#Still no cross-progression.

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brisk geode
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okay mate im sure they will add ur cross progress

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anything else u wanna say to yourself to cope?

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ur basically having a convo w urself at this point

analog blade
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Oh am I, okay. Sounds like you have no defense. I donā€™t think theyā€™ll add it, all Im saying is we can show our lack of support for that. You have no defense and left instead of responding. There is no way you think Iā€™m talking with myself. Have a nice day, I donā€™t know why you seek to argue with others but Iā€™d advise some self reflection.

brisk geode
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i seek to argue with people? okay bud i said my peice on one message and you all started reeeing back at me lmao

analog blade
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5 messages, 2 of which are large paragraphs. You were trying to make fun of us, hence the laughing emoji.

brisk geode
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it was 3 messages and 2 consited of 3 lines idk how thats a paragraph and im sorry it was 3 messages i thought the dumbassery was over then i kept reading and it just got funnier and funnier

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u have a lovely day now b u seem v busy protesting so i wont take up more of your time

river blade
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šŸ¤¦

dark pond
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"ok bud"

analog blade
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Ok budchivchad

raw vortex
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Aint no votekick system here to yeet out bratty kids?

brisk geode
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your just mad i disrupted your echo chamber this is a post for discussion i voiced my opinion like a normal person and you decide to personally attack me because it doesent align with your views?

raw vortex
brisk geode
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you all say i seek to argue with you but i simply wished to voice an opinion and you all decided to personally attack me because i disagree with your view point.

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ofc u dont thats why u resorted to petty insults

raw vortex
brisk geode
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v mature thank you for validating my point have a great day circle jerking eachother into agreement

raw vortex
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Tell us when you are done so the rest can continue with the healthy and respectful conversation we had before your disruption. Thank you

indigo bolt
# brisk geode v mature thank you for validating my point have a great day circle jerking eacho...

I'm not sure you have basic reading comprehension given the multiple times I've essentially said that anything "productive" would need significant bankrolling out of spite even with heavily inflated numbers and the part where the dude who talked with a lawyer corroborated basically that.

It could also be that you're the type of individual without principles. I'm in this thread not because I had the game on Epic first, but because I wanted to keep track of promises made and then promises not fulfilled, and this was a promise made yet not fulfilled which doesn't seem to have sufficient justification as to the technical difficulty short of utter, fundamental, and total incompetence given our knowledge of the relevant backend tooling in use, Playfab.

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they already created mechanisms which could be reused for token claiming, and playfab has its own merging capabilities

brisk geode
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so essentially they have the tools in place

indigo bolt
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the result was unsurprising considering Torn Banner has been doing the same shit for 3 games straight

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it's just sad that torn banner never improves

brisk geode
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i cant teach a horse new tricks

indigo bolt
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the rot is from the top. That's the only bit which hasn't been replaced.

brisk geode
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u*

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maybe by the 3rd game they will have their shit together

indigo bolt
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this is the third game

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chiv 1, mirage, chiv 2

brisk geode
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2 games and a mod

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wtf is mirage

indigo bolt
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it's a game torn banner delisted because they flopped the game so hard that they want to pretend it never happened

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they fucked that game harder than hi-rez fucked tribes

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it's not even on their website anymore and was delisted from steam

brisk geode
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god damn

indigo bolt
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they've let timelines slip so hard and consistently failed promises to such an extent that believing torn banner will be better on their next game is like asking a girl why she thinks getting back together with the ex who "quit alcohol" 3 times and keeps threatening to go to the convenience store for milk is a good idea

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torn banner has only taken action to earn further distrust with every game they've released, and their behavior in chiv 2 has been actually worsening compared to chiv 1 even if it's not quite as futile as mirage

brisk geode
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so basically the ppl on this thread already know TB wont do the right thing and they just hear to validate themselfs sat in an echo chamber of agreement

indigo bolt
# brisk geode so basically the ppl on this thread already know TB wont do the right thing and ...

no, the people in this thread want to give TB every chance to do the right thing and expect them not to, and want to make sure that if they don't that it's obvious, as public as is reasonable given we're in a discord which is inherently only a small segment of the base, yet at the same time is disproportionately a more valuable segment of the playerbase(the core base) which would otherwise be the promoters for their next game and for chiv 2 itself, and thus as damaging as is appropriate to Torn Banner for their own inappropriate actions.

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which is why the stridah video happened as well, as Torn Banner can only hang themselves on their own rope here.

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this is one of those complaints which only exist because Torn Banner themselves created the complaint

dusky moss
# brisk geode so basically the ppl on this thread already know TB wont do the right thing and ...

Not everyone here has bought the first 2 games so you gotta remember that. Some people are new to TB games so they dont know their back ground when it comes to false promises. For the people that do know TB reputation, then its their own fault for trusting them a 3rd time. Same thing will happen if TB comes out with Chiv 3, more people will get scammed for something they promised and the same people that have been scammed wont learn their lesson, thinking they will change but wont.

analog blade
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And thinking it will be fixed in a new game is dumb

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Until we take action, they wonā€™t change.

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So waiting is assuring the fate of a new game.

river blade
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The only thing i know is i'm not going to waste one more euro in any TB game

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NEVER

alpine arrow
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So I just poke my head into a wall of text that can be summarized to "your fault for buying on Epic" because dying to terrible balance and archer spam for a year is totally worth being loyal to to Steam

blazing fjord
crisp sequoia
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Um, so caaan I move my EGS progress to steam yet?

blazing fjord
crisp sequoia
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Aww

blazing fjord
cinder basin
brisk geode
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Can you still get a refund if youā€™ve played 100+ hours of the game and got value out of your purchase

indigo bolt
analog blade
dark pond
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better community, runs faster, and functional achievements are pretty common points

brisk geode
brisk geode
cinder basin
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This would be a funny lawlsuit. Just hope the courtroom has strong enough chairs šŸ³

analog blade
dark pond
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There's also a subset of people who think EGS is spyware but I doubt it

analog blade
lyric sleet
alpine arrow
brisk geode
lyric sleet
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Chiv 1 had mod support and even cash competitions for content

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We have been let down in this regard in chiv 2 so far.

brisk geode
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like they wouldnt even need to worry about producing a lot of content if we had full mod support

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the community would do it all

lyric sleet
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Console support and multi platform(egs steam gamepass) probably didn't help

real harness
crisp sequoia
indigo bolt
cinder basin
alpine arrow
crystal moon
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And this is why companies get away with this shit.

crystal moon
dusky moss
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Bump

cinder basin
alpine arrow
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I think Epic got lucky with Chiv2 all things considered

cinder basin
alpine arrow
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It's more of Epic wanting a monopoly themselves due to their anticompetitive approach to running a store

cinder basin
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What amount of credit does Steam take for contributing to the recent trend of games just being shittier overall, by taking 30% of the revenue from the developers?

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It's just weird that everyones always complaining about "Developer greed" and "TB Fanboys" while blindly turning an eye to how crazy greedy steam is, and they would suck Gabe Newell through a straw given the chance.

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Epic games takes a 12% Cut, and paid them to be there. Kind of a no-brainer from a business standpoint if it happened to blow up there, which arguably it did.

alpine arrow
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Most people expect Epic Games to implement the basic features that were taken for granted with Steam. Though on a more personal note, I'd rather they fund PC ports of games that are only planned for consoles.

Chiv2 on Epic worked because the Steam counterpart is worse than installing the Epic Games Launcher

cinder basin
lyric sleet
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I am biased though I'm like steam user #1925

alpine arrow
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I'm not a fan of Epic myself, but my tastes in gaming make it hard to be loyal to Steam

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I still think that Kingdom Hearts being EGS exclusive is a necessary evil

indigo bolt
# cinder basin It's just weird that everyones always complaining about "Developer greed" and "T...

Devs to a large degree also prefer that people purchase on Steam rather than Epic or Itch even if they release on both platforms because Steam has a legitimately strong discovery algorithm. Get a lot of purchases? Game gets served to a lot of people, huge opportunity. Hit 50 reviews to achieve the threshold which enables "Overwhelmingly Positive"? Massive breakpoint again.

Games are capable of going viral on Steam, and that's because Valve has actually done a good job with the design of the store. They also maintain download infrastructure better than consoles with paid online, multiplayer infrastructure in the form of Steamworks which is top notch, and, most importantly, don't swing their monopoly around.

Steam has so much market power that if Valve didn't compete purely on being a superior experience for all parties they'd have the FTC digging so deep into Steam that it comes out the topside in moments.

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they could probably go to a 20% share without too much issue, maybe less, but Steam does offer more than any other platform which takes a similar cut in an actual sense

cinder basin
indigo bolt
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it's mostly in the more competitive genres where people are actually better off releasing on steam and getting surfaced through word of mouth by reaching out to communities known to pick up niche games and spread them around like with cool puzzle games such as https://store.steampowered.com/app/653020/Lumins_and_Shades/ for example

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icy helm
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RIP Cross-Progression

blazing fjord
icy helm
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Itā€™s time

blazing fjord
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Yh

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Connect, you have my blessing

late flax
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Bump

prime nebula
lyric sleet
steep ibex
crystal moon
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Sadly, yes. I still believe we have the right to be upset, Torn banner handed this horribly...they aren't going to keep their word and nothing is going to be done about it, no in or out of game compensation to help remedy...nothing.
I've...we've been fighting for this for about a year and a half.

It's over....we lost.

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dusky moss
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BUMP

analog blade
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Itā€™s been good lads, I wish you all the best.

crisp sequoia
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Though we rot and wither away, the spirit of rebellion continues on

dusky moss
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Bump

pulsar egret
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It doesnā€™t matter anymore šŸ˜”