#WHY is Cresendo not on quest 2?????

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mild sail
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It just can’t handle it at all

bitter surge
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Even the devs so just go port it yourself, thats how lazy they are

ruby mango
ruby mango
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what

bitter surge
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How can a whole company make a game that is barely optimized

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They had four plus years to optimize the game for the q2, look where that went

hot spear
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crescendo is not on quest pro

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vr is wayyy more intensive to run tho

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no it doesn’t lol it has a more advanced xr2 chip

chrome halo
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The quest version of the game is horribly optimized

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Bad optimization = no cres

zealous swan
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why are people talking like they’re hardware experts here

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the devs literally made rr run on a fucking mobile phone chip

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what is optimisation if that’s not

bitter surge
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If it's running in screenmode then it isn't running 3D, which is the problem, Quest 2 needs to run 3d, which takes a lot of GPU.

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The snapdragon cpu can't handle Crescendo, and the RRS argument is ruined as in quests the rooms are all in the same room, with RRS I don't know if you can enable and disable rooms, if you can't that would be more lag, and they would need subrooms, then nothing is loaded in.

bitter surge
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If it dont work then its not optimized

zealous swan
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your brain isn’t working
how do we optimise it

bitter surge
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And q2 rec room does not work

bitter surge
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Rec Room doesnt have servers

zealous swan
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bro what

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the fuck are you saying

bitter surge
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Yup

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Rec Room has a networking called peer to peer

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Which is the alternative of servers

zealous swan
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that has absolutely nothing to do with optimisation wtf

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are you actually dumb or what

bitter surge
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Do you know what peer to peer means

zealous swan
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connection only fucks with the ping but never the fps

bitter surge
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This has everything tp do with optimization

zealous swan
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please refrain from talking if you don’t know what you’re talking about

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having good servers won’t suddenly make your hardware better

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you’re giving me a fucking headache jesus

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please just stop

bitter surge
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What im saying is that one headset is acting like a server for everyone

zealous swan
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holy fucking shit

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just stop

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you’re actually dumb

bitter surge
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Just listen please

zealous swan
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no shit im not listening to a 12 years old telling me why connection fucks with optimisation

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with absolutely no source backing them up as well

bitter surge
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If they used servers more of the processing would happen on the server, not the headsets.

bitter surge
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One of Rec Rooms old qna said they use peer to peer

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Sercers however likely wouldn't solve much.

zealous swan
bitter surge
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And then the devs had saidtheir working in making servers but idl about that

zealous swan
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if it can’t run shit it still wont run shit after hosting a server

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if it can run shit then it can still run shit after hosting a server

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it’s literally that simple

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hardware limitations are limitations

bitter surge
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Yes.

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Quest 2 will never have Crescendo.

zealous swan
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quest 3 probably will but not quest 2

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why isn’t this shitass thread closed yet

bitter surge
zealous swan
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oh my god why are you still going on

bitter surge
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Because this is a real problem

zealous swan
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no it’s not

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limits are fucking limits

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crying in a thread won’t help

bitter surge
bitter surge
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As nice as it would be it just won't work.

zealous swan
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OH MY GOD

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JUST FUCKING STOP

bitter surge
bitter surge
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They did look into finding a way to optimize it, but if it was still laggy they won't release it.

zealous swan
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peer to peer’s only disadvantage is that people might get higher ping and the host, only the fucking host, might get the tiniest bit of performance downgrades

zealous swan
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tell me a single reason why would they not try to optimise crescendo if they could

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laziness?

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money is way more important

bitter surge
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That's what they said, if it's true we'll never really know, however they would only need to lower texture quality, particle count, and model quality.

zealous swan
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have you ever imagined how much more playercount they can get if they manage to optimise crescendo

bitter surge
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Capitalism

zealous swan
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are you actually 12

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capitalism gives them more of a reason to optimise the game
assuming it’s even possible

bitter surge
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How would crescendo increase the player count

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I wonder if I could convince some with RRS to port Crescendo in to Quest 2, just to prove it wouldn't work.

zealous swan
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and make them stay

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if they’re that lazy
rec room would have fucking died years ago

bitter surge
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average 7 year old crying on the discord not knowing how hardware works

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Then the money happened

bitter surge
zealous swan
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why are all those 9 year olds acting as if they’re experts

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and decide to blame everything on optimisation

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they literally cannot fucking realise how demanding running vr is

bitter surge
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They watched a Youtube tutorial on optimization.

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"give quest 2 crescendo!!!1! it will work with ray tracing the devs are just lazy!!1!"

zealous swan
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and they can’t realise quest 2 runs on a fucking mobile chip

bitter surge
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The quest is just a big samsung stuck to your face

zealous swan
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it’s a technological miracle the chip can run vr on higher than 144p

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and more than 10 fps

bitter surge
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arm chip =/= samsung

bitter surge
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i think you can play crescendo on some android devices

zealous swan
bitter surge
bitter surge
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i tried crescendo on my phone but i kept dying cuz the controls suck

zealous swan
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im literally getting performance issues in crescendo with a 3060 and 12th gen i5
i have effectively zero idea how can optimisation make crescendo run on a quest 2

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the only way to make quest 2 run crescendo is by massive downgrading but not optimising

bitter surge
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"My PS5 can run Crescendo with better graphics, and lighting, so clearly Quest 2 can run Crescendo"

zealous swan
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rr itself is already massively downgraded and optimised to even run on quest 2

bitter surge
bitter surge
zealous swan
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it’d be pcvr users talking about optimisation before quest 2

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the only solution to quest 2 now is downgrading

bitter surge
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But its already heavily downgraded

zealous swan
bitter surge
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Yep

zealous swan
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yet you’re still arguing as if you can still squeeze anything out of that chip

bitter surge
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cant wait for quest 3 tho

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Higher resolution

zealous swan
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quest 3 can potentially run crescendo

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but not at a higher resolution

bitter surge
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trust they will have crescendo on it

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i couldnt imagine the backlash if they didnt

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No im talking about other games with higher resolution

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i don't expect crescendo on launch though

zealous swan
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you can only have high resolution after you’ve already made the game run

bitter surge
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Imagine Red Matter 2 if they do update it

zealous swan
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can we ping a mod and kill this thread

bitter surge
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Yes

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It works kinda

zealous swan
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so people like you won’t come here anymore and cry about crescendo

dark jay
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they did so with quest pro almost immediately

wraith marten
bitter surge
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Also that has 120 optimization mods, and is still laggy.

modest marsh
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also isn't that what this is for tho?

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just scrolled up but yeah you sounded either mad or just aggressive, it's the one thing and it's one thing quest 2 users want

bitter surge
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but its impossible to add RRtroll

bitter surge
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it’s never coming to quest pointless whining about it

raw dove
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youd be surprised

mild sail
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If you really want to play crescendo without wires but you have a good pc, just use VD or ALXR or Air Link or one of the other 300 vr streaming services

twilit cypress
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Crescendo Skullo

dark jay
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Descendo

bitter surge
dark jay
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YESS

zealous swan
full ingot
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Bro, to answer ur question, quest standalone can't process dat much data and not lag

nimble ingot
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Please fut the Shuck up Crescendo will never be on quest 2

meager tartan
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oh my god it just came out on the quest 2

bitter surge
wraith marten
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Mine Is fine, skill issue

meager tartan
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i can not wait to play garden of dracula

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dracul

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dra

meager tartan
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interesting

bitter surge
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Doesn't mean it will run.

meager tartan
bitter surge
meager tartan
bitter surge
meager tartan
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quest 2's problem with crescendo is performance not outdated hardware

bitter surge
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it can but devs lazy + optimization issues + older quest2 will run out of memory

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my headset runs out of memory a lot

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Yes, the devs are lazy since they won't do something they can't do.

meager tartan
bitter surge
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this game is falling apart bc devs lazy

meager tartan
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true

bitter surge
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just protest or somethin idk

bitter surge
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can we just kill this thread already they aint adding it 🗣️🙏

fleet ivy
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I wonder how long Meta will consider keeping the q2 support up, since the q1 support ended pretty quickly

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Imagine if they pull an AAA move and release a new headset every 2 years and end support on the older ones

modest marsh
# meager tartan tomorrow

what about quest 3, also i'm sure if a dev said something about crescendo coming to quest 2 and 3 than this would not be a thread anymore but until then, it stands, unlike echo vr

meager tartan
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"just upgrade to the quest 3 when it comes out"

bitter surge
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i dont see it ever coming to quest 2 this thread needs to die fr fr 🗣️🙏

modest marsh
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and people will be at ease

bitter surge
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they need to say it isnt coming to quest 2 tbh

harsh marlin
modest marsh
modest marsh
bitter surge
modest marsh
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when did they say something?

harsh marlin
bitter surge
modest marsh
bitter surge
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same reason why isle wasnt on quest 1

modest marsh
modest marsh
harsh marlin
modest marsh
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what did they say

meager tartan
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what did they say

harsh marlin
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They said that crescendo isnt on Q2 for the same reason why rec royale wasnt on Q1: the Q2 isnt powerdul enough to run crescendo on standalond

meager tartan
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they said that they might try to port crescendo to the quest 2 again after they're done with rec room studio

bitter surge
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i cant wait for the quest 3 tho tbh

bitter surge
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im gonna get it as my first vr headset fr fr

meager tartan
bitter surge
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i mean i can see crescendo running on quest but like really dumbed down tho

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if they port it to quest dont expect it to look good

meager tartan
bitter surge
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i dont really know all too much of what the visuals are like for myself but i imagine they are similar to mobile rec room

meager tartan
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yup but worse

bitter surge
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also i can play crescendo on my phone RRtroll

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but my phone is like a lot powerfuller

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like nearly 3 times i think?

meager tartan
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and it also doesn't run vr

harsh marlin
bitter surge
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im gonna sell off everything i own for the quest 7 🤑

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but imagine the future of standalone though

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like imagine a headset with the amd z1

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(the soc used in the rog ally)

meager tartan
harsh marlin
meager tartan
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yeah

harsh marlin
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The Quest 3 will still be better, since they claim that its gonna be 2x more powerful than the quest 2

meager tartan
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because apparently garden of sorrow was "a bit too much" for the quest 2 which is the main reason why it isn't on the quest 2 rn

harsh marlin
harsh marlin
mild sail
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also heres an example: my toaster is good at making toast but it cant run rec room, could optimisation fix that?

meager tartan
mild sail
meager tartan
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yes but usually the quest 2 is a device that is capable of running something like crescendo

bitter surge
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unless they made it look like old school runescape i dont see it running

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thats a hyperbole before you guys attack me

meager tartan
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it is too late

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they have already been sent

modest pendant
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My guess is that Cresendo is being saved for the Mac Vision Pro, since it runs on iPhones and not android phones, basically confirming that it works on apple mobile hardware.

bitter surge
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of course it will be on the vision pro on screen mode since it is unlikely it natively runs rec room vr

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but it will run the ipad version so good luck with the terrible controls

bitter surge
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Also you would really spend 3k on a headset

modest pendant
# bitter surge The Vision doesnt have controllers

I think that's not as big a barrier as we might think, because both Apple and RR are heavily integrated with Unity, and Unity abstracts away controller inputs, which could be custom written by Apple, sort of like SteamVR controller emulation

bitter surge
modest pendant
bitter surge
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What kind i kinda like watched 3/4 of the headset showcase then got bored

modest pendant
bitter surge
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Ik their is xbox and playstation controller support

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But thats for flat screen games

modest pendant
bitter surge
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Mhm…

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I dont think they would make vr games for this version of the game anyway

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And since its an apple brand it is gonna be hard to hack into

modest pendant
bitter surge
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Mhm…

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Apple and money, just like peanut butter and jelly

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But you definitely know all the Apple fanatics are gonna get it either way

modest pendant
dark jay
modest pendant
modest pendant
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Maybe it will release with the Quest 3 with the new cpu

bitter surge
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.

agile tiger
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blud it isnt about the headset, its about the platform.
You can play Crescendo perfectly fine on pcvr, even using standalone streamed steam vr too

modest marsh
bitter surge
modest marsh
agile tiger
meager tartan
bitter surge
meager tartan
dire notch
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Quest 3 might have enough power to run Crescendo, but again, they'll probably not bother with it.

dire notch
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Qualcomm, however, are dicks.

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They really don't like supporting their chips beyond 2 years or something like that.

dark jay
round mesa
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quest 2 isnt powerful enough to support crescendo

bitter surge
meager tartan
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it just got a 624% performance boost

brazen blaze
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wii fan be like:

brazen blaze
dark jay
brazen blaze
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the wii fan was actually somewhat bigger but yes it's somewhat the same size

dark jay
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Yeah

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Wow

bitter surge
meager tartan
dark jay
brazen blaze
dark jay
turbid hemlock
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L

dark jay
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This is a great reason on why crescendo isn't on quest 2

bitter surge
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These photos would be less unique if Quest 2 could play Crescendo.

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I love playing Crescendo in VR.

bitter surge
bitter surge
bitter surge
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Yes, you did die.

modest marsh
# dark jay Nah the quest pro is the Wii u because just like the Wii u the quest pro was a f...

||actually i own a wii u and i can say from experience it is FAR better than the quest pro, at least it's made for gaming and does a good enough job at it, i may not own a quest pro or have ever used it but i have had my wii u for about 10 years and i haven't tried playing on it because i wanna try to get it repaired since i went to take the game out of it and there was a massive yellow paste-like wad of something on it, it wasn't like that before it was put in||

latent quarry
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Because the quest 2 runs on a snapdragon XR2, while pcvr players run on whatever processor is inside their computer, which is superior to the XR2 9 out of 10 times. The XR2 doesn’t have the optimal performance to run crescendo, with all of its components and features, while a computer, which out-laps the quest 2 by a mile, can run it like a hot knife through butter.

idle shadow
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real

verbal matrix
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It would take a very long time for the devs to optimize crescendo. In that time they could also be putting “effort” into other things such as item recolors.

idle shadow
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pearl sinew
young schooner
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Me and I have and very fun quest

verbal matrix
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Don't get me wrong, I doubt they'd add crescendo to the Quest 2. they shouldn't. Instead they should put effort into something that the community will really like. For example, a new quest that doesn't contain anything built with the makerpen. I understand that rec room studio is a thing and the players can make games like RROs, but nothing like that has been done yet. I just hope the Rec Room devs will do something that is truly wanted by most of the community. Of course, it is impossible to please everyone, though lately, they haven't really done what the real community has wanted (children do not count as part of the community). I'm not a part of the company so I do not know what they are doing (for all I know they could be working on a new quest) I do not know how difficult it is to make new skins, weapons, clothing, RROs, etc.

young schooner
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Listen if you really want to play cresendo on quest 2. Your best bet is getting a battery pack for quest 2 and use airlink for rec room. And yes it works without lagging and doing weirdo stuff. But there’s a small chance for that to happen though

meager tartan
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kinda off topic but has anyone with ptc v55 tried out rec room yet? it has the performance boosts that i was talking about earlier

lucid fox
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Please add crescendo to quest

zealous swan
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but nobody plays them

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90% of the recroom population arent intelligent enough to play it

modest marsh
# zealous swan there are a lot of high quality rooms that are just like rros

or they haven't shown up on their feed (or whatever it's called) yet, i think doing the first invasion event (OBVIOUSLY WITH CHANGES, they don't limit the rooms to go to tho) cause there was always a new game you can go to to get more xp which means more stuff, and it was nice and not expensive meaning everyone could buy at least something from it and it didn't drain your wallet so quickly, now i'm sure some people prefer playing what they enjoy playing instead of actively searching for a new game constantly

dark jay
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and they teased a dead by daylight like rrs rro coming soon

dark jay
dark jay
meager tartan
verbal matrix
dark jay
verbal matrix
meager tartan
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whatever

strong rivet
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PERFORMANCE ISSUES *insert rr screenmode doing frotnit defoolt denca

strong rivet
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spend less money to play than vr in general

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still have more games

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more enjoyable time

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heck even NORMAL CONSOLE is better than vr

bitter surge
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No teleport, no free hand movement.

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Feels less like an NPC.

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Doesn't feel soulless.

strong rivet
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YOU ARE AN NPC WITH THAT TALK

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STOP USING PROPER GRAMMAR

bitter surge
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Wall clipping.

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Better speedrun times.

verbal matrix
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Screen-modes are the NPCs of rec room.

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You cannot change my mind

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Especially the ones without a microphone

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The just stand there

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Move

dark jay
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You move and stand

verbal matrix
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Lifelessly

bitter surge
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VR players don't have what feels like four animations, everyone "idles" differently.

bitter surge
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They are really creepy

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idk why i’m rlly interested reading this lmao

gritty spade
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Recroom been real quiet since this post

fleet ivy
fleet ivy
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This might be personal opinion but screenmode does not come close to any headset

meager tartan
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tomorrow it will

bitter surge
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even oculus dk1 and 2? RRtroll

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even the hololens? RRtroll

fleet ivy
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Yes, even cardboard RRtroll

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Even switch vr RRtroll

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and even a 10 dollar vr phone case RRtroll

bitter surge
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even the Sony Playstation 2 VR Headset PUD-J5A? RRtroll

fleet ivy
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just imagining playing in vr tops screen mode RRtroll

bitter surge
strong rivet
unborn sandal
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You quest users are to weak

raw dove
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hopefully not as weak as that grammar

bitter surge
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True

bitter surge
meager tartan
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good news: crescendo's room page is viewable on quest 2

bitter surge
meager tartan
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no

bitter surge
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Well, except you

meager tartan
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no

bitter surge
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Cope i see

unborn sandal
brazen blaze
novel idol
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Why not quest 2 players just put Cresendo item in rec room token shop

dark jay
novel idol
dark jay
novel idol
dark jay
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then it wouldn't make sense for people to play crescendo in the first place

novel idol
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Why not for quest 2 players to have crescendo items in Isle's shop?

dark jay
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but that wouldn't be fair for pcvr players

novel idol
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It ist fair for the majority of quest 2 players to miss out on the 5th quest

novel idol
keen dove
novel idol
keen dove
novel idol
keen dove
novel idol
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Forecast for today?

bitter surge
dark jay
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Wait why would a toaster even have a screen in the first place

bitter surge
dark jay
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I didn't know meta made toasters

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Oh wait i thought you meant the toaster that actually ran recroom

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Also a quest 2 isn't a toaster

bitter surge
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No, mean Quest 2, could easily make toast with how hot it gets.

dark jay
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It doesn't get that hot from the exterior

bitter surge
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Does for me.

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Mostly from Rec Room though.

dark jay
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Yeah ofc recroom increase temp

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Is your play space cooled down?

bitter surge
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Very.

dark jay
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Ah

bitter surge
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I usually have to wear a hoodie.

dark jay
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Do you use sidequest or something like that to increase CPU and GPU levels?

bitter surge
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Nope.

dark jay
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How long have you had your quest 2?

bitter surge
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About two years, my main point is that it greatly heats up, and I don't only mean like heat wise, I also mean performance wise.

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It's an metaphor and exaggeration.

dark jay
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Poor optimization

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Also when in a game you're connected peer to peer or something like that

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So it always depends on each other internet

bitter surge
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It's an exaggeration, and metaphore.

dark jay
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Yeah but I'm telling you the truth of why it don't run smoothly

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Heating up is expected since its mobile hardware but games on it should be optimized to run smoothly which is not the case for recroom devs

bitter surge
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I know why it doesn't run smoothly, what matters is that it works though.

dark jay
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Yeah

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Gotta be grateful that it's possible to play vr games without ending your wallet with buying a PC and a VR headset

zealous swan
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still believe

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peer to peer

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affects your performance

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it affects your ping

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not your fps

zealous swan
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read what i said above

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its just ignorant to say the devs are lazy on optimizing the game

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or anything similar

dark jay
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Where

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Oh i see

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Also yeah you're wrong

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It doesn't run at 360p

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It's run 1440p

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And i could also confirm the whole network thing trust me as complicated as it sounds it true

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Ive lowered the quality to really low on the game to the point that the game looked like complete pixel art and ive went on paintball only to get 28fps average still compared to it's default quality

zealous swan
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elaborate on the topic

dark jay
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Every game runs at that resolution

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its possible you won't be able to tell the difference due to video compression

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now if you excuse me im gonna put my quest 2 at its knees or more so in its grave by playing recroom at max resolution

bitter surge
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Also did some research on p2p

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This was the most basic form it was put in

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Also this research was for making a game, and then I remembered that this was brought up

dark jay
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Yes

meager tartan
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can't wait for crescendo on the quest 2

upbeat abyss
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its not happening

meager tartan
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why

zealous swan
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my point is quest 2 on recroom feels like 360p

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because vr itself works differently than screenmode

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1440p is like 360p to vr

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4k is like 1080p to vr

meager tartan
bitter surge
weak nest
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I know it's hard but I want to die 1,000,000 times.

zealous swan
bitter surge
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Hey maybe i can play house.wad in vr if you think about it

meager tartan
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crescendo is coming with gorilla tag 2

raw dove
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you can practically run any doom mod in vr... unless you get an error about shaders lol

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i need to learn how to get proper 3D weapons in vr for a standalone gzdoom game

novel idol
turbid hemlock
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odneserC

worthy shoal
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The quest 2 isn't powerful enough to run cresendo standalone. [MAYBE PC WORKS IDK QUEST 2 SUCKS]

meager tartan
worthy shoal
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Man idk.

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Quest 2 sucks (no offense just saying from my experience)

meager tartan
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as far as i know crescendo ran on the quest 2 just not really at a stable enough framerate throughout the quest for it to be released

worthy shoal
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K.

dark jay
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It's true that there is gonna be a performance boost for all users IF the developer turns on that boost but this option was secretly always something that a normal user could turn on for a game

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A couple months ago level 4 was unlocked

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If you remember that gpu boost from months ago well that unlocked level 4 for developers to use in the game

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Now level 5 was unlocked for developers

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I have this app that has level 5 and all sorts of things unlocked

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But anyways point is

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Or well what i wanna say is that I'm hoping that recroom doesn't put the CPU levels at 5 cause that caused me overheating issues when i had it at that level

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But if they optimize their game a bit more then level 5 could work without problems

meager tartan
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they could make it so that only rros like rec royale and crescendo use level 5

dark jay
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No

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It would be the whole game

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Leve 5 would be on the whole game

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But they could use dynamic which changes level automatically depending on what's going on

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Which is already the default

bitter surge
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Well mine would

dark jay
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no because the quest 2 has a precaution for overheating

bitter surge
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Yeah ik just a joke

dark jay
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mhm

bitter surge
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Everything has a precaution when it overheats

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Unless some dont, which would be dumb