WHY is Cresendo not on quest 2?????

[vale shore]

Just why

[snow lantern]

you dont have to know

[bitter surge]

The reason is a secret.

[fathom dirge]

because the Quest 2 can't handle it with RR's unoptimized rendering engine

[vale shore]

But bonelab runs fine on quest 2

[fathom dirge]

because of Rec Room's unoptimized rendering engine

[bitter surge]

Games have a thing called "optimization" to make them run better, more recently newer games ditch this idea, if Rec Room surprisingly added optimization like Bonelab has, Rec Room on quest 2 can look very similar to PCVR, and run Crescendo. So they say it's because quest 2 can't run it, but it can, they're just lazy.

[vale shore]

So it is possible but there lazy to add it

[bitter surge]

Yes.

Why do you think the mirror is still buggy? It might take more than five minutes to fix, and there isn't any copy and paste code for it.

[vale shore]

I think they should just add it so everyone is happy

[brisk crown]

Optimization 👍

[bitter surge]

Well, Crescendo won't make them money. Buying 50,000 tokens for 60 USD will.

[vale shore]

Still it will get people back and when the play again people will buy more tokens so rec room makes more money

[bitter surge]

You think they care? It will not bring many kids back who are willing to spend a stupid amount of money on a currency.

PCVR, PSVR, and screenmode are used by many of the older audience for Crescendo, most little kids play in VR us quest 2 and they don't know about Crescendo.

[brisk crown]

Being honest what % of the recroom community (that plays on quest 2 mainly) would actually play crescendo

[bitter surge]

Maybe 35% for one game, but then they would stop due to length.

[brisk crown]

Nor will it ever

[bitter surge]

Rec Room isn't optimized in general.

[earnest valve]

simple answer: cant run cuz of the battery

[bitter surge]

Wrong answer.

[vale shore]

It’s not a bad headset

[bitter surge]

Compared to PCVR it's a horrible headset.

Better than PSVR.

[vale shore]

Was isle on the quest when isle came out

[bitter surge]

I believe so.

But I think Isles and Crescendo came out before quest 2.

[vale shore]

I mean with the battery life of the quest you’ll probably be able to get past the library

[bitter surge]

False.

[vale shore]

And that’s it

[brisk crown]

How long it take u to do cres????

[bitter surge]

The headset seems to die fastest in Rec Room, for the same reason.

You could probably beat Crescendo twice before it died.

[vale shore]

I have a Xbox and quest so when I want to play crescendo I go on my Xbox

[bitter surge]

So? I do it in PCVR, and screenmode, I had a sub eighteen minute run. The average run is fifty-five minutes.

[vale shore]

So on my quest I have the red apples and vampire hunter set

[brisk crown]

Didn't answer my question but ok

[bitter surge]

I probably average around thirty minutes.

[brisk crown]

20 at most 💀

[bitter surge]

The last runs I remember were under twenty minutes.

But I'm trying to include bad and good runs including closer to when I first played Crescendo.

[near sedge]

do you enjoy explosives?

[bitter surge]

That is off-topic.

[uncut crest]

I played crescendo a few times and i completed 1 🫥

[near sedge]

wdym. this forum name is literally about an explosive.

[bitter surge]

No.

[near sedge]

yes

[bitter surge]

Elaborate.

[near sedge]

quest 2 + cresendo = boom

[bitter surge]

Perhaps, but it definitely wouldn't if they would just optimize their game.

[near sedge]

are you a developer that has enough experience to infer that?

[bitter surge]

Do you not understand what optimization is?

[near sedge]

are you a developer that knows that they “would just optimize their game.” and crescendo would function on q2

[bitter surge]

If Quest 2 can run Bonelab with the same physics as PCVR, and many older computers can run Atomic Heart on medium graphic settings, quest 2 would be able to function on Quest 2.

[near sedge]

that’s literally why bonelab sucks

[fathom dirge]

yes, but Rec Room is an unoptimized mess

[bitter surge]

No?

Optimization doesn't make a game worst.

[fathom dirge]

it makes it run worse, which is why Crescendo isn't on the Quest 2

[bitter surge]

Do you not know what optimization is?

[fathom dirge]

yes, I do, I'm a developer

[bitter surge]

Optimization is made to increase frame rate.

[fathom dirge]

optimization is what allows a game to run at maximum capacity

and Rec Room isn't optimized

[near sedge]

are you just going to ask this question whenever someone says something against your idea?

[fathom dirge]

and why do you think they don't have Crescendo on Quest 2?

because the framerate would be horrible

[bitter surge]

Maybe it wouldn't be able to run even if it is optimized, but if it was it wouldn't just explode.

[fathom dirge]

because REC ROOM IS UNOPTIMIZED

[bitter surge]

Yes.

[near sedge]

the q2 looks like a toaster… are you seriously going to tell me that the thing won’t explode?

[bitter surge]

Yes.

[fathom dirge]

at worst it'll just shut off from overheating

[near sedge]

impossible

[fathom dirge]

?

[near sedge]

I want to place a firework in a q2 to prove my point really bad

[bitter surge]

If you put a firework in any VR headset it wouldn't work anymore?

That's not Quest 2 exclusive.

[near sedge]

I didn’t say every headset is immune to explosives

[near sedge]

how does that prove the idea of fireworks not blowing up a q2

ooga booga

[royal loom]

https://recroom.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4424596257687-Why-are-some-activities-not-on-Meta-Quest-

[bitter surge]

Ain't no way bro used lazy rec rooms own word against us 💀

[merry zephyr]

This conversation was weird. but the reason why is that rec room has no intention going back to older quests and optmtizing it for the quest 2 and instead would rather focus on new rros

[placid tiger]

Great, I have the full S+ outfit

[surreal nacelle]

The same reason GTA 6 is not out yet.

[daring pebble]

It really isn't , but it's what your paying for, with some add ons it's a 7/10 for comfort without 5/10

[sullen marlin]

the quest 2 could probably run it at a Game & Watch rate lmfao

I have a feeling Crescendo could release to Quest 3 though

[sullen marlin]

Quest 2, not Quest 1, and Isle is WAY shorter than Crescendo.

[sullen marlin]

are you a dev?

[sullen marlin]

my headset once did the “system alert” overheating warning and shut itself off, and it was only warm, not even close to being too hot

[fathom dirge]

you don't know how hot it was on the inside

[sullen marlin]

no, like i mean it was barely warm

pretty sure if it were boiling hot, it would be hot outside also

plus, i booted it up and it worked perfectly fine afterwards

was probably just a false alarm or some shit

[fathom dirge]

so what? the internal thermometer misjudged the temperature

[sullen marlin]

anyways about the crescendo topic

if rr studio ever releases to the public, im sure someone will make it themselves

[fathom dirge]

and it'll run just fine

[sullen marlin]

i mean ^Crescendo_Beta exists, but it’s made with Maker Pen

[sullen marlin]

if they use subrooms, likely

rr studio is still pretty poorly optimized on Meta Quest

like the flashing sky for instance

mostly happens to me when im laggy

[vague aurora]

If they make it and its Super laggy Ill still play it.

[bitter surge]

@vale shore just know, nothing like this will ever happen

[vale shore]

They are determining if they can or not

[jagged rune]

*They're

[vale shore]

Wdym they’re

[jagged rune]

They're as in they are, not there, as in the word to reference position.

[dark jay]

that gif lol

[vale shore]

So they’re not going to bring crescendo to quest

[jagged rune]

Yes

[vale shore]

Oh

But why can’t they

[hexed pine]

You forgot to quote the "they are" and the "there" in your sentence.

[jagged rune]

Quest 2 isn't powerful enough for such an unoptimized game, and they won't bother optimizing it as they don't see it as worth it.

[cold raft]

Yeah what everybody else said, RecRoom is so poorly optomized even for VR standards that RecRoom would actually have to care about more than making some cash to get it running properly

As you can tell, that's not happening anytime soon.

[dark jay]

yeah

I think they put all or well almost all their resources on making new things that look cool which would explain why the new things actually look cool

they were made with care and they try to make things that would please the player when they buy it

they want the player to feel good feel like it's worth the purchase just to wear and then probably leave whenever something else new comes out

I personally feel like if they put some resources on optimizing the game for the good of all the platforms and some on trying to make new cool things then well it may just be worth it even though the new accessories would have a loss in quality probably

[zealous swan]

hi

i came in just to tell all of you quest 2 users

crescendo isn’t gonna ever come on quest 2

crying in a discord thread won’t make them make something impossible into possible

they would have done that already if they could

[dark jay]

no they wouldn't

unless there were changes to their priorities

I'm not saying if recroom started prioritizing on optimizing the game that crescendo would come to quest 2

but it would be kind of possible I'm not sure though as I'm no developer myself

[torpid umbra]

I’m just confused about the fact that it’s not “Powerful Enough” for the quest 2. We’ve had new RRO’s, and all 4 of the other quests work. Why would it be a problem for crescendo to be put on the quest 2? How is this game, compared to other quests, more “powerful” than the quests we have right now? I’m just confused. Would it be able to be put on the quest 2 if another quest was taken down? Or is crescendo really that “powerful” for the quest 2 to actually handle. I’m not a developer either, but it makes no sense why they can’t.

[dark jay]

well I wouldn't know cause I never played it

[stable niche]

volumetric fog vs quest 2

[dark jay]

😱

[prime bane]

Yknow what would make this a whole lot easier. TANGIBLE QUALITY SETTINGS

[dark jay]

explain

also hacky bear is that really you

[prime bane]

I don't care if it looks like shit, I just wanna play it

[dark jay]

the one I met in reccenter?

[prime bane]

When

[dark jay]

ok hold on

[prime bane]

Just get a picture of me

[dark jay]

this you?

also if it is you then damn you really lost 100 subs huh

[prime bane]

Ye that me, and that's a goal at the bottom

[dark jay]

oh ok

well hello hackybear 🫡

[torpid umbra]

Fr

[zealous swan]

have you compared the length of crescendo to other quests

have you compared the details of crescendo to other quests

[zealous swan]

its an absolute miracle quest 2 can even work above 144p

quest 2 runs on a mobile cpu

with no dedicated gpu

what did you expect it to do

[torpid umbra]

But I mean, is the only problem the “graphics”? Because I wouldn’t mind it looking bad while playing I just want to play.

[zealous swan]

graphics isnt the problem

it never was

the fact that people still enjoys rec room on quest 2 already tells that graphic is never a matter

because rec room runs on quest 2 at like 360p

the issue is the fps

now imagine yourself playing in a quest with ~30 fps and a resolution lower than 360p

lets say 200 ish

200ish resolution will already make your brain feel horrendous

let alone the 30 fps

note that the targeted fps of any vr game is 90 fps

even if you can bear with ~200p resolution and 30 fps

its absolutely objective you should just go play on your phone at that point

[torpid umbra]

Oh okay

[bitter surge]

Yes, sako explained it perfectly. To be honest Rec Room on quest 2 it like lags. Like I seriously wouldn't see a already optimized Rec Center barley running near full fps in a public lobby. So I seriously wouldn't see Crescendo happening any time soon. I mean maybe if they'd consider it with the Quest 3 coming later this year which I kind of doubt. It'll take them a good amount of time to optimize the entire quest to even work. For example Bonelabs. The whole game had to be optimized and probably took the devs like AWHILE to do that. So if Rec Room was up for it same things go for Crescendo.

[bitter surge]

Look there is a way to play crescendo with only a quest 2 but every 1 minute you get kicked

[fathom dirge]

how?

[bitter surge]

It’s the wackiest way but you need sidequest for it

[fathom dirge]

oh, that virus, pass

[bitter surge]

Well not really a virus you just get on ur phone and plug ur phone into ur vr headset and boom get any app u want I use sidequest for 𝕘𝕒𝕞𝕚𝕟𝕘

[fathom dirge]

I got it on my computer once, opened it, it repeatedly opened new windows of itself, replicating, and making my fans go wild

[bitter surge]

It kinda goes boom if it’s on a pc. Phone suggested

I had tested it on pc and

[bitter surge]

If you played crescendo on quest 2, expect it in flames

[bitter surge]

It won’t work

[brazen path]

Because rec room devs are lazy as shit. If isle can be on quest 2 why can’t crescendo be?

[torpid umbra]

Exactly

[zealous swan]

what about you stop constantly malding and go buy a pc

[bitter surge]

Well, it has alot of things the quest cant handle they cant fix, understand how optimization works and come back lateer

[brazen path]

Yeah I know that’s why zuckaberg has to pull his head out of his ass and actually use his money for good purposes like making the quest a higher powered headset like htc just did with the xr elite.

[dark jay]

but then wouldn't that also increase the price of the quest 2 even more

it would end up at 500 dollars

and I'm sure that people would complain about such a price

[wraith hare]

They need to optimize it for quest 2 but they are too lazy

[dark jay]

I'm pretty sure the xr elite is 1000 dollars too so you can't expect the quest 2 to really beat the xr elite either

[dark jay]

I mean if you plan on getting a xr elite I think it's just better to save up for a pc

[brazen path]

I’m not getting an xr elite as I use pc vr

[dark jay]

good for you

[brazen path]

Thank you

[dark jay]

you're not wrong though

[brazen path]

Yea

[dark jay]

rr devs are lazy

all they want money and that's just how life these days are

everyone just wants money

[brazen path]

All the RRO’s are made with unity and crescendo has the same graphics as Isle of the lost skulls so why can’t crescendo be on quest?

[dark jay]

Even with no optimization lots of people still play the game so they don't have to focus on that

they focus on making cool new accessories

[brazen path]

This is a big lie

[dark jay]

where did you get that?

[brazen path]

They make a “limited” item that is 5,000 tokens which is 10 dollars and then in a month they re-release it in some stupid “S” shop but this time it’s double the price

[brazen path]

Recroom.com

[dark jay]

well not really

[brazen path]

Well it’s kinda like that, they still haven’t token the orange thriller set of the store

As well as the white pumpkin set

Took them 4 months to remove candy apples from the store too

They lazy as shit

[dark jay]

well hey they're trying

[brazen path]

I know but they used to make a lot of RRO’s a year

[dark jay]

they don't have many employees

[brazen path]

Yeah I know but it’s not really that hard too, I’m not bashing them, I’m bashing the owners who are all in for the money and only the money

[dark jay]

like i said before that's all people and companies want

think fortnite

roblox

many other games

all they want is money

but at the very least recroom isn't that money hungry and give away their in game currency for free by playing their game

[zealous swan]

im fairly certain higher powered headset is just gonna make clueless people like you cry

i literally swear these guys are gonna mald about how a high powered headset costs more than 300 dollars if one ever comes out

they wont bother trying to find out why is it expensive

all theyll do is cry 24/7

[brazen path]

I don’t care how much it cost💀 headsets like the index are reasonably priced

As well as the xr

And I know what the prices are

[zealous swan]

index is like the least reasonably priced headset as of this year lmfao

[brazen path]

I’ve tried it out💀 it’s the best headset I’ve ever used

[zealous swan]

doesn’t change the fact that it’s not longer worth 1k

index is one of the first consumer level headsets

it’s simply unreasonable to still sell for 1k in this generation

where the headset market is slowly getting refined and priced getting cheaper

[stable niche]

I'm coing up in 2 years of having an index i can proudly say 1k is definitely worth it. Overall it is still the best headset overall for it price, it isn't the best headset alone though, people may prefer others like the high fedlity of the hp reverb g2 but with everything else it comes with still makes it on top for it's price for example: htc vive pro 2 full kit $1800cad, index full fit $1300cad not only is it cheeper but I'd argue you get more for your money.

[zealous swan]

“you get more for your money”
stares at quest 2

[stable niche]

sorry to tell you but the difference is day and night

[zealous swan]

won’t justify the fact I can get 3 quest 2s for the price of 1 index

[stable niche]

if you want bad tracking and video compression artifacts be my guest

[dark jay]

well the quest doesn't that have bad tracking

I mean compared to index level quality tracking it's kind of bad yeah

but it's not bad bad

it's still very playable tracking

but you're not wrong about the video compression

at the same time you've gotta think about the people who don't care about video compression it's not like all quest and index users make videos or record their gameplay

video compression doesn't matter to most

instead of shitting on the "worst" features like video compression and tracking especially it's better just to say "if you want games close to the lowest quality or less triple A games" whatever triple A games are in the vr side of things

[stable niche]

when you use link the video gets compressed so it can go through a normal usb 3.0 port which reduces visual quality

[dark jay]

oh

yeah

but you can change that

[stable niche]

the tracking in my experiences wasn't the greatest, it is playable and usable for most games but, there are some games like beatsaber where it matters most and it isn't great

[dark jay]

meta just doesn't want to show the oculus debug tool for some reason

[bitter surge]

True

[stable niche]

well. yeah, higher bandwith usb and adjustmemts in the debug tool can probably make it indistinguishable from native pcvr

[dark jay]

exactly but ofc lil zucky(zuckerberg) doesn't learn or care much about pcvr

[stable niche]

sadly

[dark jay]

yeah

I mean they did remove all pcvr headsets like all the rifts

and now they're focusing on standalone headsets

and ar and stuff

[bitter surge]

They moved on from AR

They said its not gonna go anywhere

[dark jay]

good

I would rather play games then look at my shitty life with extra stats

[bitter surge]

Id rather play as a walking go pro that goes to hell because it feeds on blood

[dark jay]

?

[zealous swan]

quest 2 is honestly sold as a standalone vr

pcvr is just an addon

cant expect much from it

not built for it anyway

[dark jay]

yes

no

[zealous swan]

standalone headsets are the future of vr industry

[dark jay]

wait

[zealous swan]

i hate to say it

[dark jay]

idk

[zealous swan]

but they definitely are

pcvr is too expensive for most people

[dark jay]

yeah valve is making standalone headset that runs pcvr games 😱

[zealous swan]

you need a good pc AND a good headset for acceptable performance

one day pcvr will no longer be relevant

[dark jay]

that's what the google cardboard is for right?

being a good headset

[bitter surge]

Lmao, its a reference

[bitter surge]

Also im guessing you dont have a pc

Or a pcvr

[zealous swan]

i do have access to relatively decent quality pcvr

[bitter surge]

Ok

[zealous swan]

why’d you ask that

[bitter surge]

Because you sounded like one of those people who doesnt have a pc or pcvr

[zealous swan]

elaborate

[bitter surge]

i guess

if the quest 2 can handle bonelab without much lag

then it can handle crescendo

[fathom dirge]

yes, but Rec Room is unoptimized

[bitter surge]

it is barely optimized

[fathom dirge]

exactly

[bitter surge]

because they rarely fix their fucking game💀

[bitter surge]

Have you seen bonelab on pc 💀💀

[bitter surge]

PC can barely handle crescendo

How can quest can

It depends on the quality

But if rec room actually fixes their fucking game

Then it will be better

But even then a high quality pc shouldnt be chugging along with high graphics on

[bitter surge]

my radeon 580 can even run cresendo on high graphics its not even high quality

[torpid umbra]

I need an explanation still.
Why? Why is Crescendo not able to work on the Quest 2? We have every single other quest…and the one quest we don’t have on the quest 2 is crescendo? Why?

[rain flint]

2 Things. 1. The Graphics are too high for it, 2. The Developers think it’s a bad idea.

[meager tartan]

wait a few months

[rain flint]

It’ll never go on Quest 2.

[bitter surge]

Because they stated not devoting any more manhours to old RRO’s and instead work on stuff that is supported on every platform. Anyone still screaming Quest can’t handle Crescendo should be asking themselves if they have any idea what they’re talking about.

[bitter surge]

Also Crescendo chugs on a lot of pcs

Rec Room can barely run on anything

[meager tartan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067016890939097118/1096060833219493898/image.png

[dark jay]

Yes because of how unoptimized the game is

[bitter surge]

Exactly

[vital sapphire]

It can handle it

[bitter surge]

Barely

[vital sapphire]

Typo I said it can’t with a T my bad

[bitter surge]

Who’s barry?

[bitter surge]

He’s Barry

[vale shore]

Now, if you ask the coach AI about crescendo on quest two, she says it’s more likely to come on quest to the lock. It will come in a future update because apparently developers have been trying their hardest to bring it to quest two and they might get it running

[bitter anvil]

Limited hardware specifications

Limited Random access memory, Graphics processing unit speed, central processing unit, internet storage space, potential injuries because of the whip, Rec Room's E-CPU speed, and Network heat

[finite badge]

Bro why you Lyin to him 💀

It’s called optimization

[bitter surge]

And why is there no optimization?

[finite badge]

Cuz it can’t run?

It was explained to you several times

[bitter surge]

Then add optimization.

[finite badge]

You can’t

Because the quest 2 can’t handle it

[bitter surge]

Quest 2 can handle optimization though.

[finite badge]

They have to get rid of things for it to work

[finite badge]

Ok

Then recreate it with RRS

all rooms with RRS lag

On quest 2

[bitter surge]

I don't have RRS.

[finite badge]

Stand-alone

[bitter surge]

Because Rec Room doesn't have optimization.

[finite badge]

No RecRoom

The quest 2

The quest 2 has a graphics card too

It’s meant to handle some things

But RecRoom optimization is too much

[bitter surge]

The only reason it runs on Quest 2 is because how much worst everything is.

[bitter surge]

It's too little, there is little to none.

[finite badge]

🤦‍♂️

Bro even know what you’re talking about

💀

[bitter surge]

Yes.

[finite badge]

You don’t

[bitter surge]

Here's the funny thing, I do.

[finite badge]

A funny thing I’m not laughing at

😐

Anybody in the game will tell you it’s because of optimization issues

[bitter surge]

Optimization shouldn't be too much for stuff to not handle, if the optimization causes lag, then that optimization is poorly done.

[finite badge]

It is poorly done

That’s what we’re all sayin

That’s why it can’t run

Terrible

😢

[bitter surge]

Have you played PCVR, or screenmode?

Before you ask what the point of that is Il get to that.

[finite badge]

I played both, I used my friends PC when he got it (He called me over to link it for him), I play on Screen mode all the time

[bitter surge]

Go into paintball with an alt, or public game, grab the flag, what the flag does would likely be too much for quest 2 even with optimization, but the stuff like the holes on red team in spillway are possible on Quest 2. The clothing on Quest 2 has no cloth textures, but it would be able to run them if Rec Room had better optimization. All the textures would be able to be similar to PCVR and screenmode, but wouldn't be 100% the same, Quest 2 would likely still need new graphics, but the low setting for graphics would be similar.

[finite badge]

Wtf?

The flag doesn’t even move on quest 2 and clothes do have textures

[bitter surge]

I know.

That's what I said.

[finite badge]

So ion know what you’re talking about

[bitter surge]

If the optimization was good that would be possible, the flag would be able to move, probably not as much, but still would have the ability to move.

[finite badge]

Also you know RecRoom was created on unity right

[bitter surge]

Yes.

[finite badge]

And other games were made on OTHER Softwares?

[bitter surge]

Yes.

[finite badge]

Okay good

Now create it

[bitter surge]

Create what?

[finite badge]

Redo RecRoom

[bitter surge]

I still need to learn unity, I recently swapped from Unreal engine.

[finite badge]

It’s the same thing

Code is the same on both softwares

[bitter surge]

No, different coding language, very different layout.

[finite badge]

Nothing changes

[bitter surge]

C++, and C# are different.

[finite badge]

Language is the same the coding isn’t

Oops

I meant the layout isn’t

[bitter surge]

Layout isn't the same.

[finite badge]

That’s what I just said

[bitter surge]

Oops.

Coding language isn't the same though.

[finite badge]

It is

[bitter surge]

Unreal engine uses C++, Unity uses C#.

I also need to learn the layout.

[finite badge]

https://youtube.com/shorts/uE2i16IQlTI?feature=share

I think this is a very accurate video 😎

[bitter surge]

Took too long to crash.

Had more than twenty FPS.

Expecting twenty would be generous.

[finite badge]

This is a joke if it was available It’d be much worse

[bitter surge]

Yep.

The pitchfork they flung would've stayed they, or not go far due to poor hand collision on Quest 2.

[bitter surge]

I misread what you said, I thought you said it was inaccurate.

Would've agreed if I read it correctly.

[meager tartan]

the flag is able to move the exact same way as pcvr on quest 2 with no changes in performance

rec rooms just too lazy to enable the flag physics on the quest 2 for whatever reason

[finite badge]

Y’all know nothing 🤦‍♂️

[meager tartan]

ok

explain why then

[finite badge]

To allow the game to run with better performance for all platforms so it won’t lag, they don’t want the game to lag

And also you can’t say RecRoom devs are lazy that’s 1 disrespectful and 2 it’s not true

They have lives of their own

Jobs

And better priorities

[meager tartan]

so the flag can't move on the quest 2 or it'll lag

[finite badge]

I’m saying they also did it to other things because then it’ll be a vulnerability

Like the textures or the shaders

[meager tartan]

crescendo can run on the quest 2

they just don't have the time to work on optimizing it

[bitter surge]

Think of it as how Quest 2 cant see posters or candles on the rec center, they just can't optimize it fully

[finite badge]

It can’t

Gribbly even said it in QnA and a AMA

[meager tartan]

when

show me

[finite badge]

Don’t remember which one but he said it

I was watching the premier

[meager tartan]

i'm pretty sure he didn't just say no

[finite badge]

He did

I do remember he said something about soccer

Along with it

[meager tartan]

how long ago was this

[finite badge]

Because somebody asked and he responded

[finite badge]

Like a year or 6 months ago

[bitter surge]

He did

[finite badge]

With Q1 and Q2 something about optimizing Soccer on Q1

That’s what he related it too

I’m not sure which ama it was

[bitter surge]

Lets just get this cleared

[meager tartan]

he probably just got tired about people asking for it

[bitter surge]

If Rec Room can barely run on pc

Crescendo aint working for q2

[meager tartan]

your pc sucks

[bitter surge]

High end pc

[meager tartan]

rec room doesn't like your pc

[bitter surge]

Rec Room doesnt like anything

[finite badge]

He’s mad he doesn’t know what he’s talking about

Annoyed 😒

#annoyed

[bitter surge]

Lmao he doesn’t

[finite badge]

🙂

[meager tartan]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067016890939097118/1096060833219493898/image.png

[finite badge]

That’s not possible

[bitter surge]

What effort

[finite badge]

Gribbly also said that in a AMA the one I’m watching

[bitter surge]

He also said us not them

[finite badge]

Can’t recreate quest with RRS

You can’t even do the old RecCenters

[bitter surge]

We can port crescendo, not them

So that means no s+ items

None of yall have the knowledge of how hard it is too port stuff in game development

[bitter surge]

Their job is to work on Rec Room.

[finite badge]

It is but it isn’t

SOME of them have REAL jobs

And priorities

[bitter surge]

Game development is a real job.

They even have an office.

[finite badge]

Being a adult is hard work, unlike you still being 13 years old you don’t even know what that looks like

[finite badge]

They do 🤯

I knew that

[bitter surge]

What do they do at that office

[finite badge]

No idea

[meager tartan]

he did say "we" in the first message

[finite badge]

I do know they record there

[bitter surge]

If game development wasn't a real job then there wouldn't be college majors for it

[finite badge]

EmilyWaffles and Soul were in the office recording in the same room

[bitter surge]

True

And then just do whatever

[finite badge]

I’m not saying it’s not a real job

Some of y’all need to get a grip

[meager tartan]

i think it's like after studio is done they'll try and look into porting it again

[bitter surge]

[finite badge]

Untrue

[bitter surge]

Probably not

[finite badge]

They won’t

[finite badge]

That not what I was implying

[meager tartan]

they said maybe so i guess you're right

[bitter surge]

Knowing then, they just probably said that too make us have less complaints

[finite badge]

Indeed I agree

[bitter surge]

Most likely.

[finite badge]

Y’all should totally go on my “Opinions on this Ui” Thread

[finite badge]

Cuz the children are annoying

[bitter surge]

Yes

Yes.

Porting stuff to q2 is like porting a high end pc game too a Samsung phone

This is literally true btw

Won't work very well.

[meager tartan]

it's probably like one of the things they could do after they're done working with studio

[bitter surge]

Probably would crash in a few minutes.

at most.

Welp im running on one hour of sleep and have a twelve hour roadtrip

Im gonna take a nap

Nice talk, and bye

The children who complain the most about Crescendo on quest 2 would also probably complain about the whip requiring energy.

While everything else takes a lot less energy.

[meager tartan]

they did get past burning burg apparently

[bitter surge]

Lmao true

Rec Room also already drains battery on Quest 2, Crescendo would likely drain even more battery. So there is a chance you couldn't comeplete a run if you have the average time of fifty-five minutes, or you won't be able to do two unless you are plugged in.

[meager tartan]

rec room drains my battery at the same rate that any other game does for me

even on isle

maybe rec royale but i never play that since it's literally a unplayable 5 fps mess

[bitter surge]

For me it seems games like Bonelab tke less battery.

[bitter surge]

Runs smooth for me.

[meager tartan]

not for me

[bitter surge]

Even if Crescendo didn't drain battery it could theoretically cause the headset to heat up and have to shutdown before overheating too much. I doubt that would happen, but theoretically that could happen.

[meager tartan]

whatever

makes burning burg more immersive

[bitter surge]

Well, if this were the case it would probably start getting bad around the second miniboss. But the probabilty of it heating up enough to shut down is low.

Crescendo also looks amazing with the lighting, amazing atmosphere, but with how lighting is for Quest 2 Rec Room the atmospere won't be as good, which isn't too important, but still can be important in Crescendo.

[meager tartan]

#338126435967434752 message

[bitter surge]

Theoretically Crescendo isn’t more taxing than let’s say Isle. And that seems to be running in a way

[meager tartan]

isle runs fine for me

[hushed narwhal]

probably cause of how long it is and how many bosses there are.

[hasty raven]

do y’all have an official answer or r yall still deciding bc I’m genuinely curious

[finite badge]

There is no answer

[meager tartan]

pretty much

[bitter surge]

Isles is shorter, with less enemies at one time, and the graveyard level in Crescendo is also very laggy, which is another main reason.

Levems are also much longer.

So more has to be loaded in at once.

[meager tartan]

more acts doesn't make a quest laggier

and the acts aren't really that much longer tbh

[bitter anvil]

The size of the levels is too much for the quest 2 memory to hold. The crescendo levels have move effects and more enemies than ISLE

[spring forum]

Y’all don’t have crescendo?

[bitter anvil]

Y'all dont have creatable rooms without SDK or wolf.io?
💀

[bitter surge]

what

[meager tartan]

not true but okay

[bitter surge]

No they’re not. Have you seen the jungle level?

[finite badge]

Acts don’t make the game laggy

[bitter surge]

What?

[finite badge]

Levels

You’re talking about acts right?

Every stage, act, level

It’s the same thing

[bitter surge]

Yes they do, the longer they are the more polygons are beeded to be loaded.

[bitter surge]

Yes, but in Crescendo many acts have three parts, it more props, then with the fog on the graveyard level that is already laggy it won't run too good on Quest 2.

[meager tartan]

what do you mean by parts?

[bitter surge]

Areas after gates.

[meager tartan]

same thing with isle?

[bitter surge]

Isles usually has one or two, Crescendo usually has two or three.

[meager tartan]

so what's the main problem about the gates

[bitter surge]

Let me make a quick picture.

I need to sign into Discord on what I drew it in.

[bitter surge]

Sorry it's a mess, but for simplicity reasons lets pretend every box is the same size, the brown is a gate. All of one level is loaded at the same time, every box is a different part, if the boxes were empty, but they'll have props so more polygons, and then enemies so even more polygons, sure the first levels might run decent, but the garden of sorrow usually lags and probably won't run well.

[meager tartan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1067016890939097118/1096821708872241265/image.png but it's more kinda like this

[spring forum]

Bro I’m on Nintendo 64, smh

[bitter surge]

Crescendo areas are pretty small actually

Skulls areas like the jungle and the village are pretty big open areas. I really don’t see how Crescendo is more complex graphically. Everyone says it is, but it’s really not.

[meager tartan]

garden of sorrow is honestly the main issue

[bitter surge]

How is garden of sorrow an issue but the cave in isle isn’t?

I have never had frame drops in the cave, garden of sorrow is often laggy.

[meager tartan]

the cave in isle mostly is split into smaller rooms and doesn't have that much detail as garden of sorrow

[bitter surge]

I think the issue in the garden is the trees not the fog tbh

Can't get rid of the trees it'd be unfair to PCVR.

How is that relevant to the discussion?

[meager tartan]

i think he's talking about the trees behind the fences and such

[storm vigil]

i cant comprehend what anybody said this entire conversation

[meager tartan]

ok

[meager tartan]

bump

[hasty raven]

bro js get a link cable

[fathom dirge]

you would also need a PC

which is hekkin' expensive

[hasty raven]

I found my pc in the dump

go dumpster diving‼️

and I wouldn’t get my hopes up they said it would come out two yrs ago but it never did

[fathom dirge]

I have no hopes of them releasing it for Quest 2, but my hopes of finding an adequate PC in the trash is lower

and also illegal

[hasty raven]

oh.

welp

ig if u don’t have a pc then it sucks to suck🤷🏻‍♀️

[bitter surge]

Why is this even still a discussion it's not happening

[bitter surge]

Thats what im thinking

[meager tartan]

wow the shadows are so quest 2 like 👍

[bitter surge]

Do I need to show the PCVR menu?

[meager tartan]

what's that at 1:05

[bitter surge]

Oops, thought I cut that out, hold on please.

Crescendo is on Quest 2 now. I hade to lower the quality, and frame rate of the video so I could still upload it, as Discord doesn't like modern files. I did the entire process to help prove it. (PCVR) doesn't have the same menu, obviously)

[bitter surge]

I fixed it, please pretend that didn't happen, I completely forgot that happens on PCVR.

But this isn't PCVR, this is totally Quest 2.

[meager tartan]

quest 2 would run better than that

[bitter surge]

Please shut up, I decided to run it on a laptop that isn't PCVR compatible as it was easier, and I had to lower the frame rate.

[dark jay]

yo crescendo on quest 2 standalone looks fire

[meager tartan]

they should remove the graphics so it can run at 999 fps

works all the time

[zealous swan]

9 year old quest 2 player try not to mald about no crescendo (99% fail)

[vale shore]

Is the vid real

[fathom dirge]

it's real, but on PCVR

[vale shore]

Oh

He doesn’t have Community board tho

[fathom dirge]

just disabled it

[vale shore]

You can do that

[fathom dirge]

maybe

[vale shore]

Well hope some day it comes true

This picture

It says yes

[fathom dirge]

[vale shore]

Is it real

[fathom dirge]

🤷‍♀️

[vale shore]

I had no update

Today

[bitter surge]

You can't disable the community board.

[fathom dirge]

hm, probably editing, because I saw the original video they sent, it was on PCVR

[vale shore]

I ask it again and it said yes

I’m confused

[fathom dirge]

it's an AI

[fathom dirge]

not the real answer

so then how did you do it?

[vale shore]

It said to beat crimson first

[meager tartan]

it's just a maker pen cube placed on it

[snow lantern]

you said "Quest" Try say Quest 2

[meager tartan]

they really added support for juniors but not quest 2

[finite badge]

What do junior have anything to do with crescendo?

[meager tartan]

jun

[junior nimbus]

too much for it to handl;e

[meager tartan]

i don't think juniors can handle it either

[finite badge]

Again

What do juniors have to do with crescendo

[meager tartan]

juniors are able to join crescendo but quest 2 players aren't

[glossy coyote]

Juniors aren't a gaming platform, trust me, we would love to flip a switch and add it, but it isn't that simple unfortunately

[meager tartan]

i need to attach a rtx 4090 to my quest 2

[sullen marlin]

because Crescendo was made before the Meta Quests was ported, and also other RROs work because they’ve already optimized it, they aren’t as big as Crescendo, and they were probably made with Meta Quest noted unlike Crescendo

Actually Crescendo was released BEFORE the Quest 1’s release 💀

[low lagoon]

Alright odd question but what does Recroom run off. And what code do I need to learn?

[obtuse crystal]

are mfs seriously still asking this ☠️

[finite badge]

Ong 💀

They down desperate

[dark jay]

Yesterday i played crescendo for the first time on VR

And now i see why it just wouldn't work on quest 2

[bitter surge]

Rec Room can barely run on q2 anyway

[rugged karma]

Can relate to that

[sullen marlin]

exactly 💀

[hot spear]

666th message

[hot spear]

rr is less optimized than bonelab’s engine

[dark jay]

yeah bonelab took very long due to the game going through very high optimization for it to run at high frames on oculus quest 2 while also making the game look sort of high quality with a limit

in terms of quest 2 yall gotta admit it does look pretty good for mobile hardware

but recroom on the other hand is barely optimized

which is mainly the reason why my quest 2 gpu is on it's knees

in my dorm gpu utilization is 99

AND IT'S JUST SIMPLY A DORMROOM

Strangly enough rro's run much better than a dorm

but at the same time it may make sense since people would most likely spend more time in a rro so rro's are probably more optimized

[bitter surge]

You might have a lot of tubing, as my dorm runs better than RROs.

[torpid umbra]

Does anyone know what type of computer I can run VR on? Like USB-C attached to the computer and VR. Cause my computer isn’t strong enough to do so, so I’m just wondering which one I would need to do that.

[bitter surge]

Wrong channel for that.

[dark jay]

nah

[dark jay]

well what games are you looking to play on pcvr?

[dark jay]

I have nothing in my dorm that's the thing

[torpid umbra]

Like Rec Room, using steam vr or something

[dark jay]

what's your budget?

[bitter surge]

I have a lot in my dorm and it always runs better than RROs.

[dark jay]

strange

i guess it's probably cause myt quest 2 is a year old so the hardware is just getting older

[torpid umbra]

I’m just wondering on which type it would take to handle VR

[bitter surge]

My Quest 2 is also a year old.

With daily useage.

[dark jay]

well what components do you have on your computer rn?

[dark jay]

I guess mines just has a defect or something idk

well I forgot to add it doesn't run low frames all I'm saying is that my gpu is on it's knees

i think yours is too

[torpid umbra]

Yeah

[dark jay]

but you probably don't know that since I've got a metrics tool

[bitter surge]

Did you overclock your headset?

[dark jay]

that's not possible on a quest 2

[bitter surge]

Yes it is.

[dark jay]

have you done it?

[bitter surge]

No, but it is possible and is easy.

[dark jay]

oh wait are you talking about connecting to sidequest and putting gpu and cpu level to max?

[bitter surge]

Yes.

[dark jay]

i've done that but my game would crash more often so I don't do it anymore

[bitter surge]

Did you put it back to defualt?

[dark jay]

it's probably cause I'm not using sidequest but something that I would say is probably better

[dark jay]

ofc and I don't have a problem with default

[bitter surge]

Then try setting it to Q1 settings.

Not the GPU though.

[dark jay]

I'm just saying that my gpu is on it's knees I didn't say that performance is that bad

also emerald wanna correct you on overclocking

it isn't possible trust

it may seem like it due to being able to change the levels but just to let you know developers could choose the level that would be used for the game by default

there is a dynamic level option that most devs use cause it changes the levels based on what's happening in front of you and how much power it needs for that

[sullen marlin]

it runs on android

[sullen marlin]

Echo VR drains the Quest 2’s Battery a bunch, and that game practically removed every neat detail for performance.
The Quest 2 would probably fucking die if it ran Crescendo.

[hot spear]

vr is way more demanding than screen mode

[sullen marlin]

the quest runs on android

[bitter surge]

Well why cant rec room run on my xbox

And why can it barely run on my pc

[bitter surge]

Bad PC.

[meager tartan]

solution

i haven't had any problems with echo vr draining battery a bunch

[sullen marlin]

at the same time, you’d probably barely notice, especially if you’re in a game

[bitter surge]

No

[bitter surge]

Runs perfectly for me.

[hot spear]

do you have an Xbox 360 or something😭i play it on my series s all the time, it’s also on Xbox one lol

[hot spear]

probably a potato pc plus the pc version is way less watered down than mobile versions

[dark jay]

yeah in pc you could get the best quality for recroom

[bitter surge]

Not potato pc

If i could run games on the highest settings its not potato

[dark jay]

then you should be able to play recroom unless you're talking about highest settings for a game that isn't demanding

[hot spear]

what gpu and cpu

[bitter surge]

an i7 and 3060

[dark jay]

is a 3060 good for vr?

I wanna get my own pc but I'm not sure what components would give me a smooth experience

in vr specifically

but I'm not looking to play a highly demanding vr game

I have bonelab, into the radius, onward, recroom, and vrchat so would a 3060 be good enough for those games?

[hot spear]

what resolution are you running at?

[bitter surge]

Does anyone know what a Graphical limit is?

You cant optimise everything

if you did cresendo

your quest processors would be garbage

[meager tartan]

mfw i try to play crescendo on quest 2 and suddenly my quest 2 turns off (the processors have magically turned into garbage)

[stable niche]

yes

[dark jay]

ok good

thank you wyvern

[stable niche]

no problem

people get by with 1060's and 1650ti's you will be just fine

[dark jay]

ok thanks but I think I'd just get the 3060 just to future proof a couple of games i gues

and hey there's nothing bad with getting much better performance so yeah

[meager tartan]

rec room on unity 2021

[verbal elk]

mfw i play crescendo on a standalone quest and my headset catches on fire (it spreads to the rest of my house)

[meager tartan]

mfw when that none of that happens

[bitter surge]

Most reasons why Quest 2 doesn’t have crescendo is because of hardware limitations. There’s no way you can get it to run on a standalone quest.

[meager tartan]

the what what what

[dark jay]

Especially with how unoptimized the game is

[bitter surge]

yeah

[dark jay]

It doesn't even run well on PCvr

[bitter surge]

A game that’ll usually do well on quest gets very low fps

[dark jay]

Yeah even on PCvr i don't get close to 90fps

And i play on a pretty decent PC

[bitter surge]

You also probably would see nothing

[bitter surge]

true

[torpid umbra]

Okay but can someone tell me what VR’s include crescendo?
Like the quest 1 or something?

[umbral terrace]

All except quest 1 & 2

[torpid umbra]

Okay thanks 👍

[dark jay]

any headset that could hook up to a pc

quest 1 and quest and quest pro or well basically any standalone headset doesn't have crescendo

but soon that will change and I'm not saying for quest headsets but other companies that are making standalone headsets that could run pcvr

valve is making one apparently which is a crazy idea but it could work cause valve knows what they're doing

[bitter surge]

Even pico 4?

[umbral terrace]

i honestly dont know. but im guessing it also doesnt have crescendo since its very similar to quest 2

[bitter surge]

true

[bitter surge]

The pico doesnt have crescendo

ok

[stable niche]

I love when people ask "when is crescendo coming to VR?" since they dont realize it's just the standalone ones that cannot so, when I say it can they get so lost

[bitter surge]

Lmao

Its never coming

[dark jay]

well if you think about it not yet

like i said valve is making a standalone headset that could run pcvr games

and more more in the future there will be lots more standalone headsets that could run pcvr games

[bitter surge]

Soon my 1,200 dollar Pc will be worthless

When I get it in June

And when the vr headset releases

[dark jay]

oo what are the specs for it?

[bitter surge]

bio

[gritty axle]

haha L quest (joke)

[bitter surge]

I meant quest 2

I mean Crescendo isnt that good, its way to overhyped

And people only play for the S+

[dark jay]

Ye

[verbal elk]

meanwhile my pc only running 30 fps when i play roblox

[dark jay]

what components does your pc have

[bitter surge]

that’s when you know you have issues when your Pc fails to run one of the easiest 3D games

[dark jay]

well sometimes it's not easy

some games in roblox have insane graphics

[bitter surge]

But still

My tablet couldn’t even run Roblox at like 60+

Besides the baseplate

now it’s good for me

[dark jay]

that's good but keep in mind that tablets are more limited than a pc which is much much more powerful than mobile hardware

[bitter surge]

@bitter surge Says "Not every PC".

[dark jay]

yeah ik

every pc is different

especially when there is a largee amount of components to choose from

[bitter surge]

I am going with the best AMD RX 6000 series GPU

so I’ll have crescendo and everything

[zealous swan]

roblox is more demanding than you thought

it’d be ignorant to call it an easy 3d game

roblox games are hardly optimised to their very last bit, unlike most modern games

and that’s because all roblox games are created by users
users don’t have the time to spend hours just so 100 users can get 2 more fps

that aside, roblox is more cpu demanding than gpu, so an easy 3d term probably isn’t the best way to call it

[zealous swan]

where’d you get that source anyways

pcvr is pcvr for a reason and i don’t think we’re getting it in a short time with no huge technological breakthrough

[bitter surge]

Believe what you want to believe

[zealous swan]

it’s not believe what you want to believe but believing what’s the truth

[dark jay]

youtubers that do vr news

[bitter surge]

Valve has patents of the headset

And if you have ever heard of SadleyitsBradley, he has some good info on headsets

Also Valve did say that they have big plans for VR soon, this was recently, so they may be hinting at a new headset

[dark jay]

no they are making a new vr headset which may be more affordable

[bitter surge]

Thats exactly what i said

And the patents hint at a standalone headsets

But Valve is planning stuff for VR

We know about the headset, but what about the games

[dark jay]

pcvr games?

[bitter surge]

Any Valve game at this point, but yes vr related

We gonna get Half Life Alyx 2 and then wait eternity for 3

[zealous swan]

doesn’t mean the headset can run pcvr

sure it may be better than a quest 2

but valve isn’t full of einsteins
they can’t compress a pcvr capable computer inside a standalone headset

while making it not too heavy

[bitter surge]

They did it to the Steam Deck

[zealous swan]

steam deck isn’t pcvr capable

not even close

[bitter surge]

They have the technology to compress a pc

[zealous swan]

it runs vr at like 30 fps if you somehow manage to make it work

[bitter surge]

And people have already made a standalone index headset

[zealous swan]

send link

[bitter surge]

For what

Which one

[zealous swan]

standalone index

[bitter surge]

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/nofio/nofio-wireless-adapter-for-valve-index

It surprisingly works

As TrhillSeeker got to try it, and play the Index wothout his pc

[zealous swan]

please

refrain

from talking here

ever again

[bitter surge]

What?

[zealous swan]

wireless adapter doesnt make a device operate on its own

it just makes the connection method different

this is literally the difference between airlink and cable link

for short youre still linked to a computer

it does not run on its own

do you have anything else to say

[bitter surge]

Im stupid

But can i say this

[zealous swan]

now i feel bad after you said that

keep going

[bitter surge]

The Index isnt worth it anymore

Valve needs to make a new headset

[zealous swan]

not news

index fell off in this generation of headsets

index has its place as the first generation of headsets, but its the era of standalones now

valve might make a more modern headset, possibly standalone

but they most likely wont have the technological breakthrough required to fit a pc inside a small headset

[bitter surge]

What did Valve mean when they said “we have big things planned for VR”

[zealous swan]

possibly another headset, as i mentioned, modern ones

[bitter surge]

I mean we know about the headset already

[zealous swan]

but its almost certain it wont be as revolutional as quest 2

[bitter surge]

But barely anything about it, and only through the patents

[zealous swan]

or just that theyre developing portal vr

[bitter surge]

The headset is coming out

But thats it, what other big things are they doing

Another game, after like a bajillion years

[zealous swan]

valve is good at keeping secrets

guessing wont help

perhaps time is the only answer

[bitter surge]

If we get a game, imma be relieved

At least valve is still making games

And not just working on CS2s fog for the past 5 years

[zealous swan]

LMFAO

[dark jay]

still a plenty amount of index users

[zealous swan]

what does that prove

[bitter surge]

Index users are switching to other headsets

Like the xr elite or something else

[dark jay]

I don't think anyone would really want to use 1k more on another headset

[dark jay]

just saying there are

not trying to prove anything

[bitter surge]

Well if their headset keeps breaking maybe yea

[dark jay]

it's just gotta be taken care

[bitter surge]

No like the index keeps shutting off on people

Crashing

Etc.

[dark jay]

true but not as much

right?

[bitter surge]

A lot of people are having this issue

[dark jay]

yeah ik

but not so often right

[bitter surge]

…

[dark jay]

I'm friends with some index users

and sure they do crash

but not so often

like once a week

[bitter surge]

Yeah me too, and they said it sucks

So i told them about the xr and one of them says its really good for a headset

[dark jay]

well at the end everyone has different opinions right?

some people end up buying something just to regret it

it happens

[bitter surge]

Well they didnt regret it, it just doesnt work anymore

[dark jay]

oof sucks

how long did it last?

[verbal elk]

i bought the oculus quest pro

[dark jay]

how is it going with that?

[verbal elk]

well its very similar to the quest 2, i barely even know how to charge the damn controllers and headsets, it was expensive as fuck, but at least its not heavy in the front unlike the quest 2 i guess

[jolly pelican]

why are people still talking about this

[bitter surge]

Around 1-2 years

[dark jay]

doesn't it come with a charging dock for the headset and controllers?

[verbal elk]

yes but like theres little holes you have to put it into and it needs to click for it to work and it takes so many tries to do so

[dark jay]

also you do know that you could put in batteries for the controllers

and the headset you could charge with usb c

[dark jay]

well I've seen youtubers saying they have problems with the charging dock

but eventually you'll know the right spot to put it on perfectly

[dark jay]

ooh wow I'd say it lasted pretty long

too bad it didn't have warranty

[mild sail]

Did you download sidequest from the pirate bay

[fathom dirge]

I don't know anymore

[verbal elk]

well its not really a bad headset, its just not worth the price

[zealous swan]

quest pro was never designed to be a consumer level headset

[bitter surge]

We know

That’s why it’s over 1k

Or atleast

Around twice price of quest 2

[bitter surge]

It’s almost like the expensive price didn’t tell us enough

[fleet ivy]

We already wished for crescendo on the quest 1 but I think both headsets will probably explode

Even though I thought the quest 2 has pretty stable performance

[mild sail]

Maybe quest 3, probably not on quest 2, and definitely not on quest 1.

[frail sable]

yes

[bitter surge]

Probably not on quest 3

[bitter surge]

you think that

it’s fucking terrible

just like quest one

[turbid hemlock]

w h a t

My longest was 35

[bitter surge]

What?

[turbid hemlock]

I just didn’t know that was the average time

[bitter surge]

It likely also includes new players.

[turbid hemlock]

Where’d you find that info?

[modest marsh]

quest 1 at least had good battery life and cooling system

[turbid hemlock]

Imagine downgrading your product smh

[bitter surge]

couldn’t be me

[stable niche]

down graded but also upgraded

[bitter surge]

And breaking it in the process while also trying to fix it

[mild sail]

Imagine making shitty software updates for your product that change the menu system entirely and bring way more bugs than bug fixes

[dark jay]

almost every game minus the menu changes?

[bitter surge]

Unless your Ultrakill

[bitter surge]

Hmmmmmmm…

[bitter surge]

THE PC GAMES

JUST DESKTOP GAMES

???

[ruby mango]

Its because the quest 2 just cant handle it with the current software. Maybe if they updated the software.

[outer hazel]

Maybe if the game was optimized at all

[whole spade]

Because the devs are nerds

[outer hazel]

True!

[glass swallow]

Cause the quest might explode if it try’s to run it

[outer hazel]

The quest 2 is already nearing combustion with anything on rr because of their garbage rendering system

[dark jay]

Yes rr does gets the tiny fan going

seriously though have yall seen the fan that is apparently cooling the quest 2

[brazen blaze]

the quest 1 has it so i mean-

[outer hazel]

Le tiny fan

[dark jay]

yes

[bitter surge]

Also the q2 acting as a server for everyone, and being put under the pressure of making everyones game work

[dark jay]

Yes

[fleet ivy]

is crescendo on the pico 4 though?

[dark jay]

no

[modest marsh]

honestly i hope you don't need to upgrade to quest 3 as soon as it comes out otherwise i'd be upset, my headset battery is so degraded so i'm wanting to upgrade instead of just getting it fixed or replaced, also my controllers used to have drift (especially my right one, my left one only tried stopping me from going forwards it didn't try making me go backwards) but ever since my headset battery degraded to the point where 50 minutes is the most amount of time i can play the drift just disappeared from my controllers, so yeah upgrading would be good, especially when i actually can upgrade, i just hope it has better battery life and graphics and stuff than the quest 2, the quest 1 had a really good battery if you care about playing on it, i once played on my quest 1 for 5 hours (i think 7 but it's either 5 hours or 7 hours) without taking a break, other than having to plug it back in, and i wonder if there'll be any new buttons on the controller, if they made a drift prevention system in it than people would love it even more

but i doubt they'd do that even tho people would be more willing to buy it if it had that, also imagine if as soon as the quest 3 comes out rec room stops supporting quest 2 like they did with quest 1, as if people had enough time to upgrade, that would suck considering the quest 1 experience on rec room

[hot spear]

im so sorry

[bitter surge]

Its kinda like the question will their be q3 exclusives

Of course their wont in the beginning because the q2 has such a big playerbase so making games exclusive instead of easing in the exclusives will make people mad

[upper lark]

im a quest 2 and i didnt even know cresendo isnt on quest

[outer hazel]

Will crendo be on the quest 3?

[weak harbor]

It is

[vale shore]

?

Ik

[outer hazel]

Its budget vr

So it accomplishes what it aims for

[bitter surge]

No

[outer hazel]

Damn

Typical rr

[bitter surge]

Not really typical if the game can barely run on anything

[outer hazel]

Wouldn’t that make it typical then?

[wraith marten]

You guys wanna know what's funny about crescendo not being on quest?

Most of the assets are still in the quest version of rec room's files, and I'm pretty sure there's literally an optimized model of dracula FOR QUEST

Another thing, my laptop can barely run rec room but it can run crescendo at the regular (for my laptop) ~15 fps- the thing is, I have confirmed that my laptop is FAR LESS powerful than my quest 2

Fr

I have a feeling that it's more so "we don't feel like doing that" than it is "we can't do that"

Hold on wait crescendo runs on quest pro?

[wraith marten]

QUEST PRO HAS WORSE HARDWARE THAN QUEST 2

If someone with RR studio bothered to rip the maps and port them, it would probably run fine lmao

[bitter surge]

crescendo isnt on quest 2 bc devs lazy

the reason for all the bugs and stuff in this game is just because devs lazy

[wraith marten]

Rec room community > Rec room devs

[torpid umbra]

Right