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#Project S-812
sturdy void
was gonna say the file had some effort sounds too
unique hill
my computer is killin gitself, I will not be able to do that
sturdy void
l o l
unique hill
smh my head
sturdy void
we should start a kickstarter purely for a new computer for you to not suck
unique hill
its like the wireless display is having a SEIZURE bro
sturdy void
invest in a hdmi cable please
sturdy void
sometimes it becomes worse
works
unique hill
win ctrl shift b
wtf did you just make me d
sturdy void
works and worse are very different nether
unique hill
do
unique hill
ohhh what
unique hill
there was one time
i was tryna watch a yt video right
a casual normal video
suddenly the quality drops
so much so that the display only has blobs of colour with nothing else
its so random like it has a personality disorder
unique hill
I just realized I forgot to show yall the advanced lensflares
its been here for like weeks and I never showed it
recently upgraded to 4.3dev3, its new performance optimizations allows me to finally re-enable screen space reflections as a graphics option
without worrying about performance
sturdy void
56 seems like a weird framerate to get consistantly
unique hill
56 seems like a weird framerate to get consistantly
hq shaders really fuck with my frames
frail tendon
I saw the discussion above, this seems pretty good I haven’t tried it yet though https://github.com/nathanhoad/godot_input_helper?tab=MIT-1-ov-file
unique hill
I saw the discussion above, this seems pretty good I haven’t tried it yet though...
oooh, interesting
ty for this, will check it out
unique hill
whats everyone here go-to genre of indie game to play?
humble blaze
Not a genre but I do love indie games that allow for a lot of player freedom and interaction with their environments. That kind of stuff scratches a very specific itch that keeps me hooked on a game
unique hill
Not a genre but I do love indie games that allow for a lot of player freedom and...
ooh interesting
unique hill
Not a genre but I do love indie games that allow for a lot of player freedom and...
by freedom and interaction, it includes being able to use a piece of bread to shatter glass?
humble blaze
YES
humble blaze
Perfect.
unique hill
Not a genre but I do love indie games that allow for a lot of player freedom and...
should most of the interactions actually be there for gameplay, or just for fun?
humble blaze
Well it can be half and half. I think good gameplay derives from interactivity with meaning behind it but sometimes you can just add certain things for the fun of it. I'm sure players would appreciate it
Would tread carefully on the wacky aspect if you truly care about immersion
unique hill
Would tread carefully on the wacky aspect if you truly care about immersion
alrighty
sturdy void
by freedom and interaction, it includes being able to use a piece of bread to sh...
can we make the bread the revolving plotpoint of our spinoff game or sequel we are 100% making for project s
unique hill
can we make the bread the revolving plotpoint of our spinoff game or sequel we a...
maybe
unique hill
sorry for the extreme slow down in stuff sent here
im working on story stuff and levels
- getting the some members of the team a little more experienced in godot
sturdy void
little is an overstatement lmfao
tepid rapids
hahaha yeah, it's a lot to onboard sometimes. but once you do. ...
unique hill
little is an overstatement lmfao
the timezone differences are crazy
not to mention the schedule differences
restive goblet
It all looks so great, do you made model and graphic from blender?
unique hill
It all looks so great, do you made model and graphic from blender?
ooh, this is quite an old photo you linked back to, but otherwise yeah
all 3D models are made in blender and imported into godot
the textures are made in a variety of different art softwares
unique hill
working on a cutscene system
been quite a while since I actually sent progress here
unique hill
Or what exactly does your system do?
essentially that
the only thing it really does is change the flags of the player so that it cant move, and interpolates the camera transforms
otherwise, all actual animation work is done with an AnimationPlayer
unique hill
the protagonist's hoodie
(actual final model)
its been through like 15 different iterations
and I like how this last one ended up
unique hill
why so curvy
cloth sims are horrific 😭
sturdy void
cloth sims are horrific 😭
your laptop is horrific
unique hill
your laptop is horrific
im poor
unique hill
what is google collab
unique hill
essentially a free gpu vps for code runnint
yeah but I already have a delay on my monitor, if I used that or some other similar thing, id have a bigger delay
plus I dont need to render anything
& we dont need actual cloth sims yet
sturdy void
yeah but I already have a delay on my monitor, if I used that or some other simi...
its not windows you dont have access
there are ways for you to use it purely for power and rendering
unique hill
https://hotcocoastudios.discowd.com/MyJZfIl9jt.mp4
aw man the elevator is out of order
sturdy void
is content shown final
unique hill
is content shown final
nah
legally I could completely go the other way and make this a shooter game
iron shore
legally I could completely go the other way and make this a shooter game
"legally"
unique hill
it's not illegal to change the content of a game without that notice haha
i know
vast citrus
legally I could completely go the other way and make this a shooter game
what's stopping you
tepid rapids
bre
ad
unique hill
what's stopping you
dont wanna
vast citrus
Shooter but only thing you're shooting is pictures
unique hill
Shooter but only thing you're shooting is pictures
fumoshooter but simpler
vast citrus
Grabaj moment
sturdy void
I need to add steps to the game
no you need to write the story suri thenetherpug.
tepid rapids
step code >:O
i think you'd be fine using ramp colliders but it kinda Sucks to place those manually, so on to the land of stairsteppy with u
i dont think you will need a level of accuracy with it that slamfire demands though, so i think it won't be as bad for ya
just holler if u want resources
unique hill
just holler if u want resources
alrighty
im currently procrastinating on making stairstepping
just tryna make gameplay more consistent
and feel better for now
tepid rapids
yep, I'm feeling the same balancing out combat this morning myself a bit more
unique hill
i think you'd be fine using ramp colliders but it kinda Sucks to place those man...
honestly ive avoided stair stepping for 2 reasons, one of which is kind of devestating but may have an easy fix that i just dont know
- bit hard to implement
- the IK on the protagonist's rig is so messed up and bends his knees backwards whenever I try to implement IK to the feet
and i cant simply make a new rig because then ill need to remake the carefully tweaked animations
probably a very easy fix somewhere but I havent yet found it
tepid rapids
Magnets
and trust me I feel you on point one
as good as mine is it still isn't perfect and there's still situations that you'll kind of stop dead on and that's not what should happen so I have to go back and rewrite my entire move-in slide approach anyway too
But since you're using Godot's move and slide You may be able to shortcut some things
the gist is basically
step up the stair height and attempt a slide move from that position
then go back down and do the step if we're still within a step range
temp set the player pos to +step height, literally do move and slide forward and see where it hits
slide off the wall and correct if needed (this is where i'm going wrong, mid-stair check wall slide)
then check back down
if all that's good do the step
unique hill
temp set the player pos to +step height, literally do move and slide forward and...
ohhh very interesting
also HUH
I never knew Quake III just had it's source code
there
like for everyone
thats crazy
ill start making an implementation like the one u described above
tepid rapids
oh friend
q1-3 and Many More are now on gh, for you to look at and understrand
id just did that a decade ago it's great
how do you think i wrote my game's movement :D
unique hill
how do you think i wrote my game's movement :D
severe amounts of trial and error while having half life 1 opened on a second monitor as a reference
sturdy void
im currently procrastinating on making stairstepping
just make the protag climb up stairs like an animal on all 4s
tepid rapids
severe amounts of trial and error while having half life 1 opened on a second mo...
nope :3 it was with that codebase above
unique hill
just make the protag climb up stairs like an animal on all 4s
unironically this might work for a character
sturdy void
...security bots
sturdy void
fuck.
unique hill
although there could be a variant of them
sturdy void
that was gonna be fun
unique hill
that maybe could like
sturdy void
i wanted to do the mocap for them bc of that :<
unique hill
chase you down on all fours or sum
unique hill
i wanted to do the mocap for them bc of that :<
the mocap???
i dont think the rigs are built for that
sturdy void
you originally wanted to use rokoko didn't you
unique hill
surely if it has a skeleton it will work
i tested it b4 and it was quite wacky
severely so
but we could use videos as a reference for animations tbh
sturdy void
asbestos
unique hill
turns out
the rig's knees
specifically for the left leg
were rotated ever so slightly
and they also had no bends
i fixed that I might be able to make IK work now :O
unique hill
I broke it somehow and now Default Blend Time is at 0.2 but it blends really fast and I dont know how to fix it 💀
unique hill
glitchy stair stepping system, but its getting there!
Its not extremely long either! :D
sturdy void
thats what she said
iron shore
✨
civic sedge
unique hill
https://hotcocoastudios.discowd.com/qlizvGLOVf.mp4
working on a very basic dynamic sound system
buoyant lake
https://hotcocoastudios.discowd.com/eG4dDB3cc6.mp4
hey i wanted to ask did you manage to make it smoother
cause rn im having the same issue haha
unique hill
hey i wanted to ask did you manage to make it smoother
I use move_and_slide() as the main way of calculating motion in my game, so if you instead use move_and_collide(), there may be a large difference in how it will work for you
But basically, I just used lerp()
I lerped the global position from the old position to the new position
buoyant lake
i did try lerping but the way my thing goes is this way let me show you the code
unique hill
the code I wrote is horribly easy and probably inefficient but works for me
ill send it here, its not much lines
unique hill
i did try lerping but the way my thing goes is this way let me show you the code
oh alr
buoyant lake
this is basically my going down function
and i call it after move_and_slide
and this is my going up im using seperation on a collision node 3d
unique hill
interesting
unique hill
the way I did it didn't use any raycasts or shapecasts at all
buoyant lake
it works a bit janky on trying to go on corners but its decent
buoyant lake
the way I did it didn't use any raycasts or shapecasts at all
oh mind if i see it
unique hill
it works a bit janky on trying to go on corners but its decent
same lol
unique hill
oh mind if i see it
sure
buoyant lake
if its better then this i hope i can make it work
buoyant lake
explain away
unique hill
basically, when you impact on a wall, the players position is cached and it sends the player upwards by a fixed value, then moves them forward slightly using move_and_collide(). If the player can move, and doesnt get interrupted by a wall, then its a step and the player steps up, else the player's original position is restored
unique hill
but doesnt it cause issues when walking into walls
nope, since the original position is cached, its only testing for steps of a height lower than the set value
if the player comes into contact with an actual wall
unique hill
the player would collide and their position would be restored
buoyant lake
now i def wanna see it
unique hill
for going down, if the player's y velocity is above 3, it caches the player position and snaps the player downwards a tad bit, if the player comes into contact with the floor then bam, else their position is restored
buoyant lake
and give it a try
unique hill
func handle_stair_step() -> void:
if velocity.y <= -3 or justjumped or !input_dir: return
if STATE == "FALLING":
var prev_pos: Vector3 = global_position
var collision = move_and_collide(Vector3(0.0, -MAXSTEPHEIGHT * 2.0, 0.0), false, 0.001, true)
if !collision:
global_position = prev_pos
return
velocity.y = -1
var new_pos: Vector3 = global_position
global_position = lerp(prev_pos, new_pos, clamp(0.3 + SPEED / 8, 0.3, 0.98))
SPEED = clamp(SPEED, 0.0, 6.0)
return
if is_on_wall() and is_on_floor():
var prev_pos: Vector3 = global_position
global_position.y += 0.5
var collision = move_and_collide(calculate_direction(input_dir) * 0.15, false, 0.001, true)
if collision:
global_position = prev_pos
return
snap_to_floor()
move_and_slide()
var new_pos: Vector3 = global_position
global_position.y = lerp(prev_pos.y, new_pos.y, clamp(0.45 + SPEED / 18, 0.2, 0.98))
return
I lerp by SPEED so that its a bit smoother, but you dont need to do all that
you can change the lerp to a fixed value and do away with the state
if STATE == "FALLING" can be replaced with if !is_on_floor()
it all depends on what game youre making tbh
but this is the general idea
buoyant lake
mine is mostly a ps1 style fps game with some modern elements here and there just to tell a story
unique hill
```swift
func handle_stair_step() -> void:
if velocity.y <= -3 or justjumped...
this isnt the absolute best way to make this by the way
unique hill
mine is mostly a ps1 style fps game with some modern elements here and there jus...
ooh neat
unique hill
btw where do you call the function after that
handle_stair_step() is just always called in _physics_process(), or where ever the player loop is
unique hill
for me, i have all the logic in _physics_process()
buoyant lake
a lot of identifier errors haha
unique hill
a lot of identifier errors haha
lol, it just needs some tweaking to fit your game
but the basic idea is the same
unique hill
I should send a video of how it looks now, as the older video of the stairstepping didnt have the smoothening
buoyant lake
id love to see it too
unique hill
what is justjumped for you
oh thats just a variable that becomes true if the player jumps, and false if the player is on the ground
buoyant lake
ah ok
unborn vale
Idk if this helps, but form what I've heard that most games handle it by checking for a position in front, then checking if the wall in front is below a certain height (the max step height) and if it is, they offset the y value by a step value (Some people lerp the camera between old and new position to smooth the step out a little) and the to make sure people stay on the step they move them like a tiny tiny amount forwards
unique hill
https://hotcocoastudios.discowd.com/pErSa9QJYp.mp4
its not perfect by any means, and the smoothening does have some work still left to be put into it, but it works for now and thats what matters
buoyant lake
input_dir is vector3.ZEro right
unborn vale
https://hotcocoastudios.discowd.com/pErSa9QJYp.mp4
its not perfect by any means...
I mean this looks pretty good
buoyant lake
yeah its nice
works with the headbob as well
also what is STATE supposed to be as a var
unique hill
input_dir is vector3.ZEro right
input_dir is a variable outside of _physics_process that is set to the player's input direction inside of _physics_process
buoyant lake
oh
unique hill
so its actually a Vector2
unique hill
also what is STATE supposed to be as a var
you might not need state
you can replace if STATE == "FALLING" to just if not is_on_floor()
unique hill
I mean this looks pretty good
ty :D
unique hill
works with the headbob as well
ty
buoyant lake
how much did you set your maxstep height if i can ask
unique hill
how much did you set your maxstep height if i can ask
Its just set to 0.2
I shouldve included that, my bad
unique hill
callculate dir is mising as a func
oh sorry completely forgot all that
give me a sec
buoyant lake
no problem
you are a saint and im glad i found something that could probably work
since i have been on about it for two days
unique hill
##// Calculates the direction for velocity using a Vector2 with a local position
func calculate_direction(dir:Vector2 = Vector2(0.0, -1.0)) -> Vector3:
return (transform.basis * Vector3(dir.x, 0, dir.y)).normalized()
This is just that one string of math that is in every first person character controller,
and snap_to_floor() is very basic as well
func snap_to_floor() -> void:
print("snap_to_floor() called")
velocity.x = 0
velocity.z = 0
velocity.y = -0.5
for i in 1000:
if is_on_floor(): break
move_and_slide()
velocity.y = 0
return
sometimes I forget these functions aren't built into godot just because of how often I use them
lol
unique hill
well bad news it didint work
oof
buoyant lake
thats how i tweaked it
i changed inputdir directly to verctor2.zero
and made speed to my current_speed
unique hill
i changed inputdir directly to verctor2.zero
that wouldn't work, since we're depending on a variable rather than a type
buoyant lake
ohhh
unique hill
Vector2.ZERO by itself isnt a variable, its just a property
its kinda like saying
if true:
maybe remove that vector2.zero part alltogether
buoyant lake
so i just make a var input_dir = vector2.zero
unique hill
so i just make a var input_dir = vector2.zero
nah I think it might be able to be removed and not mess the code up
buoyant lake
lets see
so i removed it lets see how it runs
ok front movement works side to side and back one dont and its not smooth at all
unique hill
ok front movement works side to side and back one dont and its not smooth at all
change the lerp values from the clamp to just
0.6 or 0.5
or maybe tweak a bit of the values
buoyant lake
like that
you know i think your code might be a bit more buggy for me
cause while testing it out
at some point it stopped working
so i might go back to the one i had
and see if i cn figure out a way to lerp it
thanks either way
i might see if i can use your code to do the lerping
unique hill
thanks either way
no problem
buoyant lake
i just cant figure for the life of me how to do it
unique hill
I have to go so I may not be able to help much more with the code since I wouldnt be near the computer with the code o n it
buoyant lake
its fine thanks either way
unique hill
i just cant figure for the life of me how to do it
what if you use my code as a base and my explaination as a reference, then maybe code something similar
maybe that would help
unique hill
its fine thanks either way
no problem, I hope you manage to get it working
stair stepping is truly a pain in the behind
buoyant lake
what if you use my code as a base and my explaination as a reference, then maybe...
i might use some parts of it such as reading the old and new pos
and then lerping them but ill have to see how it goes
and im glad that im not the only one suffering with this
gl and hope you can make yours better
unique hill
and im glad that im not the only one suffering with this
lord have mercy on what @tepid rapids went through to get their stair stepping system
buoyant lake
what happened
unique hill
their game requires a different movement system that move_and_slide() can't provide, meaning she had to go the extra mile with programming movement related things
unique hill
they've got a cool game, #1186438445434929172, you should check it out
buoyant lake
oh it looks awesome
mine will be more fully 3d so hopefully it goes well
i wanted to get stairs and ladders done so that i can start making basic maps and figure the other things out along the way
buoyant lake
so kidna good news
i think i found a solution
thats nothing to do with the player character but the camera
found this code
which makes the camera smoother if you set the tager to a parent of the camera
and i think it makes it a lot more smoother
buoyant lake
just put this in the camera and give it a target
i just hope it isnt my imagination
buoyant lake
OMG I PERFECTED IT WITH MY CODE
if you want i can explain it to you and see if it works for you as well
i get no stuttering when walking and dont get stuck on stairs
unique hill
OMG I PERFECTED IT WITH MY CODE
hell yeah! Nice!
unique hill
if you want i can explain it to you and see if it works for you as well
I think I know the general idea of how it works, thanks for the offer tho!
im focusing more on sound design and animation right now, so the step smoothening isnt top priority
buoyant lake
so my code works fine the way it is it seemed as if my landing animation was casing some issues so i removed it and it works now . also the camera works great it feels smooth and realistic
so yeah gl with that
now i can move on atleast
vast citrus
POG
tepid rapids
their game requires a different movement system that `move_and_slide()` can't pr...
ehehehei yeah i found out actually how this might be circumvented but it feels so fuckin weird to do things in retrospect
unique hill
ehehehei yeah i found out actually how this might be circumvented but it feels s...
lmao
guys I got a DAW!!
tepid rapids
because it's like a for slide in get last slide collision so a thing
but yah might be doable
unique hill
GONE are the days of MINDLESSLY copying and pasting notes
tepid rapids
yooo
unique hill
now I can use ✨PATTERNS✨
tepid rapids
daws are useful
unique hill
daws are useful
hell yeah
iron shore
https://hotcocoastudios.discowd.com/qlizvGLOVf.mp4
working on a very basic dyna...
the level takes place in a huge ass warehouse though
shouldn't it always echo?
unique hill
shouldn't it always echo?
it should
but that might be a bit distracting for players imo
sturdy void
just get good lmao
unique hill
I accidentally severely messed up my game
spent the past 3 hours debugging with no resolution, ended up having to open a github issue
if anyone can take a read and shed some light that would be very much appreciated
hallow basalt
Another reason to avoid epic games
unique hill
Another reason to avoid epic games
😭
unique hill
fixed it 👍
hallow basalt
What was the solution?
tepid rapids
YO
SHARE
i wanna know how this saga ended even though i don't ever expect to be affected
unique hill
i wanna know how this saga ended even though i don't ever expect to be affected
its the dumbest shit
it started with me deleting epic games
I fixed that first part by reinstalling epic games and installing VulkanSDK to reset registry keys
tepid rapids
i recall that and then reinstalling the SDK
unique hill
the outline shader issue?
tepid rapids
but then you had something with the tokenizer
unique hill
I accidentally deleted half of it in the chaos of epic games
i literally just needed to repaste the code
unique hill
😭
tepid rapids
😂 well at least it didn't require godot engine fixes i guess so it isn't the worst
so, you're back up and running i hope?
unique hill
so, you're back up and running i hope?
hell yeah
tepid rapids
woohoo!!
unique hill
what im doing right now is revamping the UI
then ill move onto pondering
and after pondering ill start making levels again
tepid rapids
great stuff 🔥
yeah i gotta set up more UI proper, but with the command system in place parsing GD script I almost can't imagine this will be hard at aLL
good luck with ya work today!
unique hill
good luck with ya work today!
ty
unique hill
https://hotcocoastudios.discowd.com/NnNGkIiOwq.mp4
menu revamp so far
Its got a lot of bugs
the options menu does need an entire rewrite but I really dont want to do that right now
hallow basalt
https://hotcocoastudios.discowd.com/NnNGkIiOwq.mp4
menu revamp so far
YOU CAN CHOOSE AN UPSCALER??
i thought you were tied to fsr 2.2 only
unique hill
i thought you were tied to fsr 2.2 only
nope!
In godot's project settings you can change it, which means you can also change it with code and hence in-game
really nice
sturdy void
forgot we had a twitter account
gib the pass
unique hill
not project S related but rate this render I made
unique hill
What exactly to rate?
idk just some feedback
kinda training myself for the larger environments that are seen in project S
vast citrus
kinda training myself for the larger environments that are seen in project S
how the FL*P wait nvm i asked this question before
vast citrus
not project S related but rate this render I made
add some fog in the distance
unborn vale
not project S related but rate this render I made
Looks good, the sand might need a kuttke nire texture tho
unique hill
post when twitter is active
wdym
what is when twitter is active
I dont use twitter on the daily man
this is probably the only like 3 times ive ever used twitter
sturdy void
its just more active at those times in any area on average
unborn vale
That is far
unique hill
That is far
true
unique hill
That is far
its only that far because I cant find a source-like skybox system for godot
so my skybox has to actually be gigantic
unborn vale
I mean that is fine if it's still just a cube right?
unique hill
I mean that is fine if it's still just a cube right?
wdym
unique hill
It can be really large, if it's just a cube since that's still only 12 triangles
true
but for more complex backgrounds
having a source-like projection skybox may work better tbh
humble blaze
so my skybox has to *actually* be gigantic
Why not render the skybox in a different viewport and just have your environment link to that viewport?
Having the mesh be gigantic and your far plane set to an absurd value just seems... absurd
unique hill
Why not render the skybox in a different viewport and just have your environment...
ohhh yeah that makes sense ngl
it may add an extra overhead though, not sure
humble blaze
I promise it'll make things way easier for you
unique hill
last time I used a separate viewport it did impact frames quite a bit
the issue is overlaying the forgeround to the backdrp
humble blaze
There should be minimal overhead depending on how you arrange it. Environment resources have a sky mode that should let you link up a viewport or canvas layer iirc
May have to sacrifice some post processing stuff, dunno, but the viewport method would save a lot of headache and could also lead to more performance if you reconfigure your far plane afterwards
It's just spit balling though. If what you're doing works and causes you minimal issues then theres no need to change it
unique hill
honestly it might be kinda cool to boundary break and just see that the entire environment is fully modeled and full scale
debating whether to send a screenshot of the environment that caused me to set it to that absurd value
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
imma send it
humble blaze
Fuck man that looks really good
unique hill
Fuck man that looks really good
ty :D
minor sleet
how do you get godot to look so good??????
unique hill
how do you get godot to look so good??????
experimenting ALOT
most of the post processing I use are found on godotshaders.com
which helps me out greatly, but everything else is handcrafted by me and the other team members
tepid rapids
omg that far distance
bro i use 300 😭
yeah, I'll show you some stuff tomorrow
creative mapping can completely fix that; i would highly advise it
one approach i use at times is a shader material with depth pushed way out and then the maps just inside that cube or i apply that texture to the top of the inside of the 'room'
granted mine is MAD low but a few K is probably all ya really need
unique hill
yeah, I'll show you some stuff tomorrow
creative mapping can completely fix tha...
i dont know how to make textures like that 😅
I really would just like a source-type implementationin godot
unique hill
Twitter
daring geyser
garlic bread 😎
unique hill
I dont think I realistically could finish decorating and prototyping a level within a normal timeframe at this current moment
so I might just send a video of gameplay later in a prototype level instead to get some public feedback
icy anchor
I really would just like a source-type implementationin godot
If you'd ever have to deal with Source's 3D skybox, you'd probably understand why i kinda hate it lol
But still would be interested to see what you'd do with it
unique hill
If you'd ever have to deal with Source's 3D skybox, you'd probably understand wh...
i honestly just dont want to need to zoom out a crazy amount just to see the changes I made on a large collection of meshes
unique hill
this is so big its almost at godot's limit for sizes
the biggest mesh's size is at something around either 500,000 or 5,000,000
now that I think about it, I probably shouldve used a HDRI for this one
unique hill
working on a dynamic level loading system
just gotta finish that and all the tools needed for making levels would be complete :D
its based off of this system but modified to work with a triggerbox area rather than distance from the centre
unique hill
dynamic loading has a pesky bug that isnt fixing itself for some reason 😔
icy anchor
its based off of this system but modified to work with a triggerbox area rather ...
It's definitely going to greatly optimize your game especially if you have interiors... Damn, it makes me remember of "Interior World" of GTA San Andreas, basically that has interiors floating infinitely far in the skies, they have something like that system that would unload the main world if you enter the interior one (still a bunch of triggers). If you also make it change the world environment's settings, you can even make interiors stand-out in visual terms with no issue
icy anchor
dynamic loading has a pesky bug that isnt fixing itself for some reason 😔
I'd love to know details, maybe that's something i had to deal with before (no guarantees btw)
unique hill
I'd love to know details, maybe that's something i had to deal with before (no g...
I honestly don't even know the proper cause myself
I may release that code open source
iron shore
I may release that code open source
do it all !!! :))))
icy anchor
I may release that code open source
Sure thing i'd take a look, if you want, i can post LocationChunk code here in case if that'd be helpful for you
iron shore
nether do you need dynamic loading though?
unique hill
nether do you need dynamic loading though?
i was coding that
ur supposed to be doing control menu
iron shore
microoptimizations don't do anything
unique hill
and rigid body items 😭
icy anchor
unique hill
It isnt micro
I plan to have detailed levels
so it would need to load and unload chnks
unique hill
just hide the items if player far away right?
no, some objects still do processing
so with the way I did it
iron shore
the processing is nothing
unique hill
It removes them / adds them into the scene tree
unique hill
the processing is nothing
rigid bodies, npcs, shaders, lots of stuff
iron shore
It removes them / adds them into the scene tree
more laggy than the objects themselves looks like
icy anchor
just hide the items if player far away right?
Physics is still an issue btw
iron shore
how many items have physics nether
icy anchor
how many items have physics nether
Static collisions
unique hill
none because u didnt make the rigid body items yet 😔
unique hill
Static collisions
o yeah that makes sense
iron shore
what if you just hide them and disable process and collisions
icy anchor
what if you just hide them and disable process and collisions
Wouldn't that turn into chunk system?
unique hill
what if you just hide them and disable process and collisions
thats basically what removing from the scene tree does
I took all the advantages/disadvantages intoa ccount already
iron shore
thats basically what removing from the scene tree does
removing from scene tree is more clunky
unique hill
I tested it before as well, and it is worth it for large levels
iron shore
can you measure which is faster
unique hill
removing from scene tree is more clunky
godot recommends to do chunking this way according to the documentation
iron shore
the documentation is very crappy at the moment
unique hill
can you measure which is faster
It would naturally be the method im describing now but fancy
I still have things left to do in regards to it
iron shore
It would naturally be the method im describing now but fancy
you need to reinstantiate everything
very slow unless you preload everything (very not nice)
unique hill
you need to reinstantiate everything
no...?
this is a matter of just using remove_child() and add_child()?
theres no queue_free() or instantiate() being used in this system
iron shore
where are they saved
unique hill
where are they saved
check out the code
assets/tools/nodes/map/triggerbox/sectionloader.gd
iron shore
I'm outside lmao
unique hill
extends Area3D
class_name SectionLoader
@export var to_load: Node
@export var to_unload: Node
var load_parent: Node
var unload_parent: Node
var load_path: NodePath
var unload_path: NodePath
func _ready():
if to_load: load_parent = to_load.get_parent(); load_path = to_load.get_path()
if to_unload: unload_parent = to_unload.get_parent(); unload_path = to_unload.get_path()
func _process(delta: float) -> void:
if has_overlapping_bodies():
if to_load:
if to_load.is_inside_tree(): load_parent.remove_child(to_load)
if to_unload:
if !to_unload.is_inside_tree(): unload_parent.add_child(to_unload)
return
if to_load:
if !to_load.is_inside_tree(): load_parent.add_child(to_load)
if to_unload:
if to_unload.is_inside_tree(): unload_parent.remove_child(to_unload)
im honestly not sure of a good method of doing this to be honest
I think this is the best I can do at this current time
if theres a better method, please tell me
i need to get more technical knowledge of godot
this method appears to be worth it for large levels
as sections can be loaded/unloaded
theyre still in memory but theyre not being processed
smaller levels this wouldnt be worth it
icy anchor
you need to reinstantiate everything
The fun thing is that you don't
Once you've instantiated your node, you can add it to scene tree, it's 2 different operations. _ready is going to run only once if you add this node to your scene tree for very first time. You can also not add it at all. Or you can remove it from scene tree to save processing time on everything with just writing a little bunch of code. It is worth it and i highly recommend TNP to pay more attention on making it work as it is not that hard to get it working and it can be very beneficial for the potential future scale of the game
TL;DR; There is no need to instance it as it is already instanced
unique hill
Once you've instantiated your node, you can add it to scene tree, it's 2 differe...
^ much better than I wouldve explained it 💀
vast citrus
wait you guys know how to load chunks
unique hill
wait you guys know how to load chunks
i dont think our system would work for your world generation to be honest
ur one looks absolutely gigantic and looks like it takes 4gb of ram
unique hill
wait you guys know how to load chunks
but ye we kinda know how to "load" chunks
6*
unique hill
for some ungodly reason
the loader system I designed just
deletes half of the map?
for no apparent reason?
icy anchor
for no apparent reason?
Which node have you assigned in there?
unique hill
Which node have you assigned in there?
im actually stupid
I forgot I had a node set to unload the rest of the map
unique hill
lol you read fast
i really meant to ask:
how good is the average itch.io player at first person games
i wanna know the kinda skill level of my target audience
gray spade
lol you read fast
(i had discord open and am subscribed to this thread, so it was really just a notification click away)
unique hill
I reckon its relatively good but still
unique hill
(i had discord open and am subscribed to this thread, so it was really just a no...
oh neat
unique hill
FINALLY DID IT
Dynamic loading is now actually GOOD
one step closer to having a full level toolset
Will send a demonstration video later
icy anchor
Dynamic loading is now actually GOOD
I hope i helped a little
unique hill
I hope i helped a little
!!
it made me realize my utter stupidity whilst coding from seeing your version
I could probably make something better though
1s
unique hill
I hope i helped a little
extends Area3D
class_name SectionLoader
@export var to_load: Node
@export var to_unload: Node
var load_parent: Node
var unload_parent: Node
var load_path: NodePath
var unload_path: NodePath
func _ready():
if to_load: load_parent = to_load.get_parent(); load_path = to_load.get_path()
if to_unload: unload_parent = to_unload.get_parent(); unload_path = to_unload.get_path()
@export var only_activate_on_enter: bool = false
func _process(delta: float) -> void:
if has_overlapping_bodies():
if to_load:
if to_load.is_inside_tree(): load_parent.remove_child(to_load)
if to_unload:
if !to_unload.is_inside_tree(): unload_parent.add_child(to_unload)
return
if only_activate_on_enter: return
if to_load:
if !to_load.is_inside_tree(): load_parent.add_child(to_load)
if to_unload:
if to_unload.is_inside_tree(): unload_parent.remove_child(to_unload)
this is what I made
icy anchor
```py
extends Area3D
class_name SectionLoader
@export var to_load: Node
@export ...
Yay!
unique hill
works seamlessly
will send a video shortly, im making a quick demo level
demo video (player model hidden)
in the video im going in and out of the tunnel
unique hill
ok so
section loading is a bit odd
so ill leave it only to large areas of maps
so smaller maps wont be using it
unique hill
turns out my pc is absolutely horrendous
@sturdy void exported the GLB map within 5 seconds
for the first warehouse level
thats so crazy
sturdy void
im so good at everything ong
unique hill
im so good at everything ong
my p[c just almost crashed trying to edit the level in blender
blender just crashed
ffs
sturdy void
lmaooooooo
unique hill
this is why im gona learn maya
dont do this to yourself
unique hill
I probably shouldnt have waited until I finished a level to test if the workflow was even viable
I dont think thisll work
but atleast I have a prototype level to build off of
or something
i dunno
ill try a thingy and see if itll work
gray spade
so true
sturdy void
i just realised knowing what this is meant to be, what psychopathic engineer or architect would design snd and approve this
unique hill
i just realised knowing what this is meant to be, what psychopathic engineer or ...
its efficient 👍
unique hill
i just realised knowing what this is meant to be, what psychopathic engineer or ...
imagine the conversation for this
as well as the fact that there are multiple of these
timid flume
man I hate the part where I have to add content to the game
Adding content ❌ ... Making tools to add said content ✅
sturdy void
tinkercad >>>
fusion >>>>>>>>>
unique hill
Adding content ❌ ... Making tools to add said content ✅
so true
unique hill
first level basically complete, now im trying to formulate the background of the level before I go to finalizing the level with props and actually good lighting
this lighting is pretty good as is ngl
iron shore
first level basically complete, now im trying to formulate the background of the...
i can help with textures
unique hill
i can help with textures
alrighty
ill dm u with textures I need
since you have nothing you need to program right now
besides the control menu
iron shore
# besides the control menu
never!
unique hill
starting to make props
unique hill
bump to prevent death
sturdy void
no, bump because bump is a fun word
civic sedge
High Labs.inc
unique hill
High Labs.inc
lol
vast citrus
what the FL*P
iron shore
what the FL*P
lmaooo the asterisk
sturdy void
oh sick you get a notification if you participate
unique hill
I was bored yesterday, so i decided to model how the warehouse will look from the outside
it looks small here
because it is, the model is small
but in-universe (idk if im going to actually use the model), this would be as big as a mountain
mountain for scale
Im thinking this warehouse wouldbe inside of a mountain
overlooking the city below
with like, a beaten up dirt track leading to the city
kinda something like this
(im horrific at sculpting things)
iron shore
what do u all think
should not be brown
vast citrus
good game design
sturdy void
bread
vast citrus
no ones gonna notic dw
unique hill
making a source-inspired prop system
https://hotcocoastudios.discowd.com/iwyL9kRGxt.mp4
vast citrus
half life 2?
gray spade
it's hl3 just don't tell anyone
unique hill
~~it's hl3 just don't tell anyone~~
hl3 using godot 💀
civic sedge
GMod 2 confirmed?!
iron shore
*does not* spawn in-game
visibility layer?
sturdy void
👀
i mean
you were talking about how a lot of valve games were just adopted indie or mod projects
sooo
unique hill
it finally spawned !!
unborn vale
it finally spawned !!
What was the problem?
unborn vale
if it works it works!
unique hill
true
unborn vale
That's at least what I try to convince myself when I look at this line: rock.apply_central_impulse(Vector3(0.0, 0.0, -15.0).rotated(Vector3.UP, get_child(0).camera.rotation.y).rotated(Vector3.RIGHT, -get_child(0).camera.rotation.x)))
iron shore
That's at least what I try to convince myself when I look at this line: `rock.ap...
bajeebis christ
unique hill
That's at least what I try to convince myself when I look at this line: `rock.ap...
have mercy on the future maintainers 😭
trying to make a dynamic world
so most props would be interactable
also with unique interactions
so if you like, mess with a janitor bot
they stare at you
with a confused emotion
unborn vale
trying to make a dynamic world
Can I throw the table and chairs?
unique hill
Can I throw the table and chairs?
yes
and the side character of the game will scold you for messing up the neatly packed away chairs
iron shore
have mercy on the future maintainers 😭
you're one to talk
sturdy void
and the side character of the game will scold you for messing up the neatly pack...
@spark sparrow is gonna hate us for making ona do this many lines lmfao
spark sparrow
<@825507401683566662> is gonna hate us for making ona do this many lines lmfao
i'm chill w it actually
i mean there's a reason i was chosen for the role
unique hill
you're one to talk
😭
unique hill
<@825507401683566662> is gonna hate us for making ona do this many lines lmfao
im vibin
i only have like, 8 lines or something probably
dark drum
have mercy on the future maintainers 😭
how did you make that outline shader? is it a post-process or you need to apply it to every model?
btw i love the artstyle pretty cool, too bad m pc would turn to a nuclear bomb if i try running your game
unique hill
how did you make that outline shader? is it a post-process or you need to apply ...
Ah, I didn't actually make it. It's just a shader from godotshaders.com
https://godotshaders.com/shader/high-quality-post-process-outline/
The way it works ( from my understanding ) is that it uses a quad mesh in order to sample the depth texture and normals, then for each pixel, checks the values for adjacent pixels in the textures, and if its a certain threshold then it makes that pixel an outline
unique hill
btw i love the artstyle pretty cool, too bad m pc would turn to a nuclear bomb i...
ty! My pc is actually a low-end laptop, so im forced to over-optimize things, it may actually end up running pretty well for you
dark drum
oh no you don't get it, trust me it "low" end
unique hill
how did you make that outline shader? is it a post-process or you need to apply ...
its post process which uses a singular quad mesh, with an insane cull margin.
this is because (for some reason) the depth texture and similar textures are only available for Spatial shaders
unique hill
oh no you don't get it, trust me it "low" end
ohhh alright 💀
dark drum
what's you graphics card?
unique hill
for me, I have
8gb of ram
Intel i5 9300H
Nvidia GTX 1650
the cpu and gpu are decent but the 8gb of ram is sad 😭
unique hill
a gtx is low end?!
low-ish end
unique hill
im running on a gt710💀
yikes
dark drum
yea unless i feel suicidal i'm not turning on your game, but i 'll probably buy it just for the support
unique hill
This game abuses VoxelGI (which runs on the GPU) for lighting because lightmaps don't work on my pc too well
I dont think itll run with a good framerate at all for you 😭
unique hill
yea unless i feel suicidal i'm not turning on your game, but i 'll probably buy ...
our target audience are lower-spec gamers, so ill be really interested if it actually runs
the difference between default settings and lowest settings isnt that bad in this game
the difference between default and maximum is a large leap though
i cant even run max settings decently 😭
unique hill
ye!
before we release more info on the game we're trying to finish up atleast the first chapter
content addition hell 😔
dark drum
o great, keep it up i come back every once in a while to check on this project
iron shore
got a name for it yet?
it's called "smart"
dark drum
honestly i was expecting the game's name to be an acronym for something
iron shore
honestly i was expecting the game's name to be an acronym for something
SMART: sexy meatballs are really tall
the game is based around meatballs
sturdy void
honestly i was expecting the game's name to be an acronym for something
we should do this
come up with what the name can stand for
unique hill
come up with what the name can stand for
??
that might work but I doubt since the name is just one word
iron shore
that *might* work but I doubt since the name is just one word
the name is SMART
easy to acronymize
unique hill
no
sturdy void
dude i sent a suggestion in the groupchat 💀
dark drum
what's the game about? im not that good with coming up with names but who knows maybe me or someone else come up with a good example
unique hill
what's the game about? im not that good with coming up with names but who knows ...
we already have a name down for the game, the game's details in regards to gameplay hasnt been revealed yet
until we have a decent portion of the game down already
vast citrus
you can do this with ALL of the bodies?
unborn vale
https://fxtwitter.com/HotCocoaDev/status/1773422317386813685
Just a quick check, if you are gonna have a lot of movable objects, are you using godot jolt?
unique hill
Just a quick check, if you are gonna have a lot of movable objects, are you usin...
nope, although I really should
I havent seen a performance drop yet so i dont know
Jolt breaks the actual gameplay of the game
iron shore
I havent seen a performance drop yet so i dont know
i have
iron shore
interesting
esp while moving chairs through thecafeteria
unique hill
happy easter everyone!
unborn vale
happy easter everyone!
You too!
unique hill
quack
gray spade
why these "bread" and "quack" twitter posts though?
iron shore
why these "bread" and "quack" twitter posts though?
breadpog
quack is a mystery
for now
unique hill
why these "bread" and "quack" twitter posts though?
quack
unique hill
quack
iron shore
quack
unique hill
quack
unborn vale
Stop quacking, you are waking up the kittens >:(
unique hill
Stop quacking, you are waking up the kittens >:(
soft quack
gray spade
Stop quacking, you are waking up the kittens >:(
questioning quack?
unique hill
quack
gray spade
relieved quack
unique hill
quack!!
sturdy void
quack
unique hill
quack
spark sparrow
quack
unique hill
quack
gray spade
meow
unique hill
quack
sturdy void
quack
civic sedge
[Spam comment about Ducks]
unique hill
quack
unique hill
civic sedge
Seriously, what will the video game be like and what will it be about?
unique hill
Seriously, what will the video game be like and what will it be about?
Project S-812 is a game set in the future, slightly story driven and with lots of jokes
gameplay video would be sent very soon
but for now
quack
civic sedge
Project S-812 is a game set in the future, slightly story driven and with lots o...
a "Quack" for you too! tqm
unique hill
a "Quack" for you too! tqm
quack!
unique hill
we at Hot Cocoa Studios decided that we wanted to put a short and fun lil game out there, and theres no better way to do that than through a gamejam!
So, for this month's One Game a Month jam, we're making Quackventure
a puzzle game about a hexagonal duck travelling across dimensions with their only goal being to eat all the bread they can find!
Come check it out at #1227344475458764894
don't worry, we're still hard at work on this game as well, we just wanted to make a different and short lil game
gray spade
so that's the reason behind these quacks
unique hill
so that's the reason behind these quacks
indeed
unique hill
Then we can continue saying Quack! until we get bored?
quack!
updates about quackventure are in a separate thread
#1227344475458764894
incase anyones wondering
unique hill
bump to prevent death
sturdy void
defib
unique hill
defib 💀
civic sedge
bifed
sturdy void
p[eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeel
weary parrot
Path nodes!
unique hill
Path nodes!
path nodes! :O
unborn vale
Bread?
unique hill
we now have a discord server!
https://discord.gg/qMddztYumZ
unique hill
Quackventure has officially released! #1234506930735808715
dark drum
hey a question out of the blue but what do you guys use to organize your ideas for the game? like I've seen people with charts and text, like a blueprint of what they want to do
iron shore
hey a question out of the blue but what do you guys use to organize your ideas f...
no
the answer is no
dark drum
you don't organize?
iron shore
lmao
dark drum
i take it that's a yes
iron shore
i take it that's a yes
correct
dark drum
still i thought with a game this developed and you guys are a team i thought you had like a plan or something like that
i mean hey if it works for you than all good
iron shore
still i thought with a game this developed and you guys are a team i thought you...
nether's been solo for very long
we have a gc and pins but there are so many pins that that has no significance
dark drum
oh
ye if you think about it a group chat it kinda like a history tracker
and each of you would be announcing what they've changed
iron shore
we have a github repo obviously
dark drum
ye but you might forget to write down some of the changes in a commit
iron shore
the group chat is deranged though it's all memes
iron shore
ye but you might forget to write down some of the changes in a commit
that's fair
dark drum
i asked because i started working on my dream game and after a long while i realized im going to screw it up with this current knowledge i posses so I started on a smaller project, one that is manageable for one dude and when i watched videos they all say to plan out what to do
reading this again makes realize how stupid i am
iron shore
i asked because i started working on my dream game and after a long while i real...
i rarely finish games alone; I don't like working by myself at all
my advice is to keep your code neat, modular, and not have one script digging in the guts of another
iron shore
reading this again makes realize how stupid i am
don't say that! everyone needs time to learn
iron shore
my advice is to keep your code neat, modular, and not have one script digging in...
use enums and name your variables well ;)
dark drum
coding isn't really the problem for me, i actually enjoy it and modeling, it's the dreaded texturing and the art style that haunts me, if your game looked ass next to none will play it, look at your game for an example the visuals alone are pretty inviting for me and a lot of people here
iron shore
coding isn't really the problem for me, i actually enjoy it and modeling, it's t...
teamwork makes the dream work
looking at our game, we also have 5 artists
dark drum
i thought you were only three?
unique hill
i thought you were only three?
we are a team of 6 members of different skills
any one person in our team usually has multiple skills
so you would have a texture artist that can also compose music
or a 3d modeller that also programs
most of us are artists in some way 💀
sturdy void
we are kinda organized sometimes
BAHAHAHHAHAHAAHA
sturdy void
most of us are artists in some way 💀
you can say that about anything though
anything is art if you can explain it well enough
unique hill
you can say that about anything though
fair lol
sturdy void
bump
unique hill
im doin a thingy that if proven viable will be huge for this game
that and working on our other game (quackventure) are currently the reasons why updates here has slowed down significantly
but we are still workin on this game
icy anchor
Bump
icy anchor
Bump
sturdy void
dadaskis single handedly keeping project s' thread alive
icy anchor
Bump!
iron shore
this thread = cute fame 3d in the job board
icy anchor
this thread = cute fame 3d in the job board
Job board?!
iron shore
Job board?!
#1019654979331571712!!
icy anchor
bump
upper frigate
bread
icy anchor
B U M P
gray spade
dadaskis single handedly keeping this thread alive
why did i read a different meaning here than before 
icy anchor
P M U B
icy anchor
Bump
icy anchor
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icy anchor
Bump
civic sedge
Tumbalacasamami!
icy anchor
Bump
brave dock
nice
lofty glacier
but we are still workin on this game
if i can help you in any way to improve the performance on this game, please check on my thoughts here #1142830936736669796 message
not sure if you've done any of this so far. Checked the duck game too, it's really cute 🙂
unique hill
if i can help you in any way to improve the performance on this game, please che...
Oh wow, ty for these tips
I believe this project might need an entire remake and recode to be quite honest, as I unfortunately used it as a learning experience
I did apply some of these on Quackventure
Triplanar textures may a major reason of project S's performance
lofty glacier
yeah thats a costy one
icy anchor
b
icy anchor
honestly this is getting to the point where it's spam lmao
Won't stop until update of this game! Gotta reanimate this thread!
... I mean that's what TheNetherPug did with Purger thread too
icy anchor
btw do you like my nick <:juanpanada:983650534189858866>
Lol i love it
unique hill
Won't stop until update of this game! Gotta reanimate this thread!
... I mean th...
currently were working more on quackventure rather than other projects
on the side, randomly ive started experimenting with a weird little feature which may be able to make project s actually what I envisioned it to be
dark drum
been a wee long time since i checked this project, how are things going?
icy anchor
been a wee long time since i checked this project, how are things going?
Quackventure developed instead, this project is kinda frozen, he is planning to make massive rework after Quackventure
dark drum
oh man, i hope they get back to it someday, now i have to check this quackventure
unique hill
oh man, i hope they get back to it someday, now i have to check this quackventur...
you can see our progress at#1227344475458764894
unique hill
Quackventure developed instead, this project is kinda frozen, he is planning to ...
yeah its paused for now as we focus on QV a bit more
iron shore
yeah its paused for now as we focus on QV a bit more
Hi remember this game
unique hill
hi yes
unique hill
Hi remember this game
it exists still