lost-ark-discussions

[thorny olive]

ye

if it doesnt increase base it's pointless for sups anyway

but even if it does, whatever, not our problem

dps monkeys want the change they deal with it

not gonna lock my gems cuz of some dps rat

ye idk

i never cared about multi char

idc if ppl play 6 of same, 2 of same or all different

yea, selfish people I think

[fresh flint]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1078274371543642133/1348279539519983719/Lostark.gif

[thorny olive]

like those who say its a good change say its good cuz they just gain power

[fresh flint]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1368029932071944282/ez.gif

[radiant sleet]

very bad game, players get untrasted. stupid game makes players disappointed idiot

[fresh flint]

ITS SO BIG

[fresh flint]

bro what?

[radiant sleet]

very bad game, players get untrasted. stupid game makes players disappointed idiot

[past ginkgo]

That is not official bozo

[thorny olive]

I agree

[fresh flint]

lmao

wtf

[thorny olive]

he spitting facts

[neon cedar]

Gatekeeping standards ill never meet

[thorny olive]

that's like

I guess closest is female warrior

i mean female martial artist

[vocal pollen]

if I had to guess, it's yet another person who plays more than 1 account and lost untrusted

[thorny olive]

very bad game, players get untrasted. stupid game makes players disappointed idiot

[slender sky]

i gain power and still say its shit

[past ginkgo]

How do bozos even play multiple rosters, legitimate basement dwellers

[tulip charm]

Is that really how it all started? I was wonder why they even wanted to change this

[thorny olive]

yea me too

[past ginkgo]

I mean I should be quiet... I do 20k rc xp/h

[vocal pollen]

There's someone in the help channel that admitted to playing 9 different accounts

[thorny olive]

others are just selfish and doesn't realize how it hurts part of the playerbase for no good reason

[lunar hedge]

what the

[past ginkgo]

Guess his job is selling gold like venezuelan runescape botters

[vocal pollen]

Hey Tommy, mind if I send you something in dms?

[slender sky]

gem sharing just got out of control in KR. every sane person wouldve just made them roster bound, but some twisted fuck sat in his office and thought of a system to piss off both sides equally with 3 extra steps

[slender sky]

as long as its not your wiener its okay

[vocal pollen]

https://tenor.com/view/golden-girls-darn-dammit-damn-it-smiling-gif-21086622

[fresh flint]

LMFAO

[past ginkgo]

How dare you hurt Smilegate's pocket

Shame on you.

[tulip charm]

Why didn’t they just restrict gem mailing only

Instead of coming up with this bullshit

[stark sky]

cause this makes them money

[thorny olive]

piss off

• 6x same class roster, check
• mix of same and different classes roster, check
• rosters with transform classes, check
• players who doesn't care about multi rosters but get affected indirectly, more trash gem alts, etc, check

[slender sky]

like

theres so much shit to spend gold on

its not like roster bound gems would put everyone to the max on everything immediately

[stark sky]

instead of one party semi-willingly getting fucked by sg its everyone equally fucked whether they like it or not

[past ginkgo]

I don't get fucked

[swift tree]

*couples/friends that share gems

[past ginkgo]

[thorny olive]

yea the list can go on and on

[queen grail]

Just make a gem have 3 preset on it, and if you use that you lock the gem to roster.

That's perfect for me so I think that's what theye should do

[tulip charm]

No it dosnt, it just pissed on players goodwill, and made kr players riot

[slender sky]

it would easen the burden on new players aswell coz they would have the event gems for all their alts instead of the express char only and could gradually upgrade them

[stark sky]

yeah thats what its going to do

but in the short term, it makes them money

[swift tree]

that's too sensical

[thorny olive]

maybe a few whales

[stark sky]

but ya

[past ginkgo]

Someone sees their picture... whales gonna swipe 6 sets anyways, they want their money

[stark sky]

every content creator ive seen so far kr or not has been upset about the changes

[slender sky]

i dont see a single downside to it honestly, just edit the gem page in mass presets to fit and thats it

[stark sky]

so

who knows

[thorny olive]

poor memo

[stark sky]

cautty ended stream cause he was so upset and didnt want to stream while in a shit mood

lol

[swift tree]

Memo

[stark sky]

so sad

[thorny olive]

;(

[tulip charm]

I have a much better solution, let the people that complained about this in the first, the mega whales, let them fuse lv11 dmg gems, problem solved

[swift tree]

Cautthy and Memo BOTH had to kill off a glavier they only JUST finished setting up

[stark sky]

yea

glaivier lives dont matter

i know that firsthand

[tulip charm]

They didn’t have to kill off anything, the gem system isn’t coming tmrw, it’s not even coming in 3 month, assuming it even comes out at all

[stark sky]

they didnt but they wanted to play the game more efficiently

most people who do multi same class dont do it for fun

some do dont get me wrong

[swift tree]

they also enjoyed the class because glavier is also kinda fun

[stark sky]

well i should correct myself

most dps*

[swift tree]

well Cautty did

actually enjoys glavier

[tulip charm]

Here is some 4% dmg nerf plus some rando 10% t skill nerf followed by a new gem system all in 1 month. Meanwhile lets buff breakers

[stark sky]

cautty had

like $1k worth of gems

lol

on glaive

its fun doing damage

and not having to worry about one system is pretty nice

[tulip charm]

Some do play multi class because it’s fun, I have 2 artilerist

So even I am slightly affected

[fresh flint]

you are not the target audience zheng

get out

[tulip charm]

But Setsura, mocha, scalp got killed lol

There is alot of 6x sorc, 6x se players out there

[swift tree]

I made 2 more paladins because only male support and I wanted more in main 6 AND it's fun to play in solo mode

[tulip charm]

And most support mains have 2 or 3 of the same supp, like 3 artist 3 bard ect

[wintry depot]

i have 5 artists

but idc

[swift tree]

I have artist and bard, bard kept tapping like crap

[wintry depot]

that change barely impacts supports

[slender sky]

why did my internet just die

i got chaoses to run

[swift tree]

equips a bracelet line that equals same amount

[fresh flint]

revive it

[tulip charm]

Wait a minute….

[fresh flint]

im trying to get into a fucking aegir nm on my artist

but my GOD

cheaper AH has made this a living hell

[tulip charm]

Is this some way they came up with to solve support shortage…???

Multi class players all convert to supp mains

[wintry depot]

theres no support shortage

[tulip charm]

Time to sell class conversion tickets in the f4 shop

[wintry depot]

there is only first few weeks of a dps releasing

[tulip charm]

For 50k bc per ticket

[queen grail]

The new gem system just seems so.

Stupid.

[queen grail]

Like be real, how often do you change skills on your own gems?

[fresh flint]

my ptsd triggered

[tulip charm]

For once yea, for the first time ever this week I saw, there is no more supp shortage at aegir hm, everywhere else supp surplus for months already

[wintry depot]

heyyyyy

[vocal pollen]

which one should I boost?

[fresh flint]

yeah fuck all you rat fucks honing to 1660

[tulip charm]

This is the longest downtime between the next new raid we’ve ever had, supp honers caught up

[wintry depot]

yes it was only supp problem in aegir hm, nowhere else there was one

well yeah

[stark sky]

step 1. make t4 incredibly expensive
step 2. people find that making the same class is significantly cheaper and prevents a lot of stuff like gatekeeping OR you enjoy playing same class/support/transform
step 3. shoot those people in the head

profit!

6/9 months later

[tulip charm]

I have one supp here already

[stark sky]

they could do a lot of things scalp

lmao

of course its not

[wintry depot]

smilegate is just dumb af

[stark sky]

t4 kurzan gives less than end of t3 chaos dungeon

[queen grail]

This also does not help the people playing 6 char's that are different and who has a much higher hurdle to overcome

This change seems kinda. Dent

[fresh flint]

Batch #2. Get to it slaves.

[stark sky]

it doesnt help them no, its just targetted to create dissonance

people have to realize

[tulip charm]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/978364869839560765/1367896608955437146/image.png?ex=6816407d&is=6814eefd&hm=8a9aee2f8d6faca31192e1540f0752678b2fa800429e0df62503f9b4c37b9731&

[stark sky]

everything they do from now on is balanced around the new bound gem ap values

if they go through

lmao

[tulip charm]

I encountered one with eclipse title last reset in Brel hm in pugs and was almost jailed. I actually blocked, haven’t blocked anyone in about a year

[tranquil shore]

by how much doe?

[tulip charm]

He died 6 times in a row before 200 bars in g2, cleared with him dead

[stark sky]

in the past 2 weeks we've had over a 5x gem supply increase

and gems have dropped around 30%

of course the supply isnt yours, but its there

[vocal pollen]

the event shop giving so many resonance pots

[stark sky]

and its actually made gems quite accessible

[vocal pollen]

bots eating good

[stark sky]

to a lot of people

now imagine if the supply was yours

personally

its not hard to imagine getting a good supply pretty readily

[tulip charm]

I am interested in seeing the source, the original post of someone complaining about this issue in the first place

The source that made smg cook up this bullshit

[stark sky]

yea

full 10s was pretty normal in end game raids

lol

a lot of people didnt have it of course

but it wasnt a shock to see

it also wasnt a gatekeeping measure

[queen grail]

Getting full 10's was the peak end-game but it was 100% in reach in T3 compared to T4.

Goodluck just getting 1 Lv.10 in T4.

[stark sky]

dunno

if sg doesnt do something maybe ags will

but im not getting my hopes up

[thorny olive]

hope AGS sees it unfit for our version and doesn't give us the change

[stark sky]

exactly

good for lining their pockets

thats all it is

[tranquil shore]

this here is the real reason

[fresh flint]

@sand marsh whats the aegir title

[tulip charm]

Could be, maybe they just got sick of the doom poster on kr, and responded with “get fucked”

[heavy mist]

you dont like new gems? 😮

[polar torrent]

i dont have crab mentality so no

[fresh flint]

this one?

[tulip charm]

I stand by what I said for the 25th time, there is no way this gem system get implanted the way it is, not without some heavy changes

Inb4 next emergency director stream in 48 hours

[polar torrent]

the only real solution is roster wide gems

[heavy mist]

huh? my roster need less gems now and they are more powerfull and also can change build in 1 click, giga W

[polar torrent]

they would if koreans werent such insert bad word here

[queen grail]

This would also brick the economy Imagine you now only need 1 set per account.

[heavy mist]

but they dont care about 1 class rosters, and finaly it will fair for everyone to play whatever they want not 1 class

[polar torrent]

i havent sold gems in a year

[polar torrent]

you think its super easy to get lvl 10 gems lol?

[tulip charm]

Apparently so, everyone on naw have full lv10 t4s, average I level is 1720

[polar torrent]

there is barely any demand in the first place because most people cant afford it 💀

[elfin pivot]

If you have 1680 alts then yeah its easy

[final storm]

Most people dont even want it cause the increase from 8 to 10 is not that big compared to pirce

[polar torrent]

exactly

[fresh flint]

My 1680 alts barely generate 1 lvl.3 gem per day

Easy my ass

xd

[polar torrent]

its inefficient af to have lvl 10 gems

[final storm]

???

[polar torrent]

sure, if a lvl 10 gem goes down to 200k

[tulip charm]

Damn, you lucky, unrested 1680 sometimes drop 1 lv1 t4 gems, sometimes 0

[heavy mist]

the only ones who don't like these changes are the crying 1 class

and then they have to add new tier again, smart xd

[polar torrent]

and the people who think this is good dont realize they could have it even better

[heavy mist]

yea its not perfect yet

[polar torrent]

its far from perfect lol

its literally a turd

[fresh flint]

what flavor turd

[final storm]

Roster bound Gems would be the only perfect thing for anyone

[heavy mist]

meter is toxic, but maybe self meter

[fresh flint]

meter is fine

[slender sky]

it revived itself gladly

im so back

[polar torrent]

doing zdps is more toxic

[final storm]

Meter is not toxic, its a Programm, the user CAN BE TOXIC

[thorny olive]

No, there's plenty of people who don't like it because they look further than just "I gEt pOwEr InCrEaSe"

[fresh flint]

grind time pog

[heavy mist]

yea, but community in LA is what it is

[keen copper]

dont do z and meter isnt toxic

[fresh flint]

And you know how they handle toxic people???

They ban them

Duh

[peak loom]

Duh

[fresh flint]

Ik your balls stank

[final storm]

The fun part about this is a lot of people havent even realised that with this new system event gems are prob not included and also t3 lvl 10 is not a thing anymore

[heavy mist]

yea, but we have amazon instead

[peak loom]

Ña

[slender sky]

i dunno what kinda soft ass games you played before, but loa community is far from toxic when it comes to meter usage

[final storm]

I cant remember a Raid where i saw toxicity because of Z dps or meter

[final storm]

it rarely happens

[fresh flint]

you stank liek shid

[final storm]

Let them play LOL for one day

[fresh flint]

i got flamed on my reaper last week for zdps

[thorny olive]

@final storm check dm xd

[slender sky]

i dunno its so rare i ever see some1 flame some1 else for that

[final storm]

[fresh flint]

it is rare, thats why i was so shook someone did it

[thorny olive]

Yeah

[slender sky]

like the worst that happens in our region is that a dps log lands on a private discord uncensored but thats about it

[fresh flint]

mfer called me out for sucking ass at reaper

[heavy mist]

i have friendo who is blamed for his dps a lot

[polar torrent]

bro there is literally a "x amount of gold for 1% dmg increase" chart and youre telling me people are gonna ignore the dmg increase on their mains which is LITERALLY FREE?

so you should band together

[slender sky]

damn you mustve been absolute dogturd

[polar torrent]

and call the director very bad words

[fresh flint]

i dont remember lets see

[slender sky]

nah man you ruined the guys day with your abomination of a reaper

let it slide

[fresh flint]

LMAO

[final storm]

Then help him get better, if its regualry it means he needs help

[fresh flint]

dude i was having a rough day

[final storm]

be a real friend and coach him

[vocal pollen]

Bornforfloor, eh?

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/xdd-xdding-cat-cute-cursed-gif-27104766

[heavy mist]

we do

[slender sky]

your party was having a rough day too

let me tell you that much

[fresh flint]

you liek dat huh?

[final storm]

Yes and Yes

[fresh flint]

nah we had juicers

idk why bro was bitching anyways

[slender sky]

its super cringe

[limber salmon]

Ask

More despairge 5x sh or evo with 1 Other class full 8s (main) than 6x blade,se,sorc with full 8s. if the new gem sytem applied on ags

[heavy mist]

but every day there are hundreds of people who ask for help, I can't help everyone 😄

[final storm]

exactly

[vocal pollen]

dw, you can pay blue crystals to change it back

[heavy mist]

if i can still upgrade them when they are locked why not, no reason to move them anyway

[final storm]

I mean in theory i could be fin with this cause nothing changes for me, but its bad for the game overall

[heavy mist]

Bro you cry because you play 6 paladin with 1 set of gems

[final storm]

Well it does, but its that much

i mean supps still have it good

binding gems as a sup is kinda meh

[thorny olive]

It doesn't really affect supports by much

If any

[slender sky]

@fresh flint OH btw

ill need a lot of cinder support in the future

[limber salmon]

Is affected more on 6x blade or se?

[fresh flint]

ill need monetary support

[heavy mist]

funny thing there is like 15 LA West discord talking on this topic and only here ppl cry about it xD

[thorny olive]

DPS gets affected more, yes

[slender sky]

pls man, i received my training regime today and ill be straight up not having a good time

[final storm]

i dont know how accurate it is but i red that if you bound a full set of 8s on a SUPP you get a increas of buffs of 0.45%

[fresh flint]

training for what

military?

[thorny olive]

If they don't bind it to 1 char they lose out on some damage, yes, stupid change

[fresh flint]

im gonna eat your toes

shuttup

[vocal pollen]

[limber salmon]

Ah . But if 3 class dif (both same class with 6 char) is wht i got mixing soon on core and filler gems to unbind and bind

[fresh flint]

https://tenor.com/view/looking-young-om-nom-cut-the-rope-looking-cute-looking-like-a-child-gif-14502699009868097824

[thorny olive]

It doesn't affect the supports anyway, only the DPS gets slightly less out of some supports, not our problem

[final storm]

my Roster is also chilling i have diffrent classes only 1 SH who would theoratically be losing atk power but i am to lazy to swap gems so he has lvl 5s for the extra atk power

[final storm]

[slender sky]

football

[fresh flint]

since when are u sportsman

[thorny olive]

Well, you can choose to play like you do currently by not binding any gems (probably the best), or bind a set of gems for each of your characters (probably not worth the effort & cost tbh)

[slender sky]

since forever, i was just out with a nasty leg injury

[limber salmon]

Im big struggling under 6x sh or evo or 6x same class main which have baby alt each other with 3 class diff.

But if ags agreed to do same think kr does on new gem system

[final storm]

well i just make them bound i dont need the gems to be unbound for anything besides upgrading

[heavy mist]

if you go 2/2/2 you will have bonus so its fine

[thorny olive]

We don't know yet if AGS will implement it

[heavy mist]

now if you have 6 diffrent chars u need only 3 set of gems

[thorny olive]

What

What this guy yapping

[slender sky]

why do i get rolls like that on a 3liner

[thorny olive]

CLASSIC

[heavy mist]

[slender sky]

if i roll a 4 or 5liner i get vitality and damage to challenger mobs

[thorny olive]

SAME

Cause he never gets a good bracelet anyway

[slender sky]

t4 has been generous, ive seen about 2 usable 5liner bracelets so far

https://tenor.com/view/xdd-xdding-cat-cute-cursed-gif-27104766

[thorny olive]

Mm so generous

I think all my chars have 4 liners which started from relic 3 liners

[queen grail]

No? But if everyone only need to get 1 set It's 6 times as easy

[polar torrent]

that makes it a realistic progression system

[thorny olive]

Well, they could always change gems into roster but you can continuously upgrade (with smaller increases after lvl 10)

But then they'd have to do some big changes for balancing and they can't bother with that

[slender sky]

yea same here lmao

[polar torrent]

they are gonna give 3% extra hp to all bosses to offset the bound gem ap inrease

[thorny olive]

Bet

[thorny olive]

Bracelets worse than elixir

[fresh flint]

and the dumb cunt thats dead on the floor wanted to yap

[slender sky]

my elixirs are goated

[fresh flint]

suck my arse

[thorny olive]

Yus

Big elixirs

[slender sky]

my main can never cut elixirs again

tho

[slender sky]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/852619895119020033/1368029932071944282/ez.gif

[final storm]

Why is that blade doing Z?

[thorny olive]

DPS meter toxic!!!!!!

[fresh flint]

he was doing 100m the entire raid

[slender sky]

anyone has a spare 330k gold?

[fresh flint]

o well

xd

[limber salmon]

But this is fk. how

Mybe its how the sorc moko company affected. Holy

[thorny olive]

xd not like ur showing anyone bad rly, so doesn't matter

[queen grail]

lol what

[thorny olive]

Whaaaat

[final storm]

I can see on the Meter that it is low you dont have to say it again

[slender sky]

how tho

we are at 21k right now

thats nothing

[thorny olive]

100m low for 1670?

[final storm]

Its a Blade on Aegir G1

[thorny olive]

Idk, I don't play nm

[final storm]

well he could be full event gems

who knows

[uncut dirge]

After thinking about the gems change some more: I'm not as annoyed about it

It will mainly just be annoying and create useless busywork

But you can effectively swap gems between two characters on the same roster

If you run 6x of the same class you could bind main's gems and buy one extra set for alts

Supports in particular won't be affected because people will overlook that

But I think it's going to just be really annoying

[thorny olive]

Yes thats a thing though, a lot more shit gem alts because they can't use their nice gems on alts anymore

[uncut dirge]

Particularly if people who switch them between characters of different classes once per week

Because they might have to reroll the gems every week

Doesn't cost anything, but will just be annoying

[thorny olive]

It's like 7d cool down to unbind or 100 bc / gem

[uncut dirge]

It'll also lead to "sorry I can't play with you because my gems are on cooldown"

[uncut dirge]

Yes which makes it possible to share 1 set of gems between two characters

It will just be annoying

[final storm]

If you have to swap the gems just dont bind them

its not that big of a deal

[thorny olive]

How? By paying?

[uncut dirge]

The loss in gatekeeping and power is likely too big tho

[thorny olive]

Yeah, gatekeeping though by petty people

[uncut dirge]

Week 1:

• Wednesday: Do raids on char A with unbound gems.
• Move gems to char B.
• Wednesday: Bind gems, do raids on char B.
  Week 2:
• Wednesday: do raids on char B.
• Unbind gems.
• Move gems to char A. Do raids.
  Week 3:
• Wednesday: do raids on char A.
• Unbind gems, transfer to char B.
  Etc

[thorny olive]

Oh.. but then you still have 1 with unbound xD

[final storm]

i wouldnt gatekeep base on that. Gear means barely nothing

[thorny olive]

[uncut dirge]

That's just in the first week

[queen grail]

Smh now I need to get Lv.10 gem's on my for real

[thorny olive]

Ohh, I see what u mean

You genius abuser

[final storm]

I hope your 25 is already done?!?!?!

[thorny olive]

Aly has +13 weapon and +25 armor instead

[uncut dirge]

The problem with this system is that the cooldown to unbind is 168 hours

[queen grail]

I don't even have 21

[final storm]

[uncut dirge]

So if you bind them at 7 pm on a Wednesday next time you want to unbind them as soon after 7 pm too

[final storm]

https://tenor.com/view/angry-mad-waving-brush-little-girl-baby-gif-17492145

[queen grail]

I pitied 18 19 and 21 on wep (I'm at 99,8% for 21 so It's a pity)

[peak loom]

I think the changes are a big W for ppl who play 6 different classes

[uncut dirge]

Otherwise the cooldown is going to start creeping later into the week

Of course you could reset it when it gets too far by just running one week with unbound gems

[final storm]

Big W? not really they are Ok for them

[uncut dirge]

The other thing you could do is

[thorny olive]

Oh, I can't send uwu links

[uncut dirge]

Only bind a number of gems

Keep the others unbound

[peak loom]

They won't need to buy new gews for their alts

[uncut dirge]

Somebody was doing math that

[heavy mist]

it is

[uncut dirge]

On a 6 char roster what you do is

You get 5 level 7 gems in each char and bind them

[thorny olive]

@final storm my aya

[uncut dirge]

And then share around 6 level 9 gems

[final storm]

I was thinking about if this is you, then i saw the Weapon Quality

[uncut dirge]

And it'll be cheaper than running full level 8s on 6 chara

[thorny olive]

XD you love my weapon quality

[vocal pollen]

believe arna said that there was a link to meter on the site or something, so links from it got nuked

[thorny olive]

I see

[peak loom]

Best way to beat this gem changes is to be a whale and buy lv 10 for every character

[neon cedar]

Is true

[final storm]

Kinda juicy ngl, can i burrow you for my WS Brel HM runs?

[thorny olive]

Am stolen

[limber salmon]

How about 2/2/2 roster is? My plan is mixing core gem to tradable and fller t be bond on each others

[fresh flint]

@slender sky Do I continue raids or do chaos dungeons now

[thorny olive]

Need another high mid ring and high ear ring :(

[steep mortar]

Well ima just bind my gems and enjoy the little bit ill catch up in DMG.

[thorny olive]

But it's good progress

[queen grail]

Where is the love for dps?

[thorny olive]

Sorry, game said you don't get extra shields

It's not really important lines anyway, very miniscule

[queen grail]

[steep mortar]

Actually with the base Ap change what would be the new threshhold to still make a t3 gem worthwhile. Like 30%?

[thorny olive]

Still need to fix some of my elixirs

[kind oriole]

Well finally i will can play only 2 chars

[uncut dirge]

I think if the system ends up working as described

[slender sky]

chaos

[uncut dirge]

People will get more annoyed at it since people will be sharing gems more, not less

And it'll feel like bad qol

[queen grail]

[thorny olive]

Cuuute

[queen grail]

my acc's are banger on my main too.

[uncut dirge]

+20 weapon? Whale

[queen grail]

[thorny olive]

[queen grail]

[thorny olive]

It works

[swift tree]

@burnt tree I did it

[final storm]

WTF

[nova garden]

[vocal pollen]

grats, what's the last thing missing? 👀

[queen grail]

Listen, I bought a set when I hit 1680 and never bought anything new

[swift tree]

field boss food

[final storm]

Add dmg pants? UM

[vocal pollen]

ahh

[thorny olive]

I can see that

[queen grail]

What's wrong with that.

[final storm]

Crit Dmg is way better

esp with add dmg on neck and such

[queen grail]

[vocal pollen]

doesn't that depend on the class?

[queen grail]

Depends on class + I doubt It's WAY better

[final storm]

the more add dmg you have on other things the less value they have

[thorny olive]

My WD (FI)

[queen grail]

You're also playing FI

Yuck.

[final storm]

yeah but there are like 3 classes or so who take add dmg above crit dmg

[thorny olive]

FI cute

[steep mortar]

I mean its the right choice.

[final storm]

ESO way nicer OBV

[thorny olive]

Based

[steep mortar]

Arcana and SS had some really stupid crit dmg modifiers on skills from what i remember.

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/hehehe-ghehe-reptile-laughing-gif-gif-26223253

[thorny olive]

It also depends on how much you get from different sources

[final storm]

yeah + Crit WS and WF Aero have so much crit dmg that add dmg is better too

[thorny olive]

But in general crit dmg

[thorny olive]

[lunar hedge]

I want to reconfirm if WF aero is a lot more speedy after the balance patch

Since identity gives ASMS+

[final storm]

same speed

you where capped before balance patch already

its just diffrently spread now

[steep mortar]

True forgot my Wf Aero😆. Even Sk on Fi has some 150% but nothing on anything else aside from the side Note which makes it still worthwhile.

[thorny olive]

WD has the most cursed stats

[limber salmon]

My ss use 20 stab status than kbw. it more affected but since is more dmg with bird and T skill exclude tripod cdm on snipe and other core skill . Im still use that stab status engrving than kbw null.

[lunar hedge]

I feel like I'm dishing out skills back to back much more smoothly on Wf Aero

And not all clunky clutter

[thorny olive]

Yes the class feels smoother

[thorny olive]

Yeah, noticed

[lunar hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/spin-record-cat-gif-21749933

[vocal pollen]

I REALLY like the shield notification change with WF

[thorny olive]

Ye, it's great

[vocal pollen]

before I would just no brain use both shield generators back to back

[steep mortar]

I underestimated how nice Sun Shower is as a gainer Skill. Still in the process to change my muscle memory though.

[vocal pollen]

now i'll actually member to alternate

[queen grail]

At least my Is a bit better

[thorny olive]

[slender sky]

@fresh flint fk it ill slack chaoses today, warzone made me eepy

[queen grail]

But elixir's are

[lunar hedge]

What the hell

[thorny olive]

Heals

[lunar hedge]

[limber salmon]

If aero has massve change? Like sound of striker when the orb got 16?

[steep mortar]

Noice

[queen grail]

Listen, my elixir luck is not a thing.

[lunar hedge]

Aly is not cooking

[queen grail]

I think I get one 5/5 per 150 Elixir on average

[final storm]

i´ve seen worse

[thorny olive]

Me too

There's not enough free elixirs for me to want to sit and try cut a bunch

[steep mortar]

Bunch of small changes that form a nice package. And thankfuly X is a blue skill now. My OCD was at its limits.

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/karina-aespa-aespa-next-level-next-level-studio-choom-gif-22642591

[limber salmon]

Didnt notice the aero outside the balance dmg up, ima search on yutub rn, sound like good

[lunar hedge]

Aero getting the buff it has been asked for a while

We are so back

[steep mortar]

You can run SSB now. Mass increase also became an option. Skill Animation delay on X not fucking you over makes it much smoother to use.

[limber salmon]

Wildsoul x aero best part with a smol in 1 party, grab some artist then

[steep mortar]

If you min max your stats depending on your progression with books etc. You could gain a lot more dmg than just the pve DMG buff + the Qol.

Drizzle T also became insanely fast and Rainstorm and Strong Wind way better for building.

[thorny olive]

A smol

[slender sky]

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-jarvis-skill-issue-skill-issue-gif-24471438

[limber salmon]

Smol group. Needed 1 other soon after mom paly

[thorny olive]

Smol cute Aya party

[lunar hedge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1320289157758713917.webp?size=128&animated=true

[swift tree]

[vocal pollen]

uno mas

[fresh flint]

yeah thats me rn, power went out and i dont feel like launching game anymoar

[lunar hedge]

One more time

[swift tree]

[thorny olive]

4 Assassin's
4 F Martial Artist
2 M Martial Artist
2* Female Warrior
4 Male Warrior
4 Mages
1 Female gunner
4 Male Gunners
3 Specialists

Missing a specialist

[vocal pollen]

I want female sharpshooter 😦

[lunar hedge]

Where male sorc

[thorny olive]

Yeah missing At least 1 female gunner

[swift tree]

I want male shadowhunter

[vocal pollen]

0 male assassins

[queen grail]

Next class after FemPaladin is Specialist Female Assassin

[thorny olive]

[swift tree]

next one is male aero bet

[wicked blade]

I hope not

They need to fuck off with kid classes

[vocal pollen]

but I just made a female Aero

[swift tree]

Male aeromancer, but they're from the north island

[slender sky]

based af

[vocal pollen]

[lunar hedge]

Not the homegrown potato classes

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1320289157758713917.webp?size=128&animated=true

[queen grail]

who cares, It's a short class, but they are cool

[thorny olive]

Male warriors?

[wicked blade]

Normal people do.

[thorny olive]

They are cute 🥺

[queen grail]

Normal people don't make a big deal out of a short class in a video game Weirdo.

[lunar hedge]

But they are pretty cute and adorable

[wicked blade]

Respectfully, your opinion should not be considered on this

[lunar hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/charge-smash-cat-bite-charge-smash-cat-bite-gif-15342273195042263536

[wicked blade]

I guess, but idk

[queen grail]

Why not? Since I play 15 classes all different ones?

[wicked blade]

For girls to play it, sure

For grown up guys, yeah no

[thorny olive]

Girls class

[wicked blade]

or full mute

[tulip charm]

i am missing one of these by alot

[queen grail]

You're the one that's being weird about it, It's just a game.

https://tenor.com/view/hockey-only-game-bryzgalov-anahe-gif-8306971

[steep mortar]

I like my little children. But please treat them as such. Dont do some weird shit and put them in bikinis or something.

[thorny olive]

DO NOT THE AYA

[wicked blade]

[thorny olive]

Bikini skins are awful on specialist

[lunar hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/ayaya-saturated-triggered-scream-lol-gif-16437115

[vocal pollen]

Forced to play ayaya cause I wanna play weather and art characters

[steep mortar]

Yet the actual weirdos try their best

[queen grail]

Sir Raven, why are you on this text, do you disagree with the bikini line?

[wicked blade]

You forgot about God awful macros on Artists, didn't u? @steep mortar

[thorny olive]

The worst are when they dye it skin colored

[wicked blade]

I don't, those people are weirdos

And should be locked.

[lunar hedge]

I started my ayaya journey when I saw there was a painter class and I'm like hell yeah something original! But now I'm a supporting

[thorny olive]

You're a supportive Aya

[lunar hedge]

I'm a supportive

[wicked blade]

Man, Lost Ark community is on fire

[lunar hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/ayaya-saturated-triggered-scream-lol-gif-16437115

[wicked blade]

Everyone dooming

[steep mortar]

No i didnt. The worst ive seen is "Eat the creampie daddy" from an Artist. I hope whoever that was stepps on a Lego every single day.

[fresh flint]

Power out again. But this time it’s not turning back on…

[wicked blade]

I had worse encounters with those sick mf

[thorny olive]

[lunar hedge]

Where cinder

[fresh flint]

Destroying my bedroom

[vocal pollen]

When I returned and saw they added aero and artist those were first two chars I made cause weather skills and art skills, then people just trash talk cause ayaya

[lunar hedge]

Good

[fresh flint]

Frick you don’t encourage it

[lunar hedge]

[wicked blade]

[thorny olive]

[vocal pollen]

[queen grail]

That's what you get, I bet you didn't give him a kiss

[fresh flint]

I just did actually

[queen grail]

[fresh flint]

He keeps trying to steal my pancake

[wicked blade]

Let him scratch and destroy all of your stuff

Go cinder go

[thorny olive]

Should share

[wicked blade]

Power cord is there

[limber salmon]

Talking about Kids conversation is crazy thing

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-our-now-gif-21036569

You mean our pancake.

[wicked blade]

?

Yeah that edit made it... 0.0001% clearer what u wanted to say

[limber salmon]

Hahahahah.

[fresh flint]

Dis fat fucker

[wicked blade]

He wants to eat your soul

[fresh flint]

I’ll let him

[vocal pollen]

[queen grail]

Look at that face, pure terror and evil.

[fresh flint]

[slender sky]

just call it a day fk it

[lunar hedge]

:cinderCaught:

[lunar hedge]

[queen grail]

For Crimes against humanity and 🥞

[thorny olive]

[tulip charm]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-wait-im-goated-pineapple-gif-1866711197257641569

[uncut dirge]

wait

didn't they say KR is getting character-bound gold?

and they're also getting character-bound gems

[queen grail]

[limber salmon]

After i got stuck on hard to do kurzan front entry now is server entry. Fk

[thorny olive]

Cinder if Chris continues abusing his cat https://youtube.com/shorts/roNCpxTM6PM

@queen grail

@slender sky

[queen grail]

I've seen that, Poor kitty, luckily It was saved

[neon cedar]

I really suck at casting classes but the times I do play well are so fun

[tulip charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7sIQ1UrbXY&ab_channel=GugaFoods

this is edible?

[thorny olive]

Yus

[fresh flint]

That’s exactly what I’m doing

[fresh flint]

LMAO I LOVE THIS

[vocal pollen]

hmm...

a lot of the people I see saying they got banned are saying it happened during G2 Aegir

[neon cedar]

People who get banned say a lot of things

[vocal pollen]

true

I just find it weird that they're all saying it happened mid raid, in that specific gate

[neon cedar]

But who is "theyre all"? Is it 2 people or 20?

[vocal pollen]

i've seen ~5 or so, so far

[neon cedar]

Idk, I guess I personally dont put much stock in ban claims

[queen grail]

[neon cedar]

Ive been listening to the boy cry wolf for 30 years

[vocal pollen]

Yeah, that's fair

Like, obviously, most of them aren't innocent

just weirdge that they're all using a particular gate as an excuse for what they were doing

igiveup

[tulip charm]

what happened?

[vocal pollen]

banwave

[tulip charm]

really? dosn't look like it

[vocal pollen]

[tulip charm]

i thought if they banwaved it would be back down to like 10k

it still says 22k right now

[uncut dirge]

Yo this current director is the same guy that was in charge of raids from Clown onwards, right?

[queen grail]

https://youtu.be/kHwpS0LakeU?si=nSTOzoC_KcxQB91i @neon cedar I'm reporting you to the cops

[neon cedar]

He's finally doing it

[queen grail]

wut.

What's this?

[neon cedar]

Saints sh contest

[vocal pollen]

gl

[queen grail]

Goodluck.

I should have joined

[vocal pollen]

is there a prize for winning? 😮

[neon cedar]

Im just happy itll be over tbh. my hype to try and win is 2 months over

[vocal pollen]

odamn

[queen grail]

Money

RMT

[neon cedar]

Conveniently he's done almost 20 a day right after I told him to cancel it and stop leading people on

[queen grail]

What's this, flow was toxic to poor little saint?

[vocal pollen]

[neon cedar]

Yea, a little

Dont host a competition and ignore it for 2 months then say "idk" when people ask when hes gonna finish it

This was almost 30 days ago

[queen grail]

Was there a timeframe when he started hosting it?

But ye, should be more clear on time and whatnot.

[neon cedar]

Yes

Then 4 delays because "im lazy"

Then radio silence for a month after declaring he'd finish

[queen grail]

[neon cedar]

1 tap

[queen grail]

Don't have more red stones

[thorn basin]

gems are going up again

[neon cedar]

buy buy buy

[queen grail]

I'm not buying red's

I'm waiting.

I'll hone it after a raid or something.

[neon cedar]

buybuybuy!!!

You could be 1 tapping 22 right now

[queen grail]

Bruh, that's a 1680 Summoner

But I see how she was so close

Expected more books but still juicy char.

[vocal pollen]

only 10 Adrenaline

shurely f2p

😏

[queen grail]

Casual 7mil(?) in 3 gem's too

And 30 Earth set

[vocal pollen]

[queen grail]

I don't even have 24

[vocal pollen]

fuck, was going to hone my Aero more, but ran out of fusions

[tulip charm]

shhh shhh shhh....

shhhhhh

[steep mortar]

I have to pug like 1-2 Brels a week and by now people are like check cards for lightning Set. Meanwhile i dont even have it 18

[queen grail]

What? People check cards? I've never noticed that.

[steep mortar]

I think they mean it more as a reminder in raid. Particularly sups if they run the lighting sup set.

I sit there with full Luterra and Valtan. Echidna at 3, Brel at 2, Nine and Thaemine 1... dont you worry my Rotten Akkan is awakened 5 though😆

[final sable]

interesting, my alt acc got banned for botting behavior after doing a aegir nm

[meager hill]

all the real players are in hm aegir and above, so clearly nm aegir is full of bots

frfr

[final sable]

it has a 1680 pally on in

[meager hill]

I hate that I've been using "frfr" for a while now, albeit in an ironic manner

[final sable]

makes me not even wanna paly the game

considering i play the alt acc the same way i play my main

[fresh sapphire]

Hello, I made a new character with some powerpack that I apparently had, said I'd get some good gear and such. It put me into the tutorial and it only allowed me to choose the Slayer spec, is this normal or have I done something wrong?

[neon cedar]

Slayer is the only class for female warrior

[nova garden]

for now

[fresh sapphire]

smh game sexist

I thought gender was only cosmetic

[neon cedar]

Not in Korean mmos

[final sable]

and the bot detection also sucks

[nova garden]

i see that this is your first korean mmo

[fresh sapphire]

Yes it is

Well I played BDO a good while back

Did I do a blunder

[vocal pollen]

well, do you want to play Slayer?

[fresh sapphire]

[vocal pollen]

you used the powerpass, so you gotta have a boosted slayer

[neon cedar]

Only if you really hate slayer. There is only 1 free powerpass for now

[fresh sapphire]

I wanted to play warrior and be female, I have no idea how the specs are

[steep mortar]

Well Slayer does fit that bill.

[neon cedar]

Well, you can watch YouTube videos to see what the class is like. Maxroll has super general class pros and cons. Lostark.nexus has class build guides

[fresh sapphire]

the berserk sized sword does look badass tho

Well I'm sure it won't be the end all be all

I assume I need to make a new character if I wanna try any of the other specs?

[steep mortar]

Predator is more like just smash Button. Punisher is burst focused. (Those are the two specs for Slayer)

[vocal pollen]

well

it's moreso

they're different classes, just the same base character model

and then each class has two diff "Specs"

slayer is the class for female warrior, the only one for now

Predator and Punisher are the two "specs"

[fresh sapphire]

I see

Is Female Warrior rather new then?

[vocal pollen]

Slayers been around a bit i think

there will be female Paladin later this year at some point

[fresh sapphire]

Alr just wondering since people said it's the only class "for now", so I assumed it's rather new and more classes will be applied to it at some point

[vocal pollen]

the last one was a class for the Specialist character

[fresh sapphire]

It was really funny scrolling through all the badass characters and then I see a child with a paint brush

[steep mortar]

It is relatively speaking newer than most, but by now around for quite some time.

[queen grail]

Time to go click twice on this acc thing and get 2x Add/Out Leg hits 4sure 4 sure

[steep mortar]

You can have the weirdest shit if you want to. Berzerkers have weapon skins, that are hot dogs or pizza slices😆

[queen grail]

You saying a Painter can't be a badass?

[neon cedar]

[queen grail]

[neon cedar]

I said it

[steep mortar]

There is also that one Sorc running around in EU that just has ALL the neon colours and patterns. Including in the face. It does... not look very pleasent.

[fresh sapphire]

I've heard this game can be very gatekeepy and people just take others with the highest account level, is there also gatekeeping based on your class/spec?

[fresh sapphire]

yes exactly

[neon cedar]

People gatekeep on anything

[fresh sapphire]

yeah but I've heard this game can be particularly bad

[neon cedar]

Every class has a synergy. Something like more damage for the group, better Crit chance, boss defense down

People might pick you for that

Or your card set

[queen grail]

Any game with a raiding scene will be like that, but there are ways to mitigate it.

[neon cedar]

Or you char skin

Anything and everything

[steep mortar]

In my experience less so on the class by now. But some have a better or worse reputation.

[neon cedar]

Sometimes there are 10 people in similar gear applying and they just take the one nieche thing that appeals to them

[fresh sapphire]

That makes sense, what does slayer provide?

[queen grail]

Big tits.

[fresh sapphire]

well shit you've convinced me

[steep mortar]

The most Basic one. Just flat DMG.

[neon cedar]

Shes 6% damage I think

[fresh sapphire]

Sounds like you still want one

Does the effect stack?

[steep mortar]

And huge boobas.

[neon cedar]

No, ideally you have a gruop made of different synergys

[queen grail]

This is what Slayer bring.

[neon cedar]

Diff classes & builds benefit more from different synergys

[fresh sapphire]

I definitely didn't bring female warrior for the...cough intro screen

[neon cedar]

My class has 100% crit and the way it works, a crit syn is 100% useless. But a sorceress has low crit so they really want it

[steep mortar]

It is so common that it is less sought after.

[queen grail]

Slayer's are like any "pure" dps, if geared Nice.

[fresh sapphire]

I mean I love this game so far

combat feels great

[final sable]

playerbase kinda toxic

tho

[queen grail]

There was non on market, surely I'll sell it for way over normal @neon cedar

[fresh sapphire]

I come from wow I'm used to it

[neon cedar]

ill give you 5k

[queen grail]

Go buy the set, only 550k

[steep mortar]

Honestly just play what you enjoy though. If you are just trying to please other people or chase meta you are less likely to continue to have fun and overcome the annoying bits the game sadly has.

[neon cedar]

I only have 5k. Its a good deal, i swear

[queen grail]

I need money I just wasted some.

[fresh sapphire]

So do I just need to finish the intro tutorial before I get boosted

[neon cedar]

tutorial is optional to do, there are like 5 tutoriaal step things

you can skip or do them

[fresh sapphire]

ok I'm just about to finish the intro island

with the hidden treasure

[queen grail]

https://tenor.com/view/tiny-text-cant-see-ken-jeong-gif-5957945

[final sable]

if u cant see that ur oldge

[final sable]

[fresh sapphire]

https://tenor.com/view/tv-simpsons-cloud-fist-grandpa-gif-12082744756246344299

ok I found this, do I just open them all

[neon cedar]

?quickstart

[tawny gate]

Quickstart Resources

Class Selection Advice Guide

Beginner & Returner's Guide

Ark Passive System Guide

T3 Gear Progression Guide by Icy058

Maxroll Beginner Class Guides

Ask for questions and help in #lost-ark-help. (Check pins!)
Also check #1113635777004445768 and #guides-and-info for updated resources organized.
Consider reading #lao-faq and #navigation if you are brand new to the discord.
Our #new-player-tips covers an overview of the main components of Lost Ark.

[neon cedar]

2nd link will have an inventory guide

[fresh sapphire]

ty

[queen grail]

@neon cedar

[queen grail]

I can see, I have 20/20 Vision It's still small, like something els from you AYO!

[final sable]

yes i know reaper glow is smol

dont need to rub it in

[fresh sapphire]

If I skip adventurer's path do I still get the rewards from it

[neon cedar]

No

The rewards arnt meaningful. but if you want em you have to do em

[fresh sapphire]

I'll just complete it to get a sense of the story

[queen grail]

@neon cedar

[neon cedar]

I have 20 diff characters

[queen grail]

Same same, just 15 tho

[neon cedar]

All in bedge trying to sleep

[queen grail]

I should be sleeping.

But, my rythm is fooked.

I've given up.

[fresh sapphire]

both

[queen grail]

@neon cedar @fresh flint

[final sable]

6x same class but 1 on each account

[glossy bane]

Just play support and dont care about any changes

[swift tree]

Just play support and tap your weapon an extra +1

same benefit

[glossy bane]

Man so many lobbies have bound gems supports or lv. 5 gems like as if that change does anything for supports xD

[swift tree]

my 2 paladins have event gems on both that are Tier 4, I can swap some out so they'd just go from 7/6s to 6s/5s

[queen grail]

Rested Guardian.

Where is loot?

[swift tree]

It's tier 4

the "loot" is monetized

[queen grail]

Give me loot.

[swift tree]

So yeah, Karma just kinda eats gold huh

[queen grail]

Oh ye

Karma is a true bitch.

I've maxed 1 char (almost 2)

And ye... It's not fun.

Also, leveling up Evo feels so trash.

It's wild they didn't give us something more there

[simple fiber]

what are these bots doing in mail?

[glossy bane]

send u gold

[brisk torrent]

besides cube are there any good ways to earn lvls quickly?

[tulip charm]

go to empire discord and ask them

[fresh sapphire]

Is there a guide for cards somewhere? I've got 1x legendary card pack IV and 4x epic card pack II and no idea what to do with them or what to pick

[shadow wagon]

just open them no need to think about it

[tiny sage]

How we lack sup in agrgir norm into lacking so many dps in 1 month

[fresh sapphire]

Just pick one at random?

[queen grail]

Hmm, I'd maybe try and go for the ones with most light of salvation cards, there might be some more familiar with "the new start of the game" over at #lost-ark-help tho

[fresh sapphire]

Relentless Pack 1 seems to have all cards for light of salvation

Is that like a bonus?

[queen grail]

Light of salvation, or more known as "Los" is the meta card for most raids (tho, new set's will come and right now we also need another one) but If I'm not wrong Los is still pretty much the defacto main set to get first.

[worldly hawk]

@fresh sapphire

if you want LoS cards you open Relentless 1 or Sprit 1

[fresh sapphire]

[safe lark]

https://tenor.com/view/helicopter-cat-helicopter-cat-heliblo-gif-15685012791631344513

[fresh sapphire]

fricc are these

[somber charm]

after los is finished, what would you recommend a casual/returner to open ?

[queen grail]

Cubes.

just save for now.

You get gem's and silver & honing juice frrom doing them.

[fresh sapphire]

[queen grail]

I'd at least save until I could use them a higher up

[fresh sapphire]

I've also got a bunch of processed chaos stone for wep and armor

I assume I save until better gear than the 1560 stuff I've got?

[vocal pollen]

you should've gotten 1585 w/ powerpass

[fresh sapphire]

1585 ye my mistake

[low nebula]

fck db

[vocal pollen]

quality transfers over

so can just use em

[fresh sapphire]

ig I'm gonna read as much as I can on nexus

also the game gave me options for which armor I wanted when I made my character where is that

[tall mango]

It's a preview. It doesn't give it to you

[fresh sapphire]

Noticing that the builds on Maxroll vs on Nexus are different

[vocal pollen]

nexus better, imo

[fresh sapphire]

Maybe I'm looking at raid vs dungeon build?

[fresh sapphire]

[vocal pollen]

would follow nexus ones

[fresh sapphire]

Oki

[vocal pollen]

Sir, you still have 2 hours

[fresh sapphire]

Don't see anything that isn't for chaos dungeon

[vocal pollen]

😼

remember how we said earlier

Predator vs Punishment?

that's the "specs"

[fresh sapphire]

Ye

Going with predator

Assumed there'd be different builds depending on chaos dungeon vs abyssal raids etc

[vocal pollen]

well yes

Chaos dungeons are absolute faceroll

so you just have a build with all the aoe in the world

the predator / punishment builds are the "st / raid" builds

[fresh sapphire]

Ooh okay

When do I get to pick a spec anyways?

[vocal pollen]

press p -> ark passive -> check 2nd tab

[worldly hawk]

if you just want the new cards wishful, if you want only Earth DPS set Relentless 2 if you want only Earth support, Spirit 2

i would just open wishful because you need them all

[vocal pollen]

thats punishment vs predator

or w/e they're called

never played a slayer

[worldly hawk]

don't use maxroll guides they are ass

[midnight light]

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[fresh sapphire]

what if I'm an ass guy

[worldly hawk]

[fresh sapphire]

don't kink shame

[worldly hawk]

[fresh sapphire]

can I only pick predator vs punisher at a later level?

I'm only level 60 rn

[vocal pollen]

you... you linked the page where you pick

[worldly hawk]

left is punisher, right is predetor

[vocal pollen]

that talent tree is your "spec choice"

[fresh sapphire]

Oooh

like this right

[worldly hawk]

[fresh sapphire]

ty

noob moment

will be many like that

which spec is more meta rn?

[vocal pollen]

don't worry about meta imo

look at which sounds more fun

[fresh sapphire]

[worldly hawk]

don't metachase

[vocal pollen]

this game is more about how well you can use your hands

than say, WoW

[worldly hawk]

balance patches happen frequently and meta changes alot

just play whats fun

[fresh sapphire]

ye but since I've never played anything I don't have a grasp on what's fun and what isn't

so I kinda just go with what's stronger

[vocal pollen]

even if you play the best class, if you aren't having fun, and just can't play well, then you'll do bad

[fresh sapphire]

a good player on a non-meta class > a bad player on a meta class

[worldly hawk]

a good player will outdps you ALWAYS if you play shit on a meta class

hands > strong class

[modest ravine]

Play ew deadeye 🗣️ 🔥