#lost-ark-help

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vast oriole
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so its clearly not that

smoky scroll
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No:(

vast oriole
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check what tist sent

smoky scroll
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nothing seems to help in the article, gonna validate the files and restart the router and retry

livid fossil
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I need to f b for stupid cooking ingredient

rose jewel
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change DNS

rose jewel
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cloudflare or google should work

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probably even quad9

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but never tested that one

rose wren
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havent heard them, just google says founder: IBM, looks to be official

pale wasp
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can you not use bound tool craft part to make tools?

rose wren
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sadly nope because there's a bound craft i think thats the cause of this

smoky scroll
pale wasp
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I couldn't find anything at the exchange

rose wren
elder ledge
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So Im back and Im wondering, I have a piece of gear with lv10 honing finished. aka 1630. If I transfer this one piece into t4, when I unlock the 10-20 advance hone, will I need t4 resources, or is it t3 since I started the 1-10 with t3?

manic quarry
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itll use t4 resources

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doesnt matter if you had used it on t3 before

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if its a t4 gear, its using t4 resources no matter

rose jewel
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besides, you dont want to go back to t3 to farm stuff for adv. hone, its counterproductive

woeful knot
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which life skill is better to focus on if u wanna craft fusions

vast oriole
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t3 or t4 ?

elder ledge
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I remember ppl saying it was a must to do it on t3 before transfering, is it still that bad to just advance hone in t4?

fallen canyon
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depends on market

vast oriole
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just do it in t4

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t3 is worth only if you have shitton of mats

rose wren
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advices changes

manic quarry
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and gold

vast oriole
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it gets nerfed wednesday anyway, so doing advanced honing now would be giga stupid

fallen canyon
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^

vast oriole
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and dont stay t3 just for that

rose jewel
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stuff usually wont be set in stone forever, game changes

manic quarry
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progression changes

fallen canyon
rose jewel
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he never said he wanted to sell, he just wanted to craft

vast oriole
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yeaaah if hes not in t4, he has more limited options

rose jewel
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duo log and done

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but idk if hes t4

vast oriole
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thats why i asked if he was in t3 or t4

woeful knot
vast oriole
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yes so

vast oriole
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are you in tier 3 or 4

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PLEASE

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;___;

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dont say log

woeful knot
rose jewel
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haha get ignored

vast oriole
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if hes in t3

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ok

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then yes log

fallen canyon
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log prog

vast oriole
rose jewel
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hi sad

woeful knot
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what would be the best for t3? for my alts

vast oriole
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excavating

rose jewel
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alts?

woeful knot
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oke ty

rose jewel
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wait wait

smoky scroll
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alts?

rose jewel
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accounts or characters

woeful knot
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characters

rose jewel
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its rosterwide

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not per char, the energy

woeful knot
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i know

rose jewel
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....

woeful knot
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but when i want to farm mats for my alts

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i also want to know what life skill i should do for them

vast oriole
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what are your alts ilvl ?

livid fossil
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once you use your energy your alts aint going to use it

rose jewel
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t4 log, sell, buy t3 orehas

woeful knot
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i never said i would farm mats for them on the same day

livid fossil
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cause it gone one the first toon

woeful knot
vast oriole
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ok so

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i would suggest to not hone your alts without express event

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thats all

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unless youre masochist

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and you like pain

woeful knot
woeful knot
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i need the variety or i will kms

vast oriole
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yes and no

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oh

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ok i see

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well it would still be better to not hone topo much alts to 1620

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rn XD

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ags made an article that suggest that it will get nerfed

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at some point

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i think summer personally

livid fossil
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in the near FUTURE

woeful knot
vast oriole
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ok good

thick mountain
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whats the best method to increase roster level?

strange viper
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more alts

balmy plank
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Tower, main story quest, cubes across all characters

rose jewel
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make alt, do tower and main story (later instances), delete alt, make new alt repeat

vast oriole
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horizontaaallll

rose jewel
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you will hate yourself so just dont do it

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find people to play with, roster doesnt equal hands

thick mountain
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hm okay, ill try tower and horizontals. making and deleting alt seems hardcore haha

rose jewel
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roster is something you dont really farm for, it comes over time

vast oriole
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unless you hate yourself

pale wasp
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is there a way to sell tears of the abyss?

rose jewel
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each player can buy their own and its only for sailors, so no

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no one would buy them anyway

rose wren
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think theres like 8sailors and then its useless, u gain like 3tears from collectible

livid fossil
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I am like 211 and I hate myself

cosmic root
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im a little confused. I just hit 1600 ilvl using the challenge express thing. Should i craft the akkan gear or do I just stay with the gear I have now and upgrade the "faith brand set"?

vast oriole
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you have already akkan gear

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if it shows +15 and 1600 ilvl, its akkan

cosmic root
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oh ok. so i just use this armor until tier 4?

vast oriole
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yes

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til +19

cosmic root
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ty

vast oriole
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then you transfer to t4

fallen canyon
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and then uninstall

white finch
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real

spiral wyvern
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is left better because more kicks?

fallen canyon
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no, you want the one with more rare drop rate

fallen canyon
white finch
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u didn't follow ur own advice yet tho

fallen canyon
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wbu tho suscat

rose wren
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y u roll legendary?

white finch
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only female archer will bring me back now

fallen canyon
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i know someone crashed out when wildsoul got released instead of fem archer

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valid crashout ngl

white finch
fallen canyon
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fused all gems, won gamba lvl 10 dmg sold it and hes now on poe2

white finch
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lolicons win again

fallen canyon
white finch
rose wren
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i started as male archer, no idea if there be female many years ago

vast oriole
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i mean anyone thinking specialist wouldnt get a third class is stupid af

fallen canyon
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we want big tiddies

vast oriole
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well think with your brain instead of another organ

white finch
fallen canyon
white finch
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woman surprised man think with their pp

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caught in 4k

fallen canyon
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ye this stinky arna acting like he doesnt have darek

white finch
fallen canyon
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darek legit thinks with pp 99%

vast oriole
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he does

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not for pixels tho

fallen canyon
rose wren
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ya a cat no?

merry trail
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Returning player here. Just hit 1610 and finished Echidna on the Challenge Express. I need to make my push to 1620 but I def don't have enough materials. Any recommendations on different things I can do the earn the materials I need? I got my event guardiant token turn ins already. Anything else?

rose wren
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?gold

buoyant dockBOT
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Gold Sources

Tradable Gold

Tradable Gold is gold that can be used to purchase items from the Market/Auction House as well as be traded to other players.

  • Legion Commander Raids
  • Kazeros Raids
  • Abyssal Dungeons
  • Adventure Island Gold Reward
  • Fate Embers (gold is withheld)
  • Life Skills
  • Selling tradeable items on Marketplace/Auction House.
  • Content Bids
  • Completing Super Mokoko Express Events (gold is withheld)
  • Royal Crystal Exchange (gold is withheld)
Bound Gold

Bound Gold is used exclusively for progression systems.

  • Gold Reward Chests from Una's Tokens
  • Solo Mode Raids
rose jewel
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indigo and buzzling islands for a small amount of mats, doing your dailies, unas, weeklies, all the events you can get (except frog, frog fucking sucks)

rose wren
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?shards

buoyant dockBOT
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Known Shard Sources

Weekly Resets:

  • Event Shop
  • Tea & Libra Guild Vessel (outside all ports; Tier 3 shards only)
  • Guild Shop
  • PvP Vendor
  • Kayangel/Akkan/Echidna Shop (Tier 3; random chance from mat box)
  • Behemoth/Echidna Shop (Tier 4; random chance from mat box)
  • Weekly Una Tasks
  • Raid Boxes

Daily Resets:

  • Chaos Dungeon
  • Guardian Raid
  • Daily Una Tasks
  • (select days) Chaos Gate

One Time Rewards:

  • Punika/Elgacia/Pleccia/Voldis/South & North Kurzan Completion(Tier 3)
  • Tower (Fortunespire for T3)
  • Legion Raid Exchange Vendor (Clown/Brel/Akkan marks)
  • Chaos Line Vendor (Weekly entry)
  • Moko Island Vendor (Daily entry)
  • Indigo Island (Daily Entry)
  • Buzzling Island (Daily Entry, Hourly minigame)
  • Ark Pass (event that comes in seasons)

Paid Sources:

  • (gold) Auction House
  • (gold/bc) Mari’s Shop
  • (rc) Silvery Honor Pack
  • (rc) Honing Packs (less value for shards alone)

Courtesy of daisies

rose jewel
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other than that, no, its a slow push event with the event and shards are the usual gatekeepers

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but yeah you can get stuff from the commands above

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not a lot but will help

fallen canyon
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we gona have an event again on wed so hopefully u can benefit from that as 1610

rose wren
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its been endless events, barely any breaks

livid fossil
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We need more breaks no more events

rose jewel
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"events"

balmy plank
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We're on an extended period of no major content right now

rose jewel
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i dont call that stupid event GR an actual event, that was more like a torture

fallen canyon
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^

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didnt even finished my shop

fallen canyon
balmy plank
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Same, I stopped after week 1

fallen canyon
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and its been like this since february

obsidian valve
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same, i only grabbed some things i felt were necessary but after that meh

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definitely dry on abidos events KEKW

merry trail
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Which is the best option?

fallen canyon
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middle for higher average

obsidian valve
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i'll probably catch flack for this, but i usually do Large chest, then 2 small safes or just work my way down the list of what i have left to afford KEKW

fallen canyon
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last one if u want 10k gamba

obsidian valve
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yeah i'm sure most people do middle though

fallen canyon
livid fossil
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Last time i did gamba i got the 10k then went into chaos dungeon and got honing mats lol off ember

vast oriole
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I got only 1 10k in 3 years idk

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It doesnt work for me

obsidian valve
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i wish they would've kept the x2 token event

vast oriole
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Yeah it was nice

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But una tokens feels so bad

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XD

livid fossil
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i missed th 3rd clash then icouldnt maKE IT out of the yellow in time my lock

cloud lake
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new player here, what's good to grind for lvl 500+ gear other than chaos dungeons? didnt realize it could only be done once a day

livid fossil
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you need the gear from chaos so then you cna hone it no other way

cloud lake
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well im missing everything but a helmet and a ring lmao at 465 rn honed 2 pieces

balmy plank
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Chaos, Unas are kind of it. Island quest have a variety of rewards that might give some low tier mats

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You could ask Area Chat while at sea if anyone could help you with a guardian raid for more mats each day

cloud lake
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okay solid, im doing Unas atm for more of that stuff to hone things

vast oriole
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U need only armor from chaos, not accessories

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To be able to start honing

cloud lake
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ahh okay so just helmet then is all i need, i only have my chest honed rn, after i finish this quest i can hone one more

vast oriole
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Just to be sure

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Do you know what a powerpass is?

merry trail
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Can I do every single solo dungeon per week for the currency? or am i limited

balmy plank
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Sure. You only get gold from 3 so make sure to manage that correctly but you can do every raid once a week

cloud lake
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i do not know what the powerpass is no

vast oriole
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Tldr is
Its a story skipper that will get you to a way higher ilvl

balmy plank
vast oriole
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Everyone has one free

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Do you want to continue reading the story?

cloud lake
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helllllll no ive skipped everything lmao been speeding thru

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same with WoW, just trynna get to end game content really

vast oriole
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On the character selection screen

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Theres a button middle bottom

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Powerpass

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Do event

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And then you will be able to select it

manic quarry
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A powerpass is technically a ticket that takes your selected character to the designated point in the game, depending on which powerpass it is

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Offering you the gear and items

vast oriole
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You can choose that character or a second one

rose jewel
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pass good for skip, use pass

cloud lake
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might choose a second one to try lowkey and keep my berserker as the main grinder the long way

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pause

vast oriole
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Yep sure

manic quarry
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Pausing

cloud lake
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this game is a lot of fun tho just been looking to get into the community a bit

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okay so i chose the event pass and im at trixion do i skip the adventurers path

balmy plank
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You can

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It basically just a highlight real of story stuff you play

manic quarry
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You can skip the whole thing if you don't care about the items rewarded from completing them

cloud lake
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this is so dope lmao cant believe i didnt notice this

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appreciate yall

vast oriole
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Ok so

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Now time to show him the express

balmy plank
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Skipping to endgame introduces a whole lot of stuff and it might be overwhelming so some places to start after are

  • set up character build with the help of lostark.nexus class guides
  • Challenge Express event, icon beside minimap
  • Arkesia Tour, icon beside minimap
vast oriole
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And guise for his class

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And the ark passive video

manic quarry
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Express valtan mHaha

balmy plank
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?quickstart

buoyant dockBOT
vast oriole
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And make him do arkesia tour

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Lets goooo

cloud lake
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GGYATTTTTTT yall goin crazy lmao

vast oriole
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Glhf

balmy plank
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Beginner guide linked above will have an inventory setup thing too which will help sort through the tons of items youre about to get

vast oriole
manic quarry
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Baltan valtan

balmy plank
cloud lake
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so what type of content is available at this skip level instantly, like is that raid level and such or

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lmao im down to dive into all of it, i play MMO's all the time so

manic quarry
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With Ark Passive soon to be available to everyone, I felt like it was a good time to have an overview video going over each tab in ark passive, as well as how to get points/manage each tab.

Thanks for watching guys and if you liked the video then leave a thumbs up or subscribe if you'd like! It's always much appreciated.

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balmy plank
cloud lake
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dope dope, i didnt know if that was possible cause ik most MMO raids are typically party

manic quarry
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Wait till you get to the first challenge express solo mode

cloud lake
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already got my timbers shivering

balmy plank
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Youll be fine. Making sure to set up your char build will make a big difference. Raids can be challenging at first tho. even the easiest solo raids

manic quarry
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Nah I'm fucking around with you. Only said it that way since it's from the very first solo raid boss content, that is a very watered down version of its original, and most first-timers couldn't handle the combat and working around in learning

cloud lake
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what are these annihilation and crimson flame gems

manic quarry
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Your skill damage amplifiers

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And skill cooldown support gems

cloud lake
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solid so what do i do w them because theres like 20 stacks of them in my inventory KEKW

manic quarry
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You equip them in the Gems tab of your character profile

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Uhhh well

balmy plank
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Pretty straighforward, CD gems give skill cooldown, damage gives the skill more damage. There is a gem NPC in major cities where you can reroll them to the skills you need

manic quarry
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Before we do that

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What is this class you're playing

west valley
cloud lake
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im playing berserker and thats about all i know for classes, i saw it goes deeper into it and theres a lot of different names for each class and sub class n allat so i have zero clue lmao

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needa check that video

manic quarry
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Alright

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Let's get into the meat of that

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There's two class stances you choose from

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Think of it as your class style

west valley
manic quarry
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Each class style you're playing on demands a certain build

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in that build is where we'll be figuring out what you should set up

vivid palm
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Has anyone been leveling roster recently? Was via main story quests on fresh characters (no transfer/powerpass). How to optimize it? Should I still run lvl1-50 content or knowledge transfer to somewhere?

lavish groveBOT
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The Ultimate Berserker Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Berserker class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

turbid flame
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I KT Vern and then do tower, and then story after that as I hone the char

balmy plank
manic quarry
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Think berserkers mainly play on Mayhem

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Dunno about the other build

balmy plank
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Basically everyone plays Mayhem

vivid palm
balmy plank
cloud lake
west valley
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did you use your powerpass & character express already @cloud lake ?

cloud lake
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yes i did

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im currently trynna figure everything out lmao

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is blunt thorns or mana forge better, theres pros and cons to both but im new so lmao

manic quarry
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You won't be getting to the fourth tier nodes anyway soon

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Actually you might, just for one node level

balmy plank
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Mana forge, might be better? You wont have a huge amount of crit from extra sources just yet to fully use blunt thorn

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But I also dont play the class and could be wrong

lavish mortar
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i'd go MPF if you're new

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BT tends benefit a lot from heavy investment in an endgame character

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currently on the order of 20mil+ gold investment between books and accessories i think?
kinda needs relic adr iirc

jagged zinc
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they dont even run adren

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what

cloud lake
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goddamn lmao

lavish mortar
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oh does the BT mayhem build not even need adr? zerker broken

rose jewel
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berserk broken? nerf CO sum even more then

cloud lake
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what's the best engraving effects for berserker?

balmy plank
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What does your class guide say?

vast oriole
cloud lake
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uhhhh where do i check that

vast oriole
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?berserker

lavish groveBOT
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The Ultimate Berserker Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Berserker class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

vast oriole
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In this guide

cloud lake
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ahhh okay i see

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okay ive got stuff situated for the most part, what should i start with content wise?

vast oriole
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You see the challenge raids in the express

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Do them

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Well obly valtan

cloud lake
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bet

vast oriole
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Then you can go akkan solo mode to get a bit of gold

cloud lake
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is gold a lame ahh grind like WoW is lmao cause i just use sky coach and pay for gold on there

rose jewel
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tour

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in raid sec

cloud lake
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is tour just for like material grinding?

timber mauve
vast oriole
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Its for skills potion points

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Runes

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Etc etc

turbid flame
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I uh, wouldn't recommend advertising that you RMT

cloud lake
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what are these like protection, obliteration, and honor leapstones for

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man i got a lotta questions

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getting into an MMO YEARSSSSSS after it came out is so intense every time lmao

timber mauve
# cloud lake is tour just for like material grinding?

TLDR: Tour is a "boost" through many of the collectibles in the game. Many of these aren't for cosmetics, but rather direct power gain to your character(s). It'll come in the form of skill points, stats, etc. It's an event that doesn't expire that you can partake in once per roster since those collectbles are roster shared.

rose jewel
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you know the dps was bad when you get mvp

timber mauve
rose jewel
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or more specifically me

livid fossil
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Dam I wasn’t in group lol 😂

rose jewel
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and you never will

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im from west

livid fossil
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Me missing my surge

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I have death blade west

rose jewel
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is she even 1660

livid fossil
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Nah she dusty

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I have not touched her

rose jewel
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well

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she could be used as extra learning

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but you do you

livid fossil
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And I think she surge db re lol

turbid flame
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have you killed Thaemine yet?

cloud lake
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uhm so im doing the express dungeon thing and had bro like quarter health and just got one shot at full healt whats that all about lmao

livid fossil
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What you mean extra learning I get my extra learning from dying in g3 do cause I dashed infront of his stupid sword

turbid flame
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which gate? 1 or 2?

livid fossil
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3

turbid flame
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meant the person who talked about boss having quarter hp

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and then dying

livid fossil
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after teh 3rd clash

cloud lake
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zero clue hold on

balmy plank
turbid flame
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was it a big werewolf, or pig boi?

cloud lake
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dark mountain predator

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goat mf

turbid flame
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that's a wolf

livid fossil
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i dashed into sword byacident cause i didnt see where he hit it i was to far off

turbid flame
cloud lake
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no shot thats a wolf wtf lmao

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maybe he is

balmy plank
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Also for raids Deathboi on youtube has guides for solo raids. Most youll need to know mechs for

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If you dont complete those mechs theyll wipe the raid

timber mauve
# cloud lake zero clue hold on

Legion raid and abyssal dungeons will have mechanics that will one shot you (or your entire raid group) if not cleared in a certain way. Maxroll.gg website has solo mode and group mode guides on each one.

cloud lake
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one moment, okay so he does that attack where he slams the ground and it all goes black and thats where i get one shot

balmy plank
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Probably the first mech where you collect balls

turbid flame
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nothing one shots

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except for if you fail the thing I linked a pic of

cloud lake
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this reminds me a lot of destiny 2 lmao just different format

timber mauve
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Oh man, glad I'm done with that game.

balmy plank
cloud lake
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that game is indeed painful 😂

timber mauve
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Played from beta d1 to forsaken. Pretty much hard quit after that. Came back for Final Shape to finish it off. Now I'm really done.

balmy plank
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Same, but I made it a little further than forsaken and never came back

cloud lake
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yeah me and my homie grinded forever for the whole time the games existed and then bungie started doing the legit worst things ever until final shape lmao and then more trash again

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also all I’m seeing is the Valtan dude nothing about the predator dude

turbid flame
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it's Valtan gate 1

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is what you're fighting now

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did you look at the pic I shared? that's pretty much the only mechanic for the wolf guy

cloud lake
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ahhh I see

balmy plank
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People usually call raids by the main boss. Demon Beast Canyon is the raid but Valtan is the Gate 2 big boss

cloud lake
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the mechanics of that was actually super sick

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holy omg this next boss mechanics lmao

balmy plank
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Its actually not as bad as it seams. The real hard part is not getting knocked off the edge

cloud lake
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how many bosses are in this chalenge

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challenge*

balmy plank
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Each "Gate" is a raid boss. Valtan has 2 gates

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The Wolves from G1 splitting into 2 is a unique part of that fight. Theyre all typically against 1 boss

livid fossil
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Me gravity don’t like each other

prisma kiln
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how do i even go about doing an abyss raid or a dungeon, i need people but there’s never anything for matching and to find a party is always empty 😭

balmy plank
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You do solo mode

prisma kiln
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i thought i needed people for those?

livid fossil
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Old abyssal you ain’t gonna find anyone

turbid flame
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old abyssals are dead content

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if it has a solo mode, odds are people do solo mode

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exception being Thaemine

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and some hard modes for pets / wings

balmy plank
prisma kiln
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how do i go about doing argos solo?

cobalt heart
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Ppl used to run old abyssals for cards but nobody needs them anymore from there

cobalt heart
turbid flame
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you don't do Argos solo

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it's dead content

prisma kiln
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oh so both are dead content, great lmao

balmy plank
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You just dont do Argos in general these days

turbid flame
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you don't "need" to do Argos

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you can go straight from epic gear to Relic gear w/ Valtan

cobalt heart
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Argos is a long past progression point

prisma kiln
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gonna be a little, level 1387 rn

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but ty guys

cobalt heart
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Use the power pass if you have it

turbid flame
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you just hone your regular gear

cobalt heart
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It’ll get u 1580 so u can start to see some solo modes

turbid flame
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it doesn't get increased honing odds if it goes legendary

prisma kiln
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but all good

cobalt heart
prisma kiln
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yeah honing my gear is a bit of a pain

cobalt heart
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Where would u even farm mats for ur gear level

turbid flame
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you can always use the powerpassed char to get gold to boost the char you're on currently

cobalt heart
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Like the oreha

turbid flame
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chaos dungeons / guardians

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if you don't have unbound gold, stronghold farm

prisma kiln
cobalt heart
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Hrm

prisma kiln
cobalt heart
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What character did u use the pass on

prisma kiln
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regular hold transferred between both characters?

prisma kiln
cobalt heart
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I mean what’s the class

cobalt heart
prisma kiln
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oh i kept him as berserker

cobalt heart
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Most things in this game are “roster bound” so u don’t have to worry too much

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1580 is still pretty low so

turbid flame
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can do Akkan, Kayangel, Brel for gold

cobalt heart
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Do solo modes on your berserker -> use those solo mode tokens to buy mats for your other character to hone it

turbid flame
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can't buy oreha from solo mode vendor KEKDog

cobalt heart
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Wait rlly

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Doesn’t 1370 ilvl use blue oreha

turbid flame
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gonna be a little, level 1387 rn

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requires 1415 to buy the oreha

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from the vendor

cobalt heart
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Oh fakk

turbid flame
cobalt heart
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Lmao

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It’s jooooeeever

prisma kiln
turbid flame
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like I said

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stronghold farm

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use those mats to craft bound oreha

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hone

cobalt heart
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Stronghold farm number 1 scam

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But he has no choice

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Gg

drowsy idol
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which one is better?

or use the right one just for Full swing proc?

minor briar
drowsy idol
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is there a way to switch them faster?

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or equip them through the inventory is the only way?

balmy plank
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Doesnt get faster than 2 clicks to open inventory and equip no

drowsy idol
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to bad ;s

livid fossil
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2 clicks to much OMEGALUL

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So I got to basement ok and i could not see shit not sure how I got hit with darkness

cobalt heart
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It can get kinda annoying swapping all the time

livid fossil
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Yes I get stuck on that or the typing mech deadge

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Space bar sometimes works though dark but otherwise i stutter through it cause it doesn’t dash through it

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One more try for guys in the back

rose jewel
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whats your ping

cobalt heart
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Thaemine has a couple darkness patterns but aside from that there is a darkness cloud that’s summoned on the outer edge that might catch u off guard in basement

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After 50x it starts growing from the centre intstead

rose jewel
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i doubt he has ever got to the final basement part

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he dies to the typing

cobalt heart
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Oh

rose jewel
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just so youre informed

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he has attempted to beat thae and failed for the last like... 2 months

fallen canyon
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thats crazy

minor igloo
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It gets cut short if you issue a command before the "full" spacebar is done

cobalt heart
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Thaemine got hands I guess

rose jewel
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a whole 2 of them

cobalt heart
pastel prairie
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hi im a new player lvling for first time

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how do i choose story express

fallen canyon
vagrant veldt
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can i ask an opinion on the various classes?

fallen canyon
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what classes, leme see if i can answer em

vagrant veldt
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machinist mainly

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and then secondly the assassins

fallen canyon
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tell me bout the assassins, idk machinists KEKW

vagrant veldt
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well actually quick question before ive played GT destro and bluelancer so i understand the idea of playing front classes that just ignore minor mechs, can you also do that on breaker

fallen canyon
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on asura yes, on bk its non pos if im not mistaken

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anw, quick tldr on assassins
se - good non pos class, both spec fine, fmh better
reaper - xdd
db - rip surge, re to the moon

vagrant veldt
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surge is dead?

fallen canyon
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yea, a lil bit of portion still plays it tho

vagrant veldt
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i made a surge db because i thought the idea of big number was fun but it turns out it really doesnt mesh with my playstyle

fallen canyon
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oh i forgot sh, i think di is the better class compared to the other one

cobalt heart
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Surge rework next patch

vagrant veldt
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and re doesnt do hold skills as much anymore right?

cobalt heart
vagrant veldt
cobalt heart
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I was joking

vagrant veldt
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oh despairge

cobalt heart
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It gets an 8% buff next patch

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Iirc

fallen canyon
vagrant veldt
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wat da

fallen canyon
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its prolly 2nd or 3rd broken class along ws and sf

vagrant veldt
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im selling surge gem get me out of here

cobalt heart
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Play RE

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Imo is a lot of fun

fallen canyon
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ye jus play re

cobalt heart
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Ur surge goes through the boss with 4th node and is 100% BA

fallen canyon
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tbf any class can be good as long as you know how to actually play them, repear is legit xdd on average players but i know some ppl who are really good with it

vagrant veldt
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its ok im not super worried about whats good

cobalt heart
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Lunar catDespair

vagrant veldt
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these are mostly alts anyways my main arcana is sitting pretty

fallen canyon
pastel prairie
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why is reaper considered hard 😮

cobalt heart
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Lunar is

fallen canyon
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mfs on kr cant play arcana so that shit is still broken

vagrant veldt
cobalt heart
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Bs design in t4

cobalt heart
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If you miss any back attacks ERRRR start again no stacks

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And even at ceiling it’s not that broken

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Truly despair class

vagrant veldt
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SE is good fun

fallen canyon
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^

cobalt heart
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But u might have trouble in pf

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Shit ton of them now at every ilvl

fallen canyon
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personslly i only played se so thats the only class i can vouch

vagrant veldt
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tbh i have exactly 1 toon at t4 right now so pf isnt my problem

fallen canyon
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also since u have db jus go re

cobalt heart
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Ya

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I play both at 1690+ and lowkey have more fun on my blade

vagrant veldt
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its reassuring to hear im not alone in feeling bad about surge

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uh my next question is basically

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i tried reading and i cant get like a vibe on what the two se engravings play like

cobalt heart
fallen canyon
vagrant veldt
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it feels like my drizzle aero but im also melee and its also denying me the one button that does the number

cobalt heart
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Yea surge needs more class knowledge and on the spot thinking

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To know how to make up for losses like boss moving out of stack generators

vagrant veldt
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which is fine but my class knowledge on the spot thinking is almost entirely absorbed into arcana combos

cobalt heart
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Ya fair enough lol that class is harder imo

fallen canyon
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you would prolly have a hard time moving on fmh cus its a spec/crit so shes gona be a bit slow, ne is crit/swift so shes smooth to move with. in terms of dmg, fmh brings out a lot of dmg with low effort, on ne its a bit harder to pump on that class cus you have to play "perfectly" cus missing a single skill is detrimental to ne's dps output

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also ne's t skill sucks balls

vagrant veldt
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im mostly a spec gamer so being a bit immobile isnt a huge downside

cobalt heart
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If u do decide to play SE the chat is pretty helpful and active

cobalt heart
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Judgement frfr

fallen canyon
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It’s so nice after leap node tho

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Before that it was cringe I agree

fallen canyon
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but ye

cobalt heart
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Ya it’s a massive diff

fallen canyon
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shits so ass when im on snatch and my t skill isnt there to match

vagrant veldt
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is fmh more or less the standard "cast normal skills to fill meter, press z then use your spec skills"

fallen canyon
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NE with full leap now you use it every soul snatch + it’s one big number

fallen canyon
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was ne enjoyer until i played fmh

fallen canyon
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I like both

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I swapped back to fmh after brel prog

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It’s just so much more chill

fallen canyon
cobalt heart
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Lmao true

fallen canyon
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with ne if i got knocked out, im gona crash out

vagrant veldt
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any other input on classes that are fun (subjective)? the other ones im really liking are empress arcana, destro (both engravings), and pinnacle Glaive

cobalt heart
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NE also plays different after u get max enlighten + leap tree

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More thinking

fallen canyon
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and aero

vagrant veldt
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holy peak

vagrant veldt
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and by peak i mean not peak

fallen canyon
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bt ye i think on my rosters, i only own one broken class and its se

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rest are dogs

cobalt heart
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I am truly a dog

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My whole roster is meta classes

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Fakk

fallen canyon
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but im having fun playing them

cobalt heart
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Not my fault they’re fun CAUGHT

fallen canyon
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I just made them as they came out

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Had db since like I started the game

vagrant veldt
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are there humans that play artillerist in year 2025

cobalt heart
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Yea a lot

fallen canyon
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ye

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they pump

cobalt heart
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Arti is actually pretty strong

fallen canyon
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yuh

cobalt heart
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And their t skill is like fireworks

fallen canyon
vagrant veldt
cobalt heart
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Fpe is still a meme

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As always

fallen canyon
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the other one is better

vagrant veldt
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figures

cobalt heart
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But it’s not bad😂

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Like it still performs

fallen canyon
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ye performs better than my pistoleer

cobalt heart
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om

vagrant veldt
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sharpshooter still zdps?

cobalt heart
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I don’t know

fallen canyon
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Death strike is still decent I think

vagrant veldt
cobalt heart
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The birdy one is erm

vagrant veldt
cobalt heart
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Lvl 10 gems and 25 wep full books won’t even help u there

pastel prairie
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is there a way to try out classes

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at what point does the calass feels like that class.. if that mkaes sense

cobalt heart
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Manifest ignite server

fallen canyon
vagrant veldt
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should i ressurect bluelancer

fallen canyon
cobalt heart
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No

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Play red

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So u can be like DAN the GOAT

fallen canyon
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aint red sucks

cobalt heart
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🗣️

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No only real gigachads play red

fallen canyon
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true

vagrant veldt
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me when i play a tank class and build straight damage

cobalt heart
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Why would you play gunlancer

fallen canyon
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And not USE THE GUNLANCE

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????????

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Blue 🚮

fallen canyon
vagrant veldt
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who did i miss

cobalt heart
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Breaker

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?

vagrant veldt
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i mentioned offhand once

cobalt heart
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Are u returning btw?

vagrant veldt
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i do like front attack tank classes if you didnt notice

cobalt heart
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Oh

vagrant veldt
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i would say yes

cobalt heart
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You might enjoy asura then

vagrant veldt
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you learn the raid mechs so you can avoid damage, i learn raid mechs so i can time my GT bonk mode

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we are not the same

pastel prairie
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really wna see what htey feel like b4 i commit a time

cobalt heart
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I started the game as a gunlancer player I cleared valtan without knowing what the yellow aoe means AINTNOWAY

cobalt heart
fallen canyon
cobalt heart
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If u have the class

vagrant veldt
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my first was sf and i didnt even make it to valtan before giving that one up

cobalt heart
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If u don’t have it already then it’s kinda gg

pastel prairie
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even at lvl 10 i can try them out if i have the class?

fallen canyon
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i was about to ask that

cobalt heart
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Uhh

fallen canyon
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cause i dont know either

cobalt heart
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I’m not sure

pastel prairie
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im really new lol

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i started today 😮

fallen canyon
cobalt heart
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Maybe u can KT to north Vern with 600g

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Then song to trixion and try it out

pastel prairie
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i dont think i ahve 1 gold 😦

cobalt heart
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Cuz I think it’s fully available now with the ark passive overhaul

pastel prairie
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ok so later i can try them out

fallen canyon
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wait it says u joined 2021 suscat

vagrant veldt
pastel prairie
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i joiuned discord ages ago

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ya thats true

foggy heart
cobalt heart
pastel prairie
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but i literally started today haha

fallen canyon
cobalt heart
fallen canyon
pastel prairie
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isnt using that powerpass on class if i doint like it wasting it

fallen canyon
cobalt heart
foggy heart
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Don't you get a free power pass per region?

cobalt heart
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Then try and decide from there

pastel prairie
foggy heart
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So you can try on an eu account before committing

foggy heart
pastel prairie
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ohh really

fallen canyon
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oh yea you can try 3 classes and try em on trixion

pastel prairie
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i think im on the b one

foggy heart
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I think so, maybe someone can confirm

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Okay

fallen canyon
foggy heart
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I can send you like 1000g if you want

pastel prairie
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so to try them out

foggy heart
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I'm on brel

pastel prairie
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i can go to dif regions

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i guess i can make a quick alt

fallen canyon
foggy heart
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If you want to try a class make a character on EU/nae then with the pass

pastel prairie
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uhhh thatd be nice 1000g is that good

foggy heart
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Then you can use the pass on your main acct

fallen canyon
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well, 2 classes since you wana save your powerpass on your main region which is naw im assuming

foggy heart
pastel prairie
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Oliveowner is my char 😮

foggy heart
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I can send you tomorrow

fallen canyon
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okay, 3 classes then cus coffee will send u money

foggy heart
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Okie, I'm gonna sleep now but I'll do it tomorrow afternoon

pastel prairie
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thank you

fallen canyon
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ngl its my first time knowing u can buy powerpass with gold

cobalt heart
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Coffee is literally

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The goodest person in this game

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Techno spitting fax

vagrant veldt
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one last check is there anyone who would make an argument for AS machinist

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instead of giving up on him

cobalt heart
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As?

vagrant veldt
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ill take that as a no

cobalt heart
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I have an argument

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2 gem class is good efficiency CAUGHT

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U sure u wanna give that up

vagrant veldt
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no thats the other one

cobalt heart
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Oh you play the at scooter

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I think u should play iron man

vagrant veldt
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im playing iron man rn

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i just find it to be very boring

cobalt heart
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Oh

fallen canyon
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im d1 scouter hater

cobalt heart
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Are u front attacking your echelon beams? Hmm

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And comboing ur skills

fallen canyon
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at t3 they fucking suck ass, t4 they beat my pistoleer sadgies

cobalt heart
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Lmfao

fallen canyon
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i still hate it tho

vagrant veldt
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i mean i got the rotation right i think

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its basically a fixed 20sec rotation isnt it

cobalt heart
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Idk

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I don’t play it

vagrant veldt
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and then +2 more for getting meter back

cobalt heart
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Yea

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If u play it like it’s supposed to be played and find it boring

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No prablem

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Reroll to blade

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You’ll love it

vagrant veldt
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correction i already have blade

cobalt heart
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It’s time to push that girl

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To grow her wings

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And fly

vagrant veldt
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maybe i should be clear i have arcana destro glaive db aero and iron man

cobalt heart
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Oh ur db is in ur 6

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Do you care about damage?

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Like

vagrant veldt
#

and im basically just chatting to get a sense of what else might be fun

vagrant veldt
cobalt heart
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Personally

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Red lancer is fun

vagrant veldt
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like id rather deal damage than no damage but im not taking it too seriously outside arcana atm

cobalt heart
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Yea red does decent damage if you’re good

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And not just that

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Bis synergy

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And u can play princess maker

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Gl is a good alt and fun alt if you have pig friends

fallen canyon
vagrant veldt
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guaranteed instant pf if i recall

fallen canyon
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look at vegeta vouching for gl

cobalt heart
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I used to play with my princess maker friend in brel every week until he quit

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It’s lonely now

fallen canyon
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a 1680 gl is like golden scar for db players

cobalt heart
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Nobody to make me a princess

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Lmfao

cobalt heart
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So real

fallen canyon
cobalt heart
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Lowkey was thinking of replacing my aero with a gl next express

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But I have no pig blade friends

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So I guess I won’t

vagrant veldt
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bluelancer doesnt even run master brawler wtf

cobalt heart
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Yea it’s not a front attacker

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U just try to front attack a few skills for the 20% dmg

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But not everything is

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Was it 20 or 10% for front attacking skills

vagrant veldt
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anyways redlancer isnt cringe or like fake or whatever these days?

fallen canyon
cobalt heart
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Wdym by cringe or fake

vagrant veldt
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i guess for the frontback synergy it doesnt matter which engraving

cobalt heart
cobalt heart
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Play blue if u wanna be a snail

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🐌

fallen canyon
cobalt heart
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Red if y wanna be a gigachad

vagrant veldt
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super charge master brawler barricade?

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thats a class for real gamers

cobalt heart
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It gives 20% on that skill if u hit it

fallen canyon
cobalt heart
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There’s a problem rn tho

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T skill isn’t charge on red lancer

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Devs just decided to leave half their brain in the fridge when making his T skill

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It gains no efficiency from supercharge and is a pretty big dmg %

vagrant veldt
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wait is rh destro t skill charge

cobalt heart
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Ye

vagrant veldt
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anyways i appreciate the input

fallen canyon
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ye if u dont make a pistoleer im guna find u

vagrant veldt
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obviously i hold until pass because its treu iron man is maybe the cheapest class ever made

fallen canyon
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that and the other sh evo class

vagrant veldt
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this asshole doesnt even scale off of tripods

fallen canyon
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theres another honing event coming so u gona eventually pick soon

vagrant veldt
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oh i guess i do have one question

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should i make a support

fallen canyon
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imo yea

cobalt heart
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I wouldnt rn

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Next express is sup class

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Idk how it is in NAW but there’s a dps drought nearly everywhere except aegir hm 💀

vagrant veldt
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rly?

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OH because everyone just solos?

fallen canyon
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kinda crazy cus 2w ago everyone is like sup+fr

cobalt heart
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Yea

fallen canyon
cobalt heart
vagrant veldt
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how did that happen they didnt make any supp classes since artiste?

cobalt heart
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Those 6x sup rosters rlly shining bright these days

fallen canyon
cobalt heart
fallen canyon
cobalt heart
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Make one if u wanna play one

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Artist is nice

fallen canyon
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not so sure, but ye 2w ago ever since feb whole lobby is finding sup+fri. last week started the dps drought

cobalt heart
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But just be ready to have the same experience as dps in pf if ur sup isn’t very geared 💀

winged oxide
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dont make a supp

cobalt heart
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Oh no

winged oxide
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Legit one of the most worst experiences you can have in game

fallen canyon
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^

winged oxide
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Bad investment nothing feels like an improvement nothing changes your gameplay

cobalt heart
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Yoey is trauma dumping

fallen canyon
winged oxide
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the differnece between a 1370 supp and a 1700 supp is luminary and yearning

fallen canyon
vagrant veldt
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probably stupid question kurzan front just replaces chaos dungeon right which means i should go solo?

cobalt heart
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Yea

fallen canyon
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you party up with chaos?

vagrant veldt
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no

fallen canyon
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oh

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i thought someone parties up with it

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last time i party someone with chaos it was with my gf

vagrant veldt
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was one of you saying reaper is bad right

fallen canyon
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its both of us

vagrant veldt
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or maybe not bad but definitely uh

fallen canyon
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but ye its xdd class, unless u really want to play it

vagrant veldt
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why everyone running mpe these days btw

cobalt heart
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Hunger you’ll get carpal tunnel for no reason

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Lunar you’ll just die inside

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For no reason again

fallen canyon
vagrant veldt
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surely thats like

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market economy paradox or sth

fallen canyon
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with relic engravings introduced, ye it is

vagrant veldt
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if everyone buys the cheap books then they arent cheap books anymore i think

fallen canyon
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i wish thats the case

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cus for 4 months adrenaline is still 350k

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mpe is like two digit and its also been like that ever since january

cobalt heart
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A lot of classes can’t use mpe

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So some people luck out with 6x classes who use it

fallen canyon
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but ye its cheap so lot of ppl that can use mpe invest on it

vagrant veldt
cobalt heart
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Same as ppl who play destro gl and a bunch of barricade classes

vagrant veldt
fallen canyon
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adren and grudge are prolly two staple dps engravings

vagrant veldt
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catch me buying barricade books and stones for pennies on the dollar baby

cobalt heart
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Yea

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Like I can’t buy mpe

vagrant veldt
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wahts so aintnoway about it smh

cobalt heart
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Cause only 1 of my classes can use it

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And I’m not even fmh all the time I swap between both soecs

cobalt heart
vagrant veldt
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was alas

cobalt heart
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Give T skill a rune problem solved

vagrant veldt
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holy

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if they do that im back on barricade instantly

cobalt heart
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I doubt they would

vagrant veldt
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they wouldnt

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card draw too valuable need wealth

cobalt heart
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Fair enuff

vagrant veldt
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like when you have 10% to draw "next spell gets 50%crit dmg" then youd be insane to not mill for it 247

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go ahead erm say the line again

fallen canyon
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fk ur class

cobalt heart
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Yea yea then u get ghost card

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Zzzz

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Twisted fate with 0 damage

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Zzzz

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Press restart

vagrant veldt
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ignore collision with monsters Poggers

fallen canyon
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u can run through brelshaza with that?

cobalt heart
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My friend got fakkin cull and wheel in atro for his t skill one time

vagrant veldt
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i dont think it works on bosses

fallen canyon
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L card

cobalt heart
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Dps Shot up out of nowhere

cobalt heart
fallen canyon
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it should work ngl that looks fun

vagrant veldt
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im 90% its considered a dead draw

fallen canyon
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they need to rework the card

cobalt heart
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No they don’t

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Frfrfr

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Let them have shitter cards

vagrant veldt
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its true they should buff arcana i think

fallen canyon
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what am i saying

fallen canyon
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If they increase chance for good cards it’s joever for us team

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Fakk that class

fallen canyon
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kr mfs cant play it and the class havent gotten nerf for fuckin years

vagrant veldt
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yeah ghost star are like

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the only reason the class gets to be good i think

cobalt heart
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Star Despairko

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A remanent of the past

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A card that was useful once upon a time

vagrant veldt
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i remember when they reworked it so it didnt kill mana hunger or wtv it was called

fallen canyon
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oom

vagrant veldt
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(before that it was literally a dps loss to use in most cases)

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OoM

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OoOoOom

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No prablem

thorny heath
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also any p2w abidos packs that are viable currently or planned after next patch?

vagrant veldt
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sorry to keep saying thanks and coming back with more but where do people park alts these days

fallen canyon
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should be 1680 next week

thorny heath
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1600 for completely new chars (waiting for nerfs from 1600-1620)
1640
1660

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if you spend alot on your alts, could be 1680 after AH nerfs this week

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Get to logging sir

thorny heath
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as in pretty good deal

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nah fuck logging

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i do stronghold life skills that's about it

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can't be arsed to do that shit too

vagrant veldt
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any loggers prayge

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Yeh idk if u know but

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Life skilling in this economy rn is like insane money CAUGHT

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Only true whales don’t pick up the axe

thorny heath
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which requires time which i don't have

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Fair

vagrant veldt
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this might be a dumb question whos buying the wood

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like is there a wood sink im unaware of

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repairing ships n shit

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but like once every blue moon

fallen canyon
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fallen canyon
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cus abidos is now to the moon

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104g euc

fallen canyon