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ah, nah
If you want to start from scratch then the system you posted is pretty fine base, as long you do the modifications I said which would come at probs still under 1k. Your system is better in some aspects, but I know pre build cases and PSU are pretty bad.
can run most games, not elden ring or warhammer, those sort of games
alright thnx
I love how, on certain websites, they sell hp computer as "dy" x)
Oh?
Look at the HP logo on a laptop, flipped
DDR4?
yeah
Oh f
The bot removed my link
yeah
It was Amazon fr anyway :(
Check for Corsair Vengeance LPX 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3200MHz
aight thx man
Sal said cooler is bad too
im guessing cpu coller
cooler*
ill look for more
Default one from AMD is not bad
ill try it
damn
hm
is the cosiar vengance
does it have
a white option
tryna go for full white build
gpu is pink but its fine
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600MHz
seems good
Ill look for another power supply too thx sal
Yeah the CPU cooler is pretty bad, basically a fancy stock cooler.
Corsair iCUE H150i ELITE CAPELLIX Liquid CPU Cooler yum
haha thx for letting me know
199 for the cosiar
dayum
u think i should go for the cosiar vengance 3600MHz ddr4 ram?
thats it im going everything Cosiar
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CASE
KEDIERS PC Case - ATX Tower Tempered Glass Gaming Computer Case with 9 ARGB Fans,C590
MOTHERBOARD
CVN B560M GAMING FROZEN V20 motherboard LGA 1200 usb2.0 sata3 reg memory ecc support and xeon processor E5-2670 2690CPU 4ddr3
RAM
Corsair Vengeance RGB PRO SL 32GB (2x16GB) DDR4 3600MHz C18, Illuminated Desktop Memory Kit (10 Individually Addressable RGB LEDs, Wide Compatibility, Optimised for Bandwidth & Response Times) White
CASE COOLING FANS
Coolmoon 120mm 5V ARGB Cooling Fan Mute PC Computer Case Cooler With IR Remote Heat sink PWM RGB Radiator For Gamer Cabinet Fans
POWER SUPPLY
Corsair CX650F RGB, 80 PLUS Bronze Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (80 PLUS Bronze Certified, 120 mm RGB Fan, Optimised for Low Noise, 105°C Japanese Capacitors, Compact 140 mm Long Casing) White 650W
CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 R5 5600 3.5 GHz Six-Core Twelve-Thread CPU Processor 7NM 65W L3=32M 100-000000927 Socket AM4
GPU
RTX 3070 ti YESTON Sakura custom gpu design 3 fans
@drowsy rapids @sacred moat 🙂
Thanks guys <33
CASE
Invasion 5200C MATX
MOTHERBOARD
Gigabyte H410m H V2
RAM
Kingston Fury Beast DDR4
CASE COOLING FANS
NZXT X53 AIO
POWER SUPPLY
Corsair RM750 750W
CPU
Pentium Gold G6405
GPU
no GPU?
gpu not included 💀
You will be limited by the case regardless for a GPU.
By rules of Discord, Steam and Ebay it's banned to sell a Steam account.
As in, the account WILL get banned.
Hi. I don't know which ram came up with this restriction, but how long do I have to wait for unlocking? I've been waiting for 2 weeks.
This belongs in #wemod-support
Is it possible to have the cpu’s integrated graphics render, and my Neolithic gpu just output video? In case it matters, my cpu is an i5-3470, and the gpu is an nvidia quadro nvs 290
Part List - Intel Core i5-13500, Radeon RX 6900 XT, NZXT H7 ATX Mid Tower
any suggestions??
mainling for gaming
a little bit of editing
Anyone got a good pc build - prebuilt or not - for budget streaming/gaming? Around 700-1000
For anyone wanting to buy an SSD, 2TBs are going on sale right now on Amazon. I've seen some as low as $90.
Which country?
Good luck fitting a ryzen in a LGA socket
anyone here tried the 4090gpu?
why ?
there's quite a lot here who own one
@drowsy rapids @river bronze want suggestions about what i want to get and what would be perfect together. i made this so far and idk https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6Gt3Tn/add_to_cart/
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Depends what you want to do with the system
gaming obvs
Then 4090 might be overkill if you going to do nothing else unless you really want best of the best
Yeah, 4090 is pretty overkill for gaming. 4080 should be all you need until the 5000 series releases
i'd suggest you wait till Feb 28th for the 7900X3D Ryzen cpus
also doesn't the 7950X support max RAM speed up to 5200?
Is the official number from AMD usually you can overclock more thou it is not recommended
That 5200 means this is the max speed it will run stable. Everything beyond this number ain't our fault
Which is still weird because the much cheaper models of Intel 13th gen has official support up to 5600 but have no issues with 6000 either.
If I am running a 144 hz 2k monitor what graphics card should I use
If I was to get a brand new PC that could handle everything well, what would you recommend? I'm not planning on getting it anytime soon, but I'll note it down.
All I know is that I'd say for gaming, it'd need to be a minimum of at least 60FPS+, 16GB+ Memory, Ultra Fast WiFi, Quality Settings; All Games, 1080 x 1920 Resolution+, personally, I'd choose NVIDIA, ||(but I really don't know the difference between any of them, I just like how smooth the NVIDIA app / GeForce Experience looks & the way the settings are).||, & Windows 10 or 11, I've also heard tonnes of good things about the SSD Disk Drive, & I wouldn't know what to choose for the GPU & CPU, I don't really know the differences between them all, is the higher the digit, 3080 for example, the higher that digit, the more of the latest quality kind of GPU that would be? Also, what's CPU?
basically if you're going for extreme gaming you would want to go Nvidia 4090 and Intel latest. You can google CPU single core performance to see the most current postings of current relations to gaming. However, if you're wanting multi-thread as-in you have one rig to run gaming and streaming then the latest amd 7950x is great at multi-thread. I personally wouldn't go above 32-64gb 2 stick of ddr5 on the latest amd 7000 due to early adoption issues above that. Nvidia 3080 is a great option but still cannot figure out how scalpers are pricing them so high. I'm currently holding out on updating to the nvidia 4000 series due to the new 12 pin gpu power connector issues. You can see videos on this from youtuber gamersnexus.
Thank You, also sorry if I ask questions, takes me time to understand things.
no worries. Ask as many questions. There is no such thing as a dumb question if it's honest.
At first I had questions, but I've managed to wrap my head around it, Thank You for all the Support, though.
Also, which one is better, NVIDA or Intel? NVIDIA seems to be a lot more improved & updated on GeForce Experience than with Intel, but how well is the Hardware for both of them? Personally, I'd choose NVIDA, just curious what the differences are between them.
Nvidia is the leading in GPU technology.. Intel ARC is garbagge. AMD GPU is meh.
Thought it would've been, just wanted to make sure, Thank You.
yep
Intel arc is actually extremely good now...
Their drivers updates fixed those gpus to be at this point the value king even does RT better than either Nvidia and amd at a much cheaper price.
3080s are at most 600 to 800 usd so idk what you are taking about. 4080 doesn't have 12 pin issues, even the 4090 didn't... It was user error and a total of 37 cases were found which Nvidia all replaced while they didn't have to. Gamers nexus even proved this themselves too... So idk where you are getting your info from but 90 % is just outdated or entirely false 
Depend on your budget and what king of expierence you are looking for... Don't listen to anything else before you know that.
I understand that, sounds like something I should discuss with the person I'm purchasing the PC from; that'll make sure I'm definitely getting the PC I'm searching for, instead of noting down specific things that I don't really understand on what they do, then compile them all together & expect it to be my solution, Thank You. ||(Also, this kind've sounds like I'm complaining, I'm not)||
Whats the best pc for $2200
Gaming and streaming and work
But i want more on the gaming side
And 3 tb storage
I'd discuss that with the person you're buying your PC from, though their prices might be above $2200, depending on the setup you want
Okay but tbh fuck that work i want all gaming actually my bad for changing my mind alot
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8sp4bK something like this, it's 100 above but local prices will differ regardless.
Part List - AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D, GeForce RTX 4080, Fractal Design Meshify 2 Compact TG Light Tint ATX Mid Tower
Stuff like case, I mean you will have to figure out yourself which ones you like, but usually between 90 and 130 for most major brands you can't go that wrong. Another option is look at Gamers Nexus list on best cases and pick there 1 you like.
Going from a 1060 3GB to a 3070TI will be pretty dramatic improvement.
Is the pc in the pic good?
Also thbx
ASD
Yes
Sweet
It's decent. Nothing particularly amazing.
how to add custom links on pcpartpicker?
Don't think you can
The bottom should let you add custom links.
"Add Custom Part"
Ah, well there ya go
And they sometimes validate it and will change the name or description or the picture to what they link
Part List - AMD 5350, GeForce GT 710, CiT Home RGB MicroATX Mid Tower
nasas been real quiet after this build dropped 🥶
Guys, does any know is it practical to use two 8GB ram with two 16gb ram sticks? Same brand and same frequencies, just different RAM size.
I used to have 4 8gb ram, but one of them is damaged recently 😦
Technically you can, if you respect dual channel
like putting them on 1,3 and 2,4?
It will work, most important is the timings and speed and put them in the right channels. You will just have a weird amount of RAM but is no issue.
Hello everyone
I7-12700F pair with 3080 10gb will bottleneck one of this component at 2K resolution ?
or i5-13500 with 3080 10gb at 2k ?
and what about 1080p with this cpus/gpu ?
12700f defo won't bottleneck it at 2k, ppl think too much about bottlenecks with cpus and gpus. Unless you play at 1080 and have a cpu of the last like 4 years you really shouldn't worry too much atm.
Ay, ty
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Get it now! CT2K16G56C46S5 is the Crucial 32GB kit consisting of (2) 16GB laptop modules that operate at the speed of 5600MHz and has a CAS latency of 46. It is a SODIMM and conforms to the industry standard DDR5 SODIMM layout of 262 pins. It is compatible with systems that can take DDR5-5600 SODIMM memory.
im looking at upgrading my cpu from a Ryzen 7 2700 to possibly a Ryzen 7 7700x should i go with the X3D version or just the regular 7700x
Whatever you kinda feel like, either option will be really good. Just remember that X3D isn't supported for all games and that you defo need the most up to date drivers for it.
thanks, just because like you said most games might not support it yet i might just go with a regular 7700x
guys do you know PackGod
Change GPU to 4070 Ti and case to another brand.
If you change GPU to 4070 Ti, you'll want to look for a PSU that is PCIe 5 compliant, as well.
Cannot, too expensive in my country :/
But thank you for your idea 
More expensive than an older 3080? That's crazy.
Unfortunately or fortunately ye 
CPU, SSD, or GPU probably.
Which one is preferred
Dependent on whatever budget you have for yourself
£1k, that was for a new pc altogether
As long as you're using your SSD for only your operating system, I'd upgrade your GPU
What's a good one?
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Get it now! CT2K16G56C46S5 is the Crucial 32GB kit consisting of (2) 16GB laptop modules that operate at the speed of 5600MHz and has a CAS latency of 46. It is a SODIMM and conforms to the industry standard DDR5 SODIMM layout of 262 pins. It is compatible with systems that can take DDR5-5600 SODIMM memory.
Just a GPU upgrade will be enough here
Any good one
You were switching to a 3070TI yourself not long ago
Yeah was looking at it, then was gonna buy a new whole pc but now I cba
My opinion: GeForce GTX 1060 3GB --> GeForce GTX 1080 8GB
im tryna upgrade my little sisters pc could anyone tell me a good gpu for a Biostar H61MGV3 motherboard? i dont want to make it too expensive or to strong since she doesnt play such games that require any high end gpus
Then look at last gen GPUs, they go for rather cheap atm.
any recommendations?
Anything from a 3060/3060ti/3070, 6800/6800XT etc.
damn that might be too much for her
and i dont think it will go with the socket
she has a LGA 1155
would a gtx 750 be good?
XD
whats actual best cpu and gpu for a 600 € budget ?
Whats the best possible PC i can BUY (idk how to build) with a $7500.00 CANADIAN dollar budget
Intel CPU and Nvidia GPU heavily preferred ❤️
AMD fo liiiiiife
AMD CPU, yes.
AMD graphics, hell no
Considering that is $8,191 in my currency (AUD), you can get some pretty high end stuff
I think
GPU lifespan is 5 to 10y and for the CPU is 10y+ ?
And a SSD can live for 20y ? Is this really true ? 
I would say all of the above are subject to usage
If their new GPU's handled RT better, I would have probably bought one
Even then a couple of times AMD GPUs kill themselves by pretty poor post launch support, kinda wish it was better myself tbh.
Same. It'll happen for them eventually. Same with Intel.
My hope is that both AMD and Intel get their shit together and force Nvidia to cut these ridiculous prices.
Nvidia has pretty normal prices for their performance.
4080 is only 100 more expensive than 7900XTX here and at least it will work in all games.
It's always nvidia prices this nvidia prices that, let's talk about the useless 7900XT that has no reason to exist and is overpriced to oblivion xD.
You would get more value out of a 4070ti than you would out of a 7900XT, like you know a GPU is crazy bad value when you instantly drop it in price after launch.
🤣
That's usually the case because they still produce the best GPU's
I don't think so. IMO, the 4080 and 4090 are $300-$350 overpriced currently.
That's crazy lol
4080's are anywhere between $1299-$1599 USD
Then a 7900XTX should be priced at around 800 lol, you are basically asking for a 4080 below a 3080 price something that we have never seen ever before.
Even today the 3080 is still 900 ish
Would be close to impossible to find a new one here in the US without getting scalped online.
Then means all stocks were already sold out and scalping no longer happens on them.
I sold my used 2070S for $825 on eBay 2 yrs ago during the crypto mining boom.
Bought a 3080 Ti for $1129
I understand that, but I think you think that just because in-store stock is out -- that scalping ends.
It'll continue on for as long as there is a demand for it
Scalping is a byproduct of high demand
There is no high demand nor a high stock for it
This is why you can get brand new 3080s for 900 or below in a lot of places
Used they are like 550/600
Remember this is a GPU that used to be 1600
I never saw a 3080 for 1600
Ppl buying 3080s for like 1500 and then gonna complain about a 4080 for 1300 crazy world we live in.
I have seen them up to 1700 in shops after they launched
Online they went +2k
Oh actually, the 3080 ROG strix was in summer 2021 1800 in shops here and they somehow still sold them.
you guys know any good HDMI TO DP adapter that I can buy
Check out Benfei products on Amazon
thank
Np
Although does it not have HDMI to DP adapter I only see the opposite
Interesting. I could've sworn I saw they sold one.
The title is prob fucked up. I know I saw them sell an HDMI to DP.
Can you link me one I can’t seem to find any thanks you
Where are you from? Searching Hdmi to DP adapter, like a 1000 of them appear on amazon.
Isn't that what you need?
If someone told you it needs to be HDMI to DP and not DP to HDMI they are trolling you.
If you see a cord available for sale that says HDMI to DP or DP to HDMI that is what you need.
Hdmi to dp or dp to hdmi is the same lol.
hello. ı downloaded wemode app for age of empires. but ı cant activated cheats. there is a button ''load game''
could you help me to find out please*
EVGA
No difference with either
TUF was the most searched after GPU for a reason though, together with the strix during the 30 series reign.
They are the same GPU, clock speeds don't really matter much really.
Considering that's boosted clock speed anyway, that's fair
But iirc the FTW3 has like a clock of 1815 and the TUF which you shows is 1845 xD
ssssshhhh
Either way, they both have an extra HDMI port, right?
Compared to the EVGA one, I mean
I do. Multiple monitors
IMO unless a GPU is really bad, like zotac kind of bad then just pick whichever you like the looks of the most tbh.
Most ppl with multiple monitors use DP
Because of the higher bandwith
Which means less compression (even though really isn't much difference now)
Let me correct myself - One older monitor that doesn't use DP, my Elgato capture card and my VR headset
Imagine a VR headset with a HDMI 
But yeah in your situation the the extra HDMI would defo a thing to look at.
As far as I'm aware, all VR headsets still use HDMI?
Even though you could still buy like a HDMI to DP cable
Valve Index does
Eh, I gave up on Oculus
@vagrant lynx @drowsy rapids @weak compass Thank you for the info 

I don't know on amazon it keep saying it can only work one way and not two
Would be the first time I ever heard that
Just can you send me a product that you know for sure can adapt HDMI to DP I have 2 monitors and having one is HDMI and the other DP is so annoying because of the screen different resolution
How long of cords do you need
This is what the back look like so not that long ?
My monitor have to slot for hdmi and one slot for dp
I have one monitor in dp and the other in hdmi 1
Which Is this one
Got a best buy near you?
WAIT, I read that wrong okay so you have a monitor that is DP Already? and another that is HDMI Only.
If your monitor Has DP Just use that for your DP in you GPU, Then Use the HDMI in the other slot of your gpu. No need to be buying DP to HDMI cords.
DP is not an active signal that can go backwards and forwards. It is not an interchangeable signal, like HDMI. Thus, HDMI does not output to DP. (Through normal means at least; you'd need a bunch of converters and adapters)
Well, I mean, it only goes one way. If you connect an HDMI from your GPU into a monitor that only supports DP, you won't get signal lol. The direct source HAS to be DP. It doesn't work the other way.
That was in reply to a post a few days back from backreading
Fair, thought it was in response to the current conversation
Still kinda is, as most folks just immediately think that DP <-> HDMI lol.
I don’t why but I try that when I first bought the monitors both monitors are from the same brand so they have the same cord but for some reason I can only have 1 monitors in dp if I try the other then I just black it won’t turn on
You can still buy a DP to HDMI adapter and it will work fine.
All you have to do is making sure the signal from the GPU is DP and not HDMI and put it into a HDMI port on your monitor.
And with the comments of "it's the same" that statement is correct based on the question asked...There is a reason why the adapter is always DP to HDMI, but titles can be funky and usually they are the same because the adapters are always made the same. 
What im saying is that if he has 1 DP slot on his GPU and 4 HDMI and One monitor with DP/HDMI and another with JUST HDMI, why would you go buy a DP to HDMI adapter.
Yeah no one knows that here, we only tried to help him 
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Hey guys hope u doin fine, i was looking for some liquid cooling 240 for my ryzen 5 7600x cpu what should i get that has no leaking and keeps the temp very low?
Hi guys
This mobo can peform great temps on I7-12700 Non-K ?
Asus Rog Strix B660-A GAMING WIFI D4
I hate to be the person who goes "go do your research", so lemme see
Mobo won't fix your temps ever
Some will be better in compatibility
But its nothing to spend hundreds over
@blissful anvil Tell you what, all you have to do is get some proper thermal paste, most kinds work as long as you don't go for something that is definitely not thermal paste, and a proper radiator
That CPU/MOBO duo will work perfectly fine together
Thank you
And I'm thinking abou Noctua NH-U12A
I heard pretty good things about this CPU Cooler
Those are good, but make sure you dont get the wood colored one
Look trash unless your entire setup is themed around it
All AIOs are the same, just take 1 of a decent known brand and what you like the looks of it (or some random features like RGB and LED screens)
Cooler master ml240l argb is kinda my choice, and thank you for your help
Your case will matter more with temps than literally anything else... deciding factor of PC temps goes like this: Ambient > case > airflow > fans > hardware. Ambient will decide your base line no matter what... a case with proper logic for airflow will be the biggest factor below that... airflow aka if you go negative or the traditional way... how good your fans are and then how hot your hardware is... like a beafy CPU and GPU will dramatically increase it's temps.
The only part that doesn't matter here is your motherboard... because it generates basically 0.02 % of your entire temp, neither does it decide how well it can cool any other part.
Good to know
Thank you 🥩
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Im tryna buy a mouse which one should i get Logitech 102 or 203
Iirc they are both kinda the same mouse.
The 203 has an upgraded sensor though, so it might be more accurate and responsive.
How was it Husam?
email support@wemod.com
thx
Hello everyone
the letters for motherboard: B,H,Z; what this means in term of performance,VRM ? (I plan to buy i7-12700 non-K or F with Asus ROG STRIX B660-A GAMING WIFI D4)
If you don't plan to overclock, buy a B mobo
Wait for another opinion if ya want @blissful anvil
Hii
How yall are?
Ion know if i am at the correcT channel
But i need help with a mod
Evil dead´s one
Wrong channel - #wemod-support
sry
What's a good PC brand
@drowsy rapids can you help ?
B is for business as far as I know, so that's why I asked
How did you miss the right channel ? this is pc build help not wemod help support channel 💀
Rather easy, B is normal mid boards, H are budget, X is crazy designed for very very high end boards, Z is high end, usually with extra OC features and better VRAm cooling etc.
AMD does use different letter sheme though so don't apply them on all boards for AMD it's: X high end, B generic mid range and A budget.
Thank you so much @drowsy rapids @dim osprey
@drowsy rapids you are a genius XD
Hi everyone
Hi
What's the differance between SCl,MLC,TLC and QLC for SSD s ?
Uh
The amount of cells
I have a Samsung 870 Evo SATA 3 and it is TLC and MLC ?
Not always
Well, the more cells means that the data is denser. Sure, you can compile more, but then its more likely that the data can be corrupted
Sometimes they are also slower, which means it's worse.
Mid-range for most things hardware can be best
Unless its m.4
If you can afford m.4 SSDs and you mobo can handle them, go for them
The only issue with it is that it might not be able to hold as much data as a standalone SSD, but the insane speed it has makes up for it
HIgher cells usually means a tad slower and with it also a tad less reliable overtime.
Iirc the most used if TLC with nand these days.
I’ve held onto my SSD for years, and it’s still going strong. I likely need to get a new one soon though
It will go poof at some point, because they do have a limited life cycle.
Then you will be fine lol
Takes usually 5 to 10 years to get to the actual limit of the drive for most generic use.
I’m saving up to do a swap to amd from intel, I already have my parts planned out
Idk if that's the smartest choice atm
How? I’m saving up, not wasting all of my money right now
Because Intel is just the tad better platform atm
More stable and less expensive, with AMD slow roll out of budget options.
Samsung 870 evo sata 3 use tlc if I'm not wrong
That thing cost me 100 euros so for that kind of money,I hope it will last me long enough 
Samsung generally is the best you can get on the consumer market
Wow, great you like it 
If iPhones were the same price as samsungs, it would be easier to compare them
What I dont like about samsung is that, unless you know your way around the entirety of the phone, you’re gonna be bombarded with ads and preloaded apps and such
But if you do know your way around it
Samsungs are dangerously fun
Iphones have more preloaded apps and ads than any android will.
Mainly because Apple locks them in their own ecosystem, so literally every app preloaded is of them. Funny enough Alphabet lost a massive monopoly lawsuit not that long ago because they had just Google and Play store on android phones... idk how Apple didn't get sued either tbh.
Because steve jobs is an alien so them government wont allow it
Still, I prefer general utility apps such as notes and app store and general things used in iOS and MacOS such as iTunes to be preloaded rather than a facebook app that cant be removed
Only iTunes, app store, and apple store actually use your data in any minor way. Meanwhile facebook and google apps are leeches preinstalled on your personal drvice
@drowsy rapids It is true, that every SSD can live long like 10 to 20 years only if you read on it ?
Why not M.2 ?
Amazing choice anyway
I guess that's the best SATA 3 from Samsung
I bet you bought the 1TB one
Right ?
Eh, it's more a hard data limit rather than a year limit.
Yeah
What do you mean by ''hard data limit'' ?
SSD can die fast then a HDD ?
Doesn't make any sense because SSD doesn't have mechanical things inside it.
I have mine with a water cooler I don't trust turning mine off I only keep it on sleep mode when not in use plus undervolting helps so much
I mean over night shouldn't be a problem if that's all it is, but laptops and towers also have different issues 🤷♀️
yeah i have a 3060 and 32 gb ram and i5 prossesor
Shouldn't hurt it but just keep an eye on temp because temperature makes or breaks your PC lifespan
so if i download something from steam and put on sleep mode its gonna be okay?
how do i check temp again
I use MSI afterburner 🤷♀️
That should be okay, i would look into undervolting your pc though
whats undervolting
Undervolting is the opposite of overclocking. When you undervolt your GPU you are reducing the overall voltage, your GPU receives from the power supply.
Its honestly different for different computers I think but if you want some help I can help out in dms/ get my man to come help you rq lol
i dont have much time tho
Can be later on or tomorrow as he has to get to work soon and hes on the phone anyways, as for tonight your pc should be fine just have it set to go to sleep after an hour
ill add you and dm you or ping you tmr
No worries he will be home in about 12 hours or so
8 pm for us :/ Hes a graveyard shift mans lol
Just make a sleep feature on your windows, So after like an hour of no usage it goes to sleep.
do not play with voltages if you have no idea what you are doing
^^ Ya dont touch let my man explain tomorrow he knows things
Your PC will be fine left on over night, No need to get crazy with things.
Turn on your sleep feature and download your game. Your pc will sleep when its done.
It would funny enough stop downloading all together. Keeping the pc on has 0 issues, when someone doesn't use any power it can't rise in Temps either. You just need to restart it once a week to free up ram. The advise of undervolting is like not needed at all.
Shows that this person sadly has little knowledge if it start to give such kind of advise lol.
Won’t sleep mode stop your downloads too?
it did
@drowsy rapids What do you mean by ''hard data limit'' ?
SSD can die fast then a HDD ?
Doesn't make any sense because SSD doesn't have mechanical things inside it.
It can only write between 700 and 1200 of terabyte. After that it will degrade very rapidly, same when ssds are almost full. You will lose performance with it.
So if I have 50 gb free, my ssd will be slower unlike a hdd ?
my pc randomly freezes once when i run it after force shutdown theres no more crashes how do i fix this
What do you problem reports say? or event viewer?
how do i check them
and then
if you don't remember what time it happened you can wait for it to do it again and just remember the time it froze.
but it should give you some indication as to wait failed and caused the freeze.
Have you ever had a BSOD?
yes
is it normal to have alot of warnings in a few hours
Yeah
Just next time it freezes, crashes or restarts just look at your event viewer.
You need to find out what the BSOD error is.
Honestly, Probably easier if you pay the 80$ to have a professional look at it.
Could be bad ram, overheating, corrupted windows, dying harddrive.
k
What is the BSOD error code ?
@wispy gate
?
How old is this PC and did you do anything to it before it started to happen... for example a hardware change ?
Because that error is almost always related to RAM or PSU on the hardware side and malware or start up issues on the software side.
pc isnt really old but i did add ram the the pc
the crashing started when i got my pc
Was it before or after you added your RAM ?
(I assume you did it here and not someone else)
before
You have had this for ages and only just now look for a solution ?
not only now
Idk doesn't make much sense anymore.
You got the issues from the beginning and didn't think of else taking it back or if you build yourself check if all parts were working properly?
So if I have 50 gb free, my ssd will be slower unlike a hdd ?
Hey guys. I have an AMD ryzen 9 system and need a new GPU. 6650 or 3060 ti? I can't make up my mind
@lament cargo
Since you have a high end CPU, you should pair it with higher end GPU too to take full advantage of your Ryzen 9, look around the 3070-3090 range. But if you have to choose between the two options, 3060 Ti is definitely better.
Depends a Ryzen 9 system can be a lot of different CPUs....
My budget for 3070 is not going to work, too overpriced. 12000,- NOK, is too much.
Just get a 3060 super
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its only 4102.82 NOK
and its got more VRAM then a standard 3070
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There is no such GPU as a 3060 super
The OC same shit different pile
Lol
That's not a super, they don't exist 😛
Didn’t they just stop naming them super?
The OC 12G would technically be a super tho?
Nope
Wasn’t super just another term for OC?
No lol
Oh lol I thought it was just a fancy word they like to throw in there
The supers had actual more cores
OC models are just base silicon that won the lottery so they get factory OC'd.
For example the ROG strix and TUF are the exact same GPU, however the chips that can be pushed to strix levels get put into that pile and the ones that don't become TUF cards. Same with other models the "OC" ones are just chips that were able to push further beyond it's base clocks. Aka they basically ask you money to have the GPU overclocked in the factory.
Is why the best GPU on the market of the same model will be at most like 5-8 % better than the cheapest model.
@tame fractalJust a problem, gotta pay 40% tax to get that card from amazon to me. And I loose my 5 year waranty for not buying it from a Norwegian store.
Then just use an European amazon ?
You would still get 2 year warranty regardless though lol.
I currently have TUF B450, R5 3600, 3200Mhz Vengeance Pro 2x8, 750W Seasonic +80G and TUF 4070Ti OC
I'm intending to upgrade to TUF B650, R7 7700X, 6400Mhz Fury Renegade 2x16
what do you guys think?
I would consider any additional advices
Hello guys
So, RTX 4070 is out now, and it's kinda cheap in my country, what do you guya think about getting a 4070 or 4070TI instead of 3080 10gb vram ?
The differences between 4070/TI and 3080 are 30% if I'm not wrong
And for the prices, 3080 is more expensive xDDDD
What do you guys think ?
buy 4070Ti
4070 is bascially a more efficient 3080 with DLSS3 available, saves u money in the long run in terms of power draw (still overpriced for a 70 series tho 🙄 thanks NVIDIA)
Check out AMD stuff too if u want pure FPS performance as they give more bang-for-buck than team green
Yeah but their gpus will be "useless" between 3 and 5 years lol.
And tbh amd is no longer value king, they have falling behind massively with features they made standard, has horrible power efficiency aka drawing kuch much more than nivids....lets not forget the 7900xt exist which is as a gpu the worst value we have seen in a while. Ppl love to make the power arguing for Nvidia... If we apply that to reality then amd will cost you more overtime and by a lot.
Thank you guys
hi
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can i use cheat in neighborhood can i get ban i will only open super stats player
hi @shell meadow, please read #469130732594266122, cause you're on the wrong channel, and you shouldn't ping staff, and in #📚┃frequently-asked-questions the answer: don't use it in multiplayer, and you shouldn't get ban from singleplayer games. (Risk is not 0)
Mfw I have 1 SSD and only have enough storage for 5 AAA games at any point, stupid American-made games taking up over 100gb. Should I upgrade to a more efficient storage (idk how, just there for sake of choice) or should I double up on storage? The issue for me is that I have no clue on if I need to download windows on the new SSD or not, and if it adds a layer of unnecessary complexity that isn't worth the time, such as issues in transferring data across the two or accessing both at once.
Also, when Newegg says "from China", does that mean that it'll be shipped from China or that it was made in China?
I don't think a MTBF of 1mil hours is real
straight up 114 year lifetime
get as many ssds your board can support lol
1 for windows
1or 2 for games
So 1 is far too little
Even at 1tb
Well
WHy is there a distinction between 2TB and 2048GB even if the GB is more?
1024GB is 1T
so 2048 is 2
Apologies
Corrected it
but i use a 500gb for my windows only and have a 2t and 1t nvme ssd
Interesting
To what extent is it challenging to transfer everything non-windows from one SSD to another?
@drowsy rapids
This lad can help you if you decided to go with it.
To me its easy lol i can't speak for yourself.
Not entirely soon what you are asking here, if you aren't happy with your current storage then just upgrade. Personally I have a seperate OS drive of 250GB just to keep it nice and clean and have the rest for games and other software.
To what extent is it challenging to transfer everything non-windows from one SSD to another?
Depends what exactly it is, games is generally more annoying to do. Personally I would just transfer the OS because is rather easy.
There is 1 way of doing it rather easy though and that's if you have Samsung drives
Samsung Magician let you transfer data from 1 drive to another pretty easy, but for that both drives need to be Samsung ones.
Unfortunately, I use Kingston, which is powerful while staying relatively cheap
But it really depends what exactly you want to do imo, drives is something that you can generally very easy switch around and experiment with. Unlike other hardware
Is there a software that I can use that is able to tell me what is taking up the majority of space on my SSD? I already totaled up my games and they take up nowhere close to the max storage, even with OS in mind. Yet, I have 55gb left on my 2TB SSD
TreeSize Free
I've used it at work plenty of times
TreeSize Free is a free disk space manager for Windows. The software shows you the sizes of folders including all subfolders.
You also have WinDirStat, that makes you a nice graph (but you should disable it, cause it's laggy)
https://windirstat.net/
Official WizTree web site. WizTree is the fastest disk space analyzer available for Windows. It reads the Master File Table (MFT) directly from the disk, bypassing Windows and gaining a huge performance boost.
My choice
3 possibilities x)
Why is it that when I want to connect to the Sons of the Forest server I can't do it and I can't do it only when I have WEDMOD on and if it's the fault that I didn't update it So how do I update it?
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Hello Iam an older fella and was looking to purchase FPS monitor to show key and mouse binds on pc games and programs at full screen and was wondering is there anything else out there that can overlay with with or with out FPS?
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hi i heard rtx 4060ti is gonna be released so it's a waste to buy 3060ti right now?
It'll be more expensive
Yea wait for the 40 series
Cuz i didn't wait and i bought 3080 rtx
Big mistake 😭
Idk why it would be a big mistake, the 3080 is the best valued GPU on the market atm
How to launch trainer for steam version Ghost Reacon Breakpoint?
launch wemod app and go to your gasmes section at top look for your ghost recon breakpoint game and make sure you slect steam under title of game and then click play on far right will launch your game for you and injuect mods for you to enable them
sorry for typos was eating trolli's lol
Yeah, i tried it, but after game starts it closes in a few minutes
Do i need to install anything else?
no i would check the dicussion forum for that game to ensure the mods are still working when loading the game does it say anything like the mods are out of date and load anyways cause you may have to keep trying to load the game through the wemod app
i have had had to do that a couple times on games i play but they eventually load and i'm able to play with the mods
No wait for it to release so the 3060 price goes down
Can anybody help? Im running i7 11700, 3060ti, 16gb 3200hz ram.... But I don't feel like my computer is running as smooth as it should
Anything I can look at?
What kind of issues do you think you have?
I feel like it's running sluggish, not optimized as good as it could be
WE aren't much with that info, be more specific like do you seem to have fps issues in games or ?
I'd perhaps take a look at your nvidia control panel? See if it's forcing to use integrated graphics (if you even have integrated) instead of your 3060ti
And make sure your HDMI is not plugged into your Motherboard and plugged into your gpu lol
my friend was using integrated graphics for like a year before i showed him he wasnt even using his GPU, He was going to buy a new one thinking that one sucked LOL.

Yes & no.. some games run like a dream but some games randomly drop to like 40fps
Yeah I always manually set it to use GPU
Is it locked specifically at 40
Cus if yes, I know exactly what your issue is
40fps is the default set for geforce experiences whisper mode
I don't believe so... How would I check that
just plop a game
Did you read the “read before playing”
Tell your friend to keep saving.
That's what I told him
Save up to 1500$ and he can get a better pc that will last longer.
Don't cheese out on pc
Yep
He knows pretty much nothing about pcs
idk depending where he lives 600 can get you really far if he doesn't mind getting used parts
1500 is like high end PC
For 1000 you can get a higher mid range PC that will be able to play every triple A game at 1440p ultra with RT even on.
Im about to upgrade my PC i got a RTX 280 and a cabinet that can take both ATX and ATX micro . Is there anything you would chose different in this?
Upgrade in mind:
Motherboard: ASRock B650M PG Riptide
Ram: 2 x Kingston FURY Beast - 8GB - DDR5 RAM - 6000MHz
Cooler: Cooler Master MasterLiquid ML240L V2 RGB
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 7700X - 4.5 GHz Processor - 8 kerner
yeah id up the ram cus 8 gig is rather lacking with the climbing usage games are getting lately
or is that 2 8 gig sticks, 16 is kinda ok, but i personally would rather push it to be prepared for any future releases
Personally would switch platform with Intel being the better and cheaper one this time around and don't even think about going below 16GB of RAM. I personally even suggest 32GB for gaming at this point.
yeah i just upgraded to 32gb cuz 16 is just not cuting it anymore, took me playing the new resident evil not being able to play on max settings while watching a twitch stream to find that one out
got me some trident z royals
these are my specs, i am going to upgrade to i7-13700KF and get another 8gb ram.
anything else i should get?
Personally would just add a 1TB SSD too, prices are cheap anyway. You have different RAM in your pc?
probably will get a 1tb ssd tbh, and wym diff ram?
You have 24GB of RAM, which is impossible when using dual sets. It's 4,8,16,32,64 or 128.
i got 3 sets of 8, the other 8 died
Might be worth to get a higher set to open up upgradability in the future. While selling the other 3 sticks to get some money back. Iirc RAm is dirt cheap atm.
i guess so
galera aonde que coloca o fiozinho lá de power na placa mãe 😭 😭 😭
I'm considering upgrading my CPU, graphic card (& monitor, since I'll make the switch to 4k). However, I'm not 100% certain about my motherboard. If I post my dxdiag here, could anybody give me a clue as what to look for?
If your MOBO is over 5 years I would upgrade it
It got replaced last year, because the previous one died on me.
They won't
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that sucks
I usto be intel but I found AMD cheaper but performed just as good
Thanks
Agreed. AMD for CPUs
Intel is the far better option this gen
Unless we are talking about a am4, but no one should get that platform anymore. Am5 is buggy, potential risks, worse performance and more expensive.
Thanks
@vast sapphire Ik you 🙂 You are an admin at SilkTeam, good job with those mods bro

Whats silk team? A Knitting team?
Knitting power !

gta modding, my bud makes power scripts for singleplayer
can youtube it lol
while i appreciate the compliment, your praise is misplaced, am not the one deserving of it lol
any one help me with my pc plzz
What do you need help with
i have to show you if that is ok
sure
lets see
kids are screaming i hear yah
what seems to be the problem
just show me
This is not an issue with the power supply. What you're seeing in Task Manager is a feature introduced with Windows 10 version 1809 intended to help users determine which applications are likely to be using more power, based on the application's CPU and GPU load over time.
aslong as you dont BSOD
your good
13700kf, 16GB DDR5 and a Sonic B760M 4 x DDR5, 3 x M.2 Board any good?
from this:
► CPU: i5 10600k 4.8Ghz
► RAM: 24GB
► HDD: 10TB
► SSD: 250GB
► Nividia GeForce GTX 3070
Lmao, amazing to see a silk team admin here
Also I love your friend mods 🙂 Good job
can someone help me?
It depends on what you want
With what?
You can literally build anything you want at that price tag, 4090 with a 13900kf is like no issues with that budget.
Why in the world would you take that joke of a CPU? Cmon now AMD has taken over for anything other than gaming related, which ofc since every old pc has an Intel CPU they are more optimized. But when it comes to price to performance, get a 7950x and be done with it, ignore the 3D version, it tends to spike very high with its hotspot temperatures. I have a 7950x, 4090, UV the CPU for 5.5 GHZ standard clock. Even under load my bequiet 360mm silent 2 is keeping it <70c. The 4090 is completely overkill, pretty much never reaching over 55c, no matter what, even with the newest 3DMark stress tests.
I use it for work through so that's that... and yes I do realize that the 13900KF will beat the 7950x by a few fps. But as said for anything and everything else nothing beats those 32 threads.
Windows 11 is a handicap for AMD so yeah, maybe stick to windows 10 if you don't need the newer features.
Because the 13900k is the best cpu on the market. The 7000 series of amd is rather underwhelming.
Just because you heard some random ppl said amd was good, doesn't mean they are in every Gen and the 7000 series showed their weakness, not only did Intel take their lead back but also in a cheaper way than amd. Also Am5 platform is just bad right now. (btw the 13900k has a higher clock of 5.8 can even be easy pushed to 6, so idk why you try to sell it as a point)
Calling the 13 series a joke is pretty ignorant imo but oh well. Also w11 hasn't handicapped the Am5 platform for months now, it handicaps itself by being the most messy and buggy platform released in years xD. Also you aren't pushing your gpu if it's only 55C even in mark, as in defo not 4k et.
Doesn't intel have big issues with cooling the cpu? :/
Nope old myth lol
I would quote tech Jesus....
"This platform is a complete mess and we didn't realise this during our reviews because we followed our process and it worked fine. We found a lot of bugs not even related to this issue"
What platform???
Am5 lol
When they were testing for the whole burned chips debacle they looked deeper into the platform too and that was their conclusion.
Like evem outside games Intel gave a big kick in amd butt, they have lost all advantages and that's with just moving to 10nn. Amd is at 5, so Intel will only increase it's efficiency none stop. Even back at 14nn+unlimited they were still trading blows. That tells more about Intel than amd really. Amd has been on a more efficient platform for ages and still didn't manage to run away with performance. Intel switches only 1 lower and amd lost all advantages including being cheaper.
Yeah they do, every single tech youtuber is saying so as well. Just like benchmark results show. For any workload outside of gaming AMD wins every day all day. Go ahead and show me the benchmark results, how many more fps does the overpriced heater give me compared to a 7950x?
provide links.
Not going to keep letting you say BS without actually posting links at this point.
Especially after such damming statements of our saviour and good lord tech jesus.
To make it fair its the 3D version, since the intel cpu is also the newest.
Nope 3d version won't count
They use a large cache so would give it massively advantages in most benchmarks
Which nvm that Tech jesus told you not to get atm regardless of the massive issues it has.
https://youtu.be/yWw6q6fRnnI you will see a vid of an actual good review where you see the 7950x lagging massively behind in gaming and the 13900k trading blows in all none gaming bechnmarks.
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Our review & benchmarks of the Intel Core i9-13900K CPU includes testing vs. the AMD Ryzen 9 7950X, R9 7900X, Intel i9-12900K, and more. The 13900K CPU is brand new from Intel, but socket...
I build pcs for fun and have experience from both sides, I hold no grudes, I just know what's better for my work as programming.
Sure but that also has less cache than the intel
I also build them for fun and use both, however your statements were just straight out false, ignorant and very fanboylike.
The differences won't matter much between the 2, because they are so close to each other
So when you're saying you cant take the 3D its kinda just cope
Oh defo not if you actually know what 3D does....
Especially right now when you said the 7950x was better in your own statement.
And i stand by it
Which btw 7950x has more cache than the 13900k
I just disproved your statement though
And let's go back to that 4090... which model do you have and which settings did you run at ?
Because 55 is impossible if you actually stress test it, only under very specific circumstances it would be possible.
Like imagine trying to shit on a whole platform and then 1 person disproving your entire statement and then running away from it when they did xD.
Gigabyte Gaming OC profile
600w unlocked
Basically thats it.
1300 RPM on the fans so just no Fan stop. And thats the result
Yeah and what was your mark test ? Because it won't have been the newest ones, that GPU runs on average 68/72.
(Just like most GPUs do especially of that level)
You running on quiet bios don't you ?
nope
Show your 3dmark result
loading it up rn.
https://www.3dmark.com/spy/35103577 this was with fked drivers, i tried reinstalling etc, nothing worked
Works now but I changed to windows 11 so without tuning I wont reach that gpu score rn.
2nd test doesn't exist
But to be fair the 4090 is powerfull enough on its own even with a small handicap.
Tf u mean?
Its 20 runs of speedway stress test...
Look at the graph
The 2nd one doesn't exist.... click on it
Whhy is your score so low
Because as I said, its stock. Its just set to the OC profile and is connected directly to the psu giving it 600w.
I dont oc
Neither do many others
a 4090 average score without pushing it too hard is like 40.
Unless the 7950x is dragging it down that hard let me check.
Oh wow, even the top result with a 7950x is like 35
Show me, I dont believe you. When running the benchmark it shows you your system compared to the extact same cpu & gpu config, mine is apparently magically higher than others, yet you claim its too low for a 4090?
Even the top result loses like 3k graphical points what xD.
Either way don't you have things to do?
Go to your own result
The graphics score is close to 37k but aight
Click on compare, click on add results it will give you the same settings then look for 4090.
ffs im not doing this pointless bs to prove something I don't give a damn about, just for your entertainment.
whats this?
Take this, this is the top 10 of the 7950x users vs the bottom top 100 of 13900k users.
yeah the top 10
That wasn't the point
"a 4090 average score without pushing it too hard is like 40."
that was your point
the top 10 are not average gpus
Nope
wtf are you thinking
what are you on?
Sorry but try to look for that statement, the top 10 is like hard pushed the rest is defo not.
But the point of that one was to show the 7950x score gets hammered xD
The top 5 of the am5 platform barely reaches the 100th place of the Intel platform (is also a graphical benchmark so makes more sense) however is giving you an idea.
btw you do realize that pretty much everyone has a watercooled card, giving them an even bigger advantage?
Not at all lol
k
Still wouldn't affect either screen there either.
It would be top vs top, so if there are any. They would most likely be at the top not the bottom. 
Do you have a default run?
That test is invalid because lod modifications which is known to inflate numbers. (because it causes lower textures, which would also explain the 55)
It was run with default drivers as I said before doesnt matter what settings i use in the nvidia control pannel, no aplication controlled nothing makes that go away.
Wtf is ur reasoning for them being inflated, first you say they are low, now they are too high? make up your mind. I already said i reinstalled the drivers and nothing changed. It works now but when I do a run as I said ill have to make some changes since Windows 11 is dogshit for my pc, aka any AMD CPU owner. I dont care about going back to windows 10 just for 5% performance, yet you are so obsessed, at the end of the day ill just be happy with my cards performance and be happy knowing I have a 4 year warrenty.
Go into control panel and change from clamp to the normal setting or just press default. Which btw you have to manually change.
I had an amd cpu myself on 11 lol.
Not many issues at this point anymore, also it could have affected it yes doesn't mean the score still isn't high to begin with. Also remember that this started with you calling a CPU a total joke and not worth it. To then keep defending that statement with everything you got contrary to everything around it... so idk who the obsessed one is at that point imo. 
Alright sure bud. That’s must the exact reason why when I look up I have an AMD CPU should I stay on windows 10 or on windows 11? And guess what every single result that comes out is telling me stay on windows 10 if you have an AMDCPU you lose about 5% of performance and that’s exactly what I saw when I update it. I’m fine with it because it’s not the performance that I do need I need machine learning and that I can use to 100%. I don’t give a shit about everything else it’s under warranty I’m not going to overclock it. I don’t know what you understand. It’s a $2000 GPU and you think it’s smart to just throw that warranty right out the window?
Amd updated their drives ages ago.... Maybe you shouldn't believe old statements lol. Overclocking doesn't void your warranty, it never did at all, even getting rid of stickers wouldn't.
Are you drunk? Maybe next time read the TOS of your products makers, its true that the warranty void sticklers are bullshit and not lawfully enforceable, but a warranty is something different from guarantee. Warranty is something the provider of the card/cpu/motherboard etc. provides to you, its a service, that they can terminate at any reason given in the TOS. For example if you don't directly buy something off a site like ebay you are the second buyer, voiding your warranty. The person entitled with the warranty is the first person who purchased the product. Open AMD Ryzen Master or go into the bios, guess what message appears?
"What is overclocking?
It is important to note that any form of manual CPU overclocking, including using the AMD Ryzen Master Utility may damage your processor and invalidate the warranty1."
Nearly all AMD CPU & Nvidia world record are set on windows 10, yet you deny the trend or the countless articles online saying you shouldn't update without reason to windows 11 with that reason.
The cpu has the same scores on win11, its the combination that somehow doesn't work. Clean install not even 2 weeks old. Downloaded right off the microsoft servers.
people are hating 4060 ti to the core but I just bought it and it's a heck of an upgrade from my 4-year old 2060 super
Hello is this a good pc for 3d rendering (blender, UE 5..etc) and gaming (valroant, spiderman.. etc)? btw I am gonna add another storage on top of the SSD so don't worry about that
TOS has no legal precedent in courts (was thrown out of court a couple years ago), you can overclock your hardware and keep your warranty which is legally required at this point. Like at this point I think you have just build your first PC ever, you just aren't that knowledgeable on these matters at this moment.... It's just legal saying tbh, like a company wouldn't allow auto overclocks including on the board itself (which are numbers and guidelines of AMD/Intel/Nvidia btw) to cause you lose your warranty. They just have to get every possible scenario covered in their legal text so no one can sue them over it. Like basically you already voided your warranty under those rules, enabling something like XMP or EXPO is overclocking. Even enabling something like rebar would then void your warranty too.
Like honestly you came here to say Intel was a joke and all you have done so far is some "copium". Oh it isn't AMD fault the CPU runs worse it's MS ! (even though it was fixed by MS and AMD drivers), Oh it isn't AMD it's fault it's worse in gaming, Intel is just better !, Oh it isn't AMD fault we get much lower 3Dmark scores, It's those damned watercooled hardware (that both systems have and magically work better on Intel) ! (While you can't even read a date on a simple article and look through the drivers updates if it's already fixed at this point). Here is the first result that popped up out of your "countless articles" https://www.theverge.com/2022/11/30/23485717/microsoft-windows-11-gaming-performance-issues-fix And here are your countless vids (the first one that popped up on google) https://youtu.be/pDR0j0pa-s0
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AMD is still cheaper for good results
Not in this new generation lol
Don't use userbenchmarks....
It's massively in favour of Intel
But now try to get a board for either 😉 Try to put a Z690 vs a X670 you will see what I mean.
My local part seller :/
Now look at boards
You can get a Z690 for like 150 ? Try to find a X670 below 300 well maybe 250 these days.
Add that on top of those prices
Then AM5 only works with DDR5 add those also on top of those prices.
You can build a cheaper 13th gen PC than an AM5 PC at this moment because AMD lack of market knowledge of still supporting DDR4 which gives a huge advantages in the price market to Intel.
And that cheaper Intel PC will still outperform that more expensive AMD PC at this moment.
And it might by a large margin, all you save on that board and RAM you can put towards a far better GPU.
I have got these:
They both support DDR5, and AM5 for the AMD one
13th GEn also supports DDR4
That's why you have Intel DDR4 and DDR5 boards.
Even on the Z790 platform, you have DDR4 and DDR5 variants.
With Intel you have a choice going from the cheaper DDR4 Option and even the cheaper boards (which has no real difference to the new ones) or go for the most expensive DDR5 option with the brand new boards.
AMD: You get 1 choice and 1 choice only....the most expensive DDR5 and their lack of budget boards on launch has hurt their rep with it.
So for AMD still claiming they are gamers for gamers with budget and choice.... I mean they are limiting you a whole lot with AM5 which btw wasn't even finished to release by what Tech jesus found out.
Ye, its true
LIke if you are on a budget you can just go to the Z690 platform and spend between 100 to 200 extra on your GPU, that CPU will still do the same job as on a Z790 board while you just got for example a 3080 instead of a 3070.
tho, for not that much money, I got a cheap R7 2700X in 2021, because my old R3 1200 was ded
and it works great
Oh for AM4, AMD was killing it.
But the company changed, they got cocky and tbh are wasting their potentional.
Also, since I was doin some Linux, I prefered taking a Radeon 6600, since the NVidia equivalent were more expansive, for less compatibility
Is all fair and fine, like I will never tell someone to not buy X brand because it has a brand name. It's so important to look at the current prices, performance, your own needs and what you expect from the product. I don't really care if someone buys AMD, Intel or Nvidia it's their own choices and they can make their own opinions on which suits them better. However when someone like that says a whole CPU/platform is a joke then I will go harder on them.
With AMD having a more open source approach can make them better for linux users yeah, even though Nvidia also works great depending what you want to do.
Also, I've kept my old RX560, and now, I can have 2 OS on my computer, one for each monitors
Are you able to, for a lack of a better term, CrossFire/SLI newer GPUs?
Higher end GPUs of corse.
Technically yes but only on the flagship cards and very few games support it.
It is mostly used for professional applications now.
oh wait
I can get help on PC builds here
You are welcome to suggest things, and yes I know how to custom water loop if that is in fact better
Is that your max budget or still room?
10k
is my actual budget
but I would like to avoid water loops
if the cost of effectiveness is worth then I will consider it.
but I'm trying to build a PCI-5 / DDR5 build.
@drowsy rapids
10k American or Canadian orrr?
I'm American.
For 10k you can get TWO beast pcs
which makes sense.
since I want to stream, one for gaming one for capturing/editing
but problem for later, so let's keep the first in a 6k budget then?
Are you looking for a prebuilt with warranty or something to build yourself?
Same, I bought mine on sale for a wicked deal and just kind of been adding to it and changing things
Then I would go all out myself
I don't really know what is "All out"
5k is already alot for a good pc
Switch to z790, a 13900kf and go at least 6000 ddr5 because there it actually does make a difference in some games and in the future.
Z970 Motherboard? or
Z790, I sometimes switch numbers 
uhh
crap
I can't choose first
oh
that's cause I already have it
so I already have the Z790
I would need to update my memory accordingly.
I avoid intel but that’s just my preference.
Well still idk why anyone would avoid Intel atm, with AM5 being such disaster
Worse performance for basically more money at this point and get on a buggy unfinished platform.
and I can actually keep my memory I have since it supports 4.
Funny thing I have the updated AIO of the one you picked xD
NZXT Kraken Z73 360mm Liquid Cooler with LCD Display LGA 1700 Compatible - White
this?
Yeah I have the kraken elite, which is technically updated but they are still kinda the same
The LCD is pretty funny
Well I use the 360mm version ofc
wat
Idk if you have it in white though
Probs had a random word in it, most likely a couple of caps after each other.
I'll stick to what I have for now for the AIO
You should just go to r/pcmasterrace
They are pretty much the same yeah
alright I updated the list.
4707.88
not including the fact I need to find a new case, power supply, and GPU
elsewhere
Probs the 4090 pushing that price up
What you build a PC that can run anything you want and instead watch youtube vids 
I have atm a 4080 and that is already pretty beast lol
Switched my CPU recently from a 5800X3D to a 13600 though, was tired of AMD drivers and games keep giving issues and somehow switching to that DDR5 Intel system I gained 10 % in peformance from a 5800x3d...
So why are you even looking at a new gpu lol
so it's 4000, and anything below 4070 is a waste.
thus, I go 4070+
@tame fractal I'm looking to upgrade to the best of the best.
A 4090 will be good for the next couple years yeah
Having a 2080 super will be a big jump to a 4090
There is no point, inflation is so high you are over paying.
I mean
I live in a house that cost me 3500/m cause of a 60% inflation cost... trust me I know.
There is always a point, the thing with PC building is that you kinda decide yourself if it's worth it or not and he would double his performance lol.
I bought my PS5 for 1600
inflation is the least of my concerns
allow me to help.
I'm a game developer, that makes enough
That’s fantastic, I still don’t advise people to rip themselves off lol
He would go from like below 60 fps to 150 on 4k alone.
my current PC would be going to my brother btw
meaning I'm not just abandoning the PC I have
Well would be a waste, if not giving away always best to just sell the PC or parts anyway so someone else can enjoy it.
I mean
I give it to my brother
or some wanna be streamer
I have no reason to sell the PC I rather just give it
You are kinda like me then in this regard
Its a situation I sell if and it gets up priced and then I screw someone over
or I can sell the PC cheap / Give it away and make someone day
a lot of people can't afford what I can
soooo let's just give it
uknow?
I may be spoiled / semi-rich but I'm not a jerk
Well I sold my 3080 for like 650 to someone, I paid myself 1200 for it at some point. I gave my 2070s system away to a friend though with a 3700x in it.
What's the best gpu for my i5-11400F + EVGA 600W Gold
Depends on your budget
Can RTX 2080 Super handle 600W?
Technically it could, even though iirc Nvidia recommends 650
Or should i get RX 6600 XT instead
https://seasonic.com/wattage-calculator https://www.bequiet.com/en/psucalculator you could always use 1 of these links to double check.
Hello everyone
I have some question regard case fans and PSU
ARCTIC P12 are indeed the best cheap case fans on the market ?
And Corsair RMx Series™ RM850x, 80 PLUS® Gold, 850W, Fully Modular is indeed the best corsair PSU on the market ?
Is it the 2018 or the new model ? (forgot if they are 2020 or 2021)
Forgot to mention my bad
They are fine fans for the price point yeah
Love to see it
Even though iirc the max is their new upgraded one but idk how much they go for.
I don't want to pay 20+ euros for noctua because I'm going to buy only for the brand :/
And both have good rpm
Eeeh noctua is also special where it does affect temp by a decent amount, but they aren't needed either.
But I do think the artic P12 max are better overall for not that much more.
At least here they are only like 2 euro more or something.
If you want the most of the most budget, then sure go with the none max they are probs still 1 of the best budget fans you can possible get. Their max is just an upgraded design with a higher RPM, better static pressure and has pads.
Good to know
I guess I'm going for 3x Arctic P12 for my corsair 4000D
Again
I wanted to buy Corsair iCUE QL140 RGB
100+ euros O_O
I said ''hell neah''
They have RGB so ofc they cost like 300 % more
I use the same PSU really, but they just use seasonic parts so corsair always has been a good brand.
Corsair is nothing more than a rebranded seasonic unit
I didn't know this wow
Unless you go with their like cheap series, they well yeah not amazing.
But happens nearly all the time where "gaming" brands just rebrand other better manufacturers xD.
I just use Corsair, because they have their own sleeved cables and they are easy to work with.
@dim osprey Also segotep is good
Asus rog strix z690 or tuf-plus z690 ?
i7-12700kf
@dim osprey @drowsy rapids Good combo ?
Just pick whichever has the features you want for the cheapest price
Which most likely is the tuf
Tuf is better than Asus prime correct ?