you go full spec unless youre trolling, but its not the worst for 1 ring crit
#lost-ark-help
shy yarrow
hallow relic
only reason why we go full spec now is cause of the bracelets
radiant flame
Shrug I just think if you play spec class it should be full spec lol
shy yarrow
bracelet is less than 100 stat, a ring can have up to 200 bro
radiant flame
Crit synergy exists for a reason
sly iron
well thank you for the advice hope this doesnt take all my gold lol
shy yarrow
that makes less sense to me but i dont play scrapper so 
hallow relic
welp dont blame me, blame whoever wrote the guide
snow wadi
will we get new character faces and shit with the witcher collab?
hallow relic
i was like fk it i go full ham with spec
shy yarrow
well thank you for the advice hope this doesnt take all my gold lol
im sure some nice people in the scrapper channel will give you some tips on a good build
shy yarrow
all my saved reskin tokens will get some use
radiant flame
well thank you for the advice hope this doesnt take all my gold lol
No problem. You’ll always make more gold. Just remember to always invest in your characters at the appropriate stage. You will need alts to make money fast in the game though. Good luck
whole citrus
What happens in G2 brel to prokel player if everyone outside dies? Could you still kill prokel, then get out and finish the raid, or must the main mechs be completed?
radiant flame
What happens in G2 brel to prokel player if everyone outside dies? Could you sti...
yes you will still trigger mechs outside
so if they "fail" stagger because they are dead
oh wait
hmm, it should be possible i think
whole citrus
hmm, it should be possible i think
So the raid can actually be solo bussed?
shy yarrow
What happens in G2 brel to prokel player if everyone outside dies? Could you sti...
the outside area continues on but the inside player can finish, exit and clear the raid
rigid plank
You would need mega dps to defeat prokel fast enough before the adds reach the limit
whole citrus
What is the adds limit thing?
shy yarrow
i think 30
radiant flame
think if there are 30 adds that dont get killed the raid just ends?
whole citrus
Ah ok, thank you
radiant flame
i imagine in theory, it is still possible at very high ilvl
if you kill prokel very quickly
but, i have no idea if it skips mechs
etc
regardless, it's semi-pointless to take gates in isolation
because other gates cannot be bussed with just a single person at all
think you need 6 for all other gates, and in g5, passenger needs to do the mech at least once
whole citrus
because other gates cannot be bussed with just a single person at all
Yeah I was more just wondering if it was necessary to restart each time many outside failed, or if I could just finish the raid
echo owl
just 6 is forced for g5 or all 8 until after first shapes
everything else can be done with 4 or less
radiant flame
everything else can be done with 4 or less
how do you do g1 with 4?
since split is random?
whole citrus
Isn't the split determined?
radiant flame
you just restart until you get drivers in each sector?
i mean, i've restarted with completely different partners
echo owl
well ya or ig you’d start as 8
radiant flame
g4 is also kind of rough with 4
echo owl
it’s rng lol
radiant flame
yellow mech is impossible
echo owl
nah not that
radiant flame
red mech is impossible
whole citrus
I just feel I'm usually in the same rooms compared to my party position for G1, just assumed that was predetermined
subtle helm
yellow is not difficult with 4
echo owl
and at some point you become super op to skip certain colors
radiant flame
oh i guess with huge stagger on one side
whole citrus
yellow mech is impossible
We 4-man staggered yellow last week with swiftflux + VPH pala
radiant flame
yep i was just dumb and forgot you stack 4 people on one side
whole citrus
Wait I think it was that, it was one of my parties, it was either my sorc or my arcana
But yeah, doable
radiant flame
Yeah I was more just wondering if it was necessary to restart each time many out...
i think it depends on how close you are. it's certainly possible, but outside is semi rough with a single person if you ahve to do a lot of hp
whole citrus
i think it depends on how close you are. it's certainly possible, but outside is...
Generally it is stuff like half the raid dead by 45x mech and restart, or everyone dying to the 80x mech I think (the 4 orb one) and wondered if restarting was necessary in those cases
radiant flame
outside should not be wiping though :x
id restart on a wipe, but if you're confident by orbs you should be okay. it's more if they can still kill the horseman before invisible prokel assasinates you
whole citrus
id restart on a wipe, but if you're confident by orbs you should be okay. it's ...
This part I know isn't necessary though, since he is visible if you get close, and he still takes dmg and can be CC'd
radiant flame
This part I know isn't necessary though, since he is visible if you get close, a...
yes it's not necessary, just a bit rough
whole citrus
Although... I learned summoner pets can't target him :' )
radiant flame
anyway im just suggesting based on average gearing i guess
if you're 1590, it's probably a different scenario 😄
whole citrus
yes it's not necessary, just a bit rough
As swiftflux that part was very doable still, since so much CC comes out from swiftflux, and can just blink close to him all the time
subtle helm
if you're 1590, would you throw away your chance at ancient gear in hard to bus normal? 
primal berry
What is rapport and why is it important?
whole citrus
But knight also happens after 45x mech, so I'd always have someone alive outside by the time he was relevant
torn breach
if you're 1590, would you throw away your chance at ancient gear in hard to bus ...
Hell no
radiant flame
if you're 1590, would you throw away your chance at ancient gear in hard to bus ...
because hard isn't out yet....
whole citrus
Is there hard kakul in KR?
radiant flame
no
whole citrus
Ah ok, thank you
torn breach
What is rapport and why is it important?
Rapport like endgame content. From rapport u will have collectiable and good stuff like skillpoint, rune, silver, .....
radiant flame
What is rapport and why is it important?
it's like "reputation" with npcs
just more horizontal
but reasonably important in that you need to do at least some to finish continents in adventure tome
which is needed for ignea tokens to get one of the skill point potions
winter mulch
if i'm 1520 on my pally already should i save pieces to craft weap for better buffs or just craft my last two armor pieces for fatter shields
radiant flame
no, armour pieces
buffs from your weapon is not super significant
you'll provide more overall support with better shielding and healing
but up to you
winter mulch
if the buff isn't that significant then armor pieces it is
more hp means i can be lazier 😛
shy yarrow
the only scaling support has is with hp so yeah, chest and legs first is probably best
winter mulch
yeah that's all done
just have 2 more armor pieces + weap left to do so I can do the two armor after g1-4, or weap after g1-6
willow mulch
Will this be a big patch or just a reset?
radiant flame
Will this be a big patch or just a reset?
reset
minor crown
January content update is next week 18th with the Witcher event
hallow relic
do alts generate enough leaps just by only doing chaos?
running really low in the silver department
echo owl
yes just incredibly slow
hallow relic
are lopangs faster than the 2 feitons and festival island unas by alot? i might just switch them if the difference is huge
radiant flame
with bifrosts they are faster
echo owl
it’s like a minute faster
hallow relic
pretty good difference
hallow relic
lol not with my roster
dull trench
I only do leap unas on 2, and lopang on 4
When I reach a certain threshold I switch one of the leap alts to lopang and viceversa
dull trench
Well it just depends what you need tbh
Looking at your profile do you have all characters or do you just enjoy pressing Buttons?
hallow relic
u can guess why do u think my roster doesnt struggle with anything but silver
neat flower
what am I suppose to do with gold as someone in T1/T2? I see ppl say gold is scarce
hallow relic
honing
flat dagger
what am I suppose to do with gold as someone in T1/T2? I see ppl say gold is sca...
Nothing until T3 pretty much.
dull trench
@neat flower gets easier when you reach t3
fallow sail
I don't think it costs gold to hone in t1 and t2 anymore
dull trench
It doesnt
flat dagger
It doesn't.
hallow relic
buy t1 and t2 mats i dunno
dull trench
No
fallow sail
Nah just save up
neat flower
also, should I use class engraving recipes? I've used 20 uncommon for igniter, playing sorc
flat dagger
also, should I use class engraving recipes? I've used 20 uncommon for igniter, p...
If you know you'll play Igniter then yea.
Ideally you should be running both books slots with your class engraving.
neat flower
books slots?
flat dagger
Yea?
neat flower
what is that
flat dagger
Your two engraving slots for your character.
flat dagger
If you have 20x rare class engravings, use those too. You should be able to buy 20x epic class engravings for cheap as well. Then you'll be at Lv. 3 Igniter.
flat dagger
so the rest will come from equipment?
Yes.
neat flower
also, when do ppl make alts for farming dailies and stuff?
I'm thinking about making one when I hit T2 but is it worth the investment rn?
flat dagger
After reaching T3 and having nothing to do.
neat flower
ah i see
dull trench
Whenever possible, eventually you will need then
low crag
earlier the better for alts
low crag
If you have 20x rare class engravings, use those too. You should be able to buy ...
think epic class books are now at least 100g each on NAE at least
neat flower
cuz I'll have to spend mats on leveling alt gears right
dull trench
I'm thinking about making one when I hit T2 but is it worth the investment rn?
Did you do Island guide for T2 mats?
low crag
thats like 2k gold prob not worth if hes new
he should have free chests though from the express
neat flower
Did you do Island guide for T2 mats?
i have just started the island guides but its for T1 mats i think?
flat dagger
think epic class books are now at least 100g each on NAE at least
EUC Igniter books were 1g last I checked a few days ago.
dull trench
No, T2 and you get class and combat engravings
low crag
EUC Igniter books were 1g last I checked a few days ago.
yeah but he plays on NAE so
idk whats with our server but
class purples are 100g minimum
dull trench
Ye, my summoners where 115g
low crag
i have just started the island guides but its for T1 mats i think?
yeah just do both t1 and t2 islands; can follow the maxroll guides
flat dagger
Summoner is different, it's new.
low crag
you should make alts whenever you feel like you want to
most of them are like that
ppl are out of class purple chests
so prices going up i guess
neat flower
yeah just do both t1 and t2 islands; can follow the maxroll guides
is this the one? https://maxroll.gg/lost-ark/resources/road-to-rohendel
neat flower
yep
dull trench
If you ultra speed run you can reach punika powerpass before it runs out
low crag
if you like semi challenging content, tower is a good way to raise roster level and gets you a lot of mats in t1 and t2
neat flower
alts will still be useful at 302 right or do ppl raise them
low crag
nah not usefula t 302
dull trench
Everything t3
low crag
you only start seeing value later on
dull trench
T1-t2 is old content
dreamy bluff
semi chalenging. i still have ptsd from that place.
i think you meant 1302.
low crag
but since it doesnt cost much resources to get to t3 in the first place
just make them and slowly push them up
as you do dailies on them
like chaos and unas
if you have friends or guildmates, can do guardians too if you feel like it and there are people that want to help
dull trench
@neat flower ignore all side content, do the Speedrun guide, push to punika and try finishing the quest
dreamy bluff
the higher the alt the bigger its source of gold/mats is. 1302 will only give you mats, as getting into t2 stuff might not be the easiest as most players are not in t2
thorn cave
when does maint start for NAW? im still able to log in rn somehow
ancient lark
alt starting to get useful after 1370 
thorn cave
ohh
radiant flame
It's just reset
no its definitely maintenance
thorn cave
tahts what i thought
radiant flame
theyre just sometimes late in taking the servers down
thorn cave
got it, thx
dull trench
no its definitely maintenance
True, should have already started
Ma bad
@thorn cave go get some sleep homie
dreamy bluff
at 1340 you unlock basic oreha but most people already past that so not gonna find party. 1370 you unlock both argos and oreha hard. alot of people still have alts and run those content on the geared characters for mats so its much easier to get carried on your alts
umbral lagoon
hey guys I just hit 1415 on my main and was wondering will anyone ever run easy valtan with me or should I just push to 1445 for hard mode asap?
snow wadi
should try and get 1445 to slowly farm your relic set anyway
there are some normal valtan groups, but most ppl to hardmode
and regardless of the difficulty of the mode, people treat this game as homework so the most favor higher ilvl players as they're scared of failing
runic tundra
estimated finished time for MT ? from now
rigid plank
3h at most, might be less
flat dagger
At most, you never know if they'll fuck it up again.
rigid plank
flat dagger
Estimate is 3 hours from now though.
rigid plank
Oh update is already out to download, so should be pretty soon 
flat dagger
That is good news, but reset isn't for another hour anyway.
@rigid plank How large is the update?
rigid plank
55 or 131mb i saw
runic tundra
its just a reset right ? did they put something
green fjord
Is their an excel sheet that really helps your builds
flat dagger
Yes, just do /class and replace it with your class.
green fjord
/class paladin
flat dagger
Replace the class word 😄
green fjord
Oh
lavish groveBOT
green fjord
Ty
flat dagger
It links to all other class guides too.
green fjord
Awesome I’m just getting into the 1415 to 1445 on all my alt and main that’s why getting into relic gear need to know what to build can’t waste gold
flat dagger
Does anyone know what's caused the sudden increase in gem prices the last couple of days?
Prices have gone up by almost 20%.
coral compass
200k bots banned
dull trench
@green fjord huh, you should have pushed to 1460 first with your main
Before alts to 1370-1415
flat dagger
200k bots banned
Source?
dull trench
The ban wave was a 2 days ago
green fjord
<@620777216724303882> huh, you should have pushed to 1460 first with your main
Did not know
I’m all over the place
dull trench
You get a honing buff Wich makes it cheaper in shards and cost to hone from 1370 to 1415
Can I see a picture of your roster?
Game is down duh
green fjord
Yeah lol
flat dagger
Once you've reached 1460 then hone whatever essentially.
green fjord
I have pali 1442 3 others glacier sorcs and summoner at 1396 ish close to 1400 and gunslinger at 50
dull trench
Ye stop pushing alts
Push Pali to 1460 with hyper express
Should get you close to 1460
green fjord
I need alot of great honor stones
green fjord
No I mean 😂 I have 0 on pali gotta go get some
dull trench
Unbound funnel to main or sell
Well you have 4 t3 characters funnel then all into pali
dull trench
Yep
green fjord
How long is the game down for ?
dull trench
Estimated time 3h
Could be less could be more
@green fjord once you get Pali to 1460 and 4x3
You are golden
You will have no trouble getting in to a party
green fjord
4x3 ? New terminology I’m learning 😂 please explain
dull trench
4 engravings at level 3
Press P, go to engravings tab
Look at your paladin guide and see what you want/need
green fjord
So currently I have a dps pali just because just now getting into relic gear so imma prioritize getting a fresh set for support build
I already have 4x3 but it’s like dmg stuff
wraith basin
keep doing you
green fjord
Anything that was 1 gold to bid on
dull trench
So rainbow paladin
green fjord
Tho I did mess up because no more pheons 😭
flat dagger
You know it costs pheons right? 25x per accessory.
dull trench
And it still costs 25 pheons
green fjord
I know sadge
flat dagger
With current blue crystal prices, that's very expensive.
wraith basin
yea relics actually cost 1g + 10k gold in pheons
dull trench
So 125 pheons kinda wasted ma bruh
green fjord
Yah
dull trench
Always ask, before you do something you don't understand
It will save you weeks if not months of gametime
Well all I can recommend now, is save gold for pheons or swipe
Any group leader will not take you with dps engravings
green fjord
I have 300,000k gold atm
dull trench
Wtf
flat dagger
dull trench
🐳
green fjord
Sooo once games comes up I’ll hit you guys up and see if you can help me fix my account 😂
hallow relic
wait 300k gold or really that amount u just typed
dull trench
Well he invested over 200$ in the game then
hallow relic
uh u just said yes both my question
dull trench
RMT
green fjord
Other than that I try to be as f2p as possible
hallow relic
uh theres no way u got that amount of gold u typed with $30 without rmt
green fjord
I did
flat dagger
Get this guy out of here.
hallow relic
so 300k or the amount u typed
green fjord
Well it was 285,000
hallow relic
um u do realize the k was a big difference
dull trench
Well just hope you don't get banned
And don't go around saying you RMT
You will be looked down upon
green fjord
Main purpose for it was mainly just skins and mounts really
dull trench
RMT is huge issue in this game, and it sucks, and feeding in to it is not helping any of us
flat dagger
Of course, he's part of the current problem.
green fjord
I really do like the cosmetics
green fjord
No like Cerberus
tropic steppe
At this point idc if people rmt. Its AGS' fault now.
I dont blame the player for getting the best value out of his money.
I almost regret not rmting all I spent instead of doing it through steam 🤷♂️
green fjord
Only one I want I know all others are earnable
dull trench
Everything in-game is earnable
green fjord
Cerberus ?
tropic steppe
Earnable with gold as long as thrres still some in AH 
I make 150k+ a week without bussing with my roster.
hallow relic
^
green fjord
I mean I heard you can easily farm 50k once roster is set
dull trench
^
hallow relic
severely underestimate how much gold u get once u get an established roster
tropic steppe
Then again I spent over 35k USD on the game. 
dull trench
Friendly advice
green fjord
Then again I spent over 35k USD on the game. <:Deadge:961178705240141855>
On this game ?
dull trench
If your earning 150k+ a year, and it won't dent your life why not
dull trench
I can spend around 100-200€ a month and be Gucci
My wife would take my balls but still
green fjord
I was thinking artist when it comes
green fjord
What is RMT tho like process wise
radiant flame
Oh boy
green fjord
To be honest first time hearing it
hallow relic
somehow getting 300k with $30
all whales rmt
we just do it legitimately through amazon
dull trench
we just do it legitimately through amazon
And legitimately Amazon screws us back
@green fjord anyway what's done is done, spend some gold on pheons get support engravings 4x3
And save gold for alts
green fjord
Are the rmt done through auction house
hallow relic
really link me the site u got the gold from
green fjord
Yeah
dull trench
You did not get 300k for 30$ in-game shop
green fjord
Welll the website guy told me to buy a tier 2 gem list it for the buy price of 300k and then he bought it
green fjord
Okay
dull trench
And against tos
dusky sigil
💀 emoji
dull trench
You do you, but ur feeding the problem, and AGS doesn't give a shit
If you get banned, don't go somewhere saying/asking why you got banned 
edgy mason
lol sunny spoken by a poet,
faint pagoda
dull trench
Doing my best Jaskier cosplay
dull trench
What I love about this is the guy RMTd for a DPS paladin
Imagine doing that not getting in to groups, and then getting banned
hallow reef
eu servers not showing up?
eternal mural
Hi guys! I started reading the convo, 'cause I have some problems with gear myself... Could you tell me what should I do when I reach 1370?
hallow relic
can rmt like the other guy, or get ur oreha and argos gears u get from raids
dull trench
Do Argos and oreha hm
Keep honing to 1445 with hyper express
@hallow reef maintainence
hallow reef
until?
dull trench
Estimated 2h
hallow reef
omfg...
dull trench
hallow reef
why noooowww
eternal mural
So Argos and Oreha, ok 
dull trench
Because it's Wednesday and it's programmed?
hallow reef
Because it's Wednesday and it's programmed?
every weekly reset is 2h maintenence??
hallow relic
So Argos and Oreha, ok <:NOTED:939709472060899338>
u have guild yet, u havent join one yet, join a guild
dull trench
@eternal mural you can find groups for oreha "Carry, no bid"
faint pagoda
every weekly reset is 2h maintenence??
4
dull trench
every weekly reset is 2h maintenence??
Estimated time is 4h, just 2h left now
hallow reef
bruh xDD
dusky sigil
Addict?
dusky sigil
You have 1 week for it bro
flat dagger
It's too late to hit 1415 before reset, reset is in 16 minutes.
faint pagoda
dull trench
and im inpaintent so
This game doesn't reward impatient people
That's how they get you to cash in
hallow reef
no im not gonna whale
its just its finally the weak i get fully legy gear and hone it to 1415 and i was hyped to get to it in the morning
but event.
i guess i have 40 mins
dull trench
Play at your own pace, enjoy the journey
faint pagoda
the game is a marathon not a sprint
dull trench
Once you get 1415, you'll want 1430, then 1445 and so on
hallow reef
no guys im not trying to speedrun bruh
dull trench
There is never an end to it
But yes hitting 1415 is fun for the first time
Just do hyper express and hone all the way to 1460
faint pagoda
Just do hyper express and hone all the way to 1460
sad reaper lopang alt noises
faint pagoda
hallow reef
Just do hyper express and hone all the way to 1460
yup
for the final reward i need to pay 1m silver or i get 1m silver?
faint pagoda
hallow reef
<:Susge:905388724047716362>
who knows its lost ark in the end 
faint pagoda
dont give them ideas
cosmic elbow
why is central europe closed and when does it open
faint pagoda
quaint isle
friends I started the game again 1460 ilvl scrapper I have 2 1370 sub accounts I have 40k gold what would you recommend for my rapid development
faint pagoda
3 alts for a total of 6 chars to 1370 be sure to research the honing buff in sh
quick lintel
hiyo, i just hit 600 and am playing through yorn for the first time - near the end now
once i finish this part of the story will i start getting new gear with a higher ilvl floor or still 302 gear and need to continue honing my existing equipment?
faint pagoda
chaos gives you 802 gear you can transfer your old one onto the new one for free +1
quick lintel
chaos gives you 802 gear you can transfer your old one onto the new one for free...
oh that's neat, i didn't know that. thanks
spiral jackal
whenever you get new gear, you're gonna be transferring from old to new at the Gear Honing place
quick lintel
so..
- get new 802 gear
- gear transfer to destroy my 600 stuff and boost my 802 gear by +1
- hone till im at the next story step
- ???
- profit and buy another swimsuit
spiral jackal
faint pagoda
sounds about right
tropic steppe
This guy gets it.
pseudo atlas
skip 2, they've changed it for t1/t2 to make it pointless though it's not a significant loss if you do it anyway
quick lintel
skip 2, they've changed it for t1/t2 to make it pointless though it's not a sign...
i'll just do it anyway and find out, i don't need the old gear anyhow 🙂
wtb more skin releases from the korean shop though
severe vapor
why evergrace is still in maintenance?
severe vapor
but it showing me that all the servers are up except evergrace and neria
wicked juniper
but it showing me that all the servers are up except evergrace and neria
try clicking on each one, one by one they all gonna go into maintenance 
faint pagoda
guess there just coming back online one after another
severe vapor
try clicking on each one, one by one they all gonna go into maintenance <:PepeLa...
oh yeah 🙂
wicked juniper
maiden locust
how long is maintenance?
faint pagoda
hushed bone
Heya, is there a new website/sheet updated to keep track of your collectables and whatnot? Since I came back a week ago or so; still been using Rey's sheet, but the last update to that sheet was in March so... missing a few things
hollow wraith
Does the inate tankiness of classes go like warriors > martial artists > transform classes > rest (floor pov) or is there more to it? And I guess, outside of gunlance and paladin, does it make a huge difference?
faint pagoda
hollow wraith
That's what I was lookin for, thanks a ton
faint pagoda
radiant flame
That's what I was lookin for, thanks a ton
In reality it’s also more like, supports > gunlancer > rest
fair bobcat
server not up yet more than 4 hours now? 😮 somethiong went wrng?
faint pagoda
still 1 hour
radiant flame
Because bard regularly (and imo should) take heavy armour
fair bobcat
https://preview.redd.it/3rmrgkeraoa81.png?width=484&format=png&auto=webp&s=a61e0...
what this?
faint pagoda
tankyness sheet
radiant flame
And if you’re not a support or blue GL, you typically do not want to be taking damage regardless
fair bobcat
why is bard last? i swear i dont feel the dmg from any raid bosses as a tank
faint pagoda
doesnt account heavy armor
radiant flame
why is bard last? i swear i dont feel the dmg from any raid bosses as a tank
Because you don’t have grudge and probably have HA
fair bobcat
and berserk should be last you get 1 shot at anything lol
green halo
because normally you'll be with a shield as well, when you get hit
wicked juniper
Because bard regularly (and imo should) take heavy armour
ye i was trying to ask if i should replace heavy armor with VPH with a 4x3 setup and got told she'd then be the most paper class in the game 
radiant flame
ye i was trying to ask if i should replace heavy armor with VPH with a 4x3 setup...
You won’t be paper
fair bobcat
i dont shield i use the fast specialty bar for bard
radiant flame
But HA is more important than VOH in my opinion
wicked juniper
But HA is more important than VOH in my opinion
yeee, doing last week brel g4 made me kinda think about VPH but only for soundaholic...hmmmmmmmm
fair bobcat
https://preview.redd.it/3rmrgkeraoa81.png?width=484&format=png&auto=webp&s=a61e0...
i dont see arty?
x
green halo
building spec without shields, is a bit troll... unless you have a really good static it won't be that effective
snow wadi
i dont see arty?
blaster, probably
green halo
since you won't heal, you need shields at least
wicked juniper
wait, isnt swift the shield one and spec the heal one ?
green halo
no, spec is the buff one
wicked juniper
ohh
green halo
you charge gauge faster to buff with 3x
junior kettle
spec prefers to buff, but can drop 1bar heals very often anyways
green halo
yeah, you can heal, but normally they don't want to do so
wicked juniper
spec also should have shields but its cd will be comparatively MOAR right
green halo
yes, the uptime is lower
wicked juniper
junior kettle
my favorite spec bard build runs extreme meter gen and only guardian tune/rhapsody for shield
wicked juniper
i guess those buffers will be much happier in the future when they start showing those in MVPs as well
green halo
I normally see bards not using rhapsody for the full meter gen build, March generates a lot of gauge
shut junco
How do you guys know when to drop awakening on supports?
green halo
on Bard I use when the Judgement procs
radiant flame
yeee, doing last week brel g4 made me kinda think about VPH but only for soundah...
VPH is really good on bard imo. I run it in my 5x3. But I think your more major function is to survive and not die from damage
Especially in brel gates where there is a lot of damage during regular mechs
green halo
on Paladin after a Blessed Aura, or I hold it for some dmg mech that I consider dangerous (on Gate 4 Brel I hold it for when the cube uses meteors)
junior kettle
depends on the fight, but if there is nothing dangerous I use it whenever judgment procs for meter
if there are fights with dangerous mechs either in general or for the party, save awakening for those
shut junco
Oh right, with ancient accessories, which is the 3 and which is the 1 between vph and doe?
shut junco
depends on the fight, but if there is nothing dangerous I use it whenever judgme...
Judgement?
radiant flame
So I personally wouldn’t drop HA for VPH
junior kettle
conviction/judgment combo
radiant flame
If you die you can’t stagger quite frankly
shut junco
Ah, do supports use that?
green halo
Bard yes, Paladin normally not
faint pagoda
just go 5x3+1 gigachad support
shut junco
Neat. I guess I don't need to regret saving up for legendary judgement then
radiant flame
And for G4 you shouldn’t need VPH unless your raid is seriously short on stagger
green halo
yes
radiant flame
VPH is just super useful as the 5th engraving for sure
green halo
some Swiftness DPS builds use this to keep the uptime of the Dominion set
shut junco
Honestly I really need relic gear on my bard. The mana issues are so painful
wicked juniper
VPH is *really* good on bard imo. I run it in my 5x3. But I think your more majo...
xD ye i was thinking about 5x3 too but thats roughly 340k gold investment away 
For an alt, atm i dont have enuf resources. But yeh, VPH will be the 5th one for me.
Also, what about drop of ether ? compared to VPH as the 5th engrav
radiant flame
xD ye i was thinking about 5x3 too but thats roughly 340k gold investment away <...
Lots of debate. I personally think DoE is complete garbage
shut junco
Oh? Then what would you use as the +1?
green halo
I like DoE, but on my spec bard I use SA instead of it
shut junco
Assuming 9/7 or ancient, of course
snow wadi
Who gears supports past 4x3 anyway 🤷♂️
junior kettle
VPH will always be good if the bosses have a stagger mechanic, DoE is better in increasing damage, because it's maybe the only one that adds damage to the party situationally
shut junco
Who gears supports past 4x3 anyway 🤷♂️
Me
radiant flame
Often the ether is garbage. Often you pick it up yourself. Often DPS doesn’t pick it up. Often DPS runs to pick up and dies/misses DPS window
radiant flame
Oh? Then what would you use as the +1?
Max MP is the best on +1 and 2
green halo
DoE at 1 is a joke
shut junco
I refuse to use HA as anything less than 3
wicked juniper
Often the ether is garbage. Often you pick it up yourself. Often DPS doesn’t pic...
tru
shut junco
Max MP is the best on +1 and 2
Ah, good to know
snow wadi
Explosive Expert as +1 and start throwing Dark grenades
radiant flame
Because max MP is super useful on swiftness supps
green halo
Magick Stream
shut junco
I see, cool cool
radiant flame
(Like even more trash)
shut junco
I'll just be doing core 3 then HA and VPH then
And assuming I get to full ancient on her somehow I'll throw on max MP
snow wadi
just go explosive expert
shut junco
?
green halo
I like Magick Stream more
since you might get a bit more of cdr, besides the mana regen
shut junco
I have no clue what explosive expert does ngl
snow wadi
magick stream gives little to bards as you'll be faacetanking some mechanics
junior kettle
with c+j you probably won't run out of mana during raids anyways, just during guardians if you spam away
snow wadi
explosive expoert lets you use 1 more dark grenade
which is much better than some mana reg you dont need
quick lintel
sorry, another random question. i'm reading the daily checklist on the beginner guide and it says una tasks are capped at 3 dailies but that that can be increased to 6. is that just from the consumables i have a few of, or is there a permanent way of unlocking more daily slots for una tasks?
shut junco
And... what does dark grenade do...?
snow wadi
amplifiy party dmg
green halo
sorry, another random question. i'm reading the daily checklist on the beginner ...
just the consumable
that you can get during events
or on Mari Shop
shut junco
Anyways, I should have legendary judgement in the next day or two, so I'll be able to do that soon
quick lintel
just the consumable
figured, thanks for confirming 👍
shut junco
Which skills do c and j typically go onto?
flat dagger
For Bard?
green halo
Convic on Sonic Vibration, Judg on Sound Shock
lavish groveBOT
shut junco
Vibration is the big aoe skill right?
flat dagger
Yes.
green halo
this guide the Doctor proced is really good
lavish groveBOT
shut junco
Good, two skills I actually use then
green halo
and one thing that you might not know yet
shut junco
I was worried you were going to say oritorio or something lol
green halo
the Atk buff from Sonic Vibration doesn't stack with Heavenly Blessing
lavish groveBOT
shut junco
I mean, why would a pard and paladin be in the same party?
green halo
ooops
flat dagger
I believe he meant heavenly tune?
green halo
I meant Heavenly Tune xD
shut junco
Ah
flat dagger
And in case any Bard players here didn't know, stop putting Sonic Vibration under the boss where we can't stand.
shut junco
So it's just about buff uptime then?
shut junco
Got it
Good to know, ty
Is c+j enough for mana issues or does relic help with that as well?
flat dagger
Heavenly Tune is really good for stagger checks, since it lets others get theirs off.
flat dagger
Is c+j enough for mana issues or does relic help with that as well?
Relic helps 0 with mana, you need C+J and even then you can run out if you spam too much or don't have focus runes.
shut junco
I'm honestly not sure which relic set bard uses so I have no clue on that lol
flat dagger
Yearning, as do all support.
snow wadi
Yearning 100%
green halo
yeah, this is one thing I like of the Spec bard, with bigger cooldowns you spend less mana xD
radiant flame
yeah, this is one thing I like of the Spec bard, with bigger cooldowns you spend...
Please don’t
flat dagger
Mana isn't an issue normally if you have any idea what you're doing.
radiant flame
Spec bard is literally trash
You don’t spend mana because you don’t even have ATK buff uptime
green halo
it's trash if the dps are bad
flat dagger
Less damage buff uptime + less shields and heals.
shut junco
What does yearning even do?
green halo
you opinion, I like it much more than the swiftness build
radiant flame
It’s “good” in niche cases where you want to coordinate burst in a very specific way
flat dagger
What does yearning even do?
radiant flame
This is literally not opinion. I am telling you for a fact that you cannot maintain your normal attack buff from heavenly tune and SV
As a spec bard
junior kettle
for me it's always:
in a pug I prefer swift bard
in a static I prefer spec bard
shut junco
Oh, hell yeah. meter gen is great
green halo
if you need to keep healing because people are bad, its bad because it won't use Serenade of Courage
shut junco
Do the 4 piece and 6 piece effect also affect you or is it just the rest of your party?
snow wadi
This is literally not opinion. I am telling you for a fact that you *cannot* mai...
And you can still increase your overall party dmg in some, minor, cases.
radiant flame
if you need to keep healing because people are bad, its bad because it won't use...
It’s not about healing
flat dagger
Do the 4 piece and 6 piece effect also affect you or is it just the rest of your...
Only others.
shut junco
Ah, okay
snow wadi
Spec Pala is trash, spec bard isnt
green halo
but if you can play is it should, the buff from Serenade of Courage is enough to compensate a lot for a little bit of lost buff uptime
cloud pendant
Maintenance finishing in 40 mins?
radiant flame
I don’t generally heal on bard
hallow relic
lol spec pally is trash but its stupid fun to play
its like even worse than spec bard
green halo
if you wanna talk about buff uptime just play paladin
shut junco
Honestly the main reason why I don't think I could go off of swift bard is due to shield and rhapsody uptime
green halo
Sonic Vibration isn't a good skill for buff uptime
flat dagger
Yes it is?
green halo
almost always, only 1, max 2 dps will stay in it until it ends
radiant flame
The courage buff is not even significant unless you coordinate with specific classes like igniter
radiant flame
almost always, only 1, max 2 dps will stay in it until it ends
But that makes spec bard even worse in that respect lol
snow wadi
but that's the valid point of spec bards - in a fixed group with fixed bursts
radiant flame
Anyway I’m just telling you some facts. You can ask in #bard and they will tell you the same thing
green halo
if you use it in any good time, it doesn't depend on coordination with a burst class
sick thunder
are the servers up ?
lavish groveBOT
are the servers up ?
Yes, the servers for the hit MMORPG The Elder Scrolls Online are indeed up!
snow wadi
sick thunder
epic
radiant flame
if you use it in any good time, it doesn't depend on coordination with a burst c...
I mean
Idk man. I think you heavily overestimate how much better the courage is on a spec bard
snow wadi
if you use it in any good time, it doesn't depend on coordination with a burst c...
well spec bard for non-burst classes is indeed worse than swift bard
green halo
if you know the fight, you'll buff when you know people can deal dps, not when a mage is telling you that they have ignite
shut junco
Idk, spec bard seems not great to me. Protection skill uptime means that you need to use fewer heals so you can use more atk buffs
snow wadi
if you know the fight, you'll buff when you know people can deal dps, not when a...
so when do u buff a reflux?
reflux will hopefully always be dpsing
reflux would gain more from higher default buff uptime
radiant flame
Anyway this is o/t. You’re obviously not going to change your mind.
snow wadi
reflux couldnt bother your serenade of courage
green halo
Idk man. I think you heavily overestimate how much better the courage is on a sp...
and I think you underestimate it xD
snow wadi
an igniter does
radiant flame
and I think you underestimate it xD
? I don’t
shut junco
It also helps that my primary dps experience is playing gunslinger, who is literally always dpsing
radiant flame
I know it’s something like +8% or something on a spec bard
radiant flame
Sorry +9% approximately
green halo
+8% on 3 dps for 15 seconds is a lot, lol
radiant flame
+8% on 3 dps for 15 seconds is a lot, lol
Yes. But you lose your constant ATK buff which is more than that
hallow relic
i think all that matters is that you enjoy spec bard, but swift is generally better unless u got a fixed group
green halo
and it's not like the spec bard will buff the same number of times than the swiftness bard, it recharges gauge much faster
radiant flame
and it's not like the spec bard will buff the same number of times than the swif...
It doesn’t
It charges gauge approximately the same
Because swift bard has more cool-down
So can hit gauge skills more regularly
green halo
swift is better with randoms because you might get on a bad group and need to shield/heal constantly, not because of damage uptime or anything else
radiant flame
If you think a “good” group doesn’t get hit at all I don’t think you can have done any real raids in this game
green halo
Because swift bard has more cool-down
I guess you didn't test in trixion then, if it charges approximately at the same time to you, when I was testing I was saving at least 10 seconds to charge 3 bars depending on the builds, normally more
radiant flame
I guess you didn't test in trixion then, if it charges approximately at the same...
10 seconds less to charge 3 bars in trixion
green halo
it's not about not getting hit at all, the spec bard shields as well, the shield just don't have an almost 100% uptime like the swift build
green halo
10 seconds less to charge 3 bars in *trixion*
exactly, on a fight it's even bigger the differente
radiant flame
Anyway, as I said. You are literally preaching against the general guide and the general opinion of the bard community
green halo
like how burst classes normally do more damage than swift builds
due to a bigger uptime necessary on these builds
during raids
snow wadi
Agree to disagree
green halo
not yet because only my main reached g6 for now, but it's as laughable as any dps having a weapon bigger than +21, if you're saying having damage is laughable...
because even with people with old weapon +20 you still need to hold dps xD
if everybody is alive, at least
junior kettle
brel g6 is a lot of a waiting game, it doesn't really matter much since a spec bard can spam 1 bars and swift bard just spams heal in g6
flat dagger
Please go to #bard or #lost-ark-discussions for this.
radiant flame
Ugh just frustrating because i just don’t think it’s helpful to tell people spec bard is okay if people are starting out because it’s not a beginner friendly or generally useful build
Whatever
green halo
indeed
shut junco
I mean, spec bard is just worse uptime on literally everything, while having slightly higher atk buffs, is that what I'm getting on this conversation?
green halo
I agree with it not being a beginner friendly build
radiant flame
I mean, spec bard is just worse uptime on literally everything, while having sli...
Higher attack buffs on identity
subtle helm
I mean, spec bard is just worse uptime on literally everything, while having sli...
And like 3 times cheaper
radiant flame
You lose overall attack buffs
shut junco
So you're giving up all of your supportive capabilities in exchange for your dps' having slightly higher numbers sometimes
radiant flame
Because it is impossible to have 100% uptime in your regular attack buffs
green halo
it has less uptime, but you can say it has a higher ceiling in case you time your buffs well
shut junco
It just sounds like you're enabling lower damage per rotation for your dps' to me
subtle helm
Feels disingenuous talking about beginner friendliness and not mention how swift 5x3 bard is one of the most expensive builds in the game but that’s just my 2c
green halo
personally, I like to play with spec bard more, but if I need a support, it doesn't really matter which one I get
radiant flame
So you're giving up all of your supportive capabilities in exchange for your dps...
Correct. In a burst scenario there is no higher damage buffer than a spec bard.
shut junco
Feels disingenuous talking about beginner friendliness and not mention how swift...
I mean... who... goes for a 5x3 on bard...?
green halo
and I built mine as spec as well
radiant flame
Feels disingenuous talking about beginner friendliness and not mention how swift...
But you don’t need 5x3
shut junco
For new players 3x3 is more than enough
subtle helm
I mean... who... goes for a 5x3 on bard...?
I do 
shut junco
4x3 up to brel
hallow relic
i mean the guy likes spec bard the argument should be shut and done
no point telling em to go swift if they dont like it
shut junco
So if you are in the position to be able to 5x3 for her then that point is irrelevant
hallow relic
but on the other hand ur info is kinda fked dude, spec is kinda shet sometimes
green halo
all my characters are 5x3, including my Bard and Paladin xD
shut junco
no point telling em to go swift if they dont like it
I mean, it's kind of griefing their teammates isn't it?
hallow relic
and? where u going to get another support
regardless its fine, man likes spec just play it
shut junco
Ig
subtle helm
I mean, it's kind of griefing their teammates isn't it?
Double standards to say spec is griefing and then argue for anything dps that is not tip top meta.
If mayhem zerkers want pf finder equality they should put up with spec bards
shut junco
Eh, I'm like this in every game I play. I advocate for people to play whatever character they want, but I always push those characters to be as good as they can be
subtle helm
Two different discussions imo. Beginners get suggested 3x3 swift bard. Vets should play whatever the fk they want
hallow relic
great take
green halo
with the balance patch the cooldown of Salvation won't be a problem for the spec build anymore 🙂
shut junco
I mean, what does the math support? If the math flat out says that spec bard is better then sure, whatever. But all I've heard and all the math I've seen supports swift bard
subtle helm
Yes but this is a video game, not a spreadsheet exercise
shut junco
Every game is a spreadsheet exercise
shut junco
Lmao
I have theorycrafter brain, I'm sorry
Haven't quite gotten to that point in this game yet, but I'm like that in a lot of the games I play
green halo
if you check the community guide at the end, it says everything that you need to know to compare the builds, actually xD
shut junco
Honestly the only character I play where I think spec bard would be preferred would be my gunlancer. Self protection means healing/shielding is less relevant, and all of my damage is in two and a half skills that are used at the same time
green halo
since you like theorycraft, I recommend checking these community guides for the classes you like
they're all really good
lavish groveBOT
shut junco
So a party with like... gunlancer and igniter sorc would be dope with a spec bard
But overall I just can't see how the complete lack of actual supportive capability is outmatched by slightly higher damage buffs for a much shorter period of time
I do, however, see why it would be a good idea to have access to both builds, just in case you wind up in a party like I said with a gl and igniter
green halo
it's not a lack of supportive capability... as it says in the guide
"There are still plenty of ways Spec Bard can protect her teammates even if there is downtime of shielding. Remember, Spec Bard has less protection than Swift Bard, but has protection nonetheless."
shut junco
I did read it, but that's still a lot less than swift bard
shut junco
I agree, just have swift bard, ez
green halo
in any composition
maiden locust
Spec bard only has an extra 7% damage increase added to serenade of courage while swift bard always has heavenly tune or sonic vibration up which is like a 21% damage increase swift bard also has the added benefit of having shields up almost all the time spec bard is honestly also a budget build it is dirt cheap to make it.
green halo
just because there isn't a igniter or other burst classes on your party, doesn't mean that your buffs won't be good
maiden locust
Just play what ever build you find fun
shut junco
Ngl, like I said earlier I primarily play gunslinger, and I would absolutely hate it if my support in my team was a spec bard
maiden locust
who cares what ppl think
green halo
Spec bard only has an extra 7% damage increase added to serenade of courage whil...
If building Swift support is cheaper than Spec support in your server, your server is different than mine xD
shut junco
Gunslinger is constant dps uptime, that's the point of playing the class is that you constantly have dps skills up and can attack from anywhere at any range
maiden locust
Spec bard is a budget build
shut junco
So having buffs for like a quarter of my dps sounds awful
green halo
I play Energy Overflow, it's not that burst oriented as well
cloud pendant
Is server back up in 7 mins?
green halo
Spec bard is a budget build
yeah, I got confused with what you said
snow wadi
Is server back up in 7 mins?
Unless they extend
green halo
Is server back up in 7 mins?
hopefully 🙌
flat dagger
Is server back up in 7 mins?
Maybe yes.
tulip prawn
what's the google doc for searching kr gameplay of specific class and raid w/gate?
maiden locust
Both builds are good so choose what ever fits your playstyle in my opinion as long as youre having fun that is all that matters
snow wadi
Go Endurance bard with HA and blame all the dps for not potting
maiden locust
lol
shut junco
Exact opposite of babysitter pov
green halo
I see many gunslingers that don't even bother to stay close to the bard, how you'll have a good shield uptime if the person not even stays somewhere to get shielded xD
quaint isle
striker or scrapper in pve ?
maiden locust
Both are good
shut junco
Sounds like cringe gunslingers then
I'm stapled to my bard personally
Buffs are good
maiden locust
I like scrapper because she thicc 👀
hallow relic
striker or scrapper in pve ?
boobs or no boobs also playstyle please
shut junco
Which classes have an 18% crit synergy btw?
snow wadi
green halo
Striker, but you don't really take it into consideration
shut junco
I know it's a thing but can never remember which
quaint isle
boobs or no boobs also playstyle please
I want high damage movement fun
green halo
really small uptime of the buff
snow wadi
hallow relic
I want high damage movement fun
so burst? or constant?
maiden locust
@quaint isle wardancer?
shut junco
I love that gunlancer awakening is listed there lol
green halo
both have slow builds for burst (Striker Deathblow or Shock Scrapper)
quaint isle
so it would be nicer to always take high damage constant
shut junco
That's glavier, scrapper and wardancer right?
green halo
particularly, for the more mobile build, I like Taijutsu Scrapper more than Esoteric Striker
snow wadi
I love that gunlancer awakening is listed there lol
I always tell people to go swift gunlancer with yearning and awakening + expert
hallow relic
so it would be nicer to always take high damage constant
prob taijutsu scrapper but eso is good but i think is harder
maiden locust
Taijutsu scrapper is also very easy to solo prokel on too
shut junco
I always tell people to go swift gunlancer with yearning and awakening + expert
That is perfect lmao
hallow relic
more important question u didnt answer is boobs or no boobs
shut junco
Does swiftness affect awakening cd?
green halo
yes
quaint isle
so what do you think about zerk, which can be among scrapper zerk, everybody prefers zerk generally
snow wadi
so what do you think about zerk, which can be among scrapper zerk, everybody pre...
lots of people hate zerk because some zerk players tend to floorpov
subtle helm
I always tell people to go swift gunlancer with yearning and awakening + expert
I unironically play a 6 dominion blue GL with awakening
shut junco
Does... anyone prefer zerkers?
hallow relic
ppl hate zerks here
green halo
I don't like zerk, if you want something fast I don't recommend it
shut junco
Zerkers committing game end during Vykas swamps
green halo
it has really long animations in general (might improve with balance patch, but will still not be a fast paced character)
frosty sundial
Is maintenance done?
quaint isle
As far as I heard, there will be a male scrapper class, what kind of an idea do you think I should save my savings for him, I'm at the level of 1460 right now, plus I have a lot of press supplies and gold?
shut junco
Why not just play scrapper...?
round umbra
bro we aint getting that scrapper for another year at least
its not even close to being released in kr yet
frosty sundial
Why not just play scrapper...?
Bc boys rule girls drool
shut junco
I really don't get why people play the male and female versions of the same class. Having a gunslinger and a deadeye(I think that's the right one, not totally sure) sounds like a great way to play the same class twice while also wasting like 200k on another set of books
quaint isle
Why not just play scrapper...?
why are you angry my friend i want to get your opinion
flat dagger
Deadeye and Gunslinger doesn't play the same way though.
green halo
the gameplay is really different... be it Deadeye x Gunslinger, or Wardancer x Striker
hallow relic
even more so with de and gs
green halo
it has the same weapons
but the way you play it changes a lot with the Crass Engraving and the different tripods
shut junco
Are they? I just know that they both have dextrous shot so I assumed it was the same
flat dagger
They have some skills in common, but that's about it.
frosty sundial
Wait is there no patches note yet for this update? Cuz my steam made me do a update
green halo
Wait is there no patches note yet for this update? Cuz my steam made me do a upd...
there is nothing being implemented with this update, just maintenance
maybe something minor to try to help with dcs
subtle helm
took the full 4 hours so probably some preloading of next content patch
green halo
indeed
frosty sundial
Oh ok
green halo
next week will be the Witcher o/
green halo
Are they? I just know that they both have dextrous shot so I assumed it was the ...
yes, Deadeye is a back attack class for the Enchanted Weapon Engraving, for example
shut junco
Interesting
So what I'm hearing is
I could have had 6 unique gun using classes
Now I'm sad
flat dagger
Did you really think that it was just a gender difference?
shut junco
Yes
round umbra
one is hitmaster
other one is back attack
2 completely different playstyles
deadeye
male gunslinger
snow wadi
Anyone done some math on the new pirate ship mats? blue still worth buying?
shut junco
Deadeye isn't real he can't hurt you
subtle helm
boo
green halo
Anyone done some math on the new pirate ship mats? blue still worth buying?
I didn't, normally I only buy shards
snow wadi
Oh true
snow wadi
I'd take a wild guess and say because noone actively does alot of t2 stuff
but just a wild guess
round umbra
well theres 84k on the market
shut junco
paying through t2 is miserable man
round umbra
more than t3 and t1
hallow relic
lol man it wasnt, it was like 20k in total
round umbra
paying through t2 is fine now
hallow relic
leaps went up alot during summoners release
round umbra
used to be miserable
last wolf
to charge someone for a bus through gem
we first list gem
then put it up on auction house right
cant list while its on AH?
brazen zodiac
You mean post in chat as opposed to list?
last wolf
yeah to tell them what gem
cos we can shift right click while its in inventory
but cant do that while its already on AH right
rose jewel
mhm
frosty sundial
I wish they had a quest tracker for quests u have not started so u know what else u gotta do
rose jewel
first tell what's it gonna be, then list it, listing a gem should take 10 seconds
frosty sundial
Hi signum
rose jewel
while they look for it on the advanced search, you already listed it
hello
i guess you can just look at continents and look for yellow/purple quests
would be good but i think the list would be massive
frosty sundial
i guess you can just look at continents and look for yellow/purple quests
Thats what i do but its just annoying to have to manually go to each place
rose jewel
then what's the point of exploring
or at least i think that
mmo's are all about that, getting lost and finding things
timber elk
walmart is mmo, can confirm
frosty sundial
Lmao
rose jewel
i cant go against that logic
frosty sundial
Signum who can i ping to fix the bot for shandi merchant? So it can reset itself cuz it has all the old info
flat dagger
Sounds like a #request-a-mod issue.
rose jewel
if its on this discord, what orchan said
frosty sundial
Thank u
flat dagger
With 6x characters at 5x3 + full Lv. 7 Gems and all 1475+, what's the best thing I could spend my gold on?
tawdry snow
charity, a seventh char...
rose jewel
hi my name is charity, i would like some gold
frosty sundial
^
flat dagger
I'm being serious though.
hardy glacier
With 6x characters at 5x3 + full Lv. 7 Gems and all 1475+, what's the best thing...
making alts for lopang imo, if not try to get the other class builds for your chars if they get a buff.
radiant flame
With 6x characters at 5x3 + full Lv. 7 Gems and all 1475+, what's the best thing...
Honestly, I think it’s also worth considering where you want to gear to for brel hard and further on
rose jewel
lv9+ gems on main
radiant flame
The honing costs are no joke
rose jewel
gems are a huge powerspike when at lv9, even more so at 10
flat dagger
Honestly, I think it’s also worth considering where you want to gear to for brel...
I've been honing the Brelshaza items to +16.
subtle helm
Bracelets, weapon quality, 9/7 gambling, alternate builds, 7th + characters for lopang, card packs from mari
radiant flame
A friend spent a lot of raw gold honing weapon to +18
I think above +16 it does become quite a lot more expensive
green halo
Orchan, I have a rooster of 9 characters 1475+
rose jewel
16>17 goes down to 3 no?
flat dagger
The brackets are 15+16 / 17+18 / 19+20 so yea.
green halo
right now I'm focusing on getting the lest two to Brel Gate 1-2
radiant flame
Maybe just have a look, but yeah gems is my other suggestion
green halo
after that I'll finish buying all the class engravings
for the ones that I don't have
hallow relic
gems, otherwise ur just pissing out gold like the rest of us making +7 alts higher
flat dagger
So generally honing and Lv. 9 gems if I can buy them.
radiant flame
And finally…I dunno some bracelet gamba 🙂
Im seriously considering it on my bard where I’ve not managed to roll dagger or weakness at all 😦
green halo
after the class engravings, I might start to save gold for Level 10 Gems, or future ancient builds
rose jewel
my bard is good with just spec+swift honestly
radiant flame
Dagger/expose is so good though
rose jewel
i've yet to make it to 1-6 on my main
so i have more things i should take care of first
also i want my pali for 1-2 somewhere in the future, before artist comes
subtle helm
in all honestly 5/6 is not a great use of time if you're actually trying to min max your time efficiency
radiant flame
in all honestly 5/6 is not a great use of time if you're actually trying to min ...
Most raids aren’t tbh
flat dagger
It's required for Ignea too.
rose jewel
if i have no time later i can just 1-4 like usual
hallow relic
get the horns to flex and wait for hm for bigger horns to flex on the smol ones
rose jewel
also that
radiant flame
It’s getting the brel mats quicker, and also getting the title for easier pug groups
rose jewel
imagine i have to pug somewhere in the future and i have no exp
and the sooner i have my baby ready for hm the sooner i can start honing bard
radiant flame
And tbh, once you’ve done g5/6, they’re not difficult with an experienced group
wispy scaffold
quick question, is there a trade channel in this discord?
radiant flame
quick question, is there a trade channel in this discord?
No
wispy scaffold
Ok thanks
flat dagger
@rose jewel When you said Lv. 9 gems, I assume you mean DMG ones.
green halo
are you a peacemaker gunslinger?
flat dagger
Of course
rose jewel
disgusting
yeah dmg, unless your class requires lv8 or 9 for a rotation
like igniter, she wants a lv8 cd no? idk
flat dagger
Nah, that'd just be Igniter for Doomsday.
I've got a Lv. 7 currently and can sometimes get 2x even with that.
rose jewel
but yeah higher cd means more rotations meaning more damage, but i guess dmg takes priority?
subtle helm
lvl 9 cd on target down for my TTH, because why not
green halo
I've asked because TTH Swiftness doesn't really need it
but for the other builds, cooldown gems are really good as well
rose jewel
non massive stacked swift chars + cd red gems on higher lv = massive keyboard mashing
flat dagger
7-8-9-10 are all linearly the same CD right?
flat dagger
I can just make use of the CDs I get while going for Lv. 9.
maiden locust
hey guys just wanted to ask if the servers are up
flat dagger
Yes.
hallow relic
ur late my guy
flat dagger
Issue on your end.
subtle helm
banned
maiden locust
banned <:KEKDog:1017277642833154128>
👍
rose jewel
you can always... what was the command
lavish groveBOT
flat dagger
/Serverstatus
rose jewel
ezclap
flat dagger
NA servers taking longer this time? That's a first.