Firearm + Melee Weapon Suggestions and Discussion

[dusk mantle]

Don't go to the other topic man

[dusky ember]

Revolutionary war, civil war, ww1,ww2... im not discussing this anymore jeebus

Its like talking to a wall.

[dusk mantle]

Bro

We were talking about Vietnam war, But you dragged to goals of

[dusky ember]

And this?

You did that yourself

Btw id argue the 5th war was moral too (Korean war)

[dusk mantle]

Like Vietnam and Iran war aren't like these examples,

[dusky ember]

We did NOT draft for iran

Just Vietnam

[dusk mantle]

And you dragged from Vietnam to WW2 first bro

[dusky ember]

You said all drafts.

[dusk mantle]

Didn't USA have a system the forces students to went in loans and the only way to clear them out is going war because it pays enough? That's still manipulative af even if it's "Not Draft" legally

[dusky ember]

No? Where the hell are you reading

[dusk mantle]

"Most USA War"

[dusky ember]

I think you need to read more before ill continue this discussion

[dusk mantle]

Are you a Saul Goodman or sumthing?

[dusk mantle]

Where?

[dusky ember]

Not doing this anymore tonight. I've wasted enough time

[dusk mantle]

If those with families members could, the number of the dodgers would be MUCH MUCH higher.

"Why TF would conscription exists" is the question Thai people asked all the time, so much so It became a meme

[terse fog]

Gun suggestions
open
debate of draft dodging

[dusk mantle]

Lmao

[terse fog]

Can we just focus on what it was meant to be

[dusky ember]

It doesn't matter bc the draft did exist here. Dodging as your fellow countrymen go is cowardly and selfish. While I don't agree with that war is irrelevant.

Now let's keep it to guns

[dusk mantle]

"Not going to the obvious death pits like the others to generates profits for High classes and Military Shareholders is cowardly" okay... I guess, I wanna give money to my mom and persue my own things, "If you're not suffering like the others, you're bad" is the guilt tripping tactic I ain't gonna fall for

Just keep it to the guns man

[terse fog]

Dont engage either man also dont act like you didnt start it either
Just keep it what this was for

[wicked kite]

so tell me this if the cowards who dodged the draft are so smart that means your calling the soldiers who fought for not only the freedom of the US, the freedom of Europe and of Asia during ww2, but you wouldn't know that considering your country was an ally of imperial japan, and for your knowledge the reason the US entered Europe during ww2 was because after Japan's attack on Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, the US declared war on Japan, and Germany subsequently declared war on the US, so we went to war, it wasn't bout trade, it was was about politics, it was because we were dragged into it, at the time the US was because of isolationist sentiments in Congress and among the public led to the passage of the Neutrality Acts in the late 1930s. The U.S. was also benefiting economically from the war by supplying the Allied powers with materials, and joining the war would have threatened this economic stability, our military wasn't even prepared for the war, we didn't want war we were dragged into it, what are you calling soldiers who fight for your freedom today, yea you may be from Thailand but your country still has brave soldiers who fight for your freedom, I get it your anti war, but that doesn't give you the right to practically call the brave men and women who serve their countries idiots, you have no right to insult them, especially if you don't have a clue on their history or ya ain't from their country, keep your words to ya self if they only mean to insult those who served

now lets keep it to guns

[wicked kite]

He doesn't understand man, he doesn't know shit about the history of the US, he's anti war and obviously oblivious to why soldiers exist and what makes them brave

[floral wave]

[dusky ember]

Need to up the 9mm amounts in game. Its more common

Then that perk would be ok

[floral wave]

MP5's already too good, it has the damage profile of the AR
i'm just complaining about the weird flavor text that implies the players have barrel transmutation powers and that the police SMGs have shot out 9mm barrels somehow
the perk also doesn't really do anything since MP5 already has a range of 150m

[dusky ember]

Lolol. That's a fair point, alchemist skill.

[dusk mantle]

Spicy

Probably might have Mac-10 integrated as .45 ACp like the first game

[dusk mantle]

I did only talk about Vietnam war didn’t I, also I said unless it’s defensive, It’s still debatable on the context #1047174484047704204 message and there are more non-WW2 examples that US straight up lies about the details like Iraq’s war, Vietnam war, , I don’t hate the soldiers, I hate the system that exploited them and conceal USA’s war conflicts in history lessons. I wondered if there’s a reason USA’s cancelled drafting…

You also forgot to mention the jarring amount of US’ Investors supporting Nazi, while the poor soldiers were forced to died, have you ever heard of the term “Army Dreamer”?

[wicked kite]

You really have no idea, I won’t lie I know that the US has done many misdeeds, used gas and napalm in Vietnam, some major investors supported the Nazis, this is all taught in high school history books, it’s not swept under the rug like you think it is, the US is not china or Russia, we don’t hide our history, the US has openly admitted that entering Vietnam was a mistake, Iraq was invaded because of inaccurate information about WMDs being inside the country, These are well known facts in the states, once again once we make a mistake we will eventually admit to it, look at Japan they claim they didn’t do shit during ww2, soldiers in the states get free housing and free military healthcare, is it the best system no, but it’s not exploitative, it definitely needs work but that goes for all countries

[dusk mantle]

Then why didn't I see about list of warcrime mentioned from Iraq, Kent State Massacre, The Dehumanization of Vietnamese during war, Black people facing racism yet still get sent to war or Student loan being used as a tool for recruitments in modern day, Clearly these were swept under the rug as most Americans especially Pro-Military rarely talks about it...

And the crisis of US Veterans being homeless or still live 9-5 exists for a reason, They deserved better

[wicked kite]

Quite a few of those things are in history books, race segregation, multiple massacres, Kent state massacre was in my senior high school book if memory serves, and every country commits war crimes, many American soldiers who have committed said crimes have been arrested now and in the pass, fun fact the biggest group of homeless are vets, now could the government do more to help them yea, but at the same time many suffer from PTSD or get into different kinds of addictions that cause them to go homeless, it’s a sad but well known fact,

Most of the events that involve inland American history is in the American history section of high school books

[dusk mantle]

If it was well known? Why is the same mistake repeated

It's not only about "Well... we have it recorded" it's about trying to fix the underlying problem

Because the same way of recruiting Militia via Student Loans still happens even today

[dusk mantle]

The Dehumanization campaign weren't deconstruction, list of warcrime George Bush did and his Dehumanization rhetoric against Iraq

[blazing willow]

we should create a new discussion about war and all that

[dusk mantle]

I am called a bad person for being Anti-War somehow

[wicked kite]

The problem is you don’t realize that for there to be peace there sadly must be violence, it’s 2 sides of a coin, it’s yin, and yang, I agree that there are problems but to understand that these these things are sadly inevitable takes time, also for the point about racism, some people just suck and are stupid

[blazing willow]

i dont get the point of these discussions both have different opinions about x topic trying so hard to convince each other that one is right and the other is wrong , it is pointless and a waste of your time

[wicked kite]

Honestly I agree, I am sorry for debating let’s keep it to guns, that what this originally was supposed to be

[dusk mantle]

I know why war is necessary, But It shouldn't be happened in the first place, Failure to deconstruct and make it just "Oh, We F*cked up, let's just move on and keep the status quo" like MCU Heroes didn't help much

I think Kalashnikov is one of the most badass inventions

[dusk mantle]

Racism isn't just "Oh... it's just happened somehow" it's was constructed systematically to be just as a tool, which is why Red Scare and Racism on Vietnamese makes the Shoot to kill rates skyrocket compared to other wars.

Funnily enough, Black Panthers, radical Black people like TuPac Shakur and Martin Luther Kings or the only one who openly call for fairness for Asians, but they are labeled by moderates and CIA as "Dangerous Communists"... just... before they are revisioned in whitewashing colors for Moderates to feel comfortable with their privilege...

[wicked kite]

I could respond with more facts and more evidence that your incorrect but honestly I’m not here for talking about war, I game here to discuss weapons they can add to the game, I’m just going to stick to that from now on @blazing willow was right, we disagree and nothing will change that so let’s keep it to guns

[dusk mantle]

"Facts and Evidence" : Trust me and revisioned nationalist history bro

https://youtu.be/hdwQGjmRAI0 this is from the moderate history channels btw, US soldiers are trained to see vietnamese as targets and just a vermin, it's very effective and the rhetoric of dehumanizations from politician still works well, otherwise Trump wouldn't won the vote this bad and Liberals won't be so okay with bombing Palestinians.

US Vietnam Veterans are mostly trained to be killing machines and that's the fact

So "US Vietnam war heroes" are kinda morally grey overall

[wicked kite]

Some ideas for weapons
-intratec tec-9
-Glock 19
-Franchi SPAS-12
-Heckler & Koch UMP45
-FN SCAR-H
-DS Arms SA58 OSW Carbine
-sig p226
-M16A4
-Mk 18 Mod 0
-Saiga-12
-MAC-10

I’m done with the war talk, I’m not going to respond to your obvious instigations, also simple history is well known to be untrustworthy, but I am sticking to guns so believe what you want to and I will believe what I want to believe

[dusk mantle]

Sometimes the only difference between SS-officers and US army alone is the side that did it.

[dusk mantle]

Yep, SimpleHistory has so much redscare videos

https://www.npr.org/2013/01/28/169076259/anything-that-moves-civilians-and-the-vietnam-war

https://history.rutgers.edu/index.php?option=com_dropfiles&format=&task=frontfile.download&catid=211&id=281&Itemid=1000000000000

And unless you suffers from Thinned Veil Opposition, SimpleHistory ain't the only one to talks about it

https://scholarworks.brandeis.edu/esploro/outputs/journalArticle/Because-its-easier-to-kill-that/9924103489901921

https://gen.medium.com/the-u-s-militarys-long-history-of-anti-asian-dehumanization-f1a8fe320e7a

Same model with Japancese Camp, US didn't learn things since then to Vietnam's Dehumanization campaign to middle east people's dehumanizations

You tried to present these problem as "Few bad apples" despite them being systematic and intentional

[verbal temple]

Guy's wth I thought yall supposed to take ts to #🔥┃off-topic why the hell are you still arguing here 😭

[wicked kite]

I’m not anymore, I said I was done arguing, it’s obvious we won’t agree so I stopped

[verbal temple]

Yeah I know you stopped but why th is bro still yapping? 💀

[dusky ember]

He's been antagonistic and quite annoying tbh. Over it

[wicked kite]

It’s extremely annoying, he’s trying to instigate a bigger fight and I honestly just want to talk about guns now, like this post originally was supposed to be, I’m going to ignore him and everyone should as well

[verbal temple]

An HkG3 would be amazing, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FouxUoq-WW4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DyTjX9gn3z8

Same with the Mk14, could be a rare version of the m14. I honestly thought the mk14 would be more common the m14/m1a we have in game. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/2o9-tJAEre8

[wicked kite]

Oh hell yea, my favorite battle rifle is the m14, it could fit perfectly in game, the HK G3 would be extremely uncommon because the gun Is not wide spread, but the mk14 as a full automatic battle rifle would be perfect for the game

[terse fog]

Think it should rather just be a variant of the m14 with the same stats but can be able to add attachments

[wicked kite]

That I would be ok with as long as it would have the ability to switch from semi auto to full auto like the real mk14, if it was only semi auto then it would be M39

[dusky ember]

More likely to get scar h tbh

Or mr762

(417)

[dusky ember]

For reference only

[dusk mantle]

That thing would fit really well, considered that it was basically Standard DMR for Military

Also I think you're supposed to be punished for not tactical reloading magazine weapons because you drop to whole mag out.

[floral wave]

def not standard, more of a stopgap while more modern 7.62x51 platforms came online
there's a reason you don't see it after cod MWII lol

are there any weapons that do drop the mag on reload?

[dusky ember]

Stopgap. They just pulled them from storage while a proper solution was found

[dusk mantle]

Oh...

[dusky ember]

Pretty sure its all tact loads... you'd want to maintain your mags in this situation

[dusk mantle]

I'm outdated it seems

[dusky ember]

Just misinformed, it was a short time period so its understandable

[floral wave]

yea, only outlier is the Model 19 but not much you can do there without dramatically increasing the reload time

like, pop the cylinder, let unspent rounds fall from gravity, then hit the ejector, then speedloader...

well that's not too much longer

[wicked kite]

A gun I would like to suggest is the Franchi SPAS-12, it’s actually quite common with US swat teams and has been documented to be used with special forces

[dusky ember]

Lol. You're hilarious

Unless youre serious..

[wicked kite]

I’m serious, it’s my favorite shotgun, why is a bad idea

[dusky ember]

Its not common what so ever. I worked in industry for years while I went to college and taught people to shoot after as a side job... ive shot one and seen once.

No swat teams use it. At least none ive met or nteracted with members of

Its ok to say you want it in game bc its second hand cool but its not common by any means in the us. Benelli m4 is more common

With Beretta 1301 behind it

[wicked kite]

I’m from Chicago I’ve seen quite a few Chicago Police use it, though they have slowly been upgrading to the M4 Benelli, I work often with cook county PD

To be fair it was more common before the 2000’s

[floral wave]

spas is a cultural icon more than it is a good shotgun

[wicked kite]

That is very true

[dusky ember]

Id be ok with it in game but its not good. Lol

Just saying its not common

[wicked kite]

Copy that boss, I’m guessing you know more than I when it comes to guns, I know more about tanks and aircraft

[dusky ember]

I wouldn't say more, just certain subjects about small arms.

[wicked kite]

I see

[dusky ember]

I'm not a firearms professional by any means. Science sure...

[raw berry]

the one thing i hope we get as time goes on are more rare weapons with the same ammo types we already have

a spas in the back of a cop car would be cool, or a benelli
maybe some glock variations, like a full auto configuration, or like a modern 1911 variant with night sights

hell the stats dont even have to be that different, it'd just be cool/add to the realism to have some randomness in what you end up getting

like if you're looting random houses finding guns, chances are you're not gonna find the exact same stock weapon, that's my thinking

and it'd add some character to the worldbuilding, like some of the people who owned the guns you're now scavenging were more into it than others

but like i think it'd only work if the spawns were specific, if they just appear in any of the places guns can already spawn it'd be a little video gamey

idk what the current spawn system looks like behind the scenes but it seems to be pretty much fully random

[floral wave]

at the very least guns could spawn w randomized attachments
guns in pawn shops and gun stores would still be stock

[raw berry]

that would also be good but i meant like, unique weapons without attachments

like the difference between a 1911 and a kimber 1911

or the x12 and a benelli

and you'd only find the rarer variant in certain spots like the back of a cop car/swat van or certain gun lockers etc.

It's one thing to imagine people would leave their hunting weapons/home defense weapons scattered around all over the place in a zombie apocalypse but uncommon military or police guns should be in specific spots

and like special collector's weapons like fancy glocks or 1911s would be in people's homes on occasion

with nmrih1, there were a lot of cool moments that reinforced the atmosphere/worldbuilding in that game through the map design
Like a construction zone where you climb a ladder and find an angle grinder at the top
it was obviously not meant for fighting zombies but it made sense that it's just sitting up there because some worker had to run away once shit hit the fan

That's the main thing I think the devs for this game should consider

[verbal temple]

Made a suggestion about this very idea, if you have any other ideas for rare weapons feel free to post them there #1380291150270828696

[dusky ember]

Kimber? Why kimber? That's like bottom of the barrel 1911 almost lol

For this games purposes, unless they plan on adding laser sights or 2011s... the only differences in 1911s would be quality wise at that point. Or weapon mounted lights but thats pointless bc flashlight.

[floral wave]

recoil and reload speeds would be reduced with a proper 2hand grip
though atp that's more delving into how familiar the responders are with these 'John Wick' guns, which they really shouldn't be

[dusky ember]

Some should be familiar. Should either an obtainable skill or explained via training...

[dusk mantle]

Benelli M4, It's Something Big... Bold... like Jardani Jovanovich said

[astral pilot]

Framing hammers. Longer than regular hammers, with longer claws. Mean as hell.

[astral pilot]

Kimber is like that one weird thing you did back in middle school that you think back to every now and then, and you're all like, "Jeez, I was weird back then"

[dusky ember]

I mean they used to be good and are getting better... the problem child is now ceo of sig lol

[terse fog]

Pretty sure Tyrese used it in the Walking Dead or was that a Shingle hammer?

[opaque sedge]

He used a framing hammer

[wicked kite]

not wrong, the thing is one hell of a shotgun, I just like the SPAS-12 more because the thing is just legendary and its a classic, at least in my eyes it is

[opaque sedge]

I got a Benelli M4; had to put in a stopper block for the adjustable stock because California. The thing runs smooth, and mine eats any brand of shell so long as its high brass (heard Winchester Super X doesn't feed well, but mine doesnt have that issue)

[dusky ember]

They're very reliable in my experience.

Ive been thinking about getting one and putting a salvo 12 on it

For reference, thats my buddy's salvo 12

[dusk mantle]

Both is hot AF, but Benelli is more standardized and realistically easier to find in Military Reserves

[dusk mantle]

M o s s b e r g, Btw do you have Spencer Shotgun 1882?

[dusk mantle]

Dudes with deer nuts allergies when I hit em with a buckshot :

[wicked kite]

Considering that the M4 is used in 15 countries and the SPAS-12 is used in 14, not including the 2 non state users this includes both PD and Military use I’d say they are not as uncommon as many think

[dusk mantle]

Interesting.... so Both shotguns?

Let's go

[dusk mantle]

How many guns do you have as each gun types' number and networth?

[dusky ember]

No, probably could get access though?

[dusky ember]

Lolol. Enough. I'll never state.

[opaque sedge]

I got a three pistols (Beretta 92fs brigadier, S&W 1911a1, Shadow Systems MR920), two shotguns (Maverick 88, Benelli M4), and an AR (FN-15 Guardian) with an MP5-22 on the way

[dusky ember]

Ill post one picture to give you an idea @dusk mantle

One of my ARs with a suppressor.

Changed picture due to sn

[dusk mantle]

MCX Spear? Cool modifiers

[dusky ember]

Nah. Hk416a5 build. New lower arriving soon hopefully

[dusk mantle]

Oh.... interesting

I would love Avtomat Mechanicism on Vetterli Karabiner so much because I love Vetterli Cyclone from Hunt Showdown

[dusky ember]

Its the marines gun.

More or less

[verbal temple]

omg having a Maverick 88 next to a whole ass Benelli m4 is crazy. Bro skipped all of the other shotguns and went straight for premium 😂

[frank mulch]

Glock 17 for sure.
AKM/ CZ VZ58
Ruger 10/22/ 22/45, Browning Buckmark for 22LR
Tanker M1 Garand that takes 308 Win and a bayonet
SKS with Bayonet
M60/ M240
M249
M250 (that 6.8mm LMG)
MAC10 or other SMG that takes 45 ACP, preferably with a semi auto firing mode
M79/ M320 Grenade Launcher
Colt Python/ S&W 686 or that 8 shot 357 Mag revolver from S&W, and have it fire from double action over single action only on the stock M13.
Saiga 12/ VEPR12 mag fed semi auto shotgun

[dusky ember]

Akm and cz vz are two different guns.

We dont need 3 belt feds

The rest is ok

[granite horizon]

E-Tool (Rare Melee Weapon)

Light attacks cost moderate amounts of stamina. Two-handed.

Charged and Strong attacks perform a “Swap” attack that changes the E-Tool’s weapon type between blunt and sharp.

Blunt mode: Vertical high-knockdown attacks.

Sharp Mode: Horizontal crowd-clearing attacks.

Lawnmower Blade (Common Melee Weapon)

A one-handed melee weapon that is capable of dismembering zombies with its strong attacks but costs a very high amount of stamina to do so. Low normal damage.

[frank mulch]

We should have the option to fix bayonets. M14 and maybe the MC15 should be able to mount one.

[dusky ember]

Mc15 does not have a bayonet lug.

[wicked kite]

its a civilian rifle, its common for cheap semi autos not to have one

[dusky ember]

Even expensive ones don't lol. Hks sure as hell don't

Kac doesn't

It's an m16 thing.

[floral wave]

supposedly our 590A1 has an M9 bayonet mount

[dusky ember]

This is true

The m14 may or may not have a bayonet lug. Stock m1as (Springfield m14) does not come with one stock typically. Fulton may, I do not own other brands though

[astral pilot]

I say that we need a damn double barrel shotgun

[hard storm]

I think we already have one, but also I want a side-by-side double barrel shotgun... with a really wide spread.

Also any plans for molotovs in the game? I feel like molotovs would be somewhat more believable compared to uhh the severe amount of M67s fragmentation grenades laying about.

[dusky ember]

We do but he means side by side.

And lots of pipe bombs laying around

[astral pilot]

The one in game is LAME

[verbal temple]

There's apparently code for a "Coach gun" in the game. We will be getting our boomstick soon 🙏

[astral pilot]

[merry sun]

would be neat to have variants of weapons that perform virtually the same

some with different mags and whatever. gives us a chance to snatch attachments in a way that makes a bit more sense

[verbal galleon]

[karmic lynx]

Nightstick would be cool. There are plenty of riot zombies walking around still holding their shields. It only makes sense that their batons would be lying around somewhere.

[dusky ember]

Magazines are too deep in the weeds. The likelihood of enough mags to fill a loadout is not possible.

But yes.. randomized attachments on guns would be cool

[dusky ember]

Pd uses asp collapsible batons, hopefully you mean that. Nightsticks are a 90s thing.

[opaque sedge]

LAPD still uses nightsticks for riot control. Since they've also decriminalized baton ownership, there's now been an uptick in collapsable batons owned privately.

[dusky ember]

Lapd, but there's no maps in cali
Or planned for cali

@drifting comet

[uncut marsh]

there are no zombies in Cali either only in Pennsylvania

[drifting comet]

We still very much use PR24s, its still very standard for crowd control all over the US. pretty much every agency that has a specialized response team would probably have them or something similar. I could see the addition only really making sense if it had a defensive perk pushing zombies off automatically or something else as it would literally just be like any other bat/etc if you dont utilized the defensive benefits of the side handle.

[dusky ember]

Its why I tagged you, 🫶

[drifting comet]

Sorry baby bro, HK's actually do....

[dusky ember]

416a5 uppers dont.

[tribal pewter]

Give me a P90, i BEG you devs

[drifting comet]

14.5 and longer does

thats from the HK website

[drifting comet]

Ive seen one PS90 in person in the US, and that was a decade ago. And where would to even find 5.7 in that situation? its a very niche round...

[tribal pewter]

You are absolutely right, but my heart yearns for a P90

[dusky ember]

5.7 is coming back... ruger and psa... fn be damned

[hard storm]

I mean we sort of already have 6.5x51mm in the game which I doubt would be a common cartridge.

[dusky ember]

Depends on army presence and if us army keeps it.

As they could back out still.

[hard storm]

I mean they did back out of the SCAR-L and SCAR-H right?

[dusky ember]

Yep

[floral wave]

6.8 should be common in the military outposts

you know the primary in-universe users of M7A1

[dusky ember]

More common?

Clarify

[floral wave]

it seems like US Army in this universe has standardized on the M7A1, and there's military outposts in 2/3 maps, so it should be reasonably common in those areas specifically

IMO it's pretty apparent that M7 is supposed to be 'The Military Rifle' like how the M16 was nmrih1's 'The Military Rifle', especially since we have multiple civilian 5.56 rifles and the nmrih2 M16A4 is yet to be seen

[dusky ember]

Agreed. But spawns outside those areas would still occur seldomly as they currently do

[odd shell]

Would love to see bows and arrows, just waiting to do a stealth build the second it gets implemented

[hard storm]

Yeah I think there would be plenty of M16A4s also since I would imagine the national guard will still be armed with those.

[astral pilot]

Glock 17, 19 round mag (has a built in floor plate,) takes 9mm and can take micro holo sight and pistol suppressor. can either do semi-auto or full auto

I do think the glock was shown once or twice in lever game's nmrih2, iirc

[dense isle]

there should be a magazine modification for that guns in game. that one should get a 30 round magazine as a modification. same with different ammo types.

one can use fuel cans from objectives that arent used. the other can use a new battery pick up.

chainsaws should be added both a gas and electric type.

[dusky ember]

Maybe when the new is released. Its kind of funny bc installing micro dots in field would require tools. Most rifle dots have mounts that can be installed by hand though... also full auto would require a glock switch or something similar.

[dusky ember]

Edit: didnt click tag, thought you meant glock. Apologies

[dense isle]

to be fair the glocks in game if they add them they should get a drum mag though.

and switches for the semi auto glock should also kinda be in game

[floral wave]

https://tenor.com/view/shooting-shooter-shoot-gangsta-gif-12175716

[dusky ember]

Unwieldy af and adds weight.

[dense isle]

yes add a new skill mod that adds recoil control for general firearms and bam

[hard storm]

Actually yeah if they did had to add the Glock make it have full-auto it'll be real funny mag dumping a zeke with one

[dusky ember]

Having shot a glock 18 once irl... I no longer care for them.

[dense isle]

1911 is better

[dusky ember]

But I get the excitement as I used to care about full auto more.

[dense isle]

glocks are just.. eh but they arent bad

[dusky ember]

Different entirely but yes I prefer 1911s and 2011s. I own all the above though

[dense isle]

having the m2 browning emplacements in the military areas would make sense

it would have at least 50% of its belt left or less

but hey you have a machinegun on a bipod

[dense isle]

now another weapon idea

sawed off shotgun

firing modes 2 single and double

it would have no effective long range but at close range it would delete anything in a wide pattern for stuff that's too close and does heavy stability damage

[terse fog]

Idk their cool and all but I dont think it would be that useful considering there are better shotguns

[dusky ember]

Itd be the mechanics of the over and under in game... but smol

Mad max wannabes rejoice though.

[hard storm]

I personally wouldn't mind more doodoo-tier weapons honestly

[astral pilot]

Okay, here's the survival 22 lr carbine

[verbal galleon]

[terse fog]

AK NOW GRAAAAA GRAAAAA

[dusky ember]

[astral pilot]

It would probably be better as a secondary, so you can have both a rifle and a shotgun without taking up too much space

[astral pilot]

I hope they are able to do another pass on the melee animations, they are pretty much the same no matter what 1h melee or 2h melee weapon you use.

[hard storm]

I feel like they need to do a little rebalancing of the weapons along with that.

I would completely do away with the light, heavy, hold attacks and keep it as light and hold. Make blunt do a lot of damage, overheads on lights and a sweep attack on hold. Reverse for the bladed weapons; Light attacks do light damaging sweeps while their heavys do a lot of damage for a single target. Some melee weapons should avert this in order to fill the stereotype (example: the sledgehammer should instead do a light sweep attack and a really REALLY strong overhead hold attack)

I'm just an amatuer ideas man though

[terse fog]

I mean shouldnt it be like that?

[terse fog]

Rochester with wood furnature

[astral pilot]

good look

[hot ridge]

Can we add fire throwables to the game like the ones found in 1? It should be easy to add the code since fire in the game is capable of doing damage to zeds. Oh also, shall we add head-light in the game to pick up for replacing flashlight ? Such that gives players capability to use two-hand weapon with light.

[formal sand]

i have been thinking they should've added this a long time ago

[velvet vector]

Ak model

[lethal valve]

https://youtube.com/shorts/5uixORDaAVE?si=7REfritBWq7Sn4if

[lethal valve]

Did anyone suggest Chiappa Rhino Revolver?

[dusky ember]

Only in 10mm please

Lol

I still say 416

[hard storm]

We need every AR-15 platform rifle in the game

[dusky ember]

The marine combat rifle makes sense.

[verbal galleon]

[dusky ember]

Ay girl ay.

[terse fog]

Will we possibly get a AK and SKS in the future?

What if the SKS came in variations of stock or sporterized

[storm obsidian]

We should but we'll see what happens when it comes to their backlog of old weapons

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[floral wave]

praying for that P250

[dusky ember]

.... the 250 is trash. Why

320 without safety issues and a terrible trigger

[floral wave]

precisely

nobody wanted it, it has 0 media presence, i haven't seen it in a game before

[dusky ember]

It was on cs at one point.

https://counterstrike.fandom.com/wiki/P250

So.. false

[terse fog]

Heres the AK the devs should use if they add one

If they do a civilian versions then the Arsenal AKs would make the most sense

[tight nest]

Oh yeah, with a single fire mode

But with attachments slots

[terse fog]

Yes

Id figure if we get full auto aks it would be donations by the UN or something

Or whats left of the UN

[icy kayak]

I feel like a Mac-10 would be a fitting firearm for several reasons. It would be a nice homage to NMRIH1, it is a new SMG which we currently only have 1, it uses .45 ammo which currently only the m1911 uses and it feels like a weapon that would be realistic to see used across the US.

I am not a gun enthusiast but you may want to consider adding a select fire to the mac-10 to avoid the issue in the first game where people avoided using it since you would often waste ammo firing more than 1 bullet at a time

[verbal temple]

I would honestly rather see the ump45 instead. Far more likely to just be laying around and looks alot better.

[icy kayak]

you can't go wrong either way I suppose, I just feel a .45 SMG would be a great addition for the aforementioned reason of adding a new SMG and adding more use for .45 ammo

m1911 users will suffer more with ammo scarcity but that's part of the fun

[terse fog]

Maybe both in the future?

Also would it be a bad idea for more bolt action rifles?

[floral wave]

mac10 is anachronistic for 2028 but the pre-Model 10 we have is even more so so it's pretty much fine

[terse fog]

I think they should update the model to make it mor modern tbh

[floral wave]

milsurp rifles would be super nice, they don't even have to have different stats than the Hunter

literally just reskins add a lot to authenticity

[terse fog]

The m1 garand maybe but would just be a m14 reskin with less mag capacity

[floral wave]

the issue with the mac is that in irl timeline it was a unicorn firearm 30 years ago, not something you'd find on the streets; like the tec-9 and street sweeper, its reputation vastly precedes its availability

frankly it's such a distinct cultural icon that if it were added, i wouldn't want to see it butchered with rails

[terse fog]

And if they do add another revolver it should be based off of this or just update the model 10

[terse fog]

I mean it could work for the game

[verbal temple]

the 686 is borderline confirmed to be coming to the game at some point. Can't wait for it's glorious return. Was my favorite gun in nmrih1 🔥

[tight nest]

I want to see smol Rhino revolver which uses 9mm bullets. We have already one "Futuristic" weapon - SIG SPEAR. So why not to see another one weapon with same style

[dusky ember]

The un uses m4s typically?

[terse fog]

More like of Eastern Europe part of the UN

[dusky ember]

Lol they'd be the last to help the us or be in the position to do so

[terse fog]

Well seeing how the world is going in the lore I would be certain they would put things aside

[dusky ember]

Bc hardly anyone buys the rhino. Youd have to dial the likelihood of finding one waaaay down.

[dusky ember]

Fair. I don't think they'd have the logistics though. Honestly making an ak full auto is pretty easy... they'd be around regardless. The ammo would be scarce though

[near rapids]

Are mosin nagants in the game yet ?

[river viper]

Gun

[umbral dome]

WHY IS 22LR IS BETTER THAN 9MM?
wth. like berretta requires 3-4 shots, when lr pistol needs 2 shots

[fading zenith]

No

[untold citrus]

id run that so much dude

[near rapids]

I’ll be back in another year, they better be in the game by then

Make it happen Demonless

[untold citrus]

Remington 300 bolt action rifle. With a non shit scope.

[wind flint]

we need more smgs we only have one atm

bring back the mac from nmrih1

[dusky ember]

Needs illuminated reticle scope.

[terse fog]

Wouldnt make sense tbh

[untold citrus]

I own a mosin you’d be surprised how much surplus is out there

Well owned a mosin .

[dusky ember]

The ammo isn't very common now.

[untold citrus]

We have the 7.62x54 cartridge in other weapons

I’d imagine a niche gun like that has room for upsides etc

[floral wave]

BAYONET

[dusky ember]

I mean... its not common to encounter in general in the us

[uncut marsh]

for these sniper zombies that spit on you from 300 meters away