lost-ark-help

[trail hawk]

how i dont have it

[static drift]

they are not autoassigned

[spring gyro]

So bros telling me what I did now

[trail hawk]

thats better

[spring gyro]

I joined it hours ago and only been on now

[static drift]

well yes because there is no other way to get that role 😄

[trail hawk]

isnt like 10am in naw right now?

[spring gyro]

5am for me

I’m oc

[trail hawk]

well, usually there arent many raids in the morning

[spring gyro]

I’d be surprised to find another Aussie here

Yet to see one

[lavish dune]

The heck

is that

business expert

Yila man

[trail hawk]

ah right, didnt do daily oreha cost yet

i made myself this

[mossy mantle]

That called ocd in trash game

[cyan rock]

This shards looks so tempting

[lavish dune]

No man don't pick shards thats a scam

[cyan rock]

guess i can wait for tmrw to be finally done with 1580

[lavish dune]

Time for akkan

[cyan rock]

so that jar is like a gamba for outfit right

[timber mauve]

Yes

[static drift]

i made over 100k profit with those jars :D:D:D

good times

[timber mauve]

My guild mate burned $400

Didn’t get shit

[static drift]

i got leg sorc weap from the free pass ones xd

[cyan rock]

[native dock]

Hello, this Mokoshit is still bugged ?

[timber mauve]

I’ve heard that only a very limited number of people can do it per day.

[native dock]

I see, thank you

[cyan rock]

how do i get more cloth i need 7 for 1 more tap

[trail hawk]

dismantling other outfits

one dismantle gives you 7 mats

[cyan rock]

does it have to be a 3 time trade ?

[timber mauve]

No

[cyan rock]

so this works ?

[worthy crow]

Which ancient set do I want for a reflux sorc? the nightmare resonance or screaming hallucination

[trail hawk]

any that doesnt have "cannot be dismantled" works

[trail hawk]

nightmare

[worthy crow]

thank you ❤️

[cyan rock]

okioki gamba time

[worthy crow]

gonna finally get some of my ancient pieces 😄 did Brel 1&2 yesterday hahaa

[balmy plank]

[worthy crow]

one more noobesque question.... does the ancient gear come in a low gear score? its like 1390 T_T I have to hone it? T_T

[trail hawk]

you transfer your relic quality to it

[worthy crow]

is that the gear transfer merchant?

[balmy plank]

The same as the honing person

[worthy crow]

Oh

[balmy plank]

a tab at the bottom

[trail hawk]

the honing npc has transfer gear

[worthy crow]

Oooooooh

[cyan rock]

1 tap

[static drift]

see, 100k profit

easy

[cyan rock]

i wanted the pink one tho

[static drift]

thats ur rng for the next month used up, have fun pittying

[static drift]

sell it, buy pink

[spice orchid]

yo i want to switch mains, currently my "main" is 1540 reaper with the events both active, and my arcana that i want to play instead is 1430 something. Do I wait for next event before pushing my arcana?

and do i get reaper to 1580 first?

[cyan rock]

how can i sell it

[static drift]

wait 3 days

[native dock]

you can sell it 3 days later

[static drift]

yes

[cyan rock]

can i wear it then sell it after 3 days ?

[shy chasm]

yes

[balmy plank]

It will lose 1 trade

[static drift]

yes

will be less gold tho

[shy chasm]

no?

[static drift]

^this

[balmy plank]

If it loses 1 trade, itll cost someone pheons to buy it so generally it sells for less

[shy chasm]

that doesnt mean less gold

[static drift]

it does

2 trade always cheaper than 3 trade

[shy chasm]

but your the one setting the price

i dont follow

[static drift]

surely someone will buy the 2trade for the same price as the 3trade right

:^)

[floral saffron]

But it also costs pheons

[static drift]

thats the whole reason why its cheaper

thats why i said

it will be less gold

[balmy plank]

Sure, you can list it for the same price. Just saying generally its cheaper with less trades because there is also an added pheon cost so people spend less

[shy chasm]

oh

[static drift]

^this

are there any euc peeps doing gold loans? lolz

[shy chasm]

the special site does daily

[static drift]

?

[cyan rock]

time to roll 1 more time

maybe i hit the second legendary one

[mellow mauve]

Gl

[cyan rock]

rip

[minor briar]

ideally u dont wanna buy non 3 trade skins cuz it costs extra pheons

[minor briar]

also, pretty sure it doesnt

just binds it to roster but that does nothing for market

[balmy plank]

It does, I have tried

[trail hawk]

idd, it doesnt lose a trade

it doesnt

[balmy plank]

It does

[balmy plank]

Now list it and look at what the market shows

[minor briar]

omg..

thats cuz thats wat its gonna be when they buy it

cuz its been traded once after they buy it

[balmy plank]

sure thing

[static drift]

uh

no

that would mean they start at 4 trades

xd

(which they dont)

[minor briar]

u buy it and it becomes 2

[mellow mauve]

It’s the same for accs

[static drift]

yes, but it will not show as 2 trades left on market

which is what braden was hinting at

[minor briar]

in ur registered it does

pretty sure

[floral saffron]

It does show as 2 trades on the market

It shows what it’ll become when you buy it

If you hover over the actual acc it shows it as 3 trade though

[minor briar]

ye, and thats not "losing 1 trade"

when u equip it

[trail hawk]

it is tho

it now cost pheons

[sick citrus]

guys guys, on kakul - bingo stage - if you used inana - no bingo is done - will it still do the damage to kakul afterwards? or the dmg that happens to him is from a bingo been made?

[mellow mauve]

Dmg will still happen to kakul

[sick citrus]

thank u <3,

[static drift]

ahh i decided on what to do

ill get my bard to 1520

best point for return on investment regarding the timespan left until event start

should be doable with 60k no?

already have the stuff for 1510-1520, so basically just need 1415-1490

[frosty axle]

but where am i jumping to

[warm tendon]

relog

it's a known bug

[trail hawk]

1520 doesnt do much tho...

well, it gives you access to brel g4..

[static drift]

ye but 1540 is way to expensive

wouldnt be profit until event

1510 (full brel) to 1520 (acces to g4) is about 8k

on avg

so pays for itself with g4 being biweekly still

going to 1540 would be 70k+

in raw gold

not including buying mats

ah its 12 and 64

but still

[frosty axle]

remove the shard cost

[static drift]

not gonna make up 52k with kaya nm in 6 weeks

[static drift]

huh?

[frosty axle]

unless you like a certain gamer2gamer interaction or whale you dont buy shards

Thats like the biggest mistake you could possibly make

[static drift]

that calc is not including buying shards

thats what im saying

RAW gold cost

for honing

not including mats

if u could buy all of those mats for 63k youd see me sprinting to whatever store that is

trust

[balmy plank]

Please enjoy my collage of I was right

[static drift]

let it go, they're gonna say its wrong again, trust xd

[balmy plank]

ty spooky for believing in me

[viral coyote]

what's the best way to get 500 gold?

[static drift]

argos

kek

[balmy plank]

Run a guardian and sell leaps

[static drift]

i wish i could transfer shards to alts 😦

my parked SE has 300k

thatd fund half of my bard to 1540

[shy chasm]

just save till march and hone then

[static drift]

thats the worst advice possible

wrong channel for u

[shy chasm]

[static drift]

thank u next

[shy chasm]

i mean

what rush are you in

[static drift]

my guy

why would i pay the same price in 2 months

or most likely more

since new class release

and miss out on 8 (eight) weeks of raidgold

[shy chasm]

you wanted to get your bard to 1540 yes

[static drift]

1520

[shy chasm]

what ilvl is it now

[static drift]

ill do 1520-1540 on event release

[static drift]

1420

so instead of doing valtan NM if there ever is a lobby

ill do vykas HM, clown and brel nm 1-4

x8

thats not only paying the same price now that id pay then but also 10s of thousands of profit

any more bad takes?

please enlighten me

[static drift]

thats only calculating extra raids, not higher level gem droprates etc etc.

[shy chasm]

so from what i undertsand you want to get your bard to 1520 then use the event to hit 1540

[static drift]

no

[zealous spade]

did i understand that right that if i want to have LoS and LC i should always choose "Legendary Card Pack" (as opposed to Unity or Abyss)?

[warm tendon]

correct

[static drift]

abyss

[warm tendon]

abyss is only for LOS + KLC

[static drift]

Weekly gold at 1520 (Raids only):

Vykas HM G1 - G2: 2400

Kakul Saydon G1 - G3: 4500

Brelshaza NM G1 - G3: 6000

Brelshaza NM G4: 1250 (since bi-weekly)

Total Weekly: 14150

Total over 6 weeks (til event): 84.900

aka missing out on 85k gold for absolutely 0 reason

[zealous spade]

thank you, can you tell me what's unity for then?

[static drift]

or did i miss anything? @shy chasm

[static drift]

yes, and if u want LOS you also want KLC

0 reason to not do

[warm tendon]

unity gives access to some extra cards like varkan from Voidis, not worth ever picking unless you finish the two sets you need

[zealous spade]

i'm support main and missing manny cards though

[shy chasm]

this is only one 1 char?

[static drift]

yes

[warm tendon]

??

[shy chasm]

which is the bard?

[zealous spade]

oh i see, so it has cards that are touside of LoS, LC and KLC?

[shy chasm]

or the char you already have at 1520

[static drift]

correct. not including possible income from bussing

[static drift]

???

[static drift]

every character at 1520

[warm tendon]

yes, again if you want LOS and LWC, pick the legendary card pack option

[static drift]

general calc

[static drift]

dont

[warm tendon]

bro is a support main, he doesn't need klc????

[static drift]

istg

[warm tendon]

you're delusional

[static drift]

oh my bad, forgot the LoS Supps

[shy chasm]

so how many do you have rn

[static drift]

how does that matter for the calc?

[zealous spade]

Understood, just wanted to know what unity is for in general for later etc. Thank you for the info. :)

[wise pier]

huh

[static drift]

nah we had a troll dw<3

[wise pier]

I was out and about

everything good tho?

[mellow mauve]

Unity is LWC and voldis cards

[shy chasm]

its not for any calc im just asking

[static drift]

yup yup

[wise pier]

Noice

[static drift]

have 1, can make 3 if needed

[fervent willow]

is it better to cube solo or group? or are the rewards the same?

[wise pier]

Sorry for late reply I was out buying food

[warm tendon]

matchmake cube

[mellow mauve]

Group

[warm tendon]

rewards are the same

[mellow mauve]

Cube doesn’t scale down

[static drift]

always matchmake cubes

[static drift]

what did u get? 😄

[static drift]

also we should have ppl need to take an iq test or sth to be allowed to give advice

some of the stuff spread in here is crazy

[warm tendon]

you're included in that lol

[shy chasm]

oh then waiting doesnt make sense ig i thought you already had a full roster to play with or atleast more than 1

[mellow mauve]

Unnecessary

[static drift]

nono thats why im calcing what to juice rn

[wise pier]

Fettuccini, chicken, garlic, and some Parmigiano-Reggiano

[warm tendon]

just cause they want LOS doesn't mean they'll need KLC, have a lot of support main friends that have dps <1540 that just keep for extra gold

LOS is for ALL content, while KLC is only for 2 things

[static drift]

sweeeet

[zealous spade]

are those just for books and not for card sets?

[subtle salmon]

iam ilvl1503 and iam out of oreha fusion material. Is there aways to get them without life skill or market?

[mellow mauve]

There are card sets

[static drift]

no

[mellow mauve]

It’ll be the meta set for guardian raids with front and back attackers

[static drift]

yes

BUT

if u want LoS you have a dps character, correct?

[subtle salmon]

oh..... does it take long to farm them? never did Life skill before

[zealous spade]

Oh I see, good to know that those will be irrelevant for me, even for alts. Thanks man :)

[static drift]

not really, what I do on my lowlevels is go to bellion ruins and fish there while watching netflix or something. should get you enough materials for a few crafts 🙂

[warm tendon]

i mean some people just want it just in case they make a dps alt. if they pick abyss, they lower the odds of getting LWC cards if you include KLC cards in the pool, which makes zero sense according to their priorities

[static drift]

correct

BUT

if you need LoS

you will at some point need KLC

correct?

[warm tendon]

but their priority is LWC >>> KLC?

so yes they need it

[static drift]

yes

[warm tendon]

but that's not RIGHT NOW

[shy chasm]

so the only reason your not making it is because no gold or you do have the gold

[warm tendon]

so why would they pick Abyss now?

[subtle salmon]

is 1503 low level? And does fishing give the most t3 oreha?

[static drift]

because finishing LoS30, LWC30 and KLC18 is a long term thing, correct?

[shy chasm]

klc 18 isnt long term

[static drift]

so why prioritize the set with commons, rares, epics and legendaries

[mellow mauve]

so @warm tendon @static drift can the two of you drop it?

[static drift]

when you have 2 sets with only legendaries

[static drift]

i think this is a valid discussion, maybe I am actually wrong and can broaden my knowledge

[mellow mauve]

You are

but that's not the point

[static drift]

well no im not

😄

maths isnt about opinion

[warm tendon]

The legendary card set has only legendaries....

[mellow mauve]

This chat isn't the place for you to argu

[static drift]

correct

[warm tendon]

dropping it there

[static drift]

hence the name 😄

yeah, not the first time ur unable to argue ur point and drop it today ;9

[warm tendon]

im dropping it not cause of inability to argue

[zealous spade]

I mean I asked about LoS and LwC, so he gave me the answer to my question.

[warm tendon]

but because this is not the riight place

[static drift]

fishing gets you lifeskill mats to craft Oreha Fusion Material

[warm tendon]

yet you still keep picking arguments

[static drift]

it isnt?

[zealous spade]

If you wanted to give me an answer to my question that's outside of the scope of my question you could've added mor context and it would've made more sense

[shy chasm]

no

[static drift]

i did

[static drift]

did i miss sth? lol

[shy chasm]

valtan,vykas,clown.brel,akkan cards ahve been in the game for as long as los

thamine was the only newish one

[zealous spade]

not initially, only because Vexicra gave a different answer than you.

[mellow mauve]

*akkan use to be obtainable from legendary card packs and ghost ship

[static drift]

correct

[mellow mauve]

I had max akkan before akkan raid

[static drift]

so if you are starting a new account right now its still a long term thing no?

[mellow mauve]

yes and no

[static drift]

i didnt miss a single raid since i started playing and my LoS/LWC are progressed much farther than my KLC

[mellow mauve]

that's just the power of rng

[static drift]

well yes

but they are all endgame card sets

[mellow mauve]

You could drop a brel/valtan/vykas/clown/akkan/clown every time you clear a raid

[shy chasm]

when did you start playing

[mellow mauve]

and be maxed with them before 3 months

[static drift]

you could

but u wont

realistically

[subtle salmon]

Can i fish where i want or do i have to be on different places to get different fishes?

[mellow mauve]

you could also only obtained luens/luterras/siens from legendary card packs and still be 2 years out from los 18/30

[static drift]

yup

[trail hawk]

any t3 zone

[mellow mauve]

that's the cool thing about rng

everyone is different

[static drift]

making them all endgame (and therefore long term) sets

you are supporting my point

[mellow mauve]

I'm supporting both our points

[static drift]

so how is KLC not a long term thing?

[balmy plank]

KLC is only for sonavel and kayangel tho. Future stuff doesnt use it

Its like a side chick

[static drift]

you still want to have it at some point

(long term)

thats what ive been saying

ofc its not your priority

[balmy plank]

I think you have a different idea of long term

[static drift]

okay let me phrase it differently

[quasi tree]

Is this about which legendary pack as a fresh player

[static drift]

yes

[mellow mauve]

yes and no

[static drift]

yes it is

that was the original question

[quasi tree]

Do people really care about lwc when you have yhap

[mellow mauve]

this is somone saying a support main should pick abyss over legendary card pack

[floral saffron]

you take whichever one fits your roster better.

[static drift]

yes

[mellow mauve]

because lwc has less legendaries

which said person is wrong

[static drift]

because said support main said they want LoS

[mellow mauve]

cause why would a support main care about klc

[floral saffron]

ok

so why would they need klc though

[static drift]

which means they have a dps

[mellow mauve]

if they have 0 dps alts

[static drift]

if u have 0 dps alts

why do u want LoS

?

what

[quasi tree]

I personally would go pack 2 on new account only because you have a backup option on lwc30 albeit weaker

[floral saffron]

you have a backup option for klc/los too

[quasi tree]

If you dont care about klc gate then it doesn't really matter

[floral saffron]

[quasi tree]

Its not about usability

[zealous spade]

I have another question about cards i have 50x Challenger's Card Pack and 9x Splendid Challenger's Card Pack . I got 15x Seria but very low on anything else of LwC. I see there is a pack that got Executor Solar for example. But there are also Packs that got Master or Spears cards in it. Kinda lost what to pick here.

[marble sun]

Quick question .... I'm stuck with level 10 inside my Stronghold (Pressed the Knowlage Button top right...) How can i leave my Stronghold now ? I do not have access to my Music ....

[quasi tree]

What were the legendary cards in lwc again

[mellow mauve]

go for solas first

[floral saffron]

king thirain, delain armen, armen, and... zinnervale?

[balmy plank]

There should be a dock to sail out behind the manor at the back of the sh i think

[warm tendon]

Armen, King Thirain, Kharmine, Delain Armen

[mellow mauve]

since you can drop purple selects from fate embers

[warm tendon]

no zinnervale

[floral saffron]

oh kharmine my bad

not zinner

[static drift]

delain armen, armen, king thirain, kharmine

[warm tendon]

zinner is mos

[marble sun]

Yeah im dumb ... ty

[quasi tree]

I think if you weight all 30 sets equal value, pack 2 is just safer. You have bigger pool to reach for lwc cards + merchants

[static drift]

oh wonder, thats what ive been saying

[mellow mauve]

pack 2 has no value if they don't play a dps

[static drift]

if they dont play a dps they dont need los

[mellow mauve]

then they go pack 3 then

[quasi tree]

There's no argument initially if they only play supp

[static drift]

they asked for los and lwc specifically

[mellow mauve]

exactly

which is why the convo has been pointless

[static drift]

the original question was LoS and LWC

[floral saffron]

both

so why does klc matter

[bronze pewter]

How do I unlock the event quest Treasure Hunt! In fermata?

[static drift]

if u need los you need klc at some point

klc has far more legendaries required than lwc

hence go abyss

[floral saffron]

that is not true at all

you are perfectly fine without ever having klc

[static drift]

yeah my bad, theyll leave their dps at 1415 for eternity

[floral saffron]

?

[balmy plank]

Screw klc, its too specific. Just get Deep Dive

Its good but not needed

[floral saffron]

for one, the chances of getting klc from a legion raid are higher then other legendary cards

so if they do evenr need klc

[quasi tree]

Huh

[floral saffron]

youll eventually get it anyways

[quasi tree]

Since when

[floral saffron]

klc is its own pool

[quasi tree]

Yeah

[zealous spade]

So there would be 2 Packs that I could choose for that, Strong Courage and Fearless Knight. I don't know if I marked all the important card sets so I don't know if I'm missing anything here. Strong Courage would also have Kaysarr (for Romanticist), pretty fringe case set but the other seems to have nothing interesting.

[floral saffron]

random legendary is its own pool

[quasi tree]

So you can always hit lwc + legion commander in legion raids

[floral saffron]

more likely to get a klc card the nyou are to get los in its big pool

[quasi tree]

But you'll never see legions when farming card runs

Also los and lwc have merchant carss

[warm tendon]

players are doing more legion raids than card runs

[quasi tree]

Cards*

Klc is statically the hardesr set to finish

18 is whatever tho

[warm tendon]

that is IF you're doing card runs

[zealous spade]

@mellow mauve Just realized Fearless Knight has 27 cards and Strong Courage 34 so probably smart to pick Fearless Knight then I guess.

[warm tendon]

most players DO NOT do card runs

[quasi tree]

You are still running abyssals every week regardless

[mellow mauve]

Yeah, ultimately still rng

[balmy plank]

round and round we go. Where this convo goes nobody knows

[zealous spade]

So there's nothing in those packs outside of the mentioned ones that could be useful right?

[crisp otter]

is it the same 3 adventure islands all day or does it change?

[warm tendon]

the islands stay the same per day except on weekends

where there's two sets of islands (morning/night)

[quasi tree]

Week days have 3 different ones for entire day. Weekend has 2 sets in morning and night

[crisp otter]

ohhh okay ty!

[quasi tree]

You can preview islands but i forgot shortcut

[floral saffron]

im talking just legions lol

[mellow mauve]

I wouldn’t be able to tell you at this point in time since I’m not home. But there are some cards that are used for demon dmg but I wouldn’t be able to tell you all them off the top of my head

[quasi tree]

like i said you are still running 1-3 abyssal dungeons per char each week

1-2*

[zealous spade]

Understandable, you mean Master of Spears right? The dark equivalent to LcW. Guess I'm far enough from completing either one that I can still wait with opening them.

[mellow mauve]

Nah, demon dmg is book set stat. But yeah, you’ll just be praying for purple selects and purple card drops during chaos for master of spears

[fervent willow]

is it worth spamming lopang on low tier alts for silver

[warm tendon]

if you have the time why not?

are you planning on pushing those alts?

[fervent willow]

i have 7 alts sitting at 805, but lopang only giving me like barely 10k

[zealous spade]

Oh yeah, don't know how I mixed up demon and dark damage. Thanks for all the info man. :) Was afraid that i might fuck something up by selecting the wrong ones.

[pallid flax]

I have a 5/5 common elixir and I don’t know whether to use it on pants or shoulders. Is crit dmg / additional dmg better than boss dmg?

[quasi tree]

No

Don't add it into anything until it finishes set

[rose wren]

its simple to get t3, 10k is pretty low and not worth

[midnight nimbus]

I heard Korea has a website that automatically picks out accessories off the AH for your engravings. Is that really a thing? Is it also in NA?

[quasi tree]

They have a marketplace api. We do not

[sullen spire]

dont think we ever will

[warm tendon]

AGS has said previously that we won't ever

[young karma]

any way to obtain these?

[maiden locust]

blue crystals

in shop

thats it

[rose wren]

various events

[young karma]

[rose wren]

like

[rose wren]

not true

[maiden locust]

i meant like buying

[young karma]

not leap essence

[maiden locust]

event is kinda a given

but yea

events

wait

[rose wren]

they're still lifeskills

[maiden locust]

yeah this event gives not life energy

leaps only

[timber mauve]

Cash shop and Mari shop I think are the only sources of it.

[warm tendon]

we haven't had life energy potions from events in a while

[timber mauve]

Bots went brrr

[rose wren]

ah partypooper as always, well rip

[wary void]

could anyone help with a quest raid for old content? no ones joining group

[rose wren]

ur t1?

[wary void]

t3, im doing sea of indolence

need it to unlock quests after south vernon

[rose wren]

u dont need that

?elgacia

[sage dune]

Elgacia questline requirements:

• Reach item level 1460
• Have completed all the story questlines from Tortoyk, Arthetine, North Vern, Shushire, Rohendel, Yorn, Feiton, and South Vern on that character
• Complete the following questlines in order (check if you've already completed the quest before going to the location):

1. Whispering Islet: "Whispering Voice" -> "To the Sound" -> "Start of Our Story"
2. Illusion Bamboo Island: "Trapped in the Trial", up until "End of the Trials"
3. Great Castle (Yorn), talk to Kaysarr: "Let There Be Light"
4. Vern Castle (North Vern), talk to Sebastian: "Destiny's Whisper", up until "Searching for a Legend"
5. Isteri (Island): "The South Sea Island", up until "Blue-Blazing Blade"
6. Neria's Tavern in Vern Castle (North Vern), talk to Neria: "Into the Chaos"
7. Vern Castle (North Vern), talk to Lunar Knight: "The Infinite Darkness", up until "Tabula Rasa"
8. Any major city, talk to Papa: "The Gate of Paradise Opens"
9. Press J, go to the "Guide" tab, accept the guide quest "[Guide] Guides: Elgacia"
10. Vern Castle (North Vern), talk to Solar Knight Rahel: "Paradise of the Dreamless"

Note: You DO NOT need to complete the quest "To the Gate of Paradise".

[wary void]

ah okay

im 1460, im not sure what im missing

[rose wren]

open up elgacia guide quest should show u

[wary void]

it doesnt show what im missing, just everything there is, idk where to check against it

[spice orchid]

Hey what does book of judgement do? And should I save it for later or pick it out now?

[rose wren]

talk to the npc near the return stone statue thing, i think thats the start to elgacia,do u see a marker somewhere there on map?

[maiden locust]

upgrades ur stone to lvl 4

save it for ur main if u dont have many books

[spice orchid]

im just getting one character to 1580 now with the event then ill try to swap to another main

save it or?

[maiden locust]

if ur not sure

which is ur main yes

books can take weeks

well months if ur not lucky

so yes

[spice orchid]

oke ty

[lunar ingot]

hi, question, do i craft the 1390 ancient gear or what, ? i'm 1490 now ?

[rose wren]

pin gear guild

[maiden locust]

brel first before honing

15 is soft cap for relic

[orchid holly]

Where do the amulest from chaos dungeons go?

I got some while doing the haos dungeon but I don't see it in my inventory

[frigid hare]

Can I change my char preset to one of the auto presets from inven or from the this discords presets etc. with a reskin ticket

[shy chasm]

they are for tripos

tripods*

[orchid holly]

Where do I acess them?

the amulets

[shy chasm]

at the vendor

they should be a multicolored triangle icon

[orchid holly]

this one?

[shy chasm]

what is the amulet you have xactly

exactly*

[orchid holly]

i don't have any amulet in my inventory but while I was doing chaos dungeons it said I picked up an amulet

[shy chasm]

did you trash it?

[orchid holly]

I hope not 💀

[shy chasm]

it should should up tthere even if you placed it in storage

so looks like you might have

[rose jewel]

@marble sun just a small tip&trick, you can use bifrost, a tripod (assuming you are on a continent and not an island) and song of return (F2) to get out of your stronghold

[orchid holly]

i didnt trash anything after doing the chaos dungeon

[shy chasm]

is it in your inventory

[orchid holly]

no

[shy chasm]

so you trashed

[rose jewel]

Not only via that exit, coz that's slow af

[shy chasm]

[quasi tree]

Auto dismantle?

[orchid holly]

ohj

thats a good point

[rose jewel]

Autodismantle yes

Did you actually set it up correctly

[orchid holly]

https://i.imgur.com/RmndKA3.png

i have this as my autodismantle

[rose jewel]

Yes its correct, BUT

Did you favorite your skills on K menu

[orchid holly]

but i think the amulet was only the lv3 or lv4 amulet but i have all tripods at lv4/5 already

[orchid holly]

yes

[rose jewel]

Then yes you didn't get a single lv5

[orchid holly]

ah

that makes sense then

i didnt know auto dismantle auto dismantled the low lvl tripods too but that is helpful

[frigid hare]

does anyone know can i change my preset like this

[rose wren]

probably, see #presets pin maybe

[junior pelican]

Does anyone know if they changed the Set Upgrade costs semi-recently? As in, it used to be that 1 -> 3 was the same price as 2 -> 3. I seem to remember that changing, but I don't know for sure.

[rose jewel]

Lowered iirc, it was in patch notes

Lv2 no cost

[junior pelican]

Cool, thanks

[frigid hare]

i checked but couldn' see such information. I didn' see anything like either i need a completely new character to use the presets.

[rose wren]

try get a CM in official i guess to know more

[static drift]

yes you can

source: did it myself

[frigid hare]

so i dont need to create new character to use it ok tysm

[rose wren]

sup

[static drift]

class?

[rose jewel]

Do you actually wanna play a game for fun or you just wanna cheap out and probably hate the class

1 or 2

Pick and I shall answer

[static drift]

yeah but for which class

[static drift]

isnt it always 2? xd

[rose jewel]

1 or 2

First before I answer

Remember an alt is an investment and it will take a while for it to pay for itself

If you're ok with that, destroyer

Also any transformation class, since 2 gems only

But spec is more expensive

Full spec*

[frosty axle]

Can someone explain why it says 5% tax but it calculates 7.14% tax instead? How the fuck do these numbers even come together??

[rose jewel]

Ignoring gems destroy may be the cheapest mf to build ever

Go ahead then

Bonk

[midnight nimbus]

iirc, grudge gt sa mb barricade. Might be full spec, but those engravings are... not in high demand lmao

[rose jewel]

Just read class guide and look at market

Overall mfer is cheap af

Pick whichever you wanna build, 2 options

[midnight nimbus]

I remember rage hammer being a bit more expensive, but yeah accessories were overall quite cheap

[lavish grove]

The Ultimate Destroyer Infoset

Below you can find a comprehensive list of useful information for the Destroyer class. This list is not exhaustive, but it should give you a good idea of what to expect from the class.

​

Destroyer Community Guide

This information was created by community members · Jan 18, 2024, 9:08 PM

[rose jewel]

Just see the guide

I do not play destro myself

Rage hammer and gravity training

That's all I know

[quasi tree]

Only cause gt uses the cheapest engravings in the game

Heard supply was an issue sometimes tho

[slender mantle]

why cant i use knowledge transfer on my 500 ilvl slayer?

trying to do it ON my slayer so thats not the issue

[shy chasm]

what are you trying to kt to

[slender mantle]

south vern

[shy chasm]

you need to be 1340

all it does is complete the msq for you not hone for you

[slender mantle]

oh.. i thought it did 😭

well thank y ou!

[rose jewel]

Also

You can't skip to SV directly, you have to KT EVERY SINGLE CONTINENT IN ORDER

And you have to hone to each continent's required ilv

If you're 500 you ain't kting Rohendel ever

[maiden locust]

any tips to increase fps? got i5 12600k rtx 3070 32gb ram and still kinda laggy

[glass iron]

me and a friend are returning to the game and we both have many question about how we should continue and what to do?

[rose wren]

what fps u reach atm? eu3+eac is the shitters

[mellow mauve]

continue in what way?

[maiden locust]

whats eu3+eac

and i got like 90fps in city

and 50-70 in raid

[rose wren]

unreal engine 3, easy anticheat

[maiden locust]

oh ok

so is there any way to get more fps in this game or nah?

[glass iron]

Like is the character I picked is ok or should I change, how to endgame stuff like this

[mellow mauve]

every character is fine for endgame stuff

[rose wren]

could maybe find stuff to add here in steam, see if they help

[mellow mauve]

?jumpstart

[sage dune]

[Jumpstart Server Info](#jumpstart message)

> Jumpstart servers are now merged to include matchmaking with rest of the region.

Class Selection Advice Guide by Nexus Team

New Player South Vern Powerpass Systems Guide by Icy058

Jumpstart Character/Inventory Setup by civo

T3 Gear Progression Guide by Icy058

Jumpstart Optimized Todo/Checklist by Atum|Talmar

Ask for questions and help in #jumpstart and #lost-ark-help.
Also check pinned messages in both channels for more resources.
Consider reading #lao-faq if you are brand new to the discord.
Our #new-player-tips covers an overview of the main components of Lost Ark.

[mellow mauve]

@glass iron you can read these guides to refresh yourself

[crisp otter]

why do people look for groups during chaos gate?

[mellow mauve]

if you have more questions, you can ask them here

[warm tendon]

it's mainly for supports but also some synergy so people do more damage

[mellow mauve]

some people just like grouping

[warm tendon]

for supports, if they don't run damage builds, they need to be in a party to get contribution

[mellow mauve]

no

[warm tendon]

wait what?

[crisp otter]

oooh okay

[quasi tree]

You mean x50 shadow pull? Yeah clicking stopped being consistent to me a while back so i just space now

[mellow mauve]

I done, chaos gate with dmg build and my support build solo

[quasi tree]

Hes agreeing with you

[warm tendon]

o okay nvm, thought support build wasn't enough if not in a party

[mellow mauve]

long as you're tagging mobs, you'll get contribution when someone kills them

[quasi tree]

[warm tendon]

ahhh gotcha

[quasi tree]

Idk supp builds solo used to be an issue in field boss

[mellow mauve]

and I haven't noticed a difference in reward grouping/soloing on support

[crisp otter]

but doing more damage doesnt give you more rewards right?

[quasi tree]

It was a legitimate concern but probably cause it died so fast

[warm tendon]

nope, just makes it faster

[crisp otter]

kk

[warm tendon]

once you reach contribution requirements, you get the same rewards

[crisp otter]

ty

[fading hill]

if i buy a dex bracelet on warrior does it auto swap to strength?

[quasi tree]

No

[sullen spire]

idk if i'm blind but when i cast prelude of death on bard it pushes the enemies back a bit in chaos dungeons for some reason? i don't see any text that says it does this on tripods or the spell description

and i think also on heavenly tune?

[mellow mauve]

some skills are just like that

[rose wren]

i think every attack does a smudge of push

[sullen spire]

thanks it's so fucking annoying when i pull in with sonic vibration then wait for the meteor to clean up and then the trash gets pushed back a bit and misses the mobs

[fallow acorn]

Did they nerf brel.gold already?

[mellow mauve]

no

[fallow acorn]

That is weird, i just checked rn , g3 gave me 1500g only

Instead of 2000g

[rose wren]

see pin

[fallow acorn]

Yes pin says g3 2000g

But i got 1500g only

That why i was asking

[shy chasm]

so you did nm instead of hm

[fallow acorn]

Yes nm

1500g only

[shy chasm]

yes nm is 1500

hm is 2000

[mellow mauve]

?

[fallow acorn]

That is weird, im 100% sure g3 was 2000g from nm

[mellow mauve]

no

[fallow acorn]

It was g1 2000g, g2 2000g, g3 2000

Im gonna another run to confirm

[solemn condor]

after the nerf, how much kakul would be giving gold ?

[outer mason]

yeah it was 2k/2k/2k for G1/2/3 in normal, they changed it recently

[outer mason]

600 / 900 / 1500
total 3000g

[solemn condor]

thank you

[rose jewel]

We'll see if they nerf it the same or less, we won't know for sure until official notes are released

I recall valtan was nerfed for less initially

So

[fallow acorn]

Thanks god im.not crazy here

[outer mason]

yeah valtan HM goes 2 rounds of nerfs
4500g -> 3000g
then
3000g -> 1800g

[trail hawk]

vykas 4500 -> 2500

[outer mason]

2400*
🤓

[rose jewel]

wow fake info

Ima be honest I didn't answer coz I don't even remember the nerf to Brel g

I was 50 50

What I do know for sure is that people will bitch about it like they always do, with things like "We will never have enough gold to hone! It is very costly! Costs dozens of thousands to get to 1490 or less than that!!!!"

What I agree with is that the 1460 change to market was plain stupid

[paper walrus]

"how am i supposed to catch up when veterans have even more advantagenow!"

[rose jewel]

I can't defend that

[rose wren]

FOMO

[trail hawk]

they changed so no gold for hone up to 1490

[rose jewel]

Orehas my dude

[rose wren]

not direct gold spent

[rose jewel]

Orehas are a thing and a problem early

[mellow mauve]

idk why they haven't removed blue oreha for honing to 1490

[rose jewel]

Fucking phone autocorrect

[rose wren]

tons of newbie fail to understand how to get orehas

[rose jewel]

The game doesn't tell you shit

Ofc they do fail at knowing

[rose wren]

the blue text

[rose jewel]

You think new people will check every single detail and text?

[rose wren]

many people fail reading oh well

[rose jewel]

Enough stuff they have to learn being thrown into the wild of endgame to have the mind and time to check that

If I was new I would also get super lost

[vital tinsel]

I was lost enough when I was new, without being turbo’d into an item level I didn’t understand at all

[rose jewel]

I also had my fair share of stupid easy-to-answer-by-veterans questions when I was new

And I am a day1 player

Imagine fresh people nowadays

[vital tinsel]

Same

[stoic night]

most i saw helped and still have in my fl quit after 3/4 weeks of not really beeing able to play raids

i have a whole group called RIP for them

[rose jewel]

Some will come back because the gameplay is sick

With the classic

"Is it worth to come back? Is the game still a job coz you need 6alts to catch up? Is it easier to get to endgame?"

[stoic night]

nah they wont some are like 100days+ gone now 😄 they tryed it said combat was fun but honing all the rng system and not beeing able to get into raids killed it for them pretty quick

[vital tinsel]

I came back after 100+ days but ya

I did raid before I left so

[rose jewel]

Bro, I've read dozens of posts on reddit and other places with the "I played for a bit but XYZ is it worth to come back?"

[stoic night]

U played from the start they didnt they tryed it and went nah 😄

[rose jewel]

People from server open who never tried raids as well

[vital tinsel]

I love the “is it worth to come back” LOL

[stoic night]

if someone asks that i 100% say hell no 😄

[rose jewel]

We didn't even had raids at server open

[vital tinsel]

Lots of my fellow day 1ers never taided

Raided*

[rose jewel]

Guardian raids don't count

[vital tinsel]

They got to ilv 500 and quit

[rose jewel]

But I guess abyss dungeons do, i mean ngl Alaric's sanctuary was actually sick back in the days

[vital tinsel]

Arguably easier to get into raids now.

8man abyssal was p dope

I did enjoy that on my T2 alts

[stoic night]

i am only talking about new players that came with the powerpass stuff alot of them dont really last

from what i have seen

[vital tinsel]

Yeah I mean, easy come easy go

[rose jewel]

Yeah they don't, for several reasons

[shut pasture]

But a lot do last.

[quasi tree]

i didnt do unas for a week cause i thought it was annoying

[rose jewel]

But some have some absurd expectations

[quasi tree]

[shut pasture]

Many people here in this Discord today are those players

[vital tinsel]

They didn’t invest anything to check the game out so not much holding them here

[mellow mauve]

rip leaps

[quasi tree]

for real

i never sold anything until t3

week one bc on nae was 75g

[lone sigil]

that is not the jedi chuan way

[quasi tree]

i could've made alts and farmed abyssals

[rose jewel]

Like, besides the "is it worth to come back" they expect to be akkan ready by next reset

[stoic night]

from what i have seen in my personal space thats around 10 guys some i did learning clowns with to teach them never came back after a few weeks

[rose jewel]

That's plain dumb, but also this is the very first MMO for a lot of people

[stoic night]

but thats only from what i saw

[rose jewel]

And it's a KR MMO so it's even worse

[shut pasture]

For every 10 you see that don't there are probably another 10 that do

[stoic night]

playernumbers say otherwise tbh

[rose jewel]

One thing is for certain, the negativity spreads faster and wider compared to the positivity, see: Reddit

[shut pasture]

Player numbers dip and rise all the time for most anything

[lone sigil]

more people leave than stay, that goes for every game. also games like lost ark dont really rely on having more people joining than leaving to stay alive

[rose jewel]

Also player count rn doesn't mean a lot

[lone sigil]

they rely on having their existing players stay hooked (and spending)

[vital tinsel]

Not to mention in our case has a lot to do with bot population kek

[lone sigil]

so as long as the population drop plateaus out, it doesnt really matter

[stoic night]

do they ? u can see a clear down trend it went up for a while ( might be some bots ) and now its just on a stable down angle

[rose jewel]

Love me some dooming

[shut pasture]

Its been lower than this before and for a much longer period of time

[lone sigil]

november gain is definitely not normal lol

even the september gain

[mellow mauve]

the LA classic

[lone sigil]

significant numbers of those were bots

which you expect to fall off after bans

[shut pasture]

Not to mention there are other KRMMORPGs that maintain very similar numbers and have been around in NA/EU for multiple years longer

[vital tinsel]

Jumpstart surge into the holiday season, ofc there’s a fall off

[shut pasture]

And are more vicious with the RNG

cough BDO cough

[vital tinsel]

My entire guild has been on hiatus since mid Dec

[lone sigil]

MS is a better example

[stoic night]

nah this game will last for quit a while since the combat is pretty fun

[shut pasture]

MS too

[lone sigil]

developers scam the players, get fined by Korean regulators

[stoic night]

but u cant say its perfectly fine

[mellow mauve]

most of nexon mmos

[lone sigil]

still has like 20k concurrent in the west

BDO at least is much better run

[shut pasture]

Every game has issues of some measure, but gone are the days of MMORPGs maintaining huge population numbers

At least outside of WoW and FFXIV

And even those two games have respective huge dips during content lulls

[lone sigil]

people really arent aware of the KMMO formula

[rose jewel]

I've seen MMOs with like 5k players stay alive for years, even less ppl

[lone sigil]

which is "as long as we have a 5 digit concurrent players and the core audience is still playing and spending, everything is fine"

[terse swallow]

Tera was still rolling around years after I quit before it finally kicked the bucket

[lone sigil]

they dont really care that much about player growth, sure it's nice but what matters is existing players continuing to play and spend

[old peak]

I play an MMO that currently has around 1k , if that , active players. Lol. It's possible.

[lone sigil]

as long as those numbers dont really fall off, it's whatever

[stoic night]

i mean in the end it was more like a dead man walking tho 😄

[rose wren]

steam sameish

[terse swallow]

Yea but like think about how long it lasted lol

[rose wren]

jp region lost ark is on shut down

[terse swallow]

Like I was outa there in 2015-16

And i thought it was dead then lol

[shut pasture]

JP don't play MMORPGs unless its FFXIV

[lone sigil]

the game failed in japan for a lot more complicated reasons other than "lost ark bad"

[stoic night]

i mean low player numbers mean low server costs 😄 if there are a few whales left they can keep it alive for a while

[lone sigil]

japan has never been a pc gaming country

they also dont like their time consuming, sit at home grinds when easy entry games like apex exist or mobile games

[stoic night]

with all the mmo type anime thats coming out there kinda surprising maybe they are not really into the whole rng p2w stuff 😄

[lone sigil]

for rpgs, they want their strong story, rich worldbuilding and characters

which ff14 provides, on top of being part of the beloved ff franchise

[stoic night]

meaning they have standarts we dont 😄

[shut pasture]

Lets be honest...thats kind of also more for westerners

SAO is still disturbingly popular in the west, unsure about it in Japan

[lone sigil]

the last grindy mmo that was popular in japan was FF11

[rose jewel]

Eww sao

[quiet rose]

my ilvl is 1540 , will argos raid use my gold reward count if i still had it ?

[lone sigil]

if mainly due to it being a FF title and the first online FF

[rose wren]

BDO is popular too

[lone sigil]

you dont get gold from argos past 1475

[shut pasture]

No, because Argos doesn't reward gold for you anymore.

[stoic night]

I mean there are tons of isekai anime with mmo stuff mixed in or this new one thats also pretty popular crappy game hunter or what it was called

[rose wren]

no, it tells u

[rose jewel]

Argos doesn't count for end game content, also it will stop giving gold at 1475 regardless

[quiet rose]

alright

[lone sigil]

anyways lost ark japan release was just not doing any market research at all

[rose jewel]

Agreed

[stoic night]

how long did it last there ?

[rose jewel]

Now we will have some JP people on steam

If they ever wanna play the predatory KR MMO that is

[lone sigil]

a little over 3 years in japan

[rose jewel]

Oh no we have 1yr of life left

[stoic night]

that was a quick death lmao

[rose jewel]

Adding a "Kappa" before someone thinks it's real

[lone sigil]

because the game released in a market that it never should have released in

pc gaming, especially mmos, never really caught on in japan

even wow never made it big there

[rose jewel]

FF being the special one

[lone sigil]

the 2 online FFs, FF11 and FF14, both have console play

because Square Enix knew that Japanese gamers dont have pcs lmao

[shut pasture]

FFXIV is on consoles, though

And they have UI support for consoles

Like...heavily

[rose jewel]

Ye ye

[lone sigil]

in fact, console support held back the game heavily back in the day

[stoic night]

Lost ark wtih gamepad kekw

[lone sigil]

because of PS3 limitations

apex is also popular there..... and that's on consoles too

[shut pasture]

Honestly its also probably why their server tickrate is still ass bad

for FFXIV*

[lone sigil]

also internet cafe culture in japan is very different from that in korea

internet cafes are literally a cheap place for you to sleep and read manga rather than game with the homies playing LoL

[rose wren]

apex boring

[rose jewel]

I'm not into battle royals usually, unless I play with friends

I suck at them so I better play for fun with friendos

[vital tinsel]

BRs are for zoomers

16-

And streamers who profit off zoomers

[teal patrol]

Does the south vern power pass expire? In my character inventory it showed a expiration of 2/7/2024 but when I clicked on it to add it to my roster page I don't see any expiration anywhere

[rose jewel]

It does expire

Use it or lose it

[teal patrol]

Darn. I just started playing and don't know what to use it on. Guess I'll just pick a random class

[rose jewel]

?jumpstart

[sage dune]

[Jumpstart Server Info](#jumpstart message)

> Jumpstart servers are now merged to include matchmaking with rest of the region.

Class Selection Advice Guide by Nexus Team

New Player South Vern Powerpass Systems Guide by Icy058

Jumpstart Character/Inventory Setup by civo

T3 Gear Progression Guide by Icy058

Jumpstart Optimized Todo/Checklist by Atum|Talmar

Ask for questions and help in #jumpstart and #lost-ark-help.
Also check pinned messages in both channels for more resources.
Consider reading #lao-faq if you are brand new to the discord.
Our #new-player-tips covers an overview of the main components of Lost Ark.

[rose jewel]

First link, also just pick whatever tickles your fancy

All classes are good

Or tell us what kind of gameplay style you like in other games / mmos

[teal patrol]

I like the paladin in world of Warcraft when I played like 10 years ago

[rose jewel]

2 basic choices, support or dps

Paladin in this game is strictly support and will never do damage

If you like supporting it's a good pick

If you like doing damage, do not pick one of the 3 support classes

Anything more specific?

[teal patrol]

Can I use a power pass on one character so it doesn't expire and then start a new character to experience playing through the whole story with? Just pick up the power pass character a few months later?

[rose jewel]

Yes but there is a catch

If you use the pass on, let's say, a male warrior, you are locked on picking a male warrior advanced class, be it paladin, Gunlancer, destroyer or berserker

You can't pick X base class and then switch to Y

Like pick a warrior and use it on a mage, for example

[teal patrol]

I like doing damage from a distance so I can dodge easier. Or being super tanky. I haven't played a game on PC in a decade and will probably be really slow and make tons of mistakes

[rose jewel]

Gunlancer, Destroyer, Sharpshooter, Artillerist

Tanky af, tanky af, ranged, kind of ranged and tanky, in order

[teal patrol]

Awesome thanks

[rose wren]

when i played ss i played too far away from boss

[rose jewel]

I hate you and all those who are in Narnia and can't stay close for yearning or aoe buff

Why are you like that

[terse swallow]

Company policy is to pocket the arcana

[rose jewel]

Why do you bully us supports

[rose wren]

like playing a sniper type

[rose jewel]

You're shooting your stuff from gate 2 aiming at gate 3 bro

Stay closer

[sharp galleon]

what stone do i need for a 5x3 +1?

[mellow mauve]

rip, 1sec

[mellow mauve]

there it goes

[mellow mauve]

[manic rain]

Hah

Beat u

[mellow mauve]

I accidently copied his message when I went to go paste it

[manic rain]

[sharp galleon]

💗

this is what im working with i prob have to get rid of a ring or 2 but im trying to figure out where to go from here

[paper walrus]

tf is this site

its so unordered

[sharp galleon]

what u mean ;0

[paper walrus]

use loa todo or

la tools

[heady hollow]

https://loa-todo.com/engrave

use this

and then get back to us

and we will help u

[mellow mauve]

what +1 are you going for?

[sharp galleon]

+1 hitmaster

trying to keep at least 1 ring if possible but ill throw it out worse case

[paper walrus]

try to cut a rock first

that deteremines your entire build

[mellow mauve]

^

also you got too many pips in keen

[paper walrus]

they do?

[sharp galleon]

rolling stone is easy for me
its only 6 6

6,5*

[mellow mauve]

they have two accs with keen 3 and one with keen 6

[paper walrus]

cant they just 663 keen

[sharp galleon]

yea im missing all of grudge so

[mellow mauve]

they would have to drop one of their accs, which either means the neck or the ring

[sharp galleon]

so i only need to drop 1 ring?

[paper walrus]

oh these are whats concrete

ok

[sharp galleon]

i fkd it

[paper walrus]

363 is never something you want to slot in

[sharp galleon]

i fkd it again

[mellow mauve]

^

[paper walrus]

looking at keen

[mellow mauve]

you need to decide which is gonna be your stone

[trail hawk]

every engraving should have one 3 and 2 6s

[mellow mauve]

grudge/adre, adre/keen, grudge/keen

[sharp galleon]

ok its keen 12 not keen 9

[trail hawk]

also put the +1 on the end

[paper walrus]

for ones that arent on stone or books

[heady hollow]

[mellow mauve]

the hitmaste is his +1

[trail hawk]

wtf?

[mellow mauve]

he's not putting in what stone he wants which is making it harder for himself then it needs to be

[sharp galleon]

it gives me more flexibility when buying accesories

[trail hawk]

?

[mellow mauve]

it doesn't

[trail hawk]

you can already be flexible

[mellow mauve]

you have 3 keen accs

[paper walrus]

but you are forced to get the perfect stone

[sharp galleon]

what do you mean perfect?

[paper walrus]

sure its "only" 6/5 but even then if you cut a reverse 5/6 you still have to rebuild

again

cut a rock first

[floral saffron]

bestie

[trail hawk]

you can buy 3 grudge 6adre or 3 grudge 6 keen, or 3 grudge 6 raidcaptain

[floral saffron]

cut a rock first

lol

[paper walrus]

cut until you are ssatisfied

[sharp galleon]

reverse 5/6?

[mellow mauve]

or spend a couple hundred pheons till you cut 6/6 cause rng will be rng

[sharp galleon]

ok ill cut stone fine

thx for help 😉

but where do i go from here after stone

[paper walrus]

when building, prioritize
stone>class accessory>neck>everything else

[trail hawk]

you put the stats of it in

then you go to market and check which +3 your class +6 is the cheapets

[sharp galleon]

so i need 2 gear pieces for grudge 1 +6 and 1 +3 (plus stone)

trying to calculate

[paper walrus]

cut your tone first

you could hit a 9 on grudge

and that lets you have more flexibility

[sharp galleon]

yea but im trying to look out for it first

[trail hawk]

cut the stone with one engraving from lvl3 engravings and the +1

[sharp galleon]

i see what you mean ;/

[trail hawk]

ie in your case, grudge + hit, or keen blunt + hit

[paper walrus]

why is it even hm +1

[sharp galleon]

ill get rolling

[trail hawk]

eh, you have the book raid captiain

[sharp galleon]

shadowhunter

[tranquil pagoda]

is gargadeth a beast

[paper walrus]

oh you need adr 3 for kbw

ok

[trail hawk]

and adrenaline stones are expensive*

[paper walrus]

should be

[sharp galleon]

yea theyre crazy

[regal oar]

anyone having revelry row song bug in stronghold?

[trail hawk]

thats why either get grudge + hit or keen + hit

[paper walrus]

lots of people

[regal oar]

has it been like that? or just recent

[trail hawk]

since 3 weeks

[regal oar]

so sad.. literally just got the song today too xD

[tranquil pagoda]

time to raise beast cards

[paper walrus]

shouldve been doing that for g3 voldis

[tranquil pagoda]

does it hit g2

[paper walrus]

uhhhhh maybe

[tranquil pagoda]

seems like a waste of card exp to do it for one gate

[paper walrus]

beast is fairly common type

[trail hawk]

ape, frog

[paper walrus]

what else would you raise after demon

human for pvp