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cuz its like 18 gold per
That’s 18 gold per you don’t need to spend
If you have enough mats from bound
also fair ye
I mean u dont have enough mats with that luck and monthly age account
using only bound mats and selling tradables is sure fire way to avoid rage honing
^
also zrebix how did u not get 1460 im confused its only like 35k if you even pity everything
35k?
you would have loved the 1300-1370 deadge zone
I am equally confuse
I dont had bound orehas tho cuz how I got them
still like 20k
you make your own
it costs gold
so
ye lesser gold than market
you're supposed to set it to optimal materials not no additional
He’s showing worst case
worst case with no mats is worse than worst case if you used optimal materials
no cuz he mentioned he pity'ed 4 piece so i was like lets see how bad it gets idk where his gold is dissapering into thin air but ye
he should have like a solid 30k even if he bought oreah's
well yeah hmm
He used books too 🤷🏻♂️
buying books 
Idk this all sounds weird
idk if it was good idea someone few days earlier said its a good idea xD
so it is or nah
books are ehhh i cant tell a diff honestly
I mean it was all pity anyway
its a probability its al left to rng
Books pity it faster like any additional mat it adds to artisin iirc
In hard cube, better for bard to use betrayal or stick with yearning?
Betrayal
no time for tarkov
I can setup a bifrost on like tooki island and when the thing spawns just go there right?
you can't set it on tooki but you can set it near tooki, but there are several different spawn points
cant you just like see that on the map...
no
it have different spawns
Im just missing one una till full rep on this shit of an island
You can only see which one it is via map until it actually spawns, then the search result will only show the spawned one. But kinda scuff since you don't want to be caught getting into low person instance
ig its ever changing but ye i can sorta find it
...yes, we know the spawn locations of tooki, but there are several
pretty sure the search result shows them all?
yes it does
ye all 4
In the 3 minutes that island is spawned, if you search for it, the spawned island shows in purple. But not good enough since you still need to sail there, and if you make it, high chance of being in low person instance
So still better to ask
Yea, that's the most practical way if no one answers.
No, spiral only at one that will spawn
Nonspawn will just be empty sea
or simplest just auto complete with unas tickets xd
but i think there are worse places for me to use those as well
Community service: Last call to trade event tickets for silver, and also buy out the tradable leggo book pouch from clown and brel shops since prices are gonna crash hard, probably, while also buying honing books and store for artist 
Honestly im no longer salty about anything just 1 tapped my wep
gold nerfs let them come thru wooo
I don't need to touch my weapon for a while, thank god i pushed to +20
+17 but eh was expecting to spend like a solid 10k on that
so 1 tap was kinda pog
I honestly just honed to use all my event books
cuz why waste em ig and they came in clutch
i mean for brel you need +20 all anyway so use them up
then you start replacing with brel pieces and honing feels easier for a bit
till what ilvl?
1490 for brel
does it not transfer as 1490
from your old set
1390*
wait shit no 1490
im high xd
from old argos gear it gets tranfered to like +6 hone and 1490 right
argos gear is the same as valtan vykas gear
brel is different in ilvl progression
e.g. +20 (1490) -> +12 (1510) .+21 (1505) -> +13 (1520)
oh ye 10% thats nice
i mean
not exactly any rush to get there
current (not even out yet for months) end game?
that's for akkan so you got so much time
why the rush to get there
my main is just 1560 anyway, casually honing and stopping at 1565

akkan is like 5 to 8 months away
but im not akkan hard ready yet how can i play 
I tried that
worked for me, if you assign the class again and unassign
assigned and unassigned and assigned
unassign again ;D

anyway if you have troubles just ask a mod for help #request-a-mod
sometimes the bot is stupid
ty
Even if I'm not running macros? Just having the razer app running?
Haven't had that pop up until today
that answer was like 2 years ago
were you using the right roles? you have them all set as main
yes, just by having the program
that's why i use logitech
razer has fucked up my pc and games so many times in the past
they disappear when I select/reselect, but then they all come back after 10 seconds

are you sure you're deselecting the mains? that's a seperate section after the normal class roles
otherwise just do this
reddit has a bunch of sooking as well
It just makes me shake my head
Because its very vocal individuals with less sense about the game pretending they are experts
And know better
i live for this
We will see a huge decrease in pricing for just about everything over the next few weeks. People will actually have to push their army of alts instead of just sitting at 1445 and taking lazy free gold from argos and valtan
noice
classic
updates are never set in stone even when announced 
i can't believe they are still doing this
imagine announcing things, THEN doing the testing
i mean there was a time when they said that and hours later "oh nvm we gucci"
actually you're right i can believe they're doing this again
i'll wake up in a burning world tomorrow anyway
When was the last time this happened, anyway?
they might fix it before tonight I suppose
Doesn't sound that frequent to me, then.
But people remember the negative over the positive.
there was a time
doesnt mean it was several times, but yeah could have worded it differently
but delay = once, glaivier
fake delay = once, forgot when
I mean shit happens. Also testing happens up to the last minute a lot anyway due to QA redundancies
i do know that and i understand
kinda unprofessional of them to hype the thing but what can you do
correct
not saying no
tell that to the forum people with a torch at hand already
better for me, more gold next week lol
It was the slated release so of course they are going to say "Yeah, its happening as intended" but again shit happens. Programming is a bitch of trial and error as much as people, mistakenly, think it isn't.
so 1 more week of good gold rates?
wait for news
Maybe. It could be resolved before maintenance or just be a delayed release tomorrow but we'll see.
question is
i don't think i've ever seen any mmo announce the update was coming and then delayed it same day
well ill just spam all my argos / oreah today then
let alone twice
what will happen to froggo if they delay artist
Then you'd be wrong.
can you name one example?
do we have a clue of what the new card set is going to be?
if you say so
this happens with large patches for many mmos, happened to Elsword, AQW, Warframe, etc.
I literally have friends who work in the field who tell me stories of how code stops working and they don't know why or it starts working again and they don't know why
i've done the bare minimum in coding and it's a huge pain in the ass, all respect to those who work in programming
When you're dealing with thousands upon thousands upon thousands of interconnected lines of code...fuckery is bound to happen and you're like "da fuk?"
Just press the "Fix" button bro, its that ez /s
and u have to skim the entire code and be like WHERE TF DID I MESS UP
And sometimes its as simple as "oops misplaced 0" other times...not so much
i know programming can be spaghetti but i still haven't ever seen anyone delay an update they announced in the same day, delaying an expected patch with a week advanced notice maybe
sometimes as simple as forgetting to put the ending ] or ; LOL
one of the more anticipated releases as well

idk if you read the patch notes, shit is huge lol it happens with large expansions sometimes in so many other games
It happened on Warframe I believe...2 years ago with one of their larger updates. The day of release they put out an announcement that it had to be delayed due to erroneous shit going on that they didn't have a timeline on a fix for
new large expansion launches are a shitshow but i've never seen one delayed on the day of release
literally anything of ALL that shit could have died
congrats you have now get over it 
It was either a Railjack thing or a content addition thing on Warframe, can't remember what
QA tends to continue even up to the point of release and even afterwards because you're not always going to catch everything.
Hotfixes are a thing for a reason
to add-on, sometimes you won't see anything happen until after you run it and it goes live to players
in the end im not complaining, it sucks but 
not the end of the world
now, tell that to redditers or forumers and oh boy
yep its hard to tell lost ark players, but touch grass or sleep in some more 
is video game, not a delay on a life saving surgery
They heard I'm going out of town for a couple days and delayed the update for my benefit. Sorry, gamers.
so you were the culprit
Damn them and being accommodating
just delay your travel bro
but then they'll delay the update twice
goddam
it is very professional to learn your update doesnt work 10 hours before the update
indie company
nah in programming, shit happens is a blanket statement to cover any and all major flaws
i wish you guys luck on answering "is patch delayed"
is there a stagger cap on skills with overwhelm runes?
No
And is unfortunately accurate.
You can bet money on programmers wishing that wasn't the case, but it is
Would mean less stress and headaches in their job
Is Reddit on fire yet
probably
Give it 10 minutes.
im going to look at the forums
always good stuff
roxx why no cute ayaya 
today is a good day to surf
i'm not letting them slide on such a major fuckup a second time, even if programming is hard, but i'm the one still playing the game so i guess i'm the joke in the end
actually that does mean i'm letting them slide for it
buddy just quit xd
well reddit was already dying so this wont help 
why? i enjoy the game, i severely dislike the management
one day that may outweigh the enjoyment of the game
Yo where to go after luttera
at least i think i enjoy the game
there should also be guide quests if nothing else appears (later on)
Under main quest it just days finding the arks
last time i remember them delaying on the day of patch they fixed it in within a few hours and actually released it no?
imma give it time
that was a different one but yes that also happened
throw us a screenie of your whole J window
idk when it was
and we will likely find something to work with
the delay/actually not delay was glaivier release in april
you see that blue quest they told you to do? do that
remember when i said blue quests?
i see a very big blue colored quest there
literally on top of all quests
Oh the sailing basics?
yes
yellows and purples are side quests
unclaimed login rewards will be sent to universal box storage right?
but purples can also be guide quests, which are important
but for now just follow the blues
next stop should be tortoyk i think
okiokii thank you!!
this is budget LoS right 
they really using old storylines
i'm not actually sure what those card sets do, but they were in other regions right?
mhm i heard they were a budget LoS that have similar effects
budget LOS and LWC
i swear i saw a reddit post on it
they gud
damn
The management of it honestly isn't bad...I'd rather this than NCSoft, or Gamigo, or my.games or Trion or Kakao...
remember KOG games 
All the typical eastern game port publishers
does anyone know the preferred reflux sorc build? i see theres lots of variations
instant critflux
it looks like the budget LOS is up to +12% additional damage and budget LWC is up to +1.5% additional damage to party?
and uses partially the same cards, just added a new set bonus
do u have link
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yep kanima things
it can but preferably you want overall damage increase tripods
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ty ty
at the very least the numbers check out
kanima is usually pretty good either way
r the engravings from the new returner-login rewards tradeable?
maybe takes the whole xffing too serious though
What class is the easiest to learn and play with?
paladin
sorc , if a bot can do it so can you
paladin for support, reflux sorc for dps
Ok
i have half+ of the current classes on my roster and i'd say pally or shunter
demonic impulse is easy to play but needs some good runes (and wealths are on the harder side to get). perfect suppression is cheaper/better at endgame but harder to play
pally is so easy to the point you fall asleep playing it
and PS is only cheaper in early-mid endgame, more expensive at late
What’s perfect suppression
yeah I'm not the type to crap on other people's classes but imo paladin is the only class in the game I don't like
each class has two different ways of playing it
so Shadowhunter has Demonic Impulse and Perfect Suppression
i love supports and will make a whole roster of support as my 2nd roster, but pally is so boring imo
dont play perfect depression
each their own
often playstyles are very different between the two
Ohh ok
either one of paladin, combat readiness gunlancer and demonic impulse shadowhunter
perfect suppression is legit though, and getting another big buff this patch (if it ever releases LUL)
probably reflux sorc
I’ll try demonic impulse
perfect depression is... positional
yeah and it has a strict rotation
i rather mash keys without looking than chasing ass
he asked for easy classes
lets just answer with easy classes c:
Ok so I’ll try out reflux sorcerer and demonic impulse
What does reflux sorcerer do?
machine gun mage
cast many spells
its jst a masher
casts very fast with high mobility
Ok
What about demonic impulse?
it's the safest class in the game so it's easy for beginners - high mobility, can spam teleports, and is mostly ranged
same sht but u need to transform
demonic impulse is also a spammer, but is (mostly) melee
Ahh ok tyvm
but it has a self-heal and unlike most melee it's not really positional
you look like a black blob but you just mash your face on the keyboard and do damage
demonic form has 2 skills on a longer cd compared to the rest of the kit and u jst spam the rest
most melee have to worry about back attacks (or, sometimes, front attacks) so you have to position specifically. demonic impulse doesn't really care, which makes it easier. in its demon form, which you will be a lot of the time, you have super high mobility too
Ok thanks
zerk best class trust 
eww
why no blonde demon mommy ags
just NB if you're a new player, you won't really make the choice between which class variant you play until you finish a certain part of the story, so none of this will make sense at the start
floorzerker
What’s nb
watching a vid might actually bait u for demonic cause u prob wont be transforming as often so it'll feel ass
latin for "note" 😛 just habit from my writing
all classes feel like ass pre relic
idk about u but surge felt pretty good compared to wdancer for example

I'd argue anything which doesn't use spec (or run out of mp...) feels aight, but yeah - you don't get the full gameplay experience until later
like taijutsu scrapper always feels good
wardancer was ass to prog with
it was what i started with on launch and dropped it after getting pp
Should i turn in all my event tickets today?
yes
Is summoner a good class for beginners?
all classes are good, you learn them as you play them 
ok
base honing chances are going up in the patch right? I'm 1420 right now, should I just park until patch?
Yeah I didn't say tomorrow's patch 😏
future proofing i see
something something dead games don't get patches
Just had a strange wipe during brel gate 5. Party 1 was inside the cube, passed stagger check and was around 5 HP bars when the exit door suddenly disappeared and we wiped. The outside player was still alive... anyone knows what we wiped to?
wait so no express etc tmrw?
how was p2
was 1 player from p2 outside?
did the outside player die?
ive been up since 4am
i will missread things
anyway
did p2 miss the stagger
did everyone had 3 stacks
did you take your sweet time in there
idr if you have a time limit to do stuff
hard to guess with no vid honestly
Entire party was 1560 so pushed extremely fast, couldn't be time. We did not have 3 stacks but it shouldn't matter because cube was alive. Nothing p2 does should wipe p1 right? I guess the only explanation is if the outside player lagged and didn't realize they were dead 🤷♂️ yeah unfortunately no vid
i'll be honest, im just guessing things, i just do the mechs but idk which certain scenarios can cause the wipe
that means there is no gold nerf tmrw lets go
Is it worth to just set the entirity of my stronghold farm to fish, for orehas?
its not worth to do this at all I think manually spending life energy is way more gold
whatever you need bud, whatever you need
if you cant be bothered doing it manually evey 2 days for more / better income
is this updated? or is it gonna be after this patch?
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is the gear you get from doing valtan and vykas the last set of gear in the game? and the other raids just enhance it?
No, Brel norm, Brel hard, Akkan are all soft resets in gear
well it's the same set bonus so kinda i guess maybe?
Oh, so the valtan/vykas gear gets to +15 and then gets replaced like all the past gears?
Yea, same progression as Argos gear but through upper relic and ancient
Guys i can use the power pass with lvl 1? or i need to be lvl 50 at least? (alt ofc)
lv1 is fine
Will there be buses after the update or is it just not worth it anymore
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Shity randoms don't even know mech lots of gatekeeper
zerk got buffed this upcoming patch?
Hate the grind to w8 for some one to join when u in jail
and part of the reason people don't know mechs is because everyone is being gatekept or doing busses and not learning anything
True still hate jail
plus being on ilevel or +-10 ilevel
will we like get gold reduction patch tomorrow? Or did it get delayed
i mean wouldn't it come out w/ the patch
even if ur 0-10 ilevel above vykas and have los 30 5x3 u will still get gatekept
cuz i thought the nerfs to gold was because of the honing qol
Heard balance patch is still coming only artist is delayed
well if you read #announcements
Can you time stop frogs in vykas hard?
yes
Should I be using all my event tokens tonight?
ya use it before maint
Guys if i quit on a specif gate and get the ticket
I can use it another day ?
Or it have an expiration date
Precisely but since the patch go delayed prob next week
According to them they are making the way easier to 1445 and they dont want veteran players doing old content.
Its so bad for newer players but all i can see is try to push to 45
brel hard isnt a soft reset btw
they removed gold cost for honing to 1445
Yes. You move to ancient gear that unlocks +25
thats not a soft reset
They removed gold cost ?
brel relic to brel ancient is a 1:1 transfer, its not a soft reset
for honing yes
do u even understand wat a soft reset is?
just reacting cuz u know ur wrong lol
I already know your gonna argue the base ilvl has to increase. And I would disagree because you have to transfer gear to a higher tier. I'm not wasting my time on you
Since the update was delayed, will I be able to get the regular raid gold for now?
The 4 engraving you get from event permanent?
temporary, it exists for the event duration and then goes away after the express ends

wats resetting when u transfer gear to a higher tier?
ye, until the patch comes out
Time to rush all raids before maint
I dont expect the patch to come earlier than next Wed
it's a reset when the honing level resets to 0 and it's a soft reset when the honing level changes to something not 0, arguing something else is just pretending words mean something you want it to rather than what others use words for
can someone tell me what are those arcanist outfits in the game? i cant find anywhere, these two ones from the kr website https://lostark.game.onstove.com/Class?detail=arcana
what happens if you die?
that's a deep question man
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ok
anyway depending on the area you either get the option to revive on the spot with a phoenix plume, revive at the entrance, or get kicked out of a dungeon/raid and revive there
do you lose anything?
or in later content you just wait until everyone else dies and then you all respawn
you lose 5% durability on your equipment
nothing consequential really
ok
Probably get flamed too
only place with a real consequence for dying is like...
cube
if everyone dies you all lose the cube entry ticket and that sucks
ok
also real life
is the event shop finishing today?
does argos count toward gold weekly limit? i didnt do valtan/vykas on all my characters adn it says this
i just sold all my tickets for silver 😦
does the update delay tonight mean everything mentioned in patch notes including qol (shift g dialogue skip, adding cube/boss rush to alt q) to gold reduc and artist delay
they didn't say anything about extending the shop duration so as far as anyone knows it's still ending today
Argos doesn’t count
argos does count
Rlly? When did they do that
abyss/argos/legion raids are all under the weekly gold limit
doing any of them that gives gold locks that character in
do you know why it says exceeded weekly gold limit? im sure i didnt run valtan/vykas on more than 2 characters
it also doesn't matter that it says "exceeded weekly gold limit" as long as your character name is in the list of characters who can get gold
Ah makes sense u should still be getting gold tho since u prob aren’t 1475 I assume
it says the message because you're at 6/6 characters who can receive gold
Did u do raids on all 6
it says the message on every character even if they are one of the characters that can get gold
no
did you do abyss dungeons
As long as u marked it as part of ur gold roster u will get gold
ty
you can hover your mouse over the text and it should tell you who can receive gold, but they also have a marker on them in char select
Will the twinkle shop be gone today?
no
Got it thanks!
for vykas 1 and 2 which sidereal do people typically use and when?
im guessing nineveh on p1 for whichever party lacks dps
Yes nineveh p1 on purple sides
nineveh on both because there's no real reason to use anything else
who says lost ark lacks support? bloody calli room all waiting for DPS!!!
Wei is a secret tech on g2 for medium damage groups
yeah wei gate 2 is standard for us, even with high damage
wei, really?
skip that stupid carousal mech
Where you can wei during doors at ~70 bars
If stagger bar is close to 0
To push more damage
interesting
Because it stops door mech
High damage runs should be doing that even moreso, its a huge dps loss if you let doors go through
BUT
It doesn’t work once you’re juiced
Because you don’t push stagger bar enough once you get doors lol
So it’s literally medium DPS tech
even with a stagger bot?
?? If you’re juiced (im talking 8x 1500 parties)
You will often just push to 70 straight off after wings stagger
Like, you will not do any stagger
we normally have like 2-3 1500+ and rotate shitty ilvl characters through our statics
Yes that is the definition of medium DPS
so...not juiced parties
so I guess thats why we use wei all the time
You’re basically running busses
yeah I guess so
Anyway - tldr: nineveh is fine
Wei p2 is good if used during doors and there is maybe 20-30% stagger bar left
I dunno if there is secret tech in using inanna (I think that’s the other option in g2) during doors to push damage similar to wei?
God players can probably work out strats to push damage through doors anyway (using rhapsody and push immune skills etc)
The only other thing is knowing when to nineveh in both gates
In g1 - easiest is during the 3 lines into wedge mech
Kick is good as well right?
If you aim nineveh at her during the lines you shouldn’t miss
Sort of? You kind of need to be familiar and know where she ends up with the kick because if you aim at her during her final attack you might miss

The jump up into inside/outside safe zone is also good as a secondary option
She always ends up in the middle of the map
So if you aim middle when you see safe zones you should also hit her
between wardancer and shock scrapper, which one has a higher skill ceiling and requires more investment to be useful
Finally for g1 - during mechs she has DR but you can aim at her just before you know the mech is about to end
G2 - doors, electric circles, worms are all good openings for nineveh
Wardancer slightly more investment. But I mean, they’re both about the same. Both will feel awful if you cheap out
Skill ceiling 🤷🏻♂️ FI WD I think is “easy” once you set it up and know what you’re doing
I haven't checked before, does wd make a spec build?
Shock is also “easy” because you don’t have much to manage other than your shock meter but I think it’s slow af so you kind of need to know how slow you are so you don’t miss your big damage skills
Er…I guess check the above? ESO is the WD burst build iirc
Signum if around is the senpai on WD
ESO only works, iirc, at endgame though
No they dont have pure spec, its swift/spec for eso and swift/crit for the other
Yeah that’s right.
WD therefore is much cheaper to produce than a shock scrapper, or equivalent for tai scrapper. Id argue that Shock is the most fun due to big numbers, but you are SO slow, and its basically mandatory to have atk speed synergy
how does stronghold gambling work. someone in area chat is holding a guess even/odd to 2x mats. and they've got it set up with like a 5% fee notification and everything
Not to mention Vykas G2/G3 you might just miss death rattle completely and lose 1/3rd your damage
and is it heavy investment to build a stronghold decor
yeah long term goal
most of the good stuff comes from merchants
or the shop, in some cases
Idk about gambling
If you want to make money from stronghold just craft
Pretty much all battle items and at least the big fusion materials will give you gold returns on crafting even if you bought the mats off the market
If you are reasonably smart about it you can make ~50k or so a week from crafting
they didn't set up the 5% fee, that's just there on all transactions and they're warning anyone who is interested about it in advance
Did someone do the math for lower gear players if they are gonna have more trouble now? because sure honing to 1445 costs no gold now but I need gold for engravings, gems and other stuff when building my characters not just gear level
It will reduce gold inflation
So things will cost cheaper
There is no “math” because we don’t know how much things will cost
The no gold to 1445 is pretty huge because you can get a character there and still earn a good chunk of gold with no gold investment for honing at all
Hmm yeah just I was earning most of my gold from legion raids on my main at 1475 and my alts at almost 1400 but now I'll make half the money with this nerf so if prices dont go down it will take double the time to finish my engravings now
also i've heard people complaining that they just wanted to do valtan hard since it's faster and chiller than doing kakul / brel every week on multiple characters
how long is maintenance scheduled for again? it's 4 hours right? so servers should be back up 5 hours from now?
Taking gold out of the economy = people have less to spend = prices go down due to demand not meeting supply
its what meants to be happening with rising interest rates in the real world as well
correct, estimated is 4 hours, could take less time or something comes up and it takes longer than 4 hours
Right now - I d just checked - it costs 73k gold on average for a new character to hone from 1370 to 1445
Oh that’s not right
That’s worst case lol
So update happening today or no lol
well say average 40k then, still good
yes 
AGS said yes, but we never know until we have it
Good
probably the good ol' "bringing update but making it a 12 hours patch due to more errors"-thing ags pulled off last time they delayed and then undelayed a patch
Well that’s a them problem. It was an issue that doing 1445 content with jacked parties still gave full rewards
That’s what causes inflation in the first place
wasnt it bots causing inflation?
it was literally free gold for stacked parties, not to mention how much money high end players were making from bussing
bots contribute
I think people like me who are at 1475 so they cant do brel and have to upgrade their jewels are the ones taking the L since newer players will have an easier time and veterans will just do non-nerfed raids
I mean, people buying gold from sources they shouldnt gain gold from is the biggest issue also causing inflation, not necessarily the biggest reason tho
a roster of 1540x6 makes like 180k a week, plus mats and drops, with nothing to spend gold on (arguably)
how does this patch change buses btw?
I mean the solution is just to hone to brel?
Less gold prob
well you only make like 500 gold or whatever from valtan hard now
Idk. The game moves on. I don’t think anyone takes an “L”
you cant ask for 2200g for it anymore, itll be like 1k at most
Ya
If you already have a roster doing legions
You were already rolling in gold
Before today
No reason your main isn’t at 1490
IMO
i see what you mean but thx
People higher yes can still get “full gold legions” but they spend more gold honing etc
And people at the highest gear are always in a more privileged position 🤷🏻♂️
as many people have said before. These changes are designed to help new people and I personally think that’s good
It'll be ez to reach 1445 now since you need no gold
I’ll say again that some of us “veterans” played through t1/2 with real honing, t3 honing with no content, etc etc
Even without express event
And we effectively wasted months of game time doing things that can be completed in a day
I remember spending hours on argos g3 lol

that's a progressive mmo for you
It’s all swings and roundabouts
1340-1370 was so bad to go through back then 
I think if you have a roster of 6x1445 for whatever reason, yeah you got fucked
But I mean, that’s just weird, and the cookie does crumble that way sometimes
you still played the game, it's not all about progression... you got game time in. would you still be playing if it were old content?
pain
sounds like a wambulance xD
having to do mechs on challenge abyss is cool, takes you back
Cool and frustrating? 😄
Have been jailed at yorn1 many times
ive seen some mechs i didnt even know existed or forgot about
practically every week it's up
Still better I think cus you got to experience all raids properly
i hate the two weeks of yorn challenge abyss
Rohendel brel is also an interesting one if you get lights/x mech
I still dont know why challenge abyss raids dont use book of coordination to scale everoyne up, rather than down
you mean "leave x player to die" mech
just auto attack 
Newish players could experience what its like being good geared and bosses would be easier to scale to actually make em a challenge
if we wipe too many times go sit in the corner and sacrifice yourself
now you're just looking for people with the most engravings, because they deal more dmg
therefore you have no reason to invite new players, but juiced ones
For challenge abyssal?
you want top tier experience go in to challenge abyss with ilvl gear 
I MM to get the mokoko to get cheaper packs do you not? 🙈🙈🙈

we're a 3-man-"static", we just pick the first player applying
Am I the only one
No lot of people do it
Surely not
but this mode still feels like dogshit, rotations are screwed, certain stat thresholds arent met
like whats that experience supposed to be like?
The 3 mokoko yorn1 is not fun though!
"REMEMBER HOW WEAK YOU FELT BACK THEN? HERE HAVE SOME MORE OF IT"
i mm just because i hate dealing with pf, it often backfires but eh
i forgot but do you need to buy the full ark pass to get the outfit?
or is it buyable on MP
"This Ark Pass includes the Dark Priest skins, warhorse mount, wallpaper, and Chromarong pet. These can also be obtained outside the Ark Pass, with the exception of the wallpaper."

oh ty
sorry i am a little confused from the annoucments ... does that mean the update will be in 1 hour or what ?
unless they switcheroo again, yes
yeah. maintenance in 30~ minutes expected to take 4 hrs
got it thank you
Wait so no delay concerning update
dont jinx it 
come back in 4 hours when we have second maintenance
should i be worried about them making upgrades with silver now instead of gold ?
worried? you should be happy
i am but we kinda use everything else in silver
like we need already a ton of silver for alot of stuff now upgrading is one of them
but maybe the upgrade cost is not alot idk
its worth it imo insteading of using gold
Doesn't it already cost silver? Just removing the gold cost?
Ya
it costs silver in the first few upgrades in tier 3
it costs silver anyway
it has always costed silver, they simply removed the gold cost
i must be blind lmao i never noticed
better start those lopangs early 
They’re also boosting rates and reducing mat usage don’t forget
they basically cut mat requirements in half
It’s not going to cost more silver than it does right now
Is there any info on the amount of materials gained from the hyper express? I know the rewards are retroactive, so at which ilvl would it still be worthwhile to hyper express a character?
I mean, at any? 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
im using it at 1430
I mean, the bonus is up to 1445, so I assume if you use it at 1442,5 you will overcap mats
But the mats you can still use
which you can then use to hone past 1445
It’s not like they delete them from your character once you hit 1445
Ah, fair, my bad. Don't have a char past 1445, though it switched to the other stones then
i hope they delete the event gems i have still
next stones are at 1490 and only the oreha fusion stones are rendered useless at that point
look so kooky next to demon skill gems
But if my cynicism is correct, they might have timed the express with the honing buffs so the express might give very little
Compared to the last express
Given you don’t need gold/as many mats to hone
it would make sense to give fewer rewards up to 1445 but a normal sized reward at 1445, but who knows what they do
Quite
with gold nerf this early compared to kr i expect them to remove it from express as well 
I’m disappointed they didn’t make the express to 1460 given the global honing buffs
That would be better for new players
1460 express was always copium 
Is frog staying?
I'm really not looking forward to the gold nerf
I'm right in that sweet spot of above 1445 but under 1490
I would be very cautious about buying engravings now from frog. It will almost certainly be a money loss
TBH I might quit
Because of gold nerf?
why
I think that’s an overreaction
Oh just want to trade in coins
My main is 1472.5
All my alts are between 1390 and 1460
Your gold will be worth more after the update
I have been progressing by funnelling gold from my alts through argos and oreha
You can still do that
I don't want to hone up all my alts to 1445 just to do compressed nvykas amd hvaltan
no want= no take more gold
no take more gold every week you lose gold
soo if you no up you lose many gold
Cause i'm losing gold
How?
?
It doesn’t cost gold to hone
Like nerfed nvykas and hvykas is less that old argos and oreha
but you’re spending none to hone to 1445
hone to 1445 no need gold
Yeah but more weekly work and less gold
u use personal loot on alts
But your gold is worth more
Do you not understand inflation
And not like I can push my alts to 1475 cause obviously i won't have the gold to get 5x3
stop stay on 1370 up to 1445 all and to 1472.5
The prices of everything will come down
push your alts to 1460 and do hm vykas instead
That is a good thing and will help you get 5x3

1 hm vykas give more than argos+oreha
I think the deflation thing is cope. I doubt leg engraving book prices will fall. Especially since frog is leaving.
How is it cope
There will literally be less gold in the game
i pray what grudge go to 10000 per book
I hope you're right
Inflation was entirely due to characters with zero investment getting 7-10k a week for “free”
only negative thing is perhaps gold nerf was pushed too early but nothing we can do about that now
Like we get less gold but gold id worth more so how does that help?

People getting 1370s with nothing bussed for huge gold
Your gold can buy more things just like in a real economy
But we also have less of it
🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈
true many people stay on 1370
good thinking
I don't know man hopefully you're right
i up all my alts to 1445 and 1460
Maybe stop just getting your alts bussed through oreha and argos and invest in them to do content
Will do the same
And hone your main to do clown/brel
your gold wont be worth anything if you try to push alts too far
Yeah but i need 5x3 first
if you no have 5x3 n o
Make a support and you don’t need 5x3
i no take sup without 4x3+2
stop pushing them and you’ll have gold to use on main 
RIP
or just make a support
Or idk, make 5x3 RE first. That’s dirt cheap too
Or find a guild that will run clown with you at 4x3
the power of connections
How long will the downtime be for art of war patch?
3-4h
13.6Go to download...
13.6gb isn't that bad compared to patches of other games
wait is it not delayed?
the servers are down, it seems to be ok 🙂
Cuz they fixed whatever problem they had that would cause the delay
I mean, they said servers will go down no matter if the patch went through or not.
But also it’s fixed.
oh ok sorry
Who is cheaper to gear - Paladin or Destroyer?
I want to use Hyper Express and Engraving Support on one of them and hone the other one the normal way up to 1445 (thx to hone buffs yay)
Both are somewhat equal gearscore
is the west north america server down?
you can just sell them lol
read up on some important news that came out today
ok ty
i would rather have ags personally delete them from my inventory than sell them for 1 silver
aight ty.
ags?
amazon game services studios
i remember that term from runescape lol
AGS = Amazon Game Studios
Amazon game studios 
no service here 

best pvp in runescape ngl
sorry used to AWS 
I can switch Hyper Express before reaching 1415 on a Hyper Express char, correct? And Engraving Support isn't automatically applied no?
So I can Punika Pass Summoner -> Hyper Expres to 1414 -> switch Hyper Express to Destro -> Use Engraving Support + Hyper Express to 1445 - does that work?
im not sure when the honing buffs start to apply
but that locks it onto a char if u hone with the honing buffs the express gives u
i long for the day aws has a worldwide outage 
that was possible on previous 1460 express
so up until 1445 u cud swap
they say this is 1445 express so perhaps its possible but mayb its even lower ilvl
you can swap as long as you dont use honing buffs that come with it
once? i don’t remember
ya, it was only allowned once on the previous express i think
Can I still kt while using the story express (ofc losing the rewards up until 302)?
no
its in order so u hav to do the full story
And why would you 🤷🏻♂️
so if u want the final rewards u hav to do everything manually
time to make new friends with the bots 
Well, someone gotta help the bots down there xd
4x3 to get going - Paladin
5x3 Destroyer by far
Update went thru?
Where the hell is the customizations folder for lost ark ? Cant find it in steamapps/lostark
have you checked #presets message
"Steam > steamapps > common > Lost Ark > EFGame > Customising"
dont have that "Customising" folder lol. Is it cuz i never saved a custom file before ? I got a new pc 2 months ago and never created a char since then
on that pc
Ye probably yes
Seems i gotta create that folder
I dont have presets anymore either because I had to reinstall everything
simply start the game once its up, create a new char and save a random preset
should create the folder
Ok thx for help
Uhm is it normal when i edit the KOR to USA and open the file again all i see is ??? signs lol
Yes
there is maintenance now?
yes
you can literally wear nothing on a support and still get accepted so paladin
when will it end?
official around 2 hours 30 minutes
my guess is like 1 hour since they usually finish early
okay ty for ur answers
I logged in yesterday after 2 months off 😭🥲 do you think if I make a ticket do I have any chance of returning?
little more than 2 hrs left on the downtime
ye, u could maybe get a chance
on a new char u want to get to t3
any of the supps
why supps? cuz easier parties?
yeah cheap to build and never gonna face any kind of gatekeeping
my roster atm is summ db ss bard artist
so i need a 6th
is the cheapest way to make a duplicate of a class?
cuz i can transfer gems
and stuff
Personally, I love running raids on supports, you'll always find a group and you can also create a group however you like
they're cheap to gear (unless you wanna min-max 5x3)
but guardian raids on em suck
ye it would be
yeah for sure
tips to get lvl 9-10 gems?
6 bard players 
even 5x3 is cheap af
my bard wont have gems for a while so
play a lot or use the magic tool 
dont bother at ur point of progression
its more expensive than most dps 

unless you aim for <80 quality
depends on market
definitely not more expensive that spec dps's
support market in NAW is so cheap
maybe equal to swift/crit dps's tho
ancient? no
atm i need around 600k gold to get proper acc
high spec
u mean including legendary books right?
some ppl listed at 200k gold

and 100k-200k lol
even 100q accs shouldnt be more than 100k
you can get a full set of 90+q for like 200k total max
100q class neck 
is 100 dollar is 11k crystals?
something like that yeah
price per crystal 238 to gold is 2810?ish
i dont see any of ur roles so idk what market ur on
im just doing quick math to see how much is needed to spend to make 200k gold lol
100 dollar is about 129.4k gold at 2800 per 238 crystals
rip
200k gold is around 90 bucks yeah?
curreny exchange is 238 crystals per 2800 gold roughly depending on market
100 dollar is 11k crystals aprox
11k/238 x 2800
me no maths atm
im better off maxing 1 engraving to 12 with 100k+ gold lol
after patch farming gona take ages
better for max grudge since its used by every class except supp
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