pc-build-help

[flat lynx]

PC building was so much simpler then. There wasn't a gazillion things to plug in. Now you got all the RGBs, and pumps, and more RGBs.

[calm birch]

myself with a lot of youtube

[flat lynx]

My only suggestion is, don't rush it.

My first time building, it took me like 6 hours lol

[calm birch]

I might ask my dad. hes a big tech guy for OCLC

but id rather not lol

[flat lynx]

Hey man, any help is better than no help...Unless the person you ask for help just wants to be like "do it like this, like that"

[calm birch]

off topic, I keep getting an error on gamepass when I try to dl a game it says my "Disk volume does not support encrption"

[flat lynx]

Shit, if you need help, I'll even jump on a video call so I can direct you lmao

[calm birch]

Nah hes a self righteous dingus and not a very good dude

But I might take you up on that

[flat lynx]

Try changing your drives through the storage manager to another drive, and then change it back

[calm birch]

english?

[flat lynx]

Press the WIN button, type in storage settings

From there. on the bottom area, look for "change where content is saved to"

Change whatever drive they're currently on, to a different drive. Don't forget to hit apply. Give it a few seconds, or minutes

Change them back to the old drives

Should fix your problem

[pale venture]

this is my PC, bought it on 2020 and all components came and installed them right before cyberpunk 2077 came. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JPgJDq at that time, it was like 10k something euros. Plus 2 monitors, keyboard, mouse, mousepads and noctua fans instead of standard fans from the case that blow 3000 rpm, it sounds like an airplane and it cools like it. but i dont care, i have headsets and i dont hear a thing, dont need to watch the temps. The only downside of my rig is that this rig would work marvelously with full water cooling system but i use it as a render station, meaning... if a leak happens while i am not near it...

also, my suggestion is: Pick 2 x 144hz or 1 with 144 and 1 with 120 and use the second one to surf stuff or do other stuff while the game loads or something. a 49 inch Monitor is big enough to destroy your eyes if you are too close.

Also for a better color and such, IPS is the way but that also increases the price by quite alot

[calm birch]

so shiny lol

🤤

[flat lynx]

Damn

I've never seen anyone build with TR4

[pale venture]

it's massive

speaking of massive...

[flat lynx]

192GBs of RAM...goddamn lmao

What madness compelled you to do this? Are you a movie student?

[calm birch]

TFU3 is secretly your personal FBI agent. Needs all that ram to process your pron viewing lol

[flat lynx]

Lolol

With that setup, I'd believe it 50%

[pale venture]

8 x 32 gb

[flat lynx]

Oh it's 8

256GBs*

Idk why I only saw 3 sets

[calm birch]

Seeing the world in 20k lol

[flat lynx]

That is the very definition of a workstation, and then some

[pale venture]

well no, actually my monitors make my setup a shame

60 hz ips monitors

[flat lynx]

[calm birch]

overkill meet underwhelm lol

[flat lynx]

Just take mine

[pale venture]

because for a workstation, you dont need hz, you need clarity, that is where IPS is at

[flat lynx]

I have 2x Asus 27'' 1440p 144hz IPS monitors

IPS only or die

[calm birch]

What is IPS?

[vagrant lynx]

Internet Service Provider

[flat lynx]

It's a type of screen for the monitor.

[vagrant lynx]

lol

[flat lynx]

It's got better quality angles (meaning that when you look at your monitor from the side, it won't turn gray, or black, like other ones.) It also provides the most vibrant colors stock

[calm birch]

Thats ISP lol

[vagrant lynx]

I know xD

[pale venture]

https://www.viewsonic.com/library/photography/what-is-an-ips-monitor-panel/

[flat lynx]

It's my preference of choice. And I will not go down anything less than 120hz

[calm birch]

so ips doesnt have to do at all with led vs qled ?

[flat lynx]

I mean

LED or QLED can be IPS

You're getting the best of all worlds

Those are also expensive af

2 kidneys please

[calm birch]

thats what i meant. I was trying to ask if you had to forgo led/q;led but my brain is dead after taking care of 3 semen demons today (toddlers)

[pale venture]

depends, 1 if you put it on auction house

anyway, i may invest in the future for an IPS 144hz monitor

[flat lynx]

You might as well do it now lol.

[pale venture]

nah, this time, i need to keep my money

[calm birch]

So with that much ram, can you like...see into the future?

[pale venture]

no, because nothing ever passed 20%

[flat lynx]

He's got a mini NASA space station

[calm birch]

I believe it

[pale venture]

well, i can say, it could have been much better

[flat lynx]

Pffft

[pale venture]

like 3990x threadripper with 4 x 3090ti

with waterblocks etc

[flat lynx]

You still haven't told me what you use that fusion reactor for

[calm birch]

my low income heart weeps at the price tag of this convo lmao

[flat lynx]

Oh please, you're one to talk

Your upcoming setup is 2.5x more expensive than mine

Lol

[pale venture]

currently i am not rendering since, the prices for energy are quite high so i put one gpu at 85% power and the other one at lowest so, not much, also when i put cpu at high performance, it feels like a jet is in the room

[flat lynx]

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/KyoHayabusa/saved/4TtTYJ for reference, this is mine @calm birch

[flat lynx]

Jeezus lol

[calm birch]

doesnt even need to turn on the heat in the winter

[pale venture]

for gaming would be more than enough your pc

[flat lynx]

That's what mine is lol. I open my windows, and my PC stays at a cool 33c all things considered

And also heats my room, sometimes

[calm birch]

right now i just have an hp omen 15 laptop with a 1060 in it

[pale venture]

these are the fans that i have on my case 6 of them 140mm

https://www.amazon.com/Noctua-Bearing-NF-A14-iPPC-3000-PWM/dp/B00KFCRF1A

[calm birch]

yet it still hits like 99F

[flat lynx]

That's what happens when you have 3 powerplants in your case

[calm birch]

the keyboard gets too hot to play after a bit

[flat lynx]

34c is not bad though for an extremely overkill system

[calm birch]

turn it sideways and putprops and you have a reaaalllyy expensive drone

[pale venture]

why does your keyboard gets hot?

[flat lynx]

Cause laptop

[pale venture]

ohh

[flat lynx]

All the fans blowing air into it

[pale venture]

have you considered a laptop cooler?

[calm birch]

that and the omen has really bad exhaust design

i have a cooling pad but its not enough

[pale venture]

how old is your laptop?

[calm birch]

and the exhaust vents dont allo0w for the vac fans

[flat lynx]

Do the next best thing, game with a controller on your laptop

[calm birch]

2016

[flat lynx]

That's what I used to do

[pale venture]

well, when was the last time you cleaned it?

[calm birch]

I think it also probably needs some more arctic silver on it but im too afraid to take it apart

I clean the dust out 1x a month

[pale venture]

so you open it and clean it properly right?

[calm birch]

the omen everything is right against the bottom intake panel so i just blow out dust and then open and make sure its clean. but do you mean with alc?

[flat lynx]

Been nice chatting fellas, but I'ma go make myself some dinner

[pale venture]

have a good one

[calm birch]

have a good night

[pale venture]

what i meant is open it and clean it, not really taking it apart but properly open it, also, could be the thermal paste that needs to be replaced

if you are afraid, take it to a pc service, i did the same, since i didn't want to screw it up

[calm birch]

so when i open it and blow at dust it looks pretty brand new still, no caked dust or residue

[pale venture]

did you check the laptop temperatures?

with either cpuid or hardware monitor

[calm birch]

but I think its just a thermal paste issue and bad ventilation design. the omen laptops are notorious for getting really hot

yeah it has a built in temp program

[pale venture]

ok, then if you are afraid, try to find a local pc service that has license not some rando on the corner of the street and invest money for maintenance

[calm birch]

or so it says

this is baseline

but it doesnt feel that hot rn

the air co ing out is slightly warmer than room temp

[pale venture]

it looks ok

[warped hamlet]

132 looks ok

?

[pale venture]

F yes, not C

C would be like brr this is on fire

[calm birch]

lol melted to my lap

[warped hamlet]

Holy

[calm birch]

ill post my gaming heat

[warped hamlet]

I got scared for you

[calm birch]

its usually at like 190F or 209F when playing games

So I usually hook it up to the tv, grab a game pad and pace a tower fan to blow underneath it and that seems to drop it to the 160's

place*

[pale venture]

well

209 is very, very high

i think it even passes the highest temps

[calm birch]

right now its jumping t=from 183 to 204

[pale venture]

even then it reaches crit temperatures

i think the thermal paste is faulty

if i where you, and had a bit money put aside, i would take it to a pc service and tell them to clean it and apply new thermal paste

if that wont fix it, then consider buying a new rig all together and use the laptop for web surfing and such

[calm birch]

the latter is pretty much my plan

[pale venture]

i remember a situation like you had and i use my 17 inch laptop for just that because otherwise, it will burn

[calm birch]

is it expensive to have it cleaned and new thermal applied?

[pale venture]

even now, i am using the laptop for work only to read stuff and surf web

shouldnt

because they know what they have to do

that is why i would put emphasis on pc service with license for such stuff

[calm birch]

I think the program might be faulty bc one screen shows my gpu and cpu at 132 and the other shows it at 204

[pale venture]

download cpuid it is a tool that monitors temps, usage etc

[pale venture]

your cpu is very hot for not doing anything

[calm birch]

which tool there are like 20 on cpuid.com

[pale venture]

hwmonitor

[pale venture]

do you play something currently?

[calm birch]

yeah i am playing pillars of eternity on max graphics

which is all that much

isnt

[pale venture]

ohh ok, so it is under load

[calm birch]

yeah

[pale venture]

and what about the cpu?

[pale venture]

red is red...

have you tried to reinstall your windows? Maybe you have a virus or something

[calm birch]

yeah I did a fresh install 2 days ago

I even tried just factory reset

I'll try the clean and new paste and see what happens

[pale venture]

i mean , i would def. bring it to a pc service, the laptop isnt that old, you could still use it, maybe with a 50 dollars cleanup, it will get better

[calm birch]

Ill do that next week

should i not play games on it then while I wait?

[pale venture]

i would not risk it to be honest

read something meanwhile

[calm birch]

Welp time to shut down 😭

thanks for all the help

[pale venture]

you can still use it just make sure you dont boil it

i read alot of manga for example and it barely uses anything resource wise

also, if could ask them how much it costs the repair, because if it costs more than the laptop, i wouldnt fix it

[calm birch]

yeah. it just sucks, bc its not always red its just random spikes every few seconds

[pale venture]

thats why i think there is still hope

[calm birch]

it was a refurbish to so maybe bad refurbish job

well Im gonna hop off and let it cool

thanks

[pale venture]

hope you will get it fixed very cheap

[calm birch]

So I did a last ditch thing went to bios and changed my cpu power setting from default to 35W and now my temps in gameplay are 79C

[pale venture]

maybe you where overclocking it

[calm birch]

It was set to default. I dont think you can overclock this cpu. Intel i7-8750H

It defaults at 45W

[balmy rapids]

have you tried to put new thermal past on the CPU and do you have any thing running in the back ground that is not being detected I would try a fresh install of windows and new past and give it a good cleaning

[drowsy rapids]

The 90C is pretty normal under load for that CPU.

8750H is known to be pretty hot in a lot of laptops, which reaches 90C or a bit over with it's turbo boost. Iirc the CPU is specced at TJmax of 100C by Intel themselves so yeah.

[pale venture]

the issue is that it was not under load and when it reaches 100°, even under load, something is wrong

[drowsy rapids]

Yeah then something is broken

Sorry only half read stuff earlier xD

[obsidian solar]

Is Zotac 3060ti oc twin edge good?

[pale venture]

@calm birchthis is my temps

[calm birch]

Under load?

[agile kelp]

Hey All, Hoping you can help me with a Dilema, I am running an I7 7700K which is the highest chip my MOBO will support, I bought a 3070 Aorus master this time last year and am thinking of upgrading my CPU, BUT I can't do that until I update my MOBO. soooooooo do I upgrade to a new DDR4 Mobo or DDR5 for future proofing? BTW I play in 1440 at 144hz. and shoudl I save a little and go 12th gen OR go 13th Gen???? any help is apprecited

PS I have 32Gb of 3600 DDR for I could potentially reuse?

[pale venture]

no, ofc not, i will post them under load and with high performance cpu activity

gpu doesn't go over 80°C even if i put it 100% power

[pale venture]

i'd say go with ddr5 if you plan to change mobo, rams and cpu. Also, depends how old is your system

my suggestion is to gather cash... mobo isn't pricey neither are rams but cpu is ... also, consider AMD, unless you really need intel

[calm birch]

So i lowered the wattage to 25W @pale venture now my temps are steady at 65C. So it looks like its most definitely thermal paste issue

Highest temp today while gaming was 71c

[pale venture]

that is a good temp but still doesnt eliminate the issue

[calm birch]

I am still going to research how to do it myself and then go buy the paste

Might as well learn on a relatively cheap laptop than to make a mistake when I build my rig

[warm pulsar]

guys i need you're help i need a buget PC

this is what i have now :
CPU: i7 3770
Mainboard: MSI H61-P30 (MS-7680)
Memory: DDR3 16G
Graphics car: AMD Radeon (TM) R9 fury series
Case: Coolermaster

[pale venture]

what is your budget and what country

[warm pulsar]

budget = 1000 euro's
Country = Netherlands

[drowsy rapids]

Intel is in a better spot atm though, at least if you go 13th gen vs zen 4.

[pale venture]

intel is usually more expensive compared to amd... amd is better imo for gaming than intel is... intel is overall, like for everything but amd is more focused on gaming.

[drowsy rapids]

13th gen is cheaper than AMD and outperforms the zen 4.

AMD has always been behind in gaming, because of Intel higher core frequencies.

Most games still don't use that much of proper multi cores, even though Intel caught up really fast to it too. Not to mention when there is an issue CPU wise, it's usually AMD that is the victim too. Saw this with rockstar and CDPR games.

[naive rune]

i9-9980xe
RTX 2080 ti
1200 Watt PSU
64 GB DDR4

Best setup still to this day. higher numbers doesnt always mean better.

[warm pulsar]

i only do gaming on my PC

and do u guys also have something around 600 euro?

[drowsy rapids]

It's possible, but it will start to depend what kind of sacrifices you want to make.

Like the used market is extremely strong right now and you can build a pretty good rig out of it.

[warm pulsar]

true true

[drowsy rapids]

Like with such low specs, even putting a 20 super series and a zen 3 CPU in it will be a huge improvement. Hell might even find a 6000 or 30 series these days for a very low price.

[pale venture]

https://nl.pcpartpicker.com/list/BJxJDq

[drowsy rapids]

Even brand new it isn't uncommon to find a mobo and zen 3 combo for 200 ish and a 6000 or 30 series for 200 to 300 ish.

isn't the tomahawk cheaper than the MSi board?

[pale venture]

i dont check cheaper, i check pieces that have good reviews

[drowsy rapids]

Also Corsair PSUs are cheaper

[pale venture]

depends on what country

[drowsy rapids]

Tomahawk is 1 of the best mid range boards on the market

He is in NL, I know the prices there relative xD

[pale venture]

in USA pc components are cheaper but in Europe, they are like 20% more expensive

[drowsy rapids]

Not always though

40 series are cheaper here than in the US atm if you look properly.

[pale venture]

things produced here , are same ish prices

[drowsy rapids]

While 7000 series are more expensive

Also Intel is about 20 to 40 USD cheaper than AMD, because of their production here.

[pale venture]

i made him a list so that he can enjoy playing most of the games, surely if he can invest more into cpu, it will make even better but he still needs a case, monitor/s, peripherals like mouse and keyboard etc

[warm pulsar]

i have al that stuff

[drowsy rapids]

He might be able to resuse the case tbf, while I say the used market is extremely strong where he lives.

[pale venture]

well yeah, also some things can be upgraded in the future

[warm pulsar]

this me now

[pale venture]

i havent checked the mobo what types of cpu is compatible in the future so , he may want to check what he's plans are for the future

a suggestion

leave some air to exhaust from your pc or it will get hot like a toaster

[drowsy rapids]

If a tight budget and only using brand new parts, I might go eagle myself for the GPU. Generally is a lot cheaper in EU.

[warm pulsar]

exhoust is here

[pale venture]

my point exactly

5cm is not enough

[warm pulsar]

intake here

[pale venture]

intake is okay'ish but exhaust need more distance between where it comes out and the wall

[warm pulsar]

so much space left

[pale venture]

basically you need about 15 cm distance between pc and the wall

for optimal exhausting

[drowsy rapids]

Is why I always prefer exhaust at the top myself.

[pale venture]

i have 1 back 2 top intake is all front

[warm pulsar]

i only have 2 fan connector

[pale venture]

to me, that pc looks like you bought it from retail

they never make such pc... great for airflow nor care much about power supply

[drowsy rapids]

Might also be a very old coolermaster case, ppl weren't that smart yet back in the day with airflow.

[warm pulsar]

it has great ari flow like exhaust wind is cold

[naive rune]

i would destroy you in echo vr

[warm pulsar]

xD

[naive rune]

have you played that game?

[warm pulsar]

yes

1 time

[naive rune]

oh

im a league player

[warm pulsar]

nice

[naive rune]

im joining diamond team tonight and gonna get 0 bitches

[pale venture]

experienced in toxicity art 1000

[warm pulsar]

idk what to do in that game

[naive rune]

pretty much

[naive rune]

its like soccer and basketball but in space

and in vr if you didnt know

[pale venture]

anyway, lets move from this channel if we gonna talk about games

[warm pulsar]

back to the buget PC

[pale venture]

a good pc requires imo about 1500 euros to be spent

because just the gpu and cpu would be almost 900 euros

[naive rune]

thats like 500 US

CPUS would be around like 300 murican dollars and gpus lil bit more

[pale venture]

depends, 3060 is still a good gpu but without a proper cpu you will be limited by some games that also need cpu

[naive rune]

i built my pc for 900 murican dollars and my gpu only costed 180 murican moneys

get a i7-7700k and youll be set

no need to go higher then that

[pale venture]

as i said before, depending on the country you live in, VAT is a thing in Europe

[naive rune]

well yeah but some friends of mine live in england and they have i7-7700k's

im using a i5-7500 and a gtx 1050 ti on my mid end pc

its a great starter pc

[pale venture]

yeah but i doubt he has plans to change hardware after a year or so

[naive rune]

the last build i did has a i9-9980xe and GTX 1080 ti's quad sli and it doesnt make much difference

[pale venture]

and nobody wants to be stuck on games because limitations

[naive rune]

should be replacing parts every 2 years otherwise hardware failure will happen alot

[pale venture]

with good maintenance, that is pretty improbable

[naive rune]

like your storage drives will get old enough where they will become slower and slower to the point where it takes you 45 minutes to start it in the morning

even the wires for your fans will short out so you need to replace some things but everything else maybe not unless you want to upgrade

[pale venture]

that can happen with HDD if you constantly install and delete things

with M.2, rarely also with SSD same

[naive rune]

SSD's can be expensive tho

[pale venture]

yeah, well, for quality you pay, for cheap stuff, you pay less

[noble flame]

Hi guys, I'm looking for a 750w PSU that can support a msi RTX 3080 Gaming Trio Z. What do you guys recommend? I was hoping for a non-modular one so i don't have to buy the cables as well, i just feel like its a bit of a hassle, however i am open to it if someone can convince me.

[pale venture]

i'd say, gold+ and brands like superflower, be quiet!, corsair, cooler master

but i would say corsair

and evga also a good brand

[noble flame]

I was looking at corsair and they have some interesting ones

do you have any specific one in mind?

[pale venture]

well if you need a 750w one check that one and check the reviews for it

corsair is a pretty good psu brand

now, before you buy, don't take my word as granted, some hardware can be faulty from the get go so but that is where warranty is good at

and gold or platinum givey you quite the warranty

[noble flame]

Alright i'll keep that in mind thanks

I noticed that all the ones i found dont seem to have 3 8 pin cables for the GPU

i mean 3 pcie ports/cables. i'm kinda new to Modding my PC so forgive me for asking stupid questions

[pale venture]

it should work thou

[noble flame]

Alright, thanks for the help.

[noble flame]

Can you see these specs on their website?

i mean what website is that?

[twilit forum]

Ok so i was wondering if ill be able to connect my pc to my laptop as the primary monitor?

I havnt gotten a monitor for my pc yet but ill soon buy one.

[pale venture]

pcpartpicker

good site to build a system and get announced when something doesnt match

[noble flame]

Thank you very much

[terse ferry]

@twilit forumnot unless u have video input device

[river bronze]

Remote Desktop could work, wouldn't play games using it tho

[flat lynx]

Laptops DO NOT receive incoming video, they only output

[open solstice]

I ordered parts to build my first custom pc last year been running with it since but I’m looking to upgrade parts or something like that am I allowed to post the pics of the parts for it and ask if y’all could recommend any upgrades?

[smoky shuttle]

yup 🙂

Also feel free to just post specs

[open solstice]

Is that right? Sorry kinda a noob 😅

[flat lynx]

What are you looking to upgrade

[open solstice]

Probably more memory internal or external and getting a d drive to run discs because my build didn’t include one also maybe internal or external Bluetooth connectivity, if that makes any sense

[flat lynx]

More memory, like RAM? Or do you mean storage.

What you're asking about aren't really upgrades, they're just side add-ons. You can buy a bluray drive for like $40. And Bluetooth dongle is like $15-30

What do you do with your PC? 16GBs is plenty good enough for the average gamer

[open solstice]

Good to know more like what would you recommend here’s my parts

My towers not a mini I changed that part

[open solstice]

Mainly gaming, modding and a few other odds and ends

[flat lynx]

Okay. And what type of games do you wanna play? This will give a better idea of what to recommend. The only thing you really need to worry about at this point in time is -

• A stronger Power Supply
• Better GPU, depending on your budget and target game(s)

[open solstice]

Gotcha

Mainly playing day z and older games like stalker

Mostly day z cause I do custom console mods atm but trying to branch into pc mods making custom textures models etc …

[flat lynx]

And how much of a budget do you have for upgrades?

[open solstice]

Wanting to possibly remake the suffering an old ps2 game with modern graphics and animations kinda like colisto but not as many bugs lol , just deciding between unreal or unity as my base engine

[open solstice]

Atm 500 realistically

[flat lynx]

Hmm

[flat lynx]

Keep in mind, I only explored Nvidia GPUs as an option. I didn't really consider the new AMD XT cards, but I think whatever tier the 2060 is in, it will trade punches with the counterpart

[flat lynx]

Based on your budget,

I can recommend a few things -

Option 1 -

Bump up your GPU to an RTX 2060 (goes for around $279 right now). It's a little old, but it can still play most triple A and modern games at 1080 high/med settings. And then also going with a 650W Gold PSU. I know yours is 650W right now, but it's not Gold certified. A gold cert will run more efficiently, and will ensure constant power to your new GPU. For this instance, I would recommend the RM650 by corsair. It's around $84.

279 + 84 = 363

A modest upgrade, for a more beefy experience. You can also take an extra $60~ to get another set of 16GB RAM, and put your system RAM to 32GBs.

363 + 60 = 423.

• RTX 2060 - $280
• RM650 - $84
• +16GBs of RAM - $55-60

Total = $423~

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Option 2 -

Take the RM650 PSU ($84), and pair it up with an RTX 3060, which retails for around $350. This will further boost your experience, and really let you play any game at High 1080p. This would bring the budget up to $450 (give or take taxes).

• RM650 - $84
• RTX 3060 - $350~

Total = $435 - $450 (with taxes and such)

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Option 3 -

For the last suggestion,

You can bump up your CPU to a Ryzen 7 5700x, which has 2 more cores, which will help a lot with your game development stuff. Paired with an RTX 2060, and you're off to the races for whatever game to play at high/med. This would also need RM650, and a half decent CPU cooler, which I recommend is the Hyper 212, a tried and true cooler that is very, very, popular among PC builders. It used to be only like $30, but inflation has caused it to be around $45 now.

With that in mind, this upgrade is overbudget, but also deliver a better experience from both productivity and gaming.

• RM650 - $84
• RTX 2060 - $280~
• Ryzen 7 5800x - $200
• Hyper 212 Evo

Total = $610~

[steep harness]

hey this is what im running right now if i upgrade my ram to a 16 or a 32 will it run my games a lil better

Device name DESKTOP-1MMP101
Processor
Installed RAM 8.00 GB (7.34 GB usable)
Device ID 604221EB-3D6D-4E05-99FA-3702A877A7C8
Product ID 00325-97248-35519-AAOEM
System type 64-bit operating system, x64-based processor
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idk why my processor is not showing up for

[drowsy rapids]

It will, you kinda need 16GB as a min these days

Most games will use more than 8GB now.

[steep harness]

Ok so a 16 to a 32 will be a good upgrade thank you for the help I will get ready to upgrade soon

[river bronze]

5700X exists?

[river bronze]

better censor that product ID

[flat lynx]

I don't see why it wouldn't. It's been out for a while now.

[river bronze]

i only know of the 5600X and 5800X for desktops at least

[drowsy rapids]

It does yeah, but there is not much point of getting it.

It's nothing more than a cheaper 5800x if you use PBO, but 5800x is only like 30 or something more so it's just better getting that one instead.

[flat lynx]

I doubt the person who I suggested it to is gonna do any overclocking. Plus, you're going from a 65W to a 105W CPU. Dude's on a budget, and I'm sure he'd like every penny saved towards a better cooler at least, or w/e else.

[drowsy rapids]

Overclocking ? xD

[flat lynx]

That's what PBO is no? Automatic OC'ing. He doesn't need more heat and wattage use, just needs more headroom

[drowsy rapids]

It isn't a normal OC, so temps or something doesn't really increase especially not by so much it would need a way better cooler.

It's just an automatic very soft OC decide by AMD, but then again if on budget you can just go 5600x which will do the job more than enough and a lot of times for cheaper than the 5700x. Also on a tight budget it might be worth much more looking at AMD for a GPU. You lose the Ray tracing but on such tight budget you won't do it well anyway.

So then rasterization becomes more important which AMD will do more for cheaper, especially with the 6000 prices.

Like a 6700xt will be the same price as a 3060

While performance uplift is like 20 % ish ?

[open solstice]

Thank you ❤️🤓👍

[light ridge]

You ever consider joining a tech support and pc building server? I'm a tech aid in a pretty active one called Geek Central. You should check us out. You're very knowledgeable and our head guy has like a 10.5k pc that he does all kinds of crazy stuff with. He bought the asus rog strix 4090

And since I've been talking to you for about 30-60 minutes, I don't get a crazy vibe so you'd be a nice person to often chat about pc stuff with our staff and people

[drowsy rapids]

Will think about it.

[light ridge]

Yeah more than welcome. Just seemed like you liked to help and smart so couldn't resist

[pale venture]

just bought this for my cpu https://www.corsair.com/us/en/Categories/Products/Liquid-Cooling/iCUE-ELITE-CAPELLIX-Liquid-CPU-Cooler/p/CW-9060055-WW

[flat lynx]

Good choice

[drowsy rapids]

There is not many wrong choices you can make tbf with aios

[calm birch]

@pale venture is the amd 7900 xtx worth it?

I was going to the 3090

[pale venture]

well imo if you dont plan to do some 3d art, 7900 is cheaper and more game orientated than 3090

but make sure you get extra warranty

[calm birch]

Than thats what I will do.

[calm birch]

Will it work with the build setup you sent me?

[pale venture]

dont know let me check again

[calm birch]

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cMgczf

[pale venture]

which one of them you want?

the 7900 xtx

i have to check that case

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bmxctn

i had to check the case because i don't think the radiator would have been fine with your older case

cpu water cooler

[calm birch]

Radiator support better?

[pale venture]

the radiator for your build is 360mm

and the case couldn't fit it

basically, you would have noticed when it came

it is a nice looking case thou

[calm birch]

My original or the one above?

[pale venture]

your original

[calm birch]

You can pick the case. Prefs are black w/rgb and max cooling potential and if possible tempered glass

[pale venture]

this one has that

3 intake

top your cpu cooler

that will blow outside

back will blow outside as well

front intake, top exhaust, back exhaust

basically it will look something like this except the cheap slippers

also, cable management is imperative for airflow

you dont want a spaghetti, that is bad for airflow

another important thing, make sure you ask for opinions on this build, go to nexus gaming discord or such or reddit and such, ask them for their thoughts,

[calm birch]

Will do

[glad radish]

Hello I just got myself a new hard drive for my PC but the problem I don't know how to put it could help me?
LINK : https://www.amazon.fr/Seagate-St1000dmz10-Barracuda-Disque-Interne-Argent/dp/B07D99KFPK/ref=sr_1_5?crid=2P7BKU0XD8MIF&keywords=hdd%2B1to&qid=1671798189&sprefix=hdd%2Caps%2C67&sr=8-5&th=1

[flat lynx]

Nothing a YT vid can't help with.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_D0bwTd0PHM

It's a fairly straightforward process

[glad radish]

thank you so much

[glad radish]

the concern the cables are just there so it blocks in addition I see that you need a cable to connect to the motherboard but I have not received anything

[warm pulsar]

jesus mate go clean it

[glad radish]

I tried

we do as we can

[warm pulsar]

du u have a compressor

[glad radish]

don't worry

we do with the means at hand

[warm pulsar]

o i always do it what the compressor

[glad radish]

and you haven't seen the front yet

[warm pulsar]

let me see it

please

[warm pulsar]

well

that is a lot better than back side

[glad radish]

magnificent

[river bronze]

get an AIB card if you do mine has the 110c hotspot issue

[pale venture]

what is an aib card?

i dont think he wants to mine with it thou

[light ridge]

They forgot the comma. Pretty sure that mine is as in my card

[calm birch]

Yeah strictly gaming, and some video editing.

[river bronze]

AIB is like an ASUS version of the 7900XTX, Reference is the one from AMD themselves

[river bronze]

i did indeed, my card has the 110C hotspot issue which is a reference card problem the AIBs seem to be fine

[pale venture]

well, i think, this would be roughly what he wants https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bmxctn

[river bronze]

4200 without the GPU price sheeeeeesh

that's a 5400 usd build

[pale venture]

yep, but if you think about it, it will still be quite powerful after 4 years

[river bronze]

sure but a grand for a motherboard

i personally wouldn't do that

[pale venture]

well, i noticed it too but after some considereation, i thought that buying a cheap mobo can also fry your other hardware so

[calm birch]

So what liquid do i buy for the cooling system?

[pale venture]

all in one, already has liquid inside it

[calm birch]

Do I ever have to change it?

[drowsy rapids]

You have to replace the aio after x amount of years, because water does disappear ofc. Anyway that part list that was send is extremely bad value in every sense. You have the worst valued cpu, with the worst valued board, windows isn't needed and the psu is way too overkill even if you going to use it in 5 years from now.

If you going to spend that much on a build that are weird value choices even going all out in 1 area and then completely go mid in other parts, then just get a 4090 too even a 4080 will make way more sense at that point while upgrading the case for very little more money to for example a meshify 2 compact or a TD500. At this point they are around the same ish price.

[pale venture]

i dont trust nvidia to stick gaming in their gpu naming and making sure they are not for gaming, that happened with 3090. They said it was for gaming but it wasn't really.
the difference between amd 7900 and intel's i9 13900k is barely any noticeable from a gamer's stand. Also, intel kinda sux balls when it comes to over pricing their cpu's. It looks better on most of the benchmark comparisons but i can assure you, 150$ extra for like 15% better performance, is not worth it. 7900 is amd's flagship of the series and intel's flagship is 13900k. I don't have good experience with intel thou. Also amd's base clock is 4.7 ghz and intel is 3 ghz.

[drowsy rapids]

Where do you live if don't mind me asking? Because some pricing seems off from my standpoint.

The 13th gen is not only cheaper, but outperforms the 7000 series xD.

your whole nvidia thing though is pretty iffy at best, the 3090 is a gaming GPU, however everyone and their dogs know it was a Titan marketed for gaming (was in their own launch vid) because for some reason ppl started to buy titan GPUs and Nvidia capitalised on it while keeping their crown. So gains shouldn't have been expected to a huge amount. This is different in the 40 series though.

Doesn't explain why anyone would pair a $1400 GPU with a $1000 board, a 1200 Watt PSu which no one needs and then for some reason a $80 USD case. With then parts no one ever needs to play any game at all really, else go 30 series if they still in stock or just go to a 4080 which in many areas are getting around the same price as the xtx anyway.

Also why do you even mention base clocks, that's not what decides your performance to begin with. Not to mention that the 13900k clocks higher than the 7900x and I hope for everyone their bills that they remember to put on the eco mode on their 7000 series CPU. Else you use triple the power for no performance gain. Same with the GPUs, they use way more power than their competition and then they dared to talk like 40 min about how Intel and Nvidia is power inefficient...

Neither have I ever heard a decent motherboard fry any other hardware, because that's not what would do it to begin with, not to mention because AMD is incredible bad at scaling and advanced features the 7000 series GPUs will be irrelevant in 5 years if not much sooner at this rate. So basically I still have a lot of questions with the list and idk if anyone could answer them tbh .

[pale venture]

4090 is expensive than 7900 xtx, similar performance. 7900 xtx is cheaper than 3090, similar performance. 13900k is more expensive than 7900x not by much but still. The PSU is ok for that comp, i don't really see your argument valid there.

PS: so far, there are quite alot of returns of 4000 series going back fried. https://kotaku.com/nvidia-4000-series-graphics-card-burning-melting-1849702050

[drowsy rapids]

You shouldn't making lists, 4090 isn't needed and a 7900xtx isn't a 4090 it's a 3090ti at best in advanced and raster a 4080 at best. 1200watt PSU no one is their entire life is going to use that atm in gaming. 850w is even enough to carry a 4090.

I love you TFU3 but you should be nowhere near part lists, they don't make sense and when ppl explain to you then you just shrug it off with old outdated info.

[pale venture]

you do understand that if you have a psu with 1200w and you only need like 850w you will only use 850w, right?

[drowsy rapids]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ig2px7ofKhQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EIKjZ1djp8c

It will explain the melted cables, even 1 of the best techies on this planet didn't manage to get it to melt properly after consulting experts.

[drowsy rapids]

You do realise that if you have a 1200w PSU and you only use 850W (which nothing will do) you wasted like 200 extra USD on your PSU that you spend in better performing hardware?

[pale venture]

i read about it, it didn't say what it caused, but it even happened to them... on video. The cables had impurities that could cause the burn.

[drowsy rapids]

You also use way too much storage, who the heck needs 8TB of storage.

They had to try very very very very hard to get it to burn and not to mention was fixed with the next shipments.

Haven't happened to a single 4080 either.

[pale venture]

ahh ok, so when you buy it from the hardware shop, you need to pray that you get the latest shipments.

also, psu difference between 850w and 1200 is more like 40 bucks or so, depending on what company you chose to buy from

[drowsy rapids]

You don't have to pray, there is no first shipment left in stock anywhere on this planet.

And of the entire studio, Nvidia found only like 30 cases or something.

Which they have put entirely under warranty themselves personally, even though it was mostly user error causing it.

[pale venture]

well, GN said... unlikely or possibly. Do you believe they don't know how to connect gpu power properly ?

[drowsy rapids]

Do you believe every person on this planet is 100 % perfect everytime?

We have to fool proof every little thing all the time xD

[pale venture]

no, but they did want to specifically test it, they even went beyond and above to even x ray the cables

[drowsy rapids]

Fine

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CdxTTn half your cost, same in raster performance and will outperform your build by 2.5x in RT performance. For cooling if you want to go aio you can still do that too.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kGjv78 based on yours out of fun, with the GPU price still under what you going to pay and that as Intel which is more expensive there. If you go AMD you can get it below yours without a GPU price.

Even if you pick the most expensive one and going Intel, I managed to get the same performance as yours at just 4.5k, we know that a 7900xtx is at least 1300 to 1400 in US so add that on top of yours we are at 5.8k. So for nearly 2k less I managed to outperform your system.

The reason is no one needs that much of storage, took 4TB out of it, replaced the 1k board with a very good Intel board which is basically kinda the same. The rest spend on much better RAM, also went 4080 which will blow the 7900xtx out of the water with it's DLSS 3, frame generation and actual real RT performance. While you can see the 4080 is only 1.3k. So even if you for some reason want another kit of RAM or go for that 1200w PSU you would still be cheaper with mine.

[pale venture]

you know, you are right, when i presented him my version, i made it for like at least 5 years where he wouldn't have a problem changing hardware unless fried or damaged. Your version of presentation makes him impossible to be able to upgrade the PC after 5 years, because, intel is known to change sockets almost on every 2 years. So far, AMD5 will be at least 5 years into service. Does it cost more, yes, can it be upgraded, yes. Could i have changed some parts ? Yes, i would have changed the mobo but that is about it. The storage is depending on the person. I myself like to have space where i can store stuff that i don't need to overload m.2 or ssd. Now, you can dismiss my concern over the 4000 series but you may not know, i also got my 3090 when it came out... and 1 of them... fried. EVGA btw. Also, that intel cpu, is heavily based more on workstation duty, something, that i would need, can you game on it? Yes, do you need that many cores for a game? No, unless you make one.

So yeah, the 1300 or 1400 usd is a joke price.

[drowsy rapids]

It wouldn't last 5 years as explained above. He can still upgrade if you look at the CPU I am using. Also you don't switch cpu that often especially when playing at way high resolutions it matters not much anymore. Also amd hasn't even once said they will do the same with am5 like they did with AM4. No one needs 8tb, like even creators barely need that much. It was fried by using a bad game which everyone was warned about which only really happened to evga models. Funny amd has more cores than Intel and Intel outperforms in gaming because they have a higher single core clock.

[light ridge]

Just saying, my external is 16gb for my 3d modeling and animation files and software as well as music production softwares. 8tb wouldn't be enough for me with all that on top of my games. Lol.

[static warren]

Yeah, my sound libraries require a load of space as well, preferably SSD. No way in hell am I streaming audio from an HDD

[glad radish]

how can i put my hdd can you help me?

[lapis vigil]

hi guys! sorry to bother all or some of you.... Btw Happy holidays to all!
here the question, I have set up a new pc with Ryzen 7600x and one of my ddr5 has screwed up (16x2gb) i have vengeance rgb. i should buy a new set of the same? or should i try another ddr5? with more compatibility?
idk what to do... 😄

[blissful anvil]

pls guys I need help

please

anyone

[ripe mauve]

what's up

[blissful anvil]

when I buy free trial

is it for whole year?

because I paid 1300 czk

@ripe mauve

[ripe mauve]

the trial lasts 3 days

it's only available on the yearly plan

[blissful anvil]

I paid 1300 czk

[ripe mauve]

the charge you get at the start is a preauth, it goes away

it's not a real charge, you get the real one after the trial ends

[blissful anvil]

so I didnt lose my money?

wait look

[ripe mauve]

the preauth charge goes away

also the trial is for pro

/free

[echo jackal]

All of the mods are free to use with hotkeys! You can also rebind the hotkeys to your preference!
https://support.wemod.com/article/41-using-cheats-with-hotkeys

[blissful anvil]

wait

[tender temple]

Thank you for some reason i just got the message

[ripe mauve]

also

[blissful anvil]

so when I buy free trial for 3 days for 1300 czk and after it runs out then I will have it for year?

[tender temple]

Does anyone know Which Steering Wheel is Compatible with Forza horizon 4 ?

[blissful anvil]

idk

[tender temple]

😥

[blissful anvil]

@ripe mauve

is that right

am shaking right now

[ripe mauve]

you select the pro yearly plan with the trial
you get a preauth charge which goes away
you get 3 days to try out pro
if you don't cancel before that you get the real yearly pro plan charge
if you meant to cancel you can mail [e-mail] and they'll refund you

[blissful anvil]

oh thank you so much

[ripe mauve]

if you need more help read the #469130732594266122 and #📚┃frequently-asked-questions and post in #wemod-support next time

[deep yarrow]

i think all of the logitech g29/920, fanatec wheels, and trustmaster tmx pro/tx rw

[deep yarrow]

Yes, the g920 is supported. And on the PC, basically anything with a USB and input device is supported in Forza Horizon 4 (as with FM7). Forza Horizon 4 also ...

[tender temple]

Is it supported with Steam Forza Horizon version ?

[deep yarrow]

it should be and otherwise steam should tell you

[tender temple]

Thank you very much you were a big help

[drowsy rapids]

Steam or not, doesn't really matter.

[tender temple]

Saw a youtube video saying only the Microsoft Store Version is supported

so i had to make sure

[drowsy rapids]

Idk why it would be, it's entirely game related if you get support or not. So idk why a developer would support on 1 platform but not another having a different game version at that point.

[deep yarrow]

it even says on the dev side that steering wheels are supported on all platforms

[tender temple]

yeah it should

[tender temple]

What is the better one out of these 2 ?

They are both used ones I can get the Logitech one for around $360

And the Thrustmaater for around $290

[sacred moat]

I think that trustmaster is better quality and stuff

but thats only from what i heard

[sacred moat]

(and the first one is a G920 (case Xbox) (G29 is PS4))

[tender temple]

Thank you

[twilit forum]

whats the best alternative to userbenchmarks?

that has the latest hardware and stuff

[drowsy rapids]

For what purpose specifically?

[twilit forum]

see other benchmarks compared to mine

[drowsy rapids]

Userbenchmark is kinda king there for personal benchmarks except you want to go oc community ish.

[twilit forum]

they dont have ddr5 ram benchmarks sadly

thats why im looking for alternatives

[drowsy rapids]

Well you should look into oc community sites then.

[twilit forum]

alr

[slate niche]

I d like to think PassMark as a good general purpose benchmark

[blissful anvil]

i dont know much about pc parts but what do u guys think i should upgrade first

[ripe mauve]

that depends on your system

[river bronze]

what are your specs

[blissful anvil]

how do i check

this is all i see when i look on system
Processor Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-2600 CPU @ 3.40GHz 3.40 GHz
Installed RAM 8.00 GB

and i know my gpu is nvidia gtx 1030 or sumn like that

basically idk if there is a part that helps with this but is there one that helps with my download speed

because it is very bafd

but im pretty sure its just my wifi

[frosty elk]

Does anyone have recommendations for hot swappable keyboards that are compatible with low profile switches?

[dim osprey]

It is worth a samsung 980 2 tb for gaming ?

[slate niche]

m2 or 2.5 ssd?

[dim osprey]

m2

[slate niche]

gen4 right? more than enough.

i got a 2tb gen4 m2 and i m hardly over 1tb of usage.

[dim osprey]

Solid State Drive (SSD) Samsung 980 1TB, NVMe, M.2.

Some people says that it's ok

others it's meah

others it's great because it's from samsung

idk it seems good from my pov

[slate niche]

did a little more research. The 980 is gen3, the 980 pro is gen4.

the difference is not notable in the naked eye,only on benchmarks. My opinion.. if u have gen4 motherboard/gpu get a gen 4,so u get the full potential of the rig.

if u have a gen3, get the 980 (not the pro)

[dim osprey]

I want to purchase a i9-10900k with 3070 8gb

so I guess the normal one it's more the enough

[blissful anvil]

Yo could someone help me in DMS on about 3 pcs i need help of?

[dim osprey]

in any case, thank you

[drowsy rapids]

Idk how anyone can even dare to say it's just meh lol.

Also between gen 3 and gen 4 there is 0 difference for gaming, until they start to include stuff like directstorage any SSD will be nearly exact same. Because games just don't use much of your drive at all. So even though I can use gen 4, there is no reason for me to get a gen 4 ssd atm, it would have just increased the costs at the time.

[twilit forum]

ssds doesnt affect gaming

just the loading part

[drowsy rapids]

It does affect gaming lol

Try to play CP77 with a Hardrive 😉

[twilit forum]

usually the samsung ones have higher mb/s

[twilit forum]

never said anything about a gpu

lol

[drowsy rapids]

From the moment consoles went away from Harddrives, it's essential to have some type of SSD in your system.

[twilit forum]

like i said ssds are only good for loading applications

[drowsy rapids]

Yes and games is 1 of those.

It will massive decrease loading times and popping with the lastest games.

[twilit forum]

does it include fps increase?

[drowsy rapids]

No one talks about fps.

It doesn't increase fps, even though technically it could but that's a big of a stretch.

You seem to think that fps is the only thing that matters in games.

[twilit forum]

whats the point of a gpu then?

[drowsy rapids]

Having a slow harddrive can introduce other issues away from fps.

Well what is the full name of the GPU ?

[twilit forum]

what if i said a 4090

or a 1660

[drowsy rapids]

That's a type of GPU.

Okay fine

What is the point of a CPU in gaming?

RAM

SSDs

Keyboards

mouse

Monitor

It will all affect your gaming expierence.

[twilit forum]

ah ur that type of guy

ight

[drowsy rapids]

What's the point of having a 4090 if you going to pair it with a 2600x

You will get the same fps as like a 2070 xD

What type of "guy"?

I only explained to you that SSDs will have an effect on gaming, you just think only in fps.

[twilit forum]

fps do care about fps

would u still play a gameboy with only 16 fps now then back in the days?

[drowsy rapids]

Okay what's the point of having 160 fps if your harddrive is causing your PC to skyrocket to 100ms ?

That 100ms will feel like you are playing at about 20 ish fps.

What's the point of having 160 fps with a 60hz monitor that has an input lag of 8ms.

Your entire build has to make sense, else you just way overpay on 1 part that you aren't using xD.

[twilit forum]

my imac has a hard drive

it really doesnt affect the games on it

[drowsy rapids]

It does

And that's if it even has games to begin with.

[twilit forum]

it does

[drowsy rapids]

like 3 % of all games sure.

[twilit forum]

lol no

[drowsy rapids]

Don't take this personally at all, but you shouldn't try to give people advise on what to buy and what to look for xD.

Lol yes, it's the least supported platform in gaming.

Even Linux has better support.

[blissful anvil]

so, that ssd that @dim osprey said it s a good one ?

[drowsy rapids]

Any samsung drive will be good, they are at the top end, isn't hard when only like 5 companies can make them though xD.

Only Toshiba, Samsung, Hynix, Powerchip and Micron (partnership Intel) can "produce" SSDs, the rest is just a different coat in a sense. On other side, it is known that Samsung keeps the best lines to themselves, same thing Intel did.

[frosty elk]

Yeah but you can dual boot and not have that issue

[drowsy rapids]

Then you no longer use a mac OS, a PC can double boot too even in all 3 OSX, Linux and Windows if you really want that for some reason.

Also let not fool ourselves that he is using a very old IMAC, Apple hasn't used HDs in years now xD.

[frosty elk]

For sure but having the Mac isn't the inhibitor when you can dual boot

That's all I was saying

I used to game on my 2015 MacBook pro until I built my pc

Granted mine was refurb updated from eBay with higher specs

[drowsy rapids]

It still kinda is, because you are limited to it's hardware which is also pretty notorious, but also still doesn't change that it's the least supported platform

I get what you mean though xD

[frosty elk]

I miss the first mbp I had where everything wasn't sautered to the custom motherboard 🙄

But where's the profit in that for Apple :p

[drowsy rapids]

A lot of 3rd parties start to do that

Dell has also become very infamous going custom motherboards.

[frosty elk]

🌟 Consumer friendly 🌟

[drowsy rapids]

I remember my very first PC that I actually started to change up, which was a HP pavillion. Back in the day you could open the case and swap out any parts even if it was prebuild.

[frosty elk]

Yeah back in the 90s when it was literally just a case with individual parts

[drowsy rapids]

But ey they figured out going proprietary is more money.

[dim osprey]

Hope so, for a 2000 euro build I can't wrong right ? 🙂 God bless for good

[drowsy rapids]

Pretty much no, 2k for a build is pretty much at the very high end because you can spend 1k to 1.4k to a gpu.

[dim osprey]

I can't find any pieces for a build under 1k in my country so that's a problem :/

[drowsy rapids]

Where do you live?

[dim osprey]

Romania

[swift radish]

Hai noroc ! ❤️

[dim osprey]

Hello 🙂

[drowsy rapids]

Yeah F

[dim osprey]

In any case, thx for the help

[hazy sigil]

Why can't I buy the pro version?

Guys I need help I can't buy the pro version

[tender temple]

I got the Thrustmaster

Anyone have a good Settings for Forza Horizon 4 ? The car rotates all over I can't even go 5 meters 🥲

[drowsy rapids]

Sadly the best answer is: You kinda have to try and test yourself, it's entirely based on your personal "feeling".

Is like asking what the best sensitivity is for your mouse, it's a question no one can answer for you.

[tender temple]

yeah there's too many settings to adjust

[blissful anvil]

if i were to put my pc specs in here could someone tell me what i should put in it to get better performance when playing online as well as how to stop it from stuttering/lagging?

[ripe mauve]

probably

reasons for stutter can vary between games, specifically online it sounds like you're dealing with bad connection

[tender temple]

@blissful anvil it's hard to do anything about lagging

It depends on too many factors

The server you are playing on

Are you using Wifi ? Or fiber optics?

If the PC is lagging just add a SSD

Any SSD would do just fine

The difference is like North Korea and South Korea

[drowsy rapids]

SSD would most likely on the bottom of the list to cause lagging tbh.

[drowsy rapids]

Would be first more useful to know your type of connection, your ping while playing and what game(s).

[tender temple]

No I meant if u are having Slow issues add a SSD

[blissful anvil]

ah i have xfinity wifi and i use the lan cable. i manly play games like monster hunter, dragonball xenoverse 2 and dark souls 3. here is an Overview of my pc specs.
Computer model: Hewlett-Packard HP Compaq Elite 8300 CMT
Operating system: Microsoft Windows 10 Pro (10.0, Build 19044)
Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3470 CPU @ 3.20GHz 4/4
Motherboard: Hewlett-Packard 3396
RAM: 8 GB
Hard disk: TOSHIBA DT01ACA100 (931.5 GB/Fixed hard disk media)
Graphics card: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050 Ti (4 GB)
Monitor: SAN SANYO PDP (1920x1080 / 7.2 Inch)
Sound card1: Realtek High Definition Audio
Sound card2: NVIDIA High Definition Audio
Keyboard1: HID-compliant mouse
Keyboard2: Standard PS/2 Keyboard
Keyboard3: Razer Ornata Chroma
Mice: Microsoft PS/2 Mouse
Audio1: Realtek High Definition Audio
Audio2: NVIDIA High Definition Audio

i'm looking to make this in to some sort of streaming pc or figuring out what sort of stuff i need to build a better one

but thanks for the info that was given already i'm still new to pc gaming

[drowsy rapids]

If you want to turn that into a steaming pc, you have to do a full rebuild. Everything kinda needs an update at that point, so you should figure out a budget and move from there.

[blissful anvil]

so if I buy a ssd, I will have more fps in game ?

[blissful anvil]

using a hdd, you can have latency ?

[drowsy rapids]

Doesn't affect fps in a sense, it could in theory but it will affect other stuff instead.

[blissful anvil]

thanks that's about what i thought do you know if razor coretex makes anything good besides keyboards or what do you recomened i kinda want matching stuff but don't know if that will build a good pc

[blissful anvil]

just the loading I guess

[drowsy rapids]

It can also affect others things, but people think too much that gaming is "just" fps.

Like I have explained before, for example popping can be reduced by going SSD. Also when games start to use directstorage more and more on PC. It will dramatically change the game of HDD vs SSD. Some games already require you even having 1 by default.

[blissful anvil]

I thought that only the CPU, GPU and RAM can do the tricks for a better quality and performance. SSD is for storage and fast loading time.

Maybe you right maybe you don't

thank you for your opinion

[drowsy rapids]

Well CP77 will just refuse to flat out properly work without a SSD.

[blissful anvil]

u mean cyberpunk ?

[drowsy rapids]

And because directstorage is making their way to PC gaming, it's a trick consoles has been using for years. It will require a SSD to work properly.

[blissful anvil]

I played cyberpunk on a SATA III HDD and everything works around 50-60 fps on high

[drowsy rapids]

Not to mention that still you will have way less popping on a SSD than a slow HDD, because the game doesn't require much of your drive atm in most games but a lot are optimised in a way it requires none stop data all the time for textures.

You will have had a lot of texture popping.

[blissful anvil]

oh

[blissful anvil]

No, I didn't that why

[drowsy rapids]

Then you were on low settings most likely.

[blissful anvil]

high setthings

[drowsy rapids]

And even then most likely still had it, but maybe we understand it differently xD

But even CDPR was like, it will technically work on a HDD but just please don't do it...The game doesn't have any loading screens. It requires none stop data, because while you play it basically "loads" the game. So when you have a slow HDD it will cause texture popping or micro stutters. Your CPU and GPU are waiting on the data to be transfered in a sense. They specifically even added a HDD option in the settings menu. Iirc DF has a whole vid about it explaining it better than I can.

You might see that stat properly displayed under latency in afterburner or Nvidia overlay.

[blissful anvil]

the thing is, how it is possible to not have any texture loss when I was playing cyberpunk with my SATA III HDD ?

and can you explain what is ''directstorage'' ?

[drowsy rapids]

The thing is you will have seen it, but might not be able to identify it properly. Like you don't lose textures they just might see more flat or more generic for a bit.

[drowsy rapids]

Bit complicated in short it gets textures directly from your storage device to your gpu vram to render it. Cpu doing much less work here and only gives the orders. Which means the storage speed, ram and gpu vram speed will matter way more than now.

[glad radish]

can we cut this little piece of plastic but not the jors cable not used on the pc to connect the hdd because it attaches with another cable that I can't pull suddenly if I cut the wire it doesn't matter?

[naive rune]

yeah turn the force feedback settings all the way up. and dont turn so hard this is a racing sim not a real car.

[magic vector]

you can cut the plastic thing around it but not the cables inside the mesh where cableds are.

[naive rune]

make sure to also use AWD if you dont plan on drifting. AWD will give you better control over the car. snow tires for the winter season and drag or race tires for spring and summer or autumn. stay off the gas on turns and dont redline in first gear. start slow and shift to 3rd gear then you can hammer the throttle. most cars like the supra and the hellcats can reach 200 mph in 6th gear in about 4 seconds flat so theres a ton of power in those engines and stomping the gas in1st and 2nd gear is what is causing you to spin out

[glad radish]

thx bro

[magic vector]

no problem

[tender temple]

no when i turn a little bit the cars turns like a full rotation and more
i think i fked up the car by tuning it incorrectly 😦
wish i could delete my current profile and start new but the game won't let me

[tender temple]

oh i will try this
thank you ❤️

[naive rune]

oh your 1080 angle

[tender temple]

yes i think i have it at max

[naive rune]

turn it down alot

[tender temple]

should i reduce it ?

oh lol

[naive rune]

yes by a ton

1080 is what i use for drifting high horsepower cars like the hoonicorn or the twerkstallion

[tender temple]

oh i'm still at the very beginning with with the first car

[naive rune]

which one?

use the wemod trainer for credits

[tender temple]

yes i do

[tender temple]

give me a sec i'll send u a pic

[naive rune]

just go into a call with me and share your screen

[tender temple]

Oh I'm on my phone

[naive rune]

ok its an s class your fine then its pretty quick

[tender temple]

I will try your settings thank you ❤️

[smoky shuttle]

@jagged whale Replying here since you posted in the news section. It honestly doesn't make sense to go from 3k to 5k series ryzen. I would wait on the CPU because there are rumors that AMD will announce the 7800, 7900, and 7950 x3D which give a huge boost to gaming performance.

As far as the GPU buy the most expensive thing you can. Yes, nvidia is scummy with their pricing but 4090 is still king for 4k. You get about 15% less FPS with an AMD 7900 XTX but it is also 65% of the cost. I have yet to see a 4090 or 7900xtx in stock. Both cards may require you to upgrade your PSU though.

[jagged whale]

thanks 🙂 what kinda psu do i need for those cards? i've got a 1000w one

[lost dove]

That should be fine

[lost dove]

"65% less" Scalpers:

I might just buy a gigabyte 4080

Tbh

I'd buy a 7900 but

Nvidia is just better w raytracing

But then

I'd have to build a new pc pretty much

Ehhh

I'd have to get a new mobo, cpu

Maybe psu

[tall garden]

i'm looking to upgrade my pc. would i be fine to just upgrade the cpu to a i5-10400f and a new gpu(when i save up for one), or should i look to upgrade mobo as well?

or would the cpu not make a huge difference and i should just focus on getting a new gpu first instead?

[pliant apex]

I have a msi meg ace x570 ace amd with a radon 6800xt gpu. And the post code goes to 98, once then it repeats a run of 35, 40, 41, 42, 43, 44, 46, 47, 48, 60, 62, 64, 98.
Dont know what to do now.

[river bronze]

I'd go for GPU, 3440x1440 on an RX580 seems a bit too much to handle for that card

[lavish kindle]

HI, I have a ryzen 5 5600G and a mainboard B450 aorus M
What GPU can I install? maybe something like 4 gb VRAM?

[sacred jolt]

can anyone gimme a build for around 700 with wifi motherboard

[agile kelp]

Hey all Anyone know a reliable site where I can get Intel benchmark figures please? I am looking to upgrade from an i7 7700K to an I5 12600K and am trying to find out what sort of performance benefit I will see?

[tame fractal]

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-12600K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-7700K/4120vs3647

[magic seal]

does anyone know a good build with a 3060 that isn't too pricey?

[tame fractal]

Yes

[sour mountain]

Recommended Laptop for the recent Sony releases on Steam specifically GOW, days gone, uncharted etc

[drowsy rapids]

Userbenchmark isn't a great source these days, best source you can have is pretty much respected reviewers at this point.

[river bronze]

Ryzen 5600X with a 3060 should be fine and not too expensive

12500K if you prefer intel

[light ridge]

Got around to finally overclocking my 12600kf

5.2 at 1.35v, sa at 1.19. LLC is mode 4 and CLL set to lvl1

[hollow steeple]

I3 12100f is better for around the same price i have it in my build aswell

[tall garden]

Ty!

[dim osprey]

I5-13600KF is a great CPU ?

14 cores and 20 threads hmmm sounds amazing by me

[drowsy rapids]

13th gen is pretty good whatever you pick

Even though prices might not be stable soon.

[glossy skiff]

Hi, i'm just starting with building a setup. I got my pc now, but i'm still seeking for a good starting cpu. I found a refurbished one, but i don't know or its a fine one to start with. It is the Intel Xeon E5-2620 V1 SR0KW 2.00GHz 6 Core CPU Processor.

[tight tree]

Hello, Windows 11 home when I try to run the program, nothing happens. What can I do if the download does not work?

[vagrant lynx]

Do you mean WeMod won't run? If so, I'd put that question in #wemod-support

[tight tree]

yes

what can I do?

[drowsy rapids]

Defo don't go xeon, those are server cpus.

[blissful anvil]

Can I install and play some games on a external hdd ?

[rough field]

sure

[blissful anvil]

Really ? everything will be like a internal hdd or ?

[rough field]

Take a look on YouTube. There should be a tutorial for this. In my opinion it should work.

[blissful anvil]

Ok

ty

[copper spoke]

.

[drowsy rapids]

You can, but defo should think twice about that. Most external HDDs are slower than even internal dedicated ones so keep that in mind.

[blissful anvil]

Oki

[teal pulsar]

this is my pc how can I make it look cool?

[sacred moat]

You can make it look like this:
https://farm6.static.flickr.com/5025/5728853850_a3bbb14083_z.jpg

[teal pulsar]

ohh

[ruby orbit]

What’s better a i5 or a i9 for gaming

[drowsy rapids]

I5 because of its value

[rough field]

Depends on the generation

[gray python]

My motherboard shows red light on cpu after upgrade. Part is compatible and working. No pins are bent and won’t show display.

Have tried:
Remove cmos more 5 min.
Re seated cpu.
Checked connections with cooler

[static warren]

So it works, it just has a red light?

[gray python]

I get no display and red light. It spins to life but nothing else

Have tested ram but it’s not that

[drowsy rapids]

You sure the CPU works with the current bios?

Might have to update your bios first before it will work.

[gray python]

I tried to qflash but nothing happens/it won’t start

So it’s that or something with the motherboard

I’ll try the bios with a different usb

Will give update

[drowsy rapids]

You did wait a while when you did that right?

[gray python]

Yes

I’m trying right now with a different usb stick

Now when I press qflah on motherboard it turned on

[drowsy rapids]

Maybe the other USB wasn't the proper one, you need to use a FAT32 to make it work really.

[gray python]

Maybe

[drowsy rapids]

What board and CPU is it anyway?

[gray python]

Gigabyte z490 aorus pro ax

And i9 11900k

[drowsy rapids]

Yeah might have been the bios, you will know soon enough anyway.

[gray python]

Didn’t work

😭😭😭

Guess I’ll have to take it to a tech shop and pay them to fix it

And now it just turns on and off

[drowsy rapids]

You double checked all cables etc ?

Because just turning on and off, I have seen that happening before where ppl didn't have their CPU cooler properly installed.

So system switched itself off out of safety.

But in 95 % of all cases a PC turning off and then switching itself off rather fast usually means something isn't installed or plugged in properly.

[gray python]

Fixed it, took 3 hours had to take out all the components and then update bios, solved the problem but needed to build everything again and that took 2 hour more.

Worth for that cpu upgrade

🥲

[drowsy rapids]

At least it works now, is most important.

[hollow stag]

im having some issues with my pc i play lots of games that are cpu and ram heavy like escape from tarkov and i recently upgraded my ram to 32 gigs and I didnt see a huge performance boost and i check xmp was on but i realized that my mother board is limited to 2666mhz but my new ram is 3600mhz and i think that is my issue bc i have a i7-9700k with a 2060 super so i think i need to get a new motherboard but dont know what to get and how much i should be spending on a new motherboard

[drowsy rapids]

Start with saying what motherboard you have

Not to mention that RAM might be the part that will have the least amount of impact on gaming especially on an Intel platform, unless you were running like 8GB of RAM or lower.

[hollow stag]

I have B365M IB-R Asrock and I was playing on 16 gigs of ram before i upgraded

[drowsy rapids]

What kind of budget do you have?

[hollow stag]

i dont really have a budget but i dont want to get something overkill

[drowsy rapids]

First ones that come to mind are: ASUS Prime Z390-P LGA1151, GIGABYTE Z390 UD, ASUS TUF Z390-Pro Gaming, GIGABYTE Z390 AORUS PRO Z390. Iirc all of these will support the ram speed you have and are between 150 and 200. Idk what's overkill for you or not, because in that time having that high of a ram speed and a cheap board (while now all out of production) becomes a hard choice.

[still vessel]

Ive got a budget of 1.3k any pc recommendations?

pre built or custom parts idm

[smoky shuttle]

Is this for PC only or for PC, monitors, etc?

[still vessel]

oh pc and monitor etc

[smoky shuttle]

Hmm that definitely makes things harder. Why types of games are you wanting to play and what settings?

[still vessel]

tbh not rlly high end games

mainly minecraft roblox maybe valorant

thats it

@smoky shuttle hdwisjdn thx

oh and also nba2k

23

👌👌

[ruby orbit]

What would be the best processor? For gaming

[sacred moat]

Uhh, AMD Ryzen 9 7950X3D
I guess

[deep yarrow]

Does anyone know where you can buy a flight hotas cheaper than in the store

[sacred moat]

Yep, you can buy it refurbished.
My best website for this is BackMarket.
I made you a sorting: https://www.backmarket.com/en-us/l/video-games-accessories/183df16e-a920-4f22-b408-d3d2d3087168#brand=99 Thrustmaster&brand=99 Logitech

[ruby orbit]

Ok

[deep yarrow]

Maybe i should have told you i live in europe and those prices are higher than new here xp

New retail price logitech g x56 pro is €234 24months warranty

[drowsy rapids]

5800X3D or the 7600 or the 13600k.

[smoky shuttle]

Or wait ~20 days for the new x3d processors

[drowsy rapids]

Most likely won't beat the current ones xD

If you really want best of the best and want to pay the money for it, nothing can touch the 13900k.

[sacred meteor]

Yes, it's very good for benchmarking all computer Hardware.

[crimson forge]

What’s the minimum price to switch from intel to amd, I’ve already got 300 readily available but im certain I need at least 400 more

well, minimum is not worth it

Average price

[drifting blade]

Anyone know about how to update bios

[sacred moat]

Which model?

[drifting blade]

Pretty sure it’s a ASRock Z390 Phantom Gaming 4S

[drowsy rapids]

Between 500 and 1000 depend what and how.

[drowsy rapids]

https://youtu.be/5gW4CivUqQM

[crimson forge]

All I need is the chip and the motherboard, and I do need to make sure that it is compatible with what I have sonfar

I only need to redownload bios if I’m swapping out storage, right? Not if I’m just adding some more?

[drowsy rapids]

Then you just need to buy a CPU and a board while having to make sure you buy a DDR4 board.

Which will be around the 500 bracket then depending which CPU you buy.

Like if you go zen 3, then it's even lower, if you want the newest line up then yeah...

Like a 5600x is only 180 ish iirc, a board about 150/250ish depending what you all need.

[drowsy rapids]

Just use a local technician, usually still cheaper and better than a pre build. You can just buy the parts and bring it to them or let them buy the parts too.

[drifting blade]

I finally got my bios updated it was very confusing bc this motherboard is from ibuypower so I had to get the bios update from them

[drowsy rapids]

They using proprietary boards?

[light ridge]

Anyone ever use kingston impact ddr4 sodimm ram for their laptop?

[crimson forge]

I want ddr4 so bad but I have no money for it

I want imbedded router

I want my pc to double as its own router

[dim osprey]

ASRock Z690 Pro Rs is a great motherboard ?

[dim osprey]

And great with I5-13600KF ?

[smoky mulch]

i have a computer with a I7 6700 series and wondering how to tell if i can swap it out for something better? the pc was store bought through Best Buy

[sacred moat]

I think that 6700 is kinda old gen, but what is the GPU?

[smoky mulch]

GPU is a Nvidia GTX 970 MSI

but yes it is old school cpu bought 4 years ago

[sacred moat]

This GPU was released 9 years ago :/

It dont look that bad

[smoky mulch]

yes the pc was a gift from my parents to run fallout 4 with mods in mind

but i want to create a a game in the open world crafting survival type genre and need better pc or better parts

[sacred moat]

ye, you would need better pc for that x)

[smoky mulch]

gpu's r pretty cheap i dont need anything new and expensive

im more worried bout the cpu

[sacred moat]

For what I saw, the GPU is gud, while the CPU kinda bad for nowadays specs :/

[smoky mulch]

i tried using the Unreal Engine 5.0 the cpu could not do the job

[sacred moat]

You saw that in task manager?

[smoky mulch]

lol no the cpu could not render in objects like grass and the ground you walk on with in a timely manner loll

[sacred moat]

Try again with task manager open so you will really see what is the problem 😄

[smoky mulch]

so would my memory come into play as well?

[sacred moat]

ye

How many do u have?

[smoky mulch]

i think 8 gb?

1 stick

[sacred moat]

wow

[smoky mulch]

yup

[sacred moat]

thats very low

[smoky mulch]

it old

ye

[sacred moat]

you should probably upgrade that first

[smoky mulch]

hmmmm ty

[spiral prawn]

The gameplay depends on the quality of your hardware like RAM, CPU and GPU and also the SSD is an important hardware in your PC as it is faster than a Hard Disk

SSD is mostly used for games and for the operating system

Hard Disk is mostly used for documents and other things

[dim osprey]

Someone ?

[dim osprey]

.

[smoky shuttle]

It is ok

Nothing special

[final kernel]

What are these two cables for??

[light ridge]

Well that molex is for old ass tech

The other, would have to know where the cable leads

And a better picture of the connector

Molex is often used with ancient drives

[final kernel]

Damn

[final kernel]

Thanks

[light ridge]

You're welcome

[terse ferry]

smaller 1 is for 2.5 floppy driive and larger is for 3.5 IDE drive as stated for older tech

[drifting blade]

idk my motherboard is a Z390 Phantom Gaming 4S-IB and that -IB means ibuypower and had to get bios from them

[light ridge]

It's an oem board it seems. However, from what I've read, the only difference is the IB comes with wifi. But the bios does come from IB which is why I'd never buy a pc from them

[drowsy rapids]

Interesting, so basically it isn't but also it is. It has normal connections etc and looks like a normal board without any weird going on, but yet is still locked behind IB software and probs some "cutting costs".

[light ridge]

well generally they remove like extra connectors for cost cutting, it seems like they actually spent money putting wifi on this board ironically

[drowsy rapids]

Tbf what kind of wifi is it? If it's some cheap module then it isn't worth much.

[light ridge]

Oh im sure its a cheap m.2 like intel or something

[drowsy rapids]

Oh it's a slotted module, they add it themselves. So basically they buy a perfectly fine asrock board, put a M2 wifi card in it and install their own bios on it.

[light ridge]

exactly

instead of just buying a wifi board

[drowsy rapids]

That's a way of doing things, wonder how much they can gain out of it financial wise.

[light ridge]

well every wifi that goes down, they have to buy from IB

[drowsy rapids]

because Asrock still has to make those bios updates for them, isn't something they can do themselves.

[light ridge]

or a whole new board

Yeah so this is actually how its done

at least for nvidia and AiBs

they AiBs actually make the bios, then they upload it to nvidia and nvidia has to approve it

Im assuming it would be the standard really in things like this

just instead of AiBs, OEMs

[drowsy rapids]

It's smart but also dumb, at the end you still get an inferior board imo. At the same time though that board can be used for everything too, because it has standard connections so it's way more valuable than literally everyone else. (of the big prebuild shareholders)

[light ridge]

Well generally

SIs which are custom prebuilt makers

they will just rebrand the product to them, not change hardware pieces

like Xidax for example rebrands the g.skill ripjawvs as their own

not changing parts on it

some do the same for mobos and others

[drowsy rapids]

Sure, but there is plenty of corporations which go out of their way to go proprietary in their boards.

[light ridge]

however companies like IB, CP, HP, Dell and others

Do proprietary on a hard level

CP been trying to mess around gpu connectors

[drowsy rapids]

Which is genius financially, but so bad for everyone involved.

[light ridge]

and its been causing a lot of issues

[drowsy rapids]

Well yeah what do they expect lol

[light ridge]

Ive had to tell at least 5 CP owners to order new cables from cablemod

instantly fixed issue

[drowsy rapids]

What do they even try to do with them

You can't just randomly change a power connector that easily.

[light ridge]

idk, using cheap ones they can oem and piecing shit together, idk

or using very poor psus

with shit cables

[drowsy rapids]

Most likely the last one tbh

[light ridge]

yup, thanks why there is like 1 maybe 2 SIs I can adequately rec

[still vessel]

CASE
KEDIERS PC Case - ATX Tower Tempered Glass Gaming Computer Case with 9 ARGB Fans,C590
MOTHERBOARD
CVN B560M GAMING FROZEN V20 motherboard LGA 1200 usb2.0 sata3 reg memory ecc support and xeon processor E5-2670 2690CPU 4ddr3
RAM
Asgard Valkyrie V5 Series DDR4 RAM PC Memory 8GBx2 3200MHz 3600MHz RGB RAM Polar White
COOLING FANS
Coolmoon 120mm 5V ARGB Cooling Fan Mute PC Computer Case Cooler With IR Remote Heat sink PWM RGB Radiator For Gamer Cabinet Fans
PWER SPPLY
LIAN LI 750W Power Supply ITX SFX PSU Gold Medal Full Module For Computer Mini ITX Case Power Supply Power Desktop SP750
CPU COOLER
HX6200D Radiator 6 Heatpipes CPU Cooler Fan for Intel LGA 1700 1200 115X AMD AM4
CPU
AMD Ryzen 5 5600 R5 5600 3.5 GHz Six-Core Twelve-Thread CPU Processor 7NM 65W L3=32M 100-000000927 Socket AM4
GPU
RTX 3060 ti YESTON Sakura custom gpu design 3 fans

im planning on getting thesd parts

any suggestions or mprovemnts?

budget is 1.5k

[sacred moat]

Hello, the thing that can be better is the RAM. You should try to take 16x2 (so it make 32), same frequency (so dual ram optimisation thing work when you put it on slot 1&3 or 2&4)

[drowsy rapids]

The cooler is pretty bad, you could get more RAM however it's so easy to add an extra kit of RAM. 16GB should still be fine for now. You should also think about getting another PSU, the Lian Li SP750 reputation isn't that great. There are much better and more reliable units in the same price range.

[blissful anvil]

any good?

^ £700 £900

[drowsy rapids]

I can already tell you it's lying

[blissful anvil]

https://tenor.com/view/elmo-shrug-i-dunno-gif-10999546

[drowsy rapids]

That system won't achieve 200 fps in every game not even at 1080p.

[blissful anvil]

fairs

[drowsy rapids]

As a base system if you have nothing at all, it isn't bad at all though. Like upgrade that CPU + ram and you have a pretty nice system on your hands.

[blissful anvil]

this is my specs atm

[drowsy rapids]

How do you have 24GB of RAM?

Sounds like a prebuild.

[blissful anvil]

yes

[drowsy rapids]

HP?

[blissful anvil]

im not good with shortened words lmao