But never had the money
#code-talk
barren quarry
Idk
summer bobcat
ffs "military licensing issues"
barren quarry
You know how many cocks project aces has to suck to put in all those dozens of real life jets in their games
They list all of those licenses on the loading screen
summer bobcat
the ace combat games?
barren quarry
Yes
summer bobcat
trying to find a picture of it now
summer bobcat
Yeah well it is the defense industries' IP, to their credit
You think they had to pay a lot for licensing cost as well?
kind glacier
barren quarry
its funny how they never ask Sukhoi or any other russian companies
summer bobcat
Wonder if maybe they could reduce that cost to zero by just making up their own jet names
barren quarry
Yeah thats what Project Wingman does
summer bobcat
and if the designs look familiar? oh gee um well
barren quarry
and also cs 1.6 did that too
summer bobcat
change wing span length
kind glacier
like calling the FAMAS the FR 5.56 smh
summer bobcat
its funny how they never ask Sukhoi or any other russian companies
maybe they factored in the cost of a potential lawsuit from them and was like fuck it, not worth the trouble
lunar cobalt
They don't ask russian companies because they're based in Russia and already have permission
barren quarry
project aces is a part of namco which is japanese
barren quarry
yeah i know about gaijin
kind glacier
They're only in Cyprus to evade taxes
barren quarry
vague otter
pure sierra
i play the current spin off of the ruse engine/empire, steel division 2
kind glacier
I tried to buy Steel Division 2
Well I did, installed it, spent 2 minutes seeing that the US was shoddy DLC and immediately requested a refund
pure sierra
server update
pure sierra
screenshot of how the collies were cheating with the mht
bronze rain
nice
shell widget
kind glacier
"Wait, it's all trial and error?"
"Always has been"
Never been big on documentation
silk frost
This looks net good luck with the border glitch?
kind glacier
?
silk frost
To me it looks like the border of the map is overlapping with with the molds I could be wrong
I don’t know much about what your doing but it looks really cool
silk frost
Oh I’m sorry I don’t know a lot about this stuff but kudos to you for doing it
paper lake
@kind glacier so cooool!!!! Tell me how i can get this :P
neat fossil
No
pure sierra
so hows this, my post showing screenshot of collies cheating with MHT was pulled off reddit because it got popular and involves discussion of cheating !!!
halcyon zinc
If they’re fixing vechicle exploits they gonna fix the 40mm on barges
warm lintel
@pure sierra Where's your post about Warden veterans discovering and using the FOV exploit for two years before it became mainstream and the developers removed it, and, as Stranger Days would term it; taking pride in the matter. Or you know, how both teams taught newbies ways to exploit rocks to climb to gain a better advantage, the refinery glitch, or other backhanded manners of gameplay?
Look we can dwell on these things and try to muckrake for them; but at the end of the day it's just human ingenuity going outside the bounds of a fixed system. It's not reprehensible and it's not criminal; it just needs to be remedied with a hot fix.
For what it's worth I agree MHT balancing acts are unfair; but keep in mind people on both sides have been doing this with artillery for the past two years.
royal glade
@kind glacier looks very cool.
barren quarry
this is our sanctuary where we discuss coding
do not dare desecrate it with foxhole drama
i didn't go here to vent when we lost 5 wars in a row due to silverhand having no counter
and you shouldn't either
kind glacier
Silverhand go brrrr
https://i.imgur.com/fxqWzJE.mp4
silk frost
You spin me right round right round like a record baby
@kind glacier are you going to make the hole map 3D at some point?
stone void
I have seen Warden SH ops, and that is exactly how they start and end
royal glade
I'd like to see just the town icons become 3d but the map remain 2d. Else it gets cluttered and you will have to start solving how to display units on a 3d graded surface
(in response to hunter)
kind glacier
While not impossible, I'd need 3d models of the buildings for that
royal glade
@kind glacier What files do you use for the 3d models? Like the file extension.
I'm not a 3d modeller by any stretch but I could probably make a placeholder. Or better yet, the devs might give you the 3d models for the townhalls/world structures.
kind glacier
@royal glade #code-talk message
barren quarry
@zealous sonnet Region zones don't follow the voronoi diagrams anymore? This point is clearly closer to the relic base than to the town hall
and these are the region zones i generated using the voronoi diagrams
Reaching trail still mostly matches though
Callahan's passage is wacky on the west side too
The rest of the maps seem to be a near perfect match
the only issues seem to be with stonecradle and callahans passage
long raft
you are probably using the wrong seed points
if youre using the dynamic list, it probably is the ones from the static, or vice versa
i recall there being some minor difference in precision
omg what if they were using elevation 
royal glade
@kind glacier . Neat! Are the 3d files .stl?
languid harness
Perhaps they have done it on porpose, as I feel the original Calahan passage makes more sense with the angle of the region border
If you look closely, you see the subregion borders allign with the northwest scatered rock formation and the center east zigzag slope road
For reaching trail, they did it based on that you shouldnt be able to capture the west most subregion if you captured the second-from-south subregion (bypassing the capital subregion)
Stonecradle idk, maybe better visiblity?
barren quarry
@long raft holy shit you're probably right
region zones are bound to text labels
ahhhh it makes perfect sense now
kind glacier
<@154635167980322816> . Neat! Are the 3d files .stl?
.fbx
languid harness
region zones are bound to text labels
Wait, you are saying the text labels are a seperate object from the structures?
barren quarry
@languid harness they have always been
each map has two endpoints, one for dynamic data and one for static
the dynamic endpoint contains icons and the static contains labels
and the labels are divided into major and minor
kind glacier
secretly a little disappointed only public information is accessible
But I understand why
pure sierra
@barren quarry interesting
blazing agate
A big suprize is cooming
steep surge
@void marlin 
hardy mauve
Wait, this games models are .FBX? I think half life alyx uses FBX...
long raft
isn't FBX like the game standard now and for the last decade?
that format was taking over like 15 years ago even
lunar cobalt
It's autodesk proprietary
hardy mauve
I mean, I'm used to source and their MDL's.
But either or, I could do VR-tours of all the tank models!
open ravine
Question: is there a collection of fullscale images of both the whole map and the tiles?
the repo with the tiled versions doesnt really help me in any ways
long raft
usually one of us puts it together
barren quarry
i sent it to him already
long raft
has it changed significantly? recently?
barren quarry
@long raft imagine godcrofts being an apple and someone took a bite
and also bulwark got moved
goldenroot got reintroduced?
long raft
crap ... i ... i dont think im going to redraw roads
i think im done with that project lol
barren quarry
i was going to see if i could use image recognition to do it automatically
but they didnt update the sat maps
long raft
you cant even use human eyeballs to do it
barren quarry
the sat maps had the roads in bright orange
long raft
plus the road tiers havent been visible since that devbranch, so youd have to go see them in person
i was under the impression we could extract the sat maps from the assets, but i guess not anymore
barren quarry
yes we can
long raft
someone said they werent there anymore
barren quarry
they're just from the previous update for some reason
long raft
oh
well i dont feel like the devs help us much, i appreciate the github being updated but we get more and more locked out to the data and world every month
think im done, will save the project if i ever try to go to work for garmin
barren quarry
thank you for your service
long raft
has anyone ever done a pull request on the warapi repository?
long raft
like if i added the map and the leaflet tiles... and did a pull request
barren quarry
this was the only pull request
@long raft these days i update the tiles pretty much on the night they come out
long raft
do you post them?
barren quarry
i have a script that combines the region images
and then i cut them with your thing
and then i update the repo
yeah i did
long raft
that tile slicer is ... hmm its fast, works fine until you get REALLY big images
i need to rebuild it to use a better image library, gdiplus is weak sauce with huge images
barren quarry
oh and then i run another script that just compresses all images in a folder
long raft
it basically shits the bed when the image is 4x-8x larger, like if you have double resolution
barren quarry
decreases tile size by like 44%
long raft
ok pull request, but i dont expect it to be merged
long raft
decreases tile size by like 44%
are you still doing the quantizing?
barren quarry
the what?
barren quarry
import imageminPngquant from 'imagemin-pngquant';
export default async function() {
const files = await imagemin(['minify/*.{jpg,png}'], {
destination: 'minified',
plugins: [
imageminPngquant({
quality: [0.6, 0.8]
})
]
});
console.log(files);
}```doesnt png use 32bit?
barren quarry
this is the entirety of the script
long raft
png also supports 8 bit and 16 bit pixel formats that are indexed, like gifs
open ravine
and 1bit
long raft
i suppose
barren quarry
i just press the magic button and it does everything
long raft
i opted for webp, no loss in colors and better compression
i imagine many image programs are not good at quantizing
it can be really complicated
ive got the world map at about 9 megs lossless
open ravine
9mb?
barren quarry
9mb is really good
long raft
yea
open ravine
does it have a reverse function?
long raft
hmm no i ... never imagined id need that
i couldnt find a tiler program, and when i finally found one it would choke on the image size or it took hours and hours
or it was some linux script that had 10 dependencies
long raft
i used kastow's math/coords for placing the images in my stitching script tho
kastow figured out all the distances and sizes and placements
yea i think i could do better than 9mb if i didn't use lossless
barren quarry
long raft
but this is 32 bit color lossless
barren quarry
basically these couple of lines of text are the reason storm cannons work in this game
long raft
the browsers do not load webp very fast tho, png seems to render faster
barren quarry
with these numbers i could figure out the size of everything
the rest is just basic math
long raft
its basic math ... if youre a programmer. also times 23 maps
its not basic math for normal people
it uses irrational numbers, kastow!
barren quarry
sqrt 3
long raft
barren quarry
dude i went to uni when i was 16
long raft
i was busy repeating algebra for the 3rd time
barren quarry
i almost dropped out several times in the first years of uni due to physics and math
it was harsh
long raft
some of the math classes can be back breakers
physics tended to be relatively easy math i thought tho
i still dont know the difference between weak and strong induction (math)
barren quarry
the only thing i remember from the uni math is if you have 0/0 you can find a differential and it will be ok
l hospital rule or something it was called
long raft
yea i think thats also american high school math too, weirdly
barren quarry
when we had differential equations my brain just fucking melted like the blood from Alien
through the floor
and never came back
long raft
hah yea those were interesting
barren quarry
the third year of uni was much easier
long raft
we have a course called discrete math here that is a real brain melter. and also optimization
barren quarry
yo man discrete math is actually useful when writing ifs
long raft
sure but it was like 10 different math disciplines crammed together
too big of a scope for a single course, in my opinion
barren quarry
for us discrete math was the first semester of uni where we had shit like A u B ^ C
long raft
and linear algebra probably the most important thing in computer science also has way too much content in it
barren quarry
and like things 20x bigger than that
long raft
ah in my course boolean algebra was only a small 1 week part of discrete math
where the computer nerds got to take a break because it was easy for us
open ravine
fuck, i got an old version of the Tempest Island Hex
long raft
how they were slightly off?
barren quarry
yes
so basically
when you're drawing region zones on canvas its easy
because you can just clip the image
but with leaflet you can't do that because its polygon coordinates
long raft
oh yea... you have to intersect a square and all the polygons of the voronoi, pain in the ass
barren quarry
i had to fucking manually write the spaghetti code to calculate the intersections between the polygon lines and the hex
pure sierra
you can just clip it with a hexxagon poly
long raft
heh ... kastow...
you cannot imagine what i did for the roads
i did end up scripting the same thing, where the roads cross borders
open ravine
gotta make due with a screenshot then
long raft
i use gdal command line tools for it
most of the time i was able to get away with nearest point calculations tho
but holy crap, gdal is your friend! seriously. for geospatial scripting its a godsend
barren quarry
@long raft is it used for anything besides marking roads?
long raft
no, i just wanted a message that indicated when you were about to cross a region
or do you mean gdal specifically?
barren quarry
gdal specifically
long raft
oh its just ... a big library for spatial calculations and format conversions and stuff
barren quarry
also this color palette for the roads can fuck off thank you very much
long raft
part of what it can do is shape intersections
exotic steppe
Old school maps were great from a view-ability standpoint, too bad they were literally hand drawn. Also LOL @ resource amounts back then
That img will be 2 years old in about 16 days
open ravine
reminds me of my first two wars - we were just three people, each took a truck, grabbed a sledge and we drove in circles between resources points
i did a route of 3 comp yards (we were techmining)
warm lintel
I miss Dullahans, that was one of my favorite legacy city’s to fight over
Along with Loftmire and Sunhallow
mild kernel
it doesn't compile but the code works typescript just stupid https://github.com/pizzafox/foxhole-ts
barren quarry
@mild kernel mistake here
mild kernel
wrong
barren quarry
teams are as follows: NONE, WARDENS, COLONIALS
mild kernel
hehe
that file should be totally compliant with the api spec
and then i do some (opinionated) transformations which is what your screenshot is
mild kernel
ya
barren quarry
no one here except me uses typescript though lmao
mild kernel
it uses ky-universal which runs on node and browser
so in theory you could make a website or something idk
barren quarry
dont know that either
barren quarry
i use fetch and xhr
barren quarry
ok so here's why i use xhr and no one else does
client connects to the backend via socket
it wants live map updates
and by live i mean within 3 seconds of the event
so every 3 seconds a service makes a request to the api
but we don't want to pull the data if nothing changed
only xhr allows you to check etags on readystate and abort requests
mild kernel
bro websockets exist
rtc
http push
so many modern ways to do this
btw i made docs https://foxhole-ts.netlify.app/
barren quarry
i just couldn't find any other way
barren quarry
we need to get the info from api in almost real time but we want to save up traffic
mild kernel
you should totally rewrite it to use a proper realtime communication protocol
requires server code though
mild kernel
all i do is write javascript
mild kernel
foxhole war api except openapi 3 https://github.com/pizzafox/foxhole-oas/blob/main/openapi.yml
also with broken autogenerated markdown docs
kind glacier
stone void
Me after my code doesn’t work for three hours with no sign of stopping
coral sundial
Id post a selfie with the same captition
barren quarry
Me when you recheck everything and after 3 hours you find out you have been summing up numbers as strings
coral sundial
Me when you ask your project group to to make a simple plate to attach an endstop to and they come to the meeting with cube thats burned, molten and ridden with holes
Me when you ask your project group to come with a rotary encoder and it they code the logic inverse to the point is always true
Me when you ask your project group to make the documentation but one of them doesnt even work and the rest is incompetent
languid harness
Me when I see C#
gilded torrent
coral sundial
This is my problem turtle
Who makes a wirin diagram like that AND puts it in the final document to be graded
lunar cobalt
@coral sundial light it on fire and start over?
lime kestrel
cursed
pure sierra
blursed
coral sundial
Roger roger
languid harness
do ppl talk in code
read pins
barren quarry
this is our sacred nerd cave
long raft
we're gonna have to burn sage and get this place re-blessed now that a non-coder came in
languid harness
I shall bless it with my Lua buggy code
this code for some reason refuses to return p
languid harness
we're gonna have to burn sage and get this place re-blessed now that a non-coder...
satisfied?
left sable
At first I thought this was gonna be like Navajo code talk, but this is just as good
pure sierra
apache is quite popular here 😜
long raft
@timber onyx c++ has stuff like exceptions, specific casts (reinterpret_cast<int> instead of (int)), classes, inheritance, templates, a completely different runtime and set of libraries
timber onyx
yeah but didnt C++ just start by being C with one extra thing
long raft
you can really get yourself into deep trouble with c++, make completely unreadable code with insane operator overloads and stuff
no it really had quite a bit extra, but was backwards compatible
people think theyre doing c++ but theyre really using a lot of the C subset
for example, if you do a C style cast of a variable like
int x = (int)5.0; this is C, not C++
C++ would say you need to use one of the specific 4 cast types
things like exception handling completely changes code flow
i had to really train myself not to use sloppy C techniques
and template are like an entire language themselves, they go deep
timber onyx
C is sloppy? the one time i had to actually work with pure C i felt like i was doing machine language from how specific i had to be
long raft
just look at the difference in a hello world program, in c++ the important line is
cout << "test";
which is basically uninterpretable if you dont understand what its doing
like ... do you even know how that works, as a C programmer?
timber onyx
holy shit i dont
long raft
they usurped the left shift operator to do something COMPLETELY different
a stream class is the first argument, a string is the second, it returns a stream class
so you can daisy chain them up
so even a hello world program in c++ makes no sense to a beginner
they just follow the example and have no idea what its doing
c# wont even let you do that kind of confusing nonsense
they only let you overload basic math operators
ffs in c++ you can overload the equals (assign) operator
can you imagine how confusing your code becomes if equals doesnt mean equals anymore??
long raft
good god C++ is a huge language
the compilers for them are so much more sophisticated than C
when java and c# were designed they were like holy shit remove that noise
timber onyx
so who is C++ made for
long raft
i mean it can do pretty much anything C can
but you can hurt yourself with it
its a real power tool
analogous to a planer
easy way to lose a finger...
C code is verbose, but very readable.
and c# is basically java done right
timber onyx
lmao
long raft
im generally able to take C code and convert it to c# without much issue, sometimes theres some tricky stuff
i cant say the same for c++
timber onyx
alright so i guess im a C fan
long raft
i feel every pc programmer should know C and javascript
i will probably need to add python to that list in a decade
what languages were you expected to learn or be exposed to disk?
timber onyx
mainly C with extra steps
long raft
no exotic languages?
timber onyx
but since everything uses javascript i gotta learn how to interact with it
whats an exotic language to you
long raft
i think my courses included C, c++, Java, Javascript, PHP, lisp (clisp or haskel), prolog, various assemblies
i think something outside the imperative languages are exotic, like F# or lisp or prolog
i deeply hated prolog
timber onyx
well like i've told you i work mainly with hardware interface
long raft
yea my schooling is definitely more on the software side, but i feel like i got a lot of hardware stuff
timber onyx
and im pretty sure the language that's best for simple short limited memory stuff is C
long raft
yeah, or assembly
long raft
yea most popular languages let you do some sort of inline assembly
generally not recommended
timber onyx
how come?
timber onyx
yeah it does require a lot of remembering what is what
long raft
a lot of optimizations are not intuitive
as a quick example, when i was young, everybody did xor ax, ax to set ax to 0
instead of mov ax, 0
because it was faster...
how are you supposed to know that shit
timber onyx
lmao
long raft
and now its totally irrelevant
timber onyx
makes me think of specifying your int type
long raft
int as in integer or interrupt?
timber onyx
integer
like instead of putting int on everything you do that doesnt require float you actually use short, long, unsigned
long raft
oh
yah float is slow
i mean ... float is for saving space, in fact
if you dont care about space use double
timber onyx
i like how arduino does its data types
long raft
hows that?
timber onyx
if you want an unsigned 8 bit integer you just type uint8_t
pretty simple
in fact i like arduino a lot
makes everything easy
actually wait now that i look it up uint8_t isnt specifically for arduino
long raft
i mean thats ... pretty generic
hungarian notation
ubyte would be the same thing, no?
timber onyx
god you can tell i havent coded in a while
long raft
its a custom definition, like ...
#define uint8_t unsigned byte
i personally like to use the reserved keywords in the language for my variables, i find it more readable than hungarian notation
timber onyx
meh, that's how my teachers do it so i do it the same
long raft
i like to take things apart
actually i guess thats not ... specifically hungarian notation
but in a lot of C code you see typedefs used to make new primitives, ive always hated it
they do it for portability
long raft
its not really ... defining it like a struct
its more just renaming it, or making another name for it
timber onyx
ah
long raft
have you seen union?
where you can have 2 names for the same value
so you can treat the same variable as an int or a float
timber onyx
yeah i guess it would be pretty catastrophic if you could accidentally increase the value of an integer by 1 and you suddenly overload your computer
also no i dont think i have seen union
but that sounds pretty damn useful
timber onyx
as in making C# work with other code or just straight up rewritting a different language?
long raft
in general im doing it with c# but yea, outside of c++ you cant get support for union
you just have to use pointers or other tricks
i think its a weird functionality to have
C programmers abuse it to minimize space, they can avoid having 2 variables sometimes
timber onyx
also i just learned that arduino IDE is made in java
seems funny to write something in java that's made to work with C/C++
long raft
it takes so much longer to write something in c/c++ and keep it up to date and avoid bugs
it really feels like using nails instead of screws
potent panther
off the rails slot machine
gives drivers something to do while they deliver goods
languid harness
yo dawg, I heard you like gaming, so I made a game to play while you game
coral sundial
Does anyone here know how to sample a sine wave and get 8 bit values?
I am trying to create a sine wave for a buzzer
The only thing I have so far is a pwm signal
languid harness
Create array, span a sine wave, multiply values to 2⁸, set to integer, cry because it is prolly broken and I have no idea what your set-up is
But to serioisly anser your question: there are many methods and packages in every programming language to turn to bit editors. You can then sample a standard sinewave using a math funtion by gradually chancing the angle every step, convert the value directly into an 8bit signal, and send it on its way
magic lichen
rare crow
Hey, has anyone create a python (or other) module to wrap the war API?
barren quarry
@rare crow someone here did a while ago
Most of us have been working with the api for like 2.5 years so we know how it works, but there is a module yes
I think it's in js
rare crow
Cool I'll do a python wrapper anyway as I can't find one
mild kernel
Cool I'll do a python wrapper anyway as I can't find one
you can use my openapi 3 spec (https://github.com/pizzafox/foxhole-oas) to generate a python library (several options available here https://openapi-generator.tech/)
here is this remotely usable
rare crow
Yeah that's useful, thanks!
rare crow
For the feed, am I right in thinking you just cache the map data and poll for changes?
coral sundial
mfw I have been looking at my serial plotter for hours. asking myself why it doesnt plot a sine wave
mfw I realize the sine wave its plotting isnt continious
I copied faulty code from the interwebs 😠
That looks alot more like static noise
As opposed to this junk
long raft
did you implement your own sin function or something?
coral sundial
I implemented a DDS
with sine lookup table
initially copied from my book. but it did a weird thing where the table wasnt continious in 0. but mirrored on the vertical axis
long raft
do you just have to modulo x by 2pi?
coral sundial
no its a lookup table
long raft
how is a table supposed to be continuous?
coral sundial
well if its table that supposed to have a full sine wave stored in it. and its mirrored vertically around 0. it isnt a continious function
coral sundial
you can see it in the first picture. to the left.
long raft
is it too slow to use a taylor series to generate sin values on the fly?
coral sundial
mmh. I dont think thats pretty math heavy as well.
I totally did not fail my math test about derivatives
long raft
its not calculus, but yea it has a lot of division ...
coral sundial
According to my book. I am already pushing the hardware quite far
long raft
yea wasnt sure how strong the hardware was
coral sundial
is that the modem tone?
long raft
what
you dont know what dial tone is?
is it called something else abroad?
its the hum when you pick up a landline phone
i think its an A + G notes
an arpegio ...
coral sundial
Well ive got a hum
long raft
i wonder if they are different frequencies in other countries 
coral sundial
long raft
sure looks right - can you hear it?
long raft
and dial tone doesnt immediately fill you with feelings?
coral sundial
I am 22 and a social leave me alone
long raft
maybe test it with just 440hz then, until that sounds like an A
maybe you have to divide by 2pi =p
coral sundial
{
OCR2B = (mixer + 128)>>1;
DDS1.accumulator += DDS1.accumulator_steps;
DDS1.step = (DDS1.accumulator >>8);
DDS1.pwmvalue = sine_wave[DDS1.step];
DDS2.accumulator += DDS2.accumulator_steps;
DDS2.step = (DDS2.accumulator >>8);
DDS2.pwmvalue = sine_wave[DDS2.step];
mixer = (DDS1.pwmvalue + DDS2.pwmvalue) >> 1;
}```like dds1.accumulator * 2pi maybe
coral sundial
I only have 2 values I can adjust. the mixer and accumulator step
and the accumulator is 440 and 350 respectivly
long raft
hmm
coral sundial
but I can try
long raft
like how do you translate frequency to the accumulator value ...
im guessing it goes 0-1 but really represents 0-pi
long raft
/ 256? so ... its 0-256 range?
coral sundial
yes
long raft
can it ever be 256?
ah thats why its continuous, never gets to 1.0
soo ... sometimes the frequency is not just ... a number
like 440
coral sundial
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}; ```its the ratio of frequency to sample rate
so if your frequency is 22050 and your sample rate is 41000 then maybe its a value of .5 (or 128)
because the frequency is always relative to the sample rate
coral sundial
wait how did you deduce that out of my code?
long raft
its a guess
coral sundial
because I am relatively sure m is the accumulator but I have no clue to be honest
long raft
ive done audio stuff
coral sundial
I am quite happy it works
long raft
like when it comes to filters, theres a frequency cutoff, its always a floating point between 0-1, relative to the sample rate
and it should never be more than .5 because thats ... distorted otherwise
nyquist frequency and whatnot
long raft
no dyno is just lame
coral sundial
440 * 16000000 / 256 = 27500000
what is your sample rate?
long raft
how many samples are you spitting out per second?
long raft
i see 9600 as custom bitrate?
i assume that means 1200 sample rate? because 8 bits per byte, and your samples are 1 byte?
frequency should be 0-.5, not some huge number i would think
i really dont know how the accumulator works tho
long raft
if your sample rate is 1200, then i would expect frequency to be 256*(440/1200) / 256
just no idea how it works tho
coral sundial
A really low accumulator results in a very slow ticking noise though
long raft
i would assume in your case the frequency is a byte value between 0 and 128
if you set it to 128, and your sample rate really is 1200, then youd hear a tone about 600hz
or set it to 94 to get 440hz roughly
not very precise tho
coral sundial
well you have to consider how fast my pwm signal gets updated.
that is on the overflow vector. my overflow vector gets triggered roughly every 0.000016 seconds
long raft
could it be a 62500 sample rate?
coral sundial
so every time that happens. the next value is loaded in. and the accumalator advances a cycle
coral sundial
is that alot?
long raft
nah
long raft
i mean its not a lot for audio, maybe for other signal types its a lot
coral sundial
probably without a filter even
long raft
phones have a sample rate of maybe ... 11000 or so, that allows them to play frequencies 0-5500
the max frequency you can play is 1/2 the sample rate
coral sundial
Yes. but ive yet to figure out how to produce an actual sound with it
other than noise 1 plus noise 2 xD
long raft
yah gotta figure out how to specify the frequency
coral sundial
well according to the formula I posted earlier. it would be simply a matter of changing it to take requested frequency as a formula. and output an accumulator value.
frequecy of the CPU
long raft
so (freq / Fcpu) * 256 where (freq/Fcpu) is 0-1 value
coral sundial
yes, problem is I am working with integers only
long raft
right
so maybe it really is the raw frequency value then
so when you put freq = 440 you should hear https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xGXYFJmvIvk
coral sundial
values lower than 1 would result in dividing the output frequency
thats the same noise my phone makes. but my arduino makes a completly different noise
I wonder what happens if I do fill in a small value
I am not sure wether it will cut off the value and multiply by 0
ah
it just breaks
long raft
just frequency 0 (from rounding integers) probably yields nothing
but 440 works? and it plays a tone?
coral sundial
yes
everything above 1 plays a tone
and it scales as well. 1 is low frequency low pitch tone. and larger values produce higher frequences and tones
long raft
but its not playing the 440 hz tone correctly?
long raft
how does it look visually?
coral sundial
you want the datasheet?
long raft
yah kind of curious if it looks like a 440 hz sin wave
i find myself wondering, maybe it needs to be scaled by PI
maybe its roughly 3 times lower frequency than expected
coral sundial
long raft
or what if the sin table is in degrees not radians
long raft
easy tests, multiple the frequency by 3, then try multiplying it by 180
see if either one gets closer
long raft
hmm
so maybe the sin table was calculated in radians then
i dunno how youd multiply it by pi when youre dealing with integers
multiply by 22 divide by 7 i guess?
coral sundial
3 is also pretty high but more louder
it doesnt produce a nice a sound
it really does sound like the right frequency but the pitch is all wrong
its way higher than you hear in the video
long raft
louder? wow
its clipping then
its makign the value larger than 255 and its cutting it off
coral sundial
by book tells me at an f_cpu of 8mhz, an accumulator of 880 is roughly 440hz
I run at double the speed of that
long raft
does it work when you test with 880? interesting.
long raft
holy crap
coral sundial
there is something wrong
long raft
yeah
coral sundial
I can add a prescaler to the timer
divide it by 8
or doubles of that
I made a fire alarm lmao
oh that just makes it sound higher
I have frequency generator on my phone. and it sounds weird but I do get the idea that its on the same frequency. but the tune is way higher
long raft
it shouldnt be higher if its the same frequency
coral sundial
I mean, hop on voice and maybe you can judge the sound better than me
I am tone deaf xD
oh its filtering out the noise
noooo
long raft
ive got no mic hooked up
coral sundial
you only need to listen
long raft
but if it doesnt sound the same to you its ... for sure not
coral sundial
I think its filtering out the noise
long raft
ok i can hear
coral sundial
hear anuthing?
long raft
its not really playing across well
filtered maybe, i dunno
some light chirps is all
lol buzz noises
yea thats ... thats not right
my guess is its way higher frequency
coral sundial
yeah. well according to the formula it is something like 22khz
long raft
like higher than the sample rate, so its getting decimated
it shouldnt buzz
it has an insanely high sample rate tho
if its really 8mhz
usually audio sample rates are in the khz
long raft
does it generate the sin lookup table when it starts? or is it pre programmed?
coral sundial
pre programmed
coral sundial
yes
but its pretty heavy for a microcontroller
all standard math.h functions are available
I have code that barks dogs
The following I have deduced
there is a sample timer updating the registers
instead of it running on PWM timer
this might work way better
the register that updates the buzzer signal is always update at the start of a pwm phase
if I update the register at a sample rate
which can be defined with another timer
long raft
if it were me, id run a test using C's sin function just to make sure where the problem was, to make sure the hardware can output the 440hz tone
long raft
still not a sin wave
coral sundial
what does it mean when a programmer does #define sample_rate 8000UL
specifically the UL
long raft
i mean i ... i guess it could be... maybe
its weird the peaks arent present, it makes me think the sample rate is too low for this frequency
long raft
that looks ....a lot closer
coral sundial
its still scrambled
long raft
yah it looks like several signals
coral sundial
I have the feeling the serial port is interfering
but I Cant figure out how becuase the signal doesnt improve when its commented out
and the graph worsens when I communicate faster
what are the things that can cause interferance? ive got a wireless mouse nearby
a speak thats has power but not plugged in
and a phone
what why how
I keep increasing the sample rate by a factor of 10
coral sundial
long raft
heh it seems like you need a better example of how to do sin that is easier to use
coral sundial
I am going to download the barking dogs demo
see if it works
I am starting to think either my arduino is broken or the board is flawed
fuck you dino
I am going to wire up my own buzzer tommorow
god
languid harness
What I see here is that sometimes, the signal jumps
Like it sometimes looks like at random sometimes data gets multiplied by -1
If you look on the left, you see that the first rising wall is most likely only one datapoint change
Very interestting
long raft
if you think your device is broken, try with actual sin function
i suspect its the algorithm
because visually its wrong too...
pure sierra
@long raft
do you know any other event logs active than mine ?
some peeps reporting missing flips but not sure if problem my end or api end
long raft
uhhh ... is ... is there a bot kastow makes that logs events?
i dont know that anyone is logging it tho
pure sierra
@zealous sonnet
Do you guys keep an event log history anywhere ?
even just internally
as there have been several reports of events either not being reported by the API or by my site/system, and im trying to work out which is at fault
pure sierra
@zealous sonnet ok , it seems @barren quarry does so i will comprae with him first
pure sierra
so yeah @zealous sonnet it would seem possibly the api did not update/change correctly
@barren quarry confirmed there was no event in his log for wardens taking this town in question, which a player sayes was held by wardens for about 10mins
skelter in ob
day 270
exotic steppe
also Viper Pit and Reaching Trail have been experiencing temporal anomalies recently:
pure sierra
@exotic steppe thanks
exotic steppe
yw
if I wanted wierd time stuff in an online game thats why I play Star Trek Online
lel
rare crow
In case this helps anyone, a python wrapper for the war API I'm putting together: https://github.com/JonnyPtn/foxholewar
using it for a discord bot
rare crow
Also adding tests as I go along, so can be used for continuous testing of the API
rare crow
@pure sierra I'll be sticking the data into a database for an event log so in future could be used to cross-check against yours. Out of curiousity how often do you poll? I see the dynamic map data can update every 3 seconds so that seems like a reasonable interval?
rare crow
report data says it may update every 3 seconds by as far as I can tell it only changes every ~10 mins?
rare crow
e.g. for last hour:
void marlin
I have a cron running every minute to pull new stats. did i just miss one do you guys have the same hole? Version 190/191 are missing...
long raft
@zealous sonnet please oh please can we get weather data in the warapi
zealous sonnet
that'd be awesome, but I can't see it ever happening for this update, we're simply too busy
long raft
understandable
languid harness
f
kind glacier
kind glacier
I have no idea whether the stuff near the top is supposed to be an error or just a debug
kind glacier
a whole host of stuff I've not encountered in the editor
long raft
which is weird cause i see collection was modified
so youre editing a collection while you loop on it
this is a no-no
easy to fix by putting a .ToList() in your foreach
kind glacier
you say easy, but I get the feeling that'll just fuck it up more
kind glacier
I'll certainly try, the internet sure as shit isn't being helpful
I fixed that one already
long raft
i suspect you have a pattern that looks like...
foreach(var x in Y)
if(...)
Y.Remove(x);
item with the same key ... thats a dictionary adding the same item twice
maybe this is just ... something related to where your content is loaded from, like a path problem
or resources that arent being included in your build
what are the lines around API.cs:457?
kind glacier
what are the lines around API.cs:457?
a mess, I'd imagine
looking back, it's a lot of quick n dirty
long raft
lol has the code changed since build? why does the stacktrace report a line thats blank?
kind glacier
it's true I have a whole bunch of for eaches
But what I find mysterious is why these errors are not coming up in the editor
when I run the whole thing, anyway
kind glacier
Haven't really touched any of this after I got the API to draw the laebls and icons on the map for me
long raft
its ok to modify a collection that you are not looping on
thats why .ToList() is a nice trick because it makes a copy of the collection
actually i dunno if it makes a list copy if its already a list
.ToArray() always works too
or you can build a separate list of records to add/delete
you know my guess is that getDynamicP.mapItems is an empty array
so mapItems[0] is crashing it
kind glacier
long raft
any way you can verify the content in DPinfo in the version outside the editor?
i suspect its blank
kind glacier
any way you can verify the content in DPinfo in the version outside the editor?
maybe?
long raft
my guess is youre trying to query an empty region?
kind glacier
Considering not all regions are being used right now, that's entirely possible
long raft
if(getDynamicP.mapItems!=null && getDynamicP.mapItems.Count()>0)
foreach(var i in getDynamicP.mapItems)
...
should be an easy trial run
it doesn't break the editor playtest at least
still there
I'll try the ToList tomorrow
It's getting late, or rather, early
What's interesting is that the API still works exactly like in the editor
No missing names or icons at first glance
other than the UI being out of whack, but I pretty much expected that to be the case
long raft
you were expecting it to fail outside the editor? im confused
neat fossil
..._.....-..... . .
kind glacier
@long raft So I got around to adding ToList to every single foreach loop, and it seems like all the errors in the console are gone
so thanks for that :)
long raft
Glad it worked
kind glacier
lol
pure sierra
kind glacier
tfw you accidentally make third person
...how
Technically not a massive problem, as said cylinder should be turned off when you use the map
When I do tackle this problem I should check if it doesn't secretly move when turned off. Don't want to go sleepwalking when you use the map
summer bobcat
10/10 would not recommend freezing my work laptop for 13 minutes for shits and giggles
long raft
Hmm I've got a dell with 1.5TB ram that probably wouldn't even gag
long raft
Maybe with compression I could find that much storage on a machine oof
kind glacier
now the player stays in place when you use the map
summer bobcat
summer bobcat
Hmm I've got a dell with 1.5TB ram that probably wouldn't even gag
wtf my goodness
kind glacier
summer bobcat
Colonial and warden forces in disarray after sudden blizzard hits
kind glacier
Also have a fancy new bug which might just be specific to the editor
@summer bobcat tank warfare after the colonials get the falchion be like
summer bobcat
yooo nice models man
kind glacier
you gotta thank @glad whale for those
He offered to make more, but that's the second to last step with this project
summer bobcat
I can't get past the
kind glacier
Don't let the bed bugs bite
royal glade
Dont the foxhole player models come in t pose?
kind glacier
they do, but I don't have those
kind glacier
Well, I've got something of a working build, but unsure on how or where to share it
kind glacier
I dunno, a google drive link could work, but am I allowed to post it in this server?
coral sundial
Yes i think sir pinned something like that?
kind glacier
Okay, so here goes. I'm sharing what I assume is a playable version. This link should let you download the folder called 'Run1' (I know, creative). I assume you need the whole folder, and if you run the exe in the folder it should work.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1okWpZE1x5XAWlfcQt_H9QKDTc5P9GCJI?usp=sharing
A few notes:
- The resolution is locked at a windowed 1280x720, so those with a 1080p monitor like normal people are gonna have a smaller window.
- There is no saving. Anything placed down will be gone when you close and relaunch it.
- I shouldn't have to tell you it's gonna be buggy and not work like you want it to. It might even flat out break, though it's been working for me so far.
- I'm sharing it as-is. It's for those interested to play around with.
@keen wedge
I don't have a video to showcase what you can do.
Do I post a comment link in #foxhole-creative or what?
long raft
make a zip file
its way too many files and folders to individually download with drive
long raft
that FOV is pretty intense, timber
i feel like i would like it wider
sorry uhh the opposite
narrower
have you tried building the webasm version yet?
long raft
yah the map looks wide the room looks like a long hallway
its not the resolution or the aspect ratio, its the camera's field of view, its really wide
kind glacier
80 isn't wide
long raft
they have a webgl compilation that will compile to web assembly
and run in the browser
yea 80 seems very wide to me
kind glacier
to me, anything less than 80 feels like having binocs strapped to your face all the time
seeing the world through a peephole
long raft
it should be like 60...
kind glacier
oof, at 60 I'd actually trip over stuff if I could
long raft
60 is pretty normal for games
people raise it higher because they want to see peripherally more
but it does give a warped feeling compared to what a normal view would look like in real life
for example, human fov is maybe ... 135? but if youre looking through a screen that would be like a third of your FOV
kind glacier
at 60 I can barely see ahead of me as it is
lunar cobalt
Humans have a 120 degree FOV
long raft
right but your screen does not take up your entire FOV
and you are essentially looking through the screen like a window
kind glacier
and that window is too tiny to actually see anything most of the time
lunar cobalt
Yes, but if that window is on a small FOV it feels like you're in a tunnel
lunar cobalt
Looks good to me
kind glacier
guess for the next demo, if I remember to write it down that is, I'll add a slider or something for people to fix it themselves
long raft
did you run it?
lunar cobalt
Yes
long raft
so im just crazy?
kind glacier
though what's the benefit of running this in browser
long raft
though what's the benefit of running this in browser
no downloading it, no need for running binaries on my computer or virus scans
runs on all architectures
so i could theoretically open it on my phone
kind glacier
I guess? Though I'd need to check if that does multiplayer as well
long raft
theres ... websockets
kind glacier
lunar cobalt
Yea, my antivirus just got annoyed at your program
lunar cobalt
.dll files from an unsigned source make it unhappy
kind glacier
the build settings does have a WebGL option, so I'll see what that does
though don't you have to host those somewhere?
kind glacier
🤔 been too long since I last actually used github for real, though I did make a repo already
long raft
well you can set "github pages" in the settings to a specific branch (or primary/master) and it will automatically host the files on a website
and you can even redirect a domain name to it
thats how im hosting logiwaze.com
long raft
used to need their special unity web player before they added the webgl build
kind glacier
followed the steps and all I get is a 404
Note: It can take up to 20 minutes for changes to your site to publish after you push the changes to GitHub.
ok
long raft
its a little tricky yea it takes a minute
cant complain about free high quality hosting tho
timber are you planning on making a game server for this?
kind glacier
@long raft eyy, it works now. Also probably, if I want multiplayer, which is pretty much the whole point of this endeavor. I haven't looked at how yet, but dedicated is not going to be it.
https://realtimericky.github.io/
though it looks stuck loading the last 10%
long raft
hard to do a server without being dedicated, no?
im getting 404 error
you need to set it up to default to index.html
kind glacier
yeah, I'm trying a different build to see if that one doesn't hang on 90%
kind glacier
it did for me
long raft
maybe ctrl f5 your browser, i dunno
kind glacier
Yeah, this one works