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No:(
check what tist sent
nothing seems to help in the article, gonna validate the files and restart the router and retry
I need to f b for stupid cooking ingredient
change DNS
try aswell clearing download
havent heard them, just google says founder: IBM, looks to be official
can you not use bound tool craft part to make tools?
sadly nope because there's a bound craft i think thats the cause of this
validating fixed it, ty
so is there a special crafting recipe for "bound tools" lol??
I couldn't find anything at the exchange
yea, under special tab there
So Im back and Im wondering, I have a piece of gear with lv10 honing finished. aka 1630. If I transfer this one piece into t4, when I unlock the 10-20 advance hone, will I need t4 resources, or is it t3 since I started the 1-10 with t3?
itll use t4 resources
doesnt matter if you had used it on t3 before
if its a t4 gear, its using t4 resources no matter
besides, you dont want to go back to t3 to farm stuff for adv. hone, its counterproductive
which life skill is better to focus on if u wanna craft fusions
t3 or t4 ?
I remember ppl saying it was a must to do it on t3 before transfering, is it still that bad to just advance hone in t4?
depends on market
advices changes
and gold
it gets nerfed wednesday anyway, so doing advanced honing now would be giga stupid
^
and dont stay t3 just for that
stuff usually wont be set in stone forever, game changes
https://la-tools.com/crafting-calculator
- add lowest price of fusion on item
- add material every lifeskilling materials on materials
- add infos about your stronghold shit in settings
tables below should tell u which life skill makes you more money
he never said he wanted to sell, he just wanted to craft
yeaaah if hes not in t4, he has more limited options
thats why i asked if he was in t3 or t4
oh
i dont wanna sell, i want to know which life skill is more worth putting my time into for farming fusion mats
yes so
ye log duo it is
4
haha get ignored
log prog
im sad
hi sad
what would be the best for t3? for my alts
excavating
alts?
oke ty
wait wait
alts?
accounts or characters
characters
i know
....
but when i want to farm mats for my alts
i also want to know what life skill i should do for them
what are your alts ilvl ?
once you use your energy your alts aint going to use it
t4 log, sell, buy t3 orehas
i never said i would farm mats for them on the same day
cause it gone one the first toon
1580
ok so
i would suggest to not hone your alts without express event
thats all
unless youre masochist
and you like pain
im not honing on my main forever, when i decide to park my main and focus on my alts i will use my energy for them
having only 1 character is pain
i need the variety or i will kms
yes and no
oh
ok i see
well it would still be better to not hone topo much alts to 1620
rn XD
ags made an article that suggest that it will get nerfed
at some point
i think summer personally
in the near FUTURE
even if i had the gold to do that, i will not
ok good
whats the best method to increase roster level?
more alts
Tower, main story quest, cubes across all characters
make alt, do tower and main story (later instances), delete alt, make new alt repeat
horizontaaallll
you will hate yourself so just dont do it
find people to play with, roster doesnt equal hands
hm okay, ill try tower and horizontals. making and deleting alt seems hardcore haha
roster is something you dont really farm for, it comes over time
unless you hate yourself
is there a way to sell tears of the abyss?
each player can buy their own and its only for sailors, so no
no one would buy them anyway
think theres like 8sailors and then its useless, u gain like 3tears from collectible
I am like 211 and I hate myself
im a little confused. I just hit 1600 ilvl using the challenge express thing. Should i craft the akkan gear or do I just stay with the gear I have now and upgrade the "faith brand set"?
oh ok. so i just use this armor until tier 4?
ty
then you transfer to t4
and then uninstall
real
is left better because more kicks?
no, you want the one with more rare drop rate

aye men dont snitch me like that 
wbu tho 
y u roll legendary?
I quit after clearing brel.hm
only female archer will bring me back now

fair 

i know someone crashed out when wildsoul got released instead of fem archer
valid crashout ngl

setsura and his people

i started as male archer, no idea if there be female many years ago
i mean anyone thinking specialist wouldnt get a third class is stupid af
well think with your brain instead of another organ
glad we think the same 
ye this stinky arna acting like he doesnt have darek

darek legit thinks with pp 99%

ya a cat no?
Returning player here. Just hit 1610 and finished Echidna on the Challenge Express. I need to make my push to 1620 but I def don't have enough materials. Any recommendations on different things I can do the earn the materials I need? I got my event guardiant token turn ins already. Anything else?
?gold
Gold Sources
Tradable Gold is gold that can be used to purchase items from the Market/Auction House as well as be traded to other players.
- Legion Commander Raids
- Kazeros Raids
- Abyssal Dungeons
- Adventure Island Gold Reward
- Fate Embers (gold is withheld)
- Life Skills
- Selling tradeable items on Marketplace/Auction House.
- Content Bids
- Completing Super Mokoko Express Events (gold is withheld)
- Royal Crystal Exchange (gold is withheld)
Bound Gold is used exclusively for progression systems.
- Gold Reward Chests from Una's Tokens
- Solo Mode Raids
indigo and buzzling islands for a small amount of mats, doing your dailies, unas, weeklies, all the events you can get (except frog, frog fucking sucks)
?shards
Weekly Resets:
- Event Shop
- Tea & Libra Guild Vessel (outside all ports; Tier 3 shards only)
- Guild Shop
- PvP Vendor
- Kayangel/Akkan/Echidna Shop (Tier 3; random chance from mat box)
- Behemoth/Echidna Shop (Tier 4; random chance from mat box)
- Weekly Una Tasks
- Raid Boxes
Daily Resets:
- Chaos Dungeon
- Guardian Raid
- Daily Una Tasks
- (select days) Chaos Gate
One Time Rewards:
- Punika/Elgacia/Pleccia/Voldis/South & North Kurzan Completion(Tier 3)
- Tower (Fortunespire for T3)
- Legion Raid Exchange Vendor (Clown/Brel/Akkan marks)
- Chaos Line Vendor (Weekly entry)
- Moko Island Vendor (Daily entry)
- Indigo Island (Daily Entry)
- Buzzling Island (Daily Entry, Hourly minigame)
- Ark Pass (event that comes in seasons)
Paid Sources:
- (gold) Auction House
- (gold/bc) Mari’s Shop
- (rc) Silvery Honor Pack
- (rc) Honing Packs (less value for shards alone)
Courtesy of daisies
other than that, no, its a slow push event with the event and shards are the usual gatekeepers
but yeah you can get stuff from the commands above
not a lot but will help
we gona have an event again on wed so hopefully u can benefit from that as 1610
its been endless events, barely any breaks
We need more breaks no more events
"events"
We're on an extended period of no major content right now
i dont call that stupid event GR an actual event, that was more like a torture
yea, tbf were on a break rn until june
Same, I stopped after week 1
and its been like this since february
same, i only grabbed some things i felt were necessary but after that meh
definitely dry on abidos events 
Which is the best option?
middle for higher average
i'll probably catch flack for this, but i usually do Large chest, then 2 small safes or just work my way down the list of what i have left to afford 
last one if u want 10k gamba
yeah i'm sure most people do middle though

Last time i did gamba i got the 10k then went into chaos dungeon and got honing mats lol off ember
i wish they would've kept the x2 token event
i missed th 3rd clash then icouldnt maKE IT out of the yellow in time my lock
new player here, what's good to grind for lvl 500+ gear other than chaos dungeons? didnt realize it could only be done once a day
you need the gear from chaos so then you cna hone it no other way
well im missing everything but a helmet and a ring lmao at 465 rn honed 2 pieces
Chaos, Unas are kind of it. Island quest have a variety of rewards that might give some low tier mats
You could ask Area Chat while at sea if anyone could help you with a guardian raid for more mats each day
okay solid, im doing Unas atm for more of that stuff to hone things
ahh okay so just helmet then is all i need, i only have my chest honed rn, after i finish this quest i can hone one more
Can I do every single solo dungeon per week for the currency? or am i limited
Sure. You only get gold from 3 so make sure to manage that correctly but you can do every raid once a week
i do not know what the powerpass is no
Tldr is
Its a story skipper that will get you to a way higher ilvl
Everyone has access to a free powerpass right now. Its basically a story skip. It takes you to Level 60, item level 1585, & the South Kurzan continent (2nd to last story continent)
helllllll no ive skipped everything lmao been speeding thru
same with WoW, just trynna get to end game content really
On the character selection screen
Theres a button middle bottom
Powerpass
Do event
And then you will be able to select it
A powerpass is technically a ticket that takes your selected character to the designated point in the game, depending on which powerpass it is
Offering you the gear and items
You can choose that character or a second one
might choose a second one to try lowkey and keep my berserker as the main grinder the long way
pause
Yep sure
Pausing
this game is a lot of fun tho just been looking to get into the community a bit
okay so i chose the event pass and im at trixion do i skip the adventurers path
You can skip the whole thing if you don't care about the items rewarded from completing them
Skipping to endgame introduces a whole lot of stuff and it might be overwhelming so some places to start after are
- set up character build with the help of lostark.nexus class guides
- Challenge Express event, icon beside minimap
- Arkesia Tour, icon beside minimap
Express valtan 
?quickstart
Quickstart Resources
Class Selection Advice Guide
Beginner & Returner's Guide
Ark Passive System Guide
T3 Gear Progression Guide by Icy058
Maxroll Beginner Class Guides
Ask for questions and help in #lost-ark-help. (Check pins!)
Also check #1113635777004445768 and #guides-and-info for updated resources organized.
Consider reading #lao-faq and #navigation if you are brand new to the discord.
Our #new-player-tips covers an overview of the main components of Lost Ark.
GGYATTTTTTT yall goin crazy lmao
Glhf
Beginner guide linked above will have an inventory setup thing too which will help sort through the tons of items youre about to get

Baltan valtan
Welcome to the start of endgame
Youre jumping into the deep end so there is a lot to cover
so what type of content is available at this skip level instantly, like is that raid level and such or
lmao im down to dive into all of it, i play MMO's all the time so
https://youtu.be/Ad7xL5eSpOo?si=VNbgKPRkq8gTiYO8 this is the core importance
With Ark Passive soon to be available to everyone, I felt like it was a good time to have an overview video going over each tab in ark passive, as well as how to get points/manage each tab.
Thanks for watching guys and if you liked the video then leave a thumbs up or subscribe if you'd like! It's always much appreciated.
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Youll have access to most of the solo raids. Relevant chaos, guardians. Relevant mats many people use. The last of the tier 3 gear.
The group raids can be kind of dead, or difficult to find learning groups for but solo is a huge lifesaver
dope dope, i didnt know if that was possible cause ik most MMO raids are typically party
already got my timbers shivering
Youll be fine. Making sure to set up your char build will make a big difference. Raids can be challenging at first tho. even the easiest solo raids
Nah I'm fucking around with you. Only said it that way since it's from the very first solo raid boss content, that is a very watered down version of its original, and most first-timers couldn't handle the combat and working around in learning

what are these annihilation and crimson flame gems
solid so what do i do w them because theres like 20 stacks of them in my inventory 
Pretty straighforward, CD gems give skill cooldown, damage gives the skill more damage. There is a gem NPC in major cities where you can reroll them to the skills you need
based on your class and skills you want to equip the right ones with for the abilties on your skill rotation
im playing berserker and thats about all i know for classes, i saw it goes deeper into it and theres a lot of different names for each class and sub class n allat so i have zero clue lmao
needa check that video
Alright
Let's get into the meat of that
There's two class stances you choose from
Think of it as your class style
Each class style you're playing on demands a certain build
in that build is where we'll be figuring out what you should set up
Has anyone been leveling roster recently? Was via main story quests on fresh characters (no transfer/powerpass). How to optimize it? Should I still run lvl1-50 content or knowledge transfer to somewhere?
I KT Vern and then do tower, and then story after that as I hone the char
As in farming roster levels? or just leveling alts?
Purely for roster level (150->200ish)
KT skips story and does nothing to get exp. Manually questing, doing T1 & T2 towers, cubes are still the best bet for roster xp farming.
imma check the guide rn
did you use your powerpass & character express already @cloud lake ?
yes i did
im currently trynna figure everything out lmao
is blunt thorns or mana forge better, theres pros and cons to both but im new so lmao
You won't be getting to the fourth tier nodes anyway soon
Actually you might, just for one node level
Mana forge, might be better? You wont have a huge amount of crit from extra sources just yet to fully use blunt thorn
But I also dont play the class and could be wrong
i'd go MPF if you're new
BT tends benefit a lot from heavy investment in an endgame character
currently on the order of 20mil+ gold investment between books and accessories i think?
kinda needs relic adr iirc
goddamn lmao
oh does the BT mayhem build not even need adr? zerker broken
berserk broken? nerf CO sum even more then
what's the best engraving effects for berserker?
What does your class guide say?
@cloud lake
uhhhh where do i check that
?berserker
In this guide
ahhh okay i see
okay ive got stuff situated for the most part, what should i start with content wise?
bet
Then you can go akkan solo mode to get a bit of gold
is gold a lame ahh grind like WoW is lmao cause i just use sky coach and pay for gold on there
is tour just for like material grinding?
chatting
I uh, wouldn't recommend advertising that you RMT
what are these like protection, obliteration, and honor leapstones for
man i got a lotta questions
getting into an MMO YEARSSSSSS after it came out is so intense every time lmao
TLDR: Tour is a "boost" through many of the collectibles in the game. Many of these aren't for cosmetics, but rather direct power gain to your character(s). It'll come in the form of skill points, stats, etc. It's an event that doesn't expire that you can partake in once per roster since those collectbles are roster shared.
you know the dps was bad when you get mvp
They're used for gear enhancement (honing). There are different stages and even tiers to your gear. Each type will have a different name.
or more specifically me
Dam I wasn’t in group lol 😂
is she even 1660
And I think she surge db re lol
have you killed Thaemine yet?
uhm so im doing the express dungeon thing and had bro like quarter health and just got one shot at full healt whats that all about lmao
What you mean extra learning I get my extra learning from dying in g3 do cause I dashed infront of his stupid sword
which gate? 1 or 2?
3
after teh 3rd clash
zero clue hold on
Are you fighting the Wolves in the Valtan raid?
was it a big werewolf, or pig boi?
that's a wolf
i dashed into sword byacident cause i didnt see where he hit it i was to far off
Yea, Valtan raid. Mind screenshotting your char for me? 
Also for raids Deathboi on youtube has guides for solo raids. Most youll need to know mechs for
If you dont complete those mechs theyll wipe the raid
Legion raid and abyssal dungeons will have mechanics that will one shot you (or your entire raid group) if not cleared in a certain way. Maxroll.gg website has solo mode and group mode guides on each one.
one moment, okay so he does that attack where he slams the ground and it all goes black and thats where i get one shot
Probably the first mech where you collect balls

that game is indeed painful 😂
Played from beta d1 to forsaken. Pretty much hard quit after that. Came back for Final Shape to finish it off. Now I'm really done.
Same, but I made it a little further than forsaken and never came back
yeah me and my homie grinded forever for the whole time the games existed and then bungie started doing the legit worst things ever until final shape lmao and then more trash again
also all I’m seeing is the Valtan dude nothing about the predator dude
it's Valtan gate 1
is what you're fighting now
did you look at the pic I shared? that's pretty much the only mechanic for the wolf guy
ahhh I see
People usually call raids by the main boss. Demon Beast Canyon is the raid but Valtan is the Gate 2 big boss
Its actually not as bad as it seams. The real hard part is not getting knocked off the edge
Each "Gate" is a raid boss. Valtan has 2 gates
The Wolves from G1 splitting into 2 is a unique part of that fight. Theyre all typically against 1 boss
how do i even go about doing an abyss raid or a dungeon, i need people but there’s never anything for matching and to find a party is always empty 😭
You do solo mode
i thought i needed people for those?
Old abyssal you ain’t gonna find anyone
old abyssals are dead content
if it has a solo mode, odds are people do solo mode
exception being Thaemine
and some hard modes for pets / wings
Not for solo mode. All tier 3 raids have a solo mode. If youre talking about the super old t1 & t2 dungeons, you just dont do em
how do i go about doing argos solo?
Ppl used to run old abyssals for cards but nobody needs them anymore from there
U don’t
oh so both are dead content, great lmao
You just dont do Argos in general these days
you don't "need" to do Argos
you can go straight from epic gear to Relic gear w/ Valtan
Yup everyone is in t3/t4 content now so “legion raid” and “kazeros raid”
Argos is a long past progression point
Use the power pass if you have it
you just hone your regular gear
It’ll get u 1580 so u can start to see some solo modes
it doesn't get increased honing odds if it goes legendary
used it on another character testing it out and didn’t realize it’s only on one character
but all good

yeah honing my gear is a bit of a pain
Where would u even farm mats for ur gear level
you can always use the powerpassed char to get gold to boost the char you're on currently
Like the oreha
i’m just buying it w gold
Hrm
thought about this but never got to it
What character did u use the pass on
regular hold transferred between both characters?
just a random one i made lmao
I mean what’s the class
Gold is rosterwide
oh i kept him as berserker
Most things in this game are “roster bound” so u don’t have to worry too much
1580 is still pretty low so
can do Akkan, Kayangel, Brel for gold
Do solo modes on your berserker -> use those solo mode tokens to buy mats for your other character to hone it
can't buy oreha from solo mode vendor 
Oh fakk


which one is better?
or use the right one just for Full swing proc?
right ye, pins have a tier list for lines
thank you 🙂
is there a way to switch them faster?
or equip them through the inventory is the only way?
Doesnt get faster than 2 clicks to open inventory and equip no
to bad ;s
2 clicks to much 
So I got to basement ok and i could not see shit not sure how I got hit with darkness
It can get kinda annoying swapping all the time
Thaemine?
Yes I get stuck on that or the typing mech 
Space bar sometimes works though dark but otherwise i stutter through it cause it doesn’t dash through it
One more try for guys in the back
whats your ping
Thaemine has a couple darkness patterns but aside from that there is a darkness cloud that’s summoned on the outer edge that might catch u off guard in basement
After 50x it starts growing from the centre intstead
Oh
just so youre informed
he has attempted to beat thae and failed for the last like... 2 months
thats crazy
Your spacebar immunity lasts quite a bit
It gets cut short if you issue a command before the "full" spacebar is done
Oh…
Thaemine got hands I guess

a whole 2 of them

sadly we didnt got story express in gl ver.
can i ask an opinion on the various classes?
what classes, leme see if i can answer em
tell me bout the assassins, idk machinists 
well actually quick question before ive played GT destro and bluelancer so i understand the idea of playing front classes that just ignore minor mechs, can you also do that on breaker
on asura yes, on bk its non pos if im not mistaken
anw, quick tldr on assassins
se - good non pos class, both spec fine, fmh better
reaper - xdd
db - rip surge, re to the moon
surge is dead?
yea, a lil bit of portion still plays it tho
i made a surge db because i thought the idea of big number was fun but it turns out it really doesnt mesh with my playstyle
oh i forgot sh, i think di is the better class compared to the other one
and re doesnt do hold skills as much anymore right?

will it have less aoe dot gaming
I was joking
oh despairge
ye u just meter gain shoot meter gain shoot, theres a node also that makes things non pos so its kinda broken
wat da
its prolly 2nd or 3rd broken class along ws and sf
im selling surge gem get me out of here
ye jus play re
Ur surge goes through the boss with 4th node and is 100% BA
tbf any class can be good as long as you know how to actually play them, repear is legit xdd on average players but i know some ppl who are really good with it
its ok im not super worried about whats good
Lunar 
these are mostly alts anyways my main arcana is sitting pretty
ye fk ur class beo
why is reaper considered hard 😮
Lunar is
understandable i wont argue with that
Bs design in t4
You get a buff if you back attack red skills consecutively and use that buff with your T skill
If you miss any back attacks ERRRR start again no stacks
And even at ceiling it’s not that broken
Truly despair class
anyways im getting tired of my machinist evolution (its the most snoozer class invented ever I think) so im looking for something else and i was thinking about se or maybe reaper because they seemed kinda cool
SE is good fun
^
personslly i only played se so thats the only class i can vouch
tbh i have exactly 1 toon at t4 right now so pf isnt my problem
also since u have db jus go re
its reassuring to hear im not alone in feeling bad about surge
uh my next question is basically
i tried reading and i cant get like a vibe on what the two se engravings play like
If you really want to, surge is still playable it’s far from being zzz F tier dps but it’s just more difficult to pull off good damage + being irritating in high dps parties (which if you’re newer isn’t really an issue anyway so play what you like)
both are non pos, one is burst, one is continuous dmg
i just find it annoying because i put down like wind cut or turning slash or sth and then the boss moves and now im out an entire rotation
it feels like my drizzle aero but im also melee and its also denying me the one button that does the number
Yea surge needs more class knowledge and on the spot thinking
To know how to make up for losses like boss moving out of stack generators
which is fine but my class knowledge on the spot thinking is almost entirely absorbed into arcana combos
Ya fair enough lol that class is harder imo
you would prolly have a hard time moving on fmh cus its a spec/crit so shes gona be a bit slow, ne is crit/swift so shes smooth to move with. in terms of dmg, fmh brings out a lot of dmg with low effort, on ne its a bit harder to pump on that class cus you have to play "perfectly" cus missing a single skill is detrimental to ne's dps output
also ne's t skill sucks balls
im mostly a spec gamer so being a bit immobile isnt a huge downside
If u do decide to play SE the chat is pretty helpful and active
fk that shit man 
i actually havent played ne with a leap
but ye
Ya it’s a massive diff
shits so ass when im on snatch and my t skill isnt there to match
is fmh more or less the standard "cast normal skills to fill meter, press z then use your spec skills"
i see 
hell yea
W class
NE with full leap now you use it every soul snatch + it’s one big number
was ne enjoyer until i played fmh
maybe ill play fmh until i get my leap
same, i jus like fmh now cus im not malding when im playing
Lmao true
with ne if i got knocked out, im gona crash out
any other input on classes that are fun (subjective)? the other ones im really liking are empress arcana, destro (both engravings), and pinnacle Glaive
i play mid/shit tier classes so i vouch pistoleer 
and aero
holy peak
i see 
and by peak i mean not peak
but im having fun playing them
Not my fault they’re fun 
meta chaser 
are there humans that play artillerist in year 2025
Yea a lot
Arti is actually pretty strong
yuh

both engravings?
the other one is better
figures
om
sharpshooter still zdps?
I don’t know
Death strike is still decent I think
some things never change
The birdy one is erm
all things never change
Lvl 10 gems and 25 wep full books won’t even help u there
is there a way to try out classes
at what point does the calass feels like that class.. if that mkaes sense
Manifest ignite server
im honestly gona say 1680, but initial gameplay should be 1640
should i ressurect bluelancer
its pumps
true
me when i play a tank class and build straight damage
Why would you play gunlancer
only in lost ark
fair enuf 
who did i miss
i mentioned offhand once
Are u returning btw?
i do like front attack tank classes if you didnt notice
Oh
i would say yes
You might enjoy asura then
you learn the raid mechs so you can avoid damage, i learn raid mechs so i can time my GT bonk mode
we are not the same
is there a way to try them at that state >_>
really wna see what htey feel like b4 i commit a time
I started the game as a gunlancer player I cleared valtan without knowing what the yellow aoe means 
Yea in trixion
sadly no, only time we had to "try out different classes" was when ig ite servers started 
If u have the class
my first was sf and i didnt even make it to valtan before giving that one up
If u don’t have it already then it’s kinda gg
even at lvl 10 i can try them out if i have the class?
i was about to ask that
Uhh
cause i dont know either
I’m not sure
i dont think i ahve 1 gold 😦
Cuz I think it’s fully available now with the ark passive overhaul
ok so later i can try them out
wait it says u joined 2021 
i dont think thats right?
Are you on brel or thaemine
Use the power pass on a class you think you will like for 1580
but i literally started today haha
and now sf is one of the broken ones
Wym

isnt using that powerpass on class if i doint like it wasting it
ye it jumps you to 1580
You can check out brel gameplay of classes you are interested in on YouTube
Don't you get a free power pass per region?
Then try and decide from there
is that the server on us west
So you can try on an eu account before committing
Yes
ohh really
oh yea you can try 3 classes and try em on trixion
i think im on the b one
ye u right
I can send you like 1000g if you want
so to try them out
I'm on brel
ye eu/naw/nae
If you want to try a class make a character on EU/nae then with the pass
uhhh thatd be nice 1000g is that good
Then you can use the pass on your main acct
well, 2 classes since you wana save your powerpass on your main region which is naw im assuming
DM me your lost ark character name if you want or you can post here
Oliveowner is my char 😮
I can send you tomorrow
okay, 3 classes then cus coffee will send u money
Okie, I'm gonna sleep now but I'll do it tomorrow afternoon
thank you
ngl its my first time knowing u can buy powerpass with gold
one last check is there anyone who would make an argument for AS machinist
instead of giving up on him
As?
ill take that as a no
no thats the other one
Oh
im d1 scouter hater
at t3 they fucking suck ass, t4 they beat my pistoleer 
Lmfao
i still hate it tho
i mean i got the rotation right i think
its basically a fixed 20sec rotation isnt it
and then +2 more for getting meter back
Yea
If u play it like it’s supposed to be played and find it boring
No prablem
Reroll to blade
You’ll love it

correction i already have blade
maybe i should be clear i have arcana destro glaive db aero and iron man
and im basically just chatting to get a sense of what else might be fun
not a ton no
pisstoleer

like id rather deal damage than no damage but im not taking it too seriously outside arcana atm
Yea red does decent damage if you’re good
And not just that
Bis synergy
And u can play princess maker
Gl is a good alt and fun alt if you have pig friends
ye fk ur clsss for the 2nd time
guaranteed instant pf if i recall
ye those db mfs gona be drooling over you
look at vegeta vouching for gl
Ye nobody gatekeeps gls (atleast I don’t idgaf what they look like if I’m playing entropy)
I used to play with my princess maker friend in brel every week until he quit
It’s lonely now
a 1680 gl is like golden scar for db players

So real
Lowkey was thinking of replacing my aero with a gl next express
But I have no pig blade friends
So I guess I won’t
real and true
bluelancer doesnt even run master brawler wtf
Yea it’s not a front attacker
U just try to front attack a few skills for the 20% dmg
But not everything is
Was it 20 or 10% for front attacking skills
anyways redlancer isnt cringe or like fake or whatever these days?
me asf on pisstoleer but back attacking to try and get 10% more dmg
Wdym by cringe or fake
i guess for the frontback synergy it doesnt matter which engraving
Hm I see I think it is 20% then for front
Ye both have same synergy
Play blue if u wanna be a snail
🐌
i think it depends on the class, pisstoleer has like 3 ba skills and the other two skills are pepega dps output
Red if y wanna be a gigachad
O no I mean the front attack indicator
It gives 20% on that skill if u hit it
oh
Yea
There’s a problem rn tho
T skill isn’t charge on red lancer
Devs just decided to leave half their brain in the fridge when making his T skill
It gains no efficiency from supercharge and is a pretty big dmg %
wait is rh destro t skill charge
Ye
anyways i appreciate the input
ye if u dont make a pistoleer im guna find u
obviously i hold until pass because its treu iron man is maybe the cheapest class ever made
that and the other sh evo class
this asshole doesnt even scale off of tripods
theres another honing event coming so u gona eventually pick soon
imo yea
I wouldnt rn
Next express is sup class
Idk how it is in NAW but there’s a dps drought nearly everywhere except aegir hm 💀
same on naw
kinda crazy cus 2w ago everyone is like sup+fr
Yea
no
No there’s just so many sups 💀
how did that happen they didnt make any supp classes since artiste?
Those 6x sup rosters rlly shining bright these days
according to data tho its still supp shortage
Part of it is cause of ignite servers and ppl making infinite alt rosters with sup cause back then there was a biiiiig sup shortage
prolly people realizing they bad at dps so they mde supps


Ya it seems so
Make one if u wanna play one
Artist is nice
not so sure, but ye 2w ago ever since feb whole lobby is finding sup+fri. last week started the dps drought
But just be ready to have the same experience as dps in pf if ur sup isn’t very geared 💀
dont make a supp
its ok im built diff
Oh no
Legit one of the most worst experiences you can have in game
^
Bad investment nothing feels like an improvement nothing changes your gameplay
Yoey is trauma dumping
hes true tho

probably stupid question kurzan front just replaces chaos dungeon right which means i should go solo?
Yea
no
oh
i thought someone parties up with it
last time i party someone with chaos it was with my gf
was one of you saying reaper is bad right
or maybe not bad but definitely uh
but ye its xdd class, unless u really want to play it
why everyone running mpe these days btw
Hunger you’ll get carpal tunnel for no reason
Lunar you’ll just die inside
For no reason again
cheap to max relic it
with relic engravings introduced, ye it is
if everyone buys the cheap books then they arent cheap books anymore i think
i wish thats the case
cus for 4 months adrenaline is still 350k
mpe is like two digit and its also been like that ever since january
Mpe will stay as it is
A lot of classes can’t use mpe
So some people luck out with 6x classes who use it
but ye its cheap so lot of ppl that can use mpe invest on it
unless im bad at reading it feels like a lot of classes that used to run adren have moved off of it? for some reason
Same as ppl who play destro gl and a bunch of barricade classes
nah they still run adren
me back when barricade empress arcana was viable
adren and grudge are prolly two staple dps engravings
catch me buying barricade books and stones for pennies on the dollar baby
wahts so aintnoway about it smh
Cause only 1 of my classes can use it
And I’m not even fmh all the time I swap between both soecs
Barricade empress is a crazy tech
was alas
Give T skill a rune problem solved
I doubt they would
Fair enuff
like when you have 10% to draw "next spell gets 50%crit dmg" then youd be insane to not mill for it 247
go ahead erm say the line again
fk ur class
Yea yea then u get ghost card
Zzzz
Twisted fate with 0 damage
Zzzz
Press restart
ignore collision with monsters 
u can run through brelshaza with that?
My friend got fakkin cull and wheel in atro for his t skill one time
i dont think it works on bosses
L card
Dps Shot up out of nowhere
True
it should work ngl that looks fun
im 90% its considered a dead draw
they need to rework the card
its true they should buff arcana i think
no fk u
kr mfs cant play it and the class havent gotten nerf for fuckin years
i remember when they reworked it so it didnt kill mana hunger or wtv it was called
oom
(before that it was literally a dps loss to use in most cases)
No prablem
also any p2w abidos packs that are viable currently or planned after next patch?
sorry to keep saying thanks and coming back with more but where do people park alts these days
should be 1680 next week
1600 for completely new chars (waiting for nerfs from 1600-1620)
1640
1660
if you spend alot on your alts, could be 1680 after AH nerfs this week
Wdym viable
Get to logging sir
as in pretty good deal
nah fuck logging
i do stronghold life skills that's about it
can't be arsed to do that shit too
any loggers 
Yeh idk if u know but
Life skilling in this economy rn is like insane money 
Only true whales don’t pick up the axe
which requires time which i don't have
Fair
this might be a dumb question whos buying the wood
i am
like is there a wood sink im unaware of
the ones who has oreha factory which are a lot of them now
Ppl who craft by buying what they’re missing in terms of mats
cus abidos is now to the moon
104g euc
jesus












