#pc-build-help

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drowsy mural
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The brand HP

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That kind of icon

blissful anvil
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ah, nah

drowsy rapids
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If you want to start from scratch then the system you posted is pretty fine base, as long you do the modifications I said which would come at probs still under 1k. Your system is better in some aspects, but I know pre build cases and PSU are pretty bad.

blissful anvil
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can run most games, not elden ring or warhammer, those sort of games

sacred moat
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I love how, on certain websites, they sell hp computer as "dy" x)

drowsy mural
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Oh?

sacred moat
still vessel
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cpy cooler?

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cpu*

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any recommendations?

sacred moat
still vessel
sacred moat
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Oh f

still vessel
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oops link

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slide it in dms

sacred moat
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The bot removed my link

still vessel
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yeah

sacred moat
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It was Amazon fr anyway :(

still vessel
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its aight

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u know the name?

sacred moat
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Check for Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz

still vessel
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aight thx man

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Sal said cooler is bad too

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im guessing cpu coller

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cooler*

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ill look for more

sacred moat
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Default one from AMD is not bad

still vessel
sacred moat
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Like for 7 or 9, there are addressable RGB and stuff

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Very cool

still vessel
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damn

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hm

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is the cosiar vengance

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does it have

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a white option

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tryna go for full white build

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gpu is pink but its fine

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Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600MHz

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seems good

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Ill look for another power supply too thx sal

drowsy rapids
still vessel
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Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler yum

still vessel
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199 for the cosiar

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dayum

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u think i should go for the cosiar vengance 3600MHz ddr4 ram?

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thats it im going everything Cosiar

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kike replacements

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their shi is gooddd

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~Updated~
CASE
KEDIERS PC Case - ATX Tower Tempered Glass Gaming Computer Case with 9 ARGB Fans,C590
MOTHERBOARD
CVN B560M GAMING FROZEN V20 motherboard LGA 1200 usb2.0 sata3 reg memory ecc support and xeon processor E5-2670 2690CPU 4ddr3
RAM
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600MHz C18, Illuminated Desktop Memory Kit (10 Individually Addressable RGB LEDs, Wide Compatibility, Optimised for Bandwidth & Response Times) White
CASE COOLING FANS
Coolmoon 120mm 5V ARGB Cooling Fan Mute PC Computer Case Cooler With IR Remote Heat sink PWM RGB Radiator For Gamer Cabinet Fans
POWER SUPPLY
Corsair CX650F RGB, 80 PLUS Bronze Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (80 PLUS Bronze Certified, 120 mm RGB Fan, Optimised for Low Noise, 105°C Japanese Capacitors, Compact 140 mm Long Casing) White 650W
CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 R5 5600 3.5 GHz Six-Core Twelve-Thread CPU Processor 7NM 65W L3=32M 100-000000927 Socket AM4
GPU
RTX 3070 ti YESTON Sakura custom gpu design 3 fans

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@drowsy rapids @sacred moat 🙂

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Thanks guys <33

hallow chasm
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CASE
Invasion 5200C MATX
MOTHERBOARD
Gigabyte H410m H V2
RAM
Kingston Fury Beast DDR4
CASE COOLING FANS
NZXT X53 AIO
POWER SUPPLY
Corsair RM750 750W
CPU
Pentium Gold G6405
GPU

drowsy rapids
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You will be limited by the case regardless for a GPU.

drowsy rapids
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By rules of Discord, Steam and Ebay it's banned to sell a Steam account.

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As in, the account WILL get banned.

stark swift
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Hi. I don't know which ram came up with this restriction, but how long do I have to wait for unlocking? I've been waiting for 2 weeks.

abstract elk
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Is it possible to have the cpu’s integrated graphics render, and my Neolithic gpu just output video? In case it matters, my cpu is an i5-3470, and the gpu is an nvidia quadro nvs 290

still vessel
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any suggestions??

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mainling for gaming

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a little bit of editing

blissful anvil
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Anyone got a good pc build - prebuilt or not - for budget streaming/gaming? Around 700-1000

flat lynx
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For anyone wanting to buy an SSD, 2TBs are going on sale right now on Amazon. I've seen some as low as $90.

stuck glade
thin citrus
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anyone here tried the 4090gpu?

drowsy rapids
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why ?

river bronze
thin citrus
drowsy rapids
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Depends what you want to do with the system

thin citrus
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gaming obvs

drowsy rapids
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Then 4090 might be overkill if you going to do nothing else unless you really want best of the best

vagrant lynx
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Yeah, 4090 is pretty overkill for gaming. 4080 should be all you need until the 5000 series releases

river bronze
river bronze
wicked moth
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Is the official number from AMD usually you can overclock more thou it is not recommended

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That 5200 means this is the max speed it will run stable. Everything beyond this number ain't our fault

drowsy rapids
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Which is still weird because the much cheaper models of Intel 13th gen has official support up to 5600 but have no issues with 6000 either.

final inlet
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If I am running a 144 hz 2k monitor what graphics card should I use

simple bay
# vagrant lynx Yeah, 4090 is pretty overkill for gaming. 4080 should be all you need until the ...

If I was to get a brand new PC that could handle everything well, what would you recommend? I'm not planning on getting it anytime soon, but I'll note it down.
All I know is that I'd say for gaming, it'd need to be a minimum of at least 60FPS+, 16GB+ Memory, Ultra Fast WiFi, Quality Settings; All Games, 1080 x 1920 Resolution+, personally, I'd choose NVIDIA, ||(but I really don't know the difference between any of them, I just like how smooth the NVIDIA app / GeForce Experience looks & the way the settings are).||, & Windows 10 or 11, I've also heard tonnes of good things about the SSD Disk Drive, & I wouldn't know what to choose for the GPU & CPU, I don't really know the differences between them all, is the higher the digit, 3080 for example, the higher that digit, the more of the latest quality kind of GPU that would be? Also, what's CPU?

paper moat
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basically if you're going for extreme gaming you would want to go Nvidia 4090 and Intel latest. You can google CPU single core performance to see the most current postings of current relations to gaming. However, if you're wanting multi-thread as-in you have one rig to run gaming and streaming then the latest amd 7950x is great at multi-thread. I personally wouldn't go above 32-64gb 2 stick of ddr5 on the latest amd 7000 due to early adoption issues above that. Nvidia 3080 is a great option but still cannot figure out how scalpers are pricing them so high. I'm currently holding out on updating to the nvidia 4000 series due to the new 12 pin gpu power connector issues. You can see videos on this from youtuber gamersnexus.

simple bay
paper moat
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no worries. Ask as many questions. There is no such thing as a dumb question if it's honest.

simple bay
simple bay
paper moat
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Nvidia is the leading in GPU technology.. Intel ARC is garbagge. AMD GPU is meh.

simple bay
paper moat
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yep

drowsy rapids
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Their drivers updates fixed those gpus to be at this point the value king even does RT better than either Nvidia and amd at a much cheaper price.

drowsy rapids
drowsy rapids
simple bay
pure juniper
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Whats the best pc for $2200

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Gaming and streaming and work

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But i want more on the gaming side

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And 3 tb storage

simple bay
pure juniper
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Okay but tbh fuck that work i want all gaming actually my bad for changing my mind alot

drowsy rapids
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Stuff like case, I mean you will have to figure out yourself which ones you like, but usually between 90 and 130 for most major brands you can't go that wrong. Another option is look at Gamers Nexus list on best cases and pick there 1 you like.

blissful anvil
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swapping the graphics card to this will be good?

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or is this good?

drowsy rapids
blissful anvil
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Is the pc in the pic good?

lyric willow
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ASD

wicked yew
blissful anvil
weak compass
pure juniper
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how to add custom links on pcpartpicker?

vagrant lynx
weak compass
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"Add Custom Part"

vagrant lynx
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Ah, well there ya go

light ridge
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And they sometimes validate it and will change the name or description or the picture to what they link

still vessel
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nasas been real quiet after this build dropped 🥶

river idol
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Guys, does any know is it practical to use two 8GB ram with two 16gb ram sticks? Same brand and same frequencies, just different RAM size.

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I used to have 4 8gb ram, but one of them is damaged recently 😦

sacred moat
river idol
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like putting them on 1,3 and 2,4?

drowsy rapids
river idol
dim osprey
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Hello everyone

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I7-12700F pair with 3080 10gb will bottleneck one of this component at 2K resolution ?

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or i5-13500 with 3080 10gb at 2k ?

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and what about 1080p with this cpus/gpu ?

drowsy rapids
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12700f defo won't bottleneck it at 2k, ppl think too much about bottlenecks with cpus and gpus. Unless you play at 1080 and have a cpu of the last like 4 years you really shouldn't worry too much atm.

calm birch
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safe tartan
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im looking at upgrading my cpu from a Ryzen 7 2700 to possibly a Ryzen 7 7700x should i go with the X3D version or just the regular 7700x

drowsy rapids
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Whatever you kinda feel like, either option will be really good. Just remember that X3D isn't supported for all games and that you defo need the most up to date drivers for it.

safe tartan
shell stirrup
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guys do you know PackGod

dim osprey
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This setup sounds great or ?

weak compass
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If you change GPU to 4070 Ti, you'll want to look for a PSU that is PCIe 5 compliant, as well.

dim osprey
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But thank you for your idea catspin

weak compass
dim osprey
blissful anvil
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what shall i upgrade?

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i have 32gb ram but the other stick doesnt work

weak compass
blissful anvil
weak compass
blissful anvil
vagrant lynx
calm birch
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drowsy rapids
blissful anvil
drowsy rapids
blissful anvil
gleaming dirge
blissful anvil
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im tryna upgrade my little sisters pc could anyone tell me a good gpu for a Biostar H61MGV3 motherboard? i dont want to make it too expensive or to strong since she doesnt play such games that require any high end gpus

drowsy rapids
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Then look at last gen GPUs, they go for rather cheap atm.

blissful anvil
drowsy rapids
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Anything from a 3060/3060ti/3070, 6800/6800XT etc.

blissful anvil
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damn that might be too much for her

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and i dont think it will go with the socket

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she has a LGA 1155

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would a gtx 750 be good?

gentle jay
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XD

fringe lantern
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whats actual best cpu and gpu for a 600 € budget ?

woeful kestrel
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Whats the best possible PC i can BUY (idk how to build) with a $7500.00 CANADIAN dollar budget

Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU heavily preferred ❤️

vagrant lynx
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AMD CPU, yes.
AMD graphics, hell no

vagrant lynx
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I think

dim osprey
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GPU lifespan is 5 to 10y and for the CPU is 10y+ ?

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And a SSD can live for 20y ? Is this really true ? birbwow

weak compass
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I would say all of the above are subject to usage

weak compass
drowsy rapids
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Even then a couple of times AMD GPUs kill themselves by pretty poor post launch support, kinda wish it was better myself tbh.

weak compass
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My hope is that both AMD and Intel get their shit together and force Nvidia to cut these ridiculous prices.

drowsy rapids
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Nvidia has pretty normal prices for their performance.

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4080 is only 100 more expensive than 7900XTX here and at least it will work in all games.

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It's always nvidia prices this nvidia prices that, let's talk about the useless 7900XT that has no reason to exist and is overpriced to oblivion xD.

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You would get more value out of a 4070ti than you would out of a 7900XT, like you know a GPU is crazy bad value when you instantly drop it in price after launch.

weak compass
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🤣

weak compass
weak compass
drowsy rapids
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That's crazy lol

weak compass
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4080's are anywhere between $1299-$1599 USD

drowsy rapids
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Then a 7900XTX should be priced at around 800 lol, you are basically asking for a 4080 below a 3080 price something that we have never seen ever before.

weak compass
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3080's were 999-1199

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At least the Ti's

drowsy rapids
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Even today the 3080 is still 900 ish

weak compass
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Would be close to impossible to find a new one here in the US without getting scalped online.

drowsy rapids
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Then means all stocks were already sold out and scalping no longer happens on them.

weak compass
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Bought a 3080 Ti for $1129

drowsy rapids
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2 years ago isn't 2023

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Where an used 3080 is like 600

weak compass
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It'll continue on for as long as there is a demand for it

drowsy rapids
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Scalping is a byproduct of high demand

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There is no high demand nor a high stock for it

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This is why you can get brand new 3080s for 900 or below in a lot of places

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Used they are like 550/600

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Remember this is a GPU that used to be 1600

weak compass
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I never saw a 3080 for 1600

drowsy rapids
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Ppl buying 3080s for like 1500 and then gonna complain about a 4080 for 1300 crazy world we live in.

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I have seen them up to 1700 in shops after they launched

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Online they went +2k

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Oh actually, the 3080 ROG strix was in summer 2021 1800 in shops here and they somehow still sold them.

sand flax
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you guys know any good HDMI TO DP adapter that I can buy

weak compass
sand flax
weak compass
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weak compass
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The title is prob fucked up. I know I saw them sell an HDMI to DP.

sand flax
tame fractal
sand flax
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Right now in the US

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but when I search it up on Amazon I only see DP to HDMI

tame fractal
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Isn't that what you need?

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If someone told you it needs to be HDMI to DP and not DP to HDMI they are trolling you.

If you see a cord available for sale that says HDMI to DP or DP to HDMI that is what you need.

drowsy rapids
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Hdmi to dp or dp to hdmi is the same lol.

bronze escarp
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hello. ı downloaded wemode app for age of empires. but ı cant activated cheats. there is a button ''load game''

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could you help me to find out please*

dim osprey
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Asus or EVGA ?

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I mean: Asus TUF RTX 3070 or EVGA RTX 3070 FTW3 Ultra Gaming ?

dim osprey
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If I may ask

drowsy rapids
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No difference with either

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TUF was the most searched after GPU for a reason though, together with the strix during the 30 series reign.

vagrant lynx
drowsy rapids
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They are the same GPU, clock speeds don't really matter much really.

vagrant lynx
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Considering that's boosted clock speed anyway, that's fair

drowsy rapids
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But iirc the FTW3 has like a clock of 1815 and the TUF which you shows is 1845 xD

vagrant lynx
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ssssshhhh

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Either way, they both have an extra HDMI port, right?

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Compared to the EVGA one, I mean

drowsy rapids
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The TUF has 2 yeah

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But I mean do many ppl still use more than 1 HDMI ? xD

vagrant lynx
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I do. Multiple monitors

drowsy rapids
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IMO unless a GPU is really bad, like zotac kind of bad then just pick whichever you like the looks of the most tbh.

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Most ppl with multiple monitors use DP

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Because of the higher bandwith

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Which means less compression (even though really isn't much difference now)

vagrant lynx
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Let me correct myself - One older monitor that doesn't use DP, my Elgato capture card and my VR headset

drowsy rapids
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Imagine a VR headset with a HDMI HyperNeko

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But yeah in your situation the the extra HDMI would defo a thing to look at.

vagrant lynx
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As far as I'm aware, all VR headsets still use HDMI?

drowsy rapids
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Even though you could still buy like a HDMI to DP cable

vagrant lynx
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Valve Index does

drowsy rapids
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Quest 2 doesn't

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Wireless or USB C

vagrant lynx
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Eh, I gave up on Oculus

dim osprey
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@vagrant lynx @drowsy rapids @weak compass Thank you for the info catspin

vagrant lynx
sand flax
drowsy rapids
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Would be the first time I ever heard that

sand flax
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Just can you send me a product that you know for sure can adapt HDMI to DP I have 2 monitors and having one is HDMI and the other DP is so annoying because of the screen different resolution

tame fractal
sand flax
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My monitor have to slot for hdmi and one slot for dp

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I have one monitor in dp and the other in hdmi 1

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Which Is this one

tame fractal
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Got a best buy near you?

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WAIT, I read that wrong okay so you have a monitor that is DP Already? and another that is HDMI Only.

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If your monitor Has DP Just use that for your DP in you GPU, Then Use the HDMI in the other slot of your gpu. No need to be buying DP to HDMI cords.

flat lynx
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DP is not an active signal that can go backwards and forwards. It is not an interchangeable signal, like HDMI. Thus, HDMI does not output to DP. (Through normal means at least; you'd need a bunch of converters and adapters)

static warren
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Yea that must be why they have hdmi to dp ports

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(just one is needed)

flat lynx
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Well, I mean, it only goes one way. If you connect an HDMI from your GPU into a monitor that only supports DP, you won't get signal lol. The direct source HAS to be DP. It doesn't work the other way.

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That was in reply to a post a few days back from backreading

static warren
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Fair, thought it was in response to the current conversation

flat lynx
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Still kinda is, as most folks just immediately think that DP <-> HDMI lol.

sand flax
drowsy rapids
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You can still buy a DP to HDMI adapter and it will work fine.

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All you have to do is making sure the signal from the GPU is DP and not HDMI and put it into a HDMI port on your monitor.

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And with the comments of "it's the same" that statement is correct based on the question asked...There is a reason why the adapter is always DP to HDMI, but titles can be funky and usually they are the same because the adapters are always made the same. HyperNeko

tame fractal
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What im saying is that if he has 1 DP slot on his GPU and 4 HDMI and One monitor with DP/HDMI and another with JUST HDMI, why would you go buy a DP to HDMI adapter.

drowsy rapids
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Yeah no one knows that here, we only tried to help him omgomgomg

mild cedar
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tender bough
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Hey guys hope u doin fine, i was looking for some liquid cooling 240 for my ryzen 5 7600x cpu what should i get that has no leaking and keeps the temp very low?

blissful anvil
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Hi guys

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This mobo can peform great temps on I7-12700 Non-K ?

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Asus Rog Strix B660-A GAMING WIFI D4

crimson forge
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I hate to be the person who goes "go do your research", so lemme see

static warren
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Mobo won't fix your temps ever

crimson forge
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Some will be better in compatibility

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But its nothing to spend hundreds over

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@blissful anvil Tell you what, all you have to do is get some proper thermal paste, most kinds work as long as you don't go for something that is definitely not thermal paste, and a proper radiator

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That CPU/MOBO duo will work perfectly fine together

blissful anvil
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I heard pretty good things about this CPU Cooler

crimson forge
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Those are good, but make sure you dont get the wood colored one

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Look trash unless your entire setup is themed around it

drowsy rapids
tender bough
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Cooler master ml240l argb is kinda my choice, and thank you for your help

drowsy rapids
# blissful anvil This mobo can peform great temps on I7-12700 Non-K ?

Your case will matter more with temps than literally anything else... deciding factor of PC temps goes like this: Ambient > case > airflow > fans > hardware. Ambient will decide your base line no matter what... a case with proper logic for airflow will be the biggest factor below that... airflow aka if you go negative or the traditional way... how good your fans are and then how hot your hardware is... like a beafy CPU and GPU will dramatically increase it's temps.

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The only part that doesn't matter here is your motherboard... because it generates basically 0.02 % of your entire temp, neither does it decide how well it can cool any other part.

steady juniper
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hi

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iwent help

tame fractal
sacred moat
blissful anvil
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Im tryna buy a mouse which one should i get Logitech 102 or 203

drowsy rapids
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Iirc they are both kinda the same mouse.

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The 203 has an upgraded sensor though, so it might be more accurate and responsive.

fresh ether
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HI

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iwent help

autumn warren
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How was it Husam?

fresh ether
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I forgot to cancel the trial period

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After three experimental days

tame fractal
fresh ether
blissful anvil
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Hello everyone

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the letters for motherboard: B,H,Z; what this means in term of performance,VRM ? (I plan to buy i7-12700 non-K or F with Asus ROG STRIX B660-A GAMING WIFI D4)

grave apex
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My downloaded wemod shows offline when I run it, why?

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Can anyone help?

dim osprey
dim osprey
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Wait for another opinion if ya want @blissful anvil

blissful anvil
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Hii

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How yall are?

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Ion know if i am at the correcT channel

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But i need help with a mod

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Evil dead´s one

vagrant lynx
blissful anvil
edgy thunder
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What's a good PC brand

blissful anvil
blissful anvil
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drowsy rapids
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AMD does use different letter sheme though so don't apply them on all boards for AMD it's: X high end, B generic mid range and A budget.

blissful anvil
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@drowsy rapids you are a genius XD

dim osprey
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Hi everyone

crimson forge
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Hi

dim osprey
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What's the differance between SCl,MLC,TLC and QLC for SSD s ?

crimson forge
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Uh

drowsy rapids
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The amount of cells

dim osprey
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I have a Samsung 870 Evo SATA 3 and it is TLC and MLC ?

dim osprey
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So QLC is better ?

drowsy rapids
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Not always

crimson forge
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Well, the more cells means that the data is denser. Sure, you can compile more, but then its more likely that the data can be corrupted

drowsy rapids
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Sometimes they are also slower, which means it's worse.

crimson forge
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Mid-range for most things hardware can be best

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Unless its m.4

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If you can afford m.4 SSDs and you mobo can handle them, go for them

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The only issue with it is that it might not be able to hold as much data as a standalone SSD, but the insane speed it has makes up for it

drowsy rapids
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HIgher cells usually means a tad slower and with it also a tad less reliable overtime.

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Iirc the most used if TLC with nand these days.

crimson forge
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I’ve held onto my SSD for years, and it’s still going strong. I likely need to get a new one soon though

drowsy rapids
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It will go poof at some point, because they do have a limited life cycle.

crimson forge
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yep

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i built it summer 2020

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so far the only things replaced has been the gpu

drowsy rapids
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Then you will be fine lol

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Takes usually 5 to 10 years to get to the actual limit of the drive for most generic use.

crimson forge
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I’m saving up to do a swap to amd from intel, I already have my parts planned out

drowsy rapids
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Idk if that's the smartest choice atm

crimson forge
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How? I’m saving up, not wasting all of my money right now

drowsy rapids
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Because Intel is just the tad better platform atm

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More stable and less expensive, with AMD slow roll out of budget options.

dim osprey
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Samsung 870 evo sata 3 use tlc if I'm not wrong

crimson forge
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Wellll

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I currently have an i3

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so yeah

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i3 9th gen

dim osprey
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That thing cost me 100 euros so for that kind of money,I hope it will last me long enough catspin

drowsy rapids
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Samsung generally is the best you can get on the consumer market

dim osprey
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I love to hear this 🙂

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Thank you guys

crimson forge
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I got my iphone 12 pro max used for only 100

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Its actually really good

dim osprey
crimson forge
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If iPhones were the same price as samsungs, it would be easier to compare them

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What I dont like about samsung is that, unless you know your way around the entirety of the phone, you’re gonna be bombarded with ads and preloaded apps and such

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But if you do know your way around it

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Samsungs are dangerously fun

dim osprey
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Have u ever had a S10 or S20 or 22 ?

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And what do you think about Note9 or 10 ?

drowsy rapids
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Iphones have more preloaded apps and ads than any android will.

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Mainly because Apple locks them in their own ecosystem, so literally every app preloaded is of them. Funny enough Alphabet lost a massive monopoly lawsuit not that long ago because they had just Google and Play store on android phones... idk how Apple didn't get sued either tbh.

dim osprey
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Wow...Didn't know :/

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I never had a Iphone so idk what to say about them

tame fractal
crimson forge
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Still, I prefer general utility apps such as notes and app store and general things used in iOS and MacOS such as iTunes to be preloaded rather than a facebook app that cant be removed

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Only iTunes, app store, and apple store actually use your data in any minor way. Meanwhile facebook and google apps are leeches preinstalled on your personal drvice

blissful anvil
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@drowsy rapids It is true, that every SSD can live long like 10 to 20 years only if you read on it ?

blissful anvil
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Amazing choice anyway

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I guess that's the best SATA 3 from Samsung

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I bet you bought the 1TB one

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Right ?

drowsy rapids
dim osprey
blissful anvil
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SSD can die fast then a HDD ?

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Doesn't make any sense because SSD doesn't have mechanical things inside it.

fading ridge
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guys

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will my pc get hurt/damaged if i let it stay on overnight?

winter lichen
fading ridge
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what if i just want to download something overnight?

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i dont have watercooling

winter lichen
fading ridge
#

yeah i have a 3060 and 32 gb ram and i5 prossesor

winter lichen
fading ridge
#

so if i download something from steam and put on sleep mode its gonna be okay?

winter lichen
fading ridge
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ok lemme check

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ok

winter lichen
# fading ridge

That should be okay, i would look into undervolting your pc though

fading ridge
#

whats undervolting

winter lichen
# fading ridge whats undervolting

Undervolting is the opposite of overclocking. When you undervolt your GPU you are reducing the overall voltage, your GPU receives from the power supply.

fading ridge
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how do i do that lmao

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do i copy the settings?

winter lichen
fading ridge
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i dont have much time tho

winter lichen
# fading ridge i dont have much time tho

Can be later on or tomorrow as he has to get to work soon and hes on the phone anyways, as for tonight your pc should be fine just have it set to go to sleep after an hour

fading ridge
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ill add you and dm you or ping you tmr

winter lichen
fading ridge
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ok

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its 2 am rn

winter lichen
tame fractal
# fading ridge ok

Just make a sleep feature on your windows, So after like an hour of no usage it goes to sleep.

#

do not play with voltages if you have no idea what you are doing

winter lichen
tame fractal
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Your PC will be fine left on over night, No need to get crazy with things.
Turn on your sleep feature and download your game. Your pc will sleep when its done.

drowsy rapids
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Shows that this person sadly has little knowledge if it start to give such kind of advise lol.

short flower
fading ridge
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it did

blissful anvil
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@drowsy rapids What do you mean by ''hard data limit'' ?
SSD can die fast then a HDD ?
Doesn't make any sense because SSD doesn't have mechanical things inside it.

drowsy rapids
blissful anvil
wispy gate
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my pc randomly freezes once when i run it after force shutdown theres no more crashes how do i fix this

tame fractal
wispy gate
tame fractal
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Search on your search bar

wispy gate
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and then

tame fractal
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if you don't remember what time it happened you can wait for it to do it again and just remember the time it froze.

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but it should give you some indication as to wait failed and caused the freeze.

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Have you ever had a BSOD?

wispy gate
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is it normal to have alot of warnings in a few hours

tame fractal
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Yeah

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Just next time it freezes, crashes or restarts just look at your event viewer.

wispy gate
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also

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if i wait long enough without force shutdown a BSOD appears

tame fractal
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Could be bad ram, overheating, corrupted windows, dying harddrive.

wispy gate
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k

drowsy rapids
tame fractal
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@wispy gate

wispy gate
drowsy rapids
# wispy gate ?

How old is this PC and did you do anything to it before it started to happen... for example a hardware change ?

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Because that error is almost always related to RAM or PSU on the hardware side and malware or start up issues on the software side.

wispy gate
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the crashing started when i got my pc

drowsy rapids
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(I assume you did it here and not someone else)

wispy gate
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before

drowsy rapids
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You have had this for ages and only just now look for a solution ?

wispy gate
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not only now

drowsy rapids
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Idk doesn't make much sense anymore.

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You got the issues from the beginning and didn't think of else taking it back or if you build yourself check if all parts were working properly?

blissful anvil
glad spire
#

Hey guys. I have an AMD ryzen 9 system and need a new GPU. 6650 or 3060 ti? I can't make up my mind

drowsy rapids
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3060ti is better compared to a 6650

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Idk why you mention which CPU you have though HyperNeko

lament cargo
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@lament cargo

cosmic quail
#

Since you have a high end CPU, you should pair it with higher end GPU too to take full advantage of your Ryzen 9, look around the 3070-3090 range. But if you have to choose between the two options, 3060 Ti is definitely better.

drowsy rapids
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Depends a Ryzen 9 system can be a lot of different CPUs....

glad spire
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My budget for 3070 is not going to work, too overpriced. 12000,- NOK, is too much.

tame fractal
#
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its only 4102.82 NOK

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and its got more VRAM then a standard 3070

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drowsy rapids
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There is no such GPU as a 3060 super

tame fractal
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Lol

drowsy rapids
#

That's not a super, they don't exist 😛

tame fractal
#

Didn’t they just stop naming them super?

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The OC 12G would technically be a super tho?

drowsy rapids
#

Nope

tame fractal
#

Wasn’t super just another term for OC?

drowsy rapids
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No lol

tame fractal
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Oh lol I thought it was just a fancy word they like to throw in there

drowsy rapids
#

The supers had actual more cores

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OC models are just base silicon that won the lottery so they get factory OC'd.

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For example the ROG strix and TUF are the exact same GPU, however the chips that can be pushed to strix levels get put into that pile and the ones that don't become TUF cards. Same with other models the "OC" ones are just chips that were able to push further beyond it's base clocks. Aka they basically ask you money to have the GPU overclocked in the factory.

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Is why the best GPU on the market of the same model will be at most like 5-8 % better than the cheapest model.

glad spire
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@tame fractalJust a problem, gotta pay 40% tax to get that card from amazon to me. And I loose my 5 year waranty for not buying it from a Norwegian store.

drowsy rapids
#

You would still get 2 year warranty regardless though lol.

drowsy perch
#

I currently have TUF B450, R5 3600, 3200Mhz Vengeance Pro 2x8, 750W Seasonic +80G and TUF 4070Ti OC
I'm intending to upgrade to TUF B650, R7 7700X, 6400Mhz Fury Renegade 2x16

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what do you guys think?

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I would consider any additional advices

dim osprey
#

Hello guys

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So, RTX 4070 is out now, and it's kinda cheap in my country, what do you guya think about getting a 4070 or 4070TI instead of 3080 10gb vram ?

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The differences between 4070/TI and 3080 are 30% if I'm not wrong

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And for the prices, 3080 is more expensive xDDDD

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What do you guys think ?

drowsy perch
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buy 4070Ti

cosmic quail
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4070 is bascially a more efficient 3080 with DLSS3 available, saves u money in the long run in terms of power draw (still overpriced for a 70 series tho 🙄 thanks NVIDIA)

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Check out AMD stuff too if u want pure FPS performance as they give more bang-for-buck than team green

drowsy rapids
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Yeah but their gpus will be "useless" between 3 and 5 years lol.

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And tbh amd is no longer value king, they have falling behind massively with features they made standard, has horrible power efficiency aka drawing kuch much more than nivids....lets not forget the 7900xt exist which is as a gpu the worst value we have seen in a while. Ppl love to make the power arguing for Nvidia... If we apply that to reality then amd will cost you more overtime and by a lot.

dim osprey
#

Thank you guys

shell meadow
#

hi

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can i use cheat in neighborhood can i get ban i will only open super stats player

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??

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@burnt crater

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help me

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bro

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can i use cheat in neighborhood can i get ban i will only open super stats player

sacred moat
crimson forge
#

Mfw I have 1 SSD and only have enough storage for 5 AAA games at any point, stupid American-made games taking up over 100gb. Should I upgrade to a more efficient storage (idk how, just there for sake of choice) or should I double up on storage? The issue for me is that I have no clue on if I need to download windows on the new SSD or not, and if it adds a layer of unnecessary complexity that isn't worth the time, such as issues in transferring data across the two or accessing both at once.

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Also, when Newegg says "from China", does that mean that it'll be shipped from China or that it was made in China?

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I don't think a MTBF of 1mil hours is real

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straight up 114 year lifetime

tame fractal
crimson forge
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Even at 1tb

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Well

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WHy is there a distinction between 2TB and 2048GB even if the GB is more?

tame fractal
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so 2048 is 2

crimson forge
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Apologies

tame fractal
#

and such forth

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np

crimson forge
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Corrected it

tame fractal
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but i use a 500gb for my windows only and have a 2t and 1t nvme ssd

crimson forge
#

Interesting

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To what extent is it challenging to transfer everything non-windows from one SSD to another?

tame fractal
#

@drowsy rapids
This lad can help you if you decided to go with it.
To me its easy lol i can't speak for yourself.

drowsy rapids
crimson forge
drowsy rapids
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There is 1 way of doing it rather easy though and that's if you have Samsung drives

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Samsung Magician let you transfer data from 1 drive to another pretty easy, but for that both drives need to be Samsung ones.

crimson forge
#

Unfortunately, I use Kingston, which is powerful while staying relatively cheap

drowsy rapids
#

But it really depends what exactly you want to do imo, drives is something that you can generally very easy switch around and experiment with. Unlike other hardware

crimson forge
#

Is there a software that I can use that is able to tell me what is taking up the majority of space on my SSD? I already totaled up my games and they take up nowhere close to the max storage, even with OS in mind. Yet, I have 55gb left on my 2TB SSD

vagrant lynx
#

I've used it at work plenty of times

sacred moat
smoky shuttle
#

My choice

sacred moat
#

3 possibilities x)

hot tapir
#

Why is it that when I want to connect to the Sons of the Forest server I can't do it and I can't do it only when I have WEDMOD on and if it's the fault that I didn't update it So how do I update it?

jovial jewelBOT
#

WeMod does not condone cheating in multiplayer or co-op game modes. If the mods work in multiplayer it is not intended and we are not responsible for any consequences that may result from using the trainers online.

hot tapir
#

ok

abstract sage
#

Hello Iam an older fella and was looking to purchase FPS monitor to show key and mouse binds on pc games and programs at full screen and was wondering is there anything else out there that can overlay with with or with out FPS?

jovial jewelBOT
olive socket
#

hi i heard rtx 4060ti is gonna be released so it's a waste to buy 3060ti right now?

static warren
#

It'll be more expensive

crimson portal
#

Cuz i didn't wait and i bought 3080 rtx

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Big mistake 😭

drowsy rapids
#

Idk why it would be a big mistake, the 3080 is the best valued GPU on the market atm

quaint prawn
#

How to launch trainer for steam version Ghost Reacon Breakpoint?

warm linden
#

launch wemod app and go to your gasmes section at top look for your ghost recon breakpoint game and make sure you slect steam under title of game and then click play on far right will launch your game for you and injuect mods for you to enable them

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sorry for typos was eating trolli's lol

quaint prawn
#

Do i need to install anything else?

warm linden
#

no i would check the dicussion forum for that game to ensure the mods are still working when loading the game does it say anything like the mods are out of date and load anyways cause you may have to keep trying to load the game through the wemod app

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i have had had to do that a couple times on games i play but they eventually load and i'm able to play with the mods

terse karma
blissful anvil
#

Can anybody help? Im running i7 11700, 3060ti, 16gb 3200hz ram.... But I don't feel like my computer is running as smooth as it should

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Anything I can look at?

tame fractal
blissful anvil
drowsy rapids
vast sapphire
tame fractal
#

my friend was using integrated graphics for like a year before i showed him he wasnt even using his GPU, He was going to buy a new one thinking that one sucked LOL.

vast sapphire
blissful anvil
blissful anvil
vast sapphire
#

Cus if yes, I know exactly what your issue is

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40fps is the default set for geforce experiences whisper mode

blissful anvil
vast sapphire
#

just plop a game

gentle mulch
#

My nba2k23 is crashing, does anyone know how to fix it?

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only it crashes

tame fractal
#

Did you read the “read before playing”

gentle mulch
#

Yes

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that's why it only appears in this game

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The others do not appear

ruby minnow
#

My friend wants a pc but his budget is like $600

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Help

tame fractal
ruby minnow
#

That's what I told him

tame fractal
#

Save up to 1500$ and he can get a better pc that will last longer.

ruby minnow
#

Don't cheese out on pc

ruby minnow
#

He knows pretty much nothing about pcs

drowsy rapids
#

idk depending where he lives 600 can get you really far if he doesn't mind getting used parts

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1500 is like high end PC

#

For 1000 you can get a higher mid range PC that will be able to play every triple A game at 1440p ultra with RT even on.

oak crane
#

Im about to upgrade my PC i got a RTX 280 and a cabinet that can take both ATX and ATX micro . Is there anything you would chose different in this?

Upgrade in mind:
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG Riptide

Ram: 2 x Kingston FURY Beast - 8GB - DDR5 RAM - 6000MHz

Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L V2 RGB

CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X - 4.5 GHz Processor - 8 kerner

vast sapphire
#

yeah id up the ram cus 8 gig is rather lacking with the climbing usage games are getting lately

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or is that 2 8 gig sticks, 16 is kinda ok, but i personally would rather push it to be prepared for any future releases

drowsy rapids
shadow comet
#

yeah i just upgraded to 32gb cuz 16 is just not cuting it anymore, took me playing the new resident evil not being able to play on max settings while watching a twitch stream to find that one out

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got me some trident z royals

blissful anvil
#

these are my specs, i am going to upgrade to i7-13700KF and get another 8gb ram.
anything else i should get?

drowsy rapids
blissful anvil
drowsy rapids
#

You have 24GB of RAM, which is impossible when using dual sets. It's 4,8,16,32,64 or 128.

blissful anvil
drowsy rapids
#

Might be worth to get a higher set to open up upgradability in the future. While selling the other 3 sticks to get some money back. Iirc RAm is dirt cheap atm.

vast sapphire
waxen elm
#

galera aonde que coloca o fiozinho lá de power na placa mãe 😭 😭 😭

next cove
#

I'm considering upgrading my CPU, graphic card (& monitor, since I'll make the switch to 4k). However, I'm not 100% certain about my motherboard. If I post my dxdiag here, could anybody give me a clue as what to look for?

tame fractal
next cove
rugged prairie
#

wonder when will they add pubg infinite gold soon

#

or sum

vagrant lynx
jovial jewelBOT
#

WeMod does not condone cheating in multiplayer or co-op game modes. If the mods work in multiplayer it is not intended and we are not responsible for any consequences that may result from using the trainers online.

rugged prairie
blazing hound
#

AMD vs Intel?

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My last computer crashed

#

Use zoom,steam,office360, etc

tame fractal
#

I usto be intel but I found AMD cheaper but performed just as good

blazing hound
#

Thanks

vagrant lynx
#

Agreed. AMD for CPUs

drowsy rapids
#

Unless we are talking about a am4, but no one should get that platform anymore. Am5 is buggy, potential risks, worse performance and more expensive.

blazing hound
#

Thanks

blissful anvil
#

@vast sapphire Ik you 🙂 You are an admin at SilkTeam, good job with those mods bro blushycat wemod

tame fractal
drowsy rapids
tame fractal
vast sapphire
#

can youtube it lol

vast sapphire
sick salmon
#

any one help me with my pc plzz

smoky shuttle
#

What do you need help with

sick salmon
#

i have to show you if that is ok

tame fractal
#

lets see

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kids are screaming i hear yah

#

what seems to be the problem

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just show me

#

This is not an issue with the power supply. What you're seeing in Task Manager is a feature introduced with Windows 10 version 1809 intended to help users determine which applications are likely to be using more power, based on the application's CPU and GPU load over time.

#

aslong as you dont BSOD

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your good

blissful anvil
#

13700kf, 16GB DDR5 and a Sonic B760M 4 x DDR5, 3 x M.2 Board any good?

#

from this:

► CPU: i5 10600k 4.8Ghz
► RAM: 24GB
► HDD: 10TB
► SSD: 250GB
► Nividia GeForce GTX 3070

dim osprey
pure juniper
#

Best gaming pc for $3800?

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Atleast 4tb

near vigil
#

can someone help me?

sacred moat
sacred moat
drowsy rapids
soft vector
# drowsy rapids You can literally build anything you want at that price tag, 4090 with a 13900kf...

Why in the world would you take that joke of a CPU? Cmon now AMD has taken over for anything other than gaming related, which ofc since every old pc has an Intel CPU they are more optimized. But when it comes to price to performance, get a 7950x and be done with it, ignore the 3D version, it tends to spike very high with its hotspot temperatures. I have a 7950x, 4090, UV the CPU for 5.5 GHZ standard clock. Even under load my bequiet 360mm silent 2 is keeping it <70c. The 4090 is completely overkill, pretty much never reaching over 55c, no matter what, even with the newest 3DMark stress tests.

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I use it for work through so that's that... and yes I do realize that the 13900KF will beat the 7950x by a few fps. But as said for anything and everything else nothing beats those 32 threads.

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Windows 11 is a handicap for AMD so yeah, maybe stick to windows 10 if you don't need the newer features.

drowsy rapids
#

Just because you heard some random ppl said amd was good, doesn't mean they are in every Gen and the 7000 series showed their weakness, not only did Intel take their lead back but also in a cheaper way than amd. Also Am5 platform is just bad right now. (btw the 13900k has a higher clock of 5.8 can even be easy pushed to 6, so idk why you try to sell it as a point)

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Calling the 13 series a joke is pretty ignorant imo but oh well. Also w11 hasn't handicapped the Am5 platform for months now, it handicaps itself by being the most messy and buggy platform released in years xD. Also you aren't pushing your gpu if it's only 55C even in mark, as in defo not 4k et.

sacred moat
drowsy rapids
#

I would quote tech Jesus....

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"This platform is a complete mess and we didn't realise this during our reviews because we followed our process and it worked fine. We found a lot of bugs not even related to this issue"

sacred moat
#

What platform???

drowsy rapids
#

Am5 lol

#

When they were testing for the whole burned chips debacle they looked deeper into the platform too and that was their conclusion.

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Like evem outside games Intel gave a big kick in amd butt, they have lost all advantages and that's with just moving to 10nn. Amd is at 5, so Intel will only increase it's efficiency none stop. Even back at 14nn+unlimited they were still trading blows. That tells more about Intel than amd really. Amd has been on a more efficient platform for ages and still didn't manage to run away with performance. Intel switches only 1 lower and amd lost all advantages including being cheaper.

soft vector
# sacred moat Doesn't intel have big issues with cooling the cpu? :/

Yeah they do, every single tech youtuber is saying so as well. Just like benchmark results show. For any workload outside of gaming AMD wins every day all day. Go ahead and show me the benchmark results, how many more fps does the overpriced heater give me compared to a 7950x?

drowsy rapids
#

Not going to keep letting you say BS without actually posting links at this point.

#

Especially after such damming statements of our saviour and good lord tech jesus.

soft vector
#

To make it fair its the 3D version, since the intel cpu is also the newest.

drowsy rapids
#

Nope 3d version won't count

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They use a large cache so would give it massively advantages in most benchmarks

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Which nvm that Tech jesus told you not to get atm regardless of the massive issues it has.

drowsy rapids
#

https://youtu.be/yWw6q6fRnnI you will see a vid of an actual good review where you see the 7950x lagging massively behind in gaming and the 13900k trading blows in all none gaming bechnmarks.

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soft vector
soft vector
drowsy rapids
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The differences won't matter much between the 2, because they are so close to each other

soft vector
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So when you're saying you cant take the 3D its kinda just cope

drowsy rapids
#

Oh defo not if you actually know what 3D does....

soft vector
#

Alright i see this is pointless

#

njoy

drowsy rapids
#

Especially right now when you said the 7950x was better in your own statement.

soft vector
#

And i stand by it

drowsy rapids
#

Which btw 7950x has more cache than the 13900k

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I just disproved your statement though

#

And let's go back to that 4090... which model do you have and which settings did you run at ?

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Because 55 is impossible if you actually stress test it, only under very specific circumstances it would be possible.

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Like imagine trying to shit on a whole platform and then 1 person disproving your entire statement and then running away from it when they did xD.

soft vector
#

Gigabyte Gaming OC profile

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600w unlocked

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Basically thats it.

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1300 RPM on the fans so just no Fan stop. And thats the result

drowsy rapids
#

Yeah and what was your mark test ? Because it won't have been the newest ones, that GPU runs on average 68/72.

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(Just like most GPUs do especially of that level)

soft vector
#

1 sec

drowsy rapids
#

You running on quiet bios don't you ?

soft vector
#

nope

drowsy rapids
#

Show your 3dmark result

soft vector
#

loading it up rn.

#

Works now but I changed to windows 11 so without tuning I wont reach that gpu score rn.

drowsy rapids
#

2nd test doesn't exist

soft vector
#

But to be fair the 4090 is powerfull enough on its own even with a small handicap.

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Tf u mean?

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Its 20 runs of speedway stress test...

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Look at the graph

drowsy rapids
#

The 2nd one doesn't exist.... click on it

soft vector
drowsy rapids
soft vector
#

ahh my bad its set to auto hide

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1 sec

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done

#

should be viewable

drowsy rapids
#

Whhy is your score so low

soft vector
#

Because as I said, its stock. Its just set to the OC profile and is connected directly to the psu giving it 600w.

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I dont oc

drowsy rapids
#

Neither do many others

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a 4090 average score without pushing it too hard is like 40.

#

Unless the 7950x is dragging it down that hard let me check.

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Oh wow, even the top result with a 7950x is like 35

soft vector
#

Show me, I dont believe you. When running the benchmark it shows you your system compared to the extact same cpu & gpu config, mine is apparently magically higher than others, yet you claim its too low for a 4090?

drowsy rapids
#

Even the top result loses like 3k graphical points what xD.

soft vector
#

Either way don't you have things to do?

drowsy rapids
#

Go to your own result

soft vector
#

The graphics score is close to 37k but aight

drowsy rapids
#

Click on compare, click on add results it will give you the same settings then look for 4090.

soft vector
#

ffs im not doing this pointless bs to prove something I don't give a damn about, just for your entertainment.

#

whats this?

drowsy rapids
#

Take this, this is the top 10 of the 7950x users vs the bottom top 100 of 13900k users.

soft vector
#

yeah the top 10

drowsy rapids
#

That wasn't the point

soft vector
#

"a 4090 average score without pushing it too hard is like 40."

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that was your point

#

the top 10 are not average gpus

drowsy rapids
#

Nope

soft vector
#

wtf are you thinking

soft vector
drowsy rapids
#

Sorry but try to look for that statement, the top 10 is like hard pushed the rest is defo not.

#

But the point of that one was to show the 7950x score gets hammered xD

#

The top 5 of the am5 platform barely reaches the 100th place of the Intel platform (is also a graphical benchmark so makes more sense) however is giving you an idea.

soft vector
#

I mean sure

#

Im good with that

soft vector
soft vector
#

k

drowsy rapids
#

Still wouldn't affect either screen there either.

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It would be top vs top, so if there are any. They would most likely be at the top not the bottom. omgomgomg

drowsy rapids
#

That test is invalid because lod modifications which is known to inflate numbers. (because it causes lower textures, which would also explain the 55)

soft vector
#

It was run with default drivers as I said before doesnt matter what settings i use in the nvidia control pannel, no aplication controlled nothing makes that go away.

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Wtf is ur reasoning for them being inflated, first you say they are low, now they are too high? make up your mind. I already said i reinstalled the drivers and nothing changed. It works now but when I do a run as I said ill have to make some changes since Windows 11 is dogshit for my pc, aka any AMD CPU owner. I dont care about going back to windows 10 just for 5% performance, yet you are so obsessed, at the end of the day ill just be happy with my cards performance and be happy knowing I have a 4 year warrenty.

drowsy rapids
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Not many issues at this point anymore, also it could have affected it yes doesn't mean the score still isn't high to begin with. Also remember that this started with you calling a CPU a total joke and not worth it. To then keep defending that statement with everything you got contrary to everything around it... so idk who the obsessed one is at that point imo. HyperNeko

soft vector
# drowsy rapids Not many issues at this point anymore, also it could have affected it yes doesn'...

Alright sure bud. That’s must the exact reason why when I look up I have an AMD CPU should I stay on windows 10 or on windows 11? And guess what every single result that comes out is telling me stay on windows 10 if you have an AMDCPU you lose about 5% of performance and that’s exactly what I saw when I update it. I’m fine with it because it’s not the performance that I do need I need machine learning and that I can use to 100%. I don’t give a shit about everything else it’s under warranty I’m not going to overclock it. I don’t know what you understand. It’s a $2000 GPU and you think it’s smart to just throw that warranty right out the window?

drowsy rapids
soft vector
# drowsy rapids Amd updated their drives ages ago.... Maybe you shouldn't believe old statements...

Are you drunk? Maybe next time read the TOS of your products makers, its true that the warranty void sticklers are bullshit and not lawfully enforceable, but a warranty is something different from guarantee. Warranty is something the provider of the card/cpu/motherboard etc. provides to you, its a service, that they can terminate at any reason given in the TOS. For example if you don't directly buy something off a site like ebay you are the second buyer, voiding your warranty. The person entitled with the warranty is the first person who purchased the product. Open AMD Ryzen Master or go into the bios, guess what message appears?
"What is overclocking?

It is important to note that any form of manual CPU overclocking, including using the AMD Ryzen Master Utility may damage your processor and invalidate the warranty1."

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Nearly all AMD CPU & Nvidia world record are set on windows 10, yet you deny the trend or the countless articles online saying you shouldn't update without reason to windows 11 with that reason.

soft vector
olive socket
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people are hating 4060 ti to the core but I just bought it and it's a heck of an upgrade from my 4-year old 2060 super

dawn nexus
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Hello is this a good pc for 3d rendering (blender, UE 5..etc) and gaming (valroant, spiderman.. etc)? btw I am gonna add another storage on top of the SSD so don't worry about that

drowsy rapids
# soft vector Are you drunk? Maybe next time read the TOS of your products makers, its true th...

TOS has no legal precedent in courts (was thrown out of court a couple years ago), you can overclock your hardware and keep your warranty which is legally required at this point. Like at this point I think you have just build your first PC ever, you just aren't that knowledgeable on these matters at this moment.... It's just legal saying tbh, like a company wouldn't allow auto overclocks including on the board itself (which are numbers and guidelines of AMD/Intel/Nvidia btw) to cause you lose your warranty. They just have to get every possible scenario covered in their legal text so no one can sue them over it. Like basically you already voided your warranty under those rules, enabling something like XMP or EXPO is overclocking. Even enabling something like rebar would then void your warranty too.

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Like honestly you came here to say Intel was a joke and all you have done so far is some "copium". Oh it isn't AMD fault the CPU runs worse it's MS ! (even though it was fixed by MS and AMD drivers), Oh it isn't AMD it's fault it's worse in gaming, Intel is just better !, Oh it isn't AMD fault we get much lower 3Dmark scores, It's those damned watercooled hardware (that both systems have and magically work better on Intel) ! (While you can't even read a date on a simple article and look through the drivers updates if it's already fixed at this point). Here is the first result that popped up out of your "countless articles" https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/30/23485717/microsoft-windows-11-gaming-performance-issues-fix And here are your countless vids (the first one that popped up on google) https://youtu.be/pDR0j0pa-s0

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sacred moat
drowsy rapids
sacred moat
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Don't use userbenchmarks....

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It's massively in favour of Intel

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But now try to get a board for either 😉 Try to put a Z690 vs a X670 you will see what I mean.

sacred moat
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My local part seller :/

drowsy rapids
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Now look at boards

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You can get a Z690 for like 150 ? Try to find a X670 below 300 well maybe 250 these days.

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Add that on top of those prices

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Then AM5 only works with DDR5 add those also on top of those prices.

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You can build a cheaper 13th gen PC than an AM5 PC at this moment because AMD lack of market knowledge of still supporting DDR4 which gives a huge advantages in the price market to Intel.

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And that cheaper Intel PC will still outperform that more expensive AMD PC at this moment.

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And it might by a large margin, all you save on that board and RAM you can put towards a far better GPU.

sacred moat
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I have got these:
They both support DDR5, and AM5 for the AMD one

drowsy rapids
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13th GEn also supports DDR4

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That's why you have Intel DDR4 and DDR5 boards.

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Even on the Z790 platform, you have DDR4 and DDR5 variants.

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With Intel you have a choice going from the cheaper DDR4 Option and even the cheaper boards (which has no real difference to the new ones) or go for the most expensive DDR5 option with the brand new boards.

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AMD: You get 1 choice and 1 choice only....the most expensive DDR5 and their lack of budget boards on launch has hurt their rep with it.

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So for AMD still claiming they are gamers for gamers with budget and choice.... I mean they are limiting you a whole lot with AM5 which btw wasn't even finished to release by what Tech jesus found out.

sacred moat
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Ye, its true

drowsy rapids
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LIke if you are on a budget you can just go to the Z690 platform and spend between 100 to 200 extra on your GPU, that CPU will still do the same job as on a Z790 board while you just got for example a 3080 instead of a 3070.

sacred moat
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tho, for not that much money, I got a cheap R7 2700X in 2021, because my old R3 1200 was ded

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and it works great

drowsy rapids
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Oh for AM4, AMD was killing it.

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But the company changed, they got cocky and tbh are wasting their potentional.

sacred moat
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Also, since I was doin some Linux, I prefered taking a Radeon 6600, since the NVidia equivalent were more expansive, for less compatibility

drowsy rapids
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Is all fair and fine, like I will never tell someone to not buy X brand because it has a brand name. It's so important to look at the current prices, performance, your own needs and what you expect from the product. I don't really care if someone buys AMD, Intel or Nvidia it's their own choices and they can make their own opinions on which suits them better. However when someone like that says a whole CPU/platform is a joke then I will go harder on them.

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With AMD having a more open source approach can make them better for linux users yeah, even though Nvidia also works great depending what you want to do.

sacred moat
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Also, I've kept my old RX560, and now, I can have 2 OS on my computer, one for each monitors

mental sphinx
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Are you able to, for a lack of a better term, CrossFire/SLI newer GPUs?

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Higher end GPUs of corse.

smoky shuttle
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It is mostly used for professional applications now.

spiral prawn
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oh wait

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I can get help on PC builds here

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You are welcome to suggest things, and yes I know how to custom water loop if that is in fact better

drowsy rapids
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10k

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is my actual budget

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but I would like to avoid water loops

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if the cost of effectiveness is worth then I will consider it.

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but I'm trying to build a PCI-5 / DDR5 build.

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@drowsy rapids

tame fractal
spiral prawn
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I'm American.

tame fractal
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For 10k you can get TWO beast pcs

spiral prawn
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which makes sense.

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since I want to stream, one for gaming one for capturing/editing

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but problem for later, so let's keep the first in a 6k budget then?

tame fractal
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Are you looking for a prebuilt with warranty or something to build yourself?

spiral prawn
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I have had pre-built.

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I'm over it

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So I rather make it.

tame fractal
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Same, I bought mine on sale for a wicked deal and just kind of been adding to it and changing things

drowsy rapids
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Then I would go all out myself

spiral prawn
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I don't really know what is "All out"

tame fractal
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5k is already alot for a good pc

drowsy rapids
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Switch to z790, a 13900kf and go at least 6000 ddr5 because there it actually does make a difference in some games and in the future.

spiral prawn
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Z970 Motherboard? or

drowsy rapids
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Z790, I sometimes switch numbers HyperNeko

spiral prawn
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uhh

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crap

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I can't choose first

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oh

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that's cause I already have it

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so I already have the Z790

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I would need to update my memory accordingly.

tame fractal
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I avoid intel but that’s just my preference.

spiral prawn
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ehh

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I don't really care about Intel or Ryzen

drowsy rapids
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Well still idk why anyone would avoid Intel atm, with AM5 being such disaster

spiral prawn
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I just pick one

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Alright I have updated the build with the specs you said.

drowsy rapids
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Worse performance for basically more money at this point and get on a buggy unfinished platform.

spiral prawn
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and I can actually keep my memory I have since it supports 4.

drowsy rapids
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Funny thing I have the updated AIO of the one you picked xD

spiral prawn
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NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm Liquid Cooler with LCD Display LGA 1700 Compatible - White

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this?

drowsy rapids
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Yeah I have the kraken elite, which is technically updated but they are still kinda the same

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The LCD is pretty funny

spiral prawn
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NZXT Kraken Elite RGB 240mm - RL-KR24E-W1

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so this

drowsy rapids
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Well I use the 360mm version ofc

spiral prawn
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wat

drowsy rapids
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Idk if you have it in white though

spiral prawn
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what was filtered.

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I said a PC part.

drowsy rapids
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Probs had a random word in it, most likely a couple of caps after each other.

spiral prawn
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I'll stick to what I have for now for the AIO

tame fractal
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You should just go to r/pcmasterrace

drowsy rapids
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alright I updated the list.

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4707.88

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not including the fact I need to find a new case, power supply, and GPU

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elsewhere

drowsy rapids
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Probs the 4090 pushing that price up

spiral prawn
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I mean $1600

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I'd imagine

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that's not even a TI

drowsy rapids
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What you build a PC that can run anything you want and instead watch youtube vids HyperNeko

spiral prawn
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I mean

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I'm still gonna watch youtube vids

drowsy rapids
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I have atm a 4080 and that is already pretty beast lol

spiral prawn
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the problem is

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I have a 2080 Super currently

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it's a waste to go 3000 series

drowsy rapids
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Switched my CPU recently from a 5800X3D to a 13600 though, was tired of AMD drivers and games keep giving issues and somehow switching to that DDR5 Intel system I gained 10 % in peformance from a 5800x3d...

tame fractal
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So why are you even looking at a new gpu lol

spiral prawn
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so it's 4000, and anything below 4070 is a waste.

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thus, I go 4070+

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@tame fractal I'm looking to upgrade to the best of the best.

drowsy rapids
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A 4090 will be good for the next couple years yeah

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Having a 2080 super will be a big jump to a 4090

tame fractal
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There is no point, inflation is so high you are over paying.

spiral prawn
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I mean

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I live in a house that cost me 3500/m cause of a 60% inflation cost... trust me I know.

drowsy rapids
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There is always a point, the thing with PC building is that you kinda decide yourself if it's worth it or not and he would double his performance lol.

spiral prawn
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I bought my PS5 for 1600

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inflation is the least of my concerns

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allow me to help.

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I'm a game developer, that makes enough

tame fractal
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That’s fantastic, I still don’t advise people to rip themselves off lol

drowsy rapids
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He would go from like below 60 fps to 150 on 4k alone.

spiral prawn
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my current PC would be going to my brother btw

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meaning I'm not just abandoning the PC I have

drowsy rapids
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Well would be a waste, if not giving away always best to just sell the PC or parts anyway so someone else can enjoy it.

spiral prawn
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I mean

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I give it to my brother

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or some wanna be streamer

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I have no reason to sell the PC I rather just give it

drowsy rapids
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You are kinda like me then in this regard

spiral prawn
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Its a situation I sell if and it gets up priced and then I screw someone over

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or I can sell the PC cheap / Give it away and make someone day

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a lot of people can't afford what I can

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soooo let's just give it

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uknow?

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I may be spoiled / semi-rich but I'm not a jerk

drowsy rapids
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Well I sold my 3080 for like 650 to someone, I paid myself 1200 for it at some point. I gave my 2070s system away to a friend though with a 3700x in it.

manic parcel
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What's the best gpu for my i5-11400F + EVGA 600W Gold

drowsy rapids
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Depends on your budget

manic parcel
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Can RTX 2080 Super handle 600W?

drowsy rapids
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Technically it could, even though iirc Nvidia recommends 650

manic parcel
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Or should i get RX 6600 XT instead

drowsy rapids
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Hello everyone

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I have some question regard case fans and PSU

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ARCTIC P12 are indeed the best cheap case fans on the market ?

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And Corsair RMx Series™ RM850x, 80 PLUS® Gold, 850W, Fully Modular is indeed the best corsair PSU on the market ?

drowsy rapids
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Is it the 2018 or the new model ? (forgot if they are 2020 or 2021)

dim osprey
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2021

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The new model

dim osprey
drowsy rapids
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They are fine fans for the price point yeah

dim osprey
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Love to see it

drowsy rapids
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Even though iirc the max is their new upgraded one but idk how much they go for.

dim osprey
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I don't want to pay 20+ euros for noctua because I'm going to buy only for the brand :/

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And both have good rpm

drowsy rapids
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Eeeh noctua is also special where it does affect temp by a decent amount, but they aren't needed either.

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But I do think the artic P12 max are better overall for not that much more.

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At least here they are only like 2 euro more or something.

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If you want the most of the most budget, then sure go with the none max they are probs still 1 of the best budget fans you can possible get. Their max is just an upgraded design with a higher RPM, better static pressure and has pads.

dim osprey
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Good to know

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I guess I'm going for 3x Arctic P12 for my corsair 4000D

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Again

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I wanted to buy Corsair iCUE QL140 RGB

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100+ euros O_O

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I said ''hell neah''

drowsy rapids
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They have RGB so ofc they cost like 300 % more

dim osprey
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yeah...

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And the PSU ?

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What do you think ?

drowsy rapids
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I use the same PSU really, but they just use seasonic parts so corsair always has been a good brand.

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Corsair is nothing more than a rebranded seasonic unit

dim osprey
drowsy rapids
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Unless you go with their like cheap series, they well yeah not amazing.

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But happens nearly all the time where "gaming" brands just rebrand other better manufacturers xD.

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I just use Corsair, because they have their own sleeved cables and they are easy to work with.

dim osprey
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Good to know x2

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Thank you for your help

blissful anvil
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@dim osprey Also segotep is good

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Asus rog strix z690 or tuf-plus z690 ?

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i7-12700kf

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@dim osprey @drowsy rapids Good combo ?

drowsy rapids
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Just pick whichever has the features you want for the cheapest price

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Which most likely is the tuf

blissful anvil
drowsy rapids
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Depends what you need

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All boards are just kinda a mixed bag with way too many variations to hike prices up for basically no extra features or even effort. Usually a mid range board is like all you need so about a tuf or a tomahawk etc.