#WHY is Cresendo not on quest 2?????
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Even the devs so just go port it yourself, thats how lazy they are
Dont be hard on the devs they have a lot of stuff to do.
Mhm…
what
How can a whole company make a game that is barely optimized
They had four plus years to optimize the game for the q2, look where that went
crescendo is not on quest pro
vr is wayyy more intensive to run tho
no it doesn’t lol it has a more advanced xr2 chip
why are people talking like they’re hardware experts here
the devs literally made rr run on a fucking mobile phone chip
what is optimisation if that’s not
If it's running in screenmode then it isn't running 3D, which is the problem, Quest 2 needs to run 3d, which takes a lot of GPU.
The snapdragon cpu can't handle Crescendo, and the RRS argument is ruined as in quests the rooms are all in the same room, with RRS I don't know if you can enable and disable rooms, if you can't that would be more lag, and they would need subrooms, then nothing is loaded in.
Its not
If it dont work then its not optimized
your brain isn’t working
how do we optimise it
And q2 rec room does not work
Make actual servers
Rec Room doesnt have servers
Yup
Rec Room has a networking called peer to peer
Which is the alternative of servers
that has absolutely nothing to do with optimisation wtf
are you actually dumb or what
Do you know what peer to peer means
connection only fucks with the ping but never the fps
This has everything tp do with optimization
please refrain from talking if you don’t know what you’re talking about
having good servers won’t suddenly make your hardware better
you’re giving me a fucking headache jesus
please just stop
Thats not what im saying
What im saying is that one headset is acting like a server for everyone
Just listen please
no shit im not listening to a 12 years old telling me why connection fucks with optimisation
with absolutely no source backing them up as well
If they used servers more of the processing would happen on the server, not the headsets.
I do
One of Rec Rooms old qna said they use peer to peer
Sercers however likely wouldn't solve much.
no shit sherlock that processing wont make your device suddenly unable to play something
And then the devs had saidtheir working in making servers but idl about that
if it can’t run shit it still wont run shit after hosting a server
if it can run shit then it can still run shit after hosting a server
it’s literally that simple
hardware limitations are limitations
They actually would, peer to peer networking just sucks, it would fix lag, afk bug, maybe invincibility bug (maybe if they dont mess up)
oh my god why are you still going on
Because this is a real problem
Yes, however it wouldn't help enough to get Crescendo working.
^^^^
Honestly maybe because then it would run externally through a server than someones shitty headset
As nice as it would be it just won't work.
They stated that the game itself mostly works, howver it's the Garden of Sorrow that is the issue.
Its their lazy
They did look into finding a way to optimize it, but if it was still laggy they won't release it.
peer to peer’s only disadvantage is that people might get higher ping and the host, only the fucking host, might get the tiniest bit of performance downgrades
Did they really…
tell me a single reason why would they not try to optimise crescendo if they could
laziness?
money is way more important
That's what they said, if it's true we'll never really know, however they would only need to lower texture quality, particle count, and model quality.
have you ever imagined how much more playercount they can get if they manage to optimise crescendo
Capitalism
bro what
are you actually 12
capitalism gives them more of a reason to optimise the game
assuming it’s even possible
How would crescendo increase the player count
I wonder if I could convince some with RRS to port Crescendo in to Quest 2, just to prove it wouldn't work.
which makes the game 144p
a lot of quest 2 players already left the game and the addition of crescendo in quest 2 can potentially bring them back
and make them stay
if they’re that lazy
rec room would have fucking died years ago
average 7 year old crying on the discord not knowing how hardware works
Then the money happened
"Add support back to Quest 1, and give it Isles. WAAAA!"
why are all those 9 year olds acting as if they’re experts
and decide to blame everything on optimisation
they literally cannot fucking realise how demanding running vr is
They watched a Youtube tutorial on optimization.
"give quest 2 crescendo!!!1! it will work with ray tracing the devs are just lazy!!1!"
and they can’t realise quest 2 runs on a fucking mobile chip
The quest is just a big samsung stuck to your face
it’s a technological miracle the chip can run vr on higher than 144p
and more than 10 fps
this just proves you dont know how it works
arm chip =/= samsung
Samsung uses Android, nothing that uses Android has Crescendo support.
i think you can play crescendo on some android devices
“optimisation issue, they’re just lazy”
No, it's Apple only.
ah ok
i tried crescendo on my phone but i kept dying cuz the controls suck
im literally getting performance issues in crescendo with a 3060 and 12th gen i5
i have effectively zero idea how can optimisation make crescendo run on a quest 2
the only way to make quest 2 run crescendo is by massive downgrading but not optimising
"My PS5 can run Crescendo with better graphics, and lighting, so clearly Quest 2 can run Crescendo"
rr itself is already massively downgraded and optimised to even run on quest 2
pcvr rec room trying to work properly challenge impossible
They can probably get it to run if they have more optimization that Bonelab, but the question is if it would run well.
it’d be pcvr users talking about optimisation before quest 2
the only solution to quest 2 now is downgrading
Yeah, as Quest 2 works, it works well, especially for the price.
But its already heavily downgraded
which literally proves how weak the hardware is
Yep
yet you’re still arguing as if you can still squeeze anything out of that chip
They'll add it once you hack your game to play Crescendo, and prove every level runs perfectly.
cant wait for quest 3 tho
Higher resolution
trust they will have crescendo on it
i couldnt imagine the backlash if they didnt
No im talking about other games with higher resolution
i don't expect crescendo on launch though
you can only have high resolution after you’ve already made the game run
Imagine Red Matter 2 if they do update it
can we ping a mod and kill this thread
so people like you won’t come here anymore and cry about crescendo
they're 100% updating it to look good on quest 3
they did so with quest pro almost immediately
My laptop can't run minecraft but the quest 2 can-
I already said my laptop has FAR worse hardware than a quest 2
That doesn't mean VR doesn't take moe GPU than a flat screen game.
Also that has 120 optimization mods, and is still laggy.
"cry about crescendo" yeah you sound like you've never had the quest 2 rec room experience, hope the quest 3 gets crescendo
also isn't that what this is for tho?
just scrolled up but yeah you sounded either mad or just aggressive, it's the one thing and it's one thing quest 2 users want
but its impossible to add 
it’s never coming to quest pointless whining about it
youd be surprised
If you really want to play crescendo without wires but you have a good pc, just use VD or ALXR or Air Link or one of the other 300 vr streaming services
Crescendo 
Descendo
Decrescendo*
YESS
most people who talks here are strictly quest 2 standalone users
Bro, to answer ur question, quest standalone can't process dat much data and not lag
Please fut the Shuck up Crescendo will never be on quest 2
oh my god it just came out on the quest 2
I can confirm that my Quest 2 has Exploded while playing Crescendo and now I'm in the hospital
Mine Is fine, skill issue
interesting
why
Why what?
why do you think that after those performance increases it still won't run
Think of it as an MS-DOS computer, increase it's performance by 50% still can't run any game, wouldn't be able to run Mario64.
makes no sense
quest 2's problem with crescendo is performance not outdated hardware
It was an example, but if you think it'll work so perfectly get someone with RRS to prove it.
it can but devs lazy + optimization issues + older quest2 will run out of memory
my headset runs out of memory a lot
Yes, the devs are lazy since they won't do something they can't do.
the "devs lazy" reason is somewhat caused by "optimization issues" and with the recent performance increases it could help with that
this game is falling apart bc devs lazy
true
just protest or somethin idk
can we just kill this thread already they aint adding it 🗣️🙏
I wonder how long Meta will consider keeping the q2 support up, since the q1 support ended pretty quickly
Imagine if they pull an AAA move and release a new headset every 2 years and end support on the older ones
tomorrow
what about quest 3, also i'm sure if a dev said something about crescendo coming to quest 2 and 3 than this would not be a thread anymore but until then, it stands, unlike echo vr
they might use that as a excuse for why crescendo isn't on the quest 2
"just upgrade to the quest 3 when it comes out"
i dont see it ever coming to quest 2 this thread needs to die fr fr 🗣️🙏
they just need to say something about it
and people will be at ease
they need to say it isnt coming to quest 2 tbh
Im pretty sure they did several times lol
and have the reason make sense and hard to argue against
did they now?
then why are people still asking?!?1??!
when did they say something?
They probably didnt see it or listen
the fact that it literally cant run it should be enough tbh
when did they say something about it? and what is it that they said
same reason why isle wasnt on quest 1
probably could do something but we don't know and the one guy who says they said something isn't saying when they said something and what they said
literally have 0 clue when
I think thwy said it like 1-2 ago, a bit after the quest 2 released
well what did they say, no wonder i don't remember, i wasn't even on the discord and i don't think i watched any rec room youtube videos bro how was i supposed to know this
what did they say
what did they say
They said that crescendo isnt on Q2 for the same reason why rec royale wasnt on Q1: the Q2 isnt powerdul enough to run crescendo on standalond
ah
they said that they might try to port crescendo to the quest 2 again after they're done with rec room studio
i cant wait for the quest 3 tho tbh
Wait when?
im gonna get it as my first vr headset fr fr
i mean i can see crescendo running on quest but like really dumbed down tho
if they port it to quest dont expect it to look good
nothing looks good on the quest 2 anyways
i dont really know all too much of what the visuals are like for myself but i imagine they are similar to mobile rec room
yup but worse
also i can play crescendo on my phone 
but my phone is like a lot powerfuller
like nearly 3 times i think?
and it also doesn't run vr
Yea same :)) i hate how uncomfortable the quest 2 is, and the color passthrough is gonna be nice too
I might sell my quest 2 for the quest 3 :D
true tbf
im gonna sell off everything i own for the quest 7 🤑
but imagine the future of standalone though
like imagine a headset with the amd z1
(the soc used in the rog ally)
thoughts on this
That might be enough to get a stripped down version of crescendo running well
yeah
The Quest 3 will still be better, since they claim that its gonna be 2x more powerful than the quest 2
because apparently garden of sorrow was "a bit too much" for the quest 2 which is the main reason why it isn't on the quest 2 rn
Thats that one room from Gribbly that essentially a cemetary for pets, right?
no the crescendo act
Oh, i was thinking of ^GratefulGardens
Would be cool
memory and ram are two different things, and optimisation is not some thing thatll make anything magically be able to run anything.
also heres an example: my toaster is good at making toast but it cant run rec room, could optimisation fix that?
unfortunately the quest 2 is not a toaster
it can be if you try hard enough
yes but usually the quest 2 is a device that is capable of running something like crescendo
unless they made it look like old school runescape i dont see it running
thats a hyperbole before you guys attack me
My guess is that Cresendo is being saved for the Mac Vision Pro, since it runs on iPhones and not android phones, basically confirming that it works on apple mobile hardware.
of course it will be on the vision pro on screen mode since it is unlikely it natively runs rec room vr
but it will run the ipad version so good luck with the terrible controls
The Vision doesnt have controllers
Also you would really spend 3k on a headset
I think that's not as big a barrier as we might think, because both Apple and RR are heavily integrated with Unity, and Unity abstracts away controller inputs, which could be custom written by Apple, sort of like SteamVR controller emulation
Apple would also likely make their own controller and have no other controller support ( i mean vr controllers as xbox and playstation controllers do work)
They did show an apple controller in the part where the person games.
What kind i kinda like watched 3/4 of the headset showcase then got bored
Unbranded, it just showed that you could use a controller to play games. I don't remember precisely if they said that it has any controller support, but I believe they did.
Ik their is xbox and playstation controller support
But thats for flat screen games
Citation needed that it's ONLY for flat screen games.
Mhm…
I dont think they would make vr games for this version of the game anyway
And since its an apple brand it is gonna be hard to hack into
Yeah that's the part that dissapointed me most. All this cool new hardware and it's all locked into apple
Mhm…
Apple and money, just like peanut butter and jelly
But you definitely know all the Apple fanatics are gonna get it either way
I know, and then they'll let it sit on their desk ask it's awkward to keep puttting it on and taking it off just to start a video chat
im pretty sure that was a ps5 controller
Oh I wouldn't know that, sorry
Maybe it will release with the Quest 3 with the new cpu
.
blud it isnt about the headset, its about the platform.
You can play Crescendo perfectly fine on pcvr, even using standalone streamed steam vr too
rec room lazy?
cool profile (i know where he's from and his name)
Am Striker from Helluva Boss and a Teacher of The Fouation of Maker Pen
not convinced, krill issue
yea, cause adding crescendo to oculus standalone wont make em money
why did they do isle then
Because Quest 2 could run Isles
did it make them money
Quest 3 might have enough power to run Crescendo, but again, they'll probably not bother with it.
it will have enough power
Yes it will, because they're probably gonna use one of their latest gen smartphone chips and adapt it for the Quest 3.
Qualcomm, however, are dicks.
They really don't like supporting their chips beyond 2 years or something like that.
esepcially with what meta claims to be twice the power as the quest 2
quest 2 isnt powerful enough to support crescendo
no
But it isn't powerful enough.
it just got a 624% performance boost
wii fan be like:
quest 1 looking at the N64 Graphics on the table:
Wait really?
the wii fan was actually somewhat bigger but yes it's somewhat the same size

so wait the quest 2 is a wii?
Did you not know that you could play Wii sports VR?
no the quest 1 is
the quest 2 is the wii u 🥁🥁💥
Nah the quest pro is the Wii u because just like the Wii u the quest pro was a failure
This is a great reason on why crescendo isn't on quest 2
Nice.
These photos would be less unique if Quest 2 could play Crescendo.
I love playing Crescendo in VR.
Questcendo
did i die or something?
Huh?
||actually i own a wii u and i can say from experience it is FAR better than the quest pro, at least it's made for gaming and does a good enough job at it, i may not own a quest pro or have ever used it but i have had my wii u for about 10 years and i haven't tried playing on it because i wanna try to get it repaired since i went to take the game out of it and there was a massive yellow paste-like wad of something on it, it wasn't like that before it was put in||
Because the quest 2 runs on a snapdragon XR2, while pcvr players run on whatever processor is inside their computer, which is superior to the XR2 9 out of 10 times. The XR2 doesn’t have the optimal performance to run crescendo, with all of its components and features, while a computer, which out-laps the quest 2 by a mile, can run it like a hot knife through butter.
real
It would take a very long time for the devs to optimize crescendo. In that time they could also be putting “effort” into other things such as item recolors.
thats true and to totally not try and get a quick buck
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Yeah the devs say they care about the game tell me why their is a influx of little kids most of your fucking players have left the game bc yall are money hungry y'all are turning into Ubisoft and EA and that's just sad soon y'all might have where we gotta pay to get past the fucking title screen if you actually listen to the community on what we wanna see you'd have more people return
Me and I have and very fun quest
Don't get me wrong, I doubt they'd add crescendo to the Quest 2. they shouldn't. Instead they should put effort into something that the community will really like. For example, a new quest that doesn't contain anything built with the makerpen. I understand that rec room studio is a thing and the players can make games like RROs, but nothing like that has been done yet. I just hope the Rec Room devs will do something that is truly wanted by most of the community. Of course, it is impossible to please everyone, though lately, they haven't really done what the real community has wanted (children do not count as part of the community). I'm not a part of the company so I do not know what they are doing (for all I know they could be working on a new quest) I do not know how difficult it is to make new skins, weapons, clothing, RROs, etc.
Listen if you really want to play cresendo on quest 2. Your best bet is getting a battery pack for quest 2 and use airlink for rec room. And yes it works without lagging and doing weirdo stuff. But there’s a small chance for that to happen though
kinda off topic but has anyone with ptc v55 tried out rec room yet? it has the performance boosts that i was talking about earlier
Please add crescendo to quest
there are a lot of high quality rooms that are just like rros
but nobody plays them
90% of the recroom population arent intelligent enough to play it
or they haven't shown up on their feed (or whatever it's called) yet, i think doing the first invasion event (OBVIOUSLY WITH CHANGES, they don't limit the rooms to go to tho) cause there was always a new game you can go to to get more xp which means more stuff, and it was nice and not expensive meaning everyone could buy at least something from it and it didn't drain your wallet so quickly, now i'm sure some people prefer playing what they enjoy playing instead of actively searching for a new game constantly
showdown is recroom studio...
and they teased a dead by daylight like rrs rro coming soon
i don't think there is ptc for that version yet
there is no small chance cause it depends on the specs that the person has and how good their internet is
check before you assume
But that’s an actual rro made by the dev team. Well actually it’s more like another tech demo.
Why don't you check?
That just contradicts the assumption. If one checks before assuming, then there is no need to assume something if they already know the answer.
whatever
PERFORMANCE ISSUES *insert rr screenmode doing frotnit defoolt denca
PCVR better.
screenmode better
spend less money to play than vr in general
still have more games
more enjoyable time
heck even NORMAL CONSOLE is better than vr
No teleport, no free hand movement.
Feels less like an NPC.
Doesn't feel soulless.
Screen-modes are the NPCs of rec room.
You cannot change my mind
Especially the ones without a microphone
The just stand there
Move
You move and stand
Lifelessly
VR players don't have what feels like four animations, everyone "idles" differently.
Recroom been real quiet since this post
💀
What???
This might be personal opinion but screenmode does not come close to any headset
tomorrow it will
even windows mixed reality? 
even oculus dk1 and 2? 
even the hololens? 
even the Sony Playstation 2 VR Headset PUD-J5A? 
just imagining playing in vr tops screen mode 

screenmode has better proccessing and ram and stuff like that than vr
ong
You quest users are to weak
hopefully not as weak as that grammar
True
Nothing is weaker than that grammer.
good news: crescendo's room page is viewable on quest 2
Everyone knows that already
no
Well, except you
no
Cope i see
Ok that was good
console mfs when they find out that motion controls are more accurate then sticks

Why not quest 2 players just put Cresendo item in rec room token shop
well crescendo items require silver and where do you get silver?
Gold from Isle I guess
but thats for isle not crescendo
I know
then it wouldn't make sense for people to play crescendo in the first place
Why not for quest 2 players to have crescendo items in Isle's shop?
but that wouldn't be fair for pcvr players
It ist fair for the majority of quest 2 players to miss out on the 5th quest
fix gramer
Grammer*
gramer
Grammer*
danger
just wait
Maybe the developers can't control if a toaster can run something that it wasn't made for.
Wait why would a toaster even have a screen in the first place
Ask Meta, they made Quest 2.
I didn't know meta made toasters
Oh wait i thought you meant the toaster that actually ran recroom
Also a quest 2 isn't a toaster
No, mean Quest 2, could easily make toast with how hot it gets.
It doesn't get that hot from the exterior
Very.
Ah
I usually have to wear a hoodie.
Do you use sidequest or something like that to increase CPU and GPU levels?
Nope.
How long have you had your quest 2?
About two years, my main point is that it greatly heats up, and I don't only mean like heat wise, I also mean performance wise.
It's an metaphor and exaggeration.
Poor optimization
Also when in a game you're connected peer to peer or something like that
So it always depends on each other internet
It's an exaggeration, and metaphore.
Yeah but I'm telling you the truth of why it don't run smoothly
Heating up is expected since its mobile hardware but games on it should be optimized to run smoothly which is not the case for recroom devs
I know why it doesn't run smoothly, what matters is that it works though.
Yeah
Gotta be grateful that it's possible to play vr games without ending your wallet with buying a PC and a VR headset
why do you guys
still believe
peer to peer
affects your performance
it affects your ping
not your fps
please stop saying optimization
read what i said above
its just ignorant to say the devs are lazy on optimizing the game
or anything similar
Where
Oh i see
Also yeah you're wrong
It doesn't run at 360p
It's run 1440p
And i could also confirm the whole network thing trust me as complicated as it sounds it true
Ive lowered the quality to really low on the game to the point that the game looked like complete pixel art and ive went on paintball only to get 28fps average still compared to it's default quality
It runs 1440p
Every game runs at that resolution
this 360p
this 1440p which is the default
and in case you're interested in what max resolution looks like
its possible you won't be able to tell the difference due to video compression
now if you excuse me im gonna put my quest 2 at its knees or more so in its grave by playing recroom at max resolution
Also did some research on p2p
This was the most basic form it was put in
Also this research was for making a game, and then I remembered that this was brought up
Yes
can't wait for crescendo on the quest 2
its not happening
why
what exactly are you trying to prove
my point is quest 2 on recroom feels like 360p
because vr itself works differently than screenmode
1440p is like 360p to vr
4k is like 1080p to vr
It's here.
i meant crescendo in gorilla tag
Too bad.
I know it's hard but I want to die 1,000,000 times.

Doom mod
Hey maybe i can play house.wad in vr if you think about it
Probably.
crescendo is coming with gorilla tag 2
lmao gzdoomvr castlevania
you can practically run any doom mod in vr... unless you get an error about shaders lol
i need to learn how to get proper 3D weapons in vr for a standalone gzdoom game
Tf
odneserC
The quest 2 isn't powerful enough to run cresendo standalone. [MAYBE PC WORKS IDK QUEST 2 SUCKS]
it could be after the recent v55 update that quest 2 got (which gave the cpu a 26% performance boost and the gpu a 19% performance boost)
as far as i know crescendo ran on the quest 2 just not really at a stable enough framerate throughout the quest for it to be released
K.
So like that v55 performance boost is all a marketing thing
It's true that there is gonna be a performance boost for all users IF the developer turns on that boost but this option was secretly always something that a normal user could turn on for a game
A couple months ago level 4 was unlocked
If you remember that gpu boost from months ago well that unlocked level 4 for developers to use in the game
Now level 5 was unlocked for developers
I have this app that has level 5 and all sorts of things unlocked
But anyways point is
Or well what i wanna say is that I'm hoping that recroom doesn't put the CPU levels at 5 cause that caused me overheating issues when i had it at that level
But if they optimize their game a bit more then level 5 could work without problems
they could make it so that only rros like rec royale and crescendo use level 5
No
It would be the whole game
Leve 5 would be on the whole game
But they could use dynamic which changes level automatically depending on what's going on
Which is already the default
The headset would melt
Well mine would
no because the quest 2 has a precaution for overheating
Yeah ik just a joke
mhm