#lost-ark-help
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so arty with wheelchair mode sounds close
Its cool how the nvidia filters let the game more beautiful
is auction house and market down again for anyone? endless refreshing doesnt solve it
need help finding destroyer builds
Maxroll or #destoryer #navigation
anyone getting stuck in infinite load screens, particularly going into guardians?
No
No
have seen a few and i only did 4 guardians
all but 1 had a dc from the start or during
where ever my circle is, i am there as well š
do u corro after stagger or before on tortle
you corro as soon as you engage the boss with the rest of the team
why does lost ark take 10000 years to boot up?
easy anticheat
anyway to speed up the process?
if the boss opens up with stagger do i still corro then?
Watch anime on your second monitor to pass the time.
the boss always starts with stagger, that doesnt matter, kunge needs his shell broken for you to deal damage
gotcha
Does that not answering is new ? happened two times since last week on loading
not really new but not many people has that problem, cant help much there
i can just recommend the usual, verify game files
I played the entire day and was working fine
Now i try to join the challenge abyss and it happens
It just happened again.. stuck on loading
I did that like last week same content.
new patch new problems, try the verify
I've tried but nothing happened
Like i joined in feiton where i was before, but when i tried to get in that dungeon i got stucked again
Also lost the rewards
Because people might have completed that
I guess im screwed cause they arent giving my entry back
Yeah Iāve been getting this issue two patches ago too I think you just have to close and restart the entire game itās super annoying
Even then it doesnāt prevent you from getting locked again once you boot up
entry ticket refunds aren't instant anyway, wait a day or two or something
First time i got instant
This time i logged in Dungeon and got send out. I think they arent giving back
Me too its exactly two patches. Not sure If i should update my drivers..
But im really sad lol
Its painfull lose stuff like that
Pretty sure itās the game and not our computers.. It only started with the patch and I have a new computer
Did u tried to update drivers since the patch ?
Yes I still had it happen.. two days ago? I think?
But yeah, just have to keep our fingers crossed they fix that and the d/cs 
can i get a price check for NAE? 
ctrl + right click > search market
anyone know how long it takes to get 6pc brul gear? is there some kind of chart or whatever? ty in advance
work it out from that. you need 300 horns total
i doubt many people will be running g1-g6 on all characters every week, so it depends on how you plan to run it
if i have one of the skill tree items that has 2 engravings can i transfer both or no
you mean two tripods?
yea
you can't. you have to pick one
kk ty
does sailing dispatch boss rush give the same amount of gems as doing it normally?
dispatch gives, by far, way less rewards compared to running manual, never dispatch boss rush
Thank you, what about 11-12
For guardians, dispatch gives roughly 50-60% of normal rewards
So I'd expect something similar for bosh rush
u can just ask ur bank to chargeback
I'm fairly confident that when you purchase loa stuff on steam you click a confirmation button to specifically confirm you cannot refund it
ye u probably cant get refund the legit way
One exception... Cube is cancer, and IIRC it gives either Gold or Platinum for dispatch
And disputing payments/ requesting chargebacks is a quickfire way to get your steam account banned

Guys. I see some players have total black skin in the game. Where can I get that? Is that limited?
Thatās god tier
You can inspect them to see what skin they're wearing
Thatās likely the current blue crystal skin. You can convert gold to blue and purchase it
Also check the shop to verify I forget the name
most skins can by dyed black
I see ok thanks
Is there a link to a build planner somewhere?
This is what I use: https://loa-todo.com/engrave
hiiiii ,is anyone from EUC and can help me out with argos? came back 3 days ago and no one accepts me in their lobby š¦
check out #eu-central-region-chat and what does your char look like?
welp its a 1370 sorc igniter dont have 3x3 i just got her here this morning
I mean at worst go get a bus š¤
done oreha hardmode already? could try to get some gear beforehand
i dont think i can cause i did normal yesterday
Looks like a bus time
If its an alt you can try and find a group to carry for carry argos
yeah problem is my main is 1400 came back after 7ish months
Argos bus is only 500g, go get bus 
yeah i will ! thanks guys ā¤ļø
there were no blessed aura 3 + 5 supp engraving + swift/spec necklaces on the market or in recent sales, that's why i'm asking
That idk most Koreans transfer a +20 to brel relic cuz its prolly better for them to do all +20 instead of doing cheese. if it's similar to lower relic, its probably cost either 12 same as 12>13 or 8. Btw +20 armor still costs 16 fused same as 13>19. weapon 12>13 costs 30 and 13>20 costs 40
after buying DI +12 books, which other book would you recommend to buy for SH building: di/grudge/adrenaline/kbw/raid capt
If your answer is grudge (16k in EUC), what would your second option be?
kbw which should be the next expensive
The option should be whatever is most used by your alts
grudge is most expensive but you gonna use it for all your alts
not all classes use kbw or most other engravings there is a reason grudge is so expensive
It's for my friend who has a roster of 3x SH. So other classes don't matter so much, no plans to go 5x3 on them for now
can go kbw then 
can i change the sale price?
you can but think about it for a second
that is for buying gold, not selling it
whats going on?
Then you don't need any +12 books 
Do we run abyss dungeons for los cards?
yes if u want to increase ur odds of getting cards quicker
Okay. Also, is there any point of doing argos on high gs chars for anything specific or just for potential leg books?
argos gives cards, potential legendary book loot or auction book loot = gold, and bound leapstones if u just destroy the argos bloods, and typically only takes like 10 or less minutes to clear so its pretty good to do. I still do on my 1490 chars
Okay thanks
does the pirate generation card set affect dmg against tooki?
Yes
Since they are 'lucky monster' full set and you only need to hit twice or thrice and they are dead
even tooki king right
Guys, anyone know why a legendary pet doesnt show up as legendary anymore. Its glow is gone ?
Yea
You re-skinned it to a non-legendary one?
What does tooki give ? Is there a una quest for it ?
No. I havent some anything
yes
How can I get more pirate coins ?
Voyage Co op, adventure island
How do I even see if the pet is legendary anymore š¦
No it's the only leopard I have. It's been legendary for 2 weeks now . Let me try a different pet
My little kakul is my legendary spec pet and leopard is legendary swift pet
we can reroll relic wepaon right ?
Reroll it? 
i mean dismantle it and recraft
Yes, but there is no reason to. And you'll lose the 3 stones of chaos.
i got 3 quality
Go upgrade the quality then.
It's also more expensive to do 
I dont know. I failed like 6 upgrades in a row on one toon lol
Crafting a new one is more expensive than quality upgrade..
How do I get acsses to thronespire I know I need to complete the quest towards power but I donāt see it on my guide tab
whats this crown under the character mean? just the highest lvl?
Main character.
how do i transfer that to my reaper?
Look on the left.
ah see it ty ty
also im returnin to LA so i kinda forgot some stuff but when i hit 1325 i do the next chaos dungeon and gear transfer onto the purple gear right?
You can skip epic entirely. But yes, do the chaos dungeons.
how?
Not really necessary anymore since honing buff to 1370 is fast
Just don't transfer into the epic gear?
ah ok kl
You just opt to wait for legendary gear
kl kl ty ty
Maybe equip some engravings
Nah 
That was sarcasm
oh i just made this reaper yesterday so forgot all tht stuff. will do
Man I'm sad I started lost ark like a month back and enjoyed the story and wanted to see how armins story ends and I completed south vern earlier this week and don't know what to do anymore
How long till I find out what happens š
Post-Raid quests @wet dagger.
can watch spoilers from kr or wait probably like a year
update: got a 95 stone after 12 more attempt, i can die now
how i can change the mouse setting? its locked
What kind of mouse setting? š¤Ø
thanks alot 
are you able to transfer guild lead?
what are the most efficient ways to make gold?
una and raids
yes not sure how but itās possible
una's is it per rostar or alts?
per roster
aha, many thanks š©
Road to rohandell from maxroll still the fastest way?
is platinum the highest reward for cube dispatch?
When does the questing finally end? Been playing this game for over a month now and itās becoming increasingly difficult to log in to run around questing next to a sea of bots.
when is the weekly reset?
Should be fast that way yes. Honing costs are massively reduced but this way will get you shards very quickly.
What are these for?
Well I'm new and used powepass
PvP
My continent thing says Iām shushire I think? I donāt like the class Iām playing anymore but someone told me to get to Punikas for a pass? But geez I canāt take this questing anymore
So I'm guessing just follow the guide
Should I put some on Legion Raid?
equalized content
A month? What are you āquestingā for?
To get the punikas power pass?
proving grounds = equalized pvp
trial guardian = equalized guardian
legion raid = inferno difficulty raids
Yes sure. The guide just tells you to go to islands which have honing materials as rewards
Thatās all it is. So yes you should do them as long as you still need the honing materials
Just need to do the main quests until Punika then, not everything else.
Just to reach t3? It shouldnāt take you a month. But yeah, once you get there the quest is pretty much done
Each continent's main quest takes 2-3 hours to complete.
I have been and this is taking forever. Other people did this? Iām finding it very difficult to log in these days.
I almost fell asleep doing the main quests so goodluck..
Wednesday morning
Wow so Iām still over 12 hours away?? Geeeeez this game is painful to get to end game
How many hours do you have in that 1 month? š¤Ø
Because it doesn't take the average player more than 1-2 weeks.
I mean you can just buy the powerpass if you want to get there
F that. Then the nazis win.
But yeah, confused as to why you have played a month and are still stuck what, at t1?
Well that's a block from me.
Hi, Where can I ask for guild join for Legion raids?
its so hard to get into as a new player just in parties
Go to roles, look for your region and server, and look at guild channels
role-assignment?
Otherwise, I suggest making sure your build is good and standard, and joining learning parties if you are starting
Maybe. I still see a few on EUC
Good luck!
Also suggest getting a support alt asap
As thatās the easiest way to get invited to pug raids, tbh
Where can I unlock the training at the SH?
Have a guess š
This one. Where to unlock amazing technology?
stronghold level 23 or something, and have a character at least lvl 52
Yea I have both but doesnāt unlock
guide quest?
Itās a quest in stronghold I think, from the main person?
No, as with all SH stuff, it's a SH quest. AKA stop skipping quests.
look at the quest around the SH
In front of manor?
Yes found it thanks
Can you only do this road to rohandell once per roster??
island quests are almost always, if not always, once per roster
they are once per roster yes
when ark pass ends?
Is deathblade weak? I made a deathblade and she is 1302 ilvl should I get her to 1370 or
She feels weak compared to my sorc
You haven't geared her, any class feels weak without gems, tripods, relic gear etc
no shes one of the stronger classes
I chose surge ,is that good ?
back attacker needs entropy for a massive dmg boost
Both builds are good
both r good
What should i focus on when getting accesories ? Crit and spec right
Spec, crit only on necklace
surge is burst dps and re is consistent dps
Is there a guide somewhere for classes ? Ive been searching but didnt find smth for noobs like me
Pins in #deathblade
Maxroll is a good starting point as well
Thx alot
Hello, Lost ark is taking a lot of time to turn on, I usually have to retry lot of times. does anybody know why is this happening?
Itās taking long to turn on for everyone. Itās due to EAC
I asked my friend if he also experiences this, but he said he does not.
maybe he got a really strong computer so itās not that long. But for most people the game take some minutes to launch
I see. That'd make sense since my PC is kind of old, thank you for helping out
Lv. 1 Judgment seems to be a good option for keeping Blessed Aura up.
vital point hit is also pretty good
Not with VPH, it's fine then.
But you need to know what you're doing and use whirlwind grenades.
Don't bother with legendary accessories.
The amount of stats you get from relic is tons, and they are cheap for a 4x3 setup.
the use case is any raid because it helps with the natural stagger
The necklace alone is +50 for one stat, so that's not true at all.
Oh, legendary rings 
You can run them until 5x3, if you don't find any cheap relic ones.
3/3 or 3/4 rings tend to be cheap even with a class engraving. But that depends on what you pair the engraving with.
yes
I'm 5x3 Bard at 1490 yes.

It was only ~60k for the accessories too.
donāt be that guy who tag support being 3x3 please 
what ilvl is your pal ?
tbh if a pal tag on Valtan hard with 3x3 I decline and I believe a lot of people start doing the same now
isok yea 4x3 is going to be fine for a long time
damn and im the one who feels ashamed of being paladin main 1447 with 3x3 
There's no point in just going 3x3 relic, get 4x3 and upgrade once you hit 1490 if ever.
since people are desperate for supports these days
I ran 3x3 until 1475, then went to 5x3 and pushed to 1490. Bard's an alt too.
But to get all the gold, 6x 1460+ helps a ton.
3x3 is absolutely fine for supports
90% of a supports power comes from their kit, after their class engraving and awakening, engravings do very little
having the right stat allocation and high swiftness and being 3x3 is infinitely better than having bad swiftness and being 5x3
Very.
maybe Itās fine for you
got nothing to do with being fine for me
compared to dps, engravings do fuck-all for supports
1460 before even 1415
Or get alts to 1485 at highest.
unless you have shitton of money you can't do 4x3 once u hit 1445. and people refusing to let a 3x3 enter is like literally locking us out so we can't get gold to PURCHASE the accs to do 4x3 xD
then you obviously have no idea how supports work
what ? 4x3 isnāt expensive
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100%, and any alts to 1385 max before that. You want the SH honing buffs.
yeah currently pushing 2 of my alts to 1400 to help with gold generation xd
ofc engraving have way less impact as support. But being 4x3 cost nothing and itās worth this difference even if itās smaller
well, im still gonna gatekeep ungeared supports maybe im just a jerk
Are you sure? for my paladin (atleast) each accessory costs about 4-5k and im talking about earrings/rings not even necklace and not mentioning ability stones/books
same 
you can 4x3 for like 20k these day if you process well
i mean, you do you
but that 4th engraving does nothing to make your raid any easier/faster
you're "gatekeeping" just cos you're mad you have to pay more, but thats your own issue you need to work through
4th engraving does nothing, got it! Lemme just go tell the world engravings are useless on supports!
nothing to do about being mad, I have 3 bards. I just donāt wanna play with people who donāt will to invest to make the raid even 3% easier at a low cost
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please explain to me how a paladin with vph makes your valtan run easier
It depends of the class and the engraving. It can be to 5k gold to 100k idk
You reach stagger faster
thistbh
the recommended 4th engraving for pala is vital hit point or drops of ether. doesn't actually give any recognizable benefits . I mean for valtan you probably do wei anyways and if not u still manage to do it with bombs and my skillset for supp pala doesn't have that "much" stagger skills to increase anyway
its not much, it mainly depends on ur qualities ur trying to get
explain to me why u choose a engraving that is completely useless on valtan? what if it was a paladin with skittles?
anyways. do you guys know why people do night fox yoho more than veleganos?
velganos is just a pain
true
Because most people canāt pass velga 
so most people just do yoho
oh, so vph is a bad engraving on supports?
so you'd deny 4x3 supports if they dont have drops of ether now?
? I said u chose a very specific case where it wouldnt help much.
Velganos is just a terribly designed raid. You canāt actually do it as 4 very easily because you donāt get enough light buffs at the beginning
well, you do you, im not gonna argue further.
yeah got your points. night fox is way straight forward to do
have a nice day
there are 2 engravings you choose for 4x3 on a paladin
one of them is vph
but you're saying its useless
so 50% of support choices are useless
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no
no need to respec, just go with what u want
vph is useful for things like vykas and clown
its not the most helpful on valtan, but it does fine with other things
I mean, you can run both if you have two 6/6 stones and just swap the book around depending on the raid.
yup way cheaper
Yes.
Why are you buying relics
is there something to unlock a 4th cookie workshop slot? Is it the expansion item that costs 10k cookies?
You donāt really need relics on support at your stage, IMO. You will do just fine on leg accessories for a long time
Especially if youāre just getting barebones 3x3 or 4x3. Leg accessories are 15 pheons and will be cheaper
You wouldnāt need to touch leg accessories for months either š¤·š»āāļø
4x3 with leg accs will require gold books right?
My bard main is rocking leg accessories for 6+ months now and does clown
two options
you either use double class books
or you use one class book + 2 leg rings
No. Epic books and 6/6 rock
if you're 1445, you shouldn't be building your entire build with leg accessories
lose too much swiftness
Shrug. Itās just an option. Max q leg compared to max q relic is what 300 or so combat stat? Which translates to ~10% cd I think
You wonāt get rejected for parties still, and youāll learn to play better.
Yes thatās the best option to save some gold but also get good stats
33 relics 60ish quality costs as same as 33 leg but it will give u higher combat stats. so basically you trading pheons for more swiftness
you'll also lose a lot of vit, which equates to heals and shields
building with legendaries when you have access to relic just seems troll tbh
Eh itās just budget consideration, thatās all
if you have the gold go for relics. for me I'm still collecting for relics. with my pala 1445+ and two alts 1400. I generate about 16k per week. so I can accord getting all I need in two/three weeks
Really? I mean if you are cutting you should cut awakening/expert rocks
Each rock is already 2k in pheons
Yes, pretty much
welcome to the endgame
Check BC conversion for yourself
So yeah, there is no such thing as a cheap rock
Cutting awake/expert should save you the most in terms of acc prices
Why do you think I said it's >20k in pheon cost alone for a setup?
What is the easiest way to get an alt to 1302? Want to get a second bard.
It's not cheap, but it's reasonable.
(Though technically itās not the bis support stone)
Itās how much you trust RNG. Stone cutting is painful
keep your stone
If you aren't buying 5/3 accessories, keep the stone.
20k is normal for a 4x3 setup
You'll have to buy a whole new setup regardless, at a later point anyway.
I mean I donāt think it is for raw gold excl pheons
I spent that much on my bard when relics were released
It's all about your engraving combinations.
5x3 Igniter can cost 300-500k or ~100k, depends on your combinations.
No but itās support. Itās all the same 3 main engravings
Anyway, good luck. I would echo others in not wasting pheons if you can avoid it
Ultimately, you can do everything at 3x3 on paladin
I would personally save gold for my DPS alts
Wednesday - Sunday
reset is good
usually large influx of accessories from raids
no no, just there might be less
Less availability.
not necessarily
awake/expert on stones means you'll need awake or expert accessories
which are usually more expensive than say drops or vph accessories
you could either spend hours every day searching the market looking for best prices to save like 10k gold
or just buy it
He can just combine awake/expert stone with awake/expert engraving slots for 4x3
and wheres he gonna get blessed aura from
That only really works with legendary accessories.
the market isn't consistent enough to know when to buy, what to buy at what prices
because its completely player driven
you could buy your accessories, then see better ones listed the day after for 10k less
or you could hold off, and not find any you're looking for for weeks
Meh okay I forgot itās relics. but itās still nodes in those that you donāt need accs for. I donāt see why itās worse
i wasn't trying to say it was worse
moreso that it could potentially be worse, as i was trying to avert his fears that he made a mistake on his stone
Yes
hes what i used for all of mine
pretty much required, unless the party you're with is all consenting to doing it blind
Sort of. Some people will not have a clue though ā¦
Main thing is to be patient š
most of them yes
they'll always be one or two who are clueless, and it just makes it harder for everyone else
main thing is ditch hem after you practised enough if they still struggle clearingsimple raid
Er?!
Tf is terrorist?
I feel like you should not call people terrorists in any game ā¦
15 different political jokes ran through my head then but
i'd assume a terrorist is someone that is deliberatelyholding the entire raid "hostage" by griefing
whereas a jailer, or people refer to being in jail, is more so when they feel like they're the only competent, or one of the few competent and are being held back by people in the raid who can't do it, but not out of griefing deliberately, but just being bad
how do we level up crafting workshop? and how do we check what the current level progress of it is? I can only see that it's level 2 at the very top but knowing the % would be great
research you do in your lab, which is unlocked at certain stronghold levels
so we need to research more things to increase stronghold level and at a certain stronghold level we unlock the next level of crafting workshop?
do we need to research it in lab to level up or does it auto level up
research, crafting and dispatches all give stronghold exp
and yes, when you get to a certain level, one of the researches will be workshop level, it might have some prerequisites, like research lab level
you can look it up in your lab, by changing teh filter to "unavailable" research, and finding the workshop reserch, it will tell you the requirements to do it
tyty. also is it worth spending royal crystals to buy blue crystals to unlock vern ball dress which reduces crafting cost?
Is that payla?
yes
I think that is worth it, IMO
i've full rapported her but dont have blue crystals
Itās the best general costume
Exchanging gold for bc is more value rn than rc conversion
Given how much they've dropped
You should over time save way more from the cost reduction alone
should I already use the esoteric skills eaven if I dont have the engraving yet?
and is selling order in auction house/market random? cos i see there r 400k same mats being sold at the same time for the same price
missing a bunhc of sp
Wdym 
If that's accesories or stones it's either rmt or a literal bis accesory
level 50 guide and esoteric build uses different skills
Use the one on the esoteric guide adjust the slider for sp
Itās bought in order, I believe
Those don't sell forr 400k 
No he means there are lots in stock
how do I do that? im copying from maxroll
Oh, yeah never sell blues, reds are also not worth rn, for Oreha you wanna save up the mats to craft Brel Orehas
There's a slider on maxroll
uh
can i change the weapon effect(glow) color?
No it's dependent on weapon level
are you saving up for selling them or only in the stronghold?
Saving up
i wonder how much they will go for on the launch
can you change gear ?
i make the wrong relic gear
guys how do you change relic gear?
What is 1460 turtle meta, I see people calling stuff in chat but don't know what it means. Is it 1 flare 2 corro 34 phero?
1 flare 2-3 phero 4 corro usually
Itās called FPPC in party finder
Ok ty
do you get back your deposit when you sell something on the AH?
ya
Cool, so there is no downside to sellingthings for 3d?
not aside from losing the deposit if you withdraw the item early
Perfect, thanks
Your Gear window and underneath your character model there is an option you can click
what are the chances to find Wei in Annika?
he lives in Anikka no?
how long does the speedrun to tier 3 normally take?
like 3 days
yea not anymore after the 100% T1/2 QoL
If they call it in the chat itself, 1 and 2 is pheramone order number, C for corrosive and someone usually flares. If you look in PF, it's FPPC like mentioned.
Is it efficient to soul harvest everydaY?
Yes? It's inefficient not to.
i mean... yes?
Ty
if you're talking about time efficiency
then if you only do rested guardians
you get 66% of the rewards for 33% of the time spent
but you still only get 66% of the rewards. so if you have the time, you should be doing them daily
would take kbw out and take adre instead
Yes/no, depends on the party. A lot of people will probably still not accept you.
might as well as making 4x3 if you're at 1415
The bar for 4x3 is so low nowadays that 3x3 is not appealing.
Shell out gold for pheons then, that's what we all have to do.
I sure as hell didn't get 4 characters to 5x3 without buying lots of pheons
They don't give you enough for that.
could still do 3x3 so at least you wouldnt be gatekept as much assuming you're not buying any accs tho cuz if you are i suggest save up more and go for 4x3
Check the codex or crafting NPC.
Just remember that it's 75 pheons for a full legendary set + stone costs.
So you spend an extra 22.5k gold in pheons 
hence not buying
What does fppc mean :-0
Flare, Pheromones, Pheromones, Corrosive.
Party member #1, #2, #3, #4
First player(party number) uses flare, second pheo, third phero, 4th corrosive
Agreement for a faster kunge
Hard Mode Legion raids, Thunderwings or Legion Exchange shop.
Normal raids dont drop them
also Thunderwing you have to be 1445 before they start dropping SoC
wonāt be easy to find a grp but yeah itās still fine
Do you finish all the mobs inside Chaos Deungeon oryo ugo portal
If there's lots left and you don't have skill CDs, finish them and then go through.
Your goal is to kill as many as possible, as quickly as possible.
Yes, also check #shadowhunter for more class specific questions.
Anyone able to help out on Argos p2. Kinda stuck on this guy. 
Since Pinnacle isn't back attack, likely that.
part of the guide says "Ideal: Accept the Kalthertz Una's Task and complete it (Alt+J) for 6x
Harmony Leap Stone." but that quest doesnt show up to me
control has no stance switching so it depends on your definition of easier
ask in your regions channel
have you finished the quests on the island to unlock the task?
The base cards don't count towards the awakening bonus right?
yea we generally refer to the place instead of the name of unas themselves
right
hallucination will do more damage even with spec/crit unless you're dying for atk. speed for whatever reason
pinnacle is back attack though
Then why is it suggested to run Salvation?
You don't constantly attack the back and run Entropy like Control.
no idea lol, the math shows halluc as being a good 5% strongerish vs the atk speed from salvation, not to mention you losing salvation if you take a big hit
you should at least try, and pinnacle can run entropy
I know, I have a 1475 Pinnacle Glaivier with 5x3 š Not Entropy though.
yeah, you can go either nightmare or entropy - should always grab back attacks if you can, though it's quite hard in red
entropy pinn is better
and u do run it end game since itās just that good
sure
does anyone know how many of the new leaps you get from one calleligos run?
Do we know what the winter skins will be?
no
5
Does shield piercing work on alteisen gvg boss?
anyone knows the downtime between SH merchants ?
does using gear transfer makes me spend shards again or will it stay at 0% ? ( legendary glove > crafted relic, legend currently at 0% was using special honing only )
legend argos/oreha gear to relic gear, u keep ur artisan if thats what ur asking
yup thats what i meant, thanks
does the upcoming "2weeks" brel drop anicnet accessories?
no
hey peeps, how do I unlock looking for guild channel?
Anyone know what a 'tesla bus' is? I'm not sure if it's like a collection of guilds or just trying to say run is fast
fast run
no brel hard gives ancient\
Hello, is here anyone who could provide a picture of a dyed ascension sword skin? I am not sure whether its worth to buy them since I dont know to what extent they be dyed. I would be very thankful if yes š
This is a different error code than the normal DC one we have been suffering from the last several weeks right?
I'm just gonna relog and call it a day 
Do you have to have the required item level to get rewards from fields bosses? 2nd time i did thunderwing and dropped nothing(required is 1460 and i am 1430)
Bahahahahaha, the irony
You (or your team) must contribute enough damage.
Oh so being a support pala alone i just get the quest done with no drops?
Since damage its not really my strong point
Just slap lfg during the boss spawn and people will invite you.
make a pt and invite random ppl they usually just accept
Did and nothing happened rip
kk, will do next time, thanks
unless you build an actual dps paladin build, you still wont do enough to get contribution
just spam invites to dps characters
What should i buy with ametists ? besides the orca skin that i already have for my ghotship (using the sailor that reduces debuff)
Already got that, got lucky and only needed 7 or 8 runs
so im gonna assume the blue crystal glory skins arent dyeable anymore?
Right, the nightmare of dishes. i stopped doing food after the cursed bloody fist of feiton
ok im herte
cool thanks men !
ahhh yeah maybe but i did all quest today
yeha i see it now
okay ! thanks ^^
okay i keep every chests on my storage if i dont it for up my gear?
i follow already a T3 guide but i will see maxroll as well
Maxroll has the best one. All others are inferior.
what is the ilvl for full 1490 transfer (+20) after brel releases?
1510
ty
Does lightning fury actually helps with chaos dg ? or not that much
light fury is a cheap not really that strong engrave, helps but eh
preemptive already does work, combine with raid cap
Doesnāt really need to be updated. Useful part are what islands to do in what order.
Does anyone have screenshots of their instant cast reflux sorc??? I wasted a lot of guild because I didnt know what I was doing but now I want to learn. I understand I need adrenaline (following maxroll build) and to reduce Precision Dagger (P. Dagger) so what do you guys recommend to get to that?
My engravings are:
Necklace P. Dagger +4 Grudge +3 Speed Re +3
Earing 1 Hit Master +5 P. Dagger +3 Power Re +3
Earing 2 P. Dagger +4 Grudge +3 D. Red +3
Ring 1 and 2 P. Dagger +4 Grudge +3 D. Red +3
Ability Stone Hit Master +7 Grudge +7 Speed Re +5
gold*
Need someone to take me with him to kakul saydon , dont have the titel because I only got a few clears so far
Try the #sorceress channel.
This aināt the place for that kind of help.
you already cleared clown right? just join non title lobbies, you should already be experiened
all your accessories have precise dagger on them
so you'd have to change everything
what
what
I don't have access to it??? Or at least im looking at the wrong spot
i believe so
Beat you to it 
Could I buy the accessories that have the other engraving and just swap out the P. Dagger with adrenaline? would that be worth it?
im not sure exactly what you're asking
you have a 7/7 rock, and 2 leg books
making 5x3 with those accessories just with adren instead of precise isn't difficult
but you would have to replace every piece
it isnt the end of the world if he goes precise, but ofc he gonna most likely do less damage compared to adre, until he can afford to buy everything at once he can just keep using that
going cheapo has its cons
yeah precise is fine
he was the one that wanted to swap it out
Basically, what accessories need to be replaced. What amount of Nodes is recommended. That's what im going for
all of them
because they all have precise dagger, and you want to get rid of it
I gotcha. The ability stone is good for what i have at the moment then
yes
cool. Thank you!
technically you could keep one piece that has a +5 on it
but everythign else would have to be 5x3, and therefore super expensive
whereas if you replace everything, because of your books and stone, you can get some cheaper pieces
Pheons
pheons are there to be spent
the sooner you stop worrying about them, the better you'll feel
whats the difference between hm legion raid and normal otehr than loot?
i dont feel good wasting 25-40k or more when i wanna build a char
more/different mechanics
more hp, does more damage
but it is what it is i guess
thats cos you're considering it a waste
what % do the relic brel books give?
is the emote vow?
Tell that to the 70k gold I spent last week on them 
why would i waste if i can get them for free over time 
why does guide video dont clarify whether they giving guide for hm or normal? or is it that mechanic are still generally the same
depends what guide you're watching
most decent guides will specify when theres a hardmode difference
atk
what are you trying to learn
imo its the same shit 98%
vykas indeed has a couple added mechs and less forgiving, watch ATK
there are key differences that if you dont know, will just kill you and ruin the run
another good one is Memorizer98
i see valtan as a bigger sponge with added knockback, and its not even that much
i mean yeah, i think thers literally only one difference between valtan nm and hm
but he also said vykas
i never cleared vykas before without getting bus it seems rlly complicated
it is, if you dont even pay attention when you take the busses
theres a lot, when you compare it to valtan
but its just practice
well they generally tell you to die as soon as you get in ..
valtan has 2-3 things that can kill you, vykas has a lot that WILL kill you and your party
well yeah but cant you spectate?
yeah, but again thats just practice
idk whats going on lol
if you watched a guide and then spectated the bussers, you will learn a bit
imagine going to a new game and watch someone else play it for you, of course you're not gonna learn anything nor understand
im trying to find a vykas learn party rn
you can make one yourself and it will slowly fill up
dude
you need a basic concept of the thing at the very least, or at the very very least you want* a basic concept of the mechs
you do it what, one, two, three? times a week, its not really regular enough to learn
thats what i mean about practice, eventually you'll do it enough times and do it regularly enough, that it doesn't feel like you have to think about it anymore
yes i plan on watching the video already but need practice and stuff as well
clown pizza is mandatory
is there a community server for Tradeskills and stuff? 
unless you either skip it or die and get carried since that's after labyrinth
tradeskills?
no? what do you need
wondering what's better (and just in general I got questions every now and then but here they often just drown in other questions so I don't ask)
dont be lazy tho
both basic and rare are quite good i guess, i think that's a "pick your poison" thing
I noticed that for example for pots I'm low on the basic flowers more than the higher ones, so I guess it would be good to have basic
you want basic rewards
yeah i guess basic then
honestly i havent even bothered too much with lifeskills, i gotta start doing them someday in the very far future
i used to do them, until they added the simple oneclick button on strongholds
kinda same 
also dont worry about asking anything in here, that's what the channel is for, even if people flood it, just ask away, if no one answers they either missed the question or dont know the answer
I know but I don't like that 
dont be peeposhy
personally I'd still like to have more separate channels like an extra channel for tradeskills
it's not about being shy 
that's flooding the discord with useless channels, its still a game question, so it belongs here
imagine having a channel for questions about lifeskill, another for honing, another for engravings, another for substats, another for ..... etc
yeah, if you ever need to ask pointless questions, just make sure you @rose jewel
don't see an issue with that at all, but I already asked about that some time ago and mods didn't want it so I just gave up
does anyone know if I am trying to get sea bounty from world boss, do I need to use my daily boss thing or can i just farm it every hour
@crisp turtle why do i suck at valtan
NA problems
but im from mexico
A problems then
š
that's overdoing it of course, but I'd rather have that and get a good answer after 10min or even 2h than get my question spammed away or get an answer from someone who just guesses what's right
just ask again
you have no idea how many people spam their question every like... 30 seconds until someone comes and answers... or sometimes they never get answered coz no one knows the answer 
just my preference 
help channel, ask question, no answer after X time, ask again
no answer again? spam @rose jewel
not really a good preference, i better have 1 channel to ask anything bout the game than having 100 dif. channels each one for a dif. mechanic about it
its not like 100 people a minute ask things, somethings its actuall super dead and no one ask a thing after hours
ignoring the fact that most of the time people in here have casual convos instead of helping cough
I never do that 
no idea what you're talking about
what can u do when u reach 1445 and have 4x3 engraving? kinda new to the game
do valtan hard and get relic armors
well back in like february-June this channel was a mess and I didn't even look at it anymore cuz it was a waste of time
also vykas normal
can u do it random gruppes or u need someone juicy carrier?
its still a mess whatcha talking bout
uhh, since its a raid and it has mechanics that you need to follow... you either find a party of new people to learn the raid with or pay for a carry
the fights are really fun and make your heart go dokidoki once you're near the end, specially valtan, but yeah you want to go with people to learn the raid, not join just any party and grief them
~~just clear vykas g3 hard before you ever touched vykas g3 normal... normal way of things
~~
you should look around in party finder to see if there is any learning party open, or you can look around in here on the #944813265123418182 channels of your region to look or ask for one, there are also some streamers or discords/communities on reddit for learning parties
i also recommend (not obligatory but having roots is good) watching a couple of guides of it beforehand, ATK and Memorizer98 have good guides on legion raids
the point being: you cant just ungabunga and win, there are some mechanics that will either kill you or you and your party if you dont do them correctly
no pressure tho
how do i skip feiton? just hit ilvl 1100?
its my main
yh ig but im tryna get 1302 so i can join a higher guild and do 1302 things
and they cant wait 2hrs?
2hrs.. yeah alright
yes 2hrs is the time its gonna take you to finish feiton's msq
I did skip it because I wanted to actually enjoy the story... still didn't get to do it 
my track record so far has been one island a day
besides you need manual clears if you wanna KT later on
if you wanna read everything and have the mats to push 1100 easily, just skip it. if you don't really care about story, do it
you don't 
you do tho lol
you can just power pass past it and it's unlocked
unless you buy powerpasses
buy?
but one punika pass is enough to unlock all you skipped 
don't u get two punika passes once you done?
no
oh bruh just one?
you need clears to actually do the KT is the point, one manual clear or powerpass = one character you can KT for that continent
yh idk what kt is
im not telling him to manually do awakening 2 quest, its only the main story
if you wanna skip it go ahead, i can only recommend, not force
besides the vow emote idr what else you get from there
definitely not worth doing awakening 2 quest when punika powerpass is available
yeah no ofc, i was just telling him to manually do feiton's msq coz that's his main
access to the 2 most important una's
Does running Cube Ticket 3x give 3x Silver?
it only gives you 3 chests at the end
does honing always prioritize bound items first?
yes
yes
is there a place in this server where I could find clown learning parties?
so how often do bots get banned here?
#944813265123418182 #979604974218653736 (of your region)
are there bots in here? never noticed one
not here, I mean ingame
im sorry, the dad jokes and even the worse than dad jokes are a daily thing
cant stop them
hmm, I'm at the point where im honing to 1490, only thing im lacking is greaters, would you guys sell or use unbound
if i dont make it to 90 when brel releases, i can use unbound
My lost ark is bugged everytime I open my PC my lost ark game says its running but when I stop running it, it won't stop should I uninstall?
that's what i would do
I'm getting to the point where buying legendary engraving books is on the horizon, buying a class engraving is cheaper but something like Grudge (although it is SO expensive) is on pretty much every character, is it worth just saving for ages and trying to get Grudge or should I just get a class engraving for my main
reinstall steam or just verify game files, i have no idea about your error
if you need them, use them
what im personally doing for my alts, is that they're only using bounds, but im not selling my unbounds
if i get to week before brel, and they're still not 1490, then ill use them
I did verify none happened
that seems more like a steam issue than lost ark issue
or a pc issue perhaps, honestly its weird
@crisp turtle @rose jewel seems like thats the plan then, I still got 5 pieces to go, wep too, is the game plan 21 wep? or is that much
all 20, wep 21 gloves 19 (or armor) are probably the 2 ways to go
or another piece instead of weapon for lesser mats usage
finally made it to rohendel kekw
did you swim there
i had to follow the whole maxroll guide lol
yeah it takes a while, but now you're ready to mass hone
still have a verapass
you can even hone to 600 before doing rohendel, it will be much easier to clear
if you're still trying to get to 1490, and leaps are your bottleneck then going for 21 weapon doesn't seem sensible
i may use it since I havent used the mats yet
I have never honed, but it cant be that hard lol
vern pass is a north vern pass, it wont help you on your main to clear anything, it will just make an alt char lv50 with shushire cleared
I dont have a main yet persay
just 2 level 50's
the quickest you pick a class you want to "main" and hone to the moon, the better for you and your alts and your economy
combat level doesnt matter, item level is the real sh*t
ye, I know, but I havent started honeing any class yet for rohendel
pick one and hone that to the moon (1100 at the very least)
I dont have the mats for that yet
if you did the whole road to rohendel, you do
Hi, is there a channel to browse guild ads or look for a guild or something on my server? I checked the subreddit but there are so many servers it's hard to find one on mine.
#979605141697224744 (pick your region at #navigation )
thats what i have
i dont recall the whole route giving only that amount of mats
are you sure you followed the whole thing (you didnt)
uhh
Thanks SIgnum.
what argos set should i get for arcanest class?
im pretty sure I did
imo preordained is the go to for crit rate, just go 2 argos set, no need for 5set
i have a few quests left like, IIts Okay Miss Fairy, becouse you need to complete it 3 times
but for a more concrete answer, #Arcanist
you get a song, you can complete the other quest, the rest is pretty much done
guide only says to hone to +8
i mean you're supposed to also get t2 mats from the route, not only t1
unless the guide is "this, then rohendel then continue after"
I havent started rohendel yet
coz its been sooo long i actually dont remember
this is all before rohendel
only 2 pair?
k then its the middle of the guide i guess
Just follow the āspeedrun to tier 3ā guide on Maxroll word for word. Youāll hit tier 3 (1100 ilvl) in a week or less.
the other 4 are going to be chosen gear, aka abyss dungeon hard
im still 1370
Yes after Rohendel you start the T2 route
so? you get all the legendary gear at 1370, abyss hard is 1370 as well as argos
Technically, rohendel is still tier 1. You gotta hone up to 600 ilvl to get to yorn (start of tier 2).
i believe you get t2 mats from islands even before you get to yorn
dude i dont even remember the guide, its been 9 months
I just leveled a fresh steam account on nae shortly after vykas launch so I could answer questions like this.
but yeah i guess you start the t2 mats route after you finish rohendel
so should I stop honing at 460 for rohendel, or just keep going and transfer later?
Keep honing until you reach at least 1100.
you can hone to +15 if you have enough mats, will make beating rohendel easier
oh... i dismantle all my oreha rewards... didn't know i still need them
anyone else having issue launching the game
you and yourself, what's the issue
Rohendel MSQ > islands > hone to 600 ilvl > yorn msq > get t2 set from yorn chaos > hone > feiton msq > hone to 1100 > punika msq > t3 set from punika chaos
Profit
Do purple quest or whatever and get your free punika power pass and use it on whatever you want. Boom, 2 t3 characters ez.
or
buy s vern powerpass
profit
stonks
that was the idea all along
honing seems more player friendly in this game
or does it get ridiculous later on?
because you dont skip every single step
and you actually know what your char does before going to higher tier content
even if its not much, you learn about a couple things, and you're a bit more prepared, instead of buying the pass and yolo the raid being totally naked rainbow substats 0 engravings etc
how much silver does cube give?
it gets more ridiculous later on
but, its also one of the few systems that has a pity system
well im coming from BDO, cant me more ridiculous than that
you're yet at the honeymoon phase where everything is 100% success chance
does it go back a tier when failed?
no, nothing that bad
lol no, this game doesnt suck ass like that
the punishing systems are just failing to upgrade
theres no system that actually puts your character progression backwards
the thing is, succ % gets lower, like 10%, then 5, then 3, then 2, 1, 0.5 (way wya later we're not yet there)
but you always have a pity system called artisan energy, every hone gives you X amount of artisan %, after getting 100% artisan you get 100% chance next hone
ye I have had my fair shots from tet to pen with 0.5%

what the
you ever played bdo?
thank god i didnt, no
well just imagine you have a 0.5% change from +24 to +25
and if you fail it goes back to +23 again, etc
no pity system
its not the only game with that kind of system
It's bad though, played it for 3k hours.
i played something similar with dragon nest
and Ragnarok Online, if you fail it poofs
its bad, but you played it for 3k hours
its just plain bad, like you farm for hours on end to get your self 4 times the same weapon so you can try more times kekw
gambling is bad, but still fun lol
The gameplay is good, the progression is smodge.
im fairly sure honing is actually my favourite part of loa
feels good when you 1tap something at 3%
even if its 10 or 15 taps, that's way far from 100 arti
heart goes dokidoki
all week is spent gathering mats just to throw away on the gamba
raids were fun at the beginning, but at this stage they're just a pain i have to suffer through each week
and its just the character progression/honing that i look forward to
so once i have my class engraving already at lvl 1, should I choose a different uncommong engraving?
dont pick any until you need them
ok
halp. aside from rebooting, is there anything i can do when the game is stuck in a Running state on steam and neither LA or EAC show in Task Manager (not in Background Processes either)?
killing Steam from TskMgr doesn't change the state. it will show as Running when Steam loads back up.
what's the easiest way to get boss rush ticket? cuz right now i did chaos like 5x times and got nothing š
mainly CDs. iirc, there is an internal pity in the game, where you will get at least get one Cube/Boss Rush ticket every 7 days of Chaos if were unable to get a drop on the prior 6 days.
if you have the extra bloodstones, you can grab 1-3 chests from the Bloodstone shop with a chance of BR/Cube/Silver
so i need to just keep farming?
pretty much
try killing steam in the background processes
okay thanks ^^
no luck
i need to exactly know this:
of course first restart your pc for a fresh start
after that, open steam and open LA, does EAC logo ever comes up? and if it does, does the game logo ever shows?
fix is easy if the first is yes and the second no
quick question
do you get max kbw value if the skill fully crit?
or if your crit % is high?
hei hows goin?
the higher your crit chance, the better value kbw is
i need an advice for lunar reaper
y but my main is sorc
you can have more than one role
you can have a main role, and you can put other class roles on your profile so you can see the other channels
Reaper Community Guide This guide was made possible by the Reaper channel community from Lost Arkās Discord server with the purpose of helping players interested in this class. The guide draws from the experience of players from other regions like RU, JP and KR. This guide takes into considera...
i have 6 classes
for now i need only reaper enginer and sorc
then just pick those roles
you can always click the role button later on to remove it if you want
@rose jeweldo you auto atack cancel with C or left click?
ok, just looking at the rotation and it says auto cancel until wind whisper back from CD, but tahts like 30s at my level lol
yeah dont bother, you're gonna break your finger
Are there any noob guides to making gold? or new player guides... I need to start from the basics because i don't make a lot of gold and i can't fix builds without them to even do raids so i can get gold from the raid.
it's alright practice, not much else to do while wind whisper is on cooldown for 5 years
the damage from auto attacks on martial artists isnt even high to just murder your finger like that, however at later later levels you can AA to fill your identity bar if you're Esoteric for a full bubble if you're close to getting it
but I assume I would use the other skills in the meantime right?
i think it's like 50% more damage from auto attacks...which is like 3% of total dps or something
if you go for first Int just run aroud or prepare counter
Im esoteric
wardancer is a burst class
you use all your shit in a 6 second window and rest for 1000 years until CDs are back up
damn, and here I am thinking it was a high apm class
it is, way later, after you get your relic set and high swift from accesories
it is more spammy later on, early on it's just 5000 years of cooldowns
your CDs are 30 seconds now, after relic and swift stacking your CDs are as low as 13~ seconds or so
still not as bad a SS tho lol
do thirst reapers use the same rotations as lunar?
Yeah, just make sure you don't only spam red or you lose hunger
one of your purples is around 7s CD, you can use that to increase move speed for raid cap. and positioning, and refreshing your red bar buff
ok thats what ive been doing basically
one of the greens is extremely spammable and that's how you lower your red skill CDs, the counter is used to reposition or to counter
the other leftover purple is for when you need extra damage or when your bar resets
wasnt sure if there was like a specific rotation tho ty guys š s
nah, ungabunga
when did they change red/yellow portals giving double drops on rest bonus? both my rested characters got 600 gold from red portals today
Will the island souls on field bosses still drop even if youve already killed a boss for the day? or does it have to be your daily lockout to get the soul?
fill bar, maintain it and spam reds on cd
you need the day lockout
same for mats or cook items or w/e they drop, including collectibles
dang. ok, guess ill leave thunderwings alone for a while to get some souls up
600g is about right for a 1415+ red portal
red portal is indeed affected, gold portal is not from my understanding
yeah, it's just a slightly tactical ungabunga haha
you gotta backattack as well, you cant just mash and whatever hits wherever good
but reaper has it was easier compared to other classes, she can fly thru
literally if the enemy is not a legion level boss
like incubus from g1 vykas
do all sidereals target the direction you're facing and not your cursor?
thirain and ninevah go to where your cursor is pointed
are the best legendary skills for a spec pet the chance of spec meter gain? (unless playing robust soulfist I guess but I don't)
for meter gaining classes, yes
but its not worth rolling for
it doesn't say what chance it is to get that, it's not 100% then?
there are 5 different pet skills
so i'd assume 20% chance to get it
I can select the ones I want 
Is there anyway to get in touch with any mod or who has any authority? Not talking about support all I get there is copypasta replies
oh, i thought it was a gamble
Pet skills are useless garbage
unless it's hidden, doesn't look like gamba
yeah, i just assumed like everything else it was a gamba, i was wrong mybad
also what makes them trigger? like me doing an attack, me taking dmg, some timer?
Since they have a few min cooldown and u don't get to choose when it procs, I personally chose to go with the heal since it's the most likely to benefit me AT ALL
Just procs randomly and goes on a fat cooldown
procs in combat
and i think its like 2-3min cooldown
they are being very clear about how things work again I see 
hmm well I guess I'll just leave the hp one for now then, since I already got that
yeah, chances are it will never proc at a useful time
not worth spending crystals on tbh
Yeah just take the occasional heal and forget about it :d
#request-a-mod
Just keep in mind, this discord is in no way connected with official AGS or SmileGate.
so it's not worth me AAing with FIrst Intention WD while waiting for my buff cooldowns?
you should be, especially with no relic set
as you're waiting on like 30s cooldowns
what does "x3 hit on dial" mean when looking for a party?
The thing is I have been banned in game apparently for cheating and when I appeal a ban all I get is copypaste replies of you cheated and wont be unbanned, so is there anyway to have a proper convo with a support or something?
for argos G1 mechanics
x3 is for the safe spot, your safe spot position is 3x your party number on a clockface
"hit on dial" means on the follow-up mechanic, the equilibrium phase, you just continue hitting without trying to do the mechanic properly
ahh okok
ungabunga
i knew what x3 meant in the raid but i didnt know people used it in their party titles
i finished the last piece of my relic set yesterday
is Orvis Island Token part of daily rewards instead of the direct drop?
very sorry but literally no one in here is gonna be able to help you, we are a fan discord basically, we can not contact amazon in any way to appeal anything at all, you're at the mercy of sending tikets thru the official website
So they said I cheated and now I am banned for eternity even tho I didn't?
you still do some aa's
but you don't have much downtime anymore
Roc-WW-SK-FhF-MFK-LK-aa filler-ssb-LK-FhF-aa filler repeat
Wtf is this shit
i always think on bad word while reading some WD skill abreviations
Worst support ever
shrugs sorry, but again no one here can help, we're mere mortals playing the game, we are not affiliated to amazon, and even if you go to the official lost ark discord, it will be the same answer, the only way to appeal bans are with tickets
forums are the same story, cant help there
I mean atleast have a proper support instead of copypasta replies
what can i say
I have msged them like 10 times over the days and all I get is 2 replies in total for 10 questions
yeah, well, sorry
Why you are sorry it's not your fault, I am just sad that i wasted all these time and money for this
im glad you are an understanding human being, some people come here, riot, insult us and leave 
Did you buy or sell something recently?
did you by any chance did a refund or smt
If my homeboy fofigjrnebeo ālentā you some gold, youāre in for a bad time.
isnt it your friendly neighbor "jgasyybfjdsa" ?
I still don't get the idea behind this x3 stuff, like I understand how it works but... why make it "complicated" ?
(not actually complicated but just less intuitive than the normal party number setup)
what, x3 is the easiest thing in the world to remember
nesw is so much simpler
^^
you don't see x3 in euc at all, its always nesw
get away with that sorcery
yeah that's the thing, EU always uses NESW, while NA culture is x3
kr fanboys
you do what everyone does
and stand in the positions beforehand
aint got no time for that
x3+1 and directly to start the raid, you dont need to take positions of anything
do you guys actually do x3+1 for clown g1 or vykas g1?
because every lobby i've ever been in just stand in positions before the gate
