#staff-help

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half mountain
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The folio editor thing isn't working, it's taking me to a different section of the website

split eagle
reef scaffold
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G'day, anyone know what I have to do for the Off-site programmers role in the Hidden Deveopers roblox group?

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Some type of command in the cmds channel maybe?

full kelp
daring moth
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what u lot think is a good price for someone to tutor me on how to make a good api

dapper spoke
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Can anybody help me? I got my application for graphic designer declined because my work is “not sophisticated” even though quite a few people have noticed my work by the style in servers and all. Is there a way to send my application to a different application reader because this one seems like he/she won’t look at my work or doesn’t seem to want to accept it.

lone star
reef scaffold
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Seems like a quite short response..

heavy sentinel
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i cant edit my hidden folio

heavy sentinel
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know when it will be up

heavy sentinel
glass arrow
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No estimated time atm

compact wagon
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how can I background check people?

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by chance does hirable scripter auto repost?

unreal pendant
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How do I report a dev who scammed me

turbid iris
turbid iris
random crag
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need this for a sec

wanton flare
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what do i do after i do /post and how do i puyt it in certain channel?

atomic granite
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.

torpid pulsar
hybrid flower
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How to get builder, modeler and UI Designer role?

dull basalt
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which is which

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which one is the small box on the top right and which is the main image

unborn jasper
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Uh

unborn jasper
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But

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It does say inside the text box if you didn't notice @dull basalt

dull basalt
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just wanted to make sure, ty

unborn jasper
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Don't worry, you can Allways change it later

bright sail
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yo i submitted a scam ticket, would appreciate it if someone looked into it

unborn jasper
bright sail
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do i get a dm

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guaranteed

mental geode
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yes

bright sail
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okay

young siren
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How do I do the run /post on channels to get to talk with a roblox Dev?

Do I write up a short summary of my requirements followed with /post? Or they have to be two separate messages.

young siren
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Or actually let me put it this way. I am looking to hire a team of professionals that can help me build a roblox game from scratch. Instead of posting for help in multiple channels, is there a single team I can reach out to that can perform build, graphics, sound, animation etc.? That would be fantastic!!

young siren
slender plank
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How do I cancel my scam ticket in process? Someone has paid me after I made the scam ticket.

unborn jasper
whole island
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can i make a report here since ticket isnt working?

plucky urchin
lunar pollen
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Have you definitely filled out every field?

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Or filled them out correctly?

vast crystal
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Can anyone inform me on how do I do a scam report?

shy folio
uncut vine
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How do i report a scammer?

uncut vine
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Oh lol ty

unborn tree
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Applied for skill role when do I know if I got accepted or rejected?

torpid pulsar
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Apply for the skill role in our web, HiddenDevs

eternal palmBOT
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@unborn jasper

Tag » apps

How to Apply

If you want to apply for a role in our community, the applications can be found here! It is highly recommended to check out our Application Guidelines to learn the requirements for these roles!

Pending Time

An application for a skill role may take up to 0-48 hours to be read. If pending beyond that time, please create a ticket using </ticket:0> and then selecting the "Application" category in #cmds

Application Tickets

To ensure your ticket is being dealt with maximum efficiency, please link your application in the media section of the ticket. As well as specify which role you are after.

Your ticket may take a few minutes and up to a day or two to be dealt with.

Still don't know how? Watch this video to find out how!

torpid pulsar
unborn tree
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Ight

molten gorge
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trying to find one

trim falcon
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i got a question about the scripter application - can i use images off of google to make a ui that i can script?

clear plinth
turbid iris
turbid iris
solid steeple
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Hey you guys C:

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so my rank on roblox is community creator

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but I dont have it on here and im very sad

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:C

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help a brother outttt

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its prob bc this is a new acc idek

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@cloud flower

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hey u

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love some help

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why do that if i could automatically get it

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u can obv see that i have in the group

unborn jasper
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So basicly i have some problem with my client, And he report me and then he ask for a refund, After that I refund his robux and then When i show the proof to the Trial Scam investigator he didnt reply my chat anymore ITS been 2days since i send the picture, Is that normal? Or what?

solid steeple
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youre blowing me

shy folio
unborn jasper
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Aight tyn

floral nacelle
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is there a codev channel in this server?

floral wren
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You can get more by applying on the website

eternal palmBOT
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@unborn jasper

Tag » apps

How to Apply

If you want to apply for a role in our community, the applications can be found here! It is highly recommended to check out our Application Guidelines to learn the requirements for these roles!

Pending Time

An application for a skill role may take up to 0-48 hours to be read. If pending beyond that time, please create a ticket using </ticket:0> and then selecting the "Application" category in #cmds

Application Tickets

To ensure your ticket is being dealt with maximum efficiency, please link your application in the media section of the ticket. As well as specify which role you are after.

Your ticket may take a few minutes and up to a day or two to be dealt with.

Still don't know how? Watch this video to find out how!

merry fossil
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emojis are given based on roles,

👑 = champion chat level
🎓= development helper
🎩 = development helper of the month
⭐ = patreon member/server subscriber
🌟 = staff member of the month

merry fossil
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champion is by talking in chat, leveling up your chat level (/stats, the blue bar in the top left)

you may become a development helper in one of the fields by applying or getting recommended
^ become development helper of the month by performing well as a development helper

become a server subscriber at https://discord.com/channels/211228845771063296/shop

staff member of the month is self explanatory, apply for a department then get staff of the month in your department

merry fossil
torpid pulsar
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Check the status of your application in the web, HiddenDevs

unborn jasper
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💀

unborn jasper
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@unborn jasper

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Then.... Wait for them to read through your application, And if you got denied, Improve on it and try again, If you got approved, Then you got approved.

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Im not a staff member so I cant review

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Dont ping staff members as that can make them deny it for being a nuisance

compact wagon
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I would like to report a scammer where do I go?

eternal palmBOT
# compact wagon I would like to report a scammer where do I go?
Tag » scam

Before creating a Scam Ticket

  • Ensure ONE OR MORE of the following rules have been broken:

    • Not completing your side of the original deal.
    • Selling stolen assets/reselling assets without permission from the original owner.
    • Selling plagiarised assets.
    • Changing an agreed deal without the consent of the other user.
  • For a full breakdown of the rules, read #641035242643259392.

How to create a Scam Report

  • Use the /ticket command in any channel
    • The prompt is ephemeral; nobody else can see it
  • Click Create ticket
  • Select Scam Report from the dropdown
  • Provide as much evidence and detail as possible.
    • After entering any details, make sure you press Submit, even if the ticket is incomplete.

DO NOT DM a Scam Investigator to report a scam

All investigations must be done through the ticket system so that management can keep track of SI's activity and monitor how many scams are being reported.

When a Scam Investigator claims your ticket, they will DM you to confirm details and evidence. If you fail to respond to that message within 24 hours, your ticket will be closed. If your ticket is closed, you will have to submit another ticket if you wish to start an investigation.

How to get someone's user ID
Public scam logs

glossy kiln
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Forgive me for a doubt, if I want to open a ticket about a user who agreed to commission me and who after having done the work decided to postpone the payment date for several days more than once and who in the end only made fun of me, which one should I choose?

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I have never made a ticket, sorry 💫

ornate wren
glossy kiln
ornate wren
glossy kiln
glossy kiln
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what does this mean? 💫

split eagle
glossy kiln
split eagle
eternal palmBOT
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How to get a user's Discord ID

All the instructions to do this can be found below. If you don't feel like following the instructions below we have a command that can get someone's Discord ID. Run the /getid (users name or mention) and that can give you their ID.

Instructions:
Click here for the step by step instructions

split eagle
glossy kiln
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done

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thanks!

split eagle
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np

sturdy harness
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trying to submit a scam report but this keeps happening. can a scam investigator dm me and i can just send the scam report there?

ornate wren
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No, and that means you likely took too long to type all the info

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Copy it into a notepad, run the command again, and paste it back in

sturdy harness
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thats what i have done. i have been trying mulitple times over mulitple days now. i copy and paste everything, press submit and it always says that

ornate wren
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What are you putting in the suspect ID field

sturdy harness
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the id

ornate wren
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yes, send it

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here

sturdy harness
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648267335412744202

ornate wren
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How many media links are you attaching ?

sturdy harness
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5

ornate wren
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try removing 4

sturdy harness
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it says 5 is the max

ornate wren
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i know

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try removing 4

sturdy harness
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i need to submit 5 to show all the info

ornate wren
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you will get another chance to send more later on

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dont worry

sturdy harness
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why say 5 max if its not the max

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and 1 is

ornate wren
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why does that matter right now

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and its out of our control, discord embed character limit, you cannot dynamically limit a field of an embed

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so if your description is huge, and you max out on links with really long domains

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it hits it

sturdy harness
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it didnt go past the character limit though..

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whatever ill try with 1

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finally. i have been trying for a week. you should remove "5 max" if it doesnt even work, even when there was 200 characters left in the field

sturdy harness
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i just said

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it did not past character limit

ornate wren
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please read what i wrote

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__discord __embed character limit

sturdy harness
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so remove

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"5 max"

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if the discord embed character limit

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doesnt allow 5 links

ornate wren
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character limit

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a is 1 character

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right?

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so if you put 5 characters in the description

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5 links would easily fit

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within the 4k char limit

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or whatever it is

sturdy harness
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i just said there was 200 characters left with 5 links

ornate wren
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but if you put 3500, it wouldnt

ornate wren
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for what a reasonable description size would have left

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for example, if the discord limit was 1k chars

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we would have worked out the size of a typical description

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in this example lets say 800

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so that is where the remaining 200 limit comes from

sturdy harness
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this is with 5 links. how am i supposed to know that your estimate is wrong

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it says 111 left

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i cant know that that is not accurate

ornate wren
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ur not reading what im writing

sturdy harness
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?????????

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you are talking about character limit

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it clearly says

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111 characters left

ornate wren
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well youre welcome, next time ill be sure to help you out thumbsup great attitude bud

calm laurel
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How old my account needs to be, in order to post on marketplace?

ornate wren
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@calm laurel 7 days

calm laurel
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Oh okay, thank you

ornate wren
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chances are you made your account for HD if its younger, which theres nothing wrong with

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but hope you understand that it mitigates scammer's alts

calm laurel
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Yeah I understood, thanks again!

light citrus
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Are their middleman’s on hidden devs

eternal palmBOT
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@light citrus

Tag » Middle Man

The current way to request a Middle Man is through our ticket system.

Use </ticket:1014200001896919101> in #cmds -> General -> "Requesting Middle Man Services"

light citrus
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You post in builder hiring

full kelp
tame spear
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I got a question if I become a clothes like application the req is I gotta have 5 clothes of roblox do I gotta post that in roblox cuz I got 0 robux and cant post but I have 5 clothes ready tho

robust roost
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If you need help with something involving scripting, please go to #code-help.

rain spade
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How long does it take for a scam report to be processed?

rain spade
late totem
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Can I get some assistance?

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mainly from marketplace staff

torpid pulsar
late totem
torpid pulsar
alpine spade
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how do i post in hiring channels?

lunar pollen
restive moat
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Hey guys!
I need to hire a guy who can make a nice trailer for my Roblox Game + for my YT Channel. But am confused about where to post this job offer. Can anyone help me out!

split eagle
restive moat
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@lunar pollen pls help me out!

torpid pulsar
distant fog
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^^

split eagle
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^^

lunar pollen
split eagle
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^^

lunar pollen
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You need to go to the website and apply for the builder role [read the guidelines provided first]. Then once accepted, you will have the builder role.

Discord

Discord is the easiest way to communicate over voice, video, and text. Chat, hang out, and stay close with your friends and communities.

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It usually takes 0 - 48 hours for apps to be read - if it takes any longer, make a ticket [</ticket:0>].

blissful trail
lunar pollen
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No worries.

robust roost
robust roost
finite shale
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were is the best place to put remote events

native geyser
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How do i report potential scammers

robust roost
native geyser
split eagle
eternal palmBOT
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@native geyser

How to get a user's Discord ID

All the instructions to do this can be found below. If you don't feel like following the instructions below we have a command that can get someone's Discord ID. Run the /getid (users name or mention) and that can give you their ID.

Instructions:
Click here for the step by step instructions

native geyser
ornate wren
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Short answer, yes

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because 50 robux is

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You must have made clothing thats been uploaded before too, even if not uploaded by you ?

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And "this error" is ?

tame spear
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but didnt upload it

ornate wren
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As the guidelines say, examples must be provided as catalog links

ebon oxide
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what is QA access?

unborn jasper
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Read it

ebon oxide
unborn jasper
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This role will be used in the future to host our QA testing sessions. For current progress, we're working on the bot functionality. The front end is done for it, just working on the staff side of it.

ebon oxide
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ty

unborn jasper
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You know i just copy and pasted it?

ebon oxide
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well idk where its from

unborn jasper
ebon oxide
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ohh

unborn jasper
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No problem

ebon oxide
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ty

hazy glacier
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how do i put myself up on the "for hire" page?

eternal palmBOT
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Tag » How to post

In our marketplace (#marketplace-info), we have 2 different ways of making a post; a hiring and hireable post.
Hiring posts are posts which allows you to seek for developers whilst a hireable post allows people who are hiring to find you.

Hiring post

To make a hiring post, use the command </post:0> in #cmds and fill out the required fields. Remember that the marketplace doesn't accept % if your game hasn't made profit yet!

Hireable post

To make a hireable post, you first need your respective skill role; refer to the command /tag view tag_name: apps for the application link and guidelines. After you get your role, use the command </post:0> in #cmds and fill out the required fields.

hazy glacier
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ok

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thank

eternal palmBOT
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Tag » apps

How to Apply

If you want to apply for a role in our community, the applications can be found here! It is highly recommended to check out our Application Guidelines to learn the requirements for these roles!

Pending Time

An application for a skill role may take up to 0-48 hours to be read. If pending beyond that time, please create a ticket using </ticket:0> and then selecting the "Application" category in #cmds

Application Tickets

To ensure your ticket is being dealt with maximum efficiency, please link your application in the media section of the ticket. As well as specify which role you are after.

Your ticket may take a few minutes and up to a day or two to be dealt with.

Still don't know how? Watch this video to find out how!

fathom terrace
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can i report someone for wasting my time

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in fact it's not just a person its an entire dev team

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they commissioned me, i made and showed them all the animations they asked from me and then in the end just straight up tells me they don't need me anymore and wont be paying me a single dime

ornate wren
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yes, make a scam report ticket with /ticket @fathom terrace

fathom terrace
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its not technically a scam since i didnt give them my animations yet

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but they still wasted my time

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is that still fine

unborn jasper
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Report it

fathom terrace
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alright thank you guys

bitter cave
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Hello

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@unborn jasper

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@ornate wren

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@fathom terrace

fathom terrace
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what

bitter cave
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Do u know how to make eggs?

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Pet eggs

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@fathom terrace

fathom terrace
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idk im not a modeler

steep creek
twin plank
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I can't create a report ticket, everytime i press to submit it doesn't submit, and i've checked to see if anything is needed and everything is perfect in the report,(everything required is already put in), please help me with this issue the report is important.

urban latch
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nevermind!

merry fossil
twin plank
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it goes back to normal, and says submit again.

merry fossil
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does it give you an error in red text

twin plank
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Tells, me (edit ticket info required) 1, suspects and media, and description is full with information. Everytime i press on the red text and look in, theres nothing, i make sure to press submit in the reporting frame.

merry fossil
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you are not submitting the suspect properly

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you need to add the user's userid to that field

twin plank
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The roblox id, i've put it inside there.

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Now, it won't even let me edit it.

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Tells me "This interaction failed"

rose marlin
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How do you get a skill role

charred perch
eternal palmBOT
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Tag » apps

How to Apply

If you want to apply for a role in our community, the applications can be found here! It is highly recommended to check out our Application Guidelines to learn the requirements for these roles!

Pending Time

An application for a skill role may take up to 0-48 hours to be read. If pending beyond that time, please create a ticket using </ticket:0> and then selecting the "Application" category in #cmds

Application Tickets

To ensure your ticket is being dealt with maximum efficiency, please link your application in the media section of the ticket. As well as specify which role you are after.

Your ticket may take a few minutes and up to a day or two to be dealt with.

Still don't know how? Watch this video to find out how!

merry fossil
turbid iris
turbid iris
steep creek
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folio editor still broken it seems

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any idea when its gonna be fixed?

jovial birch
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I'm trying to open a ticket, the problem is that it registers this for me -
what am I doing

twilit pewter
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how do i fix this?

slate quartz
slate quartz
quiet remnant
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sup, After authorization, your next drop will be updated! weekdrop.pro

crimson rock
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yo guys

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i got a question

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how do i get commissions fast?

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i only got 1-2 commissions

unborn jasper
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Get a good portfolio

lunar pollen
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Then you have more experience to put on your portfolio.

lunar pollen
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More experience → More comms

lunar pollen
split eagle
crimson rock
split eagle
lunar pollen
eternal palmBOT
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@crimson rock

Tag » portfolio

What is a portfolio?
In essence, it is a showcase that proves that you can do what you talk about in your post. Rather than telling possible employers about your skills, you can create a portfolio to show them.

What should my portfolio have?
In HiddenDevs your portfolio is expected to have at least 3 examples of your work, but it can also include extra details about you and your prices even though those things should be included in your post info too.

Possible websites to create a portfolio for HiddenDevs purposes
HiddenFolio: Example portfolio
DeviantArt
ArtStation
Twitter
Google Sites
Wix

crimson rock
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oh ty

jaunty lichen
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what’s the best tutorial of learning how to do vfx, i gotta dev a game but i have no experience

weary patio
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where do i /post? is there a bot commands channel

junior swallow
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Hello, i have a question. I am an UI designer and i had a customer that wanted an UI from me. I told him that i dont import the UI or script it and he agreed with that. After i gave him all the UI's he told me to import it and i said no because i told him that i dont import. Now he wants to report me for scamming him. Do i get banned or something?

split eagle
junior swallow
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ok thanks

chilly obsidian
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thanks

urban latch
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I was denied for not submitting past work through an online portfolio/social media, yet I did exactly that
Site I used is imgur

charred perch
urban latch
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Graphics artist

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Maybe texture artist is better for that?

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For making the vehicle liveries, aka the art that goes on cars and planes

unborn jasper
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Wouldn't say putting some text and mountains would count as a GFX artist

urban latch
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☠️

blissful cradle
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idk if it's just me but I can't edit the portfolio on the website Sadge

blissful cradle
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whoops, thanks

ornate wren
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You can see valid sites here

eternal palmBOT
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@urban latch

Tag » portfolio

What is a portfolio?
In essence, it is a showcase that proves that you can do what you talk about in your post. Rather than telling possible employers about your skills, you can create a portfolio to show them.

What should my portfolio have?
In HiddenDevs your portfolio is expected to have at least 3 examples of your work, but it can also include extra details about you and your prices even though those things should be included in your post info too.

Possible websites to create a portfolio for HiddenDevs purposes
HiddenFolio: Example portfolio
DeviantArt
ArtStation
Twitter
Google Sites
Wix

urban latch
ornate wren
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You think its a portfolio, we think it isnt

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It definitely isnt made with the intention of being used as a portfolio, whereas the others are

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excl twitter

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but twitter is so widely used as a portfolio that we consider it a form of portfolio

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Imgur is an image uploading website

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You can upload images to discord, but discord isnt a portfolio service

urban latch
ornate wren
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Feel how you feel, but in the time you will spend discussing it, you can make a deviantart account and upload your work

ornate wren
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Since we do not allow discord servers as a form of portfolio here

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primarily since 1. its a really shit way of displaying work and 2. you have to join a server to see it

split eagle
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portfolio should be visible to people without signing up on anything or joining it

urban latch
split eagle
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uh nope? you can see posts without being signed in

urban latch
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Pretty sure they changed it

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When I reapply should I do texture or graphics

full kelp
split eagle
full kelp
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nah, it's being run into the ground

urban latch
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Is texture artist or graphics role more suitable for livery designer?

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On the applications page

urban latch
plucky urchin
unborn jasper
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planes and cars he ahas

urban latch
plucky urchin
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I’m not 100% sure.

distant fog
distant fog
frank prism
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where do i find scripters in this bin

urban latch
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I resubmitted my application as texture artist

viscid mirage
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the report

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isnt workingh

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fot me

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it says

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interaction failed

unborn jasper
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Copy the text, And remake a report

viscid mirage
unborn jasper
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Probably a glitch, Make sure that you meet all of the requirements and try making it 1 screenshot instead of 4-5

viscid mirage
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and yes

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all screen shot

unborn jasper
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Bruh

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Send 1 screenshot

ornate wren
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and/or is your description really long

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if so, shorten it

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you can remove all links you get given a chance to provide them later anyway

viscid mirage
viscid mirage
brazen dock
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how do u make this for your own discord server

blazing bobcat
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ayo

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mad DOX bots in this server

earnest mauve
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how to appeal scam log done in a different server (scripting helpers)

turbid iris
turbid iris
turbid iris
unborn jasper
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Is it possible for me to receive a list of the scam investigators? A few months ago i got banned and I told the scam investigator that I thought what I did was okay because someone who still posts in the server had done it too me he told me when I get unbanned I can report it and he would vouch for me. But because it has been so many months I lost the username of the scam investigator i spoke with

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His profile picture was a roblox head or lego head with shades thats all I remember was 5 months ago

earnest mauve
grand hollow
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how to get access to the hiring cahnnels

left plaza
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@cloud flower

split eagle
faint siren
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Yea I thought that guy above was recruiting from marketplace

static belfry
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umm. i am verified but i cant chat to the builders hirable. i wanna be a successful builder but it just dosent work (i visited this server because of highlywanted)

left plaza
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Where

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Nevermind too much work

lusty light
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how do i post in hiring channel?

unborn jasper
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And after you apply and get accepted, /post in #cmds

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e

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hi

lusty light
unborn jasper
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Is hidden bot down I can’t submit a ticket

dim epoch
cunning narwhal
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how do i join modeleing hirable

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can someone hlep

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help

keen egret
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ping me if staff comes

unborn jasper
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@unborn jasper @keen egret

keen egret
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thank you

unborn jasper
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No problem

atomic granite
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J

unborn jasper
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split eagle
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ask him to appeal on the website

tight thorn
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i need help

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i made a logo and i take as a reference a thing and kinda copy paste it and now im banned for aplication for 1 week

stable drift
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how can i put myself up for hire idk how lol

tight thorn
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When you have a skill role you can get hired

stable drift
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thank you

tight thorn
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Np

novel moss
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How can i create my folio ?

novel moss
#

How..

steep river
#

@mental geode Shot you a DM request.

strong gull
#

how much time it takes to ticket be reviewed?

ornate wren
strong gull
ornate wren
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as in an application on the website or an application ticket you made with /ticket?

weak prairie
#

Can someone help one person is abusing me in dm's.

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He's one of the devoloper.

ornate wren
main abyss
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yea

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i wanna report someone

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he scammed me

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all my rubux is gone

ornate wren
#

same thing, but a scam ticket

main abyss
#

and hes fucking with me

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ima about to fucking kill his ass

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he knows i have perms to the reddit cmds panels

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and i can contact roblox

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i am tired of this shit

unborn jasper
ornate wren
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if its on website, up to 48h, drops depending on role popularity

strong gull
#

i have waited for more than 3 days on website, and its a second day of waiting for ticket, if im not mistaken

main abyss
#

nha

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i am sad and mad

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ima fucking kill him

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or destroy him

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i am tired of your crappy staff aproveing anyone and everyone as a dev

weak prairie
#

He dmed me and started abusing like hell, and he's spaming the bad word..

main abyss
#

UGHA

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FUCK!

strong gull
waxen prawn
strong gull
ornate wren
#

have you checked the website to see if it was accepted or denied ?

ornate wren
#

show

main abyss
#

and he used the n word

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i am tired of yall

waxen prawn
#

ik you're emotional right now, but you're directing your anger towards the wrong people

main abyss
#

i am mad

strong gull
main abyss
waxen prawn
#

make a scam ticket

waxen prawn
#

and wait for an SI to contact you

main abyss
#

you fr

waxen prawn
#

yes

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lets act like adults please

main abyss
#

when i really got scammed

main abyss
waxen prawn
#

yes, that's unfortunate. I understand.

main abyss
#

i cannot make a ticket

waxen prawn
#

however, you can't cause a storm here

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why?

main abyss
#

also

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i cannot calm down

main abyss
waxen prawn
#

then don't take it out on the staff

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then make it when you can

main abyss
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he destroyed my map

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he destroyed everything

waxen prawn
#

yes, that's very unfortunate. I understand losing a lot of development progress.

main abyss
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i am sad

ornate wren
#

@strong gull Are you positive your in-discord ticket is older than 2 days ?

waxen prawn
#

however, you'll recover.

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taking it out on people who had no control over the situation is not the right thing to do

main abyss
#

i spent 60k on the work

waxen prawn
#

alright buddy

main abyss
#

and devs

waxen prawn
#

see you in like 10 minutes

main abyss
#

all gone

glossy kiln
#

hello

ornate wren
#

hi

glossy kiln
ornate wren
#

a user report or a scam report?

glossy kiln
#

scam report

ornate wren
#

I think the current estimate is around a week

strong gull
#

maybe a bit less

glossy kiln
ornate wren
#

@brisk swallow @distant fog whats going on with app tickets Angery

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from this guy especially

glossy kiln
brisk swallow
#

o wait nvm

glossy kiln
#

🦦

brisk swallow
#

I don't have access to the status of skill role things

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If a skill role app takes more than 48hrs then you issue a ticket to get it resolved. there may be a small backend for roles such as lua though. I heard from an unnamed entity that certain skill roles don't have enough people rn to read apps

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(even tho it was like 3 weeks ago)

brisk swallow
#

When did you make the ticket? As it's currently a Monday many staff members are busy with responsibilities such as school

strong gull
#

almost 2 days ago

brisk swallow
eternal palmBOT
# unborn jasper hey what for image perms
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brisk swallow
#

I think emerald 1

unborn jasper
#

Swhat

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Im so close

brisk swallow
#

I forgor ngl

strong gull
unborn jasper
#

Ill be oh-so kind and spam in #chat to get my ymy

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Man

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2 more levels

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I wish the is me more

brisk swallow
#

lol spamming doesn't count towards level

unborn jasper
#

What activates it

#

Nothing?

brisk swallow
#

secret

unborn jasper
#

1 message a minute?

#

What is reaction perms?

brisk swallow
#

if you can react to messages in a lot of cases

lunar pollen
brisk swallow
#

shit so close

unborn jasper
#

Duuudededededed plspslspslspslsspsls

brisk swallow
#

😭

unborn jasper
#

I cant get to emerald II

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I need 6 more levels

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😢

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Ill be sooo kind i prommiissseeeeeeeeeeeeee

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I wont abuseeeeeeee

lunar pollen
#

I thought that when I joined but look at me now B)

unborn jasper
lunar pollen
#

Gotta stay on the grind 🔥 🗣️

unborn jasper
#

How much EXP is in one level

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15 and 25xp per minute

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How much one level

brisk swallow
unborn jasper
brisk swallow
#

not my decision

lunar pollen
#

/j AYS_crazyguy

brisk swallow
unborn jasper
#

@brisk swallowLook at this funny guy

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Open a scam report

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Wait

#

What

lunar pollen
#

Have you definitely filled out all the fields?

unborn jasper
#

I wonder why you got timedout...

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Im not? lol

ornate wren
#

will do bye

main abyss
#

wait 1 sec

#

!leave

unborn jasper
#

...

brisk swallow
#

😭

upper bough
#

idk anything about this server how do i put an ad to hire someone

lunar pollen
ornate wren
#

We are not associated with any employment contract you choose to make

#

they have nothing to do with us

distant fog
real ether
#

There's literally no use for hiring programmers within this server then 💀

ornate wren
#

so

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guess when we accept them

real ether
#

From my experience most programmers have no issue with taking %

ornate wren
#

% payment unaccompanied by a flat base payment is essentially gambling

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especially from novice devs, which is what most of the HD marketplace is

real ether
ornate wren
#

No developer would prefer % payment from a complete newcomer to launching projects compared to a flat payment

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because it is more than likely for that % payment to be 0

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and new devs might not realise how much of their time theyre wasting by taking % payment jobs from people who realistically have no intention or idea of how theyre going to pay the devs back for their time

real ether
ornate wren
#

and the post with % payment will be accepted

real ether
#

💀

ornate wren
#

what

real ether
#

That makes no sense.

#

So lets say myself and a colleague of mine who owns the project I'm trying to hire for

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want to find a programmer who'd work for % and we aren't "newcomers" when it comes to launching projects

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yet our posts are still denied because the one we want to hire for isn't released

ornate wren
#

well how the hell are we gonna know ?

real ether
#

Then why the fuck is that denial process a thing?

#

if you don't even do research on the people

ornate wren
#

no i mean, we arent just going to telepathically know youre not newcomers

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put something in the post to show it

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show your past successes

ornate wren
real ether
#

At the end of the day it doesn't make sense to me that we're denied the right to find potential developers just because the game is in development.

ornate wren
#

we are not going to individually research each usere

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it is your job to show us the info

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not ours to seek it out

unborn jasper
#

Is payment allowed in discord nitro?

real ether
#

But from what you said it wouldn't be denied if the people had projects release in the past.

ornate wren
real ether
unborn jasper
#

Prohibited but not punishable?

ornate wren
unborn jasper
ornate wren
real ether
unborn jasper
real ether
#

Don't see why I would have to specify a different project when I'm trying to hire for an in-development project.

ornate wren
ornate wren
#

but if they report you then

unborn jasper
#

Ban?

ornate wren
#

well yea ig we wouldnt do anything, but if you claimed to be paying them 5$ and it turns out to be nitro and they didnt agree to that

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then that would be a scam

real ether
#

Again like I stated the system just doesn't make sense.

unborn jasper
ornate wren
ornate wren
real ether
ornate wren
real ether
#

Also it doesn't make sense to me because you state that if the person hiring has had sucessful projects in the past it will be accepted.

#

But then don't do any research on the people making said posts and you surely don't state anything regarding that condition anywhere.

ornate wren
#

it is your job to show us the info
not ours to seek it out

real ether
#

At the end of the day all you're doing is preventing potential developers from joining projects.

ornate wren
ornate wren
real ether
#

But that's for the current project, not previously owned ones.

ornate wren
#

A % of 0 is 0, and

#

at the end of the day

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our marketplace, our rules

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dont like it,

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🚪

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at the end of the day

real ether
#

So no professionalism right?

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just stops here because you don't have any valid answers.

ornate wren
real ether
#

other than that's what the marketplace rules are as of now.

#

Can you tell me who wrote those marketplace rules?

ornate wren
real ether
ornate wren
#

they make the posts i n order to get offers, i promise you its what they want

real ether
#

Indeed but there's certain genres on the platform.

ornate wren
#

you can also contact them in-server

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you may also find some that accept % payment

real ether
#

Alright I mean I'll try what you're suggesting.

ornate wren
#

as some list it on the posts

real ether
#

Again I just think that marketplace rule in specific needs changing.

ornate wren
#

You can use /search to find posts in that channel that have % payment listed

real ether
#

I understand there's a potential risk but all you're doing is preventing projects from finding developers.

#

If those developers choose to work for % that's up to them to decide.

ornate wren
#

1103318352421460852, 1159822177059476304, 1162551324944897342

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search those ids in the server search and you can see those

ornate wren
real ether
ornate wren
#

So the idea that a dev can choose who they work for

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would remove the need for any rules for posts in the hiring section

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because a dev can look at them, and decide themselves whether they want the job

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so posts could be full of swearing, offer 1k robux for an entire game to be scripted, etc

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and we could just say "if you dont like it, dont take it"

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but obviously that doesnt actually work

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the mp would be full of utter shit

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let me show you some declined posts

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I cant show you names of people etc for privacy but

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the place would be flooded

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with crap

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so sure, we could allow it all andj ust say "if you dont like it keep scrolling"

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but that really doesnt solve anything, obviously nobody with any level of brain power would take these posts

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and new devs might not know what a "good" comm is, so might take them

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get themselves agreed into a 20 hour job for 2k robux

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realise they hate it

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get scam reported for quitting

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banned

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and have their time here ruined

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because we didnt filter the posts

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micdrop

real ether
#

Alright I understand that but you've shown me posts that have no effort into them at all, not to mention probably might never see the light of day.

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You all review the posts eitherway so why can't you be the deciders if the project seems like it could work or not?

ornate wren
#

wdym

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we are

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yea thats basically what we do

real ether
#

How do I explain this more properly

ornate wren
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we will never allow % payment for something that doesnt exist

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if the marketplace was restricted to

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"premium" developers

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only

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with lots of experience

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then sure

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but theres soooooooo many new people here

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and 99% of these proejcts will generate 0

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and 100% of the devs who work for them will make 0

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and will have wasted their time

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we feel we are doing the right thing by preventing it

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sure they might like the sound of it, but they dont realise what theyre getting into

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also, if youre making a game

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you should have funding to do so

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and not just rely on

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fumes

real ether
#

What I intended to say is that the examples you've shown me have no effort put into them at all nor do they seem like they'll succeed with the way they've been presented, however, you could make a compromise where you allow projects to compensate with % if they show professionalism and potential (pretty much up to reviewers to decide) so that way you aren't declining up-coming projects from finding developers.

ornate wren
#

professionalism is one very small step in the right direction, not something we can base assumptions of success on really

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but youre right, we do kinda do that

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not in that we'd accept it immediately

real ether
#

It defeats the entire point of the marketplace is I can't make a post to find developers interested.

ornate wren
#

but if we see a 5 line post with % payment then realistically its instantly being declined

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but a bigger more detailed one, might get our attention

real ether
#

Genuinely speaking I can confirm my project will generate revenue and we even have funding for it.

real ether
#

However the main compensation would be %

real ether
#

It's easier to have people who are genuinely interested to reach out to you.

ornate wren
#

well if you dont have funding enough to pay devs a flat amount ,we'd consider your proejct "small" (in terms of whats being put in), therefore it doesnt really belong in hiring channels, and is more suited for you to dm people who make hireable posts

real ether
ornate wren
#

well you dont go to the shops without money

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and you definitely dont try to launch a game and hire people without money

real ether
#

So do I have to specify that I've paid people before in my posts now?

unborn jasper
#

🍿

real ether
#

And have recommendations / vouches attached?

ornate wren
#

no

real ether
#

Just because the project is small doesn't mean it doesn't have the potential to generate income.

ornate wren
#

absolutely, but it has far less potential, and the income its far less likely to generate is far more likely to be far less

real ether
#

Again I'm only arguing your points because I don't think that rule should be as harsh as instantly being declined.

ornate wren
#

fair enough, unfortunately i can promise you the rules wont change

real ether
ornate wren
#

if the potential was 0.01%

unborn jasper
#

🍿

ornate wren
#

making it 0.0001%

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is fine

real ether
#

How would you know the potential of a project like mine?

ornate wren
#

by if the owners are willing to invest money into paying developers

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thats a huuuuuuuuuuuuuuge aspect

unborn jasper
#

🍿

real ether
#

That's just an aspect though, we've invested quite a bit of money into the project already for commissions and whatnot.

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However it doesn't mean we need to constantly pump money when the compensation is %?

ornate wren
#

i think another sign would be assignment of funding

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and if paying a scripter isnt in

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top 3 allocations for funding

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not a good sign for potential success

real ether
#

There's games out there that have had no funding at all on the front page so your point isn't exactly all valid.

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Especially within the anime genre where most of the projects hand out % to developers and they do in-fact release.

unborn jasper
#

🍿

ornate wren
#

yea, a front page game offering % isnt an issue

real ether
#

What I was mentioning was that some of these games were released with developers being on % and having little to no funding.

unborn jasper
#

Guys your making it less fun to read, Go back to the simple stuff 😠

real ether
#

As for anime related projects it's not exactly a necessity to have a lot of fundings to release the project.

ornate wren
#

i just think thats a bit of a non statement, i dont know if its true, nor can i easily find out and quite frankly I doubt you really know that

real ether
#

Most of the publicity for the project comes from content creators

real ether
#

Otherwise everyone like the modeller and programmer were on %

unborn jasper
#

🍿

real ether
#

Pretty sure Pls Donate was also % until it released and became popular

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Another example I could even mention is a anime game called Pixel Piece

ornate wren
#

these games are all one in a million anomalies, and "pretty sure" translates into "i hope" when i read it

real ether
#

I know for a fact all their devs were on %

ornate wren
#

explains why ive never heard of it

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that one was a joke

real ether
#

Means you're not part of the anime genre?

unborn jasper
#

🍿

ornate wren
#

i never denied % pamyne tprojects can tbe successful, but the vast vast vast majority arent

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hence why youve named 3 examples, im sure you cna name more but it wont become a significant number enough to convince me that such a large proportion are successful that we should accept blind % payment

real ether
#

I don't disagree that the lower effort posts should be automatically declined

unborn jasper
#

No more popcorn left 😢

real ether
#

like build an entire map for 2%

#

that's ridiculous

ornate wren
#

i speak on behalf of the entire server when i say, "we aren't interested", it might sound dumb but these rules dont just materialise

real ether
#

but actual up-coming projects would be a different story no?

ornate wren
#

nobody is complaining about the lack of % payment posts other than the people trying to post them

real ether
#

It should be regulated so you don't have dumb / time wasting posts.

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but it shouldn't prevent actual projects from finding developers either.

real ether
ornate wren
#

for example i assume your post was declined

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which means you didnt show evidence of past revenue on it like a previously successful game or the game being advertised being successful

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fine

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nobody really does the first time

real ether
#

That would be a very easy assumption considering that I came here to advice against such a rule.

ornate wren
#

all you had to do, was read the reason

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see that it was because the game has to be already earning

real ether
#

Which I did and don't believe it should be enforced in the current way that it is.

ornate wren
#

potentially dive into the rule a bit more

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dm one of us maybe

real ether
#

I've given you multiple compromises that would benefit both parties.

ornate wren
#

show us some past projects

real ether
#

You just choose to ignore it all

ornate wren
#

put it on the post

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and it wouldve been accepted

real ether
#

Remember the first thing you've told me after you got tired?

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Leave the server?

ornate wren
#

i said if you dont like the rules, leave, cuz they aint changin

real ether
#

Just because I'm criticizing a marketplace rule that I believe could be changed in a way that benefits everyone?

ornate wren
#

and this marketplace isnt some sort of right

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its not an entitlement

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if you dont like it, nobody is forcing you to use it

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we hear your suggestions, we choose to ignore them

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if you cant accept that then thats not good

real ether
#

Again the only reason I've been arguing against it because you seem to have no middle ground.

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nor does it actually make sense

ornate wren
real ether
#

and the reason I say that is because you send me a screenshot of there being a condition

ornate wren
#

to me, and the entire staff department it does

real ether
#

which states that the project has the be released / make money

ornate wren
#

and ive made it clear multiple times, the rule wont change

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so youre right, theres no middleground

real ether
#

but then tell me before that

ornate wren
#

but ive told you that

real ether
#

that we can have projects which were succesful before?

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that's not in the condition list within the rule

unborn jasper
#

I bought more popcorn!

ornate wren
#

yea technically its not really the rule, but we tend to accept those who show that theyve had success before and have funds to back it up

unborn jasper
#

🍿

ornate wren
#

ig thats your middelground youve been after

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The main thing about fgr (% payment) is that you cannot promise a % of an amount that doesnt exist yet

real ether
#

Again seems like your entire purpose here is to ensure less people succeed smh

unborn jasper
#

Your arguement has been going on for 1:30 🍿

real ether
#

But sure I suppose I have to settle for that specific middleground.

unborn jasper
#

Around that long yes

ornate wren
#

mad

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part of the job

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and i was bored anyway

unborn jasper
#

No dont make it end

ornate wren
#

sry

real ether
#

Doing a fantastic job.

unborn jasper
#

Continue arguing

ornate wren
#

why dont you contend a marketplace rule

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find one you dont like

real ether
#

@waxen prawn DMs

unborn jasper
#

Me?

ornate wren
#

sure

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if you like arguments

ornate wren
#

if you reaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaly feel so strongly dm @dark meadow

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he'd love to talk to you

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and he makes the final call on marketplace stuff

dark meadow
#

Hm?

ornate wren
#

@real ether doesnt like the future game rev rule

unborn jasper
#

Increase that

ornate wren
#

eh 1500 for like a small building is

#

reasonableish

unborn jasper
#

I get underpaid too much and people give too little for a complex builds

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Its like they want me to make a whole game for them for just 1,500

dark meadow
#

It was recently increased because a simple build can be $5 or 1500R$. Ask for more pay if you’re being underpaid.

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Or don’t take jobs that don’t pay as well.

unborn jasper
#

I thought this would be an arguement

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Ok

real ether
unborn jasper
#

I relit the flame i gues

dark meadow
#

No? I’m explaining our stance and why we aren’t increasing it again.

ornate wren
dark meadow
#

If they don’t have the funds to start a proper project, they should not even be in the marketplace.

unborn jasper
ornate wren
real ether
ornate wren
#

or that no devs should

real ether
#

Then there's no purpose to finding long-term developers and rather just commissions.

dark meadow
real ether
dark meadow
#

That’s our exact minimum and will not be changing.

real ether
#

Would that make the post get accepted.

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Cause these marketplace rules or standards make no sense anymore.

dark meadow
#

It has to be reasonable. FGR is not allowed and is usually defined by percentages.

unborn jasper
#

Change the USD ammount to minimum wage

ornate wren
#

1500R$

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so if 1500 is enough for that task, yes

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else, no

dark meadow
unborn jasper
dark meadow
#

For now the MP is staying the same until we see fit.

real ether
real ether
#

That you're pretty much preventing up-coming projects from finding developers.

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unless they're successful / released which makes the marketplace even more useless.

unborn jasper
#

video killed the radio start!11!11

ornate wren
#

i dont think itd get so much use if it were as useless as you claim

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if its useless to people not willing to invest in devs, then thats fine by us

real ether
#

You said yourself you decline 99% of the percentage posts.

unborn jasper
real ether
#

Meaning only successful / released projects can offer %

ornate wren
#

correct

#

an unreleased project is worth 0, 10% of 0 is worth 0, so its like putting 0 in the payment field

real ether
#

Which in retrospect prevents the idea of "letting developers choose what $ / % they work for"

ornate wren
#

hence, we dont allow it

real ether
ornate wren
real ether
#

Which is why I offered you a compromise, a middle ground.

ornate wren
#

and we declined

real ether
#

To keep denying posts that will waste time.

dark meadow
#

We also have to have some sort of standards in the mp, most lower payment posts have no grammar and no seriousness at all.

real ether
ornate wren
real ether
#

But what about the more serious projects?

#

They're being declined just because they offer % as compensation.

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And to even have a chance to have them be approved we need to attach previously successful games?

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which I can do but only found out today through deepforce and mine argument

ornate wren
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as i said, not formally listed but something we tend to allow since its a sign that you know what youre doing

dark meadow
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If there is no financial backing when posts only offer percentages, we will not accept them. Which is why hard payment has to be offered additional to the percentage. It’s not that hard to understand and we are explaining oversimplified reasonings to our decisions. I refuse to debate more with this topic as we have beat the horse dead out of it.

unborn jasper
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ornate wren
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i too shall leave it, or try my best to. adios

real ether
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Understood.

dark meadow
dark meadow
real ether
dark meadow
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I beg to disagree, and if over stated it countless times how is it hard to understand? Your rephrase is not realistic.

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You are pestering us because you can not afford a simple or reasonable payment of at least R$1500 and have no financial backing. Why offer percentages and bid on the game of doing good, when the game can do shit and the developers put 100s of hours, and they do not get paid? How is that fair to the developer? Anyways chao Wave

real ether
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Who stated that I couldn't afford a reasonable payment of R$1500

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and we have financial backing and successful projects too.

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At the end of the day I assume you're the people that decide if a game has potential or not correct?

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Because of your opinion posts are being declined.

dark meadow
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So why not pay upfront so developers don’t have to worry about getting paid 6 months down the road if the game happens to make money?

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Kinda weird if you ask me

real ether
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Because % is what we're offering?

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I don't think that's uncommon but correct me if I'm wrong

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dark meadow
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It’s uncommon that projects make money after development, which is why we don’t allow percentages.

real ether
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weird.

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eitherway don't let me take up anymore of your time, I see that there's no common sense

dark meadow
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You’re a creative lead and don’t understand this??

real ether
frank wedge
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Hi, i would like to report a scammer that has scammed my friend for 10k robux i can provide proof, the scammer is redguydevs, ID 648267335412744202

real ether
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You've only given me the same old responses

dark meadow
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I’ve been on numerous projects which is why I’ve brought great experience and common sense to the marketplace.

ornate wren
real ether
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I've stated countless times that I do agree with specific incidents / occasions.

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However there's times where that rule does more bad than good.

dark meadow
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Can you specify?

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Where it does more bad?

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@glass arrow hi lol

real ether
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So the marketplace team prevents troll as well as time wasting posts which is completely fair and keeps the posts from clutter.

dark meadow
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Also please reply to my messages because I’m doing homework and won’t be actively reading

unborn jasper
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real ether
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However there's times where you simply reject projects from finding developers because you can't be bothered to check if they have potential?

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Preventing them from getting the people they need to actually finish their projects just because they offered % as compensation?

dark meadow
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We are not allowed to check for proof of funds where it would make our argument absolute, but we get in trouble from discord for asking for personal information.

real ether
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Again like I said I don't believe it's un-natural to compensate with % even in an unreleased project.

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And to add on it's up to the developer to decide if they'd like to work for a % or not correct?

dark meadow
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We are still in charge of developer safety and reduce the amount of workload for the scam department when we can.

glass arrow
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What's the issue exactly

unborn jasper
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Me

frank wedge
unborn jasper
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Im the issue

real ether
dark meadow
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He’s pestering about us not allowing people to offering percentages by themselves

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Without any other of payment

brisk swallow
dark meadow
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I’ve explained so much why we don’t allow it

glass arrow
dark meadow
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And so did deepforce

ornate wren
brisk swallow
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it doesn't matter what you think or what others servers do

unborn jasper
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real ether