The Ink Cap Is Finally Reasonable🫡

[flint stone]

Pretty sure we've tried that

But you can send it and I'll check it out

[fierce hamlet]

RCLman?

[flint stone]

I'm not sure, send it anyway

[fierce hamlet]

https://youtu.be/5oNw8xEOnSo

this guy

this video

[flint stone]

I don't think so

I'll check it out, thanks

[fierce hamlet]

https://youtu.be/3wPlcva17rc

since you said closest player as well

[flint stone]

Yeah, we have the ai

Just keeps chasing one player

[fierce hamlet]

yeah

[flint stone]

Also is there a way to change a rec room ai's speed once it's spawned?

Like a goblin ai, which you can make faster by pressing a button or somethin

[fierce hamlet]

dunno

[limpid sorrel]

So what's the new ink limit now with LV2?

I know they dropped it a bit

[flint stone]

1000

[swift gazelle]

Was 100X, now 10X

[coarse cedar]

Fair enough, hopefully they don't decrease it more

[azure rose]

@flint stone @fierce hamlet
This video is outdated, all you have to do now is get the position of the AI, and use the Get Closest chip on Get All Players

[fierce hamlet]

oh i didn't know it was that old lol

[flint stone]

1000-2000 is good, any less would be unfortunate

[flint stone]

Alright, thanks we'll try it

[azure rose]

Rip

[hazy girder]

Rip

[prime bridge]

They lowered the limits v2 Rip

[stable ice]

i’m surprised no one ever mentioned this but i was looking back at the last ama and they mentioned that more ink is guaranteed and soon.

guess it’s a bit too late to give hope lol

[flint stone]

You could get to around 3000 ink and be fine with saves at every 100 ink reached, also limiting gadgets and circuits help improve performance, so a decent amount would've worked but I'm still happy with 1k

[fresh oar]

Tbf their definition of soon™️ isn't always soon

[stable ice]

a year you mean

[fierce hamlet]

💀

no way it was a year ago

dude no way

its real

[stable ice]

off by three months perhaps

[mighty terrace]

how do I access this and is it experimental? As in may it break my map?

[proud sun]

LimitsV2?

[mighty terrace]

yes

[proud sun]

If you’re referring to LimitsV2, it’s a split test, givin to some creators

They give it out randomly

[mighty terrace]

ok

so I cannot get more ink?

that sucks

[agile token]

So every day it chooses a random user with certain requirements to give LimitsV2?

[azure rose]

I don’t believe it’s possible to get anymore sadly, as you can no longer clone rooms and keep their limits V2

[mighty terrace]

😢

[azure rose]

I doubt every day, but maybe

[mighty terrace]

why can’t they just change the ink cap entirely?

[azure rose]

Well limits V2 was made to see if the game can handle more ink(it can), so hopefully we will get some kind of increase soon

[mighty terrace]

okay

fingers crossed 🤞

[limpid sorrel]

That's sort of a stupid change.

[wind belfry]

thats been confirmed?

[swift gazelle]

It is still cloneable and still holds the v2 limits. The limit is not 10X the normal instead of 100X the normal like it was for the start.

[azure rose]

For me when I clone a room the limits V2 feature goes away

[swift gazelle]

I literally just copied the room and it is still there.

[cyan cargo]

skill issue

[grave bay]

How strange

[patent wing]

I don’t know if anyone’s talked about this yet, but I came across this yesterday and I’m positively giddy! You can clone a limits V2 room well and good, but what I didn’t know is that you can move a subroom into the limits v2 room, and that subroom will retain limits v2!

Layman’s terms, you can add limits V2 to preexisting rooms that don’t

My brain is going stupid with the possibilities

[cyan cargo]

wait

really

if that's true I'm gonna be so fuckin happy

[cyan cargo]

can confirm does work

any room can have limitsv2 put on it

[fierce hamlet]

😈

[patent wing]

What malicious scheme are you concocting?

[fierce hamlet]

👹🙏

my day has arrived

[patent wing]

Uncle Ruckus!? (No relation)

[fierce hamlet]

👴🏿

[prime bridge]

It can only retain the ink before the limits v2 save file because RR can’t just randomly take a bite out of your build in random places to reduce ink meaning it keeps it but it doesn’t keep limits v2.

[prime bridge]

Yeah they made some updates and apparently some people cannot obtain the limits v2 properties of a room

That’s what I heard

[patent wing]

Limits v2 doesn’t reduce the ink cost of objects, it increases the ink total from 100-1000. So a subroom worth 82 ink, is only worth 8.2 ink if moved to a limits V2 enabled room

[prime bridge]

Yeah ik

But if you move it back, you can’t configure anything in that room unless you lower the ink

[patent wing]

Ah I see, I misunderstood your original message

[azure rose]

You should be able to spawn Cv2 even when the ink is at or above 100% imo

Very annoying especially if your room utilizes the game rules spawn weapons

[patent wing]

@swift gazelle hey Dave, I heard a claim that if I publish a room with limits v2 without being in the split test, you get banned. Any validity to this?

[swift gazelle]

From what Star has told me, no one is getting banned for it. It's just not the intended way to get the LimitsV2 and they don't encourage it. However, with over 2600 rooms already published with it, I don't think all those people got it through being given the permissions, but through the clone. What happens to the room is still at your own risk though, as they could change or remove the limitsV2 at any time as they still test and refine it.

[patent wing]

Gotcha, thanks Dave

[cyan cargo]

if they really don't like it I don't see why they don't make it not cloneable

[swift gazelle]

Exactly. If they were going to ban people for it, the cloneable room would have already been gone.

[azure rose]

EVERYONE HAS 25% MORE INK NOW

Atleast I do

Hooray

[stable ice]

yes

[fierce hamlet]

never thought id see this thread open again

[wind belfry]

forgot this thread even existed

[empty ginkgo]

this thread existed?

[cyan cargo]

I'm starting to think this thread is actually immortal

I didn't get more ink, I wish everything didn't have to be a fucking split test

[orchid ginkgo]

ink cap will no longer be reasonable nor existent in the future

shoutout reccon keynote for saying that w/o putting it on a slide

they just said "rooms 2.0 is in alpha, btw no more ink limit" like no creator is freaking tf out for that

[azure rose]

Whaaaat

Was that in the recent qna or smthn?

When the ink limit is removed, I will finally close this thread once and for all

[azure rose]

Ah that sucks, hopefully it’s not a split test and just takes a few days to roll out to everyone

[orchid ginkgo]

https://youtu.be/cLttadZ9AYk?feature=shared&t=834

[azure rose]

YOOO

This meme I made a while back is finally becoming true

[orchid ginkgo]

eta is a year tho

[azure rose]

Oh

Well

A small price to pay

[orchid ginkgo]

prob a year or less tbh, depends on how fast they send it out

says alpha, so imma bet in 9 months or less

[prime bridge]

Pooo

[hazy girder]

Omg this thread is back

[agile token]

Guys another thing about rooms 2.0 there will be straight up NO ink limit

I assume that rrs rooms will still have file size limit tho but it’ll be a lot larger

[tardy stag]

THANK GOD

[azure rose]

THE INK CAP IS GETTING REASONABLE SOON!!!!!!!

Damn you dyno

[fierce hamlet]

the ink cap won't be reasonable

there will be no ink cap therefore it will never be reasonable

how can it be reasonable if it doesn't exist

[azure rose]

Once the ink cap is removed I’ll change the name to “the ink cap is unreasonable now” and convince them to revert back😈

[fierce hamlet]

💀

[azure rose]

256 reactions dont lie

[fierce hamlet]

"We want the ink cap back!"

[azure rose]

The people agree

[fierce hamlet]

We shouldn't be able to have that much freedom!!!:jajahs

when ink cap is removed im making infinite costume park

the omega to all costume maps

it never ends

[azure rose]

Make them regret their decision

I still want things like unsyncing objects tbh

That would help with lag a LOT

Especially if with that comes hiding/unhiding objects

[prime bridge]

No Inklimits without Reasonability!

[stable ice]

late

[hoary egret]

They should just add a performance warning for certain platforms with LimitsV2

Bc like the only limit is just what your system can handle

[azure rose]

True, when ink is gone there should still be some way to see how much “ink” your room takes up, just not as a percentage of course

That way someone could make a chart of the general ink “limits” for each platform

I also imagine they’d change the way the game renders stuff tho, so maybe the lag thresholds will be increased aswell

[hoary egret]

Use an object count instead and selecting a makerpen object will show how many child objects there are

[fierce hamlet]

should just be an integer since that's how ink is calculated in rec

ive said this for a while

each object has a set amount of "ink" it uses so just add it all up to a number

if what was previously 100% is considered the most optimal then convert that to the ink integer version and say "this is what's most optimal but you can go further"

[swift gazelle]

Before this recent update, the instantiation cost of a room was 30,000. All items have a cost. For instance, a canvas costs 1288. You do the math and you see that a canvas costs 4.3% of a rooms ink.

I don't know what the new instantiation cost per room is off hand, but it is like 25% more I think.

Looks like it might be 40,000 if my math is right. A canvas now costs 3.2%.

[grave bay]

Yeah they brought it up to 40k

So 33% more ink

Which will definitely help for the wait until rooms 2.0

[fresh oar]

can't wait for rooms 2.0

Specifically for hierarchical building

[prime bridge]

No more ink

Just no

Remove it

[fierce hamlet]

set ink to 0

no games

[prime bridge]

-1000 ink let’s see who’s going to make Skibidi toilet maps now

[wind belfry]

who deleted a message in here and made this post active again? 😭

[grave bay]

Execute them

[mighty terrace]

Nah

[trail ibex]

Getting rid of limits is wild /:

I’d get it if RoomsV2 still had everything that it needs, but it doesn’t as of now, so why disable cloning right now??

[wind belfry]

i kind of agree

actually ive noticed that cloning still works

https://rec.net/room/CloneableLimitsV2

clone while you can

[thick moss]

We're disabling it because it's been causing performance issues

[slow forge]

So our room with lv2 is getting destroyed?

[thick moss]

No, it'll stay: https://rec.net/creator/p/limits-v2-update

[slow forge]

Ok, would frames be better/ significantly better if i built on rooms 2.0?

[thick moss]

Results may vary today as Rooms 2 is still in alpha, but the answer should be yes