how do you say "I`m a pescatarian"
#lessons
shell tundra
hallow socket
Is ich mag with a k sound?
@hollow narwhal Also wanna know this
high mantle
Yes
high mantle
if at the end:
g, d, b -> k, t, p
mystic dune
Ich esse chow mein
dark garnet
Ich esse nichts
hallow socket
Ich esse Müsli gerade
wary heart
ich will auch chow mein essen
cobalt forum
@high mantle kind of, mögen ->mag -> mak , the g/k gets "harder" (at least for me)
flat helm
dieser Jung isst 🅱️ ohnen
wanton sandal
Mein Lieblingsessen ist Erdbeeren
wary heart
diese Katze frisst ein bisschen Salami
coral lantern
@high mantle yeah, most people don't even know the nature of the final consonant until the word changes, like los -> lose - it has a voiced s - they pronounce it as a voiceless s anyway.
graceful island
gerade esse ich gar nix.
hallow socket
Ist dein Ligbliengsessen Nodeln?
scarlet breach
||Der Zucker ist suß||
mystic dune
Was ist Zucker?
dark garnet
Sugar
hallow socket
Das Schmeck mir 
scarlet breach
sugar
fiery ember
mein lieblingsessen ist Schokolade Pudding-Eis. es schmeckt immer gut.
flat helm
Ich mag keinen Knoblauch, wenn es in meinem Eis ist
mild canyon
||ich esse suppe||
graceful island
Knoblauch?
high mantle
@Banned and Bullied / Nomsimp kind of, mögen ->mag -> mak , the g/k gets "harder" (at least for me)
What do you mean here @cobalt forum ?
odd tree
Mein lieblings essen ist die nudeln aber zum Fruhstuck esse ich das Musli
scarlet breach
||Das Nudeln schmecken gut||
mystic dune
||Ich esse gern Aepfel||
flat helm
its on the wordlist lillie
graceful island
rip
umbral fog
zum Frühstück esse ich Brot mit Käse und tea Zum Mittagessen esse ich Sandwich Oder Salat Mein Lieblingsessen ist tajin xD
wary atlas
Frühstück
dark garnet
||Am Frühstück habe ich Milch und Eier.||
hallow socket
Ich esse gern Pizza
odd tree
ok
wary atlas
ü = ue
graceful island
ewwww knoblauch in Eis 
cobalt forum
@high mantle mag and mak is not quite the same for me, there is a gradient
wary atlas
Fruehstueck
high mantle
Ah, I see 
scarlet breach
if you have windows you can add a second keyboard language and swap between it with Alt+Shift
wary atlas
Müsli or Muesli
flat helm
Zum Frühstück hab ich Müsli mit Bananen gegessen
scarlet breach
ö ö ä ß
odd tree
Mein lieblings essen ist die nudeln aber zum Frühstück esse ich das Müsli?
dark garnet
Am Frühstück oder zum Frühstück
scarlet breach
||Die Nudeln schmecken gut||
coral lantern
if you talk about eating something specific during Mittagessen, you would say "zu(m) Mittag esse ich...". Double essen sounds repetitive.
wary atlas
Frühstück
odd tree
ahhh
wanton sandal
Ich esse gerne Äpfel
graceful island
zum früstück hab ich Käse und Bananen gegessen 🧀 🍌
wary atlas
zum
scarlet breach
Mein Leiblingsmahl ist zweites Abendessen
flat helm
Käse und Bananen zusammen hört sich eklig an
dark garnet
umbral fog
zum Frühstück esse ich Brot mit Käse und Tee
Zum Mittag esse ich ein Sandwich Oder einen Salat
Mein Lieblingsessen ist Tajin xD
Is it correct now?
cobalt forum
@flat helm ...hört sich eklig an
dark garnet
Tea is Tee
coral lantern
ein Sandwich oder einen Salat*
the tea = der Tee
Tajin, as it's apparently a noun
graceful island
Käse und Bananen zusammen klingt mir ekelhaft
Weil es ekelhaft ist
cobalt forum
Mit Köse überbackene Banane
wary atlas
Tee
umbral fog
Thanks
wary heart
can i confirm again, zum Frühstück = during breakfast?
oh!
thanks
am Frühstück is in general at breakfast?
shell tundra
What about "Fur Frühstück "
wary atlas
während des Frühstücks / beim Frühstücken = during breakfast / while eating breakfast
cobalt forum
Beim (Beim Frühstück lese ich die Zeitung)
wary heart
like an event?
umbral fog
"Beim Frühstück Ich höre Musik oder Podcast "
coral lantern
höre ich Musik oder einen Podcast
cobalt forum
("oder Podcasts", as a general concept)
coral lantern
yeah
wary heart
👌 k
dark garnet
Some practices?
fiery ember
its the weekend for me
hallow socket
Was my first lesson it was real good, ty Basementality
odd tree
kitchen
wary heart
oh, ich muss los, das ist sehr spät für mich
scarlet breach
I have to leave but thanks for the lesson!
cobalt forum
kitchen: :1️⃣ ; fruits: 2️⃣ . both 3️⃣
fiery ember
3
odd tree
3
wanton sandal
3
umbral fog
3
dark garnet
Example
hallow socket
for example
cobalt forum
z.B. (in any kind of test/exam you need the periods)
dark garnet
May I order sth for u?
hallow socket
I have to leave for now but the lesson was really good when's gonna be the next one?
wary atlas
Same time next week.
hallow socket
Perfekt, Vielen Dank
dark garnet
I would like a cup of coffee
umbral fog
Do u want to eat here?
dark garnet
Eat here?
fiery ember
something to do with eating
dark garnet
Oh take away
cobalt forum
(the 7% vs. 19% question)
mystic dune
(the 7% vs. 19% question)?
dark garnet
Yes
mystic dune
(the 7% vs. 19% question)?
dark garnet
Pay the food
cobalt forum
"Wir würden gerne zahlen" is more idiomatic IMO
coral lantern
Also people tend to shorten phrases all the time, so "Wir möchten (bitte) die Rechnung haben." would become "Die Rechnung, bitte."
"Die Rechnung bezahlen" feels a little bit redundant, since a "Rechnung" is something that is paid anyway.
cobalt forum
@mystic dune different taxes for take-away vs. sit-in-restaurant
umbral fog
We want the bill
dark garnet
pay
graceful island
to pay
fiery ember
pay
graceful island
check please
flat helm
uhhh.. check please
cobalt forum
||cutlery||
dark garnet
Cooker? Dining tools?
graceful island
solo cup
dark garnet
Mit der Schale und dem Löffel.
muted sky
plastic disposable?
graceful island
idk if other countries call them solo cups
coral lantern
das Geschirr = dishes
das Besteck = cutlery
Tasse has a handle, Becher doesn't have one.
dark garnet
Geschirr means both dishes ( cuisines ) and plates dishes?
coral lantern
as in plates and such
dark garnet
Ok thx
wary atlas
die Schüssel
graceful island
schlüsselschüssel 🗝️ 🥣
coral lantern
die Pfanne has a double n, so the a has to be short
dark garnet
The man eat soup for what
cobalt forum
Natürlich habe ich meine Schlüssel in einer Schlüsselschüssel
graceful island
||Löffel||
fiery ember
what do you eat soup with
dark garnet
Mit der Schale und dem Löffel.
coral lantern
yeah, that's why replacing ß with ss can be tricky sometimes
umbral fog
Der Löffel
fiery ember
der loffel
wanton sandal
ein löffel
wary atlas
Löffel or Loeffel
cobalt forum
||Mit einem Messer kann man schneiden||
umbral fog
Cutting
graceful island
||Man schneindet steak||
umbral fog
To put butter on top of bread
dark garnet
🥢
graceful island
||Ich hätte gern eine Gabel, danke||
dark garnet
||Ich möchte die Essstäbchen||
cobalt forum
||Ich hätte gerne eine Gabel, ich kann mit Essstäbchen nicht umgehen||
dark garnet
||The eggs are already in the pan.||
graceful island
||the eggs are already in the pan||
wary atlas
Not schön but schon.
umbral fog
The eggs are cooked in the pan
flat helm
||ich würde lieber die Stäbchen benutzen||
dark garnet
Already?
mystic dune
Home
graceful island
already
flat helm
||aber abhängig von dem Essen||
coral lantern
(And I think "Schale" tends to be smaller and flatter than "Schüssel", the former is also used for decorative purposes, like displaying fruits, for example. But there is some overlap. "Schüssel" tends to be used for soups and such, even in certain varieties as tureens or containers.)
wary atlas
Mit einer Tasse Kaffee.
graceful island
||I'd like a Cup of Coffe, and she'd like a glass of water||
dark garnet
||I would like a cup of coffee and she wants a glass of water.||
umbral fog
Für mich eine Tasse Kaffee und für meinen Freund ein Glas Wein
coral lantern
meinen*
flat helm
ich würde nie für jemand anderen bestellen
graceful island
ich auch. Das ist unhöflich
flat helm
ich kann kaum für mich selbst
graceful island
lol ja
cobalt forum
"der Backofen"
coral lantern
cuisine can also be translated as Kochkunst - art of cooking
more like calling it an art^^
cobalt forum
you're slipping into ü again@wary atlas
graceful island
spüli
umbral fog
Spülbecken? I think I saw it somewhere
coral lantern
das Spülbecken
dark garnet
Waschbecken sounds easier to understand
cobalt forum
Das Spüli -> das Spülmittel
graceful island
umlauten. danke
coral lantern
Spüli is a brand, though^^ (I think)
cobalt forum
echt?
graceful island
its not uncommon for people to call things by brand names
coral lantern
I think so, let me research a bit^^
cobalt forum
"Die Spülmaschine"
graceful island
please don't put dish soap in your dishwasher
coral lantern
(apparently Spüli is just a nickname, hmm)
graceful island
maybe the brand name came from the nickname?
cobalt forum
@coral lantern hab die Verpackung über Bildersuche gefunden, gabs anscheinend tatsächlich mal...
coral lantern
to poach [an animal] = wildern
graceful island
thats wild
dark garnet
Recipe?
graceful island
dark garnet
cobalt forum
(last slide "der Teekessel"-> for a stovetop one, "der Wasserkocher" for an electric one)
graceful island
Mark suger mountain
fiery ember
mmm...😋 schokolade
graceful island
sugar*
coral lantern
German recipes tend to use exact measurements, in ml, liters, grams, kilograms, etc.
Sometimes (non-standardized) spoon measurement approximations are used. (Esslöffel, Teelöffel, Messerspitze, Prise, etc.)
wary atlas
das Rezept
graceful island
base how long is left in this lesson? I have to lave for a bit soon
cobalt forum
gehäuft/gestrichen
mystic dune
No
graceful island
yeh gemüse ist rad
coral lantern
gnarly
graceful island
sind*
wanton sandal
yes plz
coral lantern
and it's not der Kirsch, but die Kirsche
fiery ember
thanks for the lesson see you next week
cobalt forum
das Kirschwasser (cherry alcoholic drink) can be translated as "kirsch" in English
dark garnet
I’m fine with that
umbral fog
Yeah that will be great
tacit mauveBOT
wary atlas
umbral fog
My first lesson here and I really leaned a lot and enjoyed it too much .. Thank you so much and the natives who helped as well
umbral fog
How much time do u think I need to get to fluent level?
Lissent to TV and music and understand it
cobalt forum
depends on a lot of factors, how fluent, how do you learn (tutor, class, self study)....
dark garnet
And don’t forget to practice self reading out loud daily
umbral fog
I get it now thanks
My goal is 2 years
My plan is to work as engineer in IT.. I think B2 will be enough for that
Thank you so much
burnt willow
I got B1.2 after three years, but I really got into the language halfway through
So 2 years is quite a reasonable goal
coral lantern
just immerse yourself in your target language in any way possible, every day.
wary atlas
Yeah, a lot of people learn slowly in the beginning and then take it seriously later.
burnt willow
Oddly enough, my listening score (AAPPL test) was higher than my reading
umbral fog
I should make a plan for that.. Thanks all of you for your help
burnt willow
I highly suggest DW news in German
You won't understand everything, naturally
But the further you progress, you'll notice distinct words
umbral fog
Yeah I've downloaded a lot of DW and NDR documentaries and I try to watch daily
burnt willow
And even tell what words are separate from others, even if you don't know them
umbral fog
Do far I use subtitles with them but I will remove it as I progress
burnt willow
Subtitles aren't a bad tool
Though I prefer to use German ones, English ones as a starter are almost a must
burnt willow
That's even better; given grammatical differences between the languages, English subs will only take you so far
umbral fog
I'm not even a native in English.. English subs will make it even more useless
burnt willow
Well, your English certainly fooled me
wary atlas
You should definitely never use your native language or any other language you know's subtitles for a language you are learning. Your brain is super good at completely ignoring the listening part if it has something it understands.
Even if you think you are learning that way, you really get almost nothing from it.
It's always best to use either the target language's subtitles or nothing.
coral lantern
that's true
hollow narwhal
You can in the sense that you read the entire exchange or segment in your native and then listen in german
umbral fog
Yeah that's what I'm trying to do so far
wary atlas
What you get out of it is really, really minimal, Trax, and also really inefficient.
coral lantern
the only exception one could consider is truly literal translation, word-order and all
wary atlas
I mean if you want to watch something with subtitles first and then rewatch without, that's totally fine.
But the first watch isn't going to teach you anything.
hollow narwhal
Depends. I mean you're listening to a show or audio multiple times before the translation segment
coral lantern
@wary atlas Novh is yelling nazi stuff
hollow narwhal
But first go with translation doesn't quite help your brain practice
That really helps with Japanese shindeiru
Word for word
wanton sandal
sub grammar
tacit mauveBOT
<@&581851964007251968>
delicate vortex
Ich freue mich bereits auf diese Lesestunde, ich liebe dieses Buch und ich will diese schöne (und meiner Ansicht nach noch sehr relevante) Geschichte mit euch teilen
Oh ich habe vergessen es überhaupt zu erwähnen!
sacred grove
ich freue mich darauf blauerFlaschenobere 🙂
delicate vortex
Es heißt Momo von Michael Ende
sacred grove
würdest du das Buch mit uns teilen
delicate vortex
Diesmal versuche ich wieder den Bildschirm zu teilen, beim letzten mal war es nicht besonders gut gelungen, denn ich mich die ganze Zeit wie ein Roboter anhört, aber mal sehen ob es heute klappt.
Ansonsten werde ich eine Kopie des Buchs hier in Lessons hochladen damit wir noch zusammen lesen können
teal citrus
Leider werde ich während der Lesestunde am Schlafen 😦 aber viel Glück beim Lesen für alle anderen
misty verge
Ist dieser Lesestunde zum anfangen zu lesen oder weiterlesen? Ich hab das Buch aber weiss nicht ob ihr schon mal einige Seiten gelesen habt 😅
storm turret
heute ist das erste mal mit momo
misty verge
Cool, danke!
delicate vortex
Seid bereit! Zehn Minuten!
sacred grove
drifting surge
compact hemlock
O:
soft hearth
@delicate vortex vielen Dank
maiden abyss
@wary atlas I couldn't attend last weekend's lesson so I just opened the GD folder. There's three different files.
What should I read first?
maiden abyss
Oh, thanks.
hasty spire
When are lessons? 😮
wary atlas
@hasty spire Go to #botchannel and type >sessions any time to see all upcoming lessons.
hasty spire
Oh okay! thank youu
tawdry gorge
how would people feel about a spontaneous reading sesh/lesson monday or thursday
cc: @delicate vortex since you wanted a specific lesson, we could do it on those days if youre free open to others too
hollow narwhal
what will you be reading? obituaries?
delicate vortex
@tawdry gorge im keen
urban aspen
Hallo! 😁 Was ist das notwendige Niveau?
how would people feel about a spontaneous reading sesh/lesson monday or thursday
@tawdry gorge
tawdry gorge
@delicate vortex I know you are
@urban aspen wahrscheinlich B2 für die Unterricht und a2/b1 für die Lesestunde
@delicate vortex what times best suited for you
delicate vortex
Hmm i find the early morning lessons a good reason to get up, so from about 10pm in Germany is good
Or the afternoon (cet) from about 1-4pm is good too
@tawdry gorge
storm turret
@tawdry gorge Was wäre das Thema der Unterricht?
tawdry gorge
@storm turret Zustandspassiv
If we have time a little looksie at passiv alternatives again
storm turret
passive alternatives are sexy
tawdry gorge
Almost as sexy as yoi
storm turret
and yet you're stell the sexiest in the room
tawdry gorge
Two can share a title under communism baby
storm turret
very true
tawdry gorge
@delicate vortex @storm turret 11pm central European time?
storm turret
if it's a thursday yea i'll drag my ass up for that
delicate vortex
Whoop sounds good
I have class at 10am (for comparison this start time is 8am) on thurs and fri
Im happy to do an hour earlier on thurs or squeeze it in that time slot
storm turret
if you don't care about the date, just the time, take the german time, minus 4 hours, then swap the am/pm
e.g. Thursday 11pm = Thursday 7pm = Friday 7am.
delicate vortex
Makes sense
tawdry gorge
Prolly today sun
I'll see if I can do something fun Thursday too
I just do +8 hours
delicate vortex
Oh wow, i guess im getting up early then
tawdry gorge
Let's do it on Thurs for our sleepy sun
storm turret
could make stick around after and do fun stuffs
urban aspen
@urban aspen wahrscheinlich B2 für die Unterricht und a2/b1 für die Lesestunde
@tawdry gorge I'm up for the Lesestunde 😄 please let us know, thank youuuu
frigid iris
how do I learn German?
I know that being in the voice chat and trying to speak a bit helps
so I'll try that
tawdry gorge
session create Grammar 1d6h48m Heyo folks! We're going to have another session on the passiv this thursday und zwar, the sexy sexy zustandspassiv, as well as other passive alternate forms. Recommended level B1-C1
tacit mauveBOT
Okay @tawdry gorge. Your session has been scheduled for in 1 day, 6 hours and 48 minutes.
tawdry gorge
storm turret
please use #botchannel for that @weak cloak
weak cloak
Entschuldigung
untold dove
is there somewhere where i can see upcoming lessons
@boreal zealot Bottfried regularly sends messages here when there are upcoming lessons, I believe
I'm not completely sure though
wary atlas
@boreal zealot @untold dove Type >sessions in #botchannel
untold dove
Thanks, Base =)
wary atlas
Np. Btw, I recommend to read #announcements because it generally contains useful information.
boreal zealot
@wary atlas thanks
tawdry gorge
ping Grammar lesson on
Zustandspassivstarting in 10 minutes
tidal solarBOT
:ping_pong: Pong! | 227.23ms
high mantle
<@&526087863339843585> lesson on Zustandspassiv starting in 10 minutes
delicate vortex
Wow
fossil panther
oh shit is that a horko lesson
tawdry gorge
it is :D
delicate vortex
Gut gemacht bulli
high mantle
pwp
fossil panther
HORKO I MISSED U
opaque comet
Ayyy my first lesson here
delicate vortex
Bulli
glossy crag
you should put the verb at the end of the sentence
high mantle
Bluu!
graceful island
Horkie I love you :3
delicate vortex
Ich finde mein Brotmesser nicht und wir haben keine Milch... wieso muss frühstück so schwer sein...
high mantle
pat pat
delicate vortex
Frühstückszeit ❤️
graceful island
Frühstücken
delicate vortex
Gegen 7 Uhr
fossil panther
achso-
graceful island
Seben Uhr
delicate vortex
Sieben
graceful island
Seven
fossil panther
siete uhr
graceful island
7️⃣
delicate vortex
Sju
regal kestrel
Hellu hellu
delicate vortex
Hallo alya!! ❤️❤️
fossil panther
alyaaaaaaa
opaque comet
awkward silence . . .
graceful island
fossil panther
graceful island
When is bulli doing a lesson?
high mantle
outer vector
When is lillie doing a lesson?
graceful island
20/7/2021 @outer vector
outer vector
Sorry lillie. You are level A
graceful island
Hexe amazing voice 
spring parrot
hey guys sorry i cant takk now, i will just listen if thats ok
regal kestrel
remind 12mo lillie will do a lesson
graceful island
I am now, but what about in a year?
tacit mauveBOT
Okay @regal kestrel. You will be reminded in 1 year.
graceful island
no
fallen oracle
i dont know what those things are
regal kestrel
Yes
tender citrus
no
haughty laurel
Alyaa 😃
regal kestrel
Leon
outer vector
wann kann ich Fuckingnative-Niveau erreichen
boreal zealot
zustand is with sein, vorgangs is with werden
tawdry gorge
Hans bricht das Versprechen
fossil panther
das versprechen wird gebrochen?
delicate vortex
Das versprechen wurde gebrochen
tawdry gorge
Das Versprochen wird gebrochen
boreal zealot
Hans hat das Versprechen gebrochen
graceful island
Its a smexy rhym
boreal zealot
ah passiv would be
tawdry gorge
werden
glossy crag
Die versprochen werden gebrochen
high mantle
*Versprechen as noun
boreal zealot
Das Versprechen wird gebrochen
haughty laurel
Das Versprochen doesn't sound right for me
glossy crag
how do you say
regal kestrel
Hi
delicate vortex
Von Hans
tawdry gorge
sein
glossy crag
ok
tawdry gorge
sein
fallen oracle
gtg sorry
graceful island
tschüssi!
regal kestrel
Tschüss
compact hemlock
*Versprechen as noun
@high mantle ^
The noun isdas Versprechen.
Versprochenis past tense:
Ich habe/du hast/.../wir haben versprochen.
high mantle
Yes :3
boreal zealot
Der Brief ist geschrieben VS Der Brief wird geschrieben
compact hemlock
Alternatively, versprochen can also mean misspoke:
Ich habe mich versprochen -> I have misspoken.
graceful island
:c im out of water
compact hemlock
:c im out of water
@graceful island Go get some, it's important to stay hydrated.
cyan scarab
das Auto ist reparieret
compact hemlock
Then that's okay. ^^
graceful island
oki
compact hemlock
*repariert.
tawdry gorge
it can be both
compact hemlock
^
cyan scarab
vielleicht die beide sind richtig
outer vector
wurde [P2] is equivalent to ist [P2] worden right? both vorgangspassiv?
delicate vortex
Yup
fossil panther
blu change your role to level c
tawdry gorge
mhm
graceful island
Ich bin heiratet
opaque comet
makes sense kind of
delicate vortex
Das ist was anders aber
high mantle
^ yes.
Both work
cyan scarab
das Auto wird repariert
compact hemlock
Ich bin heiratet
@graceful island *verheiratet.
graceful island
ahh
outer vector
are there examples of these rules
graceful island
Was ist die unterschied zwischen Verheiraten und Heiraten?
compact hemlock
heiratet is both third person and second person plural in the singular.
Er/Sie/Es/Ihr heiratet.
graceful island
ahhh
boreal zealot
it's not transitive
u have to have a transitive verb for it to "afford" passiveness
delicate vortex
Die Haare der Katze sind gewaschen?
high mantle
*sind :3
fossil panther
verletzen is transitive isn't it
delicate vortex
Ach bother fast da
boreal zealot
no it's not transitive
high mantle
Die Katze ist (schwer) verletzt
would work, soo then it's Zustandspassiv?
tawdry gorge
would work how
compact hemlock
With schwer as an adverb: heavily.
boreal zealot
hmm 🤔
high mantle
Yeah
outer vector
taking notes:
Zustandspassiv is passive, the adjective can be modified by an adverb
compact hemlock
Die Katze ist leicht/schwer verletzt.
delicate vortex
Die Tür ist geöffnet
outer vector
so, for the latter point, that's like "the window has long been opened?"
void ice
ok i get it
cyan scarab
das Auto ist gerade reparieret
cyan scarab
das Auto wird repariert
graceful island
Meine katze ist nicht verletzt, weil ich nicht gemein bin 😤
compact hemlock
Adjectival: The large door.
Adverbial: The door is large.
cyan scarab
ich beschreibe ein Prozess
compact hemlock
@delicate vortex No, that would be Die Katze kann leicht verletzt werden.
covert wharf
is prone to injury?
boreal zealot
i would say if u can turn it into active form then it's passive
tawdry gorge
Ich wasche die Waesche
Die Waesche wird gewaschen
Die Waesche ist gewaschen
Die Waesche ist sauber
cyan scarab
boreal zealot
if it can't be, then most likely it's descriptive
void ice
zustand und vorgangs passive oder ?
boreal zealot
das auto ist (von dem Mann) repariert worden.
gestern habe ich das auto abgeholt. das auto ist schon repariert.
right?
high mantle
Those are all grammatical if that's the question, Gran
graceful island
Heckie and Base are cool teachers
wary atlas
@spring estuary What I mean is just that Zustandpassiv is just a technical grammar thing. You don't need to tell the difference between adjective or Zustandpassiv. Zustandpassiv just means "this sentence can also be turned into an active sentence", but it's not important to know that.
boreal zealot
refined language
wary atlas
The only important part is the difference between Zustandspassiv and Vorgangspassiv.
compact hemlock
Perfekt Passiv
Das Essen ist gekocht worden
Zustandspassiv
Das Essen ist gekocht
Furthermore, Zustandspassiv cannot be combined with adverbs of time.
• Passiv: Das Essen ist gestern Morgen gekocht worden
• Zustandspassiv: impossible
graceful island
when we use passive, we mostly use Perfekt, right?
high mantle
I think that's because of the second one being present tense, Casca?
tawdry gorge
Der Boden war geputzt, aber wir hatten keine ahnung wie er geputzt wurde. Der Boden ist sauber.
compact hemlock
Standard passive
The food has been cooked.
The action of cooking was done to the food.
Zustandspassiv
The food is cooked.
The food is in the state of being cooked.
flat helm
||1.zustand 2.vorgangs 3.adjektiv||
tawdry gorge
thank you casca 
fossil panther
||zustand, regular passive, adjective||
delicate vortex
||1 zustands, 2 Vorgangs 3 adjektiv||
graceful island
||Der boden war geputzt - Vorgangs. wir hatten keine ahnung wie er geputzt wurde - zustandpasive. Der Boden ist sauber - adjective||
rip :c
high mantle
||1. Zustand, 2 Vorgang, 3 Adjektiv||
tawdry gorge
other way around lilli :3
graceful island
yea ik I got a bit confused
tawdry gorge
||bulli smells||
graceful island
luckily i know why too
outer vector
||Zustandspassiv: Der Boden war geputzt
Vorgangspassiv: ...er geputzt wurde||
boreal zealot
zustand-vorgangs-adj
outer vector
oops! yeah thank you
high mantle
||This will be in spoiler ||
tender citrus
1 zustand 2 vorgangs 3 adjektiv
gritty smelt
<zustand, vorgang, adjektiv>
graceful island
heck youre so smart
tawdry gorge
nice bulli
delicate vortex
||hecke du bist die tolleste Lehrerin||
tawdry gorge
im not, i just have a lot of lovely helpers :3
boreal zealot
ach i didnt know how to do that sorry
graceful island
doch
fossil panther
wow i can't believe everyone is buttering up horko just to get better grades smh my head
gritty smelt
smh my head
opaque comet
ok i think i got it this time
tawdry gorge
Zustandspassiv: Nach dem 2. Weltkrieg war Stuttgart zerstört.
Vorgangspassiv: Nach dem 2. Weltkrieg wurde Stuttgart zerstört.
fossil panther
||zustand doesn't work? though i can't explain why, it just looks a bit off to me||
graceful island
game ended lol
sand orbit
(redacted)
compact hemlock
||zustand doesn't work? though i can't explain why, it just looks a bit off to me||
@fossil panther Might look weird, but it's perfectly fine.
delicate vortex
|| war zerstört? Also es ist kein transitives verb||
vestal glen
we are on discord
outer vector
Zustandspassiv because the action is known to be done by a subject?
sand orbit
oops i didnt actually read the sentence, i apologise for my insensitivity
boreal zealot
||zustand works but not vorgangs because destroyed is a state that is already over||
delicate vortex
ih nee meine Antwort ist umgekehrt
fossil panther
||wait, is it vorgangspassiv because it's talking about the city being destroyed after ww2?||
boreal zealot
:D
wary atlas
So the grammar is correct but it would just be factually wrong?
tawdry gorge
high mantle
Yes, Base!
tawdry gorge
Indicative:
Present: Der Mann ist verletzt (sein + Partizip II)
Perfekt: Der Mann ist verletzt gewesen (sein + Partizip II + gewesen)
Präteritum: Der Mann war verletzt (sein in Praeteritum + Partizip II)
Plusquamperfekt: Der Mann war verletzt gewesen (sein in Praeteritum + Partizip II + gewesen)
Futur I: Der Mann wird verletzt sein (werden + Partizip II + sein)
Futur II: Der Mann wird verletzt gewesen sein (werden + Partizip II + gewesen + sein)
Konj I:
Present: Der Mann sei verletzt (Sein in Konj I + Partizip II)
Past: Der Mann sei verletzt gewesen (sein in Konj I + Partizip II + gewesen)
Future: Der Mann werde verletzt sein (werden in Konj I + Partizip II + sein)
Future Perfect: Der Mann werde verletzt gewesen sein (werden in Konj. I + Partizip II + gewesen + sein)
Konj II:
Present: Der Mann wäre verletzt (sein in Konj II + Partizip II)
Past: Der Mann waere verletzt gewesen (sein in Konj. II + Partizip II + gewesen)
Future: Der Mann wuerde verletzt sein (werden in Konj. II + Partizip II + sein)
Future Perfect: Der Mann wuerde verletzt gewesen sein ( werden in Konj. II + Partizip II + gewesen + sein)
compact hemlock
I'm excited. 
opaque comet
LETS FUCKING GOO
boreal zealot
i dont understand but i will try anyay!
hasty spire
Same
graceful island
Übungzeit übungzeit
compact hemlock
We'll answer any and all questions, don't worry. ^^
tawdry gorge
Erik hat den Motor repariert - Erik repaired the motor 
fossil panther
||Vorgangs - der Motor wurde repariert||
||Zustands - der Motor war repariert||
delicate vortex
||Der Motor ist repariert. ||
compact hemlock
You assume Erik doesn't design a perfect motor to begin with.
boreal zealot
erik ist den motor repariert worden
graceful island
||der Motor ist rapariert - zustand||
||der Motor wird rapariert vorgangs||
fossil panther
she never said he created the motor
compact hemlock
Touché.
delicate vortex
|| Vorgangs: der Motor ist repariert worden. ||
compact hemlock
Touché.
sand orbit
||Der Motor wurde repariert||
compact hemlock
*repariert, Lillie.
graceful island
danke
fossil panther
rapiert
graceful island
spelling is hard
outer vector
||Vorgangspassiv: Der Motor wird repariert||
||Zustandspassiv: Der Motor ist repariert||
compact hemlock
*Der Motor.
graceful island
I was gonna say that
compact hemlock
👀
outer vector
Is it der in both?
boreal zealot
||vorgangs: Der Motor wurde repariert.||
||zustand: Der Motor war repariert.||
compact hemlock
Yes, Aden.
outer vector
Danke
fossil panther
it's den motor in the active sentence because motor is the object
graceful island
yes, because the motor is the subject
fossil panther
in passive, motor becomes the subject, so der
boreal zealot
depedns when the active action took place
graceful island
Idk amboss thats very subjective /s
tranquil escarp
Bulli dummmmm
boreal zealot
if it's present then it's the same in passive
fossil panther
lillie i am going to nae nae your kneecaps
sand orbit
doesn't it depend on the meaning im trying to convey?
graceful island
you missspelt absolutely lovely, arrem
boreal zealot
perfekt is vergangenheit
tranquil escarp
People really like spelt today.
graceful island
Spelt > spelled
compact hemlock
@delicate vortex *Nun ist er repariert.
tranquil escarp
Spelt > wheat
graceful island
true
compact hemlock
Close your eyes, Arrem. That's the real spoiler tag.
opaque comet
graceful island
The best spoiler tag is removing your eyes
boreal zealot
past of the past
kindred wasp
past perfect
boreal zealot
= pqp
outer vector
Die Augen sind entfernt
flat helm
🙈
outer vector
Die Augen werden entfernt
graceful island
Die Augen sind geyeetet
tranquil escarp
Agreed.
compact hemlock
BULLI. 👀
ruby ocean
dieser Bulli
compact hemlock
Hexie is doing a wonderful job and you should show your full support.
opaque comet
geyeetet XDDD
boreal zealot
great high german haha
fossil panther
bulli. 😌
tranquil escarp
I'm supporting hecke in her DMs. She can confirm.
sand orbit
ich: bitte entfernen Sie sich
Augen: 👁️ 👃 👁️
graceful island
arrem is simping for Horkie????
boreal zealot
es war scheiß gewesen
compact hemlock
Who wouldn't, Lillie? Hexie is awesome.
graceful island
true
kindred wasp
bevor ich deutsch gelernt habe, war ich froh gewesen
graceful island
hexie is litterally the best
compact hemlock
Now you have the honour of teaching these people how to properly swear in German, Bulli. :P
opaque comet
simps???
ruby ocean
hecke, hast du ihnen Futur II Zustandspassiv beigebracht?
tawdry gorge
im gonna link your blog!
high mantle
Damn Arrem
tawdry gorge
jop. schon vor monate
fossil panther
pferd bitte hör auf mit futur ii
boreal zealot
hier sind ein paar Beispiele (ich denke)
opaque comet
gesimpen
delicate vortex
Its plausquam so hatte is right
high mantle
^
boreal zealot
it's the same in english: i had eaten breakfast
compact hemlock
Plusquamperfekt? In my Tatort? 😱
sand orbit
my tagesschau too? et tu brute?
tawdry gorge
yes :(
delicate vortex
Bevor ich zur Schule gegangen bin, hatte ich gefrühstückt
Nachdem ich gefrühstückt hatte, bin ich zur Schule gegangen
tawdry gorge
i actually heard al ady using it wrong on a talk show
graceful island
Hausschue :c
tawdry gorge
and i was so mad i knew it was wrong
high mantle
First one is swapped, Blu
compact hemlock
That makes me proud, Hexie.
high mantle
2nd one as well now
Think about what's happening first
delicate vortex
Ops
boreal zealot
lol
delicate vortex
I dont use this often XD
high mantle
No one does 
tawdry gorge
Wir werden das Haus gebaut haben.
tranquil escarp
low key wanna needsimprovement you
delicate vortex
I know arrem please no salt in the wound
tranquil escarp
It's bold, bold hurts my eyes. :/
high mantle
It's correct, hecke
graceful island
lol
fossil panther
||Das Haus wird gebaut worden sein||
||Das Haus wird gebaut sein||
graceful island
||Das haus wird gebaut 😩, Das Haus ist gebaut||
tawdry gorge
We will have built the house (by then)
sand orbit
The only way I found to set this in stone for me, was by writing examples for every form that exists and its English meaning. That really helped me visualised what I was trying to say.
tranquil escarp
The house will have been built. Fucking eeezz.
boreal zealot
||Das Haus wird gebaut.||
||Das Haus wird gebaut gewesen.?||
compact hemlock
I like it, Aden, but sadly not.
high mantle
||Das Haus wird gebaut worden sein||
||Das Haus wird gebaut gewesen sein||
graceful island
Casca help me
boreal zealot
im so confused haha
graceful island
why is it wrong?
delicate vortex
|| das Haus wird gebaut gewesen sein ||
compact hemlock
Good job, Bulli!
tawdry gorge
tranquil escarp
You do now.
outer vector
lol i made the house plural D:
compact hemlock
¯_(ツ)_/¯
tawdry gorge
compact hemlock
I wish, lol.
boreal zealot
||wir werden das haus gebaut werden, wir Werden das haus bebaut werden||
graceful island
make casca mod, thank you
tawdry gorge
🅱️ebaut
graceful island
actually, make casca server owner
tawdry gorge
tranquil escarp
No, the next mod is Broseidon.
fossil panther
wir bauen das haus gebaut bauen
compact hemlock
I don't want to be owner, Lillie, but sweet of you.
graceful island
damn
delicate vortex
|| das Haus wird gebaut haben werden ||
graceful island
hexie I need help
tranquil escarp
Fine if you don't want Broseidon, we can mod whichever kid comes on to spam next. That would be hilarious. Come to get banned, get mod instead.
boreal zealot
||BAU DAS HAUS ALTER||
high mantle
||Nö!||
fossil panther
my brain automatically censors any instance of the word "gew*sen" because i hate the word and its dumb and stupid and bad and
wary atlas
That's how you got mod, right? @tranquil escarp
tawdry gorge
compact hemlock
Better than asking for a colour, Base. ^^
delicate vortex
|| das haus wird gebaut worden sein ??||
compact hemlock
Sweet dreams.
high mantle
Bye Darksider~
outer vector
gew*sen
fossil panther
gew*sen
boreal zealot
War ich richtig?
graceful island
||Das haus wird gebaut worden sein||?
fossil panther
losser
graceful island
Loser*
boreal zealot
||Das Haus wird gebaut worden sein?||
outer vector
looser
fossil panther
||d a s h a u s w i r d g e b a u t g e w e s e n s e i n||
graceful island
😳 im smrt
high mantle
Yes
graceful island
fossil panther
outer vector
hecke has that austrian S
fossil panther
delicate vortex
Ich habs gemacht
graceful island
s
delicate vortex
Ich bin dumm
graceful island
no
delicate vortex
Bitte
compact hemlock
^^
fossil panther
i'm smrt
storm turret
||hecke wird geliebt gewesen sein||
high mantle
||Hecke wird immer geliebt sein (not Futur II)||
outer vector
ich werde sun worden gewesen sein
storm turret
blu <3 bin todsaumüde
compact hemlock
Hast du versucht, zu schlafen? :(
delicate vortex
Ich auch...
compact hemlock
Ich werde auch so langsam müde.
storm turret
ich bin hier statt am schlafen
tranquil escarp
should have went to bed earlier stupido
compact hemlock
Good to see you, though I would have preferred knowing you were dreaming right now.
graceful island
what is the best english translation for something in future II?
tranquil escarp
hecke is a mean person
storm turret
now add kon ii
tranquil escarp
that's just how it is 
outer vector
lillie will have memed
graceful island
ah
compact hemlock
more simpler
👀
high mantle
future II in English, Lillie 
graceful island
Lillie wird gememet gewessen sein
tawdry gorge
Kels hat den fruchtsalat gegessen - kels ate the fruit salad
storm turret
i will have eaten
outer vector
||Answer||
compact hemlock
*den Salat.
tranquil escarp
was ist kels
high mantle
*Kelch
delicate vortex
@storm turret || du würdest gehasst gewesen sein... ||
flat helm
||not the answer||
quick skiff
||😏 ||
nova thistle
@quick skiff ???!!!
compact hemlock
Bulli, this isn't Harry Potter. We aren't pitting children against each other.
high mantle
Oh
tranquil escarp
Disagree.
high mantle
Hah!
fossil panther
||der fruchtsalat wird gegessen - v||
||der fruchtsalat war gegessen - z||
compact hemlock
Are we not?
high mantle
Majority is with me
tranquil escarp
Person with the most correct answers in this session wins a pony.
compact hemlock
No one ever tells me things. /s
storm turret
||Der fruchtsalat ist von kels aufgegessen.|| zustands
delicate vortex
|| der Fruchtsalat ist gegessen
Der Frucht salat wurde gegessen ||
graceful island
idk what im supposed to do
tranquil escarp
||d||||e||||r|||| ||||f||||r||||u||||c||||h||||t||||s||||a||||l||||a||||t|||| ||||w||||i||||r||||d|||| ||||g||||e||||g||||e||||s||||s||||e||||n||||?|||| ||||p||||l||||e||||a||||s||||e|||| ||||h||||e||||c||||k||||e|||| ||||h||||e||||l||||p|||| ||||m||||e|||| ||||i||||s|||| ||||i||||t|||| ||||c||||o||||r||||r||||e||||c||||t|||| ||||p||||l||||e||||a||||s||||e||
flat helm
arrem why
high mantle
Can you add an actor to Zustandspassiv like that, sun?
boreal zealot
||Z: Der Fruchtsalat war gegessen.||
||V: Der Fruchtsalat wurde gegessen.||
gibt es einen Preis für die meisten falschen Antworten
compact hemlock
||Imagine not knowing how to easily read that, Arrem.||
outer vector
||Der Fruchtsalat ist gegessen worden||
compact hemlock
@fossil panther Me too, thanks.
storm turret
no clue bulli
tranquil escarp
No, wrong answers aren't minus points. Sites that kick you out for spamming wrong answers suck an should be banned and destroyed #fuckskribblio
graceful island
||Der Fruchtsalate wird gegessen - vorgangs, Der fruchtsalat ist gegessen||
tranquil escarp
||i||||m||||a||||g||||i||||n||||e|||| ||||n||||o||||t|||| ||||h||||a||||v||||i||||n||||g|||| ||||s||||p||||o||||i||||l||||e||||r||||s|||| ||||o||||n|||| ||||b||||y|||| ||||d||||e||||f||||a||||u||||l||||t|||| ||||a||||h||||a||
delicate vortex
|| der Fruchtsalat war gegessen
Der Fruchtsalat wurde gegessen ||
outer vector
hi heck my phone died what did u say - just rejoined
compact hemlock
Can't relate, Arrem.
ruby ocean
🙃
graceful island
since when?
outer vector
thank u
worldly path
Its going great aside from the fact that i dont know what the lesson is about 👍
outer vector
i assume that means its right too :D
graceful island
Oh
||Kels hat den fruchsalat gegessen||?
worldly path
you have to spell that
quick skiff
||t h a t ||
compact hemlock
Passive would be without the person doing/having done the action.
outer vector
||Zustands: Der Fruchtsalat ist gegessen gewesen||
graceful island
uhh i have no idea how to do this
tranquil escarp
compact hemlock
Declarative, Hexie, yes.
graceful island
outer vector
i did vorgangs
storm turret
i take it it can't then @high mantle ?
boreal zealot
no need for plusquamperfekt tho
high mantle
Not 100% sure, but I feel that way at least
compact hemlock
What are you unsure on, Bulli?
worldly path
only been to the lesson where we talked about planning stuff for the future, if i had x i would do x
tranquil escarp
It's illegal for Blue bottle top to suffer, she should only be told how fucking cool her dog is.
high mantle
compact hemlock
A word is missing, Bulli.
That's why it feels off.
Then both von and durch work.
The former would be more common.
stiff herald
le no. waite. i a younge learnere am not done yet please more time
high mantle
Yeah, with Vorgangspassiv (adding worden) it works for sure ^^
compact hemlock
Yep. ^^
boreal zealot
cause it's a process
storm turret
the question is with zustands tho
fossil panther
😭
boreal zealot
so durch kinda makes sense
storm turret
would check die grammatik but am in bed on my phone
boreal zealot
yeah cause the process is described with vorgangs
storm turret
i'm so tired i just wanna huff fresh laundry
compact hemlock
"Hexie sagte, sie sei unsicher, wie Konjunktiv I funktioniere."
fossil panther
jae what the fuck
tiny dragon
lol
outer vector
jaetwee
delicate vortex
It dont
storm turret
moai why aren't you purp?
tawdry gorge
(Sie sagten,) er habe den Kuchen gebacken.
high mantle
"Casca sagte, hexie habe gesagt, sie sei unsicher, wie K1 funtioniere"
compact hemlock
Yep. ^^
high mantle
compact hemlock
Bulli zitierte, Casca habe gesagt, Hexie hätte gesagt, sie sei unsicher, wie K1 funktioniere.
Bulli started it. 👀
delicate vortex
|| der Kuchen sei gebacken oder der Kuchen sei gebacken gewesen? Oder keines von den ||
grizzled stump
How would you say if it is a plural?
Sie sagten, sie haben (?) Hünde.
graceful island
Casca sagte, Bulli zitierte, Casca habe gesagt, Hexie hätte gesagt, sie sei unsicher, wie K1 funktioniere.
grizzled stump
hätten?
fossil panther
||Der Kuchen wurde gebacken.||
||Der Kuchen war gebackt.||
?????
compact hemlock
It's reported speech.
worldly path
i still dont know what we are doing
graceful island
hätte -> K2?
outer vector
mind your J's guys -_-
worldly path
:(
high mantle
Casca stellte fest, Bulli habe zitiert, dass Casca gesagt hätte, sie wäre unsicher, wie K1 funktionieren würde
compact hemlock
Ich denke, deshalb bin ich.
- Descartes
-> Descartes sagte, er denke, deshalb sei er.
outer vector
Bulli werde das beenden.
high mantle
lmao
fossil panther
||Der Kuchen sei gebacken gewesen????????||
worldly path
what was passive again
storm turret
heck will you do strem after this my hot wife?
high mantle
Bulli werde das beenden, aber nicht sehr bald beendet haben
graceful island
||Der kuchen wäre gebackt||
compact hemlock
When you talk about things without saying who did it.
worldly path
oh so you just skip the ich habe part
delicate vortex
|| der Kuchen sei gebacken oder der Kuchen sei gebacken gewesen?
Der Kuchen sei gebacken worden?? ||
boreal zealot
||Z: Der Kuchen sei gebacken gewesen||
||V: Der Kuchen werde gebacken geworden||?
this one.
worldly path
well that was simple
delicate vortex
Hilfe ich bin verwirrt casca
outer vector
Ich sei verwirrt Casca
compact hemlock
Join the club. 😎
fossil panther
😭
boreal zealot
my brain is in shambles
delicate vortex
Casca sagte er sei auch verwirrt....
high mantle
is something specific the goal? (tense and Vorgangs-/Zustandspassiv?)
Because all your suggestions are grammatical, Blue
boreal zealot
what was the answer?
outer vector
Sie seien grammatisch
delicate vortex
Ich würde lieber sterben als ein blödes Pony zu bekommen
dense glen
Der Kuchen wird gebacken werden 🤔
compact hemlock
Eine Meise unterm Pony haben.
graceful island
which thing are we supposed to write in? zustand/vorgangs?
tawdry gorge
not quite edel
high mantle
And which tense?
worldly path
i have cleaned the room. die zimmer wurde gereinigt
dense glen
Der Kuchen wird gebacken worden sein 🤔
compact hemlock
@tawdry gorge Remember when I said that I love you and am excited for your lesson?
||Well, I still am and I love you sooo much. Keep it up. ||
graceful island
beer
high mantle
compact hemlock
Because I'm thinking of beer.
boreal zealot
rein probably
graceful island
thats what my mom does every time she picks something up off the ground
boreal zealot
cause pure = rein
compact hemlock
She cleans it with beer?
boreal zealot
purifying
tawdry gorge
(Sie sagten,) er habe den Kuchen gebacken.
graceful island
apparently
delicate vortex
Und wer würde nicht mit Bier reinigen?
graceful island
||Der Kuchen ist gebackt, sagte sie||?
high mantle
||(Sie sagten,) der Kuchen sei gebacken worden||
graceful island
warum?
compact hemlock
K1: ist -> sei.
graceful island
oh
storm turret
me: why does bin gebacken sound wrong
sei: exists
compact hemlock
*gebacken.
graceful island
Yar me maites, the cake be baked!
delicate vortex
Ich bin gebacken sun
high mantle
Cool
storm turret
feel like i'm gebacken rn
graceful island
||Der Kuchen sei gebacken worden||?
boreal zealot
this is passive + k1+ past
potent scaffold
Die Nudeln werden von mir gekocht
boreal zealot
which makes things so goddamn hard
worldly path
normal passive: die nudeln wurde gekocht vs ???
tawdry gorge
Die Waesche wird gewaschen
Die Waesche ist gewaschen
compact hemlock
*whom.
compact hemlock
You need one more word, Lillie.
worldly path
||die nudel ist gekocht ||
compact hemlock
This is a lesson, Lillie. It's the one time I can be pedantic.
graceful island
lol
compact hemlock
Who doesn't like learning that it's whom, not who?
graceful island
i changed it casca
worldly path
what if its just single noodle
graceful island
whom = who the.
boreal zealot
@boreal zealot
graceful island
thats the only accepted use of whom, change my mind
boreal zealot
whom is dativ
graceful island
hmm
tawdry gorge
Konj I:
Present: Der Mann sei verletzt (Sein in Konj I + Partizip II)
Past: Der Mann sei verletzt gewesen (sein in Konj I + Partizip II + gewesen)
Future: Der Mann werde verletzt sein (werden in Konj I + Partizip II + sein)
Future Perfect: Der Mann werde verletzt gewesen sein (werden in Konj. I + Partizip II + gewesen + sein)
compact hemlock
That's... not how whom is used, Lillie. :D
graceful island
whom fuck made you the grammar master
worldly path
why are everyone creating more complex sentences than me if you are only supposed to switch to ist
compact hemlock
*Who the :P
outer vector
that just hurts to read, lillie
graceful island
good
glass rune
