird
carmine canopy
hey everyone, I'm looking for handsouts or exercises on possesive adjectives (nominative and accusative), does anyone have anything they could share? I've a test on Saturday x_x
unkempt sinew
here is a page that has tons of handouts and practice stuff, maybe you can find something:
looks like they got something for you:
carmine canopy
THANKS SO MUCH ❤
dense jungle
hiiii
marble veldt
In England the BBC does a daily news summary for children called "Newsround" on its children's channel CBBC. Is there a similar thing in Germany/Austria for their children?
carmine canopy
regal mango
Wann sprechst du Engelsch?
dense jungle
nie
regal mango
Ich verstehe
upbeat plover
gr Gaming
unkempt sinew
The bot ignores this channel @upbeat plover
upbeat plover
@unkempt sinew thanks I figured it out . I couldn't find the bot channel at first
unkempt sinew
Ah ok 😅
slow flume
Bienen summen = summ summ.
Vögel zwitschern = tswit, tswit.
Katzen miauen = miau, miau.
Küken = piep piep.
Kühe muhen = mmuuh.
Krähen krächzen = kwrah, kwrah.
Kuckucke schreien = kuckuck.
Hund bellen = wau wau / wuff wuff.
Tauben gurren = guru, guru.
Esel "iahen" = iaah, iaah.
Enten quaken = quack, quack.
Elefanten trompeten = trörö.
Frösche quaken = quaak, quaak.
Ziegen meckern = mähh, mähh.
Hühner, Hennen gackern = gak, gak.
Pferde wiehern = hü-ü-ü-ü-ü.
Mäuse piepsen = piep, piep.
Eulen heulen = huuh, huuh.
Hähne krähen = kickeriki.
Schafe blöken = bähh, bähh.
German Onomatopoeia^^
carmine canopy
It's because, this channel doesn't work so I try another one
it doesnt work?
Have you notice that I'm the very last who posted something here and nothing after me
well yeah
that does happen sometimes
I wouldnt expect anyone to comment on it regardless
I try to find the right place to post my request but it seems that it's not the good place
I ask people to find a good place and someone told me to post on Discord but it doesn't work
Can you recommend a good place to join motivated people to practice?
discord
proper musk
Drops is a kewl app
Lots of languages besides German, no keyboard required, great for vocabulary learning (nouns with article + useful verbs)
You can complete each theme (clothes, sport, food, technology, and many others) in 5 minutes
tiny abyss
all I want is lingvist not being premium ;-;
boreal path
Did you ever want to know how to correctly address people in German? Don't worry, the government got you covered, with this 170 page document! https://www.protokoll-inland.de/SharedDocs/Downloads/PI/DE/Allgemeines/Anschriften.pdf?__blob=publicationFile
ruby cobalt
klar 👌
boreal path
Personal Favorite: "Genehmigen Eure Heiligkeit den Ausdruck meiner ehrerbietigen Hochachtung"
soft depot
Is Tinycards (the flashcards application from Duolingo) efficient?
proper musk
No
@soft depot it doesn't work, it has a question feature but it's really retarded, don't bother
soft depot
Oh well
proper musk
You waste more time creating the flashcards than using them
soft depot
Should I rather go to anki then?
hollow sinew
^I agree, Tinycards aren't that efficient
proper musk
Yup Anki is nice
soft depot
Ok then, thank you^^
delicate glade
Anki ist ausgezeichnet
pine glade
How many of you would recommend Duolingo?
slow flume
0 / 10 Serious Language Learners recommen Duo
smoky hinge
@pine glade when you're really at the beginning of the language, I'd recommend it to try out. Once you're past A2 level (or even A1+) Duo is child's play and you don't really learn from it much
hexed glacier
u can always learn new words with that
sand marten
Yeah enjoy having to grind two weeks to get to words you'll actually use. And then enjoy not being able to use them because all you learned in those weeks was how to win duolingo
unkempt sinew
here is a web page with an introduction into the German sign language:
http://www.gebaerdenlernen.de/index.php?article_id=1
and here is an online dictionary for sign languages all over the world:
http://www.spreadthesign.com/de/
@sand marten
sand marten
is your browser in swedish, by any chance? 🤔
unkempt sinew
no, but i noticed the swedish too ^^
sand marten
lol
unkempt sinew
Das Projekt wird von der Europäischen Kommission durch das Schwedische Büro für Internationale Programme in Erziehung und Ausbildung unterstützt.
btw, here's a link to a playlist for the tv program Sehen statt Hören with and for deaf people:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJycPX8gdjA&list=PLP4hePAK6Tv6X1ZzLdbc_jLws5DyjQI-M
sand marten
you're a dear
unkempt sinew
i just really like watching it ^^
carmine canopy
Lol
carmine canopy
Hello ! Have a nice day and a good mood!
carmine canopy
heavy horizon
I just have to add these two:
"Wieso? - Why?"
"Weshalb? - Why?"
arctic gull
Those who use LingQ, plz. Is there a way to find lessons in order? I only get the ones people liked, but I can't see them in order
slow flume
Yes@arctic gull there is
arctic gull
i'd appreciate if you were more... specific lol
like whether I can see the whole series or if there are any "official" ones
slow flume
@arctic gull
click that and you can activate what i have open (course library)
also whats your lingq name, ill friend you
barren island
does anyone know a good resource to explain the 4 cases? (nominative, dative, genitiv, and accusative)
mental tapir
I need one too
cinder python
@slow flume Do you have a specific course to recommend?
slow flume
To be honest I've been through almost all so I don't know for sure. But there is one I really like @cinder python
I'll find it later
slow flume
@cinder python Der Chemie Reporter
cinder python
@slow flume Thanks! ^^
fervent tendon
@carmine canopy If you're brand new to the language you could try Duolingo, but some here consider it a bad source. Sauerstoff ^^ recommends LingQ, which I'm using now, but I think it's only good if you get premium which is like $10 a month
carmine canopy
I use duolingo. It is nice for vocabulary.
fervent tendon
Yea it's a good start, I'm thinking of going back to Duo just to improve with different sites
unkempt sinew
barren island
oh thanks lol
alpine leaf
May be a silly question, but does anyone know of any resources for an A1-A2 to practice speaking? Duolingo doesn't cut it for me unfortunately!
carmine canopy
copper siren
muted gyro
guys i would like to get a book for A1 level, any suggestions ?
urban gorge
@alpine leaf Memrise works for me than Duolingo
alpine leaf
It handles speaking too??
urban gorge
No
You may listen via Podcast on iPhone
If that helps!
And speaking, not sure! But the Memrise speaks their words in German and translates after
You might wanna check that out 😉
open girder
I made a vocab list for shopping that anyone else can steal if they wish to: https://germanlearningresources.blogspot.de/2018/01/vocabulary-for-shopping_9.html
If you~re interested, I am going to be regularly making themed vocabulary lists and posting them on that blog (as I need a more contexual vocabulary)
carmine canopy
get role Level B
carmine canopy
Oh Danke
indigo junco
@carmine canopy Sorry though, I can't see you as B1 though. Your word order is way too off and sometimes I don't even understand what you mean, that's why I think you're still A, then you're your own judge. 🤔
carmine canopy
Ok ich werde jemanden mehr hier fragen für die opinion zu erstellen
sand marten
ich stimme Flops zu. Du musst mehr über deine Grammatik üben.
carmine canopy
Ich warte für admin decision.
cinder python
I don't think the admins care about that ...
You really don't seem B though, sorry to say
carmine canopy
Ich verstehe gar nicht.
sudden forum
Yeah, I have to agree. Judging from what I could see, your grammar doesn't really seem up to B1 standards just yet. Besides, this isn't really the place to have that conversation.
indigo junco
True.
hexed glacier
die entscheidung von dem Admin****
carmine canopy
der Admins*
and nah, Im sorry but I doubt you're B
Im going to clean this chat, once you've read it, Steve
hexed glacier
Ich warte für admin decision. sagte er , kein Plural xD
barren island
anyone gotta resource for remembering german grammar?
full vessel
what kind?
barren island
verb conjunctuation mostly
full vessel
trick №1 is to use it a whole lot
like a WHOLE lot
barren island
xd i try
barren island
ah maybe not verb conjunctiaon
more like dein, sein, ihr, sie, Sie
and how to use those in sentences and what to change in a sentence to match the,
them*
basically anything with sentence structure.
that is haaarrrrdd stuuuuff
i'll give you an example, like, i dont know if i should say fur mich for, for me, or something else
full vessel
yeah just use it a lot
for specific things you can sometimes come up with tricks, but I don't think there is anything general
example would help
barren island
it stinks because i dont know exactly what i dont know, so its hard to find stuff on it
lol...
i would say for "i got to my house", "ich gehe zu meine hause"
but im positive thats wrong
misty valve
This conversation is better held in #questions but can you explain your thought process of why you would write it that way?
nova fiber
Could anyone recomend me a german podcast? I'm interested in games, science, technology. Got any recomendations?
indigo junco
carmine canopy
vielen dank
indigo junco
👌
unkempt sinew
@nova fiber have a look at the links in the r/German wiki:
prisma flax
Do try Coffee Break German
sand marten
Yeah I remember that being fun. I can't remember if I actually ended up memorizing anything from it but it sure let me engage into the language more
remote egret
I like Slow German Podcast mit Annik Rubens.
carmine canopy
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B7T-GiQZK0Uyc0Q5VUZ2b1hSOEU My google drive with pirated books. Enjoy. I upload new books sometimes.
manic hill
open girder
I found subtitles for Türkisch für Anfänger, if anyone wants to read them (better if you do so after watching an episode) http://www.diemitdemforum.de/viewforum.php?f=48
cinder python
Have these people not heard of .srt? 🤔
open girder
Can you read .srt like a text file?
mortal tiger
ja
carmine canopy
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1oj7L7DG_aM4S84V4lTWN-XuMEwSHoQqw J.R.R. Tolkien - Sammlung 12 Ebooks
carmine canopy
Vocab might be quite difficult sometimes
but its easy to understand
the main idea
viscid yew
indigo junco
indigo junco
hehe I know, it was the night when I wrote that 😅
carmine canopy
I changed the brightness in the final version
soft depot
A funny instructive website for basic german grammar revolving around the theme of Grimm tales : https://coerll.utexas.edu/gg/gr/index.html?si=no
prisma flax
It's cool.
warm lagoon
yo! posted a while back some presentations and homework sheets from my beginners class. i have updated this now for my "plus" class, if anyone is interested in slides or practices. super a1 stuff: https://drive.google.com/open?id=0BxxYTdJqxU-3aXJfY1p1VndKcWc
sand marten
does anyone have good resources / study material for the C2 Goethe Institut test? I found some stuff on their official site but it's not much and it doesn't seem to even have the answers :\
sacred jewel
Not even a resource but a cool instagram page with word illustration artworks 😄 :
carmine canopy
Danke!
rain condor
http://www.spassamlesenverlag.de/html/img/pool/Leseprobe_in_80_Tagen.pdf
A simple German text for practise
carmine canopy
Sehr mühelos. Danke! :)
cerulean coyote
Anyone know of a website that gives example sentences when you put a word into it? I've been using Linguee but it doesn't always do the job.
ocean sail
Hey guys I wanted to know, do you guys know if there's any discord like this but for Dutch? And also if there are any apps that offer Dutch courses?
((Please @ me if u do))
unkempt sinew
@ocean sail here is a list of a lot of language learning discords and there is a dutch one too (although i have never been there myself)
ocean sail
thank u!
violet cobalt
German spongebob made a couple albums
If you want you can check them out on YouTube
Might count as practice
jolly valve
Thanks dude
pure bolt
all of them?
neat scroll
yep
pure bolt
so the websites, and youtube vids and google docs
carmine canopy
I can access them, are you behind a VPN by any chance or is your ISP blocking traffic to mega?
cedar wave
That's really weird
lament mauve
i need a flashcard app x-x
sand marten
anki is free o.O
nimble flame
not for ios afaik
sand marten
sucks for apple users I guess ¯_(ツ)_/¯
white lagoon
Привет
lunar perch
...Привет?
white lagoon
Hello
lunar perch
Wassup?
white lagoon
Zdravtsvute, ich spreche Russisch.
lunar perch
Я могу говорить чуть-чуть но я не думаю я очень хорошо.
hollow sinew
tiny abyss
when did I join the cyka learning channel
prisma flax
Really good for practice, also has a list of prepositions and which nouns go with which prepositions and many more.
prisma flax
I don't know but I just collected a few stuff, might not be all correct but here you go :
an - at, next to, against (vertical)
am + day/part of day
am Morgen, am 14. Juli, am Wochenende, am Dienstag
an + Gewässer
am See, am Meer, am Strand
in - in, into
Usually used for closed buildings
im + month/season
im Januar, im Februar, im Juli
in + indoor buildings (usually)
im Kino, in der Schule, im Krankenhaus
im + Himmelsrichtungen
im Süden, im Osten, im Norden, im Westen
in + parties of a country
im Bundesland,im Inland,in der Gegend,im Land,im
Staat
in + closed transportation (90%)
im Zug, im Auto, im Boot, im Taxi, in der S-Bahn, in der U-Bahn, im Flugzeug
um - at (time)
um + hour
Um 14. Uhr bin ich aus dem Kino zurückgekommen.
auf - on
auf + open transportation (90%)
im Fahrrad, im Motorrad, im Schiff, in der Fähre
zu — to
zu + professional (wohin?)
zum Arzt, zum Chef, zum Notar
bei - at, near
bei + professional (wo?)
beim Arzt, beim Chef, beim Notar, beim Frisör
AUSNAHMEN :
in -
Garten, Weg, Park, Zoo, Schwimmbad, Bergen, Wald, Gebirge, Regal
an -
Wand, Treffpunkt, Ort, Bord (an Bord = on board)
auf -
Klo, Turm, Treppe, Speicher, Toilette, Balkon,
Terasse, Sofa, Regal, Weg, Berg, Baustelle, Insel,
Land (auf dem Land = on the countryside)
zu -
zu Hause (•)
nach -
nach Hause (• -> •)
Sorry if mistaken.
Btw it's all formed in wo? (almost)
safe relic
rustic mica
is linvist kinda like anki but more guided?
rustic mica
oops sorry yeah
I was trying it out for german and I liked it a bit more than duolingo cause it's like you gotta try before you see any options
though obviously comes with a cost but tbh if I am going to devote time I don't want to be a year down the road and like man if I had found an app to actually challenge me more then I would be so much better off
digital turtle
i mean
Its a really good way to learn vocabulary. It goes by frequency so you learn important words first
The only issue is that some of it can get business oriented for some reason.. but either way its great to learn vocabulary in context.
Also, dont buy the premium yet, they just introduced it and its not worth it
50 new words a day is already more than enough, and you need to be getting vocab from multiple sources anyways
rustic mica
yeah i'll prob just combine duo and lingvist for now
ATM i'm learning german and japenese and not sure how well it'll go but so far since i'm taking time out of my day it's kinda nice to go through both lists
and they're very distinct
and gonna go see what resources library has
onyx heath
ı tried to it ı think if you dont start kanji youll be ok @rustic mica
i tried to do it*
rustic mica
What you mean
onyx heath
kanji requires you to study in a daily basis
rustic mica
I already did this learn Japanese thing to learn hiragana and katakana
But yeah, kanji is daunting
But I'd mostly want to speak anyway
onyx heath
hiragana katakana is enough for a lot of time
i reccomend memrise for hiragana and katakana even ıf you learned all of them ıts a good way of practicing ı learned them ın 2 days with memrise
hushed leaf
What are some good Youtube channels with subtitles? I just found Learn German with Anja, it looks pretty good
unkempt sinew
hollow sinew
Does anybody use LingQ Premium here?
hushed leaf
Thanks Nemoses!
native mortar
German with Jenny is quite good as well
cerulean coyote
and German with Ania
hushed leaf
Thanks :)
carmine canopy
- German with Jenny and Easy German, the ones mentioned above, are the ones I use lately. Plus Coffee Break German podcasts (and I subscribed to their Reading Club as well, for free, on the radiolingua site)
and of course Duolingo and Memrise
soft depot
Donttrusttherabbit is pretty cool too
reef pendant
after realizing how difficult Lückentexte are for me, I did some searching and finally came up with this generator from Goethe Institut. It's exactly what I was looking for, and depending on how you source your text and which settings you choose, it's even more difficult than the Lückentexte I've seen on practice B2 exams, making it a perfect way to study for them. http://www.goethe.de/lhr/prj/usg/deindex.htm
sand marten
brilliant
stoic parcel
I'm looking for good resources so I can start learning German by myself. I'm not gonna start learning with a teacher until next month, so what is a good starting point if I know nothing about German language?
I prefer books or things that I can read over videos
misty valve
Check out the link in the channel topic, Gail.
Try the pdf for Basic German. It's probably a good place to start.
And the worksheets and information sheets at http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar.html are a good way to start practicing.
But there are a lot of cool resources in that list, so just have a browse.
stoic parcel
Yeah, having so many resources just made me confused so I thought that it'd be better to ask 😅
Thanks 😀
median surge
signal scroll
Do you guys know any good places I can get some B1-ish level poems in german?
sand marten
poems aren't usually graded 🤔
although!
I found this. It might be lower than B1 since they're intended for children, but they're poems and they're for native children so who knows
slow flume
um Grammatik zu lernen
robust widget
Ja
misty valve
To learn grammar, the best way is a combination of reading text books (or similar) and writing/speaking a lot and getting corrections.
robust widget
Thank you
hollow sinew
While I was researching for stuff, I found this link, may be useful for those who struggle with verbs+prepositions/cases
https://de.pons.com/daten/pdf/Praxis-Grammatik/01_Verben_mit_Praepositionen.pdf
open girder
some manga in German that I found: https://manga-tube.me/
hmm, they even seem to get some manga translated quicker than English sites
carmine canopy
B2-C1 learners, check out the new book I uploaded. It's the second part of the best grammar book - Grammatik Aktiv.
digital turtle
Oh my god I love you
I was about to buy it
I got the first one while i was in germany and its great
brazen ledge
Is the first one posted above?
carmine canopy
@brazen ledge Yes, in the search box just put “from: foxxerl in: resources” if you type out foxxerl’s name just click it and it’ll give you her id
i’d paste the link directly but i’m on mobile and i can’t, sadly
@carmine canopy Thank you!
brazen ledge
Thanks!
carmine canopy
You're welcome. Pray to your slavic queen of resources.
ripe mulch
hey guys, I'm an absolute beginner at german learning prodominantly from duolingo. One big flaw I find with duolingo is it doesn't really explain the grammatical rules very well, and just shows you examples until you figure it out yourself. Is there a site you guys would recommend that would explain these things? The sorts of things I have problems with are when die/das/der change depending on where the object is in a sentence e.g. changing to den, or eine to einen.
opaque fulcrum
nthuleen? pretty sure they have an exercise for accusative and dative stuff
ripe mulch
cool, I'll check it out, thanks
carmine canopy
Another good alternative/complement to Duolingo would be Lingvist in my opinion. It gives you 50 new words to learn per day on the free version, and has grammar tips and explanations (during your exercises, but can also be accessed on its own insie the app).
To be fair, most language apps focus more on vocabulary than anything else. Nthuleen is also a good site but I haven't used it a lot yet. I mostly listen to the Coffee Break German podcast, do Duolingo, Memrise (very limited on the free version though), and Lingvist for vocab, as well as read the pdfs provided on this channel
I only started learning / practising German very seriously earlier this month (around 20 days now on Duolingo, which I use as a marker to know how long I've been at it), and I can say I am set on most basic grammar rules and it's starting to become more natural for me. A lot of people on this server have been really helpful as well
misty valve
This may help you learn the article declension, Tone-E: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jWl5-kkqF3FQLDzrz8XLBJj7hvPFQK7MT5SYEDGK65E/edit
But it's worth pointing out that most information can be found simply by Googling it.
Or just browse all the links in the resources list until you find the relevant topics.
(You'll find there isn't really one good source for learning all grammar for all levels)
proper musk
Idk if this counts as a resource but this book called Sadako is relatively easy to read if you're around B1. It's based on the real life Sadako which I'm sure you know the story
sand marten
i don't
hushed basin
one, what’s Sadako
two, what’s b1
sand marten
a, b, c are the CEFR levels of proficiency in foreign languages
least to most proficient
hushed basin
c is the lowest i presume?
sand marten
the opposite
hushed basin
ah ok
loud heron
https://youtu.be/W3JAVVfW0rA Here's some audio from 'German CD intensive language course'. It's unlisted, but still may get taken down for copyright...
proper musk
unique obsidian
where's a good place to start from scratch?
unique obsidian
ok, thanks
river shale
Maybe a dumb question, but can I download e-books from Libgen without getting a ticket when I'm in Germany?
candid flame
That’s beautiful ❤
empty bison
You can but use a vpn and use a public network like a cafe or a library
naive dawn
whats a good site to learn the prepositions
unique ledge
notes on Konjunktiv II (cbell wrote some of it 👀)
open girder
@thin violet thievery in progress
weak violet
Ich wünschte, dass ich Deutch sprechen kann? or?
I thought that was how you say it but im a2 at best
misty valve
Plebean, in this case, it's the same as in English. "I wish that I could speak German." not "I wish that I can speak German."
weak violet
Thank you
wintry vine
sand marten
yes
rich violet
Website for German radio station operated by Italian government for broadcasting in a German speaking region (Südtirol, borders with Austria). For the news, they speak really slowly. Like seriously. Really nice for listening IMO because it's easier to hear each word.
http://www.raisudtirol.rai.it
carmine canopy
carmine canopy
Here is a German text for those who want to improve their reading skills and want to build up their vocabulary
thorn trench
Around 2500-3000 words for beginners
I've used some python scripts to put them together, so that's why they're in txt format and some characters may be wrong. The source uses "r n" for "m" often (IDK why), you can see that in gender part of nouns.
karmic flare
brazen ledge
That is so hard to read.
swift wigeon
Also it's definitely just an auto-conversion
Many unfixed typoes
Gluck for Glück
Spat3 for Spaß
and then also Spai0e 🤣
this is essentially unusable as is, unfortunately 😦
brazen ledge
It is a very meme program.
swift wigeon
j3 ❤
hollow sinew
that weird B
brazen ledge
ss
swift wigeon
@karmic flare Those are the things guyness posted right
ſs
ſz
ok yeah it is
@thorn trench I hate to inform you of this, but those txts (at least your "nouns" one) are full of misspellings (most notably missing umlauts 👀) from the python script, and also misformatted, so essentially unusable to learn. 😦
AuBenseite
open girder
@karmic flare here is something similar, but just for verbs: https://www.memrise.com/course/1552402/500-verbs-sorted-by-frequency-from-tv/
memrise has many more similar courses
stuck lark
Thanks @open girder I’m working on the 5000 words by frequency, so this verb list would be a good complement
thorn trench
Wow, when I open it, it is one word per line. I am sorry, I'll try to fix it as much as I can 😌
carmine canopy
I'm pretty sure that Windows' regular editor is just bad and removes formatting lines
looks like this for me
thorn trench
Putting it to .doc file may work.
carmine canopy
there's still some things which might require work, though
and yeah
or PDF
hmm
sleek holly
Notepad only recognizes \r\n as a line separator. If you have just \n, Notepad will tell you to fok yourself. WordPad works if you don't have anything else.
thorn trench
I've found this playlist from Oregon State University Ecampus: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL2fCGQa2PY7CDJkKsRiYNC-7XxiU4I10f
cinder python
Isn't Wordpad notorious for throwing in a bunch of invisible symbols and fucking up your file? 🤔
carmine canopy
Reading text for German learners
thin violet
someone on reddit posted this link with an A-level story. what's interesting is that someone recorded it with a really great narration.
the second one is too big for uploading. if you liked the first, here's where i found the second: https://www.reddit.com/r/German/comments/83g0gv/would_anyone_be_willing_to_make_an_audio/
surreal timber
http://www.nthuleen.com/teach/grammar.html you can practice your grammar here
next nebula
Hello does anyone have a copy of this book? Can anybody share some files? Thank you.
wise viper
vital yarrow
green moon
Guys ı need a exam pdfs for practice or work sheets 🙏🏻 ıf you know like this recouces plesa tell me 🌸
misty valve
Did you check the link in the channel topic?
clever geode
I made this chart: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1jabOszCn_tCN1qYyljUvbScEG4PCb2S920WCY_Jbzss/edit?usp=sharing
open girder
@clever geode what about adjectives without articles
clever geode
i think you use the ein one
open girder
nope, different system
clever geode
well, i saw no chart for that
open girder
me give you one, one sec
clever geode
but thanks for finding fault in it
stoic moon
do you guys know of any small books that are meant for children? like for a little vocabulary and stuff. In my school when they wanted us to learn english they used some cambridge collection that was for like 5 year olds
nova bay
green moon
Danke schön 🌸🌸🌸🌸
stoic moon
Thanks!
hollow sinew
Do you guys know any German comic books to binge?
sand marten
webcomics or just comics?
hollow sinew
Doesn’t matter tbh
hollow sinew
I’m not thaaaat much into mangas but I’ll give it a try Pferdie
open girder
it's a type of comic
hollow sinew
But I wanted something like Marvel or DC
sand marten
then just buy the german translation of those :S
humble meadow
Hey guys i was wondering, does anyone know of a website that has news articles that are not terribly hard to understand in german? My old teacher showed us one website but i dont remember it. I am looking for relatively short articles (or just anything) to read, no longer than 1 page. I am planning to start reading daily so i dont get fucked in my exams 😄
sudden forum
http://www.nachrichtenleicht.de/ This website is pretty good from what I've heard. Maybe that's the one you had in mind?
http://www.dw.com/de/deutsch-lernen/nachrichten/s-8030 Here's another one where they read the news out for you slowly
humble meadow
Thanks to both of you, the first one Chuck linked was the one my teacher showed me i think! 😃 I will take a look at all the links tho. Thanks a lot!
sudden forum
You're welcome!
surreal timber
https://www.pons.de/daten/pdf/Praxis-Grammatik/04_Verben_mit_Dativ-_und_Akkusativobjekt.pdf could be useful, I know I'll be using it often (tells you which verbs are with dativ and which with akkusativ)
lilac geyser
reee
carmine canopy
prisma flax
Hey I wanna ask, other than ..., weil es zu heiß und feucht draußen ist., can you use ..., weil es draußen zu heiß und feucht ist.?
Does the position of draußen make the sense of a sentence different?
primal isle
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primal isle
ah, and doesn’t change the meaning at all
prisma flax
okie dokie 😃
primal isle
btw, I find the second version a teeny tiny bit more natural
prisma flax
okay done.
slow flume
yes second sounds better
rose burrow
Hi can someone explain me the gender of the object das, der and die? I just learned it and I quite don’t get it
open girder
@rose burrow This question is better suited to #questions
rose burrow
@open girder okay thank you!
surreal timber
Maybe this will help someone just a little bit
carmine moss
is there a book that has vocab, grammar and numbers